Is this really what the future holds in store for humanity? Simple foods becoming synthetic slop?
Is this really what the future holds in store for humanity? Simple foods becoming synthetic slop?
Is this really what the future holds in store for humanity? Simple foods becoming synthetic slop?
Starslop
What's wrong with synth meat if it's 100% identical to a piece of animal meat to even an atomic level?
The implication for any dystopia is that either common animals are extinct which means most animals are or that the rich/elite get the real food while everyone else eats garbage.
What about the implication that we just know how to make perfect meat without killing animals so we just do?
>when the meatwall becomes self aware and starts crying out in anguish
It doesn't need a brain, so it can't become self aware. It doesn't need a mouth, so it can't cry out. It's even less objectionable than growing plants, because it's never really 'alive'.
Theres nothing to be gained from that. You either work with the bare minimum or profit. Its profitable to kill billions of animals for food or give people cheap synthetic food or bugs while making meat a luxury item for the 1%. I doubt Starfield will touch on any of this and the synthetic meat is just there because Bethesda thinks like a child, which is making things quirky and futuristic. Like Fallout having a gun that launches nukes in a franchise that preaches the dangers of nuclear warfare.
>bethesda thinks like a child
>thinks bugs are a more realistic outcome
I miss "IT'S HAPPENING" /misc/, "you vill eat ze bugs" /misc/ is boring
It's profitable to kill billions of kids for food, too. I don't see many people eating the homeless.
It's unnatural there must be something wrong with it compared to real meat we've been eating since the dawn of time
deranged
What about the implication that the meat is synthesized from animals that were extinct long before humans did livestock shit?
Pretty sure Asimov wrote a story about that.
Wouldn't that be actually great? That for sure has to be a superior game meat
Yeah but synthetictard OP likes to ignore this because it goes against his autism.
>or that the rich/elite get the real food while everyone else eats garbage.
>He doesn't know
OH NO NO NO.
>100% identical
>only restores 3 hp
Good luck digesting raw fricking meat let alone bite it off out of the package.
Gotta grill is first.
cooking mechanics confirmed?
There's crafting, and if we can buy raw meat(and collect it from dead animals) then I'm sure we'll be able to make our own food.
>+6 HP
>120s +10% bonus to morale
>"We want the boomer audience"
>not wanting to grill on the desolate snow planet you named "Jizztopia"
So like cheese, carrots and every uncooked ingredient in Skyrim?
>its 100% identical! we can make perfect meat!
because that isnt how it works, thats just marketing lies. The flavor of meat, as well as its nutritional content, its texture, and so on are the result of factors you cant account for when printing out 'meat protiens'. Fat deposits and marbling are the result of the animal's lifestyle, and different cuts are the result of taking pieces from different parts of the animal. There's a reason faux meat products always come in the same forms of 'hamburger, sausage, or preessed patty or breaded and fried'. They cant do the things they say they can, and they never will be able to. Its' all a marketing gimmick you get you to accept the concept of fake meat, to consume fake meat, all the while they string you along with a 'well maybe later it will get better, just wait 2 weeks and trust the plan'.
the implication is that power is so centralized that even food production has been taken out of the hands of the common person and you are forced to eat processed slop. And the slop comes in different tiers to force a hierarchy in class, which is then used to mold society. Poor people get nutrient weak food so they stay weak and stupid, rich people get real food so they can grow to their genetic potential. Thats why its dystopian and not utopian.
you cant trust big corporations not to cut corners, or screw the lower classes over... so why would you trust them monopolizing your food supply?
i can see you're REALLY PASSIONATE about, uhh, lab-grown meat
>talking about spaceage synthmeat
>compares it to contemporary technology and issues
moron
>you cant trust big corporations not to cut corners, or screw the lower classes over... so why would you trust them monopolizing your food supply?
Yes Anon, I'm sure you raise your own cattle and don't buy meat from cattle raised by huge corporations that could feed their animals stuff you're not aware of
>There's a reason faux meat products always come in the same forms of 'hamburger, sausage, or preessed patty or breaded and fried'.
This anon gets it. Faux meat is no different than the meat they put in homosexuals. Pure waste meat that's no good for anything and doesn't taste good at all unless it's thrown in a blender with flavorings to mask you're eating offcut garbage.
>Faux meat is no different than the meat they put in homosexuals
We cannibal now
always have been,
The average Crowder fan.
Assuming that, because something isn't good enough right now, it never will be is a shortsighted mindset. Many everyday things we have now would have been considered impossible by people in the past. It's especially weird to choose that specific thing to draw the line on. Consider how impossible someone a hundred years ago would have thought lab grown meat was. Honestly, do you think that it's a bigger leap from having no artificial meat to having it or from having artificial meat that sucks to having some that doesn't?
He's choosing that specific thing to draw the line on because it's roughly adjacent to impossible/vegan garbage and it's making him assblasted as a result. There's no other reason. His brain has been fully raped by the 'culture war'.
Actual npcs here.
there's nothing more moronic than the "things always improve with time" mentality
On average it's factually correct though. In this day and age the possibility of your town going and getting raided by a warband of vikings is near zero. Your internet speeds are significantly faster. Your phone is no longer tethered to your house. Your likelihood of dying to polio, tuberculosis, or smallpox are virtually nonexistant. The big thing that gets worse with time is your propensity for boredom. Ages ago you wouldn't have the time to get bored because your days are too busy going from point A to point B to do manual labor C.
Absolutely nothing, and only ethicsgays have qualms about it. What's the ethical quandary about synthetic meat?
>The big thing that gets worse with time is your propensity for boredom.
That and I'm paying significantly more to live than a medieval peasant did.
But you're not. If a peasant were unable to pay their tithe odds are thats the end of that peasant. I seriously doubt there's any property out here where a landlord is legally allowed to kill you for missing rent.
>the cost is higher
>actually its not because your landlord can't kill you
lol
There's no price higher than your own life.
If your paleolithic ancestors were given the capacity to speak English they would praise human accomplishments.
They would cry about trannies non stop
Thats just you.
High IQ post wasted on the average Ganker poster. Real life corporations TODAY slipped horse meat into cottage pies because it saved them pennies per product. You guys really think a corporation with a stranglehold on a galactic food supply is going to go to the expense of synthesizing the molecules that make grass fed cow fat taste better than American corn-finished shite? It's nothing but wonderbread and textured vegetable protein unless you take a stand in the age of space exploration.
Most Ganker users eat nuggets and wear cargo shorts though, so you'll all get what you fricking deserve.
>High IQ post
>Proceeds to apply logistical issues and problems faced on a single planet where we have no interstellar travel to a society which has both those things.
While we're at it, let's discuss how grist mill issues from 1700 apply to 2023 america. Oh wait, that's fricking moronic, and so are you, Black person.
Galactohomosexual corporations will cut every corner possible. The synth meat will be shit. The upper classes will eat sub par American beef like the upper classes today eat wagyu. Racism is against the rules by the way
>Galactohomosexual corporations will cut every corner possible
What is it so difficult about mixing water + nitrogen compounds + trace chemicals that they have to add ACME Growth Poison XXXX to the mix?
Yes there are general patterns in the socioeconomic behaviors of humans that can also be applied to space faring civilizations. Your moronic example just shows that you are unable to think abstractly.
You mean "that a human might think can also be applied". We literally have met zero space faring civilizations to use as a factual reference point. Everything else is just guesswork with a human bias because that's how we'd do things.
Not him but your post is substantiated on the idea that creating good product will always be harder than creating bad product and just dumping a shitload of chemicals in there.
What if instead of just growing vegetable waste and flavouring it, it was the future and they were able to grow meat? What if instead of mixing in 100 different chemicals to vaguely approximate meat, it was the future and they were able to mix up a few barrels of the handful of compounds that actually make up meat in a matter that formed meat?
It would be a different story if you were commenting just on socioeconomic behaviour instead of only being able to parse 31st century, theoretical science through 21st century understanding
A smart post on Ganker that gets bombarded by shitposting. Yep its Tuesday.
>the implication is that power is so centralized that even food production has been taken out of the hands of the common person and you are forced to eat processed slop
This is a sci-fi setting where easy FTL is available for the common moron to use, you could buy your own ship and then travel 5,000 light years away from earth to set up your own colony where you can live however you want.
The only reason people would buy synthetic meat in a setting like that it’s because the stuff has become more cheap and convenient than raising farm animals inside the ship.
You can't have easy available FTL ships for everyone and dystopia in the same setting, how the frick would the government keep control of the population when everyone who dislikes paying taxes can just frick off to the other side of the galaxy?
because studies will say that it's 100% identical and the government will only subsidize the new synthetic meat now because it's cheaper. But oh what a surprise, it turns out 10 years later that it's not 100% identical and you were eating poison the whole time. Oh gee
So it would be exactly like right now where they already put tons of cancerous ingredients in the food they sell at groceries stores?
You think you know what atomic level means but don't
>What's wrong with synth meat if it's 100% identical to a piece of animal meat to even an atomic level?
The answer being they lied to you about that and it causes cancer because lmao getting some random flesh cells to reproduce into contiguous meat is
Guess what
Cancer.
Because it's never quite 100%, or if it is... it's because it isn't synthetic.
We live in a world of equivalent exchange: nothing is given that isn't taken from somewhere else. Something doesn't come from nothing, which begs the question: what the frick is in that meat?
motherfricker how do you think biology works?
its all chemicals.
Oh, in that case let's all eat dirt.
And drink Sodium Hydroxide.
And brush our teeth with charcoal.
What's the worst that could happen, it's all chemicals right?
>And brush our teeth with charcoal.
pretty good bait m8
And eat poisonous mushrooms you can find in nature. See how dumb you sound?
lol how are you trying to invalidate my point there
There's zero difference between a synthetic diamond and a real one.
also diamonds value is hilariously inflated to get people to buy them.
diamonds are borderline worthless and extremely common.
What's your definition of a synthetic diamond
What's wrong with eating human meat if it's 98% similar to pork to even a genetic level?
item flavor text is so comfy
"Compare to Equipped"
Does that means we are going to be able to actually hold items in the character's hands?!
they probably just haven't coded in the part where that menu item is reserved for weapons/armor
>flavor text
heh
Specially in a future where humanity has become a multi-planetary species.
You gotta be able to pump up the production of proteins as efficiently as possible, be thankful they're still emulating a delight instead of giving you drinking powders
Funny how OP seethes over synth steak and doesnt even see kino alien meat right at the top kek
I hope theres some mod where we have to collect the gibs via physics in the game world and not loot "Alien meat x2" from a menu
stop calling everthying -slop, it's doing something to your brain. Eventually every wordslop you hearlop and readslop will have haveslop -slop in itslop
>slop
>memespeak
Good way to get saged and forgotten by everyone here.
I'm pro in vitro meat, but frick fake meat.
Lab grown real meat is the future.
FRICK they still have shitty inventory UI?
This is where you'll live in the future. For free, no rent. You also get a free supply of synthetic meat, insect protein, and wienerroach milk. Some of you lucky few will be selected to travel to Mars to colonize it for the government. The rest of you will be back on Earth creating AIs for large corporations who sponsor your life so you get to live for free. This us what utopia looks like.
Pretty clean.
Realistically, would a society like this actually work?
No.
It could with a water tight control system and no way to leave the planet. It would be an absolute slaughter come wartime though. Pirates and any decently organized raiding force will run a train on these rat cages.
Of course it would.
Frick being part of that society though. Be some insane brainwashing going on at that point. We're heading there, but it's still a ways off. Doomposters think it's tomorrow, but the human spirit isn't extinguished yet. Not even close.
>free food
>free bed to sleep in
>free job by government
>AI does the hard work for society
>virtual world has every fantasy you could possibly dream of
Name a single thing wrong with this that isn't a chud argument.
>bugs for food
>assigned bed changes based on your work pod location
>"free job"
what the frick even is this?
>AI does hard work
So what's the job?
>Government approved VR
I could extend the list, but I'll just address the shit you posted.
Sounds disgusting.
nta, but
>assigned bed changes based on your work pod location
Who said? And if they're all the same the only thing that matters is whatever personal effects you own. And if you spend all your day in VR all your shit comes with you anyway.
>so what's the job
It said in OP, creating AIs for large corps. Probably training them to be human like, or making sure they're not damaging anything once they start going.
what's the point?
Considering we literally have dogshit """AI""" already running around the net creating art and music, I'd say something went horribly wrong in this
>computers will make the world better
idea.
Synthetic shits were supposed to be doing my taxes, not drawing my waifu.
They'll stop drawing your waifu when the novelty wears off unless your waifu is a corporate trademark or something.
Then you can actually get art that's made by real artists with time to work on their art instead of corporate drones or exhausted hobbyists after their wageslaving is done for the day.
lmao you think I'm going to pay an artist some asinine amount of money when my AI will do it for free?
You don't have to, but most people tend to value art more when it's made by real people. If you're just jacking off, I imagine AI images would be okay, but with so much more free time, there would also be an explosion of real artists drawing whatever degenerate fetishes you want, anyway
>ou don't have to, but most people tend to value art more when it's made by real people
its been proven time and time again that a sufficiently trained AI can produce images indistinguishable from those made by a human artist.
The only people pissy about this fact are twitter artists who have realized they can't live off of commissions any more.
I completely agree with you, but it's less about the quality and more about whatever intangible thing people value in art. Real artists aren't safe because they're better in a technical sense, but because they make real art rather than commercial illustrations. Commercial artists would be out of a job, but so will 95% of people.
>its been proven time and time again that a sufficiently trained AI can produce images indistinguishable from those made by a human artist.
How comes I can tell every single time when someone posts AI slop
The amount of poisons you currently consume is staggering. Synthetic meat might be a step up in all honesty.
Synthetic food also appears in utopias as well and may even be part of the reason for those settings being utopian.
Yes, solving scarcity would probably lead to a utopia.
Yes but we can't have good things so Anons will just tell you that Star Trek is leftist commie garbage or something
Any universe where Q exists is not a utopia.
Can't wait for replicators.
I wonder if they can be programmed to make healthy food that tastes good like junk food, or if it's just a law of the universe that the delicious flavors of junk food cannot be combined with nutritious elements.
>that poor bastard who has to run clean up duty every time someone has been in the simulation room
>simulation room
It's called a holodeck, you fricking kligger.
>kligger
lel
What did you call me?!
>they let these boneheads post on Ganker nowdays
This board has fallen
OP BTFO
>fiction utopia is achievable gaiz!
Funny how westerncuck's will discard their realist autism when it suits them
Globohomosexual already trying to feed you with food made of the insects.
Looks yum.
Add some spaceketchup and we're talking.
No. In reality it would be protein powder.
Steak is not practical, let alone lab grown meat.
>oh no, lab-grown meat in a sci-fi setting
what sort of fragility is this
It already is in America at least
Unlimited chicken wings
OP gets tunnel vision for synthetic meat when there's Trilo Bites, obviously a play on the Trilobite, a literal bug
>console UI
ugh
>video game meat causing the average /misc/tard to break down into tears
>future
should somebody tell him?
Excellent, alien jerky. Hope you can actually harvest and cook meat from various aliens and build up a larder that way.
Why do chuds have such a problem with this? It's the same shit eating cows or pigs. Why care so much about eating those specific animals over any other animals?
Why are you throwing an incel tantrum about "chuds"?
>ask question about food
>cries about chuds
Why are you like this?
Imagine being a grown man simping for chuds
I have no problems with synthmeat, mainly because actual synthmeat will exist in an era where money doesn't exist (post scarcity) and there'd be no reason to cut corners. The idea of "ccheaper to produce" woudln't even factor in.
I hope the loading screens aren't TOO fast
watching objects spin in Skyrim was when I'd actually appreciate them
Future?
>He doesn't enjoy a bit of bagged gore for supper
>55% less plastic
isnt that just dog food?
Even dogs get more meat than whats in that atrocity.
So what's in it?
it's just room-temp ground beef, same shit you find in a normal american supermarket
ground meat of any kind turns into weird slop at room temperature and allowed to settle
What the frick
imagine slipping your dick into that
Synthetic meat is an unsustainable meme and it's not even "meat" so much as it is "the cells that make up some of meat".
Yes. You been living under a rock?
Well, you know, there's not much room aboard a spaceship to raise farm animals.
Why are zoomers like this?
Do you know even how todays meet is made?
Bet you wouldn't be able to kill and process and animal yourself.
>here's why synthetic meat in games is problematic and Not Okay
cheers Ganker
I think the implication is the meat is cloned. So it's real meat, but it didn't come from a living sentient creature
>Have my organic homegrown alien meat from my ranch colony on planet A6-5
Lmao enjoy your synthmeat gays
I'm extremely curious about building your own habitat and recruiting people to work around it, wonder what are going to be the benefits for building settlements instead of bringing it with you on your ship.
>recruiting people
>people
kek
What? is yours going to be purely automated? or you talking about slavery?
I don't like companions, I'll be happy to dump them on my buggalo ranch
To be fair, how else are you going to get steak on every other planet humanity goes to? Are you gonna make cow farms on every world?
Counter observation to my own point, how is this synth meat gonna be on every world, unless they can make it on the individual level? Is there gonna be interplanetary food delivery? It seems weird that different world will all have the same brands of food across them all, implying constant supply lines and food deliveries across the galaxy when it would be easier for each planet to have its own ecosystem?
I will order them from Earth.
Assuming we find planets that can sustain our biology we terraform and grow things that grow on Earth. Any other sapients we kill off. We do that now, entire rainforests get mowed down for farms and suburbs. Do you know how much of the USA was forests and swamps before we collectively said “frick all of that?”
Nowadays we cry about literally not being able to produce lumber long and wide enough to sustain all the cultural buildings because all the old-growth forests have been chopped down
Except here on earth we did a little of column A (introducing the shit we like and grew up around) and little of column B (taking the stuff in the new place to see if it's something we can grow up around) with regards to "terraforming". For example, you'd have to be an idiot to think no American ever ate buffalo because their British great grandpappy never even knew what the frick a buffalo is over in jolly old England.
Interstellar logistics will handle it.
There will be agriworlds where cows are grown in quantities enough to feed entire planets.
Plus they can just fast travel.
Like it's weird that people have questions like these when the answer becomes really obvious when you don't have to answer questions like
>How do we fit all these farms when Africa and China exist
Is maintaining cow world and delivering it's product all over the galaxy more efficient than building meat labs on the planets that have human populations?
If you have a good logistical network it might work since you can have entire worlds specialized in their respective roles like a manufacturing or commerce planet. The costs will start going up if the shipments run late or get attacked by pirategays. Also rampant famine when the entire show collapses on itself.
Imagine a planet that consist of purely steppe landscapes with endless pastures for livestock to roam around. A whole Planet farm.
Yes, things will keep getting worse.
I saw an old man at McDonalds this morning get pissed off and walk out because they had no eggs due to a bad storm here that knocked out power for like two days, and most places had to throw their eggs, and milk. They had everything else for breakfast, just no eggs, and that completely ruined it for him.
>maccas
>real eggs
lol
lmao
It's powdered eggs, but a lot of people don't give a frick. Go back to Ganker
Old people make it really fricking hard to be respectful to.
>Power outage
>No fridge
>Have to throw out eggs
Americans lmao
>had to tell somebody what happened
>didn't have a bowl of eggs ready
No wonder he was mad.
yeah thats kinda the point of cyberpunk moron
>you WILL eat the slaughtered animals
>you WILL not reduce your environmental impact
>people with more resources CANNOT spend it on expensive things I can't afford
>you WILL NOT start a business I don't like
>you WILL read my 600 word schizo ramblings
>you WILL have sex with me and only me
this is Ganker now
This was always Ganker, newbie.
Shouldn't you be posting pictures of John Oliver somewhere?