Is Toby Fox physically unable to stop winning?
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I don't get it what does this mean
Toby Fox introduced Sakurai to the localization company Sakurai now hires to translate his Youtube videos.
ok... and what does it have to do with anything? it adds nothing to namedrop some pedo.
schizo, take your meds
8-4 sucks ass though, so why is everyone praising this?
and?
he is bff with Sakurai
>tfw sakurai and toby fox are in regular contact and sakurai goes to toby fox for industry advice on localizers to use
this is getting too surreal
How did Undertale got popular in japan in the first place?
Pandering to them. All it takes is localization and making it so your work is appealing to them.
The same way as everywhere else. Ecelebs. Japanese let's players on NND played it with a translation patch in late 2016.
>translation patch
There you go. All you have to do is make something that could appeal to the Japanese, and go out of your way to translate it for them. From there it's just a matter of it actually being good enough to gain traction.
>and go out of your way to translate it for them
It was actually a fan translation patch. It wasn't officially localized until later. But again - the operative thing is really the ecelebs/let's players. The game is very easy to make content out of.
Japs fricking eat up quirky lolsorandum humor.
They also have shocking shit taste. I have no idea how they're able to make good anything.
any good from japan isn't made for japanese
yeah, because our sense of humor is supperior and 10x times more funny.
>procceds to mock ur tiny penis then fart at your direction
>AHAHAHA LITTLE GIRL PANTIES!
>I WENT TO THE BEACH BUT I'LL SCREAM KYYYAAAA IF ANYONE SEES ME IN A SWIMSUIT
*Everyone falls to the floor with their legs up*
And yet its more funny than
dont fricking act like we are bettet than them, if anything both of us deserve a nuke.
>did got
Feels good not being an ESL moron
now comes the part where you say "MUH EOP" like anyone cares about your streetshitter language lol
>>did got
ok spic
>got you
ok israelite
One of the reasons is actually that very localization company. English games often get pretty bad translations into Japanese but Undertale stood out as actually having a good one which helped it a lot.
Fan translations mostly starting with Korea it really blew up there then someone made a fan translation in Japanese and a lot of Japanese let's players made videos about it
fan translation, also very similar to all the media they consume
Other posters are giving you answers based on actual facts, but I'm going to go with my gut and say that it's because Undertale is inspired by Japanese media in the first place. There's something captivating about having your own culture reflected back at you by an outsider. I think this is part of why games by Kojima and Suda are appealing to the Americans who bother to try them.
Japanese people don't really see it that way. I don't know if you even have a point with guys like Kojima since historically his games have always been singled out as wacky Japanese games par excellence.
Tsushima another example.
i understand what you mean and my gut corroborates. similarly i believe its probably the reason so much of japans hardware and autos appeal to the west (specifically those who appreciate old american industry) - because those very same things were an attempt to mimmic with sincerity. toyota during the mid 90's had some of the most appealing and captivating designs and it still shows today, you dont get that feeling anymore when you look at modern cars
A) because saftey standards and market research have pacified car design
B) theres no SOVL anymore
disarm yourself, but teslas cybertruck and some of the japanese electric car concept designs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io_cqBj6pRE&ab_channel=AsianPetrolhead
are the standouts current of this lost honest flanderization that honors whats foriegn through the eyes of the local culture. whether or not they are designs that appeal to (You) the individual, the effect is strong on those who get that feeling of
>the designer knew
such that the japanese get with Toby Fox or americans to japanese consumer hardware
you would like reading holderlin.
it's a good game
I often wonder if japs really enjoy anime full of one joke characters and overused tropes where everyone acts like a brain damaged toddler.
If they do, that would explain why they like Undertale.
where do you think you're posting, anon
Japs love slap stick humor and they got it from early American cartoons
The Japanese only see the game as something that was inspired by them so theyike that. They don't don't understand western culture enough pick up on the part where indie homosexuals like Toby actually despise Japan and are trying to infiltrate it to force western values.
>They don't don't understand western culture enough pick up on the part where indie homosexuals like Toby actually despise Japan and are trying to infiltrate it to force western values.
Anon Toby is so much of a weeb he ran off to Japan first chance he could and barely ever interacts with people from the west anymore. Keep seething over him being successful though I guess.
So why does he shill BLM?
Because he's a hypocritical woke liberal, the only way anyone could ever shill for BLM is by being so isolated from the people affected by the issues concerned that they have no idea what they're actually advocating for
Undertale and Deltarune are one anime reference after another. If anything he's helping westoids get more acclimated to anime. Is it a coincidence that JRPGs suddenly have had a massive renaissance after years of stagnation?
Undertale barely has any anime references apart from the weeb dinosaur and Deltarune carries over that same character
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ShoutOut/Undertale
He literally references some obscure Japanese literature for the genocide checks of the homosexual guards. Those guards also have their sprites named bara internally
https://undertale.fandom.com/wiki/Royal_Guards
A fricking enemy called Tsunderplane.
He's confirmed that bullet patterns are inspired from Touhou. In fact, all the games he cited as having inspired him are Japanese.
Deltarune is basically an Isekai, The Poppup enemy outright uses Japanese phrases. Spamton speaks Japanese in an advertisement and his plush advertisement is also in Japanese.
Dude is absolutely doing his best to help turn westoids into weebs without making it too obvious.
the whole heart motif immediately reminded me of makai toushi saga
How the frick do you mentally ill homosexuals even function. Go outside, anon, you really need it.
>comparing Phil fricking Fish to Toby Fox
By ripping off actually good Japanese games like Cave Story, Live a Live and Earthbound. I'm honestly suprised he wasn't sued for plagiarism.
Oh go fricking blow yourself. Absolutely nothing Undertale does comes even close to plagiarism, you're just another clueless contrarian
Characters = ripped off from cave story
Gameplay = ripped off from mother
Music = ripped off from Live a Live and Medabots
i can confirm i was playing cave story the other day and sans the skeleton showed up this guy is legit
It's called a homage. Fans of those games who aren't election tourists seething over the most minor of characters are happy about those neglected games getting spiritual successors.
Have you played either Undertale or Cave Story? Because this argument sure doesn't sound like it.
Also the gameplay is only so much ripped off of Earthbound as any other turn-based combat with action components, like Barkley Shut Up And Jam or Paper Mario. In fact both of those are a whole lot closer to Earthbound than Undertale is
>Gameplay = ripped off from mother
Have you ever actually played an Earthbound game? I'm actually surprised more people didn't call you out on this
Cope.
Did gaster send you these comparisons
Toby didn't even design sans, a webcomic artist he liked did.
Holy shit bros I think Toby Fox is fricking CANCELLED it's OVER for him now that someone has posted someone bursting through a wall and going "Oh Yeah", he was CLEARLY stealing from cave story and nothing else.
Also, you have a good eye catching how Cave Story invented scientists asking for help.
>Alphy's physical design is just fricking John/Jane from homestuck (one of many "references" you could point out in the game)
>Most of her character aside from being a lesbian is just ripped from Francis in paper mario, was originally going to be even more like him but even he thought that would be too obvious plagariasm
>Loads of other actual things he pretty much just stole you could point out but instead you just go with visual similarities from a platformer for things even that didn't necessarily invent and wasn't unique for
>two games have a flower
>generic ass ghost design
>some dude has an eye that glows
>robots exist
>uhh I guess this goat looks similar to this goat (not really)
Man this is sad
Yeah and all games have names that are two words the first of which implies a dark underground place and the second of which indicates a story or a tale, that's just the standard!
>red flowers that turn you rabid are totally = to a sentient, homicidal flower that's a reincarnation of a dead prince
>Rabbit-like creatures = goat-like creatures
>Nerdy, tumblr weeb scientist = old, wise head scientist
>Skeleton with one glowing eye judging and trying to stop the protagonist for their sins = evil warlock with a red and white eye who wants to destroy all life on an island
>Anon has never drank Kool-Aid
>Ghost = to whatever the frick those things are supposed to be based off of
Did moomin ripped off Undratele?!!
mother ripoff they love that shit
It's not.
It sold like 100,000 units, and a big portion of that was westerners living in Japan at the time.
>search about those so called 100k units
>it was in 2018, before the physical release
>this number was the digital sales of the ps4 and vita version
Try a bigger bait.
There were at least two separate fan events full of nerch by doujin artists, and at least 3 concerts for various remix albums last I recall. There's literally hundreds of fanbooks available at this point.
Honestly a lot of the humor in Undertale wouldn't be out of place in a Dragon Quest game.
>monster girls and boys, the game
are you for serious?
Because it checks a lot of boxes
>RPG that also makes references about the genre
>A bit of Mother, Touhou and Cave Story influence
>Sans and Papyrus are like a manzai duo
>most gags are like "this character is weird and dumb, how funny, normal people aren't like that"
>three types of female characters: shy otaku, mommy and shark teeth brute.
>final boss is that japanese trope where the villain becomes god, lots of spiritual stuff about souls too
Japan just loves Earthbound-like games. Same reason why Omori became quite popular in Japan despite being a western game.
The game was actually cute and fun.
>cute and fun
Anon, you are describing OneShot, not Undertale you silly goose!
>earthbound rip-off
wow i cant imagine why buddy truly i have no clue
Undertale took off because it was a charming little western take on the stereotypical JRPG full of writing and meta subversions all while staying true to those JRPG tropes (the power of friendship, but thou must, etc.).
Toby recognized this and made damn well sure to pay his due respects by getting a localization team that could not only preserve the charm, but also add or recontextualize it to suit the Japanese script even better, causing an even stronger gravitational pull.
Vtubers
It is something that many developers and people in general have forgotten.
It is fun and not ashamed of it. It doesn't go post-ironic route or such. When it wants to be funny, it is funny. When it wants to be sad, it is sad. When it wants to be epic, it is epic.
In all honesty, what I would compare to it in some sense would be Gintama.
I honestly miss fun. There are only few things that dare to just be good time and also have variety. There aren't much games that have characters, themes, and emotions like Undertale/Deltarune has at the same time. For example, I don't remember last time when a game had me laugh, be in awe, and scared like Deltarune Ch.2 did. Toby knows his shit and has a good team.
He is also clearly a guy who doesn't let it get into his head too much but understands his influence and position. I don't want to sound like I'm jerking him off, but he is doing stuff pretty well and I would be happy to be in his shoes. Tho I dunno what his personal life is like.
NONE OF THE RELIERS ACTULLY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED
It's really simple, a Mega Celebrity brought up how she liked Undertale, and from then the Japanese fandom exploded and it became a household name. I can't remember exactly who, but I'm pretty sure it was a female relative of the Emperor.
So, it's like if the Queen got really into 3rd Strike, of course Brits would have a massive Third Strike scene.
anon the queen is dead you have to say the king now
Shit taste really.
Consider that dragon quest, a game that is the worst type of bastardization of tabletop games (including 5e D&D) is actually a popular genre.
didn't the Japs hate the official JP translation for making controversial changes to character personalities? IIRC there was an unofficial translation patch and they like that one way better or something
japs already hate you for calling them japs
we aren't talking about me, we're talking about 8-4's shitty job
Okay, elevens.
No? The only major change I can even think of was giving Sans a farmer accent and they made shit loads of fanart about it. The Japanese love Undertale
the only thing some people had a problem with was Sans using "oira" (a hillbilly stereotype) as his first-person pronoun. In unofficial fan translations people had been arguing over whether "ore" or "boku" was more appropriate for his character so having a third unexpected option being chosen as the official one surprised people.
Yes, some people prefer the fantranslation because it's considered to be more faithful compared to the official translation which is more localized.
>"but he doesn't know Japanese"
>lives in Japan
Are these people idiots?
A lot of morons stay long-time in countries they have no idea what the main demographic around them is saying. Luckily the dog isn't that stupid.
More likely than you think.
Bro, they're not that different from us
he had barely started learning Japanese when that translation came out
raymoo 4 smash
all according to cake
Didn't know that fricker liked Orval, might as well come at the French border to visit the brewery and monastery
sake*
What is toby fox's end game
>Another Troony Fox thread
How does he do it lads? He makes Ganker seethe uncontrollably while gaining more and more success. It's inspiring.
Regular BLM donations and boot licking keep him invigorated
>He makes Ganker seethe
Who what and where? What alternate dimension do you live in where that is the case. Fricker gets nothing but praise.
What? Ive never seen Ganker seethe at Toby.
They seethe at the things he makes because of shitty combinations of homestuck and persona homosexualry.
But Toby himself ive seen pretty much positive from Ganker for being a vidya designer who not only made it big, but isnt being a total c**t about it.
>But Toby himself ive seen pretty much positive from Ganker
Not really. I recall watching th Japan Indie Live Expo and Ganker posts and threads were mostly enjoying it until Toby appeared and killed the mood with a BLM speech leading to the threads ripping him apart.
Super cringe, Toby.
It was a Japanese event too so the Japanese hosts just kind of sat there awkwardly as he talked about foreign social issues. Luckily soon after he finished Zun showed up drunk with a drink in hand being cheerful and brought up the mood.
source?
>he doesn't know
>isnt being a total c**t about it.
He used his 1M following of kids he made on vidya to shill the grifter organization BLM, he's as much c**t as it's possible to be
Most creators have shouted out a stupid sponsor at least once.
Imagine equating shilling a terrorist organization for free with shouting out a sponsor because you just can't help but worship an eceleb fricking lmao
You must live like a hermit then since the majority of companies have shouted out in support of BLM even if just as a meaningless platitude. Most people aren't schizophrenic poltards.
And yet the argument was about solo guys who made it big in vidya and not big soulless global corporations you fricking moron. You're saying a solo dev acting exactly like a soulless corporations isn't selling out or being a c**t?
Ok yeah, he sold out once. I think that guy was saying he hasn't been outright negative like saying republicans are the devil or anything like that or getting a hot head and bragging about how successful he was.
Jesus are you people STILL whining about BLMs?
Go back
Move on already.
Return to wherever you came from
I'm sorry that you racists got BTFO but it's time to get over and move onto the next thing. This is why no one ever takes you idiots seriously.
Adjust your trajectory to the course behind you
not sure if trolling or actually moronic, either way here is your last (you) before you go back
>go back go back go back
I don't know why you people parrot this stuff so often. It's not 2010 anymore. Ganker is mainstream and Ganker is side-outpost of /misc/ now. If anything it's time for you guys to move on
That's cool and all but you should stop posting here and start posting on the website you're originally from
>ugh people are still whining about racial subjugation propaganda??? ugh
Dude just forget about how black were used to take over your countries with Maoist cultural revolutions
Literally has nothing to do with BLMs
>It’s been 2+ years just forget about how BLM was a Maoist cultural revolution!!
No.
Whenever someone argues “just go along with it” “just forget about it” you know they are a moron. Especially now there is no excuse as people continue to maim themselves with vaccines.
okay troony
cope and seethe Black person
arrest yourself and go to bed autist.
Ganker seethes at most things so that's not an impressive feat
>best buds with sakurai
>impregnating houshou marine's dusty womb
>actually becoming japanese
Living the dream.
HWNBJ
They've accepted him as an honorary Japanese, he won
Just because women accepted you as one of them doesn't make you one
Women decide who is accepted and not.
Men just follow later.
Go back
Thats just how society works.
Women choose who is allowed to be part of the in group and who is in the out group.
Men follow the social paradigms set by women.
So if women decided with a consensus that a dog is actually a woman you would genuinely seriously and unironically agree that the dog in front of you is actually a woman?
Within some time most men around would come to accept that, yeah.
Thats how it goes.
Thank you for outing yourself as mentally ill
You saw it happen with homosexuals within your life time.
You're seeing it happen with transsexuals right now.
Before that it was racial minorities.
Before that it was religious minorities.
Women accept the outgroup, men follow.
It always happens that way.
>men
those are soibois (weak homosexuals), If you can't dominate a female you are nothing
Then every man in the last 2 centuries was nothing.
There is no pretending.
Thats how the world works. Simple as.
Yeah, no one has gassed the oligarchs yet
Again, thank you for outing yourself as a mentally ill commie, it makes my job much easier
You don't even work.
Painfully ironic projection commie
Calling me a commie because you're too autistic to have a grasp of social dynamics is a 'you problem'.
Learn how humans work before trying to have a discussion about them online.
Its incredibly irritating to have to talk to people that have no grasp on the systems of society or interacting with them.
Saying that reality is what you terrorize people into believing and not the objective state of things is the commie MO, enjoy your stacked supermarket shelves comrade, who says they're empty?
Acceptance is socially determined.
And determined by women, and then adopted by men.
If you cannot grasp this, you're not fit for society.
And accepting a dog as a woman does not make it a woman, if you can't grasp this you're not fit for life
It does socially, and social reality is what makes the world run.
Ok commie, enjoy your well stocked supermarket
>everyone is a mentally ill deluded troony, just like me!
And just because people pretend it's true that makes it objectively true, right
Joke's on you he's enjoying all the aspects of being Japanese without having to contort to their moronic societal norms and pressure. He's living the fricking dream.
>subverting a country
He is truly living the israeli dream
A gaijin cannot by definition enjoy the positive aspects of being Japanese, to them he is a useful idiot to tolerate because he brings a tiny economic contribution to his locale by paying taxes on his wealth and spending money he makes internationally in Japan
>enjoying all the aspects of being Japanese
He is not and will never will be Japanese. His BLM speech at the indie expo even further proves how different he is from the locals. He's a perma-tourist.
houshou marine's dusty womb
Wait what? Did he meet Marine or something? Never heard of that
NTA but I heard that he actually personally DMed Marine answering a question she asked in one of her playthroughs and she gushed over it.
He also should've added that he managed to meet one of his childhood idols, ZUN, and became best friends with him too.
8-4 are soulless passionless hacks
>professionals recommend professionals other professionals for work they need done
whoa stop the presses. This happens in literally every industry
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
Can’t wait until Nintendo starts accepting trannies as developers because of Toby Fox.
cant wait for skeleton dude to be playable in smash brothers and not a mii costume
if toby fox is so "talented" why is deltarune a piece of shit?
It's incredible, everything in this screenshot is irritating
Masahiro Sakurai, the man who ran Smash Bros into the ground by turning what was once a fun crossover game into a popularity contest where brands are blessed by Nintendo asked Toby fox, the guy who created the most annoyingly infuriating fanbase to ever exist on the internet for someone to localise his pointless rambling and they picked 8-4, a company that spends all their time bragging on the internet how good they are while censoring and butchering any game they touch
If theres a smash 6 then im legitimately expecting a character from undertale and maybe deltarune content too
Theres no way it wouldnt happen
8-4 fricking sucks
He really likes Toby doesn't he
Toby oozes charisma
People truly do not realize how fricked the industry has become due to Toby.
Thanks to Toby, now new indie developers can take their sweet ass time with their games, to the point where its comical. Undertale was delayed by over a year, Deltarune's deadline is coming up this New Years and will be overdue by at least 2.5 years.
Toby Fox went from being an edgy teenager browsing site forums to a super secretive potential troony, deleted every single post from when he was younger on sites like Starmen, and even has violated copyright laws, both with allowing fan mods for Undertale (violation of GameMaker ToS), as well as ordering takedowns on people who use videos with his face in it (because he's too fricking insecure).
This also demonstrates that a developer can now take their sweet ass time making an absolutely mediocre game, code it all around a political message, and that's just good enough for most newbies these days. It has completely fricked over all indie devs, because now corporations are going to use him as an example to rate other morons, rather than judging on a case-by-case basis.
Toby Fox and his shit games have done nothing but harm to indie games. I cannot say I've played any good indie games or even seen a good indie RPG after Undertale released. Toby was not the reason why GameMaker got on Switch, there are far more games than just Undertale than warranted a console release.
These homosexuals need to be put into their place.
to Toby, now new indie developers can take their sweet ass time with their games, to the point where its comical.
That is not because of Toby that's been a thing since Kickstarter
>Thanks to Toby, now new indie developers can take their sweet ass time with their games, to the point where its comical.
The only thing comical is that you actually believe this. You are either mentally defective or underage.
Everytime you Undergays get criticized, you can only respond in the form of a buzzword or some other bullshit because (You) are too autistic to use more than 5 braincells at a time.
It doesn't change the fact its a shit game, and you'll be disappointed when Deltarune releases if you actually care for a good vidya to play. Take your troony pandering shit off this board.
You got owned
> you can only respond in the form of a buzzword
>Take your troony pandering shit off this board.
ISHYGDDT
"I Sure Hope You Get Dicked Dumb Tard"?
Why thank you Anon.
kek i thought i was a newbie
I don't use slang Anon.
it's chan lingo so common I saw it being used on other forums at the time
When though Anon?
I keep to myself most of the time, and only actively posted for about 2 years.
>the guy seething at toby is a newbie tourist
Many such cases.
I don't know what it is about Toby that makes these people out themselves but it's some sort of 4D chess
have a nice day newbie trash
Andrew? Andrew Hussie? Is that you?
Andrew, I can't and won't make this any simpler for you.
You failed at life. You failed. When one thinks of what man is capable of, pushing himself to the limits physically, mentally and emotionally to achieve heights of success never before mentioned, your name will not be whispered in the same, reverent fashion that others have.
Nobody will remember Andrew Hussie. You aren't even a header or a footer in the career of someone else. You are nobody. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.
In short, you are an enormous failure.
Andrew, being that you're about 40 years old and your brain has probably hard-wired itself to accept such failures by now and write off such criticism by being "flippant", really suggests that you've passed beyond the proverbial breaking-point. There's no turning back. This is your career, this is what defines you and this is what you'll defend to the end.
The abhorrent failure that is MS Paint Adventures, Andrew Hussie, that is your legacy.
Maybe I'm over-reaching, however. Who knows? People CAN change. Maybe you'll read this, Andrew, and think long and hard about what a wasteful life you've led. Maybe you'll think, "wow. It's incredible just how abysmal and pathetic I really AM!" Maybe you'll lift some weights in the morning. Maybe you'll take a self-help class.
Maybe in a couple of years, Andrew, you'll have learned from this failure. I doubt it, though.
I genuinely doubt it.
Now excuse me, I have to work on Deltarune. My accountant estimates over sixty million dollars in sales.
You're delusional if you think undertale's fame will last forever.
Nobody said that undertale will be popular forever.
I say this as someone posting on a Siberia yak herding board, but you need to get a fricking life.
Andrew? Andrew Hussie? Is that you?
Andrew, I can't and won't make this any simpler for you.
You failed at life. You failed. When one thinks of what man is capable of, pushing himself to the limits physically, mentally and emotionally to achieve heights of success never before mentioned, your name will not be whispered in the same, reverent fashion that others have.
Nobody will remember Andrew Hussie. You aren't even a header or a footer in the career of someone else. You are nobody. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.
In short, you are an enormous failure.
Andrew, being that you're about 40 years old and your brain has probably hard-wired itself to accept such failures by now and write off such criticism by being "flippant", really suggests that you've passed beyond the proverbial breaking-point. There's no turning back. This is your career, this is what defines you and this is what you'll defend to the end.
The abhorrent failure that is MS Paint Adventures, Andrew Hussie, that is your legacy.
Maybe I'm over-reaching, however. Who knows? People CAN change. Maybe you'll read this, Andrew, and think long and hard about what a wasteful life you've led. Maybe you'll think, "wow. It's incredible just how abysmal and pathetic I really AM!" Maybe you'll lift some weights in the morning. Maybe you'll take a self-help class.
Maybe in a couple of years, Andrew, you'll have learned from this failure. I doubt it, though.
I genuinely doubt it.
Now excuse me, I have to work on Deltarune. My accountant estimates over sixty million dollars in sales.
explain Stardew Valley then
Finally someone says it.
>samegayging
>Toby becomes friends with ZUN
>Touhou Gacha game is made
>Toby joins GameFreak
>Gen 8 of Pokemon happens
what the actual frick
>>Gen 8 of Pokemon happens
You say this like it wouldn't have happened anyway
I’m talking about how disasterous it is. First Gen in all Pokemon to not include all previous Gen Pokemon, all previous moves, no connectivety between non-paired game because of Dexit, being incomplete messes, and despite SWSH’s poor quality BDSP manages to be genuinely one of the worst games in all of game, definitely the single worst remake in all of gaming as well.
>potential troony
take meds
>muh violation of gamemaker ToS
who cares
>political message
what political message you fricking moron? "killing is le bad" isn't political
>I cannot say I've played any good indie games [...] after Undertale released
hollow knight, factorio, darkest dungeon and outer wilds, some of the most acclaimed indie games of all time came after undertale
>Indie game
>Factorio
As a moron with about 700 hours into the game I don't disagree with the fact that it's good, but it feels odd to classify it as an indie game especially next to DD and HK. Both of which are dope as well.
>thanks some rando makin a game for fun, everything's fricked
yeah definitely not the aaa companies putting out slop noo
have a nice day shill
>Thanks to Toby, now new indie developers can take their sweet ass time with their games,
This was already the case before Toby. Hell, Notch was notoriously hated by old Ganker because he was lazy as frick with his schedules. Indies were hated because of their shitty early access dogshit, the only difference is that people like Toby made it clear you had to prove yourself before pulling off that shit and had to prove you could deliver quality. It's arguably far better now than it was back then.
>Deltarune's deadline is coming up this New Years and will be overdue by at least 2.5 years.
What "deadline"? The game didn't start serious development with a full team until 2019-2020. The initial 2016-2019 dev phase was a mere pre-production proof-of-concept demo at best.
>Toby Fox went from being an edgy teenager browsing site forums to a super secretive potential troony
Citation needed.
>and even has violated copyright laws, both with allowing fan mods for Undertale
Muh copyright law. Shut the frick up. Copyright law was invented by trannies at Shitney
> as well as ordering takedowns on people who use videos with his face in it
Publically showing your face and allowing depictions of your face to circulate online is a sign of attention whoring homosexualry. It has always been that case since the early 2000s. This self-image nonsense is the reason why trannies became so mainstream frick that gay shit.
>I cannot say I've played any good indie games or even seen a good indie RPG after Undertale released.
Bullshit. Also indie games had just as much dogshit back then as it did now.
>code it all around a political message
What political fricking message?
This is the same shit as lefties who try to gotcha by claiming that Mario is political. Frick that shit. If it has a political message then so does every game, but that also means 90% of what is published isn't worth critical scrutiny unless it's Dostoevsky tier. Period. Either apply those standards or shut the frick up.
>I cannot say I've played any good indie games or even seen a good indie RPG after Undertale released
I don't care about the rest of what you said. Toby's a moron, his fanatical asslickers are giga morons, but what the frick man.
You have autism
>allowing fan mods for Undertale (violation of GameMaker ToS)
Only the demo was made in Gamemaker.
Both Undertale and Deltarune are Game Maker games, but to say anything about them violates the ToS is plain bullshit.
Is this the same moron that cried about the Undertale soundtrack being slightly different from the in-game version, and tried to say it was a conspiracy by Toby to get more sales of the soundtrack?
Ever noticed how much more pozzed Japanese media became after it got popular over there?
Literally more fanservice anime came out lol. You're mentally ill.
Indie Devs having terrible time budgets and going way over deadlines is as old as the entire system.
nownu.ru
>as well as ordering takedowns on people who use videos with his face in it (because he's too fricking insecure).
You tried this already and the tweet you paraded around as proof said the exact fricking opposite of what you claimed, and still you try to pretend you were right.
HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WEEGEE?!?!!??!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!!??!?!?
can't wait for the shitstorm once they find out he's a pedophile.
That's celebrated in Japan tho?
UT was always just a massive anime parody and the homosexualry in it are just cheeky references to bara/yuri shit but election has mindfricked people so much that they unironically start seething at shit they wouldn't have given a shit about back in the day.
Besides the election tourists who immigrated here purely because they were poltard refugees rejected from every other site.
you'd think you schizos would love getting represented in DR.
Yeah don't use "slang" he won't understand
Sakurai is a moronic hack but i do have to admit the way toby has managed to become so relevant in such a short time with only one game is extremely impressive.
Sakurai? Masahiro Sakurai? Is that you?
Sakurai, I can't and won't make this any simpler for you.
You succeed at life. You won. When one thinks of what man is capable of, pushing himself to the limits physically, mentally and emotionally to achieve heights of success never before mentioned, your name will be whispered in the same, reverent fashion that others have.
Everybody will remember Masahiro Sakurai. You are even a header or a footer in the career of your own. You are everybody. Something. Boom. Bang.
In short, you are an enormous success.
Sakurai, being that you're about 60 years old and your brain has probably hard-wired itself to accept such success by now and write off such praise by being "flippant", really suggests that you've passed beyond the proverbial breaking-point. There's no turning back. This is your career, this is what defines you and this is what you'll defend to the end.
The legendary success that is the Smash Bros. series, Masahiro Sakurai, that is your legacy.
Maybe I'm over-reaching, however. Who knows? People CAN change. Maybe you'll read this, Sakurai, and think long and hard about what a successful life you've led. Maybe you'll think, "wow. It's incredible just how successful and rich I really AM!" Maybe you'll drink some Coke Zero in the morning. Maybe you'll make a successful youtube channel.
Maybe in a couple of years, Sakurai, you'll have learned from this success. I assure it, though.
I genuinely assure it.
Now excuse me, I have to work on Deltarune chapter 3, 4, and 5. My accountant estimates over sixty million dollars in sales.
>8-4
>Xe
>Xem
What in the absolute frick. Did they make Kris into a guy like he's supposed to be in the Japanese release?
>tourist
Nah. I may have been here only for 5 years (frick its already been that long), but in the time I posted I got involved in a lot of tomfrickery.
If you think this is bad, the people posting in Deltarune threads have been on the site even less time. The chan culture has been eroded for a long time.
>im not a newbie, ive been here since 2017!
Classic tourist behavior. Please have a nice day.
I never said I wasn't a newbie, tard. You can keep up your little "tourist" bullshit meme, but the fact of the matter is just about everybody posting on Ganker and Ganker as a whole is post Summer 2007, and this applies to Deltatroon threads the most.
troony
being a newbie and being a tourist are two different things
>le newbie argument
Nobody who browses Deltatroon threads found out about the game on Ganker or primarily or exclusively use Ganker. Take your baseless moronation somewhere else, homosexuals.
We're all newbies here.
yeah but i'm not a tourist like you
Everyone who came to this website after 2015 should be permabanned.
concession accepted
You genuinely don't belong here and should leave. You are the cancer that has been killing this website for at least 6 years.
You are literally a fricking election tourist off by a year frick off back to your containment board or reddit
Why are tourists so obsessed with trannies?
Several of the characters in both Undertale and Deltarune are trannies.
Toby Fox himself is thought to be a troony and the people he hired to help him work on Deltarune are trannies.
Please get help for your sick obsession.
I'd rather die standing than live kneeling.
Hell yeah, thin blue line brothER
Go get the rope then.
Literally none of the characters are trannies lmao. The BS that the ghosts are analogues to trannies are made up by trannies themselves. There are two gay couples in each game but they're incredibly minor in the grand scheme of things. Nobody would've frothed at the mouth at them before you election tourists came.
>What the frick did you just say about me you little shit? I'll have you know-
btw you're frickin dead, kiddo
anyone that arrived between 2008 and 2012 was a newbie, what came after is even worse, a nugay, arriving here post 2016 makes you an election tourist, simple as
people really should've gatekept harder and made nugay a term instead of using newbie for anyone that arrived after 08, there's a collosal difference between people that came here in 08 and people that came here post 2016
>came here 2018
>from a shitty Ganker YouTuber
If I knew what the frick forums were I would have been here sooner ffs. I didn't know what an album was till I was 20
>the marty from lisa avatargay was a literal giganewbie
holy shit KWAB
SHIGGY
DIGGY
DOO
>xe
>xem
>""""trans""""lators
transdilators
what the frick am I reading
What troonylators do if they aren't slapped down.
Xe, the nonbinary.
left looks like normal game dialogue. i refuse to believe right was ever a real translation that was ever seriously considered for professional publication. it looks like a 75 IQ mental illness troony-slation. even without the troonyshit it's just low quality and has grammar errors.
Xe did a really good job, my fursona is so proud of xem.
How does a company put this out?
Seriously, I know that translation companies are notoriously ran fairly slapshod but this is beyond the pale.
I hated both the original and the retranslation for the opposite reasons.
Guy seems solid. His games are okay. He's not an indie dev who became Phil Fish or Yiik tier so I respect him for that. He did strike told and a lot of developers seem tremendously jealous about that.
The people who obsessively suck him off on here are pathetic ngmi devs who live vicariously through his success. Or anons false flagging and baiting.
The people who obsessively hate him aren't devs, but election tourists with culture war brainrot who don't even fricking play games let alone make them. Or also anons false flagging and baiting.
If you don't have aspergers it's actually very easy to avoid joining either of these groups. When people aren't shitposting you see pretty balanced opinions on Undertale and Toby. He's an indie dev who made a successful game. That's it. Not an unparallelled genius, but not a hack either.
We know Japan loves Undertale. He's already worked with Sakurai anyways with that Sans Mii fighter. Toby is notch if he wasn't a homosexual. He got big success already but is still doing things.
>Toby is notch if he wasn't a homosexual
I have never heard a post more wrong.
He's not a one hit wonder so he's not a homosexual. What's wrong about that statement. Notch was going to do a followup after he got the paycheck but hasn't done jack shit.
>Toby is a literal dyke worshipper
>Toby supports trannies, actively works with them, and inserts it into the game
>One of the main messages with Undertale has to do with all of this
vs
>Notch not wanting to work with trannies, denouncing them
>stating there should be a straight pride day/month
>hating what his own game has become
Toby is the literal definition of a homosexual lover.
ok, well I meant homosexual as loser and not homo. Yeah Toby is inclusive and Notch is an incel.
I understand what you mean, this is just an instance where homosexual as a general term doesn’t work well.
fair enough. homo(nyms) an all.
>Notch not wanting to work with trannies, denouncing them
Except he advocated for non-binaries and removed Steve's beard to make him more gender-neutral. It's only after he got rich and lonely that he did a 180. Before he borderline said on his blog several times that he denounces bigots.
Yes, that was during a time where he needed to appeal to the cultural regime of the games industry to not get strangled to death. Once he was given frick-you money he could air out his true opinions, becoming mostly immune to targeted impoverishing through cancellation. If you want to see a man's true face, give him a billion dollars.
>Yes, that was during a time where he needed to appeal to the cultural regime of the games industry to not get strangled to death.
Except this was 2009-2012, way back when non-binaries were barely a thing and trannies were still mocked in popular media.
Yes, back when those factions were ascendant but not yet dominant. The wheels of the cultural revolution keep on turning, and the sin of bigotry is applied retroactively. You wouldn't want to demean an ascendant faction to your left lest you be strung up in 5 years time.
You do know that Fox made this right
I did not, but if this is the only thing Toby wrote that is "oof yikes" then people can just chalk it up to adolescent 2000s edginess. The character there also looks like an antagonist of some sort, so having the "enemy" be offensive doesn't count much.
Well yeah, during that time, NB and trannies were an exclusively tumblr thing and only developed in the deepest regions of academia. It had unironic supporters that were just ahead of the curve. But I think I'll concede the argument that Notch did a 180, he might've soured on the ideology after it flew past him and turned into a "TERF", and later that just progressed into anti-progressive liberalism.
>Well yeah, during that time, NB and trannies were an exclusively tumblr thing and only developed in the deepest regions of academia.
That is true. It did exist, but it wasn't part of the mainstream movement.
>he might've soured on the ideology after it flew past him
That's what I think is possible. That's what happened to a lot of progressivists of that era, although arguably Notch was more centre-progressive. But still.
>I did not, but if this is the only thing Toby wrote that is "oof yikes" then people can just chalk it up to adolescent 2000s edginess. The character there also looks like an antagonist of some sort, so having the "enemy" be offensive doesn't count much.
Iirc, there's a lot more stuff in that ROM hack that could be considered offensive. I haven't played it in a while, but I distinctly remembered seeing a lot of things that would make the average Twitter troony seethe.
>Yes, back when those factions were ascendant but not yet dominant.
Bullshit.
Back in 2009-2012, the idea of defending trannies and non-binaries was so fricking rare that even feminists of that era openly mocked them. Hell the troony/nb boom happened in 2015-2016 as a consequence of feminists, not as a pre-planned concept. Hell the concept itself was a contradiction of a lot of the rhetoric of early 2010 feminists, which is why a lot of them became TERFs and are now being treated like Nazis by the new leftists. Which was honestly really funny to see. Hell, back when GG broke out, I remember a lot of feminists insulting trannies, shit was pretty funny in retrospect.
Notch made the most popular gamecof all time whily Fox made some gay indie pixelshit nobody outside of Tumblr ever heard about you dickless, crossdressing weirdo.
Sakurai seems to care.
Sakurai never made a good game either. Only sweaty autistic american manchildren and literal kids care about smash.
>nobody likes smash bros or undertale
holy fricking cope
Trannies on Ganker greatly exaggerate the popularity of Tumblrtale. Personally I have never met a single person in Europe who plays Tumblrtale or Smash, or even knows wtf those things are
Are you a commie?
My political orientation hasn't been invented yet and it has nothing to do with the fact that Tumblrtale is nowhere as popular as you people claim. Meanwhile everyone and their grandma know what Minecraft is.
No, it's because Nintendo is extremely popular in all the major European countries. You sound like you're either in some Eastern European shithole or a Ruble Head where they're one of the few places to not get official Nintendo consoles so they compensate with pirated PC games and counter-strike.
meds
i just dont get why you think so much about other people's genitals and what they do with them
>Europe
Nobody in Europe plays vidya
Europeans invented the three most popular games ever made: Grand Theft Auto, Minecraft and Tetris. Toby Fox invented uuuuhh nothing he just ripped off popular Japanese games.
notch literally ripped off infiniminer
>Europeans invent-
No. Americans and Japanese did.
Yout post doesn't even make any sense you braindead mutt
>Yout post
Dumb third world esl
Just a mere concidence, arrest.
and now he's been denounced by Minecraft his own creation. He sold out and is a sad sack of shit.
Minecraft isn't a sentient being you schizo
really weird that sakurai wouldn't have 8-4's info when he fricking works with namco on smash forever. namco used 8-4 to localize multiple jrpgs.
Undertale is fricking shit. That is all.
I like toby fox a lot but he's not the best dev ever or anything. This guy is definitely living in "his era" though. His success comes from bridging certain gaps between cultures. A lot of people who don't play video games can enjoy his work which fills certain niches other people have wanted filled but almost every dev didn't grasp. if Toby didn't make games he might've tried comics. You wont see the same kind of success any time soon because he's already king of the niche he fills. At worst 10 years from now toby will fall off and someone else who feels like a spiritual successor will come along.
Toby made a bunch of billionaires wonder why their shitty games weren't as popular as his $10 game he made with some help from his friends. That's what happened.
I can't believe toby is turning people here into a bunch of schizos just because he's literally living their dream.
>be stared at by countless fans
>make a bunch of music
>talk to Jap game devs
>be rich
This is a solid B ending for me. I love making music, but I don't think I would like my life to being a game dev mainly. This path would get an S if I became some billionaire real estate God, and I retire at my farm while I get my company to give me money. That would be awesome way to die
I feel like half of this thread is just some schizo making up baseless claims about him and hoping some allegation goes through to ruin him socially and financially. I guess some people get envious easily or something?
I feel like 80% of all UT/DR threads are Tumblr kids worshipping their eceleb daddy hoping he'll one day piss on them as thanks for defending him online and shilling his products for free
I guess if you ignore the discussion threads than sure anon, these threads only exist to fellate Toby and you're actually not delusional for seeing him as the anti-christ of indie games.
t. was never in a UT/DR thread
Every single post that's been made in Deltarune threads were all literally me.
You're telling me posts like these aren't standard
Or shit like "whoaaa that one pixel on that one website has deepest spamton lore how does toby do it????" or "toby makes the most frickable goats", you're severely lacking in self-awareness
No they actually discuss the game and theorize or thirst over Susie, the only time they mention Toby is when he makes a twitter post giving an update on production information for future chapters. You on the other hand, appear very obsessed over both Toby and his game for no reason.
So completely lacking in self-awareness, got it
these posts are standard in threads about toby fox, not in threads about undertale/deltarune
Are you telling me the recent charity drive threads weren't full of shit like that
TALENT ISN'T A 1 DIMENSIONAL THING: it's not "I have talent/I don't", it's a unique approach/skillset you have that is suited more or less at stuff.
Saying "I'm a loser with no talent" is like a fish complaining about being unable to climb a hill.
>inb4 "here's my standards of success"
I'm not saying everyone could be the best, or make billions. I am saying that anyone could be good/intermediate at anything, and what type of good is dependent on their talent. Picasso and Toryiama are both talented artists, but their talented for different reasons
Toby was born with the unique talent called "sucking Hussie's dick in exchange for a bed in his basement and shilling of his music"
You jest but that is indeed a talent. There's countless artists, but few are good at marketing themselves. I recently got paid 300$ to make an OST: my friend who taught me music and was doing it for 6 years, hasn't gotten one cent
Being able to not only have a hit but keep that hit going is an impressive feat, even if the game's quality is poor
There's a difference between "marketing yourself" and having a celeb/eceleb propel you to stardom by association
But Toby was instrumental in HS' success. It wouldn't have gotten where it did without the music.
lol
lmao
You might seethe about it, but I am correct. Toby participated in a big project and used that later on. That's how the world works. If I worked in the team for a popular product it would be excellent material for me to put in my resume and get a good job later. Toby proved he could deliver a good work and people reacted to that.
Participated != being instrumental to the success
Did you miss the joke? Instrumental.
He was the fricking composer. But anyway, I don't believe HS would've gotten where it did without Toby's music. For real.
Yeah I should just ignore the half of your post in which you reaffirmed you think Toby was vital to Homestuck's success LMAO
But he was. As I said: while HS would.still be a hit, it wouldn't be the absolute cultural phenomenon that it is today without Toby's music. I will not budge on this point.
see
Who cares? My couch is comfy and I have food.
Talent may not be one-dimensional, you can be talented on many different axes, that's true. But just because you are not talented at one thing doesn't mean that you are talented in something else. You can be lucky and be talented in several things at once, or you can be unlucky and be talented in nothing. When most people talk about "talent" in that single-axis way, what they actually mean is possession of talent in anything, when compared to no talent, no matter the distribution. The idea that there's something for everyone is a false egalitarian construct. Some people are just better than others, and just because someone is better at something than you doesn't mean that there's something in you that is better than their equivalent. Life isn't an RPG point buy system, if you were to tally up every person's positive and negative qualities into a numbered score, you'd get wildly different results. You could just be garbage and not useful for anything, part of the natural underclass. You could be good at many things or really good at one thing, making you a valued person.
Talent is real, natural hierarchies are real.
Maybe some people are just really talented at being untalented
Talents are supposed to provide benefits. Otherwise they're disabilities.
>dude you can make friends with anyone, violence is never necessary
>if you ever resort to violence, you're evil
it really is the perfect message for people with crippling autism I guess
the game doesn't say that
And the evil route is completely based where the whole world and story is changed and you get exclusive bosses and music.
>dude you can make friends with anyone, violence is never necessary
The main antagonist is literally someone that rejects this message time after time
>If you ever resort to violence, you're evil
If you resort to genocide yeah the game tells you this and makes you the antagonist otherwise if you kill some random npc almost nobody will care
The neutral route is the only one you are expected to get on your first playthrough. You have to go out of your way to get the pacifist or genocide route.
the final boss in Undertale literally tells you that there are tons of psychopaths out in the world who can’t be reasoned with. Its explained too that all the cute shit you do to win over monsters, like flirting or singing or whatever clearly wont work on humans outside of the Underground
The point is the message and the message is just ‘its better to works things out peacefully whenever possible’
How can you be this filtered by a fricking indie game
As I said, you poltard schizos should love DR. It has a whole class of schizo characters just like you guys and they're incredibly memorable as relatively challenging superbosses.
There's also an evil route where you get to emotionally abuse and coerce your childhood friend into being your housewife minion. It would be right up your alley.
>Wait a minute, is that guy just like me, but he's successful and people make porn out of the game he made? God I hate him, I wish everyone else saw my potential.
You're not doing anything but complaining about someone else trying and succeeding. Poor you.
I hated Tumblrtale ever since he and his homosexual tumblr friends first started shilling it on Ganker.
>tumblrina friends
Have you ever made a friend on Xbox Live who would shill for you? It takes a lot to even make real friends on the internet. Those Newgrounds guys who are making money still aren't where they are because of complaining about Goober Gate. They make content and build communities. If you think that's not right and they should be miserable losers like you then that's your problem. No one makes a name for themselves being an angry, entitled recluse.
>Those Newgrounds guys who are making money still aren't where they are because of complaining about Goober Gate.
I don't disagree with you about Toby Fox, but saying that the Oney crew hasn't gotten anywhere because of "muh Gamergate" is moronic. Plus Toby Fox didn't get involved in that whole shitstorm and supported neither sides, rightfully so because that shitstorm was moronic no matter what fricking side you were on.
>people make porn out of the game he made
why is this your go-to for a positive
If you're just like Toby you need to go back
Damn, Toby really wormed his way into the industry. Really shows the power of networking.
Well, he is israeli and they're really damn good at infiltrating their host to destroy it from the inside. They're naturally parasitic lifeforms.
>he is israeli
Proof?
his schizophrenia
HUSSIE?
IS THAT YOU?
>Black person fox
Who gives a frick about this moron
top game devs do
Then they are moronic.
You and your /misc/ tourist buddies apparently
When I was playing Brawl and reading Homestuck in 2009 I never in a million years would have predicted this
All according to koikatsu
I wonder if Sakurai has read Homestuck
>Toby Fox gives Sakurai a recommendation for a localization company
>DAMN OUR BOY CAN'T STOP WINNING BROS I'M GONNA COOM
Nintendo fans are so easily amused.
Nintendo fans are lame but your greentext did get me to chuckle.
8-4 is fricking shit and I hope Toby gets treated like the moron he is for recommending those liabilities when they inevitably frick up or slight the wrong person.
I have to say the thing I'm most looking forward to game industry-wise, is Toby getting hit by grooming allegations that will send the entire Tumblr-offshoot part of the internet onto suicide watch, and when every fandom that ever affiliated itself with UT/DR will disappear overnight
Finally the indie scene will get some much needed house cleaning done
>Finally the indie scene will get some much needed house cleaning done
You clearly haven't been following the indie scene if you legitimately think Toby Fox is the worst thing or even the progenitor of all the problems in the indie scene.
Hell even devs like Dingaling turned out to be 10x bigger virtue-signalling homosexuals than Fox ever will be.
ITT: Hussie seething
Friendly reminder these are the types of people working on Deltarune that Toby supports
I still enjoyed the game but what the frick
thankfully they'll remove themselves from existence shortly, after a downward spiral due to never actually treating their own severe mental illness.
It's fricking amazing that Toby went from posting his Halloween Hack here and being told to frick off with that edgy shit, to hanging out with big name game devs.
Good for him, seriously.
>manchild nation likes manchild indiegay
Imagine being a weeb idolizing a group of dysfunctional men who got everything they need and yet think they are 'depressed' and lock themselves in their room 24/7. Imagine being so sad you vicariously live through some animeshit and vidya specifically made to pander to losers like you. Stop romanticizing your failures as a man. Just start working, it does not matter what, how, or where. There are enough burgers to flip and hard-working men, those who actually contribute to society, are getting hungry! You can also stop hiding behind that veil of misanthropy while you are at it, no one is falling for it.
Are these men in the room with you right now?
>chad pixel
>makes his game from scratch at a time when no one is making indie games
>made all the art, music, everything by himself
>does it for free and releases it for free
>forever remembered as a pioneer
>virgin toby
>cobbles his "game" together when the indie scene was already well established
>hired people to do the art for him, everything he did himself was heavily """inspired""" by existing stuff and still ended up garbage
>asks for money to even start making it and then charges money for the game
>not remembered by anyone except gay terminally online twitter zoomers
Still cant believe the fact that pixel made CS all by himself, he is really a legend. I respect him even more because he doesn't really interact with others devs, man is just living his life while making games.
Too based for this world
That man was truly one of a kind.
Pixel:
>spent 6 years working on CS
>created the entire game engine, music program, artwork, code, etc, all on his own pocket money
>only outside input was from play testers
>created CS twice, scrapped both versions, 2nd was 85% complete but his friends did not enjoy playing it, completely different music program, story, etc
>all of this done first while Pixel was in college, then afterwards when he worked a full time job, and was married with kids
>game has an English translation almost immediately after release, pioneers indie industry
Toby:
>uses GameMaker, FL Studio, programs that cost jack shit, still launches a Kickstarter and gets 5x the intended goal
>delays the game by a year, art style is inconsistent due to development being sporadic and clashing styles between him and Temmie
>game launches unfinished, Genocide route is missing bosses hinted at and Hard Mode is only finished up to the end of the Ruins
>Genocide was rushed in the last 2 months of development, but because of Le message it’s supposed to be shit to play
Cave Story wipes the ass with Undertale.
Pic related is from WamuDraws, who visited my Curly thread a week ago.
>i spent more time and effort working on my inferior and less interesting game, that means it's better than the other guy's superior game
p-please don't factor in deltarune when evaluating toby fox
>Undertale
>superior
Cave Story was both more influential for players and developers than Undertale ever was.
Deltarune’s deadline is up to bat on New Years. Toby is going past that deadline until AT LEAST mid 2024, amd the game is not shaping up given how shit Chapter 2 was.
Undertale is "superior" only because most people are literal shit eaters.
Cave Story is endlessly more captivating than anything in Undertale.
>8-4
troony company, learn japanese
>Toby gets 8-4 more work
Absolute homosexual. 8-4 is one of the worst localisation companies around.
>American homosexual is more popular than actual great game developer (ZUN)
Frick japan
Become a statistic touhou troony
Literally doing his best to give him some more recognition
>8-4
The frick happened to them
It's fricking scary how far good music in a videogame can take you. Guess musician is the chaddest profession in the end.
It's fricking scary how far *stealing good music in a videogame can take you
Being able to compose original good music has always been a well known virtue, but getting away with creative theft is a surprising feat
>It's fricking scary how far *stealing good music in a videogame can take you
>Being able to compose original good music has always been a well known virtue, but getting away with creative theft is a surprising feat
What did he steal?
>he wants the rundown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pxGKf6OhOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrBB3_rFPjg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8LOKIyJvMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntZz8L-pGYc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMDFhjpMTEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fee0GYSTebg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwrUem9vM_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb22li36dJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWBtpBwzzdM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKfS5zVfGBc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaihhlZ3QaU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHJdlmOQl6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLeid-bIRQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcF2LOaLgA0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1qjt_1geiI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o251comtNfk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLHR9ltzuWM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlKHChbEcps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAjnqQ-DTLI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aRE_J4UvYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKPG3cGxtJU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6LmMCuGjfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-y-tEuCPY8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB8o_VdvFpk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JGkPieR6nk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXwybuWRS8E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHly6zadTq0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7aXqjcUWMs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAqB1lOiH6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewxyxByJPP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaIjLUsH2yI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDuEWw648jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64fetbSh89s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83jGCWCcBzc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJkVwt_JJXo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0haC4QkPO0
>The Dating Start
Holy shit, he didn't even try to hide that one.
>Persona 2
Okay what the frick
>lists 009 Sound System, Turnabout Sisters and アリア as if they weren't references
>lists Gaster's Theme as an example despite being a fricking arpeggio which you can hear in nearly every song in existence at this point
moron
>references
The difference between a reference and plagiarism is how much of the original material is used, and Dating Start sounds almost 1:1 with Turnabout Sisters. That is not just a reference.
HE DIDN'T EVEN WRITE SUNSLAMMER YOU OCTUPLE Black person
No no anon. You see. All that stolen music. It was totally inspiration! Yeah inspiration. Not plagerized or stolen!
Anon what are you talking about? He's made his own music for quite some time.
Don't you have black boots you're supposed to be licking?
Exhibit A lmao
I'm not black so you don't have to lick my boots
Don't you have dicks you're supposed to be sucking anon?
No I'm not a homosexual like Undertale enjoyers
8-4 is a horrible translation “company”, if you want to call them they. A handful of ex woke translators butchering every game they translate isn’t good by any means
Toby fox single handedly got Japanese devs to make real games again.
How do I become Toby Fox?
1. Be born into a israeli family (most important part)
2. Decide to “make” a game
3. Use connections you have due to your israeli family to promote your kickstarter
4. Trick the goyim into donating by saying you’ll put their tumblr OCs in your game, which attracts lots of attention and you don’t have to character designs
5. Make your game in an “artstyle” so that can also be lazy with the drawing as well
6. Plagerize a bunch of music from several different games, but claim it’s “inspiration” (goyim fall for it every time)
7. Add politics and degeneracy in your games to promote hedonism in the west
8. Release your “indie” game with only work you actually did was programming it
9. Conviently leave your home country after helping promote wokeness as shit starts hitting the fan
For the future
10. Promote wokeness in your new home country and also wait until shit hits the fan before leaving
11. Repeat step 10 until you decide to move to Israel where you suddenly stop supporting open borders and homosexualry
Hi Achmed, rape any good camels lately?
You do know Toby is israeli right?
so?
Undertake has a town that celebrates Christmas for frick’s sake, moron.
And you’re a Mutt
Stop making shit up or post proof.
>goes as a gaijin to a homogeneous land
>first order of business is pozzing the local population and subverting their media and translations
Literally everything in Undertale is something that's already prevalent in anime you mong.
Yeah putting a song about mpreg in Pokemon, recommending a troonyslation studio to Sakurai, writing a column for Famitsu with no qualifying experience, direction his followers to BLM, meeting japanese game designers with nails that would put a drag queen to shame etc are all standard anime tropes
First one is something literally nobody there would get, 8-4 already works with Nintendo devs, I don't recall anything egregious on that famitsu column, the BLM follower thing was admittedly a mistake, lots of Asians have long nails, especially the more hikikomori ones.
Not sure why you're looking for justifications for pozzing the last homogenous creative bastion in the world
Because you're short-sighted. You think it's more likely that Toby will pozz them rather than them getting Toby to be less pozzed and to put that less pozzination in his works that are then consumed by the west?
>just dump this garbage in the ocean, the overwhelming purity of the ocean will purify the garbage because that's how it works
Yeah that's not how it works. Fox will continue to create works with how successful he's become. The best possible scenario is to get him immersed in Japan's homogeneity where he can then express it more in his works that western casuals lap up. Fox already idolizes the place himself.
>this man that has made nothing but pozzed subversive garbage in his life and has moved to a place that is ripe for subverting and that his associates decided needed subverting to bring it in line with their beliefs will stop creating subversive media because.. he just will okay??
Do you live like this?
I would really prefer it if you went back to Resetera
As said, all his games are just what's already prevalent in anime, with maybe even more anime references appearing in DR. The chances of him getting influenced by Japan to bring it back to the west is greater than him influencing Japan.
But it seems you're just a chicken little doomposter with mental damage.
>undertale is pozzed cuz... it just is okay??
>non-binary propaganda, trans propaganda, gay propaganda, lesbian propaganda, feminist propaganda, bisexual propaganda aren't pozzed because.. they just aren't okay????
>All optional shit you can completely ignore
>Game even gives you an incentive to murder everyone or do the snowgrave route
What the frick are you talking about?
Player stand-in, doesn't exist, bara/yuri/bi are prevalent archetypes in anime and there's only one of each of them, doesn't exist.
>it doesn't count because.. admitting it's pozzed would hurt my feefees!
Come back with an argument next time
>I can't counter counter-arguments because.... admitting it isn't pozzed would ruin my schizoophrenic narrative!
I literally gave you arguments. The problem is that you're unable to handle any arguments due to your stunted mental development.
>no examples
i accept your concession
>I wasted my life because of the israelites and every successful people who took a risk and delivered a beloved product did so thanks to the israeli cabal putting us down
I love this unorganic meme, I can identify loony troons on sight now
Also you are going nose first in the oven after Toby
>8-4
Good.
Just speak American you stupid jap. It really pisses me off how other countries insist on having their own "language" when American is the norm now
What did 8-4 do that's bad? I just know them from FE Awakening and Echoes that was leaps and bounds better than Treehouse.
Also, I'm surprised Sakurai didn't already know with how much he clearly is passionate about FE.
The Gunvolt translation
nig
>8-4
Aren't they the group that fricking ruined Dragon Quest
toby is truly the billy mitchell of our generation
I don't get these threads why shill Toby? I also don't want to move to Japan and become a salaryman. Who the frick is Sakurai? I like Kojima. I just don't get it...
>Who is Sakurai?
fricking moron
Undertale is really popular in Japan for reasons you should be able to work out in your head.
There's a symphony that plays a special on tv every year or so doing video game covers. Of course it's all shit like Dragon Quest or Final Fantasy, really normalgay nip stuff. There's only two foreign games that have gotten covers of the years. DKC2 and Undertale.
Anecdotal for sure but you don't make national tv alongside symphonic arrangements of Gen 1 Pokemon without being pretty well known shit.
Holy shit undertale man is going to be in smash 6!!!!
You jest but Toby's on good enough terms with Sakurai that he could unironically get Undertale or Deltarune rep into the next Smash.
I was jesting but I legit hope he might help get some Touhou rep in Smash someday too.
Majority of people who hates Toby does so because they see in him something they could and would have been. No, not as a specific game dev like he is or what kind of games he does but what he did to get there.
Many people on Ganker who are around his age range(88-94 to be general) have spent their time on Ganker or other shit sites. Many here wants to make their own games or at least part of some games be it character designs, gameplay design, story/narrative, or music. But many people here never got to it or were any part of any other community than Ganker. Never got to know anyone, never got around to make anything for others. Rather just feed in misery and that "you can't make it because x, y, or z". Never start anything, never learn anything, never create anything because why create something for a "community" like Ganker? Especially as time moved forward. So when that kind of person sees a guy like Toby who has made it because he spent his time around fandoms and created music for people to enjoy, then decided to code a fun game with the help of that fandom recognizition and musical skills, it is heart breaking. All this time that the person has spent on Ganker just shitposting, complaining about AAA publishers and politics, then ironic-shitposting, and then spamming wojaks(ironically of course), that person could have spent time honing ANY of his skills. Maybe make a prototype of a game. Basically do anything else.
So rather than being happy for a guy who is successful, or even be envious, they turn all that into hate. Because it isn't like you could have learned to make a romhack. It isn't like you could have learned to write/code/compose/draw. He just got lucky and people who helped him to fund his game just appeared from somewhere. It isn't like he had done stuff before that or been part of some fandom/community.
Because do you think Ganker would fund any game you make? Nobody likes you here, including you.
Do something.
Nah none of us were butt buddies with Hussie which is what gave Toby his chance
Notch did it first and it ain't all it is cracked up to be. Nobody cares that much about Toby stop writing these essays
I love Toby but this is me. I spent so much time doing nothing that it just feels like I wasted all of it and now I'm eternally playing catchup with the people who developed their hobbies in their teens. I miss being apart of fandoms too, but it just seems like they're all just on twitter/reddit/whatever now instead of niche subforums.
There's nothing to lament, Toby knew the right people and you didn't, no amount of skill or effort or achievement or creativity or originality would've made you successful without a Hussie of your own
I'm not looking to be the next Toby Fox. I just want to be personally satisfied with having made a game.
Then why look up to Toby whose only success is successfully marketing a mediocre game
words words words
i don't think anyone thinks they could have been like toby, he had a roll of luck and prior popularity.
I already do things
frick off
>No no you see the reason why you hate the plagerizing israelite who got a game 90% made by other people hugely successful due to connections none of us have is because you’re envious of him
Well yeah, when someone is successful when they don’t deserve it, people who had to actually work hard don’t tend to like them.
Y'all ramble on about Toby meanwhile Notch made the most successful game of all time. But you ignore him because A he was a little too based and B being rich sucks.
Notch's success proves complaints about Toby aren't jealousy because he's the most successful game dev of all time and Ganker doesn't feel the need to disparage him for it
No one gives a shit about Notch because he sold out even before shoving everything into Microsoft's greedy hands.
Popularity and profits went to his head and the lazy frick started a decline with increased vacations and failure to keep up promised content.
So? He is still WILDLY more successful and well known than Toby. See? There is always someone above you and usually the one up top isn't even that happy up there because the top is overrated.
Or because he's retired. Nobody's talking about Shinji Mikami after he made TEW2 and then dipped out forever.
>8-4
The bastards who screwed up the localization of Gunvolt so bad that Inti made the xer character into a MSGK just to spite them.
based 8-4 making chuds seethe
>less whiny
Thank fricking god
>that's a good thing
Every time with their groupthink garbage
>muh groupthink
That's localization.
But the creators for those games are also pozzed trannies, that must mean you're just a gay too
No idea about the creator of OFF, I can’t read French.
Dingaling’s Dad died, so had a mental breakdown, decent excuse despite how moronic he acted, but he made up for it by shutting up on social media. Hell, LISA was the reason why he started using social media, due Tor the Kickstarter, right around the time of Undertale’s.
OneShot devs at the very least kept the political shit on the downturn. The most political things are the troony devs self-insert in a secret room and the fricked up credits (said troony wears his own cremated testicles as ear rings). Devs also suck off to Toby on the daily and OneShot’s Steam route was influenced by Undertale quite heavily.
None of these devs have made an active effort as much as Toby has to include troony shit in their games, Toby actively hires trannies to put their fetish shit into his games.
What troony did Toby hire? The one I saw was a dev for OneShot. There's also no trans shit other than not referring to the player characters with pronouns and that could easily be because of player stand-in and isn't any more trans propaganda than referring to Pokemon as "it" regardless of their gender in the games. Some of the troony fanbase latched onto it, including also headcanoning the ghosts as trannies too but I've never viewed them that way. Seems like just an example of fanbases going hogwild with moronic headcanons like with most lore heavy games. The only SJW thing UT had were a single lesbian couple, and a single completely minor gay couple.
>the one I saw was a dev for OneShot
Got a screencap or something? You might be mistaking that for the Celeste musician.
The ghost headcanon stuff was practically confirmed by Toby, and one of the crossdressing characters works his way into Deltarune.
>The ghost headcanon stuff was practically confirmed by Toby
Where? Last I recall Toby famously avoids answering anything of the sorts, even if the best example of it has long been deleted (but you can still find it with Wayback?.
His silence, along with the people he associates with should be proof enough.
It’s a hard pill to swallow.
Schizo logic. On the contrary, if he genuinely meant it and is as openly supportive as you claim he would've be more than happy to admit it. That would just give him more brownie points.
It’s be a bad business decision, the Japs would not want to associate with him, and the only thing schizo is using Olympic-style mental gymnastics to dodge the fact he is a troony lover.
Japan would literally not give 2 fricks as long as his works good
I thought he was targeting the troony crowd? Isn't the troony crowd what makes up most of his audience as his western audience completely dwarfs his Japanese audience which he didn't even know he'd get?
And as if the average Japanese person is the kind of person that would read Toby's twitter instead of just enjoying the game at its face value?
Your logic is full of holes because it's schizo logic.
This has been anime tropes for time eternal.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AgentPeawiener
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SissyVillain
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CreepyCrossdresser
He's a flamboyant villain and even after he turns face he's still a weirdo. This archetype has existed everywhere from Hunter X Hunter to Sailor Moon.
It says a lot about how you've fallen into thinking every is trans just like trannies themselves when you're saying a spirit possessing a robot body is now trans. This shit wouldn't be out of place at all in some kids cartoon. At this point all of you scizos would think Beast Boy transforming into a female cow is actual transgenderism.
Player character stand-in. Stuff like CYOA books have done this since before the 90s.
Anime makes fun of these people, you should ask Toby publicly if he was making fun of them when he included them in his game. Hisoka is a murderous psychopath pedophile, you think the LGBT crowd is clamoring for that type of representation?
Yes, Mettaton was clearly meant to be a ridiculous clown with delusions of grandeur and detached from reality.
It just happened that the younger generation of lgbt flocked to him. Even though he isn't actually confirmed to be lgbt at all. It's similar to how Wonder Woman was recently considered a troony icon even though she's not trans at all. Hell, her being a feminist icon is silly since she originally started as a submissive bondage fetish for the author. But you can't control audiences.
>her being a feminist icon is silly since she originally started as a submissive bondage fetish for the author
wait really? i want the source on this
https://thegeekwhisperer.com/2009/01/20/wonder-woman-the-super-secret-kinky-origin-of-a-feminist-icon/
Headcanon is irrelevant, ask Toby if he was mocking feminine men with Metaton
Ok, but first you ask if Mettaton was meant to be trangender since that's what the subject that led to this was.
>I thought he was targeting the troony crowd? Isn't the troony crowd what makes up most of his audience as his western audience completely dwarfs his Japanese audience which he didn't even know he'd get?
How many trannies do you genuinely think existed in 2015, anon?
Ah, so it isn't for the troony crowd so it's not pozzed.
why was delta chapter 2 so fricking garbage tho?
literally hannah barbera tier humor, but unfunny
lol so random writing and edgy shit that puts coldsteel to shame
not to mention spambot was too easy
But Chapter 2 was great. Spamton's shop was legit psychological horror. Noelle freezing things onscreen was interesting. Two punch-out fights, one which took place with giant mechas. The beat dropping for A Cyber's World was a jam. The Roaring scene gives a great taste of what might come. Humor is hit-and-miss but I had my share of fun with the battles and adventure atmosphere.
>CYOA books have done this since before the 90s.
CYOA books don't have an option to offer readers the choice of gender like games do
>CYOA books don't have an option to offer readers the choice of gender like games do
That is nonsense, all it needs is to either specify it in the first segment, or not mention it at all in which case the player is free to choose without any effect.
And Undertale was meant to play like one of those ancient retro media that didn't do this. Like how all the fights are in black and white even though he showed in the final sections the fights can be in perfect color if he wanted it.
he was already hired by gamefreak to do a few songs for pokemon
>he's guilty becausr I FEEL he is guilty
Literal fricking woman logic
It was posted above.
And proof?
>pic related as well as the pic in the next post
>Metaton is a queer gay robot
>Mad Mew Mew has trans themes
>Royal Guards are gay
>Alphys is bisexual
>Undyne is a lesbian
>dating Papyrus regardless of gender
>opted for non-binary pronouns instead of letting players choose male or female ones
B-b-b-but Tumblr told me Toby is based and redpilled!!
No poz or agenda here!
>non-stereotypical homosexual characters
I've nothing against that. If those kinds of characters were allowed to be both good and evil, likable and unlikable, noble and absolutely rotten, way less people would have an issue. The most annoying thing about gay characters is usually the pedestal they're placed upon.
You should go back
Nah, I'm quite comfy here, I just don't blow a fuse over everything. Far easier to still enjoy things that way.
No I really think it would be the best for all if you went back
Nah, it's still fun here from time to time.
>newbie tells people to go back
they always do this.
Nah, election tourists should go leave. There was a time when Ganker didn't think a game with a single homosexual couple played for laughs was something to dilate over.
Guess FFVII was also a troony game
>dating Papyrus regardless of gender
And regardless of age. Isn't the protagonist a child?
It is a groomer game after all
People seriously defend this shit?
papyrus is literally bleddit incarnate
don't even know why he made it into the final release to be tbh
If it was turned around and said power of fluffy girls and someone said it was pedo I would assume they're a closet pedo projecting themselves as I will assume of you too.
Papyrus is mentally also a child, if not physically, I don't know how monster ages work
That's a grown man's skeleton, also
>well it's fine if I'm a child at heart
is the biggest fricking groomer cope
>That's a grown man's skeleton
Skeleton monsters aren't made of actual human skeletons
That's exactly what a groomer would want you to think
I'm biting the bullet here and I'm probably going to sound like a Twittergay, but is the mere existence of gay/trans people in something sufficient for it to be labeled "SJW"?
Depends on the writing. It is when the shit is overtly shoehorned in is the problem. Writers fall into the trap Maltz warned of.
What the frick is a pozzed piece of media if not something that features degenerates in a conscious attempt to normalize them
why can't you go back to whatever shithole website you came from?
Nowadays? Absolutely. We will never, ever have a Ballad of Gay Tony without a significant contingent of Ganker going into a meltdown.
>Toby actively hires trannies to put their fetish shit into his games.
source: trust me bro
>”Samantheul Gilson”
>”Marcy Nabors”
>”Lena Raine”
Come the frick on Anon.
It's true, as soon as you listen to the OST, the beta-troony waves invade your mindscape and convince you to take HRT.
OFF's dev is a commie according to his twitter.
>Man, I should come back from retirement. This is fun.
What retirement, you've been sperging in various threads for at least a solid week now. If this is retirement how much of an obnoxious gay were you when you were active?
I hate homosexual Fox
who
is the election tourist STILL complaining? how did toby mindbreak him this hard?
>Twitter screencap thread
https://yeshomo.net/undertale/
Globohomosexual approved game!
>For years, I’ve been waiting for this game to be made: a game where you can befriend the monsters instead of killing them. And it’s truly rewarding to do so
Doesn't Persona let you do that?
Kind of a stretch to say you befriend them, but sort of I guess. Though even that applies more to P5.
Shit I meant to say SMT
Ah, fair enough then!
this speaks more to the absolute state of 8-4's contacts
Sitting around on a couch listening to music and eating potato chips is superior to being an indie game """dev"""
I like sitting on my couch doing nothing for 5 months and not exercising.
>I conclude here with a final question: even despite its pervasive LGBTQ representations and queer elements, are there inherent limitations to the way that Undertale itself represents queerness that make it susceptible to this type of straightwashing? In Undertale, as Fox himself reports, LGBTQ characters and romances are portrayed as normal. Though these characters do face challenges, they are never discriminated against on the basis of their genders or sexual orientations. On the one hand, the normalization of queerness in Undertale contributes to what Ruelos, as quoted above, describes as the game's vision of a queer utopia. On the other hand, this normalization may be precisely what has allowed nonqueer players to straight-wash the game. Since the game does not address anti-LGBTQ discrimination, or present LGBTQ characters as disruptive to the game-world's status quo, it risks making queerness benign, harmless, and therefore easier to overlook—or laugh off—for players who would prefer to see Undertale as a straight game. I mention this final point not to condemn Undertale for its particular approach to representing queerness, but to suggest that, in order to challenge heteronormative ways of thinking about video games, in-game LGBTQ representation may need to do more than simply show players that queer people exist. This representation may also need to push players to confront difference, power, and oppression as they intersect with LGBTQ lives in ways that cannot be straightwashed out of the game.
>straightwash
>tl;dr Toby bad for not having homosexuals struggle because they're homosexuals and instead just focus on the story he wants to tell
The desire to be a victim genuinely radiates off those sentences. It's fricking pathetic. Every gay I've ever known just wants to live in peace, none of this eternal struggle nonsense.
>NOOO you must shove irl identity politics that contributes nothing to the progression of your game
Current day internet activists and journalists that won't shut up about id-politics are so astronomically moronic that they might as well be one of the biggest reasons why the internet is still homophobic
for the very substantial subset of """queer""" people that are actually just addicted to their persecution complex, a queer utopia would be a nightmare for them, and they would immediately quit being gay when it no longer got persecuted for it.
This is mostly just terminally online twitter morons and teenage girls, though
>NOO YOU CANT EVER DISCUSS VIDEO GAMES AND VIDEO GAME FIGURES UNLESS WE DISCUSS IDPOL
>THIS GUY'S BROTHER'S SISTER'S UNCLE'S FRIEND IS A troony SO WE NEED TO HATE HIM NOW
>WE MUST FEED INTO THE GRAMSCIST PLOY THE LEFT EMPLOYS AND MAKE EVERYONE FEEL DEMORALIZED AND ANGRY SO WHEN THE REVOLUTION COMES, NO ONE WILL CARE ENOUGH TO STOP IT
>WE NEED TO KEEP MAKING EVERY USER FEEL LIKE SHIT ABOUT EVERY GAME THEY PLAY, EVERY SHOW THEY WATCH, EVERY PIECE OF MEDIA THEY CONSUME, WE NEED TO LET THE COMMIES WIN
Hey Toby, just a thought, if you didn't want people to disucss the poz shit in your games you should've tried not putting any poz shit in your games, hope that helps!
Not Toby, just a tired man, tired of people screaming and crying on here and letting the commies win by constantly b***hing and moaning.
remember when we could discuss video games on Ganker without having constant meltdowns over gay people being in video games
Yeah it was fun when devs didn't find it necessary to force poz shit in their games and were just concerned with how fun a game is, shame Toby's games ended that streak in indie games
anon if you think that gay people in video games started with undertale then you are too young to be here
Undertale was the first truly big pozzed indie game and its success attracted the tumblr crowd to games
Game conventions now how diversity and representation panels partly thanks to Undertale
You can literally just ignore the existence of things you don't like instead of sperging out about them constantly on the internet
The tourist is instinctually driven to ruin Ganker. it's just their nature.
Just ignore the tourists?
“Tourists” are boogiemen to giga homosexuals on here who need to rationalize someone having a different opinion than them. To avoid “tourists” would mean you have to completely avoid anyone who slightly disagrees with you.
t. ourist
Why do I have to ignore the obnoxious Undertalegays, but you can complain and b***h all you want about people who mock your shitty game?
Not what I'm saying you disingenuious homosexual, I'm saying that people should stop bringing up idpol as criticisms purposefully to try and derail threads
Both Gone Home and Life is Strange preceed Undertale. You'd be a fool to think the push for diversity didn't come from Gone Home with how much of a media darling it was. The stuff in Undertale was just there, wheread those two were laser-focused on the topic.
>Toby single-handedly ruined all indie games
If you couldn't find a single good indie since 2015, chances are the problem is with you.
>holy shit
Unsubbed. Hate games today anyways. Video games died with the PS Vita. Never buying a console again. I don't even hate Undertale. I think Undertale was a fun game if you do genocide mode but this stuff is really gay and I dislike Japanese games being mixed with westaboos. Persona 6 will take place in America lul.
I like doing nothing all day.
Same
i hate tourists so fricking much. why do they want to shit up Ganker? what do they get out of it?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewxyxByJPP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaIjLUsH2yI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDuEWw648jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64fetbSh89s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83jGCWCcBzc
Undertale isn't even good as game. You can just run away from every encounter and the game never gets difficult enough to tempt people to level up for power, making its themes fall flat. The characters are absolutely awful, I can't imagine the type of person who could emotionally identify with characters like Undyne, Alphys, or Papyrus. Literally every other quirky indie RPG is better than Undertale.
Level 1 asgore with no upgrades or healing, Undyne the undying, and Sans were cool bosses.