Is VR dying?
PSVR2 sold shit
The Metaverse is a shitshow
Is VR dying? PSVR2 sold shit. The Metaverse is a shitshow
Is VR dying?
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kek, its already out?
nah VR comes out in a month
>Is VR dying?
>they/them asked for the millionth time
jeez dude let it go
Meta was on top of everything, and would have ran away with it if they put all their metaverse money into quest exclusives.
Alas, we've had shit all since RE4VR, which, granted, is one of the best VR games available.
PSVR2 is a wired, expensive headset that requires you to be attached to a PS5 and doesn't even have built in speakers.
What the actual fuck was sony thinking.
This. Xbox became a big player because they invested in exclusives like Halo.
I don't think their hardware currently could justify exclusives. I doubt quest 3 gen could justify it either. Since it will be focused on ar and ar has even less ground to stand on than vr
Apparently they have 41 new games and apps launching with the Quest 3 headset but I’ll believe it when I see it.
I don't even care about the wire, if PSVR2 supported PC I would've bought it day 1.
I have a PS5 but 90% of the stuff worth playing on VR is only available on PC, literally just sabotaging their own product, actually what the fuck were they thinking
what is it on PC you're looking forward to? I have PCVR and I haven't seen anything in years which I want to play.
an hero yourself
you have no idea
>I don't want a PSVR2 because the games I want are on PC
What games, anon?
>This PSVR2 game
2 previous games were ported to PC, also this one will get a switch port
is it coming to PC tho
probably when it's a complete game and not 2 episodes
I don't own any VR hardware, the Valve Index is too overpriced for what you get in my opinion.
But EmuVR, Half-Life Alyx, Boneworks/labs, VR Porn, and I've also seen some pretty cool unofficial VR mods for 2D games, such as the ones for Cyberpunk I'd like to try. Beat Saber was also fun the one time I one time I tried it.
1st world problems, where I live it's not sold at all and PSVR2 is around 1k USD
Shit games, made more to jerk off on highlights rather than being played as they are extremely janky
Community is also retarded
>pretty cool unofficial VR mods for 2D games, such as the ones for Cyberpunk
Avoid Cyberpunk mod, it's shitty one
Good flatscreen to VR mods are HL2, Outer Wilds(literally better than OG game), Risk of Rain 2
For AAA games Resident Evil VR mods are good
I've heard good things about Valheim and Deep Rock Galaxy mods, but didn't played it
pcvr is probably dead for now. psvr is never taking off. Quest has potential but is currently a toy for rich toddlers. maybe san andreas vr will cause a resurgence
pcvr is at the same standstill it always was thanks to garden gnomebook
>PSVR2 released with a tech demo (Horizon), a pancake remake (Village, admittedly REALLY good) and a bunch of games that every other platform already has, including the quest
What was sony smoking.
The only target audience is those who are interested in VR yet somehow haven't bought a Quest 2.
PCVR is dead as a dodo.
PSVR2 is where it's at.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is an Albanian.
i have a ps2vr beware, it has no games and NO PORN
>a meta shill arrives to earn their wages
It has over 60 games and another 50 announced to be released. How many games do you need 2 weeks after launch?
I need a single game that is not point and click to move
>I need a single game that is not point and click to move
all of them. You go into the settings and turn on smooth turning and turn off teleport movement.
Ones I do this in so far as NMS, Star Wars, RE8, Light Brigade, Horizon.
>PSVR2 sold shit
says who? No sales figures are released.
Really dumb of sony to not make this shit fully compatible with pc. Nobody wants to fucking buy a ps5 since they announced no BC
It's not this bad but it's still fucking awful
>Really dumb of sony to not make this shit fully compatible with pc
They have to sell games somehow
VR/AR is the future of all media. Once the devices get small enough it will be a must own item for billions of people. It will die when direct brain interface replaces it.
vr was never alive
>Is VR dying?
yes, steam vr stats decreased in february
DQ VR doko
arcade games are never ported
That seems like more than just an arcade game.
Same with the Mario Kart VR thing, even though it ran on SteamVR
GT7 and RE8 in VR are pretty great. Although I have a sinking feeling those will still be the only noteworthy PSVR2 games several years from now.
Currently playing zenith and vrchat s lot. Social interaction is tough for me but vr helps a lot. Beatsaber is very fun and I play it a lot, but it's very annoying that most custom songs are challenege maps that are designed to break your wrist. Need to find time to play demeo as well. Gonna be excited for the pro controllers to come in so I can compare them to the normal touch controllers.
If OpenHMD stops stalling for years and Monado can finally become the sane "Does-it-all" default for all the intermediary headset to game shit then maybe we can see some headsets and controllers released far more piecemeal and as jank possibly DIY budget shit.
Standalone and PSVR2 cancer are just dead ends with a lot less community drive power for autistic projects than straight PCVR.
i don't trust anyone except valve to make an actual vr game that isn't just an arcade tech demo to play for 15 minutes. ports like skyrim, resident evil 4, racing sims, etc. are where it's at or vr.
VR will never die. There isn't any non-postapocalyptic future timeline where VR is absent from the entertainment industry.
Unironically I'd like it to stay a niche thing for as long as possible, one Alyx-tier game every two years would be better than a plateform dominated by AAAs.
>PSVR2 sold shit
>Is constantly getting praise for being the best vr option on the market
Why are tendies like this? Is it because everyone laughed at labo vr?
Praise doesn’t translate to sales, dumdum.
They already slashed production in half from 2 million units before launch.
>Is constantly getting praise for being the best vr option on the market
Honestly I still think it's the Quest 2.
Stuff like Valve Index and PSVR2 may be technically better but considering the spotty library of VR in general they’re not 3x the price better.
For $299/399 that’s fine
No it isn't gay. Horizons is a really shitty version of rec room. It's not ok even with the newer graphics.
I’m not talking about Horizons I’m talking about general quest games
>bro we are gonna REVOLUTIONIZE VR!!!
>just makes shitty soulless corpo vrchat
Mark zuck deserves death
>have non artists do art
meanwhile you had red matter 2 and bonelabs on quest 2
and more stilized shit like re4vr, pistol whip, red matter
people really dont get how strong the quest 2 is, they always say "lol mobile chip" but the chip in it is almost as fast as the ps4 console !!!
its not weak by any means, the problem is that it runs things at 4k 70fps
you legit could make a pretty metaverse if you got talented people on it and not 10 000 diversity hires
>want to play vr
>not a whole lot of games i'm intrested in
>don't want to drop 900 or so bucks on a vr headset for just porn
i hope it gets better but it needs more games
Headset-exclusive games were a big mistake
You VR people literally have VR Chat and the people at the forefront of development are not catering to that. It is the dumbest business move I have ever seen. Meta will die and PSVR will be irrelevant. These people are ignoring the human condition, and as long as you do that you will never make money.
That’s because they’re trying to replace it.
Look at how much Money rec room raises in funding
Because vrc is free and is almost entirely made up of user made content. Can’t really compete with that.
The best way vr games could take off is allowing custom avatars to be used in them. The biggest vr enthusiasts are furries, and they’d probably play a lot more than just vrc and valheim if they could use their vrc avatar in it.
Doesn't look like it has sold as shit as people believe.
good to hear, we need more PSVR2 quality VR games instead of quest mobile tier
PSVR2 isn't the metaverse, it's just vr gaming
there's no social aspect of psvr2, there's no productivity tools, no videoconferencing, no websites built for vr, no proper ar stuff, it's way too early
People only buy VR headsets for VRchat. If Sony wants PSVR to do better then they better beg for a VRchat port or something.
I'll buy a VR headset when they make a super minimal, lightweight headset that only plays Beatsaber and goes for max 200$.
nobody cares what your requirements are
Nobody cares that you don't care bro
I care. I'm with anon, beat saber is the only good thing about VR.
>goes for max 200$.
that's really specific, imagine being this poor
Okay that's actually really cool.
I'd grab that. Though I've been pondering about grabbing the Quest 3 if it's around 400$ and significantly lighter than the quest 2.
They said a Quest 3 would be more expensive than Quest 2 so expect like $500 as the base
Kino of the highest order. Emuvr slaps ass for nostalgiafags
When I’m really jonesing for it I’ll pop a 90s movie into a tv and play some PS1 games and spend like 5 hours in a make believe childhood bedroom. I spent hours getting posters of everything I liked as a kid. So neat. Definitely going to be something I’ll die in when I’m rotting away in a retirement community
i hope they get more expensive so i don't have to play with you cellphone chuds.
The next Meta headset after Quest 3 is apparently gonna be a super cheap “Quest Lite” so that could Hit $200
if it has worse specs than Quest 2 and is as heavy or cumbersome, then no thanks.
Quest 2 is good for what it does but the standalone games look like ass compared to PCVR on a decent rig, and the PC linking sucks ass and causes lots of graphical hiccups. I guess a cheaper Quest Lite would be good for average consumers who want a basic bitch experience and can't play much on there, which may be their intent to just grab as large of an audience as possible.
Yeah that's a good policy to have. I like it. I'm going to adopt it as well.
based, I'd buy this
everything else is normietrash gimmickslop
Waiting for the Index 2 baby, PSVR2 looks neat but fucked locked down usage when half the appeal is porn.
quest2 is enough for porn
>not 180/360º video
why even bother
>why even bother
it can do 360 8K
i know, i know, just saying that webm isn't the best example of vr video
can't really make 360 AND stereo, this is a huge problem and there are no video players that actually support stereo encoding
Isn’t stereo encoding just automated SBS?
stereo works at 180, at 360 the depth gets reversed
>giving zuckerburg a record of your porn viewing
>likely camera footage too
when it leaks, you got some explaining to do
I don't fucking care if the glowies or the chinks overseas saw me rubbing my tiny boy clit.
what about your boss and your friends/family?
zuck knows all of the porn and degenerate preferences and he still made his metaverse a sterile corporate shit
Should have invest into virtual girls on own cloud servers
Despite any controversy and attempts to ~~*shut it down*~~ he still could make comeback
he should have gone full degen mode, just look at vam, that's where the real money is for vr, not for meeting with your colleagues on a headset
>you got some explaining to do
I wish i was that primal as some normies when it comes to VR immersion
>wish porn could be presented in public places
Got a used Quest 2 for a really good price, what games are a must? PCVR also welcome
>Pavlov (the free Quest version)
I'm actually excited for my Index to come in. Gonna play Alyx, Ancient Dungeons, Demeo, Sword and Sorcery, and work on my avatar for Vrchat. Seems fun.
It was never alive.
It needed more than one big game
I'm waiting for the Quest 3 myself
I wish the Quest 2 had color pass-through.
That way I could use it as a full on monitor replacement for work.
I've tried a couple of solutions before, but not being able to see the keyboard properly does something to my brain, even though I am fully capable of typing with my eyes closed.
quest 2 is too low res (70% panel utilization) and too heavy for real productivity work, you need https://fxtwitter.com/mylesdotapp/status/1634383793166635009
This+3d camera passthrough mod for 70$(it's made for Q2 though, not sure if it will work if connected to PC)
When I tried it I could read just fine, the only issue was the keyboard really.
Yeah, I'm aware, the issue is that it has to be paired to the quest, and I just want to use the quest for the virtual monitors, everything else should be running directly on the computer, or my work notebook in my case.
Is that a full color pass through addon for the quest 2?
Because if so, that might just be exactly what I need.
I'll check it out, thanks anon.
>Is that a full color pass through addon for the quest 2?
If you use a supported Bluetooth keyboard it’ll overlay Labels onto it to make typing easier.
Just bought the last two DLCs i was missing for Walkabout Minigolf.
VR is dead only for the retards who can't afford a headset and a good PC to play games with nice graphics.
>Too expensive for average normalfags
>Meta Quest is an ok price point but no one wants to tie a Zuckerberg account to it
>Only a few killer apps worth playing on the system to go back to, everything else are one off short experiences
>Not everyone has dedicated space in their living area for VR
>VR platform exclusives like RE4 VR and HL Alyx
The technology is cool, when implemented well it's great, but it's just not there yet for normalfags to consume.
Unless Apple or one of the big 3 releases a VR only console, heavily markets it, and releases nothing but killer exclusives for it, then it is just a niche product as far as gaming platforms go. The VR modding scene is kind of helping.
It needs to be cheap enough for an average normie to pick up and buy during Christmas or Birthdays, a standalone device to be used anywhere, and have killer apps everyone can use. The fact VR headsets are tied to one person use at a time also hinders it, as it basically kills any local socialization with one device available. I believe this is also why Nintendo (or at least Miyamoto) was opposed to pursuing VR in the first place since they want their gaming experiences to be social.
There's also the fact that people still get motion sick and the tech is advancing at a rate where if you want the latest bells and whistles that make it amazing (foveated rendering, wider FOV, more somfrotable designs etc.) you have to shell out big money.
Apple’s focused on XR instead of VR and their planned headset is gonna be professional focused at $3k with a cheaper consumer Model Not arriving for another year or so after.
A normal computer would already consume 700 euros out of my pocket, you intend to tell me that I have to pay double that to access 10% of the market that is unclear is worthwhile?
It's mathematically retarded
japs abandoned VR, last year there were zero new virtual market booths from the popular gacha gamadevs
>Quest 3 wont have dynamic foveated rendering
WHO THE FUCK IS IN CHARGE OF VR AT META
WHY ARE THEY SO FUCKING RETARD
wonder why Carmack couldn't deal with it, even didn't want to bother with zuck's AI
Didn’t Carmack say foverted Rendering wasn’t that feasible, or did he mean in the context of standalone Headsets?
He did say it
Maybe things has changed since then, but when he said that technology had not that high enough gains to justify the hardware cost increase and development costs
>say foverted Rendering wasn’t that feasible
Its literally fucking free performance
it needs eye tracking to be good
and quest 3 wont have eye tracking
but yeah, its a good way to make the weaker mobile hardware stronger
>it needs eye tracking to be good
bro, he did said it about dynamic foveated rendering
And honestly, i see no reason why more games should not have fixed foveated rendering, it's hard to notice if done correctly and gives some gains
vr is for fags and retards who live permanently in VR chat
vr is for size enjoyers