Is this the best MMO in the market right now. I downloaded it 2 weeks ago and already lvl52. Progression is easy but it feels like a single player.
Is this the best MMO in the market right now. I downloaded it 2 weeks ago and already lvl52.
Is this the best MMO in the market right now. I downloaded it 2 weeks ago and already lvl52. Progression is easy but it feels like a single player.
I play lost ark
lost ark is better
have a nice day or atleast leave this board for enjoying genuine garbage.
ya seethe
Come 1v1 me in Lost Ark, b***h.
>unironically playing pvp in that game
You are so far gone anon.
The combat is the best part about the game, killing waves of dummies is not exactly challenging.
Dodging projectiles or colored tiles on the floor is not exactly challenging.
PvP is where it's at.
Then play a proper pvp game moron. You have broken shit like mage and db which didnt even get nerfed. The devs dont give a shit about the mode
wait till you hit 60 lmao
not an mmo
How is it not a mmo?
He probably thinks that an MMO needs to be open world without loading screens between zones.
Progression is easy in every korean MMO until you hit a certain point. From there on you can barely make any progress without paying up or you can start another character to go through the easy grind again if you haven't learned your lesson yet.
>"progression"
>"market"
Soon you'll make couple of posts about the future and how NFTs are essential to it. Aren't you?
The best mmo was swg, everything after doesn't count
If someone literally made SWG with the same exact gameplay just with updated graphics and animations I would no-life it in a heartbeat.
Same with everquest, same exact gameplay and feel but with much better visuals and character customization, literally all I need to lose the rest of my life living in a virtual world.
EverQuest Next was in development. Sony had finally decided to put money into it again. They made Landmark so that players could figure out the creation tools and possibly make additions to the game. We were almost there... And then Sony sold SOE off to Daybreak, the homosexuals that run that company said they played it and it wasn't fun, and then everything was cancelled. EQ Next NEVER EVER. Landmark SHUT DOWN. Dev studio GONE. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR TIME AGAIN, EQ BROS. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR TIME.
aren't a bunch of former everquest devs making ashes of creation
No - a bunch of former EQ Next developers are making Ashes of Creation. In other words, a bunch of devs who have never released a game are making another game that has yet to release. I was initially interested to see what they could do, but the fact that most of their promotional material is based off of how many garbage mounts and outfits you can buy in their cash shop.. eugh. Frick 'em. My last hope for MMOs is Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen. Brad may be dead, but they may stick to his vision.
>I was initially interested to see what they could do, but the fact that most of their promotional material is based off of how many garbage mounts and outfits you can buy in their cash shop
I 100% lost hope in that game after they started to pander streamers and joined their streams and sucked them off
I'm happy that I stopped caring long before I saw that. Pantheon has done a couple of pre-alpha events where they've let streamers play to help crowdfund the game, but nothing egregious.
I really do miss EQ era mmorpgs, they were massive open worlds with freedom that made you feel part of it and want to live in it.
I hop on P99 every other month but man I want that same gameplay and world with actual character customization that's all EQ is missing to be my final GOAT before I die.
>open worlds with freedom
will never happen again thanks to streamers, youtubers and dataminers minmaxing everything and shitting out metas and spoilers, leaving anyone actually wanting to enjoy themselves in the dust.
P99 does fine the issue is no one is trying to create actual mmorpgs anymore and too many devs bend the knee to whiny mentally ill homosexuals who want body type body type 1 homosexual lingo in their games and a "single player" experience.
It's great until you hit the wall on AP and find yourself on the treadmill. After that, the game starts treating you like a caged animal, expecting you to buy boosts and stay logged in 24/7.
You're still a ways off from that, though.
>expecting you to buy boosts
What boosts? Are you seriously suggesting that a 50% exp increase makes any difference when we have events right now giving 1000% boosts?
Level doesn't matter after 62. If by boosts he means selling costumes for silver I'd understand him though.
After they doubled the silver you could get from p2w the price of most end game equipment increased by almost 50%.
Yeah I know you can p2w with costume selling....even if it's extremely inefficient.
The only real "boost" I can think of is buying the tent to be able to use the villa buff all the time, but that is a one time purchase.
The Kama and Book buffs are so fricking useless it's not even funny. Value pack is only good for selling on the marketplace which you can also easily do as f2p with enough patience and to get all dyes.
Well this is untrue. Kama is great for lifeskilling and old moon books are qol for not needing a villa pass.
Also value packs give inventory and storage space as well as a lower tax on mp.
Do you even play this game?
>old moon books are qol for not needing a villa pass.
Oh no I have to spend 5 minutes buying a pass every week!
Thanks for confirming that the buffs are close to useless?
5 mins and 10 mil for every character you wanna use it on. I grind and lifeskill on most of my characters and they're almost never in maid range of each other.
So, no. They're not useless. Would I buy one? Also no, but it's not useless.
>I grind and lifeskill on most of my characters and they're almost never in maid range of each other.
Why do you make up obvious made up scenarios?
>Is this the best MMO in the market right now.
Sadly it is, only reason I keep playing it is because there is nothing better on the market.
Just wish the devs would not be so fricking moronic and make some actual good changes for once
Like the qol updates, and rebalancing elvia and valencia?
Yea I wish we got those too. Oh wait...
at least there is equalized pvp arenas so you can only p2w on siege, rbf, and open world
this the best MMO in the market right now
It is pretty good, buy to play and no pay to win. I didn't buy the last expansion though, I am done giving them money, they are pushing their LGBTP agenda way too hard, gay marriage is literally referenced in the introduction to the expansion. Frick them and their troony devs, hope they starve
For pvp yeah. Nice animations and great responsiveness of abilities.
p2w grindy garbage
cool game tho
Game is garbage but it's still significantly better than any other mmos out
Best game so far in terms of mmo unless you weant to wait for Bellatores to come out.
>updated added a lot of new features and stuff for the photo mode
>your character still does random emotes while standing still
>they still sometimes turn into Black folk on certain camera angles
No. Once you get to endgame your progress is completely RNG gated. It becomes nothing more than a pachinko slot machine.
barbarian chick is the best looking class. face and body customization is nice but it's too bad the clothing customization kinda sucks. it isn't even on the level of Soul Calibur 3
>what if I add EVERYTHING? that will look good right?
adding everything is literally just glasses and a nosering. clothing customization is barebones
its still awful looking either way. shitty tattoo, shitty glasses (fricking glasses on some fur wearing barbarian?) and shitty looking nose piercings. all on some dumb looking basic b***h. kys
take a look at OPs picture. it's basically the default preset. why are you sperging out over this.
>fricking glasses on some fur wearing barbarian
because it gives stats
This b***h made me attempt to try the game but when I got to character creation her body sliders were limited as frick I wanted a female giant equivalent give me a 9 foot tall ogre BBW b***h to customize and play not some half ass skinny super model I want a big barbarian meaty b***h.
Will we ever get good looking fur in games...
diablo iv's druid imo
Game is fun till max level and then you quickly realize that nothing is possible without buying into the upgrade system
also I lost my account because the transfer system was fricking moronic and I just didn't care. but really nothing of value was lost because I was never going to end-game gamble anyways
>and then you quickly realize that nothing is possible without buying into the upgrade system
You can buy every single upgrade on the marketplace, except PEN on the debra(?) neck which only a few people got.
There is no max level and you don't have to use the upgrade system
Wish people would stop saying things that are factually untrue about BDO
How is the story and pvp?
You need to be on the cutting edge of gear levels to not get absolutely trashed in PvP. The whales WILL farm you
I thought the pvp would be good because it kind of reminds me of TERA.
Story is convoluted text dumps with walls of made up names and incoherent babble.
They need to lighten up a lot because there are decent plot points, but it's lost in MOUNTAINS of text in a game where everything is next-next-next-sprint-next-next-next-turnin. They're giving you a novel but expecting you to digest it in an ad break.
Although I haven't tried the recently revised simplified main storyline, so maybe they have trimmed a bit there.
The new winter area storyline improved the story telling a lot and actually made you a little interested in what was happening.
I made the mistake of taking that start when coming back after a year away.
>"Hey remember everything in all the previous storylines? Well here's your old friends Sfarr, Faokjneij, Onint, and Truynim now join them as they try and stop the Lonnads Rebels from starting a war with the Anbuysd warriors who are in an aliance with the Ybnaisnd because Hyba and NBijbaee wanted to harness the power of Bbashjd who's father, Iasnn began the rein of Oasnnis. But don't worry, former enemy Jasdbhdb and new buddy Pamsdijb will team up as you embark on an adventure across O'L.kasnu% to regain the thirteen Aksnsns of Unessha"
>Y'know what, how about we just skip to the part where you give me EXP.
Again, probably good if they let you digest it and not mix it with FOMO do everything now get max level now because limited time gogogogo.
They recently released a 3v3 arena that stats are equalized in that people find pretty fun. BDO has lots of pvp dick measuring
Does this game actually have content aside from endlessly grinding mob packs yet?
>Is this the best MMO in the market right now
nah, WoW still is, hilariously.
the FFXIV spergs will be along shortly, but you can ignore them.
>nah, WoW still is, hilariously.
WoW was not even good back in 2004
Right on time, lil cultie. Go back to running roulettes every day and hanging out in your epic troony fc.
If you can stomach the bland environments, the uninspired enemies, the bad localization, the tedious time sinks, the buying of boosts, the fail stacks, the fact that they'll delete your account after you paid for the game, the rampant fanboys who are mazed IN THIS VERY THREAD, the korean grind, the mediocre do-nothing combat, the walking simulator, and the rest of the game that made this a waste of time and energy on everyone who participates...then yes. It is the best MMO on the market.
You still have not answered what boosts you are talking about, Blizzdrone
>looks like shit
>gameplay is literally just farming mobs that can barely hurt you
>99% of combos and attacks don't do anything especially, aside from the occasional stun
>no reason to explore, nothing to really find, all worker/manufacturing loops are datamined and exploited
>PVP combat is just throwing out CC until one lands, doing a combo and backing off, repeat
>Classes barely have any differences, just different animations, everyone dashes 50 million times, appearances are class-locked.
>Story is bad even for an MMO and that is fricking saying something
>poorly translated
>worst RNG upgrade system ever made
>lifeskills are shit, half of them are incomplete, most of them are pointless
>literally nothing interesting to do in the entire game other than getting your gear level up through the awful enhancing system
BDO is unironically the worst MMO I've ever played and I've played the vast majority of MMOs out there.
>looks like shit
False
>gameplay is literally just farming mobs that can barely hurt you
False
>99% of combos and attacks don't do anything especially, aside from the occasional stun
False
>no reason to explore, nothing to really find, all worker/manufacturing loops are datamined and exploited
False
>PVP combat is just throwing out CC until one lands, doing a combo and backing off, repeat
Not entirely wrong but you can describe any PvP like this, fighting game or MMO
>Classes barely have any differences, just different animations, everyone dashes 50 million times, appearances are class-locked.
False
>Story is bad even for an MMO and that is fricking saying something
The story itself isn't bad but the way it's been presented isn't great, they've been trying to improve that though but I personally couldn't give less fricks about a story. Over focus on story ruined FFXIV.
>poorly translated
This used to be the case but it's gotten significantly better
>worst RNG upgrade system ever made
I think it's fine and you literally don't have to use the upgrade system at all if you don't want to, you can buy all of your gear on the market and there's also a guaranteed PEN boss gear quests
>lifeskills are shit, half of them are incomplete, most of them are pointless
False, some of them are not up to par with others but BDO has the best lifeskills in any MMO
>literally nothing interesting to do in the entire game other than getting your gear level up through the awful enhancing system
Also false
What MMO(s) do you play?
I already played it 600 hours in the past.
Had a lvl 62 zerker and 61 mage.
The grind became massive so I stopped.
I liked the stuff around combat, like hiring people to work for you at mines and such, gathering resources for you automatically while you do other things, ship building , house building etc. but the worst part was upkeeping all the myriad systems, having to make beer and such to keep the systems going. It started to become a chore.
>Progression is easy but it feels like a single player
That's modern MMOs in general. They let you run around solo until you reach level cap, and then you're immediately expected to know your role in a group perfectly.
>Is this the best MMO in the market right now.
To me it is. Open world sandbox with a PvP focus and progression that actually feels meaningful is what makes it for me. Having the best character creation and customization helps too.
It's a bit funny how people praise PoE and Diablo games for the mindless grinding to get loot, but when an MMO does the same it's bad.
BDO is so great to me because it managed to fill that grind itch, you can go to spots that have mindless mobs that poses no challenge and actual challenging spots that requires more attention.
>was going to buy a PEN tungrad neck like 1month ago
>prices has gone up with like 50% since then
Not even in BDO can I escape the inflations....
Are there any MMOs where you have to group up with others to do the content or is it all boring level scaled shit like eso where you can solo everything and kill the final boss in 10 seconds
>unironically wanting to be forced to group up with other players
I guess you haven't played enough MMOs or played MMOs long enough to develop a distaste for that
>unironically wanting to be forced to group up with other players
that's the point of an mmo. if i wanted to play by myself i'd play a single player game.
I disagree that being "forced" to play with others is the point of an MMO. I think the appeal of an MMO is a persistent open world populated by other players that you can choose to interact with but are not inherently forced to in order to progress. I prefer the kind of interaction brought by BDO where you can choose to team up with other people for certain things but outside of that other players will more often be a potential threat instead, depending on their nature.
Personally I got extremely tired of having my progression gated by other players and whether or not they can actually perform or if they ago afk a lot or disconnect or whatever other bullshit. It's tiresome. I've been playing MMOs for 20 years.
>I disagree that being "forced" to play with others is the point of an MMO. I think the appeal of an MMO is a persistent open world populated by other players that you can choose to interact with but are not inherently forced to in order to progress.
what's the point of a persistently populated world if you don't have to interact with anyone in it? the entire reason to have other players in the same instance as you is so you can benefit from their presence when needed.
PvP
world PvP is a player interaction, moron.
Are we not understanding each other or something? What has gotten lost in translation here?
BDO has the amount of player interaction I want for the activities I want. I don't want to be forced to group up with nerds for gear progression but I do enjoy the interaction of world PvP.
>only lvl 52
Don’t worry, you’ll figure why everyone gets bored once you hit 61
Recommend me some games that aren't boring
A single player game
Yeah I've played a lot of those, can you give me some names in case there's something I haven't tried
I prefer Lost Ark but you do you. These are just waiting distractions until Riot's MMO comes out.
>Riot's MMO
I have zero faith in that being good
Even if it isn't good, it will put pressure on every single MMO in the market to be better because it will take a huge chunk of players.
>think about being excited for a new mmo
>know that deep down that some streamer homosexual would ruin the game day one with his twitch autism
twitch needs to shut down
When is the EXP buff going up?
FFXIV is the best for me. Before that it was MH Frontier but alas it closed
this game is trash for progression and the grind is stupid, the only right way to play it is like a farm simulator, that's where it becomes kino
>this game is trash for progression
How do you figure?
This game has the best progression out of any MMO currently given that gear retains it's value and has purpose through PvP unlike all the theme park MMOs
Good to play casually thanks to Season servers jumpstarting you to TET boss gear. Gets really grindy once you go into lifeskills or you try to optimize your mob farming through enhanced agris and a full suite of T4 pets with a T5 pet leader.