is this REALLY a necessary remake?
why can't nintendo make a new game instead?
they're basically reselling an old game at a higher cost than when it originally released.
is this REALLY a necessary remake? why can't nintendo make a new game instead?
just emulate it
This, who even cares only tendies will pay for it looooolz
Lower when you consider inflation.
yea gc games would probably be like 80-100 in todays money depending where you lived
ALL OF THE DAY BRO
Cost of living has become more expensive due to inflation
So, seems fair
>easy to do,
>it makes them money
>it doesnt hurt the brand
NOT doing this would be stupid
Remasters are the only way to get zoomers to play a game, so it's good they are remastering an actually good game this time. It's fricking sad that all they've had is Sticker Star slop for a decade
I think that Nintendo right now is trying to transition more into being a core focused company after the switch sold primarily to the core audience (young adults age 20-40). And I think they're using TTYD as a way to show that. It's one of their most core focused legacy games, with a serious story, incredible visuals, more interesting and unique characters/setting, more mature ideas, and it's even dripping in sexual undertones.
For a similar reason I'm also expecting them to make an OoT remake soon.
>I'm also expecting them to make an OoT remake soon
You mean the one that came out 13 years ago?
>trying to transition more into being a core focused company after the switch sold primarily to the core audience
What about their movies and theme park endeavors? It's going to be more than young adults
Most kids playing on Nintendo at this point have Nintendo fan parents, and those parents are most likely in that core demographic. It makes no sense to target the console at anyone but core gamers. Kids can deal with it, I played fricking Donkey Kong country when I was 7 I'm pretty sure 10 year olds can handle TTYD.
The Wii U was the core audience console. It sold to the 13M die hard Nintendo fans that will buy anything. The Switch was the console that sold to everyone.
Tanabe/modern IS doesn't have the capacity or talent to make a good one. Also Nintendo realizes that they have exhausted all goodwill with this series so why even bother trying something new? Just give the people what they want.
it's because gaycube games are expensive and the biggest nintendo youtubers like arlo, scott the wozz and nathaniel bandry are all gamecube trannies
Scott the Woz was a Wii baby, look at his childhood games list. The man played nothing but SpongeBob games until he was in high school and then barely played games after that, even to this day
Yeah Scott’s a fake gamer I don’t know why anyone watches his shit.
Scott likes to talk about video game history as if he was actually there at the time. He hasn't even played them either lol. Everything makes sense when you discover that he comes from a rich as frick family, as do many of these young YouTubers.
as someone who loves ttyd, I dont think it was necessary BUT I wouldnt miss a chance to dunk on tanabe's hack ass
Remember, for the last 12 years, we've had nothing but slop that ruined the Paper Mario name. This is more than a remake. This is a way to show Nintendo what we truly want out of Paper Mario.
Super Paper Mario (wii) was GOOD
Anon... Super Paper Mario was 17 years ago. He's referring to Sticker Star.
Good at being shit
TTYD was the last good original Mario RPG, period
No, Super Paper Mario is unironically pretty good. The last good PM, too.
SPM is a good paper mario spinoff and should have encapsulated what the 2nd half of the series should be, RPGs and neat experimental stuff both featuring unique characters and enemies.
I disagree. It is a boring slog of a game that fails both as a platformer and a role playing game. I enjoyed it when it came out but it is a very difficult game to replay now. The dialogue is funny and the music is great, but it's not good to actually play.
Nintendo listens to their fans. We want Vivian to be canonically trans. The remake is being developed solely for that purpose.
>mistransaltion turns girl charcater into trans
>everybody tries to force it into canon
>meanwhile birdo is canonically trans since the 90's way before being an alphabet homosexual was considered cool
>no one give a frick about her tho
its because she's ugly, isnt it? god do I hate left wing hypocrites
Don't they call Vivian a boy like ten times? I know I've seen the cope "it's just an insult" analysis, but everything seems pretty clear that she's a boy.
He's obviously a boy, but that doesn't mean he's a troony. The only context I have ever seen trannies in Japanese media is making fun of them for being deranged. Much more likely that he's supposed to be a trap, a cute boy dressing like a girl to get fricked by men.
Why would a non trans be insulted by being called his gender? the whole point is she wants to be a girl but he's a boy so they call her a boy
Because they're making fun of him for crossdressing, obviously? I am so sick of you frick deranged lunatics reading random characters as trannies with little to no basis. They're not a thing in Japan and certainly weren't 20 years ago.
>boy dresses as a girl but doesn't want to be called a girl
>insult the boy by calling him a boy
????
the only reason to insult her is if calling him a boy will hurt his feelings because she's not actually a girl
There's no indication whatsoever that Vivian thinks he is a girl. In fact, when his sister calls him a man he doesn't disagree with it. There is a massive difference between a cross dresser and a troony. A troony is a modern western cultural idea. It doesn't exist anywhere else. It's the mentally deranged notion that someone can actually become the opposite gender. Cross dressing is just a sexual fetish. Vivian wants to look and act like a woman, this is a fact. Vivian thinking he is a woman, is an opinion, with no real basis and it's very unlikely that it was the developers intention in Japan 20 years ago.
ok you're just a weirdo
trans exist, hating them is great but it's silly to pretend otherwise
There have always been men who dressed up as woman (gays). The idea that these men are actually women is a modern western notion.
Japan mocks western degeneracy.
We're so fricking tired of you troons gayging up every genre of subculture.
Japs love crossdressing wtf are you even talking about
Cross dressing is a fetish
Trannies are a mental illness
It's not the same
cross dressing is still openly mocked in japan
if you think anything otherwise you are a deluded troon
there are only 2 genders, its literally science.
(S)he's a trap. That's it. It's still very much a boy, just dresses as a girl. But I guess this is haram in current year.
She was only called it by her ugly evil sister to put her down
Vivian is attractive so trans people want her. Birdo is ugly and a joke so trans people don't want her
it's pretty simple
All the pro trans people I know like both characters.
honestly that's great to hear. Birdo doesn't deserve to be shit on because she's ugly as sin
Maybe ugly to you? more hug n suc for me then.
I'm glad this is getting remade, because it's genuinely one of the best games ever made and a lot of people are going to play it for the first time now and see that. TTYD has a cult fanbase, but it deserves more than that. It has some of the best visual design of any game. It has incredible music. The characters are so much fun, and have so much dialogue. Every single npc in the game has at least like 5 or 6 lines of dialogue throughout the game, Goombella has a tattle log for every single place and character. It's got a ton of content, real content not grinding like most JRPGs.
After this game it will be completely impossible to sell another sequel to sticker star.
Nintendo realized that when Origami King had absolutely no legs unlike every other Mario game during the Switch era, hence why they didn't give Tanabe another
Because they've put out dogshit for a decade and this is the last good game in the series. I fricking hope it sells well, but watch them put it out right at the time they announce Switch 2 or something and it gets fricked over like BIS. Though BIS was an unneeded remake so that failed more due to that.
I think it's going to release the same or similar time as the switch 2, intentionally, because I think it's gonna be cross gen. In fact, I'm confident it's gonna be cross gen because
A)The Switch version is half the framerate of the original
B) They changed the button colors to match the super famicon like 4 other games recently
They'll use it as a selling point for the new console with the switch version being 1080p30 and the switch 2 version being 4k(DLSS)60fps.
Origami King came out like 3 years ago
I hope bingtendo goes out of business
Launching the switch 2 this year, guaranteed to be a success so good luck with that
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/08/nintendo-switch-2-console-coming-in-2024-analysts-say.html
False, Darren "eric" Weathers, the shitch 2 will make the virtual boy look like a success story
LOL, bingtendo is bleeding money, they'll likely be bankrupt before they can release another shitchstain
Is this true tho?
Yeah Nintendo have been going bankrupt since N64.
Poorgay seethe
Yeah, poorgay tendies are seething that they can't afford a PS5 and are stuck with the shitch, LOL
New idea is hard and difficult to justify to your investors. Old idea is safe and very easy to explain to your investors.
Dunno how bad your brainrot has to be to actually want a NEW Paper Mario when they've made shit for years now. You can eat shit if you want, I'll have one of the best games ever made.
>See OP image
>thought Nintendo were stupid enough to make one of those 15 minute long game specific Direct videos for a fricking remake to a cube game
Bingtendo ARE that stupid, in fact, they're even MORE stupid
>the recent experimental paper marios have outsold the old turnbased ones by a lot yet people keep crying they want more turnbased ones, so we'll throw a remake of the most liked one their way to see if there's actually an audience for them
That's the reason why this remake exists.
Super Paper Mario was the only one to sell well and it still had many of the elements of the old Paper Mario games.
Except for CS, they did outsell the original 2, but that's just because of the wider install base of the DS and Switch.
Just wait for the PM64 remake homosexual
99% of modern video game companies are incapable of making games at the level of one’s in 2000
Costs less, takes less time, and tests the market viability for future projects.
dogwife===happy life
did they mention at all how theyre going to handle Vivian? This is one of those situations where they need to uncensor something
>is it really a necessary remake
480p 4:3 is unplayable by today standards
so yes
>but muh dolphin
I'm sure everyone loves broken widescreen and half assed texture packs that been in the making for over a decade
>Broken widescreen
>Half-assed texture packs
Works on my machine.
>doesn't even post the same game we're talking about
talk about disingenuous
dolphin gays pretend their meme emulator is perfect
but half the games have broken effects if you dare to try to run the game in anything but ant resolution
here's a 6 year old video of TTYD with a widescreen patch. Where's it broken?
why are you trying so hard to get me not to buy ttyd? its a game i like and no texture pack and widescreen pack will come anywhere close to a first party remaster. also i want them to make more good paper mario games so ill support the port. now kys
I plan on getting the remake to show support for Mario RPGS but I do feel some of TTYDs style and charm has been lost with aspects of the remake.
Not him, but Dolphin is very finicky and will work differently on every system. It's taken years and a lot of different settings changes but I've finally been able to get TTYD to run decently recently. It's still got issues though, emulation is never gonna be as good as running it on actual hardware. So I'm definitely not complaining about a much higher resolution version with new textures and lighting running natively.
I emulated TTYD to completion on Dolphin well over a decade ago and it had no issues that I could tell even back then.
>emulation is never gonna be as good as running it on actual hardware
For gamecube dolphin out of the box is already great and if you're willing to go further with the setup it becomes the definitive way to experience most of the library.
It's a difference in standards. Dolphin is a great emulator so the issues it has are usually relatively minor things, although on my current computer I had it crashing a lot for a while and it took some tweaking to fix that. But even minor issues in a game you truly love are annoying. This is my favorite game of all time. I want to play it in the best way possible, especially because I play this game a lot. Every year or two I'll come back to it. Whether the remake has enough value for you is a decision for you to make. But it has enough value for me and I'm going to buy it. So are millions of other people. I hope that doesn't cause you to screech and throw a tantrum like a 4 year old.
I dual boot linux for emulation and I can tell you straight up dolphin on linux with an input integrity adapter mogs original hardware, and I say this as someone with a fully loaded hacked wii and CRT sitting next to my 4k TV
You're fricking delusional. Any emulator introduces bugs, even Dolphin.
Which bugs have you personally run into?
Every emulated game I've ever run has had minor visual bugs at minimum and I've already told you about TTYD crashing repeatedly. Although I was able to fix that, there's no guarantee my next computer wont have similar issues, it's a real crapshoot.
idk what to say man, skill issue. None of the games I play have anything like you're describing. Obviously there are some games OG hardware is better on but to say that your toaster not handling dolphin in the year of our lord 2024 means it can't surpass a hacked wii is absurd.
When the frick did I say it cant run better than on a hacked Wii? I do currently emulate the game and that's because I don't want to play it on 480p. But the remake on switch is 1080p and I'm expecting the switch 2 version to be in even higher resolution. And I'd certainly prefer to play it natively without worrying about crashes or visual bugs.
Works on my machine and literally EVERY SINGLE TTYD YOUTUBER I'VE WATCHED. Hundreds of hours, maybe thousands without a single bug.
Dolphin TTYD is the definitive version. Not this moronic remake which will change things.
Okay so play the dolphin version, and I'll play the switch 2 version. Everyone is happy, everyone's having a good time. Why are you have an autistic meltdown here? Nobody's telling you to buy the game.
Buy the game if you want, sure. Don't spread misinformation about the state of emulation.
It's misinformation that I had bugs while I played the game? You think no one has ever had a bug while emulating this game? Because I would direct you to google if so.
You having bugs is possible. But the majority of people using Dolphin TTYD run into no bugs, and the minority who does only has small time bugs. Emulation goes a long way after all this time.
>But the majority of people using Dolphin TTYD run into no bugs,
Did you take a poll to confirm this?
Can I see your methodology?
What was the sample size?
Obviously not, I'm speaking from experiences. I've seen Dolphin TTYD run on dozens of systems, a few being mine.
I don't actually believe you've seen it run on "dozens of systems", but that's not representative anyway. Perhaps, for example, you're only seeing it run by people who have more powerful hardware or people who are very experienced with emulating the game and have found the perfect settings for their system. Surely you can understand that it's extremely fricking obnoxious for you to be speaking for the vast majority from such a limited perspective.
But you did as well. Let's be rational here, I ran it on 5 systems personally over the course of my life and watched >10 TTYD content creators. Dozens might be overstating it, but I think I'm autistic enough to have a decent idea that this shit runs well unless some Dolphin dev comes out of the woodwork and explains what I've missed.
Can you read?
I guess not? Your English seems kind of bad so maybe that's the issue here. In the post you're replying to I suggest that maybe you're only looking at people who are very experienced with emulating the game who have found the perfect settings and then your evidence to me is TTYD content creators. These are not normal users. They've probably spent hours testing every single possible setting to get the best possible performance on their system. These do not represent most players, or really almost any of the players.
Disparaging remarks aside, your post clearly demonstrates a lack of knowledge on the subject. You don't autistically fiddle with Dolphin settings. This is a PCSX2 thing or an RPCS3 thing where the wiki reflects that by giving recommended configurations per game. Not fricking Dolphin.
TTYD absolutely needs game specific settings. There are certain default settings that if you don't change the game runs horrendously if at all. The fact you don't know this tells me you have never actually emulated this game. What the frick is wrong with you?
It literally runs out of the box. Every. Single. Time.
You don't know about the bounding box issues and you claim to have emulated this game on 5 different systems. You're a fricking joke man.
Irrelevant for anyone not playing on a 2008 PC.
That's a dangerous remake
zoomers will finally know what a good paper mario looks like and realize they've been fed garbage for the past 12 years
It's not just about Paper Mario either. TTYD with modern graphics will clown on most of the switch library. This tells me they must be pretty confident in the games they're making for the switch 2. Because if you compare TTYD to stuff like Luigi's Mansion 3 or Yoshi's Crafted World it's still clearly a big step above, especially with modernized graphics.
They need to remake it to conform with the Mario Mandate.
The noose is still there, Goombella kisses Mario in the trailer, the mandate is dead gay get over it
I love TTYD, I still have my original copy (I own all 6 Paper Mario games, shamefully) and I play it once every couple of years.
I'm looking forward to this remaster. I will buy it day 1.
For starters, it just looks like a really polished and thoughtful remaster. I know people on Ganker are somewhat divided on the paper aesthetics being applied to TTYD, but I think it looks great. I'm also hopeful that they add some small content like they did with Super Mario RPG.
Secondly, I have a good amount of people in my life who have zero interest in emulation whatsoever, who love Paper Mario 64 but have never tried TTYD. So I'm happy that they'll have a chance to play it.
And thirdly, I like what the game represents as far as crusty old Nintendo. The Gamecube/GBA/DS days were this small era of experimentation and a lot of fresh ideas being brought to the platform. Paper Mario and TTYD, with their unique interpretation of the Mario world, was no exception. And for 20 years or so it seemed like Nintendo was doing everything they could to sweep all that uniqueness under the rug in lieu of New Super Mario Bros "brand cohesion". So I'm looking forward to this game coming back, hopefully being the best selling Paper Mario game ever, and setting the record straight once and for all.
Yes, and they should remake Paper Mario 64 next. I'm hoping the game does very well and upper management takes the series away from Tanabe's filthy hands.
They would be stupid not to remake Paper Mario 64 since they can reuse a lot of the assets, the lighting and the engine. They could probably finish it with a small team in 2 years.
They should take some notes from TTYD64 if they're going to remake 64 after TTYD.
>remaster bad
I hope it sells incredibly well so Nintendo finally understands that people like their Paper Marios to be good RPGs and then they finally make a new one afterwards.
Anything that might lead to the creation of a proper TTYD sequel is necessary as far as I am concernd.
ahh yes
just as the remakes of M&L SSS and BIS lead to a sequel
Difference being you could still play the original games for both of those on the platform they made the remakes for
This is pretty obviously a filler game to release on the current successful system as a safety net just in case their next system doesn't take off too smoothly, like how the 3DS was still getting games even with the Switch coming, but you could really tell they were short budgeted and not given too much manpower to not take away from the Switch's library too much. Notice we don't even have a release date for this game at all, when we do for Luigi's Mansion 2 (another pretty obvious filler release), which is coming in fricking Summer.
We don't have a release date because it's going to be cross gen. They'll announce the date the same time they announce the date for their next console.
I don't get why people say this, it's a cheap remake. What would the point be in making this cross gen? Also I think this game isn't going to even sell well anyway, and will sell less than the SMRPG remake
TTYD is an absolutely beloved game and one that still holds up today. The launch period is very critical and a 4k version of TTYD would absolutely drive hype and push consoles. It also works really well with the timing because they will want one last holiday title for the switch and TTYD being a remake of a GC game can run on the switch.
even if emulation is perfect it still feels like work to get the game going compared to just playing on the switch
excuse me if stupid but... why didn't they remake paper mario 1 before paper mario 2? they just skipped right from smrpg to ttyd
It's already perfect an there's nothing they can do to make it better.
ttyd was a direct upgrade to 64, why would they do 64?
Because the generation who grew up with Gamecube are in their phase where they're new to having disposable income and are the most exploitable right now. That and they already have an N64 service to play the first Paper Mario on, while they refuse to make one for Gamecube games for the aformentioned reason.
>Because the generation who grew up with Gamecube are in their phase where they're new to having disposable income
Not really no. The gamecube kids range from age ~25-33. It's the Wii kids who are just now getting a disposable income.
still applies really, the wii could play gc games and sold a lot more
Same reason Lilo & Stitch is getting a remake and a started getting a frickton of merch made two Christmases ago. Same reason they went back and finished Samurai Jack. Same reason the new Puss in Boots movie had more hype then the first one. Same Reason the Raimi Spider-Man cast were called in to draw all the dimes for Marvel. What said.
The stories aren't connected and TTYD is better so they're putting that one out first to hook people. A lot of people will probably not even realize TTYD is a remake because it feels like a modern game.
A) PM64 has been released on every console since the Wii in some capacity, while TTYD has never seen a re-release
B) Nintendo's current philosophy seems to be the line between N64 and GCN is where they can charge full price for things. Ocarina of Time, Super Mario 64, Paper Mario? Throw em on the NSO. Metroid Prime, Pikmin 1 and 2, Super Mario Sunshine (sort of), Paper Mario TTYD? Full priced release, physical copies, the whole 9 yards.
but I agree the whole thing does feel extremely unlike Nintendo.
PMario 64 is available on switch right now while TYD isn't.
PM64 is on NSO, meanwhile they can charge 60 bucks for a Gamecube re-release running in an emulator with a weekend's worth of work
64 is already on NSO, and has a much more concrete artyle(also, its completely sprites)
They chose TTYD because every single criticism of the last 3 Paper Mario games almost certainly brought up TTYD. So now they're going to see how much this remake sells, and then based the next PM game off it or not.
they can't they lost their talent and soul, paper mario is dead regardless, going off their other shit
Stop having faith in Nutendo. PM is dead. Let it die instead of believing its corpse will suddenly revive it.
There is no such thing as a necessary remake. Ever.
So what changes will be made to the game itself? After playing the SMRPG remake, I can say that it is the superior game for its improvements, just the fact that the sprinting speed is the default speed now makes it better in my eyes.
Captcha: RPGSNA
Pianta Parlor will have gambling references removed. Does the lottery count as gambling? Wouldn't count on a Luigi mode or less backtracking.
I will fricking hate the changes they will make. And they WILL make moronic changes
>Luigi mode
God, that would be so kino. Even just like a quick 5 hour romp. Sucks that Lugi has been so cucked in most of the RPGs other than M&L and SPM.
Anyone else a bit worried that it's gonna be TOO faithful and won't have much QoL improvements over the original? If they leave TTYD's original inventory and item storage system untouched it's going to feel jarring after how SMRPG improved its respective game's.
Because they have made three (four if feel unkind to Super) Paper Mario games since this one, and they all sucked. So yeah, at this point, I rather them to get back to what works, and teach the new generation what a good Paper Mario actually looks like.
idk I'm buying it
It'll still be the best thing the franchise has gotten in years.
>Is X really necessary?
Strictly speaking, your survival isn't necessary either homosexual.
I hope the game has a new superboss that can fought after Bonetail. You don't even really get a good opportunity to try return postage once you get it.
>is this REALLY a necessary remake?
yes and no. they needed to rerelease it in some form and the only way they could justify charging full price for it is if they remade it. an hd rerelease similar to pikmin 1&2 would have sufficed but maybe they can make more money this way and train their staff how to make good paper marios again.
>why can't nintendo make a new game instead?
the last three times they tried making a new paper mario the results were disappointing. I would still prefer a new game but I hope they make the best of this situation.
Hmm, maybe it's a way to judge interest in a dead series? How moronic are you
It's a lose-lose situation.
Either you go with this and wank off the OG PM austists giving them more ammo to b***h off or make Sticker Star 4 and piss off the Mandate autists.
Either way, it's just a filler product to pad out the Switch's dying days.
Oh you revisionist homosexuals who came in with this "LE OLD PM FAN JUST AS BAD AS NEW PM GAME" narrative with Origami King can frick right off.
Sticker Star gays are very good at gaslighting
Whatever you say Chugga.
>only 1.6m views in 3 months
Why did it flop?
Nintendo is 90% remakes these days, just look at TOTK.
Remasters are unironically okay when Nintendo does it because they actually care about the og content. Look at Square Enix remasters being an opposite example, being the shit company that they are.
Nintendo, like many game companies, know people are morons and will rebuy games they've already played at full price, whether it's because of graphics shit or portability. It's the morons that are the problem, Nintendo is just playing it smart.
Why not rebuy an updated game that you know you like over a typical aaa game that is a typical scam?
Why spend money at all in that situation? The original is right there, and it's perfectly fine.
>over a typical aaa game that is a typical scam?
As you willingly scam yourself by paying full price for an experience you've already had with minimal additions and changes.
How bad is the soundtrack going to be castrated?
Sounds fine so far.
>Bowser Rematch theme
>Smorg theme
>Shadow Queen theme
Can't fricking wait.
It's a good remake because I can just emulate it for free. Thank you, Nintendo.
Remakes are only justified if
A)A significant amount of new content is added
2)The game was unbalanced and the Remake changed the balance to be fair
D)It offers a completely different experience to the orignal/includes the original with it
It's another cheap cashgrab. tendies buy this by the millions.
https://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-paper-mario-ttyd-hd-texture-pack-v2-3-october-17th-2023