Don't make excuses it's still the same
Emerald is the least
Half of that game it's just ocean that you swimming and you just battle trainers and theirs nothing else happen hahaha it's kinda lame
Pretty much this.
Designs stagnate, quality drops, storylines simplify, characters become 2-dimensional, designs decay and begin to grow more monotone and soulless, the gameplay never truly adapts or grows past the conventional four-moves with six JRPG characters.
No innovation, yet the product still sells which creates little incentive for the company to try anything risky and new. Without new ideas, the IP stagnates. Newer generations can't get into the antiquated JRPG gameplay format unless they enjoy puzzle games. The games are designed for ages 10~13 yet their largest consoomer base is 31~52. This leaves things feeling shallow on both sides.
The IP needs to be refreshed with new gameplay styles yet the company will never do that because consoomers will buy the next product and simply get excited for the product after that no matter what.
>their largest consoomer base is 31~52.
[citation needed]
Pretty much this.
Designs stagnate, quality drops, storylines simplify, characters become 2-dimensional, designs decay and begin to grow more monotone and soulless, the gameplay never truly adapts or grows past the conventional four-moves with six JRPG characters.
No innovation, yet the product still sells which creates little incentive for the company to try anything risky and new. Without new ideas, the IP stagnates. Newer generations can't get into the antiquated JRPG gameplay format unless they enjoy puzzle games. The games are designed for ages 10~13 yet their largest consoomer base is 31~52. This leaves things feeling shallow on both sides.
The IP needs to be refreshed with new gameplay styles yet the company will never do that because consoomers will buy the next product and simply get excited for the product after that no matter what.
Johto filler hell and the general lack of capitalizing on gen 2 after G/S were released. There was a rising fever pitch hyping up the mysterious new "Neo" Pokemon during late Kanto and Orange Islands, and then the momentum just kind of stopped right as it was at its peak. Pokemon like Togetic, Tyranitar and Umbreon were huge among fans, but marketing kept sticking to stuff like Pikachu, Charizard and Togepi that were old hat.
Yes. Gold and Silver were the peak of the franchise, and pretty much every kid had them, with people eagerly discussing them online and making neat fan content like homepages, flash games and videos. Then they all got more and more irked as the anime and merchandise was a barren dripfeed that didn't reflect the cool stuff in the games at all.
They weren’t insulting the Gen 2 Games, they were saying that TPC didn’t take advantage of GSC’s popularity. They dragged their asses even getting to the Johto arc and when they finally got to it, Gen 1 Pokemon still hogged most of the spotlight. Not only that but the Johto arc was overloaded with cutesy shit and filler that bored the frick out of everyone (despite the fact that Johto gym battles and other important battles were actually really good, they were drowned out by the filler. )
Also nearly all the merch focused on Gen1 mons while Gen2 mons barely got anything, (The one exception was the TCG, which actually gave the Gen2 pokemon their fair due with the starter getting some damn good cards) there was also some new cool mechanics like dark and steel energy, but outside of the TCG, the focus was almost entirely in Gen 1 Pokemon.
The worst part Is by the time TPC grew enough brain cells to realize that NEW Pokémon deserve to be marketed, it was time for Gen 3 so Hoeen and every other Generation after got their fair share of attention, and while Johto still gets fricked over and ignored even to this day. And becaue Johto gets so overlooked it’s easy for pieces of shit like
The infamous Johto level curve killed a lot of the fan's desire to play the games.
to try and gaslight new fans into thinking then Gen2 games were bad
It started to take longer and longer to catch pikachu. In RB you could catch one before the first gym (in Y you start with one), in GSC you had to be lucky enough to hatch a pichu from the odd egg, in RSE you had to wait until the safari zone, and so on. Each generation, the player went a longer minimum time without pikachu.
>new games continue to smash sales records while more and more spinoffs come out and stores have an entire half an aisle of the toy section for pokemon shit >"is pokemon dead?????"
maybe it doesn't have the same zeitgeist feel it had in the late 90s to early 00s but it's still wildly and comfortably popular, if anything it had its lull in popularity around gens 4-6 and then picked back up
I'm pretty sure pokemon, as a brand, is stronger than it's been in a long time. Low during gen5, low again in the time from LGPE-BDSP. But it got huge again with the pokemon card hype, leading into Legends Arceus, and then the announcement of Gen9 has been extremely well received and public approval seems pretty high. Of course, anything can happen, tho...
>is the pokemon craze dead
Nope. It's more popular than ever. They just had their most profitable year of all time. Pokemon will literally never die. Not in any of our lifetimes at least.
Time. Didn't have much of an effect, though, because while it may not be a "craze" anymore (depending on who you ask), it's still wildly popular and thriving globally.
If you mean Pokemania yeah, and no the games didn't cause it because the games weren't even the biggest thing about Pokemania in the west. The anime was the biggest part of the franchise at the time and it's fall is what caused the death of Pokemania.
>Is Pokémon dead
Considering it just had the Go craze in 2016 and SwSh were the best selling games since Pokemania, that’d be an effortless no to your bait
It's not really a fad anymore, but the whole point of a fad is that it doesn't last forever. People back then thought Pokémon wouldn't survive past the Gameboy era, and they've been proven wrong. Pokémon is still extremely popular. It was inspired by things like Godzilla, Ultraseven, Dragon Quest, Doraemon, and Hello Kitty. All of those are also consistently popular, or having a resurgence of popularity, in Japan and worldwide. The closest thing zoomers have to Pokémania is the MCU, but that has both the Internet and a ton of Disney money being thrown at it. Game Freak was literally a small indie company in the 1990's. Pokémania was almost entirely word-of-mouth among kids in the pre-Internet era. The only official promotion the games and cards got in the West was the anime. Pretty much everything else with the Pokémon brand on it from that time period was a third-party licensed product. The popularity was entirely organic. There were no such things as astroturfed shills or "influencers" back then. The Western equivalent in popularity from that same time period is Spongebob Squarepants. Spongebob is still really popular globally, but he's not a fad anymore either.
Modern pokemon(as in starting with gen 8) happened to find itself in the hands of the Twitter consumer crowd. This led it to being one of the most criticized, most defended, and almost most selling. GF probably didn't intend it but now they got a group of basically casuals that will defend their actions no matter what.
>The Western equivalent in popularity from that same time period is Spongebob Squarepants.
Really Spongebob is the American equivalent, and Harry Potter is the British equivalent. Both of those were extremely popular among kids at the same time as Pokémon, although Spongebob came a couple of years later. Pokémon debuted in Japan in 1996, Harry Potter debuted in the UK in 1997, and Spongebob debuted in the USA in 1999.
Gen 5
Least sold lol the least sold is
Platinum
Emerald
And Crystal
Hahaha
>Fighting against 3rd Versions
>Besides being a direct sequel
wew
Don't make excuses it's still the same
Emerald is the least
Half of that game it's just ocean that you swimming and you just battle trainers and theirs nothing else happen hahaha it's kinda lame
>Schizoblog
Nope, Direct-Sequels are not fighting against 3rd versions
FIRST BW Game: 2nd worst selling game
SECOND BW game: Worst selling game
UNOVA? More like Black persontrash
BW has more sales than hgss are you moron lol
Bw2 has more sales than platinum and emerald
Accept the fact
>implying sales is a standard of quality
gamefreak would shit down your zoomer throat and youd say it was the best thing since sliced bread
pathetic
BW 15 million
Hgss 12 million
Lol
Bw2 8 million
Pla - 7 million
Emerald - 7 million
Cry motherfricker
Continue
They said hgss is the greatest pokemon game but sell more less than bw lol
Continue
And
Red,green,blue, yellow
>swsh are number 2
>SM are below XY
Legitimately what happened?
fpbp
>their largest consoomer base is 31~52.
[citation needed]
Same thing that kills everything, brainless consoomerism
Pretty much this.
Designs stagnate, quality drops, storylines simplify, characters become 2-dimensional, designs decay and begin to grow more monotone and soulless, the gameplay never truly adapts or grows past the conventional four-moves with six JRPG characters.
No innovation, yet the product still sells which creates little incentive for the company to try anything risky and new. Without new ideas, the IP stagnates. Newer generations can't get into the antiquated JRPG gameplay format unless they enjoy puzzle games. The games are designed for ages 10~13 yet their largest consoomer base is 31~52. This leaves things feeling shallow on both sides.
The IP needs to be refreshed with new gameplay styles yet the company will never do that because consoomers will buy the next product and simply get excited for the product after that no matter what.
>31~52
You're kidding yourself if you think 70s boomers have ever been Pokemon fans. It's more like 25-40.
Zoomers only care about TikTok.
Trying to appeal to toddlers instead of children.
time
the dex cut
Johto filler hell and the general lack of capitalizing on gen 2 after G/S were released. There was a rising fever pitch hyping up the mysterious new "Neo" Pokemon during late Kanto and Orange Islands, and then the momentum just kind of stopped right as it was at its peak. Pokemon like Togetic, Tyranitar and Umbreon were huge among fans, but marketing kept sticking to stuff like Pikachu, Charizard and Togepi that were old hat.
>johto filler killed pokemon
G/S/C was the #2 most sold pokemon game of all time only beaten by Red/Green/Blue/Yellow
Least sold is Black person2 and cracker2 because they are the most soulless digimoneqsue shit games in the series.
>fighting with kids
don't take the bait anon
>G/S/C was the #2 most sold pokemon game of all time only beaten by Red/Green/Blue/Yellow
And? That has nothing at all to do with the fricking filler.
Nice buzzword you got there
"Filler"
"Level Curve"
etc etc
There is no level curve in a fricking TV show, dipshit.
Yes. Gold and Silver were the peak of the franchise, and pretty much every kid had them, with people eagerly discussing them online and making neat fan content like homepages, flash games and videos. Then they all got more and more irked as the anime and merchandise was a barren dripfeed that didn't reflect the cool stuff in the games at all.
They weren’t insulting the Gen 2 Games, they were saying that TPC didn’t take advantage of GSC’s popularity. They dragged their asses even getting to the Johto arc and when they finally got to it, Gen 1 Pokemon still hogged most of the spotlight. Not only that but the Johto arc was overloaded with cutesy shit and filler that bored the frick out of everyone (despite the fact that Johto gym battles and other important battles were actually really good, they were drowned out by the filler. )
Also nearly all the merch focused on Gen1 mons while Gen2 mons barely got anything, (The one exception was the TCG, which actually gave the Gen2 pokemon their fair due with the starter getting some damn good cards) there was also some new cool mechanics like dark and steel energy, but outside of the TCG, the focus was almost entirely in Gen 1 Pokemon.
The worst part Is by the time TPC grew enough brain cells to realize that NEW Pokémon deserve to be marketed, it was time for Gen 3 so Hoeen and every other Generation after got their fair share of attention, and while Johto still gets fricked over and ignored even to this day. And becaue Johto gets so overlooked it’s easy for pieces of shit like
to try and gaslight new fans into thinking then Gen2 games were bad
"Digimon" what the frick is Digimon?lol
It started to take longer and longer to catch pikachu. In RB you could catch one before the first gym (in Y you start with one), in GSC you had to be lucky enough to hatch a pichu from the odd egg, in RSE you had to wait until the safari zone, and so on. Each generation, the player went a longer minimum time without pikachu.
>new games continue to smash sales records while more and more spinoffs come out and stores have an entire half an aisle of the toy section for pokemon shit
>"is pokemon dead?????"
maybe it doesn't have the same zeitgeist feel it had in the late 90s to early 00s but it's still wildly and comfortably popular, if anything it had its lull in popularity around gens 4-6 and then picked back up
Tracy.
I'm pretty sure pokemon, as a brand, is stronger than it's been in a long time. Low during gen5, low again in the time from LGPE-BDSP. But it got huge again with the pokemon card hype, leading into Legends Arceus, and then the announcement of Gen9 has been extremely well received and public approval seems pretty high. Of course, anything can happen, tho...
The infamous Johto level curve killed a lot of the fan's desire to play the games.
Gen 5 killed Pokemon and it never recovered. It was way too ugly
>is the pokemon craze dead
Nope. It's more popular than ever. They just had their most profitable year of all time. Pokemon will literally never die. Not in any of our lifetimes at least.
no soul left after B2W2
And also gen 5 games is the most downloaded Pokemon game ROMs in internet hahaha
Time. Didn't have much of an effect, though, because while it may not be a "craze" anymore (depending on who you ask), it's still wildly popular and thriving globally.
Sword/Shield
>so easy that you will never get bored!
If you mean Pokemania yeah, and no the games didn't cause it because the games weren't even the biggest thing about Pokemania in the west. The anime was the biggest part of the franchise at the time and it's fall is what caused the death of Pokemania.
people simply lost interest and moved on
then go reeled them all back in but that’s another story
I fricking wish it were dead already so the old games went back to their pre-covid and pre-nupokemania prices
>Is Pokémon dead
Considering it just had the Go craze in 2016 and SwSh were the best selling games since Pokemania, that’d be an effortless no to your bait
It's not really a fad anymore, but the whole point of a fad is that it doesn't last forever. People back then thought Pokémon wouldn't survive past the Gameboy era, and they've been proven wrong. Pokémon is still extremely popular. It was inspired by things like Godzilla, Ultraseven, Dragon Quest, Doraemon, and Hello Kitty. All of those are also consistently popular, or having a resurgence of popularity, in Japan and worldwide. The closest thing zoomers have to Pokémania is the MCU, but that has both the Internet and a ton of Disney money being thrown at it. Game Freak was literally a small indie company in the 1990's. Pokémania was almost entirely word-of-mouth among kids in the pre-Internet era. The only official promotion the games and cards got in the West was the anime. Pretty much everything else with the Pokémon brand on it from that time period was a third-party licensed product. The popularity was entirely organic. There were no such things as astroturfed shills or "influencers" back then. The Western equivalent in popularity from that same time period is Spongebob Squarepants. Spongebob is still really popular globally, but he's not a fad anymore either.
Yeah but modern spongebob is pretty much universally despised whereas modern pokemon still has a lot of people defending it
Modern pokemon(as in starting with gen 8) happened to find itself in the hands of the Twitter consumer crowd. This led it to being one of the most criticized, most defended, and almost most selling. GF probably didn't intend it but now they got a group of basically casuals that will defend their actions no matter what.
>The popularity was entirely organic. There were no such things as astroturfed shills or "influencers" back then.
>The Western equivalent in popularity from that same time period is Spongebob Squarepants.
Really Spongebob is the American equivalent, and Harry Potter is the British equivalent. Both of those were extremely popular among kids at the same time as Pokémon, although Spongebob came a couple of years later. Pokémon debuted in Japan in 1996, Harry Potter debuted in the UK in 1997, and Spongebob debuted in the USA in 1999.