Is using showdown to test vgc teams considered cheating?

Is using showdown to test vgc teams considered cheating?

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes it's an unfair advantage over people who only use the base game.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anyone can use showdown. How does one hack a switch without an unupdsted v1 model?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Trade with a discord bot.
        t. doesn't have a hacked switch, but has used pkhex to inject every one of his VGC teams

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          so there are servers on discord where they run their own trading system to/from cart to pc data?

          people with bad internet and infrequent access to a computer can't

          much lower bar than genning, are you even anything before in-game building if your internet is that bad? You cant Home, you can't Battle Stadium on cart, too niche of a circumstance.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >so there are servers on discord where they run their own trading system to/from cart to pc data?
            Yes. Basically you message a trade code and pk9 file and they will gen and trade it to you. After, they give you the .pk9 file of the Pokemon you just sent them. The smart thing to do is use that .pk9 file they sent you as the base for all of your Pokemon, because it will have legit caught info, memories, your trainer id, etc.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Tradebots/Sysbots wipe the home tracker on trade, Intended behavior, Which means you are limited to trading in the correct game or HOME will show it came from the wrong game.
          On the other side if it doesn't wipe the tracker the edits on said Pokemon won't match the home tracker number (This is why it has to be wiped)

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you were to get an Ursaluna traded to your SV game from a trade bot then sent it through Home to PLA wouldn't that still give it a valid tracker?

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              No because the Ursaluna now came from SV due to the tracker wipe unless its unedited with tracker from PLA then you are fine

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is good, albeit annoying, information. I guess I'll have to send it to PLA then send it through Home to SV and change its tera type with shards.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Make it an SV origin Ursaluna. You can get Ursaring in SV so make it SV origin and transfer it back and forth from HOME, you'll get a HOME tracker

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Make it an SV origin Ursaluna. You can get Ursaring in SV so make it SV origin and transfer it back and forth from HOME, you'll get a HOME tracker

              this as well

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        people with bad internet and infrequent access to a computer can't

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          if you have poor internet and little access to a pc something tells me you aren't going to be a competitive pokemon player in the first place. internet is a requirement for practice whether on the PC or switch and everyone needs a PC to plan out teams

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not an unfair advantage moron falseflagger because Showdown is not Pokemon, nor is it using a third party software to modify things in the base game.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        This. It's not anymore cheating than doing basic math is cheating.
        As long as it does not use modified things in the actual game, there's no issue.

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes
    Stop cheating

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Showdown is cheating in general.

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    nice bait , keep on cheating 0IV Cresselia you troony defender

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    No
    Stay there

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everything is cheating, cry more cheaters
    >BUT I JUST WANNA SAVE TIME! BUT I JUST WANNA TEST STRATEGIES! BUT GFD SHOULD ALLOW US TO CHEAT! BUT THEY FORCE US TO BUY 3 GAMES!
    Correct. And will forever happen, because you are playing their game and they can do as they please with their trash franchise. It is simple as that. Also don't put it as pretext that "BUT GF SUCKS BECAUSE DEXIT!!" complains justify the fact that you are still a cheater in anyway. This is why people who don't like the direction shit is going pirate or simply drop the games.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you fall for such obvious bait and/or guerilla marketing...

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        everything is bait, even your comment

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a separate game that doesn't interact with the main game.

    If you want to bust out your printer and make proxy trading cards and play them in a side-game built entirely around proxy trading cards, go ahead.

    Just like you're going to get laughed out of the building if you bring a crayon-drawn Charizard to a Pokemon TCG event, you're going to get laughed out of the building if you bring a Showdown team file to a Pokemon VGC event.

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gamefreak has not shut down PS for a reason, its totally fair play to test teams. Just raise your own mons based on that team instead of genning

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's only cheating if you get caught.

  10. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pokemon Showdown is cheating. You can play as many games as you want, instantly, with all the aminations turned off. You can get 10x the amount of battles in to test teams than you can on cart. Anyone who does not catch, breed, trade, and train their own pokemon are cheaters. They have access to knowledge they shouldn't and it gives them an unfair advantage to legit players who only play cart.

  11. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    afaik nowhere in the vg rules and guidelines does it say anything about playing in simulators, you can imagine they dont really support showdown, but its technically legal if they dont say anything about using it

  12. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    This entire thread is bait.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      board* website*

  13. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Showdown should remove VGC and other gay custom formats

    Only OU and Ubers pf each gen should be playable tiers on the main smogon showdown server

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >OU
      >not a fanfic (custom) format

  14. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you're testing on Showdown, you're cheating.
    If you're watching PS replays or fights on Youtube, you're cheating (and supporting illegal restreams).
    If you're using damage calcs or autistically memorizing them like Wolfe, you're cheating.
    If you don't call EVs by their proper name (base stats), you support cheating.
    If you ever traded, you're cheating.
    If you're not playing on shitty Starbucks wifi, you're cheating.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cope, seethe

  15. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not against the rules, so no.

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