I asked this not long ago. I bought the game and realized that I didn't have the time to play it for more than 30 minutes or so at a time every few days. I got it on sale for $20 on GOG so it's not too much of a problem for me and I probably will play it much more on a long weekend, but please make sure you actually have the time to invest in these kinds of games in the first place.
As an oldschool CRPG fan looking to use this game to get back into the genre, I experienced pretty much the exact same thing. It's not so much about the overall time investment from start to finish- I have no problem playing games over the course of months- but just the pace and all the mechanics. It's hard to jump in and out of.
I thing Dragon Age 1 and 2 are the best starting points
This game is tactics heavy. I enjoyed the sandbox for making a playground to muck about with the way abilities combo but the nothing else clicked for me.
It may have had to do with me playing it on iPad but I liked the portability, crossplay and save, and that I had MnK, Controller, and touch as input options
DO NOT START PLAYING CRPGS
ALSO NO
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY DO NOT FRICKING PLAY THEM, DO NOT TALK TO THE CRPGgayS ON THIS BOARD, GO BACK TO MINECRAFT NOW BEFORE ITS TOO LATE
I want to say no because the D:OS series plays more like puzzle games than conventional CRPGs
It's just all about doing the right kind of elemental or physical damage while trying to avoid the wrong kind
dragon age 3 is not better than da2
The only (only) good parts of da3 is the tresspasser and David Hayter DLCs because of the drama in tresspasser and the Dwarves getting magic and attention they hadn't gotten since the origin prologue of da1.
Da2 had an OK main story, a well made single city, and extremely memorable sidequests like managing your mine over the 3 acts, doing the deep roads red lyrium expedition, and the long setup for tension with the Kossith and the mage mission.
The character building is dead simple so yeah. Only thing you should know is that unlocking more useful skills by branching out with skillpoints is better than 10% damage increase. Take mobility skills on everyone. Lone Wolf is also a good idea since it makes it so you only have to equip two guys and the game kind of prioritizes having really strong characters vs team synergy since you can't reliably tank or anything.
The Black person is not going to know all that THAC0 and dual vs multi class autism.
THAC0 should be pretty easy to explain with modern game concepts. Sure being dice-based makes the distribution weird but the basic idea of "additive based accuracy system which means if you don't hit certain thresholds in either armor or accuracy you're fricked" shouldn't be a foreign concept.
And multi-classing is easy to explain: don't. You split your EXP between classes and all the good shit is at the higher end unless you're a mechanics-abusing tg autist.
I mean yeah it's not impossible to figure out but you're asking a new CRPG player to dig into wikis for a dead tabletop game's ruleset. I never liked the dual classing either because it so heavily relies on meta knowledge for the timing of when to swap. Multi-classing being a noob trap is also bad for beginners. >but you can just ignore it
Yes but it's always there in front of you so a new guy is going to be confused "oh should I do this?"
I've seen people say they liked BGII for the story and shit but then also say they just cheat because they couldn't figure that shit out. Most people don't want to do a day of research before starting the game. That's why I never played NW2. >hmm crit build seems fun >btw everything is undead
Basically I'm saying, the guy isn't a /tg/ autist. He's new.
I just feel like I was 12 and only had vague ideas of what the DnD concepts were from my older brother and things like "'+N = on your weapon very very good" and "don't multi-class, it's just there to punish people who can't commit" were enough to get me through. If anything, being tied to a deeper culture of game mechanics older than my father added to the appeal. Of course that doesn't work when you know they're all neckbeared virgins like yourself.
Newcomer to CRPGs here talking like I'm an expert
Play BG2 if u dont like it drop it
Play DAO as a mage or rogue if u dont like drop it (dont play warrior it fricking sucks)
Play DOS2 as a origin char either Fane or Ifan
Play BG3 (its the best one ive played)
Ignore the rest, play Planescape if u feel like reading a book max int and wis
I think the start is not very friendly to new players. There are only a few fights, and you are pretty exp starved for the first half of act 1. Its super easy to just find a fight that is way out of your league and have to restart, because the first 10 ish fights have a pretty rigid order of doing them. It also incentives you to just murderhobo the whole game and steal everything, which im not a huge fan of. I hope BG3 is a bit better in that aspect.
Yes
no
Yes
maybe
>reddit: original shit II
it's bad
it was the first one i ever played in full and i did 2 playthroughs so yes
have a nice day Black person
This gay likely never played it.
And if he did, still a gay for referencing shit like reddit.
Brain dead Black personhomosexual
no, start with fallout 1 and baldur's gate 1 and work your way up from there.
>starting with ISOslop
I asked this not long ago. I bought the game and realized that I didn't have the time to play it for more than 30 minutes or so at a time every few days. I got it on sale for $20 on GOG so it's not too much of a problem for me and I probably will play it much more on a long weekend, but please make sure you actually have the time to invest in these kinds of games in the first place.
As an oldschool CRPG fan looking to use this game to get back into the genre, I experienced pretty much the exact same thing. It's not so much about the overall time investment from start to finish- I have no problem playing games over the course of months- but just the pace and all the mechanics. It's hard to jump in and out of.
Yes, it's fun and easy to get into
Fantastic game, go play it.
I thing Dragon Age 1 and 2 are the best starting points
This game is tactics heavy. I enjoyed the sandbox for making a playground to muck about with the way abilities combo but the nothing else clicked for me.
It may have had to do with me playing it on iPad but I liked the portability, crossplay and save, and that I had MnK, Controller, and touch as input options
DO NOT START PLAYING CRPGS
ALSO NO
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY DO NOT FRICKING PLAY THEM, DO NOT TALK TO THE CRPGgayS ON THIS BOARD, GO BACK TO MINECRAFT NOW BEFORE ITS TOO LATE
I want to say no because the D:OS series plays more like puzzle games than conventional CRPGs
It's just all about doing the right kind of elemental or physical damage while trying to avoid the wrong kind
Just play BG2.
>PS:T
Visual novel, not an RPG
>ME2
Not an RPG
>ME
Not an RPG
>Cisquisition
Lmao at putting this above D tier
>SR:R
Tech demo, not a real game
Others are correctly placed
dragon age 3 is not better than da2
The only (only) good parts of da3 is the tresspasser and David Hayter DLCs because of the drama in tresspasser and the Dwarves getting magic and attention they hadn't gotten since the origin prologue of da1.
Da2 had an OK main story, a well made single city, and extremely memorable sidequests like managing your mine over the 3 acts, doing the deep roads red lyrium expedition, and the long setup for tension with the Kossith and the mage mission.
where is morrowing
>Dragon Age duo
>Dragon Age maximum homosexualry
>.webm related
Please no. Rest might stay.
The character building is dead simple so yeah. Only thing you should know is that unlocking more useful skills by branching out with skillpoints is better than 10% damage increase. Take mobility skills on everyone. Lone Wolf is also a good idea since it makes it so you only have to equip two guys and the game kind of prioritizes having really strong characters vs team synergy since you can't reliably tank or anything.
The Black person is not going to know all that THAC0 and dual vs multi class autism.
THAC0 should be pretty easy to explain with modern game concepts. Sure being dice-based makes the distribution weird but the basic idea of "additive based accuracy system which means if you don't hit certain thresholds in either armor or accuracy you're fricked" shouldn't be a foreign concept.
And multi-classing is easy to explain: don't. You split your EXP between classes and all the good shit is at the higher end unless you're a mechanics-abusing tg autist.
I mean yeah it's not impossible to figure out but you're asking a new CRPG player to dig into wikis for a dead tabletop game's ruleset. I never liked the dual classing either because it so heavily relies on meta knowledge for the timing of when to swap. Multi-classing being a noob trap is also bad for beginners.
>but you can just ignore it
Yes but it's always there in front of you so a new guy is going to be confused "oh should I do this?"
I've seen people say they liked BGII for the story and shit but then also say they just cheat because they couldn't figure that shit out. Most people don't want to do a day of research before starting the game. That's why I never played NW2.
>hmm crit build seems fun
>btw everything is undead
Basically I'm saying, the guy isn't a /tg/ autist. He's new.
I just feel like I was 12 and only had vague ideas of what the DnD concepts were from my older brother and things like "'+N = on your weapon very very good" and "don't multi-class, it's just there to punish people who can't commit" were enough to get me through. If anything, being tied to a deeper culture of game mechanics older than my father added to the appeal. Of course that doesn't work when you know they're all neckbeared virgins like yourself.
I very much enjoyed it as I don't even know the basic D&D rules.
Then I tried WotR and it was a disappointing jank.
Just try to not be a zoomer and play BG1.
Yes, I would also say Dragon Age Origins is also good for a beginner.
Start with KoTOR I and II.
Alternatively if you hate Star Wars, Baldurs Gate, Neverwinter Nights, or Dragon Age Origins are pretty good.
Ignore the morons who say you shouldn't use a wiki or guides because a lot of these games are old and do a bad job explaining mechanics.
Newcomer to CRPGs here talking like I'm an expert
Play BG2 if u dont like it drop it
Play DAO as a mage or rogue if u dont like drop it (dont play warrior it fricking sucks)
Play DOS2 as a origin char either Fane or Ifan
Play BG3 (its the best one ive played)
Ignore the rest, play Planescape if u feel like reading a book max int and wis
I think the start is not very friendly to new players. There are only a few fights, and you are pretty exp starved for the first half of act 1. Its super easy to just find a fight that is way out of your league and have to restart, because the first 10 ish fights have a pretty rigid order of doing them. It also incentives you to just murderhobo the whole game and steal everything, which im not a huge fan of. I hope BG3 is a bit better in that aspect.
How about the First one ?