What happens when you shit in the hole? It looks like the shit would go on the ground so then you'd fill up the hole really fast and then you'd have to pick the shit up with your hands and throw it away. What's the point?
I imagine they'd do it manually. Tip over the outhouse, get a bunch of long-armed scoops and a noseplug, and scoop it into a wagon to haul it to whatever farm needs fertilizer. You wouldn't get a total clean like you would with modern tools like a pressure washer or a vacuum, but it'd work well enough.
>spend all day eating pork, drinking wine >take a fat dump >get to hear it bounce down the walls ending with a satisfying SPLAT >know some pleeb is grateful for more manure to put on his crops (that he eats lmao)
truly we are the savages
>be king/queen >go on epic tour with your court to visit churches, palaces and residences >royal houses are very pleasing to the eye. the problem? the fricking stench. >people were bunched up like sardines in living, partying, meetings, sleeping >leftover food would be discarded. dishes left out in the open. >cooks gotta cook and hundreds of people need to eat. the smoke from the fire would stain and blacken hallway walls with soot. >didn't bother washing their clothes or their bodies for long periods of time >beds would be filled to the brim with lice >people shat anywhere they could - behind doors, hallways, stairs, fireplaces. animals contributed to the chaos. >huge mounds of scat would be found by the cleaning crew after the royals departed >imagethesmell.woodcut >women would pull their skirts and piss on the spot. men would pull their pecker and piss on the side. >and pissed, too, in the royal garden. to deter anyone, put up X marks in problematic spots. >they use it as an aiming spot. for fricksakes. >ordered to piss in vats so it can be used as cleaning supply. i guess water was in short supply or something. >wasnt until 19th century when cleanliness become a mainstay. >maybe we arent the savages after all...
up top that would smell so fricking bad
It would also be so fricking cold
and the guy working down below gets shit splattering over his clothes if someone is using it while he's raking
Worst part when we where spending Christmas at my grandparents cottage (no electricity at all) was going to the outhouse in the middle of the night when it was -10c outside and sitting on the ice cold bakelite seat. Hell of cosy otherwise with a stove in each of the 5 rooms and my family and all the relatives in sleeping bags all over the floors. I miss those days
this needs to end up in an assassin's creed game just so there's a video game where i can climb through a rain of shit and piss to stab someone in the ass
My wife's Dad still had outhouses when he was young. They would dig a deep hole and shit in it for 8-10 years, then dig a new one a little further away and fill in the old one. By the time you got back to the old location it would just be dirt and you could restart.
As a fellow Zoomer you’ve got to be kidding me anon, seriously you’re making our generation look dumb as frick. What you think plumbing has always existed?
Shit and piss were very useful materials. Just from the top of my head, you can use it in the leather industry, dyes and most importantly, gunpowder, and lets not forget about fertilization. I doubt anyone would let shit pile up.
I was just watching a Townsends video about how washerwomen from the 17th and 18th century would specifically collect night piss from people's houses and let it sit out for a week before using it on nice clothes. Apparently it makes a great bootleg ammonia to get stains out. People wildly underestimate just how resourceful people from history were.
That is by product of people not having to do anything with their hands anymore thanks to global economy and industrialization.
That also, I suspect, were we get all those ancient aliens build the piramids and other similar bullshit.
>I thought the romans invented plumbing like a thousand years ago
Yes, and then the world ended in 476 AD, throwing the whole world in 1000 years of post-apocalyptic survival known as the Dark Ages, where most of the technology and progress made by the Romans were largely lost and unknown.
are you moronic ? they were burning that "knowledge" down because its a "sin". It was sandBlack folk and their libraries that ironically saved the white mens knowledge
That never happened. They hide some things away because they thought it was heretical but they also acknowledged that gods plan was greater then human brains. So things that may seem heretical today may actually be divine knowledge they are misinterpreting. Thus everything needed to be recorded and safe guarded.
Noooooo you can't say that about my precious cuckstianity aaaa you heretic! I'll have you know raping little boys and burning books is an important tradition for white people
i'll take "shit that never happened" for 1000. catholic monks preserved all they could from the roman empire, but it was hard when the whole thing fricking burned down. you're conflating the burning of the library of alexandria which was done before jesus was even born
>the people who monopolized and controlled knowledge to prevent others from having access to it were the only ones in a position to save it
wow really, any other dazzling insights?
No I just forgot to type have because I'm busy doing something else.
Now frick off back to whatever social media children browse nowaday you clueless child before I call your mom and tell her you're browsing Ganker.
um akshually there was a large continuity between the late roman empire and the germanic kingdoms in terms of administration, religion, and culture
the thing that changed was that everything got a lot more regionalized; so resources and rule became local
you can argue that this was actually better for the common people, as instead of them being taxed with grain to send to some far away province, they could instead sell the grain to said provinces -- thats also why trade flourished in some ways
considering the Germanic kings, basically all of them relied on local roman administration to collect taxes and the like
the kings also quickly adopted the Latin language and roman religion (christianity)
there's a really good book about this caleld "the inheritance of Rome" by C. Wickham
The Romans needed plumbing because they had tens of thousands of people living together in a small area. In medieval Bohemia, why would you invest in a whole plumbing network when you can essentially shit in the woods for free with no drawbacks?
Plumbing requires an entire industry, you had clay factories that only did special reinforced clay pipes to be used in plumbing and heated flooring fixtures.
Medieval "countries" just didn't have that, even the nobles shat in a bucket.
>yes the fricking Romans had fricking heated floors right up to the 5th century so they could fricking walk butt naked at home in the winter
reminder that arguing that because certain roman villa had underfloor heating and that rome had a sewer so therefore everyone in the roman empire lived like that is the same as saying that black slaves in the american south lived in plantation houses and ate grapes of the vine
I checked this series out at the library so many fricking times. Lots of books about tanks and aircraft too. There's a bunch of cool stuff on Youtube these days I guess but man the library could be so comfy. Our biggest one was four stories and you could have fun exploring it and not even reading.
Romans lost that shit themselves, after they've been subverted by israelites and flooded by barbarians. The holy roman empire was far more advanced than the romans in all fields.
>I thought the romans invented plumbing like a thousand years ago
It's called the dark ages. It's what happens when you give women rights and let your society devolve into degeneracy. It takes 900 years of going without technology to fix.
>ITT everybody talking about European Medieval waste management
Other places existed between 500-1500AD
Here's how the Aztec did it
>Fleet of civil servents who allegedly washed buildings and swept roads on a daily basis >Said officials also collected waste from public toilets to reuse as fertilizers and dyes >Bathing in steam bathes was done on a almost daily basis even for commoners and traditional bathing was apparently even more common; some conquistadors thought smallpox was from them bathing so much >Socially unacceptable for anybody but royalty and the elderly to go unshaven, down to individual hairs being plucked >People were expected to wash their hands, face, teeth, and sweep before and after every single meal multiple times a day >cleanilness is the single highest mortal virtue mentioned in sources about their ethics, some reconstructed models of aztec cosmological metaphysics literally has dirt, a lack of order, etc acting as a sort of supernatural cosmic entropy that would end the world (which sacrifices counter) >Huge corpus of pharmaceutical products for soaps, shampoos, body lotions, breath freshners and toothpastes, actually one of a few premodern societies to do preventative rather then just corrective dentistry >Some aqueducts like pic related had switching mechanisms so one side could be cleaned as the other ran >Structures were built using aromatic woods and with gardens in and around spaces to bring sweet smells, people would even carry flowers around on top of all the body products I just mentioned >Even architecture was designed to not have doors, to have large open courtyards in palaces/civic structures to ward off miasma, palaces and other structures in turn were placed around large open plazas and gardens >not taking care of your home, surrounding land plot, etc could result in it being seized from you, similar ecological carelessness could be punished by death, allegedly littering too (tho I can't find a source for that last bit)
We have no idea about the original humans skin color. Saying we were all brown once is just internalized racism. You assume brown skin is archaic, old and primitive.
Which it is
And yet they couldn't figure out how to use the wheel in practical applications (toys don't count). Curious.
Also the celts used soaps for bathing and shaving since before 4th century bc.
A castle was a lord's private residence and he was personally in charge of all aspects of the security so I'd imagine it depends on the castle but you're probably not getting within arm's reach of the lord of the manor without getting dogpiled by men at arms
When I was a kid, we'd frequently do family vacations in the Ozarks on land my grandpa owned. There was only an outhouse, which always caused full on panic attacks to use because wasps liked to build nests in it and I have a crippling fear of them.
Romans had pipes but they weren’t pressurized like modern plumbing. They were just redirecting naturally flowing water. Good for bathing, not so good for shitting.
Roman "plumbing" was rudimentary. They didn't have pressurized pipes, just aquaducts and shit.
Getting water precisely where you wanted it was difficult. Hence the communal toilets.
And even in the modern day outhouses and similar toilets are fairly commonplace. Although we're much better at containing and disposing of the shit with tanks and septic systems.
>Is this really how medieval people took a shit?
Only nobles.
zoomies literally don't know anything unless it's posted in a 10 sec meme format on tiktok
Millenitards literally literally say literally like literally all the time.
fr?
Yeah, for real.
And morons who can only communicate through meme speak shit and piss themselves in an aspie fit whenever others use a basic vocabulary.
Guess that's pretty "cringe" of ya bro.
Literally? Did you mean that as in just literally or literally literally? Literally? Like literally?
Toilets have been commonplace for over a hundred years
You don't say? They really had toilets in the 1920's?
designated
I still do my shit this way. Theres a hole, what more do you need ?
>what more do you need
Warm seat during winter at least.
What happens when you shit in the hole? It looks like the shit would go on the ground so then you'd fill up the hole really fast and then you'd have to pick the shit up with your hands and throw it away. What's the point?
The servants would clean it up and use it on the fields.
You dig a deep whole underneath. Shit is natural so it gets decomposed overtime. But ideally you clean it once a year
How would you clean something like that with the tools they had?
I imagine they'd do it manually. Tip over the outhouse, get a bunch of long-armed scoops and a noseplug, and scoop it into a wagon to haul it to whatever farm needs fertilizer. You wouldn't get a total clean like you would with modern tools like a pressure washer or a vacuum, but it'd work well enough.
It's on the side of a castle, huge drop into the cliffside..
some castles had it drop into a river
It won't fill up anytime soon, just hope nobody gets any funny ideas
It was a privilege to get the shit from the castle. It was used as fertilizer after it was composted.
Fertilizer was very precious
Didn't they realize disease spread through human fertilizer by this period?
no scientists among peasantry
No flush required when you have gravity.
me on the left
Good choice. Night soil goes for a lot of cash.
You'll be eating good.
Me on the top left.
Ganker janny in the bottom left
You're still getting paid more than imageboard jannies.
2 shillings per tonn is not that fricking bad holy shit. 2.5 tonns gives you a whole year of cottage rental
>literal medieval shit cleaners made more money than Ganker jannies
cant make this shit up
>spend all day eating pork, drinking wine
>take a fat dump
>get to hear it bounce down the walls ending with a satisfying SPLAT
>know some pleeb is grateful for more manure to put on his crops (that he eats lmao)
truly we are the savages
>be king/queen
>go on epic tour with your court to visit churches, palaces and residences
>royal houses are very pleasing to the eye. the problem? the fricking stench.
>people were bunched up like sardines in living, partying, meetings, sleeping
>leftover food would be discarded. dishes left out in the open.
>cooks gotta cook and hundreds of people need to eat. the smoke from the fire would stain and blacken hallway walls with soot.
>didn't bother washing their clothes or their bodies for long periods of time
>beds would be filled to the brim with lice
>people shat anywhere they could - behind doors, hallways, stairs, fireplaces. animals contributed to the chaos.
>huge mounds of scat would be found by the cleaning crew after the royals departed
>imagethesmell.woodcut
>women would pull their skirts and piss on the spot. men would pull their pecker and piss on the side.
>and pissed, too, in the royal garden. to deter anyone, put up X marks in problematic spots.
>they use it as an aiming spot. for fricksakes.
>ordered to piss in vats so it can be used as cleaning supply. i guess water was in short supply or something.
>wasnt until 19th century when cleanliness become a mainstay.
>maybe we arent the savages after all...
Honestly looks like you could take a great shit. So fricking peaceful.
up top that would smell so fricking bad
It would also be so fricking cold
and the guy working down below gets shit splattering over his clothes if someone is using it while he's raking
Worst part when we where spending Christmas at my grandparents cottage (no electricity at all) was going to the outhouse in the middle of the night when it was -10c outside and sitting on the ice cold bakelite seat. Hell of cosy otherwise with a stove in each of the 5 rooms and my family and all the relatives in sleeping bags all over the floors. I miss those days
>Being the ASSassin that had to climb the shit tower to get at a royal
One of the pre norman english kings died from a guy climbing up one and stabbing him in the ass
this needs to end up in an assassin's creed game just so there's a video game where i can climb through a rain of shit and piss to stab someone in the ass
My wife's Dad still had outhouses when he was young. They would dig a deep hole and shit in it for 8-10 years, then dig a new one a little further away and fill in the old one. By the time you got back to the old location it would just be dirt and you could restart.
As a fellow Zoomer you’ve got to be kidding me anon, seriously you’re making our generation look dumb as frick. What you think plumbing has always existed?
This is why communism is not possible
you just keep shitting and leave it in place and over time it develops into an extra layer of defense around the castle
>NAHAHA, YOU'LL NEVER BREACH MY IMPENETRABLE CESS CITADEL
throw some lye or lime on it
Are you mentally moronic?
You fill the rest with dirt and dig 5 meters away the next hole. The cabin can be moved by 2 people.
Shit and piss were very useful materials. Just from the top of my head, you can use it in the leather industry, dyes and most importantly, gunpowder, and lets not forget about fertilization. I doubt anyone would let shit pile up.
I was just watching a Townsends video about how washerwomen from the 17th and 18th century would specifically collect night piss from people's houses and let it sit out for a week before using it on nice clothes. Apparently it makes a great bootleg ammonia to get stains out. People wildly underestimate just how resourceful people from history were.
That is by product of people not having to do anything with their hands anymore thanks to global economy and industrialization.
That also, I suspect, were we get all those ancient aliens build the piramids and other similar bullshit.
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not if you were a peasant or serf
This is still normal in russia outside moscow and st petersburg
>I thought the romans invented plumbing like a thousand years ago
Yes, and then the world ended in 476 AD, throwing the whole world in 1000 years of post-apocalyptic survival known as the Dark Ages, where most of the technology and progress made by the Romans were largely lost and unknown.
Whites are getting extinct in the west. New dark ages will be here before you know it.
Thanks Christianity!
They were the only ones safeguarding the last crumbles of knowledge.
Dumbass.
are you moronic ? they were burning that "knowledge" down because its a "sin". It was sandBlack folk and their libraries that ironically saved the white mens knowledge
>they were burning that "knowledge" down because its a "sin"
Lmfao who the frick taught you that?
Was I magically teleported to 2008 reddit? Wtf is this shit.
google Isidore of Seville
>sandBlack folk and their libraries
the ones that mongolians destroyed? lmao
>they were burning that "knowledge" down because its a "sin".
proof?
Jesus Christ what the frick are they teaching in school now that people are this fricking stupid.
>what the frick are they teaching in school now
anti-christian sentiments
That never happened. They hide some things away because they thought it was heretical but they also acknowledged that gods plan was greater then human brains. So things that may seem heretical today may actually be divine knowledge they are misinterpreting. Thus everything needed to be recorded and safe guarded.
Noooooo you can't say that about my precious cuckstianity aaaa you heretic! I'll have you know raping little boys and burning books is an important tradition for white people
No, raping little boys and girls is a Rabbinic tradition. Nice try, Moshe.
i'll take "shit that never happened" for 1000. catholic monks preserved all they could from the roman empire, but it was hard when the whole thing fricking burned down. you're conflating the burning of the library of alexandria which was done before jesus was even born
>the people who monopolized and controlled knowledge to prevent others from having access to it were the only ones in a position to save it
wow really, any other dazzling insights?
>monks in the middle of nowhere
>monopolized knowledge
This is what moronation looks like, ladies and gentlemen.
Just to think that we could have been exploring the universe and have trans rights right now if it werent for those Christian chuds
*sigh*
>the world ended in 476 AD, throwing the whole world in 1000 years of post-apocalyptic survival
huh, i never thought about it like that.....
Imagine just how uneducated and plain moronic you'd have to be to believe that.
Silence, amerigolem.
Your father should beaten you for being this moronic.
Oh nvm, you're an ESL.
Be quiet, subhuman.
No I just forgot to type have because I'm busy doing something else.
Now frick off back to whatever social media children browse nowaday you clueless child before I call your mom and tell her you're browsing Ganker.
Yeah you were busy smoking wieners alright.
no that was ur mum las night pal
Yet their technology was more advanced than ever
Kys
Eat shit, homosexuals.
What kind of a subhuman education did you moron have to believe such nonsense?
Was your history teacher the tv?
Amerimutts really can't understand irony nor semantics.
>Hurr durr I was ironigging on the internet
>means sarcasm
Open your veins and let the idiocy flow out.
You're fricking moronic.
Like actually legitimately moronic.
Stop posting and go touch grass.
You are gay.
chill buddy
dark ages ended in like 800
...no?
moron alert?
all right it ended in 768 when Charlemagne became king and shit got back on track
um akshually there was a large continuity between the late roman empire and the germanic kingdoms in terms of administration, religion, and culture
the thing that changed was that everything got a lot more regionalized; so resources and rule became local
you can argue that this was actually better for the common people, as instead of them being taxed with grain to send to some far away province, they could instead sell the grain to said provinces -- thats also why trade flourished in some ways
considering the Germanic kings, basically all of them relied on local roman administration to collect taxes and the like
the kings also quickly adopted the Latin language and roman religion (christianity)
there's a really good book about this caleld "the inheritance of Rome" by C. Wickham
The Romans needed plumbing because they had tens of thousands of people living together in a small area. In medieval Bohemia, why would you invest in a whole plumbing network when you can essentially shit in the woods for free with no drawbacks?
Why do you think that because the Romans had something it means everyone else did, too?
Plumbing requires an entire industry, you had clay factories that only did special reinforced clay pipes to be used in plumbing and heated flooring fixtures.
Medieval "countries" just didn't have that, even the nobles shat in a bucket.
>yes the fricking Romans had fricking heated floors right up to the 5th century so they could fricking walk butt naked at home in the winter
reminder that arguing that because certain roman villa had underfloor heating and that rome had a sewer so therefore everyone in the roman empire lived like that is the same as saying that black slaves in the american south lived in plantation houses and ate grapes of the vine
>live in a periferic area of the empire
>some archeo digging in a remote area
>they found a merchant's villa
>it had heated floors
Upper middle class people did have plumbing and heating, medieval Counts slept on straw mats and shat in buckets
>medieval Counts slept on straw mats and shat in buckets
apart from the gross generalisation, how do you think provincial houses handled waste? do you think some villa out in iberia had running water?
the progression of a nation should be measured by how its average person lived, not the extreme minority at the very top.
Curious because the example i made was about Conimbriga, a middle of nowhere small city in Iberia.
90% of all villages in eastern europe still have an outhouse.
now that i think about it, why doesn't henry feel the urge to piss and take a shit like he needs to eat?
immersion ruined...
I've been hit with the sudden realization that children don't really read books anymore
I like his book on ships
I checked this series out at the library so many fricking times. Lots of books about tanks and aircraft too. There's a bunch of cool stuff on Youtube these days I guess but man the library could be so comfy. Our biggest one was four stories and you could have fun exploring it and not even reading.
Angloids and Germoids don't even have bidets today.
Absolute savage beasts.
>he enjoys having water shot up his butthole
homosexual.
You can thank religion for destroying roman writing about plumbing and concrete during dark ages
Romans lost that shit themselves, after they've been subverted by israelites and flooded by barbarians. The holy roman empire was far more advanced than the romans in all fields.
Yes and israelites used Semitic religions to turn romans into doomer cucks and destroy them
That's funny because you sound just like a doomer cuck
>I thought the romans invented plumbing like a thousand years ago
It's called the dark ages. It's what happens when you give women rights and let your society devolve into degeneracy. It takes 900 years of going without technology to fix.
>this whole thread
zoomers really are completely brain dead, my god
>ITT everybody talking about European Medieval waste management
Other places existed between 500-1500AD
Here's how the Aztec did it
>Fleet of civil servents who allegedly washed buildings and swept roads on a daily basis
>Said officials also collected waste from public toilets to reuse as fertilizers and dyes
>Bathing in steam bathes was done on a almost daily basis even for commoners and traditional bathing was apparently even more common; some conquistadors thought smallpox was from them bathing so much
>Socially unacceptable for anybody but royalty and the elderly to go unshaven, down to individual hairs being plucked
>People were expected to wash their hands, face, teeth, and sweep before and after every single meal multiple times a day
>cleanilness is the single highest mortal virtue mentioned in sources about their ethics, some reconstructed models of aztec cosmological metaphysics literally has dirt, a lack of order, etc acting as a sort of supernatural cosmic entropy that would end the world (which sacrifices counter)
>Huge corpus of pharmaceutical products for soaps, shampoos, body lotions, breath freshners and toothpastes, actually one of a few premodern societies to do preventative rather then just corrective dentistry
>Some aqueducts like pic related had switching mechanisms so one side could be cleaned as the other ran
>Structures were built using aromatic woods and with gardens in and around spaces to bring sweet smells, people would even carry flowers around on top of all the body products I just mentioned
>Even architecture was designed to not have doors, to have large open courtyards in palaces/civic structures to ward off miasma, palaces and other structures in turn were placed around large open plazas and gardens
>not taking care of your home, surrounding land plot, etc could result in it being seized from you, similar ecological carelessness could be punished by death, allegedly littering too (tho I can't find a source for that last bit)
Aztec Empire would be Wakanda right now if it weren't for Cortes.
Yeah I'm sure this is all real. I'm sure that nobody revisioned it.
>brown people can’t do anything
Shut up brainlet we were all brown once.
>we
idk about you but i was born with fair skin
>brown people can’t do anything
Correct. Good to see that you finally understand the point and agree with it.
we were black
anon.. white people are born that way, it's not just that we can afford more skin whitener than your family
We have no idea about the original humans skin color. Saying we were all brown once is just internalized racism. You assume brown skin is archaic, old and primitive.
Which it is
What seems to be the problem?
And yet they couldn't figure out how to use the wheel in practical applications (toys don't count). Curious.
Also the celts used soaps for bathing and shaving since before 4th century bc.
Such is life. Greeks figured out the steam engine at year zero but didn't find any use for it. Check out Herons Engine if you want to know more.
Imagine the pocahontas
how about pussy hair
>meanwhile in 2023 people barely wash their hands and the little routine they had after a pandemic soon went away afterwards
I wonder how easy it would be to walk into a medieval castle and stab the c**t in charge compared to today
Most guys were manlets back then. That said, here also hard, strong c**ts.
were also*
A castle was a lord's private residence and he was personally in charge of all aspects of the security so I'd imagine it depends on the castle but you're probably not getting within arm's reach of the lord of the manor without getting dogpiled by men at arms
When I was a kid, we'd frequently do family vacations in the Ozarks on land my grandpa owned. There was only an outhouse, which always caused full on panic attacks to use because wasps liked to build nests in it and I have a crippling fear of them.
>Is this really how medieval people took a shit?
some villages still use this where I live
What if you are taking a shit an an enemy archer shoots at the hole?
No it's a israeli myth to make europeans look like barbarians.
Fun fact at people got stabbed to death in the butt by an assassins while using those
>exploding_gamer_chair.jpg
that doesn't sound very fun
Romans had pipes but they weren’t pressurized like modern plumbing. They were just redirecting naturally flowing water. Good for bathing, not so good for shitting.
Roman "plumbing" was rudimentary. They didn't have pressurized pipes, just aquaducts and shit.
Getting water precisely where you wanted it was difficult. Hence the communal toilets.
And even in the modern day outhouses and similar toilets are fairly commonplace. Although we're much better at containing and disposing of the shit with tanks and septic systems.
It was lost technology after the Germans attacked and fricked everything up.