Is the Pokmon craze dead

What killed it?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 5

    • 2 years ago
      SeoKouji

      >johto filler killed pokemon
      G/S/C was the #2 most sold pokemon game of all time only beaten by Red/Green/Blue/Yellow

      Least sold is Black person2 and cracker2 because they are the most soulless digimoneqsue shit games in the series.

      Gen 5 killed Pokemon and it never recovered. It was way too ugly

      Least sold lol the least sold is
      Platinum
      Emerald
      And Crystal
      Hahaha

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Fighting against 3rd Versions
        >Besides being a direct sequel
        wew

        • 2 years ago
          SeoKouji

          Don't make excuses it's still the same
          Emerald is the least
          Half of that game it's just ocean that you swimming and you just battle trainers and theirs nothing else happen hahaha it's kinda lame

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Schizoblog
            Nope, Direct-Sequels are not fighting against 3rd versions
            FIRST BW Game: 2nd worst selling game
            SECOND BW game: Worst selling game

            UNOVA? More like Black persontrash

            • 2 years ago
              SeoKouji

              BW has more sales than hgss are you moron lol

              Bw2 has more sales than platinum and emerald

              Accept the fact

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >implying sales is a standard of quality
                gamefreak would shit down your zoomer throat and youd say it was the best thing since sliced bread
                pathetic

            • 2 years ago
              SeoKouji

              BW 15 million
              Hgss 12 million
              Lol
              Bw2 8 million
              Pla - 7 million
              Emerald - 7 million
              Cry motherfricker

              • 2 years ago
                SeoKouji

                Continue
                They said hgss is the greatest pokemon game but sell more less than bw lol

      • 2 years ago
        SeoKouji

        Continue
        And
        Red,green,blue, yellow

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >swsh are number 2
        >SM are below XY
        Legitimately what happened?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      fpbp

      Pretty much this.
      Designs stagnate, quality drops, storylines simplify, characters become 2-dimensional, designs decay and begin to grow more monotone and soulless, the gameplay never truly adapts or grows past the conventional four-moves with six JRPG characters.

      No innovation, yet the product still sells which creates little incentive for the company to try anything risky and new. Without new ideas, the IP stagnates. Newer generations can't get into the antiquated JRPG gameplay format unless they enjoy puzzle games. The games are designed for ages 10~13 yet their largest consoomer base is 31~52. This leaves things feeling shallow on both sides.

      The IP needs to be refreshed with new gameplay styles yet the company will never do that because consoomers will buy the next product and simply get excited for the product after that no matter what.

      >their largest consoomer base is 31~52.
      [citation needed]

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Same thing that kills everything, brainless consoomerism

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much this.
      Designs stagnate, quality drops, storylines simplify, characters become 2-dimensional, designs decay and begin to grow more monotone and soulless, the gameplay never truly adapts or grows past the conventional four-moves with six JRPG characters.

      No innovation, yet the product still sells which creates little incentive for the company to try anything risky and new. Without new ideas, the IP stagnates. Newer generations can't get into the antiquated JRPG gameplay format unless they enjoy puzzle games. The games are designed for ages 10~13 yet their largest consoomer base is 31~52. This leaves things feeling shallow on both sides.

      The IP needs to be refreshed with new gameplay styles yet the company will never do that because consoomers will buy the next product and simply get excited for the product after that no matter what.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >31~52
        You're kidding yourself if you think 70s boomers have ever been Pokemon fans. It's more like 25-40.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Zoomers only care about TikTok.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Trying to appeal to toddlers instead of children.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    time

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the dex cut

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Johto filler hell and the general lack of capitalizing on gen 2 after G/S were released. There was a rising fever pitch hyping up the mysterious new "Neo" Pokemon during late Kanto and Orange Islands, and then the momentum just kind of stopped right as it was at its peak. Pokemon like Togetic, Tyranitar and Umbreon were huge among fans, but marketing kept sticking to stuff like Pikachu, Charizard and Togepi that were old hat.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >johto filler killed pokemon
      G/S/C was the #2 most sold pokemon game of all time only beaten by Red/Green/Blue/Yellow

      Least sold is Black person2 and cracker2 because they are the most soulless digimoneqsue shit games in the series.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >fighting with kids
        don't take the bait anon

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >G/S/C was the #2 most sold pokemon game of all time only beaten by Red/Green/Blue/Yellow
        And? That has nothing at all to do with the fricking filler.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Nice buzzword you got there
          "Filler"
          "Level Curve"
          etc etc

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            There is no level curve in a fricking TV show, dipshit.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. Gold and Silver were the peak of the franchise, and pretty much every kid had them, with people eagerly discussing them online and making neat fan content like homepages, flash games and videos. Then they all got more and more irked as the anime and merchandise was a barren dripfeed that didn't reflect the cool stuff in the games at all.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They weren’t insulting the Gen 2 Games, they were saying that TPC didn’t take advantage of GSC’s popularity. They dragged their asses even getting to the Johto arc and when they finally got to it, Gen 1 Pokemon still hogged most of the spotlight. Not only that but the Johto arc was overloaded with cutesy shit and filler that bored the frick out of everyone (despite the fact that Johto gym battles and other important battles were actually really good, they were drowned out by the filler. )
        Also nearly all the merch focused on Gen1 mons while Gen2 mons barely got anything, (The one exception was the TCG, which actually gave the Gen2 pokemon their fair due with the starter getting some damn good cards) there was also some new cool mechanics like dark and steel energy, but outside of the TCG, the focus was almost entirely in Gen 1 Pokemon.

        The worst part Is by the time TPC grew enough brain cells to realize that NEW Pokémon deserve to be marketed, it was time for Gen 3 so Hoeen and every other Generation after got their fair share of attention, and while Johto still gets fricked over and ignored even to this day. And becaue Johto gets so overlooked it’s easy for pieces of shit like

        The infamous Johto level curve killed a lot of the fan's desire to play the games.

        to try and gaslight new fans into thinking then Gen2 games were bad

      • 2 years ago
        SeoKouji

        "Digimon" what the frick is Digimon?lol

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It started to take longer and longer to catch pikachu. In RB you could catch one before the first gym (in Y you start with one), in GSC you had to be lucky enough to hatch a pichu from the odd egg, in RSE you had to wait until the safari zone, and so on. Each generation, the player went a longer minimum time without pikachu.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >new games continue to smash sales records while more and more spinoffs come out and stores have an entire half an aisle of the toy section for pokemon shit
    >"is pokemon dead?????"
    maybe it doesn't have the same zeitgeist feel it had in the late 90s to early 00s but it's still wildly and comfortably popular, if anything it had its lull in popularity around gens 4-6 and then picked back up

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Tracy.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm pretty sure pokemon, as a brand, is stronger than it's been in a long time. Low during gen5, low again in the time from LGPE-BDSP. But it got huge again with the pokemon card hype, leading into Legends Arceus, and then the announcement of Gen9 has been extremely well received and public approval seems pretty high. Of course, anything can happen, tho...

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The infamous Johto level curve killed a lot of the fan's desire to play the games.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 5 killed Pokemon and it never recovered. It was way too ugly

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >is the pokemon craze dead
    Nope. It's more popular than ever. They just had their most profitable year of all time. Pokemon will literally never die. Not in any of our lifetimes at least.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    no soul left after B2W2

  16. 2 years ago
    SeoKouji

    And also gen 5 games is the most downloaded Pokemon game ROMs in internet hahaha

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Time. Didn't have much of an effect, though, because while it may not be a "craze" anymore (depending on who you ask), it's still wildly popular and thriving globally.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Sword/Shield
    >so easy that you will never get bored!

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If you mean Pokemania yeah, and no the games didn't cause it because the games weren't even the biggest thing about Pokemania in the west. The anime was the biggest part of the franchise at the time and it's fall is what caused the death of Pokemania.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    people simply lost interest and moved on

    then go reeled them all back in but that’s another story

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I fricking wish it were dead already so the old games went back to their pre-covid and pre-nupokemania prices

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Is Pokémon dead
    Considering it just had the Go craze in 2016 and SwSh were the best selling games since Pokemania, that’d be an effortless no to your bait

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's not really a fad anymore, but the whole point of a fad is that it doesn't last forever. People back then thought Pokémon wouldn't survive past the Gameboy era, and they've been proven wrong. Pokémon is still extremely popular. It was inspired by things like Godzilla, Ultraseven, Dragon Quest, Doraemon, and Hello Kitty. All of those are also consistently popular, or having a resurgence of popularity, in Japan and worldwide. The closest thing zoomers have to Pokémania is the MCU, but that has both the Internet and a ton of Disney money being thrown at it. Game Freak was literally a small indie company in the 1990's. Pokémania was almost entirely word-of-mouth among kids in the pre-Internet era. The only official promotion the games and cards got in the West was the anime. Pretty much everything else with the Pokémon brand on it from that time period was a third-party licensed product. The popularity was entirely organic. There were no such things as astroturfed shills or "influencers" back then. The Western equivalent in popularity from that same time period is Spongebob Squarepants. Spongebob is still really popular globally, but he's not a fad anymore either.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah but modern spongebob is pretty much universally despised whereas modern pokemon still has a lot of people defending it

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Modern pokemon(as in starting with gen 8) happened to find itself in the hands of the Twitter consumer crowd. This led it to being one of the most criticized, most defended, and almost most selling. GF probably didn't intend it but now they got a group of basically casuals that will defend their actions no matter what.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >The popularity was entirely organic. There were no such things as astroturfed shills or "influencers" back then.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >The Western equivalent in popularity from that same time period is Spongebob Squarepants.
      Really Spongebob is the American equivalent, and Harry Potter is the British equivalent. Both of those were extremely popular among kids at the same time as Pokémon, although Spongebob came a couple of years later. Pokémon debuted in Japan in 1996, Harry Potter debuted in the UK in 1997, and Spongebob debuted in the USA in 1999.

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