>isekai is all over Japanese media
>it's almost nowhere to be found in vidya
Why is this? The most famous isekai vidya I can think of are Sonic and the Black Knight and Forspoken.
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>isekai is all over Japanese media. >it's almost nowhere to be found in vidya
"it's just like my video games" doesn't work as well when it's actually a video game.
You'd think they would find a way to make it work.
Even SAO puts out vidya.
That videogame aspect isn't a necessity of Isekai. Just have more games with a protagonist transported to a fantasy world. It'd be even better if you can fully design and customize your character. That's basically it.
Let's talk about this transformation
Why make such a cool transformation for a forgettable game with such awful gameplay.
For all the bad games Sega makes, their presentation is usually good enough to convince people that bad games are actually amazing, everybody thought Sonic CD was better than S3&K until they actually played it in 2011, but even now people still suck it off as if it's not the worst mainline Sonic game on the genesis.
Because Black Knight is kino
It's the perfect blend of European epic mythos mixed with Japanese over the top action and direction and the music is a sells it.
I don't even like Sonic and when i played this game i though it was really mediocre but this transformation lives rent free in my mind for more than a decade, now.
>Blocks your path
He said famous. Not forgettable.
no one can forget that pizza cutter and ass
yeah, forspoken was a joke
How is Marche forgettable you c**t?
>his ideals are still brought up 20 years after release
>forgettable
lmao
ultima and nox come to mind
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Fricking love Nox. Dead IP, bound to EA for eternity.
Is this a joke?
Bro read.
No seriously, what were they thinking
SO UH
THAT JUST HAPPENED
ass creed?
I wouldn't say that counts
The idea literally comes from a video game series, .hack
SOA is plagiarized .hack but you zoomies are too fricking young and dumb to know
Digimon, monster rancher etc. are all isekais as well
First of all, .hack is not an isekai and even if it was, isekai stuff existed before it was even an idea in someone's mind. Second of all, SAO's first volume (the entire Aincrad arc) was written sometime between 2001 and early 2002, which is before all the .hack video games were released and at worst was written at the same time SIGN was airing.
>.hack is not an isekai
it technically is
>MC, and FRIENDS transported into virtual world
>virus goes amok
>can't get out of world
>have to learn to live in le world
that is pretty damn isekai
>>MC, and FRIENDS transported into virtual world
Sorry, which version of .hack are you talking about?
This is why I'm so confused on how the SAO is a .hack ripoff idea got started. Because getting trapped in a video game doesn't really happen to the cast.
>SAO is plagiarized .hack
>he doesn't know
Why do you think SAO's first arc takes place in something that seems akin to Ultima or Ragnorak?
I've just been playing .hack the other day and asking myself why don't they capitalize on the isekai boom and just the modern terminally online life in general and make some sort of comeback? Surely all that shit is more relevant now than it ever was back in 2001.
The people of today wouldn't be able to relate to that old-internet kind of thing, a modern stuck-in-the-internet isekai would have shit like people snapping under the pressure and permanently dying IRL because they were "toxic" in the game. No comfiness can be made from it because the modern internet is a dystopian hellscape. Could be a cool game idea though.
Ni No Kuni 2 was an isekai, you're the president of the not-USA, but the game's so shit they basically don't even do anything with it after the first hour because none of the characters in the game are fleshed out at all.
(me)
Got distracted and submitted the post too early, I'm dumb, NNK1 was also an isekai, though it's pretty unique in that the MC can go back and forth between both worlds pretty easily after a bit.
isekai is all over video games too. Ever heard of a Link to the Past? Super Mario 64? Metroid Prime 2? Spyro?
Literally anything where you jump through a portal into a level is basically isekai
Isekai is a shit genre
it's not a genre. it's a theme
Ultima is actually an isekai.
Kingdom Hearts. Dude are you moronic? Kingdom Hearts is the OG isekau video game. It's a video game about world traveling.
was going to try and debate you, but i remember the lion king world, and how sora was tech turned into a lion, and then i remembered the nightmare before christmas world, and it's absolutely an isekai wtf
Isekai animes are just an advertisement for their light novel counterparts. Almost all isekai LNs are published and printed by Kadokawa.
So it's not that isekais are popular, but Kadokawa is forcing it down everyone's throats to support their LN sales.
isekais are popular among light novel writers because it's a cheap, lazy way to set up your story. MC is a fish out of water that needs everything explained to him, setting can be tailored for maximum wish fulfillment, MC can have whatever backstory and skills the writer wants without any explanation or portrayal in a mundane setting, etc
Read what I said.
I didn't say why isekai is popular among LN writers. I said why it's shoved down our throats.
moron. Most isekai novels (and a ton of light novels in general) are just published versions of web novels that authors were writing on their own and then got published later. They're so abundant because they're easy to write and japs unfortunately do like reading the genre.
Idiot.
I said why it's so numerous because it's shoved down. Just because lots of authors write that shit doesn't mean it's popular. There's tons of shit out there that doesn't get past.
Get some reading comprehension.
isekai fans are the Black folk of anime fans.
>he doesnt know
>Becomes an RTS a third of the way through the game
What the frick were they thinking
A BAD RTS too, it played like a shit chore, and distanced you from all the cool shit in the game.
Couldn't most fish out of water stories be considered isekai? idk i avoid the genre like a plague
>Couldn't most fish out of water stories be considered isekai
Essentially, that is the appeal of the whole genre: seeing someone adapt to their new surroundings and clash with new cultures or ideas. Of course, that is mostly an excuse to have a power fantasy but eh, details.
not every isekai is a fish out of water. some japanese salary men have a personality better suited for the dystopain fantasy world which is why they are summoned in the first place.
I saw a Chinese Isekai drama where the guy is a cutthroat business man who gets hit by a truck and finds himself in Ancient China where he quickly establishes himself and thrives as a merchant by outsmarting officials.
It's not always fish out of water.
Ya, badically. Alot of the new fotm seasonal animes are pretty much isekais in tone, plot, and setting. But the protag was technicaly from that world so some say it's not. Redo of a Healer for example. Has all the tropes of a generic isekai, but it technically isn't.
There’s a couple vidya adaptations of isekai anime. Also Re: Fantazio although that one’s looking to be more of a deconstruction
Because 90% of Isekai anime exist as a power fantasy that allows the regular bland MC to be over powered with little explanation by adding video game elements.
The MC is OP because he's max level/has a broken skill or ability he didn't have to work for!
It goes against an integral part of video games - a sense of progression.
What about games like Prototype? Or musou games.
I think OP's point was that there were no video games that embrace the current Japanese isekai tropes.
He would kill SHITku with ONE SWING.
Because being warped to a video game world is more exciting than say, an anime world.
Though a cartoon world would be fun to see an isekai game of.
>forgetting that the first fully-realized platforming game ever made is an isekai
mario is only isekai in the movie lore. aka not canon to the games.
original super mario brothers is an isekai
pokemon mystery dungeon is a series of isekai games
klonoa is an isekai
you sound as young as you type
The entire Ultima Series was Isekai before Isekai was named,
Does KH count as isekai?
Why would it? There's no grounded real world that even exists for normal humans, just some beach and a bunch of disney worlds, which makes the whole Darkness and Heartless "threats" even stupider
>There's no grounded real world that even exists for normal humans
Uh, anon? You do know what happens at the end of KH3 and what's coming in kH4, right?
Not quite, KH is about worldhopping and not Isekai
As of kh3/4.
Yes
Disney's Extreme Skate Adventure is my favorite isekai
>he never got trapped in the new world of street fighter 3
>it's almost nowhere to be found in vidya
deltarune
A vidya about a guy isekai'd to a standard JRPG setting and deconstructing jrpg and vidya tropes could be funny. There's a new isekai manga about a guy isekai'd into the game he speedruns and beating it with the any% route. It's pretty funny
If I have to hear another JRPG mention the fricking crystals again I'm gonna lose it.
Heh
I wouldn't consider speedruning any% with gear gates a valid run, though
Better than glitch or TAS, but that's something I'd actually read
Gear gating being a thing in an any% run is fine if there are interesting ways to route it to get the gear needed.
If it's some game with randomized loot drops then it's cancer
>If I have to hear another JRPG mention the fricking crystals again I'm gonna lose it.
QRD?
JRPGs typically have the protagonist gather "The sacred crystals" to save things
sauce? cant find it on yandex
It should come up as Isekai RTA
>500 runners
>popular
Dark souls has less then 400 runners on speedrun.com, so that is fairly popular. Nintendo games speedrunner count is on a whole other level however.
With all the mobileshit and Roblox games, I can't even use those numbers as a baseline anymore.
Pointing out all the RPG bullshit doesn't work in an actual video game unless you're trying to make a parody and at that point, you may as well watch an isekai for free instead of paying $60.
Why would you want the isekai plague to metastasize? What's OPs endgame, the death of all creativity everywhere?
kicking-werewolves-in-the-nuts simulator isekai
Decent game but frick that cliffhanger ending.
Never heard of this game, looked up gameplay, looks alright, would have liked it as a kid.
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whats isekai mean?
Is isekai really that prevalent? I see people mentioning it all the time. I used to watch a lot of anime 10 - 15 years ago, but not really anymore. Only recent one I've seen is skeleton knight in another world, and of course I know of overlord.
I don't know the translation, but the premise basically revolves around a main character getting transported to an unfamiliar world or dimension in some way.
>Is isekai really that prevalent?
Yes. Just taking a quick look, this current anime season has like 7 or 8 isekai shows airing.
Role-playing game simulator.
Kadokawa actually had to put an embargo on it because so many people kept trying to pitch isekais to them.
When a character from real life (usually a relatively normal average person) is transported to an alternate universe (usually a fantasy world with magic) and becomes the hero of that world. Notable isekai media include The Wizard of Oz, The Chronicles of Narnia, Peter Pan, etc.
Japanese isekai tend to be about getting transported into a walmart brand fantasy RPG world. It's not that common of a setting for videogames because the whole "fantasy RPG world" thing makes it a bit redundant, but there are still a few like FF Tactics Advance
You'd think someone would've made something about people from Earth being transported to another world only to see other people from Earth and have the story revolve around that plot element alone.
Maybe it already exists and I'm just a contentlet, idk.
The riverworld series.
Close but I was more thinking that they'd end up on a world already populated by people who also don't know what's going on.
>it's almost nowhere to be found in vidya
Pokemon Arceus was Isekai
Digimon Survive was Isekai
SD Gundam Battle Alliance was Isekai
Dragonball Xenoverse was Isekai
Jump Force was Isekai
Deltarune was Isekai
Cassette Beasts was Isekai
Saints Row 4 was Isekai
Hogwarts Legacy was Isekai
BLACKSOULS was Isekai
A New Game was Isekai
and there's a bunch of others. There's a lot of vidya out there OP,you can't catch them all.
Essentially its when the main character gets taken to or travels to another world.
>names 90% japgames
well no shit gay. name western isekai. i think of Eragon but that shit got hollywood ESG'd just like the dragonball movie. they tried to do it with resident evil but it backfired
>name western isekai
>Deltarune was Isekai
>Cassette Beasts was Isekai
>Saints Row 4 was Isekai
>Hogwarts Legacy was Isekai
Bro Eragon wasn't isekai.
t. read the books like 6 times
Different world is the literal translation.
The literal translation is "Another World".
It's a catch-all for when the protagonist is from Earth but finds himself in a fictional world.
Think Narnia.
We had our own пoпaдaнцы genre in Russia for ages before the SAO boom. Only it was cheap fiction books with moronic premises that make History Channel look good.
Elden ring may as well be isekai
Wasn't Stranger of Paradise an isekai?
Frick isekai
Stop making the same fricking knockoff plot ten thousand times
Arx Fatalis is hard to view as an Isekai since we never see Am Shegar's original world with the Noden. He's implied to be a kind of demi-god made of pure energy there and was just transformed into a human on Arx. It's also not implied to be akin to the real world it's more like Mount Olympus.
I do really wish we could see it though. There's a guy on moddb working on developing an sdk for Arx so hopefully it can happen with mods. That and being able to see the surface of Arx since ingame it's just the dungeon.
what would the plot even be? an isekai game set in another world would literally just be a normal video game. e.g. sent to a fantasy world, it's just a normal fantasy game, maybe you have some fish out of water humor with the protag but that's it. who cares
cmon op lol
gamers already roleplay as the characters they play, we dont need to isagay its redundant we are already isagay
The biggest video game franchise in the world started out as an isekai
>>it's almost nowhere to be found in vidya
Good.
Isekai genre is the true form of ultimate cancer
vidya are already an isekai
you (player) are going into the fantasy world and taking on your new role as hero/whatever
Cause isekai is shit you moron
You're right, we would never stand for shit games.
Because the concept of vidya is already isekai.
You're immersing yourself in another world.
Isekai exists on Anime ane Manga mostly because they need to explain (you) with copious exposition the rules of the world.
Video games can afford to actually build the world and have you be the one to explore rather than have the story explore the world for you.
99% of jrpgs is just native isekai
i want a comfy rpg like the isekai animes, but literally none of them exist.
like an mmo world with an adventurers guild, and basic D&D monsters with leveling being very slow and some intricate class /skills system
basically all present day mmos bum rush you to max level as fast as they can, and give you 5 levels just for completing the 10 minute intro tutorial to the game
Elona gives me the closest feeling to this. There is minimal plot and you can easily ignore what is there to do whatever the hell you want, like fishing, farming, being a merchant or exploring dungeons.
Is life in Wyoming really like that?
Sounds pretty cool anon.
I want that for us too
STATUS
There's a whole ass Pokemon series about being a isekai
isekai never adds anything to the story and is only used as a lazy copout as opposed to writing a real intro and hook
All japanese Isekai does is put the characters in the exact same Korean MMO, not in a Fantasy world. You can do the same right now by booting up one of these games
I'm trying to figure out if this is an isekai or not. I don't think it is, but it carries a lot of the same tropes. I think it might be trying to parody it mostly considering the main side character gets hit by a truck and fricking dies in the first 5 minutes.
There is plenty. But they all suck.
For some reason, Japanese people are obsessed with making new worlds for every single new release in a series, and those are as shallow as a rain puddle.
Harry Potter is an isekai.
Any game that acknowledges the player technically
Because it fricking sucks and is massively over-represented in anime/manga/LNs specifically because there is a subset of wretched otaku who will gobble up anything that follows the same formulaic 'It's standard isekai but X' bullshit that gets put in front of them because anything that is outside their comfort zone is unpalatable, and they are content to wallow until they die and rot into the floorboards of their NEETcave for two months until the landlord/parent comes to check on them and discovers their moldering corpse.
Maybe like 1% of them are anything other than irredeemable garbage.
None of the games posted in this thread appeal to the isekai power fantasy trend of being thrown into your comfy fantasy/vidya world and being overpowered thanks to your meta knowledge and/or otherworldly abilities.
I think a game like GTA but in a fantasy world would be perfect. An open world where you can just run around, beat up people, do fun activities, and do the main story if you want to.
Isekai, more so modern(last 5-7 years) isekai, are about the instant gratification of the reader and power fantasy obtained with 0 effort from the self-insert character
This does not translate well into games, where you'd have to at least grind a few hours to obtain the level of power the isekai MC gets by the end of the first chapter/episode
>you HAVE to grind, this is the definition of a video game
Why are MMOdrones like this?
>moron misses the point entirely
found the isekai fan
I get your point, you're saying instant gratification doesn't translate well into video games. This simply is a moronic take
>This simply is a moronic take
How so?
There are plenty of games about just turning it on and having fun killing shit
GTA / Postal / any game besides RPGs really
The RPGfication of all AAA games is a cancer killing our fun to increase our playtime through addictive systems
>GTA / Postal / any game besides RPGs really
Yeah but those games are more about giving the player the option to go wild, not about instantly handing you nukes to drop on anyone that passes by, so I think we are talking about slightly different things
isekai in games was a much bigger thing in the 90s and early 00s. we moved away from it because it is mostly a lazy convention for easily have a character be as confused by the games world as the player is, which would then give a chance for exposition. that being said, any game that has characters interacting through an mmo or some shit like .hack is an isekai, kingdom hearts is an isekai, spyro 2 is an isekai, scaler is an isekai. anything that has one character going from their universe to another is an isekai, it doesn't just have to be from "real life" into some other universe. and isekai plots have been done for a looong time. wizard of oz is an isekai. so is space jam.
Harem Kingdom is pretty alright.
I don't know, but isekai is kino.
>SO TURN AWAY OR FACE THE DAY WIIIIIIIIIITTTTH MEEEEEEEE
What would isekai add to the game over a plain fantasy one besides an annoying MC talking the forspoken woman?
*ahem*