Is there any city or route music from Gen VI+ that is actually memorable or that you'd be able to hum without looking it up first? The first five generations all have masterpieces and some forgettable tracks, but it seems like the transition to 3D completely got rid of overworld music that stands out.
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Route 15.
That's it.
>are there people who aren’t braindead nostalgiagays like me?
yes
>cannot distinguish actively liking retro music as a nostalgiagay from involuntarily remembering memorable tracks
>unnecessarily conflates not standing out with being bad
American reading comprehension
>I can’t actually make an argument except OLD THING GOOD but I’m not a moronic genwar instigating nostalgiagay I swear!
Nowhere did anyone say that new music is bad, the only thing we are debating here is how memorable recent music is, not its quality. Not everything has to be a genwar nor has anyone claimed to hold any absolute truths so far.
An interesting question would be is it less memorable or have we just been exposed less to it?
I remember most of the Gen 2 soundtrack, but then I've played it for decades and the remakes. I don't remember Gen 7 so well but then I only played it twice.
>I can't actually make an argument except YOU'RE JUST NOSTALGIC and ignoring entire premises of discussion but I'm not a moronic schizo nugengay I swear!
Route 1 Alola
West part of Paldea(riding)
South part of Paldea(riding)
Lands of Kitakami
Lumiose City
Camphier Town
Pokemon League Kalos
Hau oli city
Paniola town
Ultra Megalopolis
Alfornada
These are the ones that I didn't even had to think of
wanted to say East part of Paldea, I always mix East with West
>these people play video games with the sound on
Lol. Lmao
i really like cascarrafa. reminds me of jubilife city
Reminds me of digimon world 3
That's some nice music
I like a lot of xy music
Except the e4 and gym battle themes
I personally find the ORAS soundtrack pretty excellent. A fine remix of the original Gen3 soundtrack for Hoenn.
I am glad I can at least enjoy the music of newer games
Alola Route 1 has become pretty iconic
A lot of Poketubers and stuff use it as BGM
I can't hum and Alola tunes offhand but I'm sure if I had one or two in my head I would remember the rest of the soundtrack
I couldn't hum any music that isn't from gen 1 or 2.
here's your route music, bro
Oh, so your sperging over an unrelated question s fueled by your hatred of Gen 5. Got it. No need to engage with your pathetic ass anymore.
>y-you just hate gen 5
>please ignore the fact that my post is explicitly trying to shit on games after gen 5
It’s funny when Unova fanboys start genwars and then when their bullshit gets called out they try to gaslight people into thinking others are the ones starting genwars.
>explicitly trying to shit on games after gen 5
Show me exactly where.
So you can't show me where and you're just trying to start some petty genwar bullshit single-handedly. Got it.
>only ever used in a strictly negative sense
This is your fanfic anon. In the exact post you replied to, that anon said something can be good without being memorable. Try listening instead of sperging. You might learn a thing or two, especially with regards to the functionality of the english language.
Stop replying dumbass
> So you can't show me where
I did show you where.
> you're just trying to start some petty genwar bullshit single-handedly
No, no, no, you chose to do that when you made this thread. Cut out this pathetic attempt at deflecting and gaslighting you’re doing.
> In the exact post you replied to, that anon said something can be good without being memorable
And in the exact post he replied to, I’m referring to (You)r post in the OP where you’re very obviously trying to use forgettable in a negative sense just like literally everyone on this board does. Try again.
>I did show you where.
I said what part specifically. All you did was refer me to OP without saying what part of his post is saying what you think it said.
>you chose to do that when you made this thread
Not only was that not me, but it's only a genwar if you equate memorability to being intrinsically good. Which it isn't, so it is not a genwar.
>obviously trying to use forgettable in a negative sense
You're inventing problems. No one implied that it's a detriment and makes the game worse. The OP is quite literally a cookie cutter way of saying it's forgettable and nothing else. Stop being schizophrenic. You're the only one shoehorning genwargayging.
I agree.
isn't a genwar.
Music up through BW still runs through my head. I remember literally nothing from any game beyond that, and it struck me with X and Y how unmemorable and un-catchy the new music has been.
I actually think XY did really well with battle themes.
A lot of them kinda register in my mind as the default battle music for the context it's used in, when I think of a wild Pokemon battle theme it's the XY version, when I think of a trainer battle theme it's the XY version.
Okay, you should have just said you're schizoposting from the beginning. The only time the word "forgettable" was used was in relation to the gs you think I'm defending. Otherwise, after your brain develops some more, maybe you'll be able to understand that something can be good without being memorable (such as one of the Wild Area themes that I remember liking without being able to remember how it sounded) and vice-versa.
>please ignore that “memorable” is the opposite of “forgettable” and that I’m claiming nothing after gen 5 is memorable
>please ignore that “forgettable” is only ever used in a strictly negative sense I’m not a genwar instigating moron I swear!
The backpedaling you’re doing because you realized your genwar homosexualry got called out is fricking hilarious.
that post starts with a question that you are free to answer positively or negatively, encouraging you to bring arguments and examples accordingly. it is not followed by a fact, but by an opinion that is explicitly stated as such, hence the word "seems", in order to clarify why the question is being asked. this is commonly called a conversation. if you think this is supposed to be a genwar, you have issues & need to touch grass.
Wow OP got totally btfo'ed in the first 10 posts.
yeah it turns out “I can’t remember it” is a completely meaningless and utterly subjective statement and OP just felt like randomly shitting on gens he doesn’t like. Go figure.
>“I can’t remember it” is a completely meaningless and utterly subjective statement
it's almost like that's the point and you're spinning it as if every thread is supposed to be invested with genera vermin like you. No one is insulting your precious little games because forgettable is not a measure of quality. No matter how well composed a movie track is, it'll still be less memorable and catchy than the Super Mario theme.
Is there any route in Gen V that isn’t utterly linear and easy? Every other gen has challenging and engaging routes with lots of exploration but it seems like in the transition to animate the sprites in Gen V they completely got rid of any level design that stands out.
BTW I’m totally not a genwarring moron because “linear” and “easy” aren’t strictly negative words and I used the word “seems” so I’m totally trying to have an honest discussion :^)
The difference here is that it's blatantly false. Gen 5 has greatly complex and hard-to-navigate routes. You're only posting this within the context of OP, which means you're genwarring. OP posted in a vacuum, meaning it's fair discussion because memorability doesn't determine good or bad music, but linearity and easiness to navigate is quite literally the bad way to make a Pokemon route. have a nice day, genwarcuck.
>The difference here is that it's blatantly false
So…like (You)r OP post? Since there are very obviously people who exist who will remember Gen 6+ music? Congrats moron, you just inadvertently pointed out how moronic and flamebaity your post is.
>So…like (You)r OP post?
Not mine and no, those later gens have music that fewer people consider as memorable. Stop being intentionally obtuse just to pretend others are.
OP said nothing about “fewer people”. You just said they aren’t memorable period. Stop attempting to backpedal out of your blatant frick up.
The more memorable something is, the more people remember it. No one is suggesting that humanity collectively got wiped of any record of newer gens. Stop being intentionally moronic to pretend others are.
>The more memorable something is, the more people remember it
It has nothing to do with “more people”. It’s a purely subjective thing that varies to each individual person. If you were actually being honest you would just claim everything after Gen 2 is forgettable since far, far, FAR more normies have been exposed to Gen 1 and 2 music than any other gen. Stop trying to backpedal out of your own frick up.
>If you were actually being honest you would just claim everything after Gen 2 is forgettable since far, far, FAR more normies have been exposed to Gen 1 and 2 music than any other gen
Well no, that wouldn't make sense. It would make more sense to judge how likely someone would be able to remember something after being exposed to it. If only a hundred people heard a song and all of them hummed it the next day, but millions hum pokemon every day yet hundreds of millions probably played it, it would still be the case that the indie game has more memorABLE music, but Pokemon has more remembered music.
>Well no, that wouldn't make sense
Yes, it does. Why did you randomly make the cut off Gen 5 and not Gen 2? It’s very obviously because you’re trying to make some binary statement that Gen 6+’s music is bad.
>how likely someone would be able to remember something after being exposed to it
Again, which completely varies from person to person so your post is is very obviously wrong.
>Why did you randomly make the cut off Gen 5 and not Gen 2?
Because it happens to be OP's opinion that Gen 5- have more memorable tunes. This has zero bearing on if he thinks they are objectively better made music.
>varies from person to person
So what? If overall half of the people hearing something remember it compared to another song where a third remembers it, the first song is more memorable. This isn't a hard concept.
I chose Gen VI because that is when I feel their approach to music changed in terms of rhythmicity, without once thinking about quality.
> Because it happens to be OP's opinion that Gen 5- have more memorable tunes
And it just happens to be my opinion that Gen 5 happens to have linear and easy routes. Glad you agree
isn’t genwars.
I chose Gen V because that is when I feel their approach to level design changed, without once thinking of quality.
>Gen 5 happens to have linear and easy routes
demonstrably false
>feel their approach to level design changed, without once thinking of quality
That doesn't make sense because memorability doesn't determine good or bad music, but linearity and easiness to navigate is quite literally the bad way to make a Pokemon route. have a nice day, genwarcuck.
> demonstrably false
Just like Gen 6+ music not being memorable. All I have to say is “I remember it” and I’ve disproved you.
> That doesn't make sense because memorability doesn't determine good or bad music
And easiness and linearity doesn’t determine good or bad level design.
>All I have to say is “I remember it”
Nope. You're mistaking something being remembered for being memorable. Memorability is how likely someone is to remember is, which is to say how many people out of people who heard it remember it. This was already explained
>easiness and linearity doesn’t determine good or bad level design
it objectively does with routes though. There are nest to none other criteria with routes.
> Nope. You're mistaking something being remembered for being memorable
They mean the same thing.
> Memorability is how likely someone is to remember is
And I’m heavily likely to remember Gen 6 music. So all I have to do is say “I remember it” and I’ve proven you wrong.
>B-BUT OTHER PEOPLE
Nope. That’s not what the word means.
> it objectively does with routes though.
And I can just easily claim forgettability objectively makes music bad.
>They mean the same thing.
Stop being moronic. Being remembered means at least one person remembers it. Being memorable means a high percentage of people who heard it are likely to remember it.
>me personally
doesn't matter. You're proving it's remembered, not memorable.
>that's not what the word means
Says you. Stop conflating the two.
>I can just as easily claim a falsehood.
Pokemon's main theme is objectively more memorable than whatever song played in George Washingtons funeral, even though it was probably an objectively better made song. They're not the same.
>Being memorable means a high percentage of people who heard it are likely to remember it
That’s not what that word means. Pick up a dictionary.
> doesn't matter
Yes it does. Memorability is subjective.
> Says you
Says the English language.
> Pokemon's main theme is objectively more memorable than whatever song played in George Washingtons funeral
Source?
>Pick up a dictionary
Just did. "Easily remembered after exposure". The more people who remember it after being exposed to it, the more memorable it is.
>memorability is subjective.
No it's not. See above.
>Says the English Language
No it doesn't. See above.
>Source?
In this specific case it's catchiness and simplicity makes it easier for the brain to remember. This contrasts with most classical music, which is of objectively higher quality yet harder to remember because of it's intricacies.
>Easily remembered after exposure
I easily remember Gen 6 music after exposure. I proved you wrong. Oops.
>No it's not
Yes it is. It's the peak example of something that's subjective since it purely varies from person to person.
>No it doesn't
Yes it does.
>In this specific case it's catchiness and simplicity makes it easier for the brain to remember
Source?
>I easily remember
Overall, the song is not easily remembered though because most people don't. Therefore, it's less memorable.
>variation = subjective
That's like saying "black skin is less common than white skin" is subjective. Stop being moronic. Less people remembering it is objective.
>no u
not responding to this
>Source?
Ask anyone who ever remembered it and they'll tell you why.
You're trying to do this sneaky thing again where you're trying to change the argument from "not memorable" to "less memorable" because you realized you fricked up and revealed your obvious genwars. It's so funny.
You lost
You won
In this specific case, at a certain point if too few people remember it, it's not memorable. Just like how slavery is unacceptable even though many people at some point accepted it.
>In this specific case, at a certain point if too few people remember it, it's not memorable
That's not what the word means.
>That's not what the word means.
It quite literally is. I even provided an example.
Again, because you're relying on more total people in that case instead of a higher percentage of people who remember it after hearing it. Stop the circular logic, you already tried this before.
>It quite literally is
It quite literally isn't.
>I even provided an example
An example that still doesn't prove your point since slavery -is- acceptable depending on the context? Wow.
Slavery is unacceptable anon. Something not being memorable means it's hard to remember it. Some people will still end up remembering it, making it remembered, but not memorable. Just like how some people accepting slavery doesn't make it acceptable.
>Slavery is unacceptable anon
Slavery is acceptable anon.
>Something not being memorable means it's hard to remember it
How hard something is to remember is completely subjective. Therefore I can just say I remember Gen 6's music and I've proved you wrong.
>Just like how some people accepting slavery doesn't make it acceptable.
Just like how some people not accepting slavery doesn't make it unacceptable.
>Stop the circular logic,
You're the one using circular logic. Your entire argument is "more people remember gen 5 music than gen 6+ music because uhhh I said so"
It's funny you only mention that now. You didn't even dispute that until now. All you did was say "if one person remembers it it's good lmao". Now that you mention it, I can actually provide proof that a higher percentage remember it. I know you probably hate YouTubers and so do I, but more of them use Gen 5 music in the background, for example. Additionally, there are more uses of Gen 5 music on all social media, including memes, even though less people played it/were exposed to it. Show me where people praise specifically the musical melodies of Gen 6, as it's much rarer. This indicates that it's harder to remember. Even in this thread, no one contested it except for (You).
>You didn't even dispute that until now
I did, because literally all I have to say is that I remember Gen 6's music, since memorability is purely subjective.
>B-BUT SOCIAL MEDIA AND YOUTUBERS
This just brings us back to "why didn't you make the cut off Gen 2 instead of Gen 5". You're not very smart, are you?
>In this specific case, at a certain point if too few people remember it, it's not memorable
And yet conveniently, you chose Gen 5 as the cut off and not Gen 2 when drastically more people remember Gen 1-2 music. It's almost as if you're just a genwar instigating moron with no standards and just felt like shitting on gens you don't like.
You won (yawnchad always does, duh)
You lost. badly
Parrotting is an admission of defeat.
>Slavery is acceptable anon.
Nope. Try again.
>How hard something is to remember is completely subjective.
While it might vary from person to person, overall we can determine objective difficulty by what percent of people succeeded or failed.
>some people not accepting slavery doesn't make it unnacceptable
But it is unacceptable
>all I have do is [fanfic]
I already explained how this is not how it works. Black skin is less common, so saying you're a Black person doesn't mean it's somehow equally possible
>this brings us back to [unrelated tangent]
How are those remotely the same? Defend your schizophrenia now.
>Nope. Try again.
Yup. Try again.
>overall we can determine objective difficulty by what percent of people succeeded or failed
Cool! Now who determines the percent threshold? You who happens to put it at the gen you like because you're blatantly just a moron who's just trying to start genwars?
>But it is unacceptable
But it is acceptable.
>I already explained how this is not how it works
It is how it works because it's what the word means.
>How are those remotely the same?
Because now you're trying to shift to a moronic ad populum argument because you realized how utterly stupid your post is.
>Yup.
Nope. Slavery's unacceptable.
>who determines the percent threshold
The fact that more people reference BW's music over XY's despite more people having played the latter.
>Slavery is acceptable
Nope. Slavery's unacceptable.
>It is how it works because it's what the word means according to me even though I was shown how it is not.
Nice circular logic.
>ad populum
Maybe because you seem to conflate one person remembering something with something that is easily remembered, therefore is memorable.
>Nope. Slavery's unacceptable.
Yup. Slavery is acceptable.
>The fact that more people reference BW's music over XY's despite more people having played the latter.
And more people reference Crystal's music over BW's despite more people having played the latter. Oops. Guess BW isn't memorable.
>Nope. Slavery's unacceptable.
Yup. Slavery is acceptable.
>Nice circular logic.
Just copying your circular logic.
>Maybe because you seem to conflate one person remembering something with something that is easily remembered, therefore is memorable
That's literally what the words mean, yes.
>Slavery is acceptable.
Objectively false.
>Crystal > BW
Both are still referenced a lot, unlike XY's.
>Slavery is acceptable
Objectively false.
>Just copying you lol
I demonstrated how my logic is not circular, but rather you're just denying it. You're not even denying your logic being circular.
>That's literally what the word means.
Objectively false. The moon's surface has been accessed, but isn't accessible.
>Objectively false.
Objectively true.
>XY isn't referenced a lot because uhhhh I said so
zzz
>Objectively false.
Objectively true
>I demonstrated how my logic is not circular
No you didn't.
>Objectively false.
Objectively true.
>The moon's surface has been accessed, but isn't accessible
It's both. Thanks for confirming you don't know what words mean.
>Slavery isn't unacceptable because I say so.
Ask any rational individual and they'll say slavery is unacceptable.
>XY isn't reference a lot as obvious to extrapolate from spending more than a day on the internet in any capacity
Yes
>Slavery isn't unacceptable because I say so.
Ask any rational individual and they'll say slavery is unacceptable.
>If I ignore the explanation tt doesn't exist
moron
>Slavery isn't unacceptable because I say so.
Ask any rational individual and they'll say slavery is unacceptable.
>It's both
Nope. Tif the moon was accessible there would be people there as we speak.
>Ask any rational individual and they'll say slavery is unacceptable.
I'm a rational individual and I'm saying it is acceptable.
>Yes
No
>Ask any rational individual and they'll say slavery is unacceptable.
I'm a rational individual and I'm saying it is acceptable.
>If I pretend the explanation exists then it does exist
moron
>Ask any rational individual and they'll say slavery is unacceptable.
I'm a rational individual and I'm saying it is acceptable.
>Nope
Yup. If the moon wasn't accessible we wouldn't have accessed it.
>I'm saying it is acceptable.
Therefore you're not being rational because that's false.
>No
Yes. Keep the shitflinging up anon, you're doing great so far,
>I'm saying it's acceptable
Therefore you're not being rational because that's false.
>If I pretend the explanation exists
I don't have to pretend. You're pretending because you refuse to scroll up.
>I'm saying it's acceptable
Therefore you're not being rational because that's false.
>If the moon wasn't accessible we wouldn't have accessed it.
Having been accessed doesn't make something accessible. Just like having been remembered doesn't make something memorable. Try again, ESL.
You lost
You won
Easiness and linearity absolutely do not determine good or bad design. As for your other argument, we are not here to prove or disprove anything as an universal truth, we are here to share opinions and bring arguments about our personal experience.
> Easiness and linearity absolutely do not determine good or bad design
Glad we agree
isn’t genwars.
And it isn't a genwar, you're entitled to your opinion, I'm not sure why that's so difficult to believe. I already agreed with you once
A normal human being wouldn't screech and take offense from the beginning, those of us who are functional would answer either that there are or that there aren't such routes and provide examples in agreement or in contradiction with OP. If OP had just said modern music is shit, then yes, that would have been a genwar, but right now your reaction to an open-ended conversation about how memorable the music in the games is to each of us makes me believe you're either on the spectrum, underage or socially inept.
I’m glad you agree
isn’t instigating a genwar.
it is because memorability doesn't determine good or bad music, but linearity and easiness to navigate is quite literally the bad way to make a Pokemon route. have a nice day, genwarcuck.
> but linearity and easiness to navigate is quite literally the bad way to make a Pokemon route
I can just as easily say making music forgettable is quite literally the bad way to make Pokemon music.
Except that wouldn't be true because a catchy tune isn't always the way to go. I happen to like classical music, which you quite literally cannot hum easily because there could be like fifteen separate supporting melodies at once. I still think a piece like that would be superior to the Pokemon title screen theme, but the Pokemon title screen theme is more memorable because of its simple catchy tune. Do you now see how memorability is completely independent to whether a piece of music is actually good?
> Except that wouldn't be true because a catchy tune isn't always the way to go
You’re badly attempting to move goalposts again. OP didn’t say catchy. He said “memorable” and “forgettable”.
Gee it's almost like he also mentioned hum-ability. Maybe I should have elaborated that catchy tunes help with memorability. I'm more likely to remember a pokemon tune than a movie soundtrack that's objectively better composed, for example. It being due to a more catchy and simple tune is just the specific reason this time, but it could be any reason if someone wanted to answer the OP's question. One anon mentioned leitmotifs as a possible solution, but I doubt you even know what those are.
>Gee it's almost like he also mentioned hum-ability
Gee, it’s almost like (You) also mentioned memorability which isn’t the same thing.
hum-ability contributes to memorability and is of the explanation that could explain the OP's question. Gens 6+ are more compositional with more going in so it might be harder to remember the base melody, let alone hum it.
No one is suggesting they're one and they same you moronic mongoloid.
> No one is suggesting they're one and they same
(You) did when you tried moving goalposts to humming when we’re talking about the music being memorable.
I never did that. I provided one possible way something can be more memorable without saying it's inherently of. higher quality. It's you conflating them.
>Is there any route in Gen V that isn’t utterly linear and easy?
Yes plenty.
Anyway, OP is right. Aside from tracks taken to Smash, most are pretty forgettable, while I can easily hear several tracks from the 2D games in my head.
>Is there any route in Gen V that isn’t utterly linear and easy?
Nope, there are none
Anyway, OP is a homosexual. There are plenty of Gen 6 and 7 tracks I can remember while I can’t remember a single theme from Gen 5.
area zero is the only post-gen 4 theme I can remember and I'll probably forget it in a few years
I think that's probably because games that nee have some fricked up leitmotifs carrying their tracks. Those get tiring before you finish the game so you don't hum them after, all while taking attention away from other melodies in the game.
>nee
new*, apologies
Anistar and Snowbelle's music in particular I remember more than the actual city.
Guess I'll post my favs from each of those
Anon we even had a worldwide meme with driftveil city like a month ago. Kek.
what's your point
BW music is that memorable.
Nvm I'm just a high moron who apparently has dyslexia. I read it as gen IV kek.
Its funny when you check archives for "Gen5+" you see lot of genwar posts from Unovakeks. Probably a big raid or something.
That wouldn't make sense. It's Kaloskeks lumping Unova into the newer gens.
Me, with Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon's OST:
Yes. They exist.
SM and SV have shittons of good tracks. Can't name more than 3 combined decent XY + SWSH tracks though
>POV you enter an autistic thread
>POV you enter an autistic thread
Early onset dementia thread
Kalos Route 4 lives in my soul.
>Bridge connecting to a tiny island with YET another bridge that connects to the main land
Wouldn't have been better if the CHARIZARD bridge connected directly to driftveil city?
Gen 6 is an outlier because, like the rest of the game, the music is absolute shit and completely forgettable. As everyone in the thread has already pointed out. However gen 7 and 8 have plently of good music. Gen 9s isnt my thing but it also has a lot of fans.
Gen 7 has some pretty good tunes, but it unfortunately lacks great music for the actual numbered routes outside of the fourth island which has 1 really nice theme (and also Vast Poni Canyon but that's not relevant, I just really like that track). There's some bangers in the soundtrack, but it's also a strong showing for Hitomi Sato and I just really like her work. Same reason Gen 5 is great for me and I listen to Nemona's battle themes despite actively avoiding SV. I also think some of it might be sound font choices, I dunno, Gen 6's soundfont is really boring while DPPt's seems a bit grating to me, even RSE borderline overuses the french horn sound even if it does give the region a musical identity. The actual compositions might be good, especially Gen 3, but what it's actually played on can change a lot.
Speaking of, I don't know much about music but it feels like Hitomi Sato has a specific motif she keeps bringing back but I can't describe it. Any actual music people get what I'm saying?
levincia is my jam
Interesting how you didn't reply to OP, who started the argument in the first place.. I wonder why that is.
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Post-game I would always save and turn my game off in Snowbelle when I was done because I loved the music so much.
Kalos has the best Pokecenter music. I don’t know what instrument that is, but it was very distinct from all of the previous iterations. Softer, more relaxed.
I don't think it's because the music got worse but rather a sizeable amount of us played less and less after Gen 4/5/6. Does that sound correct?
Other gens have some great stuff too, but gen IV had the best route themes overall because it's not all orchestral stuff
Kalos has Laverre
Alola has its main theme
Galar has the gym leader theme
Can't really think of anything from Paldea
Keep in mind that these are the ones I consider "memorable" not because *I* remember them, but because they were used so much across the franchise as a whole during their generations, such as the anime and promotional media, that it was basically impossible to follow the franchise at the time and NOT know those melodies.
Does Paldean have something like that?
Paldea used the last gym leader theme in its trailers a lot.
This one is deeply ingrained in my brain. Might be because of the anime, they played a remix of it as the general sad/somber theme.
Alola music felt great coming off of Kalos music and Paldea music felt great coming off of Galar music.
I've only played BW1&2 once and remember this theme very well.
>from Gen VI+
I've never played anything after ORAS so this is hard, but I guess there's that cave theme from Sworshiel that sounds like shitty terraria music.