Is there an argument to be made that BW>BW2?
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Is there an argument to be made that BW>BW2?
Is there an argument to be made that BW>BW2?
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wow game freak really is bad at 3d
T. Kalosperm
Literally looks great for the DS, kys
>10kb .jpg
yeah when you have a 10kb .jpg image of a game with shit 3D it does tend to show the shit 3D
yeah no shit
you prefer dogshit over diarrhea, i guess
it depends on what you value in a game. but, in my opinion, that such a discussion can be had at all speaks to the quality of gen 5.
The climax and story beats in a vacuum are way better in BW1, but not really no.
What’s with you morons dancing around the question in cryptic bs
Either say yes or no than provide an answer. Not rocket science, OP DIDNT ask for your personal opinion on the games
>but not really no
Are you blind?
BW stayed true to Masuda’s magnum opus vision and kept Unova Gen5 mons-only. b2w2 compromised that by haphazardly throwing invasive GenWun pests to pander to Kantumors
>GenWun
There's more Hoennshit if anything.
>BW>BW2
BW has better regional identity than B2W2 because of the locked off dex.
But I can't think of a way that BW is better than B2W2 besides that niche case
>the person trying to get honest discussion instead of off bait opinion posting and pointless rabbit trails is the discord gay
have a nice day
go back
Go back to the noose baiting cuck
I'd say sticking to the Unova mons and N having a greater presence are high marks. The ending is better as well
>Is there an argument to be made that BW>BW2?
There were a couple of things I preferred in BW to BW2.
I like the MC trainer designs better
While the pokemon variety was better in BW2 for sure, I did appreciate the attempt at a whole new dex in BW even if the execution wasnt perfect. I managed to go into it pretty blind and had a good time wondering what some of the things I ran into would do/become.
Having the story peak at the end with the fight with N and then Ghetsis, BW2 did what a lot of games do where you beat the evil team first and then go get another badge and go become the champ after, which always felt a bit off to me
A situation where BW is better? Yes, BW has more N.
>BW has more N.
>He's always available, unlike in BW1 where he's absent as soon as the credits roll
>Seasonal rematches
>There's still a Ferris Wheel event
>You get to catch N's Pokemon
Not really lol
In the story, but valid point.
Less KANTOOOOO dick sucking.
No PokerStars studio
The story is a bit tighter imo. Ghetsis and N work a lot better there. Same with the rivals - Bianca and Cheren hold up a lot more than Hugh, who has a really rough plotline to follow.
I’d also echo some of the other posts here that there really is a somewhat unique experience with the entirely gen V dex (moreso if you played it when it came out and literally everything was new to you) that just doesn’t exist in other games.
I think Elesa’s BW design is better, too. The protags are just a matter of taste.
The male MCs in both games pale in comparison to the female designs t.bh
Hilda is a great design in general, but I like Hilberts design the most of the male MCs
Out of all the games? I think Ethan from gen 2 is the best male design
um ackchyually his name is Gold in Gen 2
yeah i'd say so, between the asinine nothingburger story and the dex expansion removing the feeling of unova being extremely isolated from the other regions BW2 feels like a romhack that misses the point of BW. the new mons do definitely add a lot to the experience but they take a lot away too. the changes to the progression through the region and the new map layouts were basically a straight upgrade though. personally i've never seen BW2 as anything but a mixed bag, whereas BW was solid all around. i know this is an unpopular opinion though.
also nate and rosa are a serious downgrade from hilbert and hilda.
and you are a serious downgrade from your parents. anything else?
>No route 10 because landslide
>Best route song in pokemon history is secluded in a small house you can only access in one season of the year in the postgame
I like black and white 2 but this was a baffling decision , they should've just repurposed it in the dev room or something
>best route song
Oh I didn't know route 113 was in Unova
>Best route song
but enough about Route 42
yes I always liked BW better, but listing all the things would feel more like a BW2 hate post. It mainly comes down to not liking the changes BW2 made.
In BW the region felt linear at first glance, but it when BW2 changed it I liked BWs Unova more. Same with the story. I only remember the stupid flying airship, and I like airships but everything about the BW2 story felt wrong.
When you were wandering through the ruins of the castle, I believe after victory road or after the league idk, you were literally wandering through the ruins of BW and it felt like it. But I didn't get anything out of this other than: I liked that better. Why can't this stuff be intact again?
I believe the forced 40min tutorial in BW2 makes people put up a "I need to get over this" mindset. This was probably the biggest mistake they ever made in the franchise.
Sorry that I cannot provide a better argument but it's about 10 years ago since I last played Gen5 and I'm only on XD now that I replay everything from the start.
No need to apologise at all, your take was cool and informative Anon
It wasn't.
I'm so tired of this genwar shit man.
Op here
Dude, none of this shit genwar. Read moron, both these games are the SAME GEN. I’m asking if there’s any case for the OGs being better than the sequel. Not once in this thread is another Gen even mentioned. Paranoid c**t
Clearing wasn't talking to you, dumb Black person.
>posts reply to thread
>reeee that wasn't for you
Don't respond to me, I'm not talking to you.
Yes, the reply wasn't for you though moron.
Now who is being the Paranoid c**t?
>everyone else on Ganker is the same person
Not being able to tell people apart is a sign of being autistic and other mental disabilities.
I agree, but that brings us to the question of who are you quoting?
Pretending you don't understand greentext isn't the brag you think it is.
Bragging about what? I was asking a question. Getting emotional like this can't be good for you.
Can't into colloquialisms? You're "clearing " a moron.
>getting this mad over a typo
Oh dear. We're backtracking now?
"clearing" you understood what I meant anyway. I think we should start talking about those "autistic and other mental disabilities". You "clearing" have some issues to still be talking about this.
>"clearing" you understood what I meant anyway
And you knew what my greentext meant. You're btfoing yourself now with all these no u's.
Ok moron. Why even stroll into my post and cry about genwar when it wasn’t happening? Do I go into kfc and start having a meltdown about global warming, then call out the employees when they ask me why tf im bothering them about it?
Humble yourself. Go dilate somewhere else, please
The last hours of BW1 are better than whatever Neo Team Plasma was trying to do. But BW2 is more fun as a total package with the bigger pokedex and sidequests.
BW1 having an isolated roster “makes sense” for world building, but also led to stuff like Dragon characters using the same 2 or 3 Pokemon. Where BW2 roster allows for very diverse npc battles overall.
Wrong quote, meant to quote
I definitely liked BW better. The story and characters were more enjoyable to me, and it kept to its unique identity while BW2 reverted back to throwing old gen Pokemon everywhere.
The map structure worked better as well in my opinion. Instead of creating new maps for the post-game ala FRLG the Gen 5 sequels opted to simply move what was early-game routes to the post-game, and vice versa, resulting in a mishmashed retreading of the games from a mere one year prior. As such BW2 ended up having better post-game facilities but less to explore before and after the credits.
BW1 has my wife, BW2 does not
If they introduce her in the upcoming Unova game and she's older and married how would you feel?
Depends who she married, also if that does happen they better have Bianca and Cheren married as well
She will marry ghetsis
Who would you prefer to see
Hilbert
The central conflict in BW is more appropriate, whereas in BW2 it’s kind of a retread with more spectacle.
But that’s pretty much it I’d say. I like both games but BW2 is noticeably superior, at least in what I personally value.
>pretty diverse encounter tables. Inclusion of non-Unovan Pokémon may help region identity but I liked having new Pokémon almost every route.
>genuinely love Hugh as a character. Respected his passion and determination
>shitloads of side activities and postgame content including a lot of new routes and legendaries actually placed within the world
>prefer Kyurem to the other two dragons, particularly Kyurem-Black.
Both games are good, again, but I believe BW2 has more to offer
It saves all old Pokemon for postgame. The "everything is new" design gives BW a feeling players didn't have since Gen 1.
Even aside from the subjective quality of the designs for the Gen V mons, so many Gen V mons being retreads of Gen 1-4 mon severely diminished the new factor.
I disagree. It was the perfect blend of "this is new" but also "not so new as to be unfamiliar and scary."
I wish they'd changed some of them up mechanically
Unfezant and Gigalith should have been special attackers
Another solution for Gigalith is giving it Drought, moves that take advantage of sun(Heat Crash, Solar Blade, Morning Sun etc) and a Rock signature move that works like Hydro Steam but physical(Igneous Blast or the like)
Hell, do both
Drought, Power Gem, Solar Beam is a neat set that makes sense for its description
Yes. As it certainly has the better story.
I liked that it was only new mons. That was much needed after Sinnoh was full of Zubat, Tentacool and Geodude for the 4th game in a row.
Yes because it didn't lean into shameless nostalgia pandering
It's the same shit as Gens 1-4 but with WORDS WORDS WORDS. You're an idiot.
BW is piss easy. You are also an idiot.
BW is full of pace-braking cutscenes all the way until you meet Looker after the credits. You're a hypocrite and an idiot too.
No. Idiot.
>BW is piss easy
I didn't say BW was harder than B2W2, just that B2W2 could have been harder but decided not to be because they held back the true difficulity to an nonfunctional postgame mode
BW doesn't purposefully hold back the game's difficulity for a post game only "hard mode" that doesn't even work properly, so yes
The main BW2 improvements over BW is the map and the decision to include older Pokémon. BW1 with BW2s map + BW1 exclusive areas and around half of the old gen Pokémon they added in would be hard to improve upon without entering remake territory.
Thing is I never said or even imply that everyone on Ganker was the same person. I just said the original response wasn't for you. You were the one that brought up that. So who were you quoting? maybe you should go back getting mad over typos.
BW story and atmosphere as a whole felt completely new compared to previous pokemon games, it was really fun going around catching new mons and seeing counterpart mons like "Oh, so this is BW's zubat/ralts/etc". It was refreshing.
BW2 for me felt like a glorified DLC. Sure, it was fun and there were many great additions but it doesn't capture the same vibe BW had.
That's a weird question, I think the only reason BW2 is "better" than BW is because it's the follow up sequel to the original, rather than an objective upgrade that leaves no reason to play the original like DP to Pt. If someone has never played gen 5, I'd tell them to play BW because BW2 isn't nearly as good without playing the first.
There are some things BW does better, probably, I like Cheren and Bianca more than Hugh, for example, but BW2 feels like the more complete experience.
The pacing of the game. BW feels very consistent from start to finish, but BW2 flip-flops all around from sections where nothing fricking happens (like the beginning being fricking bombarded with cutscenes and shit like pokestars) into sections where you're just hopping from gym to gym and all of it blurs together because it happens so fast. BW2 usually ends up losing my interest at some point because of it.
Yes BW Lillipupwalks BW2. It has the better characters, writing, ending, and story
>Me playing BB2
>Beat blacked tower
>Reached the reserve area
>Caught the shiny haxorus/Arceus (forgot and who fricking cares)
>Beat lvl 105 Hilbert/Hilda
Go back to Unova
>Decide to end my journey on one last ride on the Royal Unova
>After the ride enter into a random house in the train station town
>Close the game
Simple as, memories are more valuable than the games as you get older.
Those who lose memories seek to carve them into their hearts.
nope