I started playing Rom Saga 2 but there seems to be very little in game information on what exactly various skills do. Am I expected to either figure them out as I go along or should I use a guide to indicate which ones are useful?
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Is this game playable blind?
>Am I expected to either figure them out as I go along
Correct. On the other hand during battles the skills description has a marquee that scrolls by to read.
i didn't play much of it but from what i heard grinding will make the game harder
I played through it once and did not find that to be true. If you and your enemies both become stronger, your side is generally the one that benefits, because the other side won't exploit its new strength effectively thanks to its crappy AI.
Christ you lot must have no worries in life. Asking online I'm order to prep playing a videogame, as if you're going camping, planning for a mortgage or making any important life decision. Is this your biggest worry that you NEEDED to make a thread on it?
It's a videogame. Just play it. Don't look for my or anyone's approval.
Do you ask people on the street "can I walk here?"
Do you ask your partner mid-frick "do I still have consent?"
Do you ask the waiter "what should I order?"
Absolutely unfathomably pathetic. Stick to videogames, kid. Life comes at you fast. You could have your wiener in hand and your crush with her legs open wet as a seadog and you still wouldn't have the balls to frick.
>op just wants to know information about how a game works
>schizo rambling appears out of nowhere
wtf bro hope youre alright
Go get ‘em, tiger.
Meh. I was determining whether continuing playing it would be worth my time which from the sound of things, probably not. Apologies if that vexes you or whatever.
>Do you ask your partner mid-frick "do I still have consent?"
I do this.
>Do you ask your partner mid-frick "do I still have consent?"
Yes because I'm not a rapist.
Hello Officer
>Life comes at you fast. You could have your wiener in hand and your crush with her legs open wet as a seadog and you still wouldn't have the balls to frick.
excuse you?
>partner
Seethe
The boomers right, go for it instead of seeking out validation before you do.
>You could have your wiener in hand and your crush with her legs open wet as a seadog and you still wouldn't have the balls to frick.
this has quite literally happened to me on multiple occasions in my 35 years and I still preferred playing the videogame to the sex.
Back in the gamethese games had thibgs called "manuals".
Go read that online.
That's not happening unless they translated the JP manual.
>Is this game playable blind?
I don't think so.
Sure you can figure out where you are in the different menus because each button press makes a little sound, but figuring out where you are in towns, etc. is basically impossible.
You also won't be able to figure out which classes are offered to you for the next emperor.
medium funny
>pic is OP wearing his helmet
Anyway for how much this game is touted as being amazing, you'd think it'd be translated for SNES by now. Maybe chinkshit general could be useful for once and advocate for it.
The remaster put any translation into the grave. Not only that it's a SaGa game. It's not a popular series in the west regardless of how Japan views it.
I know, but still. It's not just a SaGa game but THE SaGa game.
It's an excellent game and the best RPG I've played from the SNES so far, but for me Minstrel Song is still head and shoulders above it. On the other hand I can see why such games like Romancing SaGa 2 and SaGa Frontier would be others top picks.
Don't hold your breath to ever see the Super Famicom version to ever get translated. If it does it'd be a welcomed surprise, but I've heard that it's difficult to translate because you can't simply inject English text into it since it can break the game doing so.
It's a challenging game and you'll probably end up looking up lots of stuff whenever you hit a wall. Make sure to level up your magics because you're gonna need those late game spells.
The game is playable blind. You will miss things but you're kinda supposed to since there's a lot of freedom in the game. More importantly, you might get stuck sometimes because you failed to trigger the right event or because you failed to notice some important basic mechanic. This is most likely to happen early on, when you're still learning how it all works. Maybe you'll get frustrated enough to need a guide briefly just to become unstuck, or maybe you'll never get stuck at all. I recommend aiming for a no-guide run. Then maybe you can look specific things up afterward in order to see more content, or just replay blindly again and try to take a different path, maybe search harder for optional stuff, etc.
It's not a super-difficult game or anything. It's just obtuse here and there. And it's good enough to be worth trying to play properly.
Yeah. I played it mostly blind and was fine. The few things I looked up either weren't important or were things I would've stumbled on anyway. For example, I looked up a couple times to confirm that I broke a questline rather than bashing my head against a wall not knowing how to complete it. This only happened a couple times (mermaid and Cumberland quests). Just explore carefully and talk to everybody, you'll be fine. Like said, you'll miss some things. But don't worry about that, you'll still be able to complete the game and it's more fun without knowing what's coming.
>mermaid and Cumberland quests
lol FRICK these and I had no idea how to continue into a new year to try and get some more locations to visit either. I was fricking around losing people left and right. I wish newgame+ let you carry over everything in your kingdom so I could recruit the guys I need instead of getting bear and mercenary and neo mercenary for most of the game.
I've played a few SaGa games, even managed to finish The Last Remnant. I don't understand why folks dig this style of game.
The entire premise of the series is obfuscation of information - especially mechanical information regarding classes, skill unlocks and the like.
That's the feeling I've come to. I like the basis of the SaGa system, quite enjoyed FF Legend 1 and 2 as well as the SaGa Frontiers and I genuinely like FF2. But these days I just don't have time to bother with the obfuscation.
You wouldn't get it.
It's better when a game doesn't need to rely on being obtuse to be part of the difficulty.
It isn't really obtuse. Most of the time putting on new armor that increases defense is better. Higher cost techniques frequently do more damage. Using a skill raises the effectiveness of it.
It's not a difficult game though. If you gave up on it and are now saying bitter things about how it wasn't any good anyway then... just play other games instead. Because it was, in fact, good, but so are those other games.
if you have basic observational skills you will be fine and will have a great time
I feel like I missed a lot of content on my playthrough of Romancing SaGa 2, either that or the game is really short.
You can't experience everything in the game. Some events like the volcano is either save the salamanders or let them die and get black magic. When you encounter the seven heroes might change their forms or with certain ones how they react to you. It's about playing your own story.
Started playing SaGa this year, my tips for these games are:
>go in blind, don't look up anything unless you find yourself well and truly stuck (unlikely)
>don't grind weak enemies, don't avoid enemies too much, just play through encounters normally
>talk to every npc multiple times
>explore as much as you can
>know that you WILL miss things and frick something up on your first playthrough, this is normal and also not a problem considering how replayable these games are
>don't ignore magic (especially for RS2)
>make it a priority to get a full party as early as you can
Many JRPGs are designed such that new players can get a 'perfect' run and not get a single game over at all. SaGa games are a bit different in that they expect you to fail at points and demand the player experiment at least a little. Just go with the flow and take things in stride, you will be completely fine.
>don't ignore magic (especially for RS2)
For anyone that's played Minstrel Song, what's some good magic to have from each school, specifically Cosmology, Terrology, and Demonology?
did you even read the post you're replying to?
>go in blind, don't look up anything unless you find yourself well and truly stuck (unlikely)
How does Minstrel Song compare to the other games in the series?
Minstrel Song is like a greatest hits in SaGa game mechanics from Romancing SaGa 2 - Unlimited Saga. Skill sparking was added, combo attacks, field skills, and so on. It's a phenomenal game.
asking these types of questions kind of poison the well because instead organically going through and experimenting with shit now you're preloaded with
>frick I need to make sure I cast light ball at least X more times shit lemme get into a few more encounters where's my sticky note where I've been counting magic casts
just go with the flow romsag2 is a sublime kamige. if you need a guide use some spoiler free light guides from gamefaqs in the 90s. it's a good ass game.
Play the remake
Don't fall for the remake bad meme, the SNES version is basically a cheap romhack of RS1
Also the secret boss was cool, you actually have to learn all those dodging tech before you hit the final emperor generation.
>the SNES version is basically a cheap romhack of RS1
No it wasn't.
Yes it was
You were expected to play this along with the other ONE MILLION PLAYERS that bought this game, sharing tips and secrets along the way, while maybe buying the latest issue of Famitsu that promoted the game's official strategy guide. It's okay to look things up. It's also okay to die a lot in this game. A LOT.
yes. now kill your thread. or else that 1000-words essay frickface will soon appear.
such an obnoxious homosexual.
Read the manual
There's some other under the hood things not mentioned anywhere so you won't have all the information for team comps but nothing that makes the make impossible.
The game comes with no manual of any kind which is part of the issue I have with it.
I like difficult games is the thing, I like old style rougelikes more than typical RPGs in general and it's what I've liked about the SaGa games I played and why I got this. My point was more I like a game like Etrian Odyssey which is pretty hard at points but transparent about the mechanics and the specifics of how your abilities and stuff work. Versus having to work that stuff out yourself through experimentation and obsevation. Not that the second is bad necessarily, it's more that I'm old and busy these days and trying to make the most out of the maybe half hour I have to play something a day.
That said, I've been picking away at it more and starting to dig it so we'll see.
To elaborate on this, a perfect example of what I'm talking about. I played some more, ran into a mimic/doppelganger which very nearly wiped my party, but I won by the skin of my teeth with one guy standing. Headed back to town because I needed to restore SP and MP and then noticed there's an LP stat that didn't restore. There is no manual and no in game info so I had to look up what life points are, how they work and that it won't be till late game may find anything to restore them with. The mechanic of life points is fine, but having to go to an out if game source to figure out what they are and how they work is irritating. Also for example, I know attacking with swords for example levels up swords and learns new skills. But does using those skills level them up? Or will using them level up sword proficiency either faster or slower? I had a guy with long swords learn parry and a guy with a greatsword learn deflect which have the same in game description. Are the skills the same, or do they vary in some way? Does using them more make them more effective (they seem to suck so far) or is that a waste?
To be clear I'm not necessarily looking to someone here to answer those questions, rather I consider that kind of information is the sort of thing the game should provide in some way.
RS2 has a manual just like every other game, and you're just making up questions that a neurotypical person wouldn't even worry about.
The Switch release has no manual. The questions I am asking are important for understanding how the game works and how to play it.
If you are playing the SFC original instead of the remaster, the remaster has a link to the manual on the Steam store page.
I have the Switch release. There's no manual at all.
No translation of the original game, no play
so im playing final fantasy legend I and I wanna know whats up with these muscle, agility, and hp200 items? are they infinite? random in how much they up your stats?
HP items are random (within a range), but you always want to get at least 15 HP. HP200 items are good up to 200 HP, after that they just give you +1 no matter what. (By then you'll be able to buy HP400, and later HP600 items)
I think Muscle and Agility are a set +3 but don't quote me on the exact number.
They're all only limited by what you can afford.
They all only work on humans, so espers and monsters are outta luck
all I needed to know and more, thanks for the help
also muscle and agility seem to be +2 because both times I used muscle to check if it varied my Str went from 8 to 10
Also, displayed stats go up to 99, but internally they go higher. So you can keep increasing your muscle and agility past 99, it just won't be displayed.
That said, it rolls over at 255, but I didn't need anywhere near that much to beat the game. So it's probably not worth worrying about that much
ok so theres these islands and cave system underneath them, however they dont seem to take me to any relevant island at all, did I somehow miss the one exit that takes me to the island id want to go to to progress or am I supposed to do something before this? not sure what magic of blue would be, do I just use the Sphere anytime these doors locked by magic of [color] appear?
on a side note, I had a lot of fun with my monster today, transformed into like 10 different things and his Str is already at 99, probably over that and with 666 hp, awesome
thanks! it's cool to know how these things actually work in the code
One of the islands has a smaller island that you can board and it moves around in the water.
I found it after making that post and felt dumb, thought for sure I tried interacting with all of them, when one of the npcs mentioned a moving island that was like a ship I thought id see a big patch of terrain moving around like the bigger islands, but would that even be possible to do on the gameboy?
>Is this game playable blind?
yes but it is very difficult. it is a kamige though. depending on the experience you want to have you could go in blind and stumble around. eventually you should use the newgame+ after you feel like you hit a brick wall. I would recommend using the newgame+ option at least 3 times before using a guide unless it just feels way too abstract for you to understand. I beat the game with a play time of 30 hours but boy did it feel like I played that game over the course of a decade. The fact that I finally got to play it with a western localization officially after I could have played it for 2 decades with fan translations felt cathartic and very cool. I actually do not care for the original SNES version due to the fog of war that occurs while running.