Is there a single video game that presents a dilemma as compelling and complex as this one made by a 12 yo?
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Is there a single video game that presents a dilemma as compelling and complex as this one made by a 12 yo?
Why wouldn't everyone just choose the red pills?
simple, most people are morons
you're a disgusting person. you should not be teaching a 12yo that it's "okay"to be such a selfish person.
There's nothing selfish about it. The blue pill offers conditional death, the red pill offers only life. There is no moral justification for anyone to take the blue pill.
What if I want to big sleep?
Then your best chance is to convince everyone else to pick red and be the only person who picks blue, otherwise you run a risk of people picking blue, depriving you of your release.
But if everyone is choosing a red pill, then everyone lives?
An estimated 50-70% of the population doesn't have an internal monologue. I'm not possibly dying for some worthless NPCs.
Because one options guarantees no deaths, the other option has a chance of no deaths with no benefits. Only a Black person would pick the red pill.
There's no risk of death if no one picks blue.
Your plan to avoid death is to have 100% of people pick the same option, while there's a way to achieve the same with only 50% of people doing it. Red is sub-optimal.
Because you can achieve 0 deaths more easily, whereas red practically guarantees deaths.
red is basically culling the morons
it's like choosing to play russian roulette with either empty gun and a gun that *might* be empty if enough morons pull the trigger before you
Same mentality can be used to justify any immoral behavior. You're no better than a selfish Black person.
>le selfish
If given the chance to kill the blue pillers, but I have to sacrifice myself too, i would take it. It's not about selfishness, it's about getting rid of emtional rats
It's ironic that you don't realize how emotional what you just posted is. If you truly believe this, then the only logical way to proceed is for you to have a nice day.
Only if I can take you seething blue pillers with me 🙂
I'll happily help fix the world of cretin's like you
100% of people do not want to live. 100% is not the universally desired outcome. At least 1% minimum are fricked in the head morons that are too pussy to kill themselves but would jump at the chance to die if someone else did the legwork for them and absolved them of agency. Blue guilt motherfrickers DESERVE to die for their god complex. They pick blue not out of their own interest but because they want to make the decision for someone else.
>Because you can achieve 0 deaths more easily, whereas red practically guarantees deaths.
No, someone picking blue guarantees deaths. There is literally 0 chance for death if you pick red. None. Absolutely fricking nothing. If everyone picks red, nobody dies. The only reason you would EVER pick blue is if you specifically want to die.
>If everyone picks red
You just repeated the same thing I said while failing to understand what it means. Any plan that requires 100% of people to act perfectly, when there's a plan available that only requires 50% of people to do so, is objectively inferior.
>Any plan that requires 100% of people to act perfectly, when there's a plan available that only requires 50% of people to do so, is objectively inferior.
This literally only makes sense if there's something to gain by picking blue, like money or something. As it stands, literally all that you get for picking blue is a chance to die. Why the frick would anyone take blue except if they wished for death? If someone jumps in front of a train I'm not going to jump with them to try and drag them back.
>This literally only makes sense if there's something to gain by picking blue, like money or something
Lives are gained, which are worth more than money or "something". A concept hard to grasp for a Black person, apparently.
But red guarantees living, and thus it's the option to save more people.
You clearly are fricking moronic because you insist on repeating the same thing no matter how many times you are explained that you are wrong.
Both options can potentially guarantee no deaths. The barrier for success for this desired outcome is lower by taking the blue pill, and practically impossible to achieve by taking the red pill. Therefore, it is morally correct to take the blue pill.
>Both options can potentially guarantee no deaths.
Yes, but red is the only options that can 100% guarantee no deaths.
The holocaust never happened.
No option 100% guarantees no deaths since you can't control what other people do, Jesus Christ, it's the fricking basic point of the whole question. The only way red could possibly guarantee no deaths is if you're the only person in the world. Use your fricking brain a little bit, please.
>No option 100% guarantees no deaths since you can't control what other people do,
Red guarantees my survival. There's no reason not to pick red. I honestly don't care if dumb people pick blue. You have to be a moron to pick blue. People die all the time. I don't have tears for all of them.
Then that's all you had to say. Instead of trying to justify your illogical action under the guise of guaranteeing no deaths, all you had to do was just admit that you're a selfish Black person. It wasn't that hard.
I never said red guarantees no deaths. I said red guarantees my survival. Red is not the illogical choice btw.
what's logical about wanting to save people?
Wrong, only way red is guaranteed 100% is if people weren't moronic and acted on emotion. You did this with a bunch of robots and they would all choose red, because it is the most logical answer
then choose blue moron
How the frick is it “morally correct” you sanctimonious homosexual? People who want to live will choose to live and people who want to die will choose to die. Taking the red pill literally avoids this “moral dilemma” altogether.
You can mathematically calculate that on average choosing the red pill will save more lives
And that's not even considering the quality of the lives saved
how much is a life worth and why
Go figure that out by yourself.
there are lives that mean a lot to me, yes. that is because they have value to me, myself, i. there are plenty of people who don't matter to me personally, whose deaths would not affect me. what of it? this value is not inherent, it is relative and therefore arbitrary. it does not exist to you nor anyone else. not to mention that even then the answer varies; some people matter but others matter more, meaning that there is no conclusive (i.e. meaningful) answer to that question.
and that's just me playing ball with your pathetic attempt to dodge the question.
anon why would you literally ever pick blue
literally nobody gains anything from blue
Suicidal people and the mentally moronic might choose blue, it's society's responsibility to save them by also picking blue. You should pick blue too, anon.
because skub is for israelites
moron nazi, but also global south brown person identified.
I'm not a cuck so I'd take the red pill and ensure my survival, why would I give a single frick about anyone else?
red ensures you save yourself
blue gives you a chance to save others
The only people I want to save are redpillers
But only if they deliberately put themselves at risk first.
Do you really want to save people like that?
But others can save themselves by not picking blue.
blue gives you a chance to be killed by others
Just imagine all that delicious guilt heaped on the redpills when they kill me... Yeah, I'm gonna pick blue. brb gotta jerk off
If you take the blue pill, you are a moron and the world will be a better place without people as low IQ as you. That's the reality, you are risking your life for fun and laughter.
so if everyone chooses red everyone lives, and those who want to die can choose blue to be given a guaranteed out, seems like a pretty easy choice for everyone
hmmm a lot of people in the thread are choosing blue, about 50% actually... maybe there something to this
youd be an idiot to not pick a red pill
>do you want to live, or maybe live?
dumbass frickin 12yo i'd whoop my sons ass if he was this stupid
>can see the percentage before voting
heh.
>the wrath of the righteous race poll that was compromised by this where nobody was ever going to pick cat because rat and fox were clearly in front of it
didn't help that people were going to want to vote against rat more than anything since ratgays are so hated so people who would have voted cat instead voted fox just to have a better chance at beating rat
WEW LAD
OH NO NO NO REDCELS RIP
Oh no it's moronic and red pills live anyway.
Never underestimate just how moronic ‘average’ is.
Based dark knight collective morality
Jaded incel jokers seething
>American politics have destroyed people's minds so badly that they immediately flock to the color blue without taking a moment to think because "red bad"
Help me euros I can't take it anymore
>no link to the poll
Post it, blue pill coward
faith in humanity restored :')
I guess Ganker really is just a evil shithole
I sometimes forget how stupid npcs are
>he says on his 50k salary.
How are they stupid when blue won? They survived and also didn't need to become heartless to do so. It's the best outcome.
>It's the best outcome.
They picked the least logical choice for a pointless gamble. We all lost because they're stupid and lived.
Heartlessness is irrelevant to survival. If they truely cared about survival, the wouldn't chose the choice with most resistance
This is actually an amazing test to find out who is the kind of person to do "good" for the sole purpose of feeling like they did the right thing instead of just doing good for goodness' sake.
There is literally no benefit to taking the blue pill FOR ANYONE unless someone decides "I am deliberately going to put my life at risk for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON." The only people you "save" by taking the blue pill are people who are sincerely hoping that other people put themselves at risk for no reason just so they can look better in comparison to red pill takers. If you choose blue, then YOU ARE THE ONE CAUSING DEATH TO BE A FACTOR.
It's like if you gave someone a revolver, let them load as many (or as few) bullets as they wanted (including ZERO bullets), and then told them to spin the chamber and shoot once at either their friend or themselves. If that person puts ANY bullets in the chamber, it doesn't matter if they point the gun at themselves. They're the ones at fault for putting life and death on the line. Imagine if someone did this to you, and after placing the revolver in their mouth and pulling the trigger on an empty chamber, they had the gall to say "I just saved your life."
Gosh mr virtuous, what are you planning to do to these evil subhuman redpillers?
I don't think you know how to read, but I can't find an image that will let you know what I think of you because everything insulting in my reaction folder requires you to at least be able to read the word "you."
You sound like such a nice person, nice dodge btw (but we all know what the implication was)
You jest, but these types of virtue signallers are the most dangerous. These are the foot soldiers of ideologies that run the prison camps, drink the kool aid, and march in the patriotic parades with a smile on their face. Small minded homosexuals with god conplexes who wish to decide for others what is best and justify their tyrannical behavior in the name of their ideology's greater good.
Bro youre an butthole, just own it instead of trying to justify it to make it seems like youre anything but.
I mean, it pisses you off that badly that it turns out not everyone is an butthole like you who doesn't give a frick about anyone else's life.
While red lack downsides, picking blue also does since it is not real and nobody will die even if proven wrong. I mean, we already know normalgays are huge hypocrites that will pretend to be saints as long as they don't actually have to walk the walk.
i would vote blue in the twitter poll but red in the real poll
>from my 12 yo
>what if we took the prisoner's dilemma and removed the dilemma part by making betraying a net gain for the group
Basically, yeah. You would have to actually be stupid to pick blue.
moronic kid
there's zero incentive to take the blue pill
introduce the kid to game theory so he becomes less moronic
this is kinda moronic
obviously everyone should pick the red pill
i pick blue pill so i can die
I'm choosing blue because it's my favorite color
>there are unironic twitter users who are raising children
jesus christ the next generation is fricked beyond measure
I pick blue as I want to kms
You want to kilometers per seconds?
>pick red
>guaranteed survival
wow hard choice
12 year olds must be fricking moronic, what a dumb question.
I have people I love who I don't want to see die, so I pick blue.
It's pretty selfish to force them to live without you though
>I have people I love who I won't tell to take the red pill and just bypass any threat of dying from this scenario
Either you're illiterate or you're just pretending to be dumb.
He means he doesnt want to outlive them and therefore see them die. In choosing blue he is hoping to die first
Or they, and you, could just pick red?
literally just pick red and tell them the same
if everyone one else picks blue, everyone lives
if a majority picks red, you and co. live and moronic blues die
this is like a prisoner's dilemma for the moronic
It should be that if the blue pill wins, all the redpillers become sex slaves for bluepillers.
it sounds like you want blue pillers to die no matter what happens anon
This. Blue lacking an incentive is the main problem with this setup. The core idea of it was good but they should get a substantial reward for putting their lives on the line with their choice. If reds can't die then at least they can owe you sex.
What's the point of blue, it just gives you a chance to die in exchange for no benefit whatsoever??
you can potentially save the lives of the other morons who picked blue lmao
Wasn't there a study where they asked a similar question?
well theres like a classic psychological thing thats like a scaled up prisoners dilemma where its like
you can choose $100 or $10
if more than 10% of people take $100 nobody gets anything
Yeah but in that scenario, there's no option where you as an individual gain the better deal with 0 risk
Here taking a red pill gets you the exact same thing in both outcomes and taking a risk with the blue pill doesn't get you anything extra
If most people pick blue then everyone lives. Only a selfish prick would pick red.
But if less than 50% pick the blue pill it's the same thing as >50% picking the red pill. It's the same fricking thing. The kids a moron.
And if everyone picks red, everyone lives
blue pill, that way there's a chance everyone dies
Wow so edgy homo. We're all really impressed lmao
no there's only a chance that 50% of people (minus one) die.
Assuming we're talking about it in the context of a choice in a game, I'd pick blue. I like to play the "good" character in games so it'd be an easy choice. IRL, with the actual possibility of dying, I'm not sure if I'd pick the same thing. I hope so, but I don't know what it'd truly be like to be in that situation.
If red wins, that means the most kind-hearted people die and we're left with a higher percentage of selfish buttholes among us.
The sort of kindhearted people that think "I have to risk my life, very stupid people might take the wrong pill by accident!" are not good. They're the ones who want parole for murderers because they saw a photo of them being sad. They're the ones who freak out when someone puts down a dying animal because "omg stop hurting it :("
>They're the ones who want parole for murderers because they saw a photo of them being sad
Yeah, how dare those dumb libtards want people to have a chance to redeem themselves for their past sins. That's not what Jesus would want!
Christian redemption has nothing to do with a law enforcement. Stop conflating the spiritual with the material.
Jesus did not preach suicide.
I'm not religious, I'm just aware that people have nature's that they follow and just aren't blank slates like we assume for some (no) reason. When they kill again, the innocent victim's blood is on the hands of people like you.
>nature's
phone posting from the toilet whoosp
Is this one of those things where we pretend to be moronic?
There are no established benefits to taking the blue pill, and there are no established detriments to taking the red pill, nor is it established that there are a limited number of red pills to go around.
There is nothing stopping everyone from taking a red pill and guaranteeing that nobody dies. It has nothing to do with selfishness or selflessness, because there is no benefit to taking the blue pill.
red pill takers are potential murderers and not everyone wants to be edgy. Some will be but not enough to make it more than 50% of the vote.
>RED COLOR.... BAD BECAUSE I SAY SO
god damn you're moronic, moreso than OP fpr posting a twitter screenshot from a other moron who's positing a moronic question from their retarsed offspring that doesn't even mention what you're talking about
all in all, an hero. homosexual
I can see they were making that game theory situation, but forgot to put some detriments to the selfish choice.
>and not everyone wants to be edgy
There is nothing edgy about going for the safest choice. Poll is nothing since there is no real risk involve in it.
I will of course kill blueBlack folk because blue is a shit color. So is red, but blue is worse.
i crush both pills and snort them while jerking off furiously in your backyard at 3am
this reminds me of that moronic elon tweet.
>you're stuck on a small island alone with ZERO chance of rescue
>you have to choose between a pallet with a billion dollars on it or a pallet of food
>which do you pick?
is this supposed to be like a trick cause there's no such thing as zero chance? who wouldn't take the food?
he's trying to show you that money isnt everything anon
No. It's since there is no chance of rescue, just take the billion so you'll at least die rich.
is the food perishable though?
>pick money
>pay for somone to pick me up on my satellite phone
Didnt say I had nothing on me 😉
if nobody will find you, money is useless to you
if someone finds you on a island with billion dollars, you're going to die
>Pick food
>It's a trick, all food is raw, and they rot within a day
>Eat as much as I can
>Die from food poisoning
>Pick Billion Dollars
>Free fuels to start fire for rest of my life
>Survive and die an old man on the small island with these weird bird creature that enjoys my company
Choose wisely.
depends on the form of the money. if it's all singles I'll take the money and just eat it since it would probably last longer than the food
If you're stranded on an island, focus on surviving. If you can leave without being rescued, you're going to become a millionaire anyway, just from selling books and appearing on TV and becoming a small celeb overnight.
>you're going to become a millionaire anyway, just from selling books and appearing on TV and becoming a small celeb overnight.
TV? this isn't the 90s, man
you have no idea how much money the biggest shows move
oprah alone is bigger than any youtuber
streaming killed the small time tv shows but the huge ones only grew larger, and most people stream them anyway, just because it's called tv doesn't mean it's on cable
how much does a guest on opera get?
like $3000? minus travel expenses
you don't get it at all
i get about as much as stranded on an island guy gets
Money, government would find you asap and demand their cut via tax
>pick money
>sew a billion dollars worth of bills into sail
>escape island
>I.O.U. notes are worthless if there's nobody to trade with
WOW what a revalation
goddamn I don't want to hate Musk but he makes it hard
>slowly suffer and die or even more slowly suffer and die?
I'll take the cash, at least then I can die sane, and a billionaire
I'd take the money, sure I'd die but I'd die a billionaire.
if I choose the money I'd just die a little later, and poor.
this becomes at least a little interesting if you just say you have no idea what your chance of rescue is
Money works as a great ignition starter, while he didn't specify what kind of food.
Is it canned food? Rations? What?
I can just go fishing and use the money to start fires, but I have no guarantee on the food beyond a day.
>take the money and starve soon
>take the food and starve later
everybody dies later
but not everybody dies with a billion dolllars
Unless it's a magic pallet of food that fills itself every night and somehow does not rot and last for at least 3 months then forget it, I pick the money.
REDCELS SEETHING AT BLUECHADS
*dies*
They did a poll below the tweet and it confirmed that blue would have a big majority. Thankfully the general population isn't as selfish as the losers on this board.
There's nothing selfish about it. It's a purely logical choice. If anything, it shows how many peopke decide on emotions rather than logic first
Well logic shows that blue wins since it won the poll by a landslide. So everyone would live, thankfully, and not just people like you that would be fine killing off a massive chunk of the population to save yourself.
>Well logic shows that blue wins since it won the poll by a landslide
That's a fact, not logic, brainlet. Maybe calm down before posting?
>Twitter screencap
KYS
Isn't this just a clever way to exterminate illiterate people?
No because no one dies. Blue wins with 65% of the vote so everyone lives no matter what they chose
There isn't any incentive to pick red outside of a lack of faith in humanity. I think it would be a tougher choice if it was 70% but 50% sounds easy enough of a bet to pick blue. Now if red fricks also got a 10% to win a free car too then red all the way.
In order for this not to be fricking moronic there needs to be a penalty if too many people choose the red pill option (which should equate to defecting in a prisoner’s dilemma). Otherwise it makes no sense why anyone should ever choose anything but red.
Basically, if >50% choose red, then everyone should die.
> if >50% of people choose the blue pill, everyone lives
> if not, 10% of red pills and all blue pills die, and repeat the vote next year
>Otherwise it makes no sense why anyone should ever choose anything but red.
No, it unfortunately makes sense as an IQ test, one that a lot of people are failing.
The obvious moral answer is every needs to pick red and force everyone else to pick red, but you can literally see tribalism kick in and people justify picking the blue option and/or they did not read it closely.
I pick blue, then I hunt everyone who picked red to ensure blue wins
This is how we make the illiterate Luddite utopia
if you pick red youre a midwit or possibly even low IQ. accept this and move on with your life armed with this new found self-awareness
Yep. They're controlled by their emotions and angst, unaware that most people are good and will pick blue. Their ass will be saved regardless(65% of people on twitter picked blue), but maybe they'll at least feel some guilt after the fact when they realise they were in an extreme minority of buttholes.
>bluepill's resorts to namecalling to survive
This isn't something you can poll because there's no actual risk. Anyone can navel gaze and game theory about stuff that doesn't actually affect anything. Blue voters would be lying about their results and taking red out of fear of death. People might also lie about taking red, because they're afraid of being seen as selfish. Which would you take, knowing no one would know, and that one might kill you and everyone else could be lying?
I take the red pill and wait for the worldwide average IQ to shoot through the stratosphere
yeah, opposite side of the globe though
This is a glorified social shit test. It weeds out and labels the people who don't make the blatantly stupid choice as "anti-social" and dangerous, even though blue voters manufactured the issue they want to solve.
>tell people that you pick blue
>know that you would pick red given the chance
Exactly, bluegays know this is just a hypothetical and use the opportunity to signal to others they're one of the "good ones" and otherwise and demonize those who don't make the same choice.
And yet the only virtue they're signaling here is ...suicidal vindictiveness
>Your options are to drink a poison that will kill you unless 50% or more of the population drink the poison
>Or don't drink the poison
Bluepillers are dangerous, look how quickly they pivot to declaring redpillers dangerous for being too not-moronic.
People who say they'd pick blue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wihaFybOrKw
How about not eating pills?
"you only have two choices" is bullshit since there is always someone giving you those choices.
So I choose to punch that 12-year-old.
>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T VALUE YOUR OWN LIFE MORE THAN OTHERS YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE BLUE JUST SO THAT YOU CAN SHOW OFF WHAT A GOOD AND TRUSTING PERSON YOU ARE
Question for bluegays: why don't you just switch to the red team and then everyone survives anyway? That's what you want, right?
Nobody is forcing you to pick blue. There is literally no reason why anyone ever has to pick blue.
If you ACTUALLY care about saving lives then you should recommend that someone else choose red, thus ensuring that they LIVE.
The only reason to pick blue is if you care more about virtue-signalling and LOOKING like you care about other people's lives, meanwhile if you ACTUALLY care about saving people's lives you should pick red and tell everyone to pick red so that they don't have a risk of dying over their moronic ego trip.
Bluegays are mentally ill.
i'm not gay, that's why not red
queerbo
So if 10 people out of 1000 pick blue instead of red you'd be fine with them dying? I'm not saying that your 1 pill would make a difference but you will be making a choice that will cause those people to die.
>I'm not saying that your 1 pill would make a difference
Imagine if it did. Imagine if red had the majority by only 1 and everyone had to live on knowing that they could have saved everyone else if they had just chosen blue.
I would live on happily knowing that we just removed a bunch of brainlets from society.
I will be telling the story to my grandchildren of how we redpills picker saved the world.
Thank you very much.
>I will be telling the story to my grandchildren of how we redpills picker saved the world.
you won't have any, all the women will be dead.
Anon, if every moron picked blue, they would live.
They greatly outnumbers populations with functioning brains.
Read homie read
said that "Imagine if red had the majority by only 1 and everyone had to live on knowing that they could have saved everyone else if they had just chosen blue."
If people want to die I don't think we have a moral obligation to stop them. That's between them, their family, and whatever God they may or may not believe in. Even less so to risk our lives to stop them by trying to organize a worldwide campaign of picking blue.
>So if 10 people out of 1000 pick blue instead of red you'd be fine with them dying?
I wouldn't be fine with it in the same way I wouldn't be fine with watching someone willingly walk into oncoming traffic when there's a trucker convoy on the road. Like, yeah, watching people die is unfortunate and I'd rather they not, but if you walk in front of a semi you can't blame the people who didn't walk in front of a semi for not running out onto traffic to forcibly wrench you back onto the sidewalk.
>So if 10 people out of 1000 pick blue instead of red you'd be fine with them dying?
People suicide all the time, am I suppose to constantly cry? You have to be a complete idiot to take the blue pill.
Its not really a suicide when the result comes from the actions of others. Reds are implicitly guilty in the death of blues. This is more like taking the last life raft on the titanic and watching the rest freeze to death.
>Reds are implicitly guilty in the death of blues.
Red didn't force blue to pick the pill. Blue took the pill willingly knowing they could die. Why don't blue just picks red instead? Their dead are on their hands.
Suicide is the result of the world pushing you to the conclusion that death is the only option, by your logic al suicide is murder
>10 gambling addicted morons gamble their life on a coin flip
>they lose
>why don't you feel bad?
they can ask God for a coin flip of going back to earth or not being allowed in heaven and getting sent to hell
Yes, people shouldn't use pure emotion to make decisions. Majority of the worlds problems are driven by emotion, not logic
No I'm NOT fine with them dying, that's why I am telling you morons to VOTE FRICKING RED SO THEY DON'T DIE.
the actual selfish choice would be to vote red but say I voted blue to look like a good person, by announcing my intention to vote red and encouraging others to do the same I am ACTUALLY saving lives by getting other people to protect themselves, as opposed to the bluegays who want to look like they're saving lives while actually condemning god knows how many.
>There is literally no reason why anyone ever has to pick blue.
The point of picking blue is to die. The 12 year old is crying for help but his twittard parent isn't picking up the signal.
If you think the world is bad now imagine what it would be like if all the blue pills ended up dying. You'd be stuck on a planet with the worst type of selfish buttholes.
>Zoomer's prisoner dilemma
I think the fact that there winds up being any contention at all, let alone this much, shows that removing the actual dilemma actually makes this "dilemma" MORE interesting with much MORE insight to be gleaned from it. This 12-year-old might be some sort of dark genius.
Man I feel like a total idiot. My initial answer was blue, because my logic was, why doesn't everyone just pick blue and we can all live? I didnt realize at first the same logic also applies to red, but better. I dont know how I missed that.
You were probably instinctively figuring it would be some sort of prisoner's dilemma situation in which there was some actual sort of quandary. It's pretty unexpected for there to be an option in something like this with no actual downsides, so it could well have blindsided you and probably many others.
Someone said choosing the blue pill has a chance of getting blood clots though.
Now that I think about it again, blue would be better. If red win, and I choose red, I would left with the world with buttholes, or at best, very pragmatic group, which can be annoying.
>now that's edgy.
You're just making it more appealing with each post
You're a beta, though. You'd be clocked immediately in the new paradigm for eradication.
>inb4 I work out
Muscle can't hide the pussy mind
keep going you're really convincing
Hey, I'm merely talking facts. A lot of 2016 newbies talk a big game but they're anything but conniving masterminds. I'm an out of shape 35yo but charisma and logistical skills would carry me in either outcome.
>I'm an out of shape 35y
No charisma will help you if you can't run away from danger or travel on foot. You will meet people that are impossible to reason with. Life is not a video game with speech checks. Your body will very quickly shut down without conditioning in prolonged dire situations. Logistical skills are baby tier skills a lot of people have. The fact that you can't even get in shape means you have no skills you imply you do. You mentioned it twice unprompted meaning you recognize its importance yet you ignore it which shows a weak will and lack of rigour, pivotal for good logistics.
You are beyond naive which is very sad for a person your age.
But I am not convincing anyone? I am saying that even with cool head, blue can be a good choice (for me, only me.).
Isn't that just the A B games from Virtue's last reward?
Betray and Ally have their own downsides, unlike this stupid farce.
AB game had the consequence of losing social capital if you chose betray. Choose betray when your opponent is at 1 BP? Basically attempted murder. You'd also be deadlocked if everyone chose betray, the only way forward to win as a group is to pick ally.
anyone who would pick the blue pill deserve to die t b h, no matter what %
you're net loss to this planet, no matter if you're virtue signaling homosexual or literal moron
So the choices are:
1- Pick the blue pill and have a 50% chance of surviving, or
2- Pick the red pill and have a 100% chance of surviving.
And people think themselves smart for picking blue?
>take red pill
>either I live and nothing happens
Or
>I live, and a bunch of self-fellating virtue-signalling cucks die
Whats the downside?
>Whats the downside?
Bluegays find out and label you a potential murderer
like i care what bluecucks think
You all would have supported the holocaust too
the what? idk what that is
Depends, would you be one of the israelites?
Frick red or blue, I want the "gas the israelites" pill.
Give me that one, I don't care what else it does.
>would have
Here I'll leave some spaces here so you can crop that and take that back to twitter
Whaaaaat, nawwww. Couldnt be meeee
I would if it was optional and you could just not go to the concentration camp instead of hoping there's enough morons to clog the shower room and break open the wooden doors
Are you implying I don't?
never heard of it
You support white genocide and worship Black folks. Youre the same
How are you a murderer because someone else willingly look a suicide pill?
Just don't take the moronic blue pill and you live.
How? They are all going to be dead.
>Whats the downside?
its only a thought experiment
Nuremberg 2
>So if 10 people out of 1000 pick blue instead of red you'd be fine with them dying?
Yeah. Why would I care?
Reality is worse.
In this example at least blue pill morons made their choice, in real life our streets are full of hundreds and thousands of homeless people who lost everything because of chance.
Red pill is limited and not everyone gets it while some get hundreds of them.
Which would moviebob pick?
Moviebob, more like Blue-vie Bob
He'd probably choose red honestly. I don't think he'd pass up a chance to kill large swathes of the human race. Dude clearly has a thirst for blood, it doesn't really matter who.
why is he always talk like he's a Nikola Tesla or something
he's a movie critic, one of the most unnecessary jobs there is
Red is the logical choice, as many have already pointed out
Blue, however, is the emotional choice, by picking blue you think you're going to save lives and by blue winning you "did it" and made a big difference
So yeah, no fricking wonder blue is winning the poll, many more emotional people than logical people
Let's add a twist.
After the last person has taken the pill, everyone still alive will be able to see what pill everyone else took.
Would you still take the same pill?
yes? i dont care what other people think
>OH MY GOD ANON TOOK THE RED PILL?
>duh b***h i want to live
>There is a giant, room sized blender that kills anyone who walks into it.
>But if 50% of the people walk into the blender room itll get jammed up and noone dies.
>Do you walk into the blender room or avoid the blender room?
Jesus christ, just tell everyone to take red.
If anyone's dumb enough to take blue, let them die, give them a Darwin award.
Yeah, the poll forgot the most important part, no cooperation or communication of any kinds.
frick your system, GREEN PILL b***hES
Why are people talking as if we don't know what the results would be? The original tweet was a poll and blue won with 65%. It wasn't even close, blue wins and everyone lives.
>The original tweet was a poll and blue won with 65%.
>only 65%
That's not reassurring at all anon. It is like asking how much you would tip and you know damn well that the real answer would be much lower.
What do you mean "the real answer"? That IS the real answer, you can look it up and check for yourself.
What I mean the real answer is what is in the poll and what people will do when shit hit the fan are vastly two different issue. Might as well just blindly guess.
Hell, Andrew dobson (remember him?) asked his fan how much they would spent on patreon. The result from the poll was so much more than what he got. And that was just a money, not life.
ahh found it.
>Indians and Chinese can vote in the real results
I dunno anon.... only Euros and Americans are so mentally ill they don't ensure their families survive first
No one’s life was actually in danger when they answered the poll, moron.
Same for the people that answered red, so what's your point?
This poll became irrelevant political wank as soon as they chose blue and red, with blue being the morally good choice.
He should have chose two random colours, like green and yellow
>moronic kid comes up with non-dilemma
>moronic twitter homosexual post it
>moronic anons argue about it
god I fricking hate this place
>initial thought:
>"I pick red because I want to live"
>after reading the thread:
>"I pick red because I want blue to die"
Personally I picked red but am happy blue won : )
saying "uh what if you just tell everyone to take red?" means youre an actual NPC. it completely negates the point of the dilemma. if you have to add that you're alone in a room and cant communicate to the dilemma then do it but youre still moronic for that
you can't explain it to them, these people haven't even thought about what color the sun is outside of crayons
is a giant, room sized blender that kills anyone
>NOOOOOOOO YOU SHOULD GAMBLE YOUR LIFE FOR THE BETTER GOOD!
you do that moron
Not equivalent. I saw people like you bringing up the blender polls in the thread when there's a big fricking difference between swallowing a pill to save others and stepping in a literal blender that will slice you to pieces. Why would anyone step in a blender when they could, you know, just not do that and have no one die?
>blender poll
I highlighted it by mistake and only noticed after already having posted
still marginally less moronic than anyone choosing blue
THERE IS NO DILEMMA
>it completely negates the point of the dilemma
It IS the point of the dilemma, whether it was intended to be or not.
If you pick blue then you are either:
a) confident that the majority will pick blue anyway, in which case you are just a virtue-signalling moron who is gambling your life for no reason
b) not confident that the majority will pick blue, in which case you are throwing your life away in the hope that enough people will also choose to throw their life away in order to save you, which you KNOW is likely not going to happen, so you are making yourself a burden for no reason
meanwhile, if you pick red, YOU SAVE ONE LIFE FOR SURE.
the only reason voting blue could matter is if that makes the blue votes outnumber the red by one, which is just as statistically unlikely to happen as everyone in the world picking red. so the moral positions of both sides both rest on implausible situations, but the difference is that choosing red saves at least one life while blue saves zero lives outside of this one incredibly improbable scenario.
>if you pick red, YOU SAVE ONE LIFE FOR SURE.
if everyone chooses Red then 50% of lives will be saved. it's a lot more than 1.
The only argument I could see for picking blue would be that some people don't have the necessary critical thinking skills to just pick red, and therefore as many people as possible should pick blue to save said morons from killing themselves.
Which makes the real dilemma "Is it worth risking your life to save people who are stupid enough to pick blue?"
>dilemma: be moronic and pick blue, or don't be moronic and pick red
Anyone faced with that dilemma would wonder why it was even proposed and start considering ulterior motives, such as virtue signaling. That's where communication becomes a factor, and if communication is a factor, then why not just use that to prevent people from making moronic choices?
You are the NPC, anon. You don't investigate beyond the surface of a problem and try to solve it optimally, you simply choose from the options given and have faith that their values and consequences are wholly described.
Literal goyim.
eat breakfast Black person
I swear there is a special place in hell who do this moronic shit to completely defined thought experiments.
Psychology isn't a real field, moron. Stop huffing your own farts.
>Psychology isn't a real field
hahaha homosexual
no soft sciences are real, it's all made up bullshit and if it wasn't we wouldn't be having a replication crisis
>jews invent pseudoscience
>pseudoscience becomes popular
>suddenly 'replication crisis' as esg funding replaces impartial interests
lol at this israelite
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If we didn't know the results then this could be a decent debate. But we know that blue wins by a landslide based on the twitter poll so you're basically asking people if they want to live, or live while being an butthole that tried to kill others. Weird to see so many people here justifying being an butthole when everyone lives either way because blue ends up winning.
see
people love to virtue signal when it seemingly doesn't affect them
I'd rather try to kill 50% of humanity and fail than live with myself if I never tried.
twitter polls mean jack shit
they're like when people say they'd take a bullet for someone
all talk until the event, then they freeze in place mortified
>while being an butthole that tried to kill others
What part of taking the red pill is an attempt to kill anyone? Death doesn't even factor into the equation until someone decides to deliberately put themselves on a chopping block for no reason at all. Taking the red pill says "I don't want death to be a possible outcome." Taking blue says "I not only want death to be a possible outcome for myself, but I also want other people to choose to possibly die as well."
If you tell someone to clap their hands or you'll have a nice day, you can't call them a murderer when you blow your own brains out for no reason.
Red is the only logical choice, sorry blues.
Blues dying is just a bonus
This is just a bastardized version of the prisoner's dilemma. Red is the answer.
If you pick red, you live either way. If everyone picks red, everyone lives. Blue gives you a chance to die for no reason.
The fact that anyone on this board thinks there is a dilemna at all is completely moronic. Literally the only reason you'd pick the blue pill is because you completely and utterly lack any critical thinking facilities. The only reason you'd pick blue is because you think other people are just as moronic as you and would also pick blue.
I pick blue to own the chuds
After we execute all of them our communist bluetopia will become real
See and that's the thing. If you take the blue pill you are a dumbass, because you have the same bit of knowledge that everyone else has going into this.
It would be different if you were told that there was a finite amount of red pills as a lie but you could pick it, or if every 5th person didn't have a choice and had to pick blue. When the options are laid out on the table, everyone should realize that picking red does not have a downside.
It's about putting up appearances for others.
>pick red
>guaranteed to live no matter what
>pick blue
>leave your life on the hands of the majority
easy choice, innit
Blue is just a suicide pill
And the experiment now just becomes
If you want to have a nice day take the blue pill, but if too many people take the blue pill nobody gets to enjoy the sweet release of death. Do you stay alive in your mortal coil for the sake of the others who wish for freedom?
I let deebo choose for me and rest soundly knowing I just saved all of mankind.
>HOL UP homie, so you be saying that you can either not press the detonator or press the detonator and hope enough fools will do the same?
>damn homie why we even talkin about this just don't press no damn buttons homie
>crazy ass crackers on SS Virtue Signal over there can do whatever they want but I don't want to die so don't press the damn trigger dawg, it's not like aynthing happens if you don't
>you better throw that shit out of the window or I¨ll throw you out with it homie
This post filtered not only all of twitter but this entire thread as well.
Note the condition of "everyone responding to this poll". Well how about not responding and taking NO pill at all?
Didn't think about that one did ya?
You saw a choice between red and blue pills and automatically thought that you had to choose one of them, even feeling superior because you could logically justify that one of the pills was better than the other.
But unfortunately, you fell for it, and you have all exposed yourselves as a complete clowns.
>he took the no pill
Bad choice friend
>take blue pill
die
>take red pill
live, but be morally compromised because you would be knowingly killing people who misunderstood the premise, such as very young children, the elderly, and the differently abled
>take no pill
absolved of all moral implications of the dilemma itself
homie you're differently abled if you'd pick blue
>live, but be morally compromised
but i'm not a redditor
>the red pill is better than the blue pill
the moron proudly says as he swallows a pill that is part of a mass-killing experiment when the option of not taking any pill at all exists.
>they said I wouldn't die because it's red lol morals aren't even real
as he swallows it with no regrets and literally less awareness of the obvious potential dangers than a fricking sheep.
morality is a spook
>morally compromised
Says you. I am blameless.
That changes nothing for red pillers.
you think ou're smart but in reality Morpheus would beat you up and push one of the pills up your ass and you would not even have a choice
RED SUS
>choose blue because you care about others
>the majority of the others choose Red
>die for others who would not die for you
wew
>picking the blue pill makes you literally Jesus
>have a nice day for others who would not kill themselves for you
FTFY
You're the one that chose to die, I didn't force you to die or anything of the sort. And you're right, I absolutely would not kill myself for the sole purpose of telling you that I killed myself for you.
I was indicating that Red is the correct choice, but ok
Blue is obviously the correct choice, and if you can't see why you are either stupid, sociopathic, or both.
>israelite who invents weapons of mass genocide for his competitors
Bluepillers aren't stupid, they're evil
This thought experiment would be at home in a struggle session and these screeching homosexuals are wannabe soviet commissars
for all red Black folk out there, would you still go red if your Mom was doing this test in a different room than you and you couldn't communicate? .
my mom would beat my ass if she learned I picked blue
My Mom would for sure pick blue so picking red might kill her.
>pick blue
>your mom picked red because she's not a moronic twitter user
>she now has to live with endless guilt feeling responsible for your death
great job idiot
My momma ain't stupid
Red.
Anyone who doesn't pick red is just an idiot and deserves it. There is no downside whatsoever to everyone just picking red. This is like the opposite of a prisoner's dilemma.
Should make blue die regardless just for kicks to improve average IQ of humanity
Blue doesn't all die at once, they just randomly drop dead suddenly here and there
I'd chose red. Blue people's lives are not worth risking my own.
This is more like the free rider problem rather than the prisoners dilemma
>flip a coin to see if you die
Is this supposed to be profound or something?
the irony of this thread being filled to the brim with safe-edgy virtue signaling
If not walking into a burning building to save morons who set it on fire on purpose is edgy then call me Shadow the Hedgehog
It's not enough to be not edgy, you have to be anti-edgy
Virtue signaling is the act of saying something to look good that you wouldn't actually do in real life. Saying what you would actually do is sincerity, not virtue signaling you stupid imbecile.
I misread this as a normal prisoners dilemma and thought this thread was just full of psychopaths but no there is actually no reason for anyone to ever pick blue in this version.
lmao
I wonder how many idiots made the same assumption
Shouldn’t there be some sort of incentive for people to chose the red pill? And even then it’s just the prisoner’s dilemma.
>bluepillers when they're burning in hell
>"NOOOOOO I WAS HECKIN SAVING PEOPLERINOOOOO!!!!"
Literally what is the downside to picking red? If no one picks blue, no one dies. If a few people pick blue, they die. If more than half pick blue, no one dies. Red literally never dies, ever, and picking blue isn't "saving" anyone because they literally chose to NOT pick the "you cannot die" option
Pick red 'cause I don't wanna risk dying, simple as
>but the children and morons-
I'd kick them into the blender myself
>but you're an butthole
not a crime
sadly, kicking children and morons into blenders is a crime in most places
Red Pill. No risk, and you never have to meet anybody else who took the blue pill. No gain for the blue pill outside thinking it will save people, but that thinking is the only reason to choose the blue pill. So choosing the blue pill in the first place is wrong.
LMAOing @ bluepillers, you morons would be like 2% and thinking "how could this happen, it was the morally correct choice" as you'd choke on your own blood
Guys the real dilemma is "Whether or not you should risk your own life to save disabled people (aka blue pickers)". It's like a trolley problem.
This thread proves Ganker is not as dumb as I thought.
In this game, the dominant strategy is in Nash equilibrium. It's irrational to choose the blue pill, and the only cause one has to do so is to save the others who also made the same irrational decision. The only interesting thing about it is that apparently the majority of Twitter users are moronic.