>It was all a dream!
I hate modern writing. You can do whatever you want with a script, without logic, rules or consistency, if it can be wrapped up with a "and then we close the book lol".
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Yes, we know you don't own a PS5 and can't afford video games, but please stop making threads that kill actual video game discussion.
>has to purposely be moronic and misinterpret the ending to shitpost about this game
This is how you know shitposters are desperate
Is there any proofs the doomleaks are real outside of some screenshots that don't prove anything?
Fake news!
At least we get romance-KINO
You REALLY REALLY love that image
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/QxDgR2k1TyVnARRY%2BOBIcQ%3D%3D/
Yes, I am a fan of romance-KINO. That's what my post said...
It looks like gay
Isn't this, like everything else in the game just Joshua making shit up?
After all, it's just a fairy tale, how else would he have knowledge of the alien coitus?
>modern writing
No fricking way they actually took this route. I had little interest in nu-FF but frick me, I hate shitty twists that basically make it all a pointless game.
No way
Qrd?
LOTR ending
The man doesn't understand what a fricking book is
And you don't understand why people don't want to play a game that just goes "lmao it was all fake and never happened" at the end. No matter if it was a dream or a book, it's a shitty moronic twist for fart sniffing hacks who think it will blow everyone's mind if they pull a "gotcha!" at the end
You definitely sound like you have an axewound to grind
Do trannies believe that "it was all fiction" twists are good?
This is the saddest anti-shill campaign I've ever seen. Dude is baffled by how a cultural mythology works. Why even larp like some counter-culture warrior and poo poo the idea of playing an epic jrpg set in a fictional culture's past? Clive is basically a race father. You okay?
It’s beyond funny since you know he’ll have to keep this braindead shit up for years
Clive is a white chad who through sheer force of will and love for his people overcomes the wardens of Time and History. I hate how you bugbrained cuckolds always insist on dying on the most bugbrained hills
It wasnt a twist, the game is actually fiction. You do know that the final fantasy series isn't historical accounts of real things that happened, right?
>actually being this saturated with seed oils
Bro do you know what a book is? Are americans this alienated from myth and legend?
It's australian aboriginal to be exact, very low iq
Jesus fricking CHRIST do you ever stop thinking about Barry for 5 seconds? You might as well fly over there and frick him, you're basically soulmates with how much he lives rent free in your head
>LE MYTHS AND LEGENDS
First off, not a burger. Second of all, its a videogame. If I wanted "myths and legends" I would take a trip to a library. But having an already fictional piece of media with a fictional story and then going "HAHA GOTCHA IT WAS ALL FICTION IT WAS FAKE IT NEVER HAPPENED" at the end is just peak moronation that you can expect only from modern Square
That's only one interpretation of events
Curiously it's the least charitable, most inexplicable and by far the fricking dumbest
>uuuh if I wanted medieval kingdoms I'd just read a history book
>myths and legends are not based on truth or at least a kernel of truth
A burger in spirit if not in birth. Sad.
Its funny how Final Fantasy 15: 2 shills will jusst accept anything. You're even more pathetic cuckhold bugmen than Baryy, HOLY FRICKING SHIT WHAT AN ACHIEVEMENT
>um... it has homosexuals in it? Well, who cares? Gays are actually pretty cool though... I mean if a guy was hot I'd let him frick my ass and eat his cum, gays are cool
>theres trannies in it? Bro, what's the problem? Theres nothing wrong with having a trans person in your game
>an already fictional story pulls a IT WAS ALL FICTION twist at the end? Whats wrong, are you TOO DUMB to understand such a intelectual and complex ending?
Mass suicide now
Stopped reading when you booted up culture_war.exe.
That's been our running cope. Turn every negative into a positive.
P. S. 24FPS is more than enough for a game designed to run on PS5
>an already fictional story pulls a IT WAS ALL FICTION twist at the end? Whats wrong, are you TOO DUMB to understand such a intelectual and complex ending?
Actually, yes. You are too dumb to understand such a simple premise.
who are you quoting?
I see this cataclysmic event has created Barry's nemesis. The Reverse Barry.
Already a better origin story than anything in FF16.
Holy phoneposting Batman
BARRY ARE YOU OKAY!?
BARRY ARE YOU OKAY!?
ARE YOU OKAY BARRY!?
>"lmao it was all fake and never happened" at the end
that just in your head, anybody above 100iq know this interpretation is moronic
homie, the implication isn't that the story never happened, but that it's framed as a history book.
Reviews out today get ready for another meltdown when it's scoring better than XV
>when it's scoring better than XV
Not an achievement.
According to everybody else, it is.
It's objectively better than the game that destroyed the series reputation, that's a good thing
It's worse than xv in every aspect and ff14 and 16 killed ff reputation
16 got a higher famitsu score so it's literally objectively better than 15
it got lower than 13-2
16 scored higher than 15, the game that ruined the series reputation
actually 16 scored the same as ff type0 and xv scored the same as ff7
And FF 16 destroys it even futher by becoming Sonyshit with moronic writing and gay shit
Cope.
Fricking this. XV sucked fat wiener. Sucking small wiener instead isn't a marketable upgrade.
The piece of shit barry makes shitting on gay fantasy xvi worse seems shilling rather than it deserve it for blocking females and giving us troony alien.
Remember how Yoshi bragged about FF16 having a complete story while pissing on 15? Yeah, that glass house is looking mighty thin now.
Karma is a b***h.
IT WAS ALL A DREAM I USED TO READ WORD UP MAGAZINE
THAT'S WHY I FRICKED YO WIFE YOU FAT b***h (GET MONEY)
> My nogger Cutter used to rape kids. Frick them in the ass, throw them over the bridge.
They even admit they are homosexual rapists.
Kino...
ff15 famitsu score: 38
ff16 famitsu score: 39
The leak threads were kino
The game actually sounded based right until Ultima showed up and it just kept getting worse, the reactions in the thread to the ending were priceless
But the best part of ff xvi is baiting normalgays into thinking it’s some generic western fantasy shit. And then going full anime jrpg with ayyys. Killing Gods, super power ups and wholesome vanilla romances.
Did they really pull a Tales of Arise?
Even the gameplay is tales of arise anon
Didn't tales of arise have a good ending though?
I mean any ending would not have been good enough for Barry
But at least with this ending he is forced to pretend to be so moronic he can't understand the concept of a book
Doesn't make sense, why would kids read a book with sex scenes?
>doesn't make sense, why would a person telling someone else a story recount every line of dialogue we hear in the flashback?
Why do you insist on being moronic
>It was all a FINAL FANTASY(TM), written by Joshua Rosfield
Now that I put it like that, it actually sounds worse.
Higher famitsu score as well
Famitsu are IGN of Japan
Also Nintendogs got a perfect score but not your beloved game LOL
Threadly reminder that the "leaker" is actually a viral marketer employed by Square Enix and paid to "leak" the story details /here/, to get people talking.
Now they're running damage control to distract people from criticism by saying basically, “shut up Barry” in a pathetic attempt to "trigger me".
He never acknowledged why he had a digital copy and refused to post the disc. Notice how they just fricked off after doing an AMA like a r*dditard PR marketing dept?
inb4 I'm Barry.
>Square Enix thinks people will be in awe after reading spoilers and run to the store to get a copy
>people start shitting on it
>accusation of being BARRY skyrocket
This marketing team is getting fired for sure.
We're all Barry now.
It's good to be Barry
Why did I read it in Soldier's voice from Overwatch?
FFgays are fricking unhinged schizos, kek. Once the story took a nosedive after Ultimas introduction they kept calling everyone Barry who mocked the plot in the leakthreads
I remember that. That was actually kinda funny because it suddenly became painfully obvious that the only defense they had was to project onto one nutjob. Not knowing that by calling everyone Barry they were uniting those people under a common (a moronic, but common) banner.
>kept calling everyone Barry
Do actually believe the morons here are smart enough to meme to life a made up notorious shitposter from australia?
Do you actually they have the brain cells to make effective use of a sock puppet punching bag to dismiss all kinds criticism towards their favorite FF?
Lol this webm + being called barry is what broke the turnbased gay.
Some people can't handle banter
hfr bombed and sold less than Forspoken
>1 minute between posts
Go read your joshua fanfic
the story is bad because nothing is even resolved properly, it just happens offscreen somehow
>the story is bad because nothing is even resolved properly, it just happens offscreen somehow
but enough about FF15
>posts an end of year 2017-2018 new year sale in JAPAN ONLY at literally ONE (1) store in the entire country AFTER it already sold over 1m at full price in Japan and over a whole year after launch only then went on a limited time sale at a single store during 2018 new years that only lasted a week before royal edition was announced in January 2018 and back atfullprice
>ffxvvanilla in 2020 was back at full priceagain too
cope moron
XVsold 6mfull price in a month and still was 4 mobths after release, the rest of 2017 from april onward was sold at nearfullpriceto half priceat lowest doing another 1m, then in 2018 it was back atfullpriceand sold another 1.4m, then sold another 1m at nearfullpriceto halfpricethrough 2019 then only in December 2019 officialpricewas now $35-$40 and only ever lowest official at $17.50 where it only did 500k at thisprice
It literally sold basically 80% at full price
meanwhile og ff7 sold over 70% at literally bargain bin $6-$12 for 20+ years
also noctis literally resolves stuff on screen
cope
barry I already saw you reply the first time no need to reply twice
I thought Japan didn't allow trash cans to be out in the open??
16s ending is literally resolved offscreen with no explanation how the blight was counteracted
ending the crystal didn't reverse the blight
The story isn't about clearing the blight you absolute moron. This is not the starscourge from XV.
Its literally the entire reason they arr trying to destroy the crystal you tard
blight ends without magic you god damn dipshit, the crystals are dead and so is magic, so no blight. fricking sub 10 iq assclown.
Black person
The fricking blight doesn't suddenly get unfricking done by destroying the crystal
The world is fricked and there is no indication showing how society counteracted it
IT DOES YOU FRICKING moronic FRICK
THE BLIGHT EXISTS BECAUSE OF MAGIC, CLIVE LITERALLY SAYS HUMANITY WILL PULL THROUGH
>The fricking blight doesn't suddenly get unfricking done by destroying the crystal
Actually yes, normal people can kill blight creatures. But more importanlty it stops progressing/getting stronger with no magic.
moron the fricking blight is decaying the world itself not just producing monsters
Doesn't matter because it is decaying the world as a response to magic being used. If there's no magic, it won't decay anything for shit anymore. It's a non issue once magic is gone. You said it yourself : that's why Cid wanted the crystals gone, it was Cid's final solution.
Huh? The crystals are destroyed. What more do you want? The humans have adapted to not using magic. The reason why they're destroying the crystals in the first place.
A game can't tell a story based off a story within the game? Just because it's a book, doesn't mean the event that are being told didn't happen. Have you played FFT? The entire events is a retelling of Orran Durai's papers by Alazlam Durai. This shit is basic ass story-telling my guy.
Just like how "it was all a dream" is basic storytelling and nobody likes it too
But it's not "it was all a dream" now is it.
It doesn't show how the blight was counteracted at all
16 has the worst ending in the series
Now that's one big ass copium.
now this is some copium
if it wasnt cured then thats even fricking worse because everything is just dead
more copium
except it is about stopping it you lying homosexual
>killing the earth
throug THE BLIGHT
how are you this fricking moronic
read:
you illiterate fricknugget, a literal braindead potato has more value then you.
>READ!!!!!S!!!!!!!
Braindead fricking clown
The blight LITERALLY cannot exist without magic you moronic son of a b***h with zero reading comprehension
Barry has gone full on assault, he doesn't care anymore.
FFXVI is coming out.
XVI cultists literally defending it was all a book ending
NO IT FRICKING DOESN'T YOU Black person homosexual
The blights damage doesn't GET UNDONE just because the crystals are destroyed you frick
>pull through
>offscreen with no explanation how
>can't even read the post and the post that links to the post
And with this i'm out, frick you barry you god damn dipshit, stop flooding the board with your illiteracy.
But the story isn't about CLEARING the blight. Destroying the crystal STOPS the blight from spreading. You absolute fricking moronic pakistani inbred frick.
You are a Stroud fricking Black person they are literally destroying the crystals to stop the blight yet it doesn't magically get undone you spastic Black person homosexual
Fricking hell, how are you still this fricking dumb. Did you watch the ending of FFVII and went mad because the story doesn't explain to you how Midgar went green despite it being a desolate wasteland after years of Mako pumping? Fricking hell.
Prove the blight wasn't cured
The blight doesn’t matter. The entire reason the blight happened is due to overuse in magic. Ultima’s race can’t deal with it since they are magic incarnate. Once Clive removes magic the blight can be dealt with
The blight is not the starscourge from XV you absolute moronic frick. The story isn't about clearing it. It's about destroying the crystal that are killing the earth and help human move forward, away from the crystals and magic. Fricking hell, just how fricking stupid are you.
Random shitters like wade and Tyler can kill blight creatures. The problem with the blight isn’t dealing with it, it’s stopping it, and we know blight is a result of magic use. It’s a really on the nose commentary on the environment and why the heckin mother crystals are treated like oil reserves
you are genuinely moronic and have no worth communicating with, fricking dipshit assmunch.
xiv cultists are on full damage control
the stuff cid and mid were establishing around places to improve society
>One game was critical success and gets surprise dlc
>Other game is critical failure that killed studio and sells less than 100 dlc
Lel
Kek even
Forspoken actually sold more than hfr Nd got actual dlc and the devs are in cbu2 at SE and making new aaa existing SE IP game and still doing engine dev
the head of hfr studio literal got outed of the studio a week after it released
but keep spouting lies
>1 hour public tech demo
>Forspoken 2 confirmed
Don't overdose on copium lmfao
Lol I can shit on FFXVI and on your games too, Barry
Yet ff16 has worse graphics and combat and performance
You can't be serious.
its true
learn to read moron
Look at him go!
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/avlpu5Rd7DmIcnj1XVa%2FnQ%3D%3D/
Shame about her in game model...
Picrel is ultra settings 4k btw
>We boosted Hogwarts Legacy to #1 just to dunk on trannies
The other homosexuals have to get there through marketing big spending and unnatural shilling lol
>claims HFR sold less units
>sends a revenue-based chart when Forspoken cost twice as much
are you moronic?
hfr was in development longer than Forspoken and had a aaa bethesda microsoft budget
it bombed
>Rhythm based action game
>somehow not a blockbuster
Colour me shocked.
>appeal to furries
>still fail
I'm glad.
That's corpo speak for ''We made money,but not all the money''
When it started production it was literally just 2 people working on it for a year lmao
team was probably smaller than Forspoken's as a whole
bigger team than Forspoken had when it started out and had a bigger team during actual full dev than Forspoken did
proof?
>digital sales not included
Ignoring crucial details to support your made up narrative is fun for you apparently, is it not?
digital sales are included you illiterate frick
only games with an * by their name don't include it
>Barry is so obsessed with getting assfricked by Gladiolus that he tricked himself into liking the ebonics isekai game even he probably hates
>he'll be doing this until the day he croaks, being laughed at all the way
It's all so delicious.
>He never acknowledged why he had a digital copy and refused to post the disc
No he did.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/641377427/#641379778
>the "leaker" is actually a viral marketer employed by Square Enix and paid to "leak" the story details /here/, to get people talking.
>this is what schizos genuinely believe
XVIgays were never sane.
what? why would think that post was from a 16 gay? It's the anti-16 gays that have been going completely mentally ill these past few days.
He's genuinely fricking moronic.
>wall-o-text
>not triggered
Was it implied to be a fictional book, or a retelling of events that actually happened? Haven’t been following the spoilers.
So why did 16 get 1 point higher than 15? Was it because the MC actually got laid? Or the story had an ending
The 1 point minus was the gay kissing scene.
Was it noct and prompted? Guess I forgot that
I'm talking about XVI.
Otherwise XVI is perfecto.
So what streamer y’all watching since no one is buying this game.
I think I'll grab a quiet longplay on YouTube without commentary. And probably quit halfway through because I've heard it falls off quite hard.
I only read this post hoping it was a funny adaptation of Juicy lyrics. Thanks for wasting my time, gay.
How exactly did it end? Is it being a fictional story in some other world different than it just being a fictional vide game story?
The problem for a lot of people is that this means that none of what we did happened in their world either. It's all just make-believe and this is a great cope for when people inevitably start finding flaws in the writing.
>"Oh but it was just a fantasy book written by an autists, so you can't fault writing problems!"
This shit happens all the time with movies.
Game ends with the whole story being revealed to have been part of a book called Final Fantasy written by Joshua Rosfield, being read by two children.
Its referred to as a fairy tale in by the mother of the two.
>written by Joshua Rosfield
They really missed their chance to put "Written by ChatGPT", now that what I call en ending
Seems a little grim for a children's fairy tale
Magic is erased from the world
The events of the game are retold as a book.
Modern day people regard it as a fairy tale since magic doesn't exist in the world anymore
People misinterpret this ending to think that none of the events of the game happened.
does this magic actually exist in the past? like is there some proof?
t. clueless gay who doesnt follow the current ff story.
>like is there some proof
no. there's no actual proof that anything that the game just showed actually happened and wasn't just part of a the fairy tale story the kids read.
wait, so it's basically just a dad reading bedtime story to his kids? right?
basically yes
Why not just play the game at this point?
Everything in that spoiler is the ending
everyone relied on crystals and magic
Clive got rid of it
now history regards them as old fictional tales.
there's several paragraphs of context that you'd need to understand it all
i just wanna know the story/ending/lore, not interested in playing. Same with dark soles/bb/elden/sekiro etc, i only watch the story on youtube.
So is this Clive still alive now? is he related to this dad who read the book to his kids?
Black person just watch a lets play
i might later, gotta finishing my job first. For now i just want to know the spoiler.
It's implied Clive is alive
>like is there some proo
how can you event prove the existence of a concept that no longer exist in the world.
the only way would be photo/video but that not available here.
yeah it existed in the past. you play as the protag to remove all magic in all kingdoms because it caused civil war, racial hatred, and class division among humanity. you wipe it out entirely so evety human would be on an equal footing instead of some being treated like literal deities
>to remove all magic in all kingdoms because it caused civil war, racial hatred, and class division among humanity. you wipe it out entirely so evety human would be on an equal footing instead of some being treated like literal deities
that is how humans work
You forgot the part where magic literally kills the planet.
there is no proof at the end of anything it likely is all fake
Isn't this similar to Lightning returns ending?
The part where magic is gone and Lightning gets off a train in France
Why are jap writers obsessed with stories ending by removing all magic from the world until it looks like our world?
It's how they interpret/visualize free will. It's basically every JRPG since the 90's.
To the japs, having magic means fate is deterministic?
The holaucaust never happened because it is written in books. Thanks for proving my point Barry.
what if we are a book, bros?
I hate when the plot of something ends up being ‘magic disappearing from the world’. The closest thing to that, that I enjoy is FFX, where all the summons disappear, but that’s just one part.
Ban OP for spoilering
>it's literally a story
>LOLOLOLO THIS MEANS THE STORY IS BAD!
Why?
Because a game is already a fictional story
Giving it a "haha it was a story all along" ending is just peak moronation
Good thing it doesn't do that.
Tourist here.
QRD? What's the plot of the game and how does it drop off after ultima?
It does the lotr ending and some brown skins think it’s a meta ending trying to tell the audience it’s not fiction
>ITS JUST LIKE LOTR BROOOOO
Please don't compare hacky asiatic writing to literature's classics ever again
LOTR is essentially a glorified LARP report written by a turboautist with too much time on his hands.
There's nothing wrong with comparing two things. You know a burger is better than literal shit by comparing them.
See? Imagine being this brown
Lotr is westoidslop, this shit is nipslop. Same entry level trash for low IQ morons not surprised they use the same lazy ending
then explain how joshua wrote a book after he fricking died let alone knew about the parts neither he nor clive were present for
Already been explained to you hundreds of times brainlet.
Nothing was explaining you fricking shill
He doesnt because his book is just his adventure
meanwhile Joshua's moronic book would have to have all that shit about ultima he wasn't there for otherwise it makes 0 fricking sense
>ESL
Frick off
>He doesnt because his book is just his adventure
Then how the frick does he know about the shit that was going on during the Two Towers and Return of the king? If the book is just his adventures, then most of it will be about him and Samwise.
stop engaging, they don't believe what they are saying, they just go for the worst possible interpretation because they want to shit on the game
>The book is just his adventure
>Has multiple POV of shit he shouldn't know about, such as most Saruman scenes
Lol, lmao even.
>Has multiple POV of shit he shouldn't know about, such as most Saruman scenes
what is in the book is not what happens in the game... the book version is a dumb down version for moronic children. You don't play the book, the book is just a vague retelling of Clive's adventures.
Anon you are making too much sense, they doomtrannies are devolving their brains in order to shit on the game so this won't make sense to them
So... Where is the problem then?
idk bro , a few guys are adamant about the book at the end being actually 100% what is happening in the game and I don't know why.
That's because LotR is not diegetic, mr. brainlet. LotR is not written by Frodo.
It is, though.
The book is. The moves aren't.
Bruv, it's Joshua
The game tells you it's Joshua
Fricking get over it moronic Schizo
>The game tells you it's Joshua
>who is dead at the end
>who is never shown writing this stuff down like bilbo or frodo
How did Frodo know about all the shit neither he or any ME protagonist were present for?
Yoshida dickriders have really latched onto this cope, haven't they? Kek. I'm gonna wait until you get inevitably btfo'd by the guy you worship as he confirms the meta ending.
>the guy you worship as he confirms the meta ending
you are coping hard, he already teased a sequel, your book cope will push you to suicide.
>teased a sequel
LMAO. Not happening. Golden Compass and Shyamalans Last Airbender are gonna get their epic grand cliffhanger conclusion sequel before this wienertail of worst GoT, worst Ivalice and worst Xeno shitstew all thrown together ever gets a sequel
Its over for Yoshit Piss' upward mobility in the company. He'll be stuck making Golbez filler arcs with literal pajeet main characters forever
Can you say that without buzzwords, please?
Those two movies I mentioned (which came before your time since youre a zoomer BLM troony) were notorious flops that were intended to be the first entry in an grand epic saga envisioned their studios and directors but turned out to be so laughably bad that everyone made fun of the creators' delusion that the masses would be clamoring for sequels to them
Thats whats happening her with Yoshit Piss. He thinks he just created the gaming equivalent of the first LOTR or Harry Potter movie when in reality he created Battlefield Earth lmao
>which came before your time since youre a zoomer BLM troony
Black Mage isn't a very zoomer job, anon.
>Yoshit Piss
I said without buzzwords! Silly anon
>Golden Compass
>Last Airbender
These two movies aren't old at all.
ancient alien trannies want to to create a new world without the blight and the current world was made so everything ends up with clives being the body they need to be able to create said new world
but clives will prevents them from body snatching so the ayylmaos fuse with others of its species which are basically all just ifrits and then clive somehow defeats it and destroys the crystals
but the blight is never stopped and clive dies and joshua dies too
then somehow joshua wrote a book called final fantasy in a time without magic implying everything in the game was just a made up story
>in a time without magic
Wow. It's almost as if the plot of the story was about them ending magic.
Yet they are back to living in mudhuts despite them having technology? get fricked
>we have advanced technology so no one lives in shitty huts
So why are mudhut peasants able to read yet alone in possession of books? it makes no fricking sense
moron the blight is the world itself decaying alongside all the monster's being wraught
also wade and tyler only defeated shit because clive was with them
What technology?
It’s not a mud hut
I think FFX did the “Another villain hijacks the plot” thing the best so far, given this game’s leaks
Ultima appears very early in the story though.
Yu Yevon didn’t hijack the plot though
My theory is that it wasn't a dream but a book written by Clive about the game's events. At the start of the game you can hear a narrator who's probably Clive. And about the author being named Joshua it's probably just a pseudonym Clive's used in honor of his brother who saved his life.
why use a pseudonym there's no point
also if clive is alive that literally deus ex machina because of metia
I actually explained my point in the very same sentence. And the voice at beginning sounds a hella lot like a older Clive narrating a book.
My theory is that both Clive died and Joshua died. Jill smiles at the end after hearing Torgal's howl because she realizes they can finally be together. They have a son, Joshua Rosfield, who writes Final Fantasy and never mentions Clive or the first Joshua by name, only the eikons.
>ITT:morons who never played FFT and are sperging like the manchildren they are.
it was not
>it was all a dream
Shit thread
Did Clive get laid at least?
GOTY.
Is that Jill?
Yes.
Nice fanfiction, Joshua.
Yep.
Big dump truck.
He doesn't actually exist so no, joshua just made up the entire thing in a book
Final Fantasy 15 is the greatest Final fantasy game they have ever made!!
Fact
I know it sucks.
Compare to this to notice how deep we have fallen: https://youtu.be/bRWkniXDC_4
Yeah frick that X has a shit ending, tearjerking for the sake of tearjerking.
>literally a dream
>this is good
>but "literally a dream" made up by a dumb indian
>this is bad
?
>moron complains about game being "just a dream"
>praises a game that literally ends with it's "just a dream"
It does not matter. There is nothing, NOTHING that he won't say to shit on 16, no position too fricking moronic or statement too incorrect
As a FFX fan I am disgusted how doomposters and contrarians have pretended to like a KINO game simply to try and tarnish another KINO game because they have no soul
XVI CHADS, don't worry. We stand in solidarity
I used to think older FF games had amazing stories but after experiencing random alien troony sex scene my tastes have matured too much to appreciate good character writing.
>XVIcucks confusing "the entire story was a dream" with "the intertwined world of the dead and the living is restored and the dead protag and the living best girl have to say a tearjerking goodbye"
did ffxv-kun mindbreak the ff fanbase?
>XVgay can't even understand a simple post
Well, it certainly helps explain why you think FFXVI's ending is all a dream.
>references 10 as a good FF ending when it's the same thing
>10 minutes later pretends that 16gays don't actually play other ff games
Its not the same thing. Tidus wasnt fake he was magic. Magic that summoners have, only ultra powerful ones though they can manifest their memories into physical things with MP.
and clive is not fake either, that such a ridiculous interpretation of the ending I legitimately can't tell if you are trolling.
The only one not fake was Joshua Rosfield.
how do you even arrive at that conclusion?
He is the author of the book. Everything else he coulda made tf up. How do you reach the conclusion that it was all facts?
>He is the author of the book. Everything else he coulda made tf up
just because something can happend doesn't mean it does, that just a stupid way to look at it.
>How do you reach the conclusion that it was all facts
I played the game, for me it's clear that clive is alive, for joshua Idk. the book was written by clive or joshua that also pretty obvious.
Why is it just Tidus and Auron? Who summoned these two? Not to mention, Auron (with glasses) for some existed during Tidus's timeline too.
?Auron wasn’t summoned, he was an unsent
>Not to mention, Auron (with glasses) for some existed during Tidus's timeline too.
Nope, you didn't understand the beginning of the game. Rewatch this cutscene.
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Yu Yevon he is the creator of Sin. I googled it just to remember the name but I remember it correctly it was a cultist. There is a summoner fricking everything up summoning all his memories back over and over. Thats the problem in the whole plot, when they kill Sin both the whale and the shit inside that kills him for good and finally his magic begins to fade, no more summoning old memories with cognition including individual will back.
>this is my story
How does tidus tell us his story if he disappears at the end help me bros I'm confused
To be fair Tightass only told the story until the party reached Zanarkand, the rest of the game he wasn’t a narrator
Proof?
sshhhhh.....ffxvi-gays havent played any of the other singleplayer ff games
they are just mindbroken ffxiv-gays
Why do you keep forcing this, its like when feminists pretend all men are rapists
FFX is not fake, that is a good story because Tidus is like a real-fiction, he does exist but he is made of the magic of a summoner that also summons himself summoning. The magic they are made of is physical, it vanishes once the summoner loop is over for good when Sin is dead. Tidus was part of sin whole summoned things basically. Anyway what they are made of is real tho.
16 and 10 have the same ending
I'm dead nooooooooo
ayylmao I lived b***h.
i like both of them.
Shhh... don't tell Bary this. Gaia fixed itself at the end of FFVII too. They didn't need to explain how. It just happened.
How is Tidus swimming at the end? This not make sense. He suppose to have dieded! This is deus ex machina.
>This is deus ex machina.
yes, it was, it was a stain on an otherwise nice bittersweet ending
Just an excuse to make the X-2 X-3 supposedly of Yuna searching for Tidus games.
>it was all a dream
>gunshot fade to black
what are other bad ending tropes?
Your gf cucks you and you cry to sleep.
>gunshot fade to black
filtered
>bad ending tropes
>your journey is finally complete after beating the endboss
>you can rest and live a happy life with your gf
>turns out you are trapped by the god of dreams in the dreamworld
>your bro that followed you on your journey finally reached you to save you
>proceed to kill said god
> after killing him, the true journey begins to defeat the true big bad
Barry really is a moron
FF16 has objectively the worst ending in Final Fantasy history, and the worst villain.
>freeing yourself from magic
It's literally Shin Getter Armageddon plot all over again.
Do we have giant skeleton of dragons around?
How did Bilbo and Frodo write There and Back again if they didn't fight in Helm's Deep or Minas Tirith?
You stupid fricking shills just won't stop talking about the ending. Great job Ganker! You fricking for the marketing shill's trap like good little goy.
He wouldn't even post the fricking disc. He had a digital copy. I know nuGanker is slow, but this means he has a digital copy. The only people with digital copies are Square Enix employees.
This is why we will never return to the golden age of Square Enix. You idiots just eat the slop and play the action slop games.
Now call me "Barry"/"turd based boomer"/"mad" in a futile attempt to "trigger me". Everyone is Barry now anyway. Long live King of Ganker Barry!
>He had a digital copy
So does IGN and Famitsu. You are mind broken
You're mind broken. You're Barry. Criticism deflected.
joke's on you, i don't even own a piss shit 5 nor will i buy this game on pc lmfao
sanest doomposter
There are easier way to trigger you
Here's one.
Even if it was a marketing ploy, it probably was, people do not care, cause they did an excellent job at hyping people up
Old square is gone, only indies bother making classic jrpgs, even if xvi fails this will not change.
You will never change anything
Oh yeah I'm so "triggered". The only thing triggering is that nuGanker just falls for viral marketing without even questioning it.
I have Dragon Quest XII to look forward to as well as side projects in the vein of Octopath. Enjoy discussing your action slop GoW shit zoomer.
Oh before I forget. You're Barry too.
I will!
Stay mad anon
OK Barry.
>I have Dragon Quest XII
This too. Stop pretending.
have a nice day doomposter/Barry. Turnbased chads will never accept you either.
Couldn't even resist calling me Barry for a single post. Typical of low IQ nu/v/
I'm done with you troglodytes.
It’s an in universe book.
No one b***hes about FF Tactics being a historical record that ends up being burned at the end of the game. No one goes “it was a pointless dream.” It makes you go “frick these Black folk never gonna know what really happened” as is the vibe I’m getting from this game.
It makes Barry fricking out of argument to shit on the games.
From the sounds of it, it's likely the event we see in the game are the actual events and not just Johsua's/Clive's recollection.
FF tactucs doesn't pull an its all just a made up book ending
ff16 does and every song person who plays it will shit on ot for that, all streamers will shit on it, their chat will shit on it
while the xiv cult desperately tries to claim xvi ending is like lotr when its contextually nothing alike
XVI doesn't either.
The book =/= 100% of XVI's events.
>The book =/= 100% of XVI's events.
Source?
There's actually no source saying the book covers 100% of XVI's events, and we shouldn't assume it does.
It's written by a character in the game, not that the game is based solely on that character's perspective.
Then what was the book about? How do you know its history or fiction? Whats your reasoning besides the dumb corny line of the MC at the end "i will make sure your fantasy is final". Do you got any evidence for deducing it was all physical in-game universe canon.
I dunno, to tell the story, except not all of it, for future generation?
What are books for?
>How do you know its history or fiction?
Don't matter. People still read the Trojan war or ROTK despite knowing some parts of them are fiction.
>What are books for?
To entretain, for example: fiction fantasy books.
>I ask how do you discren if its fact (a physical truth that happened) or fiction
>It doesn't matter
Maybe I'm asking because it matters. I think the ending sucks if it wasnt fact. We disagree about what matters in a good story that supposedly takes itself seriously. There is nothing more to discuss here you have shit taste for endings.
>I think the ending sucks if it wasnt fact.
LOL, wat?
OK, I will leave it to your opinion.
of course it ends in opinion. You are on this thread like: "why does everyone think the ending is shit? I think its good I dont get it??" thats our reasoning, it sucks because its not confirmed to have been factual, in fact it leads more on the side that it was a fictional fantasy book all along.
>How do you know its history or fiction
because while playing the game you got what actually happen, the book is just a farytale inspired by the events of the game.
proof
cope
xiv cultist malding
>u-ur just using ben shapiro moron logic!?
the ultimate xvi cultist cope
Yes it does you fricking moron
Yes it fricking does
See
Where's your proof that it was all a dream.
It being a book written by a dead person
How do you know it's the actual Joshua who wrote the book. And not say, someone else that uses it as a pen name.
Because if its not joshua then it makes even less sense
if its clive that literally means deus ex machina revived him from death
>Deus ex machina revived him from death
Except Clive never died.
Yes he did
he had the same petrified stone shit cid the other dominants who died in history get which means you are dying rapidly
there is no cure as it means clive would have died
yet suddenly metia vanishes
Not everybody died immediatly from the petrification (see sidequests about bearers) nor did we see Clive actually dying though. Aren't you just making shit up?
cid literally had it and was dying from it and its implied it was bad enough on clive that he died otherwise jill wouldn't have cried
>Cid had it.
So did bearers that didn't die immediatly from it.
>Jill cried!!
Because she saw a star (metia) vanishing and interpreted it as a bad omen (call back to Clive not returning 15 years ago). She didn't see Clive dying or anything like that.
You're literally making shit up anon...
Except something made Jill stop crying at the end when she saw something
Not really an asspull if it's implied, is it?
It is an asspull
when he's petrified and jill cries as she leaves clives side
>jill cries as she leaves clives side
Never happened so you're really making shit up.
now youre just coping
How did Jill leave Clive's side when he never went with him, Joshua and Dion? How am I coping when you're the one who's straight up lying?
I mean, Joshua is the phoenix. Dude was revived, in the story already. Even if it's not him, why does it make "even less sense"? It could be someone who saw the event, or heard about it from someone else, and wrote it.
he was saved by an offscreen order somehow saving him
not because phoenix revived him
it makes no fricking sense and robs any weight from the story
1- we aren't 100% sure that he is dead
2-Pseudonim exist, could be clive if he survived or even Joshua's GF. Using a Pseudonim to honor someone with a book is not really crazy and can happen in our world too.
if its clive usual a pseudonym then that means he was bringing back to live by deus ex machina in the 11th hour by metia who up to that point had not granted anybody's prayer
how would joshua gf know about the parts she wasn't there for?
Now tell me where did the story show Clive dying.
>he was bringing back to live by deus ex machina in the 11th hour by metia who up to
maybe, or maybe not , we don't know how bad the state of clive was at the end of the game, him surviving could be a deus ex machina or it could just be normal because his wounds weren't that severe.
>how would joshua gf know about the parts she wasn't there for?
Because for the 50th time, the book is not a 1to1 retelling of the event, its a fairytale book for children.
why would jill cry then
and proof?
>why would jill cry then
When Metia vanish Jill was thinking that clive is dead.
The next scene reveal that Metia disappearing was Jill getting her wish.
so deus ex machina
its still a death sentence and clive died
clive did die
>so deus ex machina
Literally set up from the prologue.
You don’t get it the book is 100% accurate
When you take a piss and Clive is standing there doing nothing? That’s in the book. When you’re hunting marks?l in between story moments? In the book. When you pause the cutscene to read the lord? That’s actually in the book as annotations.
But why make it this ambiguous?
What was the point of this nonsensical gimmick?
Because it really doesn’t matter it’s a post credits scene, same with FF7. And like ff7 you’d have to be mentally moronic to not think the ending is at the minimum satisfactory
Just to test if the player pays attention to the story, are not moronic (Barry is) and think for themselves. This is basic storytelling 101.
Ah it was a test.
Look like I passed (won't be playing this game).
First time playing FF?
joshua is literally and figuratively a phoenix, a phoenix in legend is an entity who resurrects.
He does die canonically, but someone else with his benevolent courageoys personality and character takes up his mantle instead of his b***h evil mom
kino ending
and he's dead you frick
by your logic the first person to ever be phoenixs dominant should still be alive
The frick is a song person
He got a mistype of "Sound" stop being a pretentious condescending nitpicky moron and engage with his argument.
What argument it's barely legible autistic seething
Please stop pretending you actually played any FF games, lil bro
Nor does XVI. You're the one who're trying to gaslit everyone into thinking it was all made up.
yeah i can already see the reactions:
>Wait what it was all bullshit? all made up? whaaaaat!?
I doubt he’ll finish the game. Also watch all streamers put camera top left to hide using journalist accessories.
Any particular reason people listen or even care what this creature has to say?
I dont its just an example
>f16 does
no it doesn't, no matter how many time you repeat it.
>all these fricking typos everywhere
You just know this homosexual has been awake for like 20+ hours
>No one b***hes about FF Tactics being a historical record that ends up being burned at the end of the game.
You are admitting it was a historical record tho it happened. But I definitely b***h about this type of stories when its never clear if it was history or fiction. Super Mario 2 all a dream ending was trash but its easier to forgive there because the story never took itself seriously.
This is the first game I have ever seen where it forced the doomers to lower their IQ in order for their shitposts to work
XVI cultist still pretending it isn't a shit Ending
If clive is alive and joshua is dead then its deus ex machina for how clive suddenly is alive because of metia aka literally gods intervention literally deus ex machina at the 11th hour
if clive is dead and joshua is dead then it makes more sense that they never existed and the book is just written by someone naked joshua rosfield
if clive is dead abdominal joshua is alive then it makes no sense how joshua would know about the parts he wasn't there for
And either way its terrible because its never explained how the blight was counteracted beyond the crystal getting destroyed, that doesn't suddenly make the soil able to grow plants or the decayed mordor ass looking places into inhabitable places with sustainable agriculture
This is Barry's last charge, the cry of the Barryrihm.
xvi cultists malding
Hurray, for death and YoshiP's ending!
>abdominal Joshua
It’s not a worldwide release at all. New Zealand unlocks in 2 hr 45min. It’s midnight per region instead of all at same time.
Can the real Barry please stand up?
Why spoil a game like this?
The first fricking line you write.
I don't care about FF but this is very gay.
He didn't spoil anything. He's wrong.
Maybe he is, maybe he isn't.
He still believes it's the ending and there is probably some truth in it.
Very c**tish. Spoilers fricking exist for this stuff.
No. He's 100% wrong. There is no truth in it at all.
How does the ending compare to 6, 7, 9, and 10?
It's a good sacrifice ending, kinda like FFX, except less stupid and tearjerking.
Purposely leaves a lot to speculation as to the fate of the characters but it does tie up the plot.
Better than x ending and miles better than xv
At least you don't have to buy the book irl for the ending
Worse than any ff ending
XV has the best ending by far
>book
non canon alt timeline
ff16s ending is like a made up book within a game so worse than anything
Why discredit yourself as a troll before trying to make a point?
But Barry, how do we know the story in XV is real if no one wrote a book about it, and Noctis just died at the end. How do we know Noctis kissed Luna in the afterlife. Frick, does this mean FFXV's ending is TERRIBLE?
So. what. is. the. better. game.
Final Fantasy 16 or Final Fantasy 15
VOTE NOW!!
XVI.
15 is better in every aspect
>both games
UHHH BARRYBROS?????
100+ million dollar game failed so hard the studio was snuffed out
studio maybe be dead but $100mil they made out like bandits
It didn't break even. The losses from the game where so catastrophic that they had to restructure and dissolve Luminous Productions.
They said in a earnings call that the sales where lackluster and disappointing.
Nope they're just cbu2 now
Because we see noctis kiss luna you moron
But in the world of XV, why aren't there any other soul that can appear in the world? That doesn't make any sense. Why does only Noctis and Luna gets to reappear. Sounds like deus ex machina type of shit. What a shit ending.
FRICKING DROPPED
>Barry is out of complaints and only has the ending left now to attack
Sad!
dont you have to damage control barny eating his cum out of a troony alien?
Oh mother, your pussy so gud!
Can someone explain to me why one schizo is so hellbent on shitting on FF16 just because of FF15?
You answered it yourself.
He's a schizo.
Frankly, nobody really knows why someone would die on xv hill
Do note that guy has a ton of impersonators tho
16 is a failure and is killing SE after 15 saved it
I hope we will get some barrykino today
Like when he posted his favorite oedipal mommysex images
No wonder he hates ffxvi when the villain is also a deranged schizo that wants to frick his mom
He really is trying so hard to gaslight people with his dumb "it's all a dream" take isn't it.
bystander here, the most important thing is: did this Joshua really die? If yes then ending is shit. If not, then he just wrote the events in a form of a story book.
He died. But you're also not a bystander, just a shitposter or a moron because we already explained he also isn't the one who wrote the book in this very thread.
This part is actually “ambiguous”. The thing is though ffxvi is not subtle at, the opposite in fact. The scene with Jill smiling at the end is the Clive is alive reveal and the author’s name reveal is the Joshua is alive reveal
>Joshua is dead
>Clive lives, but is probably missing an arm
>Jill has child, they name him Joshua
>Joshua writes book based on stories his mom & dad told him
>Joshua's name is passed down in homage to Phoenix.
>the story is little more than fanfic
is this excuse supposed to defend the ending?
Yes.
Well if Clive lived or had a child then it's not an issue at all.
Why is Barry only focused on the ending.....the beginning wasn't nearly as good as 15s was
The author of the book is torgal, which is why he wrote their names out of the story (they are referred to as the eikons of fire)
>Barry refreshing the metacritic page
metacritic doesn't matter
ff16 could get 100 and it'd still be garbage as the leaks haven't confirmed
>The reviews don't matter
Kek
They dont and game journo opinions will never matter.
>muh sequel
lol and who says it would be just be a prequel about leviathan and how they died or some shit
“Moving forward, when people get the game and they play it, and they love it enough that they want to see more... We've left the door open a little - just enough so that we can continue and can show more.”
cope he talk about a sequel here
that average is for userscore aka FAN RECEPTION not jouno reviews you illiterate frick
>comparing 7 review averages vs 4700 review averages
Will you still say that if it gets 85 or lower, I wonder
So what was the fate of the main cast?
they are Fictional didnt exist
>FF stories are now meta garbage
First SE ruined DQ11 with this shit, then FF7remake, and now FF16.
Why cant we just get a good fantasy story?
I hope to meet other like-minded gay anons in Discord discussions of this game. You can find me in XIV, I'll put the name Margrace-Kun somewhere you can see it.
All this game playing has left me tired and in need of some good old fashioned gay role playing.
>so buckbroken that he is larping as the leaker.
So it's just like XIV which also was a fairy tale and you can see real story is happening 500 years in the future in a doomed world where ascians won and warrior of light is only known as some legend told by bunch of lunatics known as garlond ironworks that think they can invent time travel and reverse what happened in eorzea before it was gassed (Tales From the Shadows story 3 - A World Forsaken)
This shit is fiction though, how did edmont know what happened when he wasn’t there
>So it's just like XIV which also was a fairy tale and you can see real story is happening 500 years in the future
A future timeline that happens simultaneously to the present doesn't make the real main story a fairy tale, you assraping fairy homosexual
And how do you know 16 end is not in the future? Or 14 isn't a fairy tale?
>And how do you know 16 end is not in the future?
Its in the present, the kid as he reads the book all that shit is happening simultaneously
i don't know how people expected good writing when the only good written part in the entire of FFXIV is just a villain that wanted to be friends with you in other circustances.
How does the final arc of the story goes? I missed the actual leak thread. Did we know anything more about the fallen? Does Metia becomes the "Dalamud"? How did Clive kill Ultima?
Maehiro is hot garbage, next time bring Ishikawa please
Man can't even make a decent character
>next time bring Ishikawa please
What's she working on if not XVI
She ain't writing 7.0...
>everyone suddenly in New Zealand to play in 1 hour.
What the frick?
Anyone leaking playthroughs already?
cheap writing tricks are as old as writing itself, have you ever read the bible?
This homosexual reads the last line of a novel and thinks he's a literary critic.