New Order is pretty good by mainstream Western FPS standards, but it's not the generation-defining masterpiece that people claim it is. The writing is also nowhere near as good as people pretend. Still fun though, a solid 7/10.
Haven't played any of the others.
They're nothing particularly amazing, but certainly both above average 8/10 games that tow the line between old-school and nu-school fairly well. It's entirely possible to play these games never using iron sights due to the accurate hipfire, with the added bonus of being able to dual-wield for essentially double your magazine size. It feels good to empty your automatic shotguns into some big ass hulking robots until they die. At the same time, it can be played like an especially arcadey COD, and the game will reward you greatly for a more cover-shooter playstyle where you aim-down-sights from behind cover. It's got one foot in the classic FPS style, and one foot in the modern consolized FPS style, so it doesn't especially wow anyone, but it's solid across the board.
They're nothing particularly amazing, but certainly both above average 8/10 games that tow the line between old-school and nu-school fairly well. It's entirely possible to play these games never using iron sights due to the accurate hipfire, with the added bonus of being able to dual-wield for essentially double your magazine size. It feels good to empty your automatic shotguns into some big ass hulking robots until they die. At the same time, it can be played like an especially arcadey COD, and the game will reward you greatly for a more cover-shooter playstyle where you aim-down-sights from behind cover. It's got one foot in the classic FPS style, and one foot in the modern consolized FPS style, so it doesn't especially wow anyone, but it's solid across the board.
New Order is alright, The Old Blood is the best Wolfenstein anything we got since Enemy Territory even if it's shorter.
The worst part about is that you have to press E button on every single pick up in the game.
I'm tired of pretending New Order was good. It was basically just CoD with healthpacks. The gunplay wasn't even as good as Bioshock. It shines in the fun Wolfenstein setting and interesting settings like the Moonbase, but the actual gameplay is boilerplate.
DOOM though was great, fast moving, good mechanics, but had some broken shit like infinite ammo max upgrade chaingun that was pretty exploitable and Eternal improved on the movement by a wide margin. I do like the DOOM aesthetic a bit more over Eternal's.
The main difference that sets Nu-Wolfenstein back from Nu-Doom is sprint. Buff BJ's move speed, remove sprint, and I'd bet my life that Nu-Wolfenstein would close the gap with Nu-Doom as far as popularity goes.
This tbh. New Order was a first person cover shooter where you're stuff cowering behind walls in crouch waiting for your turn to shoot back a few rounds at the enemies who take a shitload of bullets. The only interesting parts are fighting giant robots.
Also the best part of the game is the WWII era opening which is over before it starts.
In terms of challenge, Eternal was vastly better.
But that was offset by two major downsides, namely the ugly visual aesthetic and the forced story moments
they're CONSOOMers. if you charged them $60 to be smacked in the face with a hammer because ~~*IGN*~~ gave it a 10/10, they'd throw their whole bank account at you.
Never ever ever playing a Wolfenstein game after seeing how shit my first experience was with it. Played Doom 2016 and it was just decent, I guess, didn't blow me away so I don't get what the hype was about that game.
You didn't need to try hard when the devs opted for that shitty kill chamber format.
Oh and made the design look like shit.
The game just looks like it was made in funko pop land along with its shitty mass effect alien monsters
I was there dipshit. Obviously everyone was excited about a new Doom game that didn't come out when they were in diapers.
I thought it visually looked like shit and hated the kill chamber format so I didn't play it beyond some steam demo.
Maybe some dipshit will still defend this game after the honeymoon phase because they remember playing it in high school or something. But it was always clear what the game was. With all its shitty canned animations and garbage soundtrack.
I don't know what Ganker as an individual thinks about the game, but it was inevitable that peopple would undeservably suck the games dick solely because it was a new doom game
Doom 2016 sucks. It's got more in common with Serious Sam TFE than it does with any actual Doom game especially the level design which is essentially "you're locked in a rectangular room with monsters, kill em all to continue"
Wolf TNO at least takes some cues from SS TSE and has some actual level design
>on-rails >need twitch reflexes >no real moddability >tacked-on "crafting" >"light rpg elements"
oh, and... >limited save slots bc "muh difficulty," "if you don't like it, git gud" and the classic "save scumming = cheating"
yup. the console kiddies have all grown up now. feast on the consequences.
>doesn't know what on rails means >reflexes are too slow to keep up >nudoom has mods >lies about there being a crafting system >upgrades in action games are not "rpg elements" unless the orb stores in DMC are now "rpg elements" >gets filtered because he can't save scum his way through the game
Yep, thats a moronic boomer alright.
>noooo muh savescumming
If you played through doom 1 and 2 and if you saved at ANY point midway through a level, you did not by any stretch of the imagination beat the goddamn game.
What will happen when all boomers die
I think it will be pretty sad
No more senile ramblings
No more seething over new things
Ganker will literally die
Considering that the sequels to both were underwhelming and nowhere near as good as the first nu-games, I don't think so.
No, that was the recent past.
I've heard the New Colossus wasn't all that good, but is the New Order and Old Blood worth it?
New Order is pretty good by mainstream Western FPS standards, but it's not the generation-defining masterpiece that people claim it is. The writing is also nowhere near as good as people pretend. Still fun though, a solid 7/10.
Haven't played any of the others.
Thanks anons. I'll give them a try at some point.
Yes. I think Old Blood is even better than NO.
They're nothing particularly amazing, but certainly both above average 8/10 games that tow the line between old-school and nu-school fairly well. It's entirely possible to play these games never using iron sights due to the accurate hipfire, with the added bonus of being able to dual-wield for essentially double your magazine size. It feels good to empty your automatic shotguns into some big ass hulking robots until they die. At the same time, it can be played like an especially arcadey COD, and the game will reward you greatly for a more cover-shooter playstyle where you aim-down-sights from behind cover. It's got one foot in the classic FPS style, and one foot in the modern consolized FPS style, so it doesn't especially wow anyone, but it's solid across the board.
New Order is alright, The Old Blood is the best Wolfenstein anything we got since Enemy Territory even if it's shorter.
The worst part about is that you have to press E button on every single pick up in the game.
New colossus is best
It wouldn't be that bad. Both are great FPS.
>the future
It has been 6 years since Doom and 8 since New Order
I hope not. Doom 1 and 2 were way better than this garbage
I'm tired of pretending New Order was good. It was basically just CoD with healthpacks. The gunplay wasn't even as good as Bioshock. It shines in the fun Wolfenstein setting and interesting settings like the Moonbase, but the actual gameplay is boilerplate.
DOOM though was great, fast moving, good mechanics, but had some broken shit like infinite ammo max upgrade chaingun that was pretty exploitable and Eternal improved on the movement by a wide margin. I do like the DOOM aesthetic a bit more over Eternal's.
The main difference that sets Nu-Wolfenstein back from Nu-Doom is sprint. Buff BJ's move speed, remove sprint, and I'd bet my life that Nu-Wolfenstein would close the gap with Nu-Doom as far as popularity goes.
This tbh. New Order was a first person cover shooter where you're stuff cowering behind walls in crouch waiting for your turn to shoot back a few rounds at the enemies who take a shitload of bullets. The only interesting parts are fighting giant robots.
Also the best part of the game is the WWII era opening which is over before it starts.
Agreed, that opening chapter was pure kino.
Why do people still pretend Eternal was good or even better than 2016 with it's forced brutal kill loop
In terms of challenge, Eternal was vastly better.
But that was offset by two major downsides, namely the ugly visual aesthetic and the forced story moments
>forced brutal kill loop
wut? The only time you need to hit an animation is to reload if you run out of map pickups.
Because it is
they're CONSOOMers. if you charged them $60 to be smacked in the face with a hammer because ~~*IGN*~~ gave it a 10/10, they'd throw their whole bank account at you.
Never ever ever playing a Wolfenstein game after seeing how shit my first experience was with it. Played Doom 2016 and it was just decent, I guess, didn't blow me away so I don't get what the hype was about that game.
>I don't get what the hype was about that game
Basedboys wanting to seem hardcore so they religiously latch onto the game with garbage metal and gore
>Ultrakill came out in the last two years
frick off, moron
>came out
doom
>automatically pick up ammo and gear
>perfect game flow
nu-wolfenstein
>have to manually pick up everything
>need to rebind use key to m1
besides that the new order was amazing
>future
>6 year old games
This is the present of FPS games (and thats a bad thing!)
You didn't need to try hard when the devs opted for that shitty kill chamber format.
Oh and made the design look like shit.
The game just looks like it was made in funko pop land along with its shitty mass effect alien monsters
I was there dipshit. Obviously everyone was excited about a new Doom game that didn't come out when they were in diapers.
I thought it visually looked like shit and hated the kill chamber format so I didn't play it beyond some steam demo.
Maybe some dipshit will still defend this game after the honeymoon phase because they remember playing it in high school or something. But it was always clear what the game was. With all its shitty canned animations and garbage soundtrack.
I don't know what Ganker as an individual thinks about the game, but it was inevitable that peopple would undeservably suck the games dick solely because it was a new doom game
Doom 2016 sucks. It's got more in common with Serious Sam TFE than it does with any actual Doom game especially the level design which is essentially "you're locked in a rectangular room with monsters, kill em all to continue"
Wolf TNO at least takes some cues from SS TSE and has some actual level design
>on-rails
>need twitch reflexes
>no real moddability
>tacked-on "crafting"
>"light rpg elements"
oh, and...
>limited save slots bc "muh difficulty," "if you don't like it, git gud" and the classic "save scumming = cheating"
yup. the console kiddies have all grown up now. feast on the consequences.
>doesn't know what on rails means
>reflexes are too slow to keep up
>nudoom has mods
>lies about there being a crafting system
>upgrades in action games are not "rpg elements" unless the orb stores in DMC are now "rpg elements"
>gets filtered because he can't save scum his way through the game
Yep, thats a moronic boomer alright.
>noooo muh savescumming
If you played through doom 1 and 2 and if you saved at ANY point midway through a level, you did not by any stretch of the imagination beat the goddamn game.
Hello 2016
>1 hour cutscene every 20 minutes of gameplay
>5 seconds cutscenes every 20 seconds of gameplay if you want ammo
the future is shit
a 1 second cutscene to get health back fricking terrifies the senile boomer
you missed Wrong board
seems more your thing
What will happen when all boomers die
I think it will be pretty sad
No more senile ramblings
No more seething over new things
Ganker will literally die