Is this the most reactive RPG? Every dialogue choice you make and each of your decisions affect future outcomes in the game and your relationships with the characters in a meaningful way.
It's a shame no one has copied the formula but I imagine a game like this would be a b***h to develop. I saw the design docs for it and they were a spaghettified mess of branching outcomes.
 |
 It's All Fucked Shirt $22.14 |
|
>Is this the most reactive RPG?
Dialogue choices make the player react, they are not reactive. Reactive is like if I cast grease on steps enemies slip and fall down them, this is the game reacting to the player.
You're talking about a game's mechancis being reactive vs it's narrative being reactive.
No, I'm pointing out that you are dressing up a lazy and undesirable mechanic as something good.
You are an idiot.
Stop being autistic we all know what he is talking about
yeah it's schizo af
It's the only RPG where you can unironically support all enemies of the US, so pretty based.
It's a combatgay trying too hard to apply a narrow definition of the 'reactivity' buzzword. Just ignore them, they'll never back down.
So what's the mot fun build for a first playtrough? People say pistols behave like OP sniper rifles.
I just go full stealth.
Stealth + Pistol is the strongest way to kill (or tranq) basic enemies. Pistol by itself is also the best boss killing build. It's very OP.
It's not great for long distance sniping until very high skill in pistol though. AR + subsonic rounds will be more like a sniper rifle. Or with other ammo if you don't care about stealth I guess.
Honestly as long as you have a way to deal damage that isn't the shotgun, you shouldn't have much problem. It's not a terribly difficult game.
It is reactive but that doesnt mean its good.
Sadly due to a rushed development and awful management and many internal issues and engine problems.
Alpha Protocol is a bad RPG.
More morons should post their "tierlists" next to their opinion about a particular game. Really gives some context.
>GOD TIER
>Ultima Underworld
>Witcher 3
>Mass Effect
Opinion Discarded, go play some Dragon's Dogma or Divinity Original Sin, then come back to me.
>Deus Ex and Dark Messiah are not RPG's
>but Fable 3 is
For me, it was putting biowareslop at the top that tipped me off.
>GOD TIER
>The Witcher 3
>GREAT
>Skyrim
>GOOD
Mass Effect 3
>MEH
>Fable
>BAD
>Alpha Protocol
You fricking moron
>ME2 in god tier
Way to completely invalidate anything you have to say you stupid homosexual
tf is wrong w/ ME2
it's boring
It's the Dragon Age 2 of the Mass Effect series, except it was polished enough and third person shooters were still popular enough for people to give it a pass.
It began the trend of stripping out the RPG elements that Bioware used to be known for.
Alpha Protocol is actually more in line with how the original Mass Effect played. Both of them were good games, but they struggled with getting the RPG and shooter elements to gel together. Mass Effect 2's "solution" was to ditch as much of the RPG elements possible and be an "Action-RPG" instead.
Mass Effect 2 is great. Mass Effect 2 is the best cover shooter ever made. I'd consider it a third person shooter with RPG mechanics, though. It doesn't go on my list of best RPGs. I wouldn't really get offended if someone called it an RPG, though. That's kind of like calling Dynasty Warriors an RPG just because your guys gain levels and can be customized, though. It isn't one.
>Mass Effect 2 is the best cover shooter ever made
ME2 is at best a mediocre cover shooter.
It's actually bad if you compare it to cover shooters that aren't RPGs.
>Mass Effect 2 is the best cover shooter ever made.
That's the problem though. The Mass Effect was always meant to be a Space Opera RPG with shooter elements, especially since RPGs were Bioware's bread and butter, and both Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect proved that the RPG stuff was what people wanted.
For some reason, they steadily ditched the RPG elements they were good at for the shooter elements they only had practice with with Mass Effect.
Mass Effect 2 and 3 are passable at shooters, but they're mediocre RPGs.
Other than being able to do silly stuff like an infinitely firing gun or one shot kill death cannon, which are certainly fun, what RPG stuff does 1 do better? All the storytelling is miles better in 2.
>All the storytelling is miles better in 2.
The frick? The storytelling, atmosphere, and sense of verisimilitude is a gorillion times better in the first game.
Dunno man. Dialogue consists of characters standing motionless, awkwardly delivering some of the worst lines I've ever heard. Stiff, dull, and shallow is how I'd describe it.
2 has a grittier, realer feeling world. 1 has a bit of atmosphere 2 is missing, and better music, but the storytelling is dreadful.
I think you just don't like space opera man.
>For some reason, they steadily ditched the RPG elements they were good at for the shooter elements they only had practice with with Mass Effect.
Money. EA wanted money, lots of people who worked on the original stopped caring or outright left. Greed is a sin for a reason.
>Mass effect 2 is the best cover shooter ever made
>I have never played the game on any difficulty higher than easy where the only way to do well is to spam abilities
>KOTOR 1 above KOTOR 2
>God tier
>Ass effect
>The b***her 3 Plagarism Hunt
>Ultima Underworld
>troony New vegana
>Fallout 1
Yup /vrpg/ is still worse than Ganker
>hurr durr new vegas is le troony game meme
Typical Gankerermin
>Doesn't even deny it
Okay troon. Every single person that thinks FNV is the greatest game ever is somewhere on the path to 41%.
It's the midwit consoomer game. A poorly planned, shoddily designed game that benefited from being rushed because it didn't allow the naval gazing writers to fit enough dogshit to destroy it.
give it a fricking rest todd
3385779
>Mass Effect 3 an RPG and good
>Diablo an RPG
>Deus Ex and System Shock not RPGs
Bait; and ignore. You don't even deserve a (You)
Deus Ex and System Shock are immersive sim. I really like those games they would be God Tier if it wasn't for the fact that they are simply: Not a RPG. 🙂
Mass Effect 3 is a good game for sure, its just that ending that sucked, but the gameplay and the rest of the package was pretty solid.
Any questions and i will happily answer them, but dont expect immediate answers.
>immersive sim
Not a genre
It's a design philosophy that can be applied to different genre, for example thief is an action game, system shock 2, deus ex series are more rpg than action
>system shock 2, deus ex series are more rpg than action
no
you have a right to be wrong
Yeah VTMB has immersive sim elements and i still put it in RPG because its more RPG than immersive sim.
Thief for example has nothing RPG about it, and its a pure immersive sim stealth game.
SS2 is an immersive sim horror game
Deus Ex is the only one where you can do some arguments, but after i did many arguments i concluded it better stay in immersive sim, the game doesnt have leveling and rpg stats aside from perks and thats exactly like SS2 and Prey.
No need to be worried though Immersive sim is probably the best genre in gaming, there is no shame of being God Tier immersive sim, thats like the best of the best lol.
If we include any game with RPG elements then we will need to put God of War and Horizon and the new AC here, which makes things bloated. I rather differentiate, your point is true though.
>the game doesnt have leveling and rpg stats aside from perks and thats exactly like SS2 and Prey.
It has skill points, what are you talking about.
those genres aren't mutally exclusive
>I can't think of another game with more permutations of the story
Have you tried bargain bin CYOAs, you absolute prole?
Being a Dik has similar choice and consequence
I simply don't believe you.
Narrative reactivity is the lowest form of roleplaying.
Name the 3 highest then
>reactivity is the lowest form of roleplaying
According to whom?
I keep saying npcs repeat this.
Where did it come from? Is this one of those homosexual e-celeb things?
Hey wiseass, you missed a word in the greentext
>wiseass, you missed a word in
I quote what I like
Alpha Protocol is a lot better than Mass Effect, I'll say that. Very glitchy game though, typical Obsidian release.
Except the story is terrible and has a shit ending that ignores your choices and the combat is atrocious and only viable if you spec into pistol and it's "freeze time and shoot bosses 30x at triple the damage" perk. Aside from that though ... wait I'm right. It's NOT better than Mass Effect.
No, it's still better, even accounting for all that and more, like checkpoint bugs leading to save corruption or the horrible hacking minigame.
It's a soulslike player, you can ignore them.
I always felt like this game was one of the best wrpgs, and what other games SHOULD strive for, it was really under the radar, but it was badass. I liked the kill them all route and using the shotgun.
how can I download it?
use a browser
The reason why you dont see it often is because its too much work for writers.
Detroit is the last one I recall.
>Detroit is the last one I recall.
That's closer to being a VN than an RPG.
Hardly a VN either, more like a failed attempt at a moviegame, by someone who dropped out of their highschool drama class. David Cage is a hack in every sense of the word, only surpassed by failed hollywoke screenwriter Kneel Cuckman.
It is the best RPG yes.
Everything else falls short on the RP part.
Alpha Protocol does a great deal of reactivity but the dialogue system itself and the overall amount of choice is fairly limited. This idea of doing three personality archetypes combined with animated and fully voiced dialogue can lead to the character becoming schizophrenic if the player does not choose to play a one-sided character, which in turn renders the entire concept of choice and role playing obsolete. Future games can learn from AP how to create a great deal of reactivity with limited assets. AP mostly achieves reactivity by shifting player allegiances around, having the player visit the same locations but at times from different insertion points, with different allies, accomplishing different objectives, adding a lot of replayability at little cost. The game is masterfully made in that regard. I also liked the character design, which was unique but not completely over the top.
I love this game so much bros. I know it's broken, but I don't give a shit. It's a fun romp with a lot of replayability, I really think Obsidian should give this style another go. It was ahead of its time.
I don't think modern Obsidian could pull it off, nor would they ever try.
I will never forgive EA.
I was going to type out "electronic arts" but then I remembered that EA changed their name some years ago so that EA doesn't stand for anything anymore.