Is this the least hyped expansion in WoW history?
Nobody is talking about it.
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The last "Hyped" was Mists, but that was only because Cata was fricking god awful and the people that kept around at that time were after anything.
The last four expansions have done a good job running the game into the ground, and while this one doesn't seem to have moronic shit made solely to hook players on with gay timegates and microgrinds, it appears to have very little content at launch.
I thought people liked Legion in spite of the horrible legendary system.
Really that was probably the last chance Blizzard had to turn the game's reputation back around and save it before immediately throwing it all away again with BfA.
It was generally liked yeah, though some people who got fricked over by the Legendary system despised it. If they hadn't cranked so much content out during the expansion it probably would have ended up just as reviled as the other three.
The thing Legion had going for it was that it was the level 100 expansion, the one big wow finale they had had plans for since the dawn of the game, the moment you finally dealt with the big bad of the series.
No matter what they did there was no way it was going to be bad with all the groundwork they had been laying for years.
The expansions after that were completely on the skill of the current dev team so they went to shit. The story had nowhere left to go either.
Was Legion more like Warlords or Battle/Shadowlands? It was the last expansion I played starting with vanilla and followed the trend of decline each expansion but it didn't seem that much worse than Warlords.
It was like WoD but with more content I guess.
Legion is most like BFA/Shadowlands and was the start of the massive decline of World of Warcraft. I'm not sure why people remember it so fondly, but Legion was just as bad as BFA/SL. Legion introduced Artifact Power and it was the final nail in the coffin for the game. There was barely anything to do at launch and it followed the current trend of releasing a barebones expansion and having patches fill in the rest. Unfortunately, the content patched into Legion was more dull than anything the game had ever seen. Legion invasions were a fricking joke. The main endgame grind, Mythic+, ruined the game just as much as LFR did. Legendary's were a poorly implemented version of the Exotic system from Destiny and it just funneled each class into one specific playstyle that they were never able to dig themselves out of. It was a fricking dogshit expansion.
Probably Blizzard shills astroturfing the internet and legionbabies.
In all honesty BC was the begining of the end as blizzard merged with activision at that time thinking the needed the money and began compromising the story in favour of gameplay homogenization like retconning the Eredar story to give Alliance shamans when they said they would never do that.
Blizzard is a business centered around making money and they always lie.
I can remember Hots in 2016 where they said they wouldnt add overwatch heroes because it was a new game and Hots was supposed to be for blizzards older titles. Then they added Tracer and Genji, nearly every single overwatch hero they added has been busted as frick and needed to be nerfed heavily.
Blizzard died when they started making insane amounts of money from WoW that they didnt know what to do with it and sidelined Starcraft 2 and D3 if they had just stayed a normal company teedering on success and niche we could still be playing golden age products.
Legion had a good theme and gave you Ashbringer; ultimately people care about style over substance
Conversely MoP was objectively one of the best times to actually play the game but no one did because Pandas
Wrath was actually a bad expansion in terms of playing; but Northrend was beautiful and the Arthas story is captivating - I'm absolutely certain Wrath will blackpill so many nostalgia gays on how annoying Wrath was when they have to farm like 6 raid lockouts a week on every toon
>MoP was objectively one of the best times to actually play the game
>how annoying Wrath was when they have to farm like 6 raid lockouts a week on every toon
>Wrath will blackpill so many nostalgia gays on how annoying Wrath was when they have to farm like 6 raid lockouts a week on every toon
What the literal frick are you talking about
By the time ICC is out, all previous raids are pretty much invalidated due to the gap in ilvl. Nobody does T7 raids because you can get better gear from 5mans. Nobody does Ulduar other than screwing around getting achievements or doing 0light for mimiron head.
On what planet do people "farm 6 raids a week" in WOTLK? Probably some funserver that you mistook for the real thing.
what is forge of souls
what is pit of saron
what is halls of reflection
>I'm not sure why people remember it so fondly
content
the amount of content in legion was mind-numbing. i don't know why people fail to point out the massive lack of content in bfa/sl compared to legion. legion may have had timegated stuff, but that was in addition to tons of other stuff. bfa/sl relied on time-gating and didn't have jack shit to do besides wait until next week to get another 5 minute quest.
>bfa/sl relied on time-gating and didn't have jack shit to do besides wait until next week to get another 5 minute quest.
Literally just described Broken Shore
WoD was the start of the massive declline.
Legion was the "break glass in case of emergency" expansion. Blizzard played all of their big cards in Legion: Big lore weapons like Ashbringer, Doomhammer, Frostmourne reforged and the long running story of the Burning Legion was resolved with major villains like Kil'jaeden and Sargeras finally being dealt with.
Not to mention playable demon hunters and having the players kill a Titan.
they also put effort into it: suramar will never come again, the class reworks, world quests and a ton of little details everywhere that just wasn't put into BFA and SL
>world quests
In both
>class reworks
The only big reworks were demo and survival and both fricking sucked. Smaller ones like outlaw and shadow also fricking sucked (and no, S2M being extremely overturned for one tier doesn't change that) and all 4 of those specs had to be changed again in BFA
Suramar is the only thing that was above average and that's because HFC lasted 16 fricking months.
>Nobody is talking about it.
After Cucklands the game doesn't even feels nor looks like WoW anymore. Only the most moronic sunk cost whales are playing it.
I hadn't even heard of it til I saw this thread.
>WoD
>Battle for Azeroth
>Shadowlands
you'd have to be mentally ill to actually be hyped for this after all the shit they pulled
Everything after WotLK was shit because it ended the WC3 storyline and they didn't know how to proceed.
Cata really wasn't that bad until Dragon Soul.
No Cata was good until the first skipped content patch. 4.1 came out and instead of getting a new raid we just got some rehashed dungeons. It was part of their new "less content but quicker!" design philosphy post wrath because they moved so much of their team to the Titan project aka Overwatch
WoW started to die just because they put less content in there. Remember the content drought in MoP? Over a year in SoO with no new content. That's the big reason WoD was a disaster. They marketed it as "back to the old days!" since Overwatch was wrapping up. Bragging about hiring more people and going back to the roots and being sorry for the Cata/MoP low content expansions
Only to completely do the opposite and WoD being a disaster. WoD showed them that microtransactions made more money than actual content did, and the quality of the game was irrelevant.
Blizzdrones make a thousand excuses for why subs went down. But its simply the lack of content and now shit content.
>that giant spike and then instant dip in subs with WoD
never fails to make me laugh
/v/irgins forget but it was marketed as a return to the old ways and they even lied about expanding their team. Everyone went in expecting it to be great.
Then they cancelled three zones, both capital cities, the big battleground, two raids, the ability to choose where your garrison was, and didn't even have hellfire ready at launch.
It's part of the reason Blizzdrones get laughed at so hard. Imagine getting burned through Cata and MoP, then again in WoD, then Battle for Azeroth and Shadowlands. After all of that STILL wanting to play Dragonflight.
You're a shit eater plain and simple.
>Imagine getting burned through Cata and MoP, then again in WoD, then Battle for Azeroth and Shadowlands. After all of that STILL wanting to play Dragonflight.
Yep, WoD was the last. I bought Legion when it was on sale, after BfA came out... Didn't really check it out long enough to even be worth whatever little price I paid.
>counting Wrath copypasting an entire raid as its own tier but not BRF or NH
moronic wrathbaby post
wrath had one year of ICC.
cata had one year of dragonsouls.
wrath also had rehash naxxramas which is embarrassingly lazy and totc which is dogshit too.
legit just two tiers of actual effort in that expansion.
Cata ruined the “world” of warcraft frick you. I don’t care about any gameplay improvements. They put a gay tornado in darkshore.
There were a lot of rumors that the original WoD idea was to allow them to do a timeskip and go back to Warcraft 1 and 2. Reboot all the lore as we see old Stormwind etc. and make a new storyline.
But it was "too much work" when they realized microtransactions were king
They removed more a lot of content from the pervious game too. WoD was functionally the worst expansion but nowhere near as bad as the totality of Shudderlands
>they made the combat as slow as OG but with only 3-5 spells
Also the absolute state of PvP. Blizzdrones always try to act like pvp is good in their shitty game when its a huge joke.
MMORPGs players, specially the PvP enthusiasts, always make me laugh when they believe they're good at video games.
Arena were always a mistake. But that goes for most e-sports.
Yeah esports are hella gay but WoW arena is the biggest travesty ever in video games:
>playing a MMORPG
>for the 3 vs 3 fights
Is just moronic.
any mmo that has pvp where your gear matters is trash and only enjoyed by no skill morons who couldn’t cope in an even competitive playing field
levels are more annoying.
mmos should generally drop levels as a concept. it only leads to shitty linear progression design and makes all the early game areas dead.
WTF
you heard me.
Yeah
what the frick is the context? Is he just unkillable while doing nothing?
this was in BFA
resto shaman which he is playing had extremely overpowered passive self heal for a patch or so on top of a 20% damage reduct when in spirit form
combine that with a bad enemy dps you can just afk
its just a pvp talent that grants you 20% damage reduction and a considerable amount of hp regen while in spirit wolf form
the only fun part of WoW pvp was ganking and instigating gigantic faction wars in leveling zones
arenahomosexualry is what ruined the game
The days of downing the server on raid reset days by doing 200 players faction wars are sadly behind us. The people who played solely on PvE servers have no idea of the endless fights started by some rando who just wanted to skin a boar or of doing dailies in 5-man groups with gladiator gear.
Healing being strong was a huge mistake for WoW pvp. Should have been primarily focused on supporting DPS and buffing, not healing
WTF
>WotLK ended the burning legion plot
moronic parrot.
Did I really need to put WC3:FT you deliberately obtuse Black person
Are you moronic? Did you even played WC3?
Explain to me how the events of WC3 and FT weren't finished by WotLK then clearly I'm missing something
I already told you, Burning Legion is still coming. Are you moronic? Specially when WoW actually deal with that in the most possible unsatisfying way.
They should have tied that up in BC but instead transcended moronicom
>They should have tied that up in BC
Yeah but they know they'll run out of content. Which I assume its a problem of nu-WoW. Who's even the "bad guy" now?
Who cares all the good antagonists are dead.
Is the perfect timeline
>WC
>WC2
>WC3
>WC3:FT
>Vanilla
>BC tying up the Burning Legion
>WotLK tying up Frozen Throne
>MMO's completely die as a genre
But the first 3 WC games are barely connected and each game retcons half of the setting. You're suppose to like Blizzard games for the gameplay and campiness, not the "originality" of the settings or the "deep" story.
I mean in terms of overall enjoyment of the franchise
A slight correction. Not all mmos need to die. Single player, hand holding, welfare epic handing out, theme park mmos that clearly copied everything they could from WoW need to die. Mmos had a lot more to offer before WoW killed all the good ones by slurping up everyone. Even I am guilty, but it does not mean we can't return to the old ways with WoWs death.
It was so bad that 99% of the playerbase didn’t give a frick about the Legion any longer
soul vs soulless
It's one thing if you started playing wow mega late or something, but its genuinely baffling to me how somebody who started before say mists still plays the game at all. I know there's not a lot, but frick me wowgays in the current year are really deranged
I started with shadowlands and while I stopped after a year the novelty of doing dungeons and raids was a lot of fun, as was leveling every class.
I think the reality is come launch day, people will come back. A toned down expansion with minimal grind and more immersion is what people have wanted for a long time.
Good take. I’m sorry you never played WoW
I got to play Nost and Classic in my lifetime which while some people claim wasn't the same as vanilla it gave me the same stories of meeting random people, becoming friends and exploring a fresh world (for me).
So I actually feel I got a pretty great experience. I have no disappointment dragged over a decade of bad decisions to live with and only 1-2 years sub time.
Classic was pretty good. You only missed the people of the time period. The crowd was much different when you played. The RP servers are the last bastion of fun wow perverts last I played. Classic BC was ruined by boosting and laziness.
I started in BC, played constantly until Legion and played on and off since then until Shadowlands - which I quit after week 2
The thing is Shadowlands arguably is the best WoW has been in a while from people I know who still play, but it's still by far the lowest point in terms of player count - I genuinely think there's almost nothing than can fix or change WoW, it's just a 20 year old game that barely attracts new players and doesn't retain enough of the new players who do for some reason try it
They did the whole new zone for new players, it still feels dated, if I was a new player I wouldn't feel inclined to carry on; I know this gets thrown about a lot but it just doesn't have the soul or essence of running around northshire valley or camp monache for the first time has - and it never will again
Looking at some of the changes the most recent patch added it legitimately looks like a much better game than it was in BFA - which I slogged through - but it doesn't matter; I just don't care anymore and I was one of the biggest sunkcost blizz-drones you can imagine
Plus with how openly c**ty Blizzard now it's really easy to not give them money, which helps
>Shadowlands arguably is the best WoW has been
Never ever.
They literally ruined every single plot in one “afterlife” OC donut self insert expansion.
That's not what I said; objectively the changes they've made to WoW in shadowlands from the people I know who still play are what players have been asking for since Legion; tier set protection, no AP, cross-faction, M+ or raids a viable gear progression
In terms of modern WoW post-legion, SL seems to actually be relatively good (which of course means very little)
My point is while Shadowlands is a good product on paper with its systems etc; no one gives a frick anymore
You need to keep in mind it also took them a year and a half year of Shitlands to implement the shit people wanted.
Ummm sweetie that’s because of Covid. The fact they even put out a successful and huge content patch that fast is a testament to the talent and skills of blizzard.
Jokes aside, I swear they only put the thing to make any piece of armor into tier in because the game being shit and the lawsuit caused a loss of subscribers to a degree never yet seen. Shame enough drones came crawling back to embolden the writing team to not retcon their garbage.
I started playing shadowlands for the first time and the moment you get to the covenant part of the game and it throws world quests, callings, renown, anima upgrades and then the maw + stygia farm at you, any inkling of excitement to play the game just gets thrown out the window
And its gonna happen again in Dragonflight, just under new names
> I started playing shadow lands
Opinion discarded
Worlo lost.
imagine still caring about wow
Shodowgays literally killed what little hope anyone had
>emerald dream was supposed to be an expansion
>was just a raid patch
>argus was supposed to be an expansion to finally end the legion
>was just a raid patch
>Azshara was supposed to be an expansion
>was just a raid patch
>old gods was supposed to be an expansion
>was just a raid patch
>they then had to make up bullshit for shadowlands and dragonflight
like what the frick is even the threat with dragonflight, you already went through satan and satan 2.0
>like what the frick is even the threat with dragonflight
yet even more old god shit leading up to the void lords being the focus of the next expansion
after that then they literally have nothing left
They had nothing left after Legion. Sargeras went away, so they asspulled super sargeras, and introduced the super titans who like made the titans who made everything bro.
You'll kill the void lords and then suddenly it's the super void lords who were the real void lords all along, even though void lords were just super old gods. And then comes the super super titans, and super duper old gods and probably the super legion too.
>Argus and Azshara their own expansions
lol no.
Good, they moved on with their life
WOTLK Classic has overshadowed it by a lot.
Without the cosmic threat of Sargeras looming, WoW has officially lost all ties to the overarching plot of the original games. Now it's all random new shit that nobody cares about. Blizzard blew their load with Legion and now Warcraft is utterly dead.
Having a definitive end to the Burning Legion as an omnipresent existential threat is one of the worst things they've ever done, second only to Shadowlands brutally butchering the mythology of the setting.
How can there be an afterlife if i’ve been getting scammed by spirit healers for years?
I always just accepted spirit healers were loosely canonical at best and just a means of handwaving a game mechanic in-universe. They should have just stayed that way.
My idea for shadowlands was you just die and quest as a ghost. But no, we gotta let our new lesbian writer make herself a gawd
>My idea for shadowlands was you just die and quest as a ghost
But that was Blizzard's original idea for the Shadowlands, they were too busy to develop it and only some leftovers remained, like the quest to get BRD key or one part of Linken's chain quest.
It's the shittiest afterlife I have ever seen in any form of media too, even without the arbiter being broken
You just get assigned a day job to do for a few centuries in some shithole and act out life 2 until you double die and they suck up your soul juice to power death appliances
It's simply amazing how they come up with these cool concepts but frick the execution EVERY SINGLE TIME
I could write a better shadowlands on a paper napkin. Here:
>Rip off the 7 layers of hell from Dante
>Each layer is its own zone but physically separated from the other like in Shadowlands to please their lazy fricking devs
>First layer is limbo which is the place your character goes to normally when they die and corpse run. This is has literally been in the game since the fricking START so HOW DID THEY FORGET THIS IN SHADOWLANDS
>Doesn't require Sylvanas breaking the Lich King hat or whatever the frick
>No Jailer
>No arbiter or any of that shit just pure DEATH STUFF
>Arthas is at the bottom
Hire me Blizzard you hacks
>some random human who died 10 years ago is king of the lowest circle of hell
Completely moronic
Who said he was the king lorelet?
Anon I would hire you. At the very least it’s already better than 3 latest xpacs
I legit thought that plot was the case but i’m not homo
“ satanic” baphomet worship in a nihilist consumerist sauce
Blizzard is Blackrock
Frick blizzard
There will never be a good MMORPG again will there? All the novelty has gone, there is nothing to hope for.
I just want to isekai ;_;
If you can freeze yourself for about 60 years you'll get to live out your Overlord fantasy, otherwise no. You were born to late to explore the seas, too early to explore the stars and no where near enough to experience cyberpunk tier shit. You're the meme generation.
When the main feature of your expansion is copying the GW2 flying mount system its time to call it quits, its ALMOST as moronic as making your main feature a fricking card game. I can only hope the new wave of MMO's has at least one decent game so this walking corpse of a game can go in "Everquest 1 coma expansions mode".
>the new wave of MMOs
Ashes of Scamreation and?
The ones i know of
>Western: Ashes of Creation, Riot MMO, Pantheon: rise of the fallen
>Korean:Throne and liberty, Age of Sigmar MMO
>Korean MMOs
>good
>ever
brain damage
Yes we know you have brain damage since you read shit i never said.
Anybody got a cure for battered wife syndrome?
My family has been invested in this trash since 2007
Community building on a free server or divine intervention
Legion was fun for me because of all the class specific quests and zones. I wished they carried it on instead of it being just a gimmick.
>"nobody is talking about it"
>5+ threads on Ganker every single day
Who has it worse: the shills or the fans?
shills, the fans can at least play other things even if they're forever enslaved to WoW
Every WoW thread I've seen lately has been for Wrath classic
Nobody gives a frick about Dragonflight and for good reason
Ganker is just /b/ for adults these days which means constant, never ending, shitposting. These threads are never positive, whether that's bringing up the jomo dragon second life race or laughing at the ideologues behind the game inserting their ridiculous politics in to questlines. Unironica troony wheelchair dragons, baseline abilities in talent points, it's a dark comedy that keeps giving.
>adults
Anon I...
>Let me desperately try to draw you in to my red herring to avoid the enormous pile of shit the game I'm shilling for is!
Mental maturity and physical maturity are two different things, your troony dragon wheelchair game is a joke.
Who's saying nu-WoW is good? Go finish high school and get some reading comprehension, you underage moron.
>for adults
They're killing off Malfurion. Frick 'em.
He's been suspiciously absent since Legion. Did his voice actor get metood or something?
Just replaced by Tyrande
>He's been suspiciously absent since Legion
Be glad he has been spared from the pozzed writing, they seem hell bent on either ruining every male character by making them moronic or giving them some mercy and just killing them off. I didn't think it was possible for warcrafts writing to get even worse but bringing ~~*women*~~ writers on board sure did the trick.
he's coming back in dragonflight so they can kill him off because the writers only know how to do cuckshit and misery porn for tyrande
I dont feel like grinding for 800 hours to updated me resume so that I can start to play comfortably. Compared to FFXIV where I can hop on anything and do all the quality content instantly.
Childlike glee will only return when you stop writing gay garbage
>stop writing gay garbage
>Not stopping datamining six months ahead
Gay garbage being gone would just make the game good.
mating press
mating press
wow is dead new world is taking over
Leveling and exploring the world is what made the game great.
The majority of the player base wasn't even level capped until halfway through wrath, which is when the game started dying because the adventure was over.
Raidlogging is cringe.
>wand bears for 10 bear asses
>wand fel bears for 10 fel bear asses
>wand plague polar bears for 10 plague polar bear asses
anyone who enjoys questing has serious brain damage
>wand krxyshtixky, the dickraper one a week and log off
good use of your time and money
if it took them more than four years to reach level cap then they werent playing in the first place.
what is their to talk about, faster flying?
How do we make wow a cultural phenomenon again?
Indulge me Blizzturds.
Niller
>feel good adventure
BC
>grimdark plotless space-adventure
LK
>heroic adventure that kills off the last well written characters
Cata
>destroys its own house to “own” the traditional chuds
MoP
> feel good adventure in a racist asian setting
WoD
> burning crusade 2 boys in the hood (now 40% BIPOC)
Legion
> BC 3 Return of the King
BFA
>Shrek 4 the game
Sneeedolands
> transgender cuckold rape fetish religious simulator
Dragoonflight
> furry ERP promisedlands
Am I wrong?
Welp
>MoP
>> feel good adventure in a racist asian setting
There was nothing feel good about it
WoW is shit
The graphics and endgame are shit
Imagine telling a completely new player that if they wanted to raid they have to download some 3rd party program in the year 2022
KeK LMAO shit game get with the times granpa
>Kill death
>Replace death with a troony
>You're friends with the troony
>You can visit people who have died in the afterlife like it was going to the mall
what's stakes are left, you have killed death
what moron writes their narrative into a corner like this ?
and you're suppose to get excited about dragons ?
no its more like you've killed satan and saint peter at the pearly gates is a troony now, which is actually a terrifying concept.
Time stuff with Murozond returning as one of the datamined models was an infinite dragonflight drakonid
I don't mind the Infinite Dragonflight in theory, but after how WoD was handled Blizzard should stay the frick away from introducing time travel as a major plot point ever again.
Nothing good ever comes of it.
Honestly I don't understand how anyone can get hyped at all for any WoW expansion after WoD. Not that shit like Cataclysm was great but WoD was such a huge failure I don't know how anyone continues to fall for the same empty promises.
There is very little things to be hyped about. Outside of the new Dragon Riding System, wich will only be fun for a few months until it becomes mundane, there isn't anything new and exciting to look foward. The new race/class looks like something that came out of Scaly porn. The story/lore of the Warcraft universe is in the worst state it has ever been. The leveling process is still the same old boring thing it has been since BFA. The raiding experince is still a outdated mess that is designed to waste 4h out of everyone that participates in it. The game still expects you to read guides and download addons for it to be playable. The only thing that looks promising is the Talent Trees coming back, wich is just blizzard going back on a terrible change, and the "promise" that this time they won't waste people's time with Borrowed Power systems, they still going to have you farm rep and other bullshit grinds tough.
I like how everyone avoids talking about how this expansion is literally just furry bait.
It is fricking furry bait of the highest caliber and signifies the lowest blizzard has fallen.
Everyone just tries to ignore it or stop themselves from talking about it because the reality is too horrifying to process normally.
Anyone who truly saw this for what it was left the threads long ago.
they've been furry baiting since cataclysm and haven't stopped since. this is just another attempt, but this time it won't work because all the furries are either already playing wow or got sick of it and left. it's pathetic how desperate wow devs are at this point
I just want a comfy tab-target MMO with small group dungeon content to waste time on but literally every single one of my options in current year sucks complete ass.
I'd actually enjoy something so straightforward and ungimmicky these days
Lich King eclipsed the scalies
i hate shadowlands lore so much it's unreal
morons were hyped for shadowlands, enough you can create slop so many times and eventually people will catch on. People are more interested in a decade old expansion than whatever blizzard is doing now.
>Is this the least hyped expansion in WoW history?
yeah it is BUT watch it be the best selling expansion. Just like shadowlands was.
I wonder how less hype somehow manages to increase the sales every time shouldnt it be the reverse?
apparently not when it comes to WoW expansions.
didn't they bundle sneedolands for free with AMD GPUs or something?
willing to bet my ass those were counted as sales
probably. They had a lot of promotions, but I'm willing to bet that it only accounts for maybe 5% if that of sales.
The reason why it's so high is because of multiple reasons. One of them being they've created loyal customers over the years. Yes some of that trust is now diminished because of recent events, but people really don't understand the level of brand loyalty associated with Blizzard.
So when you see furryFlight make 'top sales' don't be surprised. As someone who actually works in this industry I've learnt that if you cant entice the current generation of consumers to purchase your product you can wait it out to the next one.
Expansion seems to be pretty good
Hit level cap and go do dungeons or raids, no need to worry about farming borrowed powers. Casuals get their content with dragon riding and professions
This is an inherent problem no matter what, people race to max level which takes a day so they can proceed to do the exact same essentially big dungeon(raid) and nothing else over snd over for months until id time to do the next big one every few months
Players wonder why there bored. The raid of the week should be the big event of that week, true. But they need to place focus on other things
They have these zones they spend probably the most amount of time making each expac just to throw them away, they don’t matter remotelyoutside of mondless world quests.
Maybe instead of small who cares quests, dont make those anymore or world quests
Instead make overworld mobs hit hard again so players can’t zoom though them with giant 10-15 quest chains in these zones that always award raid level gear near the end of then to get you started or fill in some slots.
Now you run into the problem that a lot of the gear in nu wow is incredibly boring and only the ilvl really matters which is true. Make more interesting gear so people would want to swap out there quest chain gear thats a good start with the raid gear that would have the more interesting properties without needing to inflate stats on it.
When a content patch comes out instead of having to work on another huge zone you could simply just load 5-10 more quest chains in these zones. So much work mo longer needed which should allow the raids to cone out sooner. The thing people actually care about.
These more substantial chains will also allow you to insert new characters and places for future expacs.
Its too late with wow and these are just quick ideas i made up but it should be used as a lesson for a mmo who only gets a single new raid every 5ish months and practically nothing else
You can do keystone dungeons all day long. I think it's fun pushing yourself and seeing how high of a key you can do, and always trying to improve.
Also there are interesting items with neat effects like the mechagon rings, some raid weapons etc.