It wasn't a bad scene. Frick you
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It’s a fine cautionary tale against a character intentionally acting like an annoying little shit. Yes, it sells us when the other characters cringe. But then it also has the effect of making the audience cringe, and maaaybe that’s not the kind of reaction that they want their heroes to be eliciting, just like we don’t need to see the strained look in their face when they’re taking a fat shit
>just like we don’t need to see the strained look in their face when they’re taking a fat shit
Worked for Don Quixote
Cringe humor also worked for The Office because it is a means of adding realistic emotional depth to an otherwise pedestrian and ordinary setting, and fit nicely with Don Quixote’s theme of a fantasy world inside a man’s head coming to terms with ugly, cynical boring reality. But the overall consensus seems to be that it’s a bad fit on a character that is supposed to be a sports Chad turned heroic savior of the world who gets the tradgirl virgin waifu
They’re basically smacking you in the manboobs for liking such a girlie fruity pretty pretty princess dress-up game like FFX-2. My advice to you is never let friends or family catch you loving the shit out of it and when the cringe singing scenes come around, mute and blast System of a Down or something so they never suspect a thing
>it’s a bad fit on a character that is supposed to be a sports Chad
if there wasn't a bogeyman constantly hovering over us telling us to have sex and sexualizing children at as young an age as is physically possible do you really think anybody would still act the same way they do in real life?
Yes because there are these things called hormones and it is natural and inevitable for people to be acting upon them
a) no behavior is "inevitable", your parents fricked you up
b) if you're arguing in favor of the thought that sapience is an illusion then why the frick would anyone talk to someone as unattractive as you are or value your opinion?
>sex isn’t inevitable and I am living proof of that
Maybe try going to the gym instead of replaying FFX and getting triggered when you realize that Tidus probably would have made fun of you in high school for being a blitzball pleb and the tradgirl wouldn’t have given you the time of day because she likes it when he dabs on you. It’s no different from Hunter gatherer girls going for the best hunters and leaving the berry pickers lonely and frustrated. Deal with it
Tidus wouldn't make fun of people because he's a nice and well adjusted young man who people can both rely on and look up to. I have absolutely no problem meeting women, impressing them, or making them feel special. I choose not to frick them because I neither want used goods nor do I want to disgrace them after ruining them in the past with my lust. The massive copium coming off everything you post is quite frankly pathetic. You've been trained to think by a cult who literally didn't know about female orgasms until 50 years ago and still has it's founding members frick the youngest ones in initiation. You're a fricking tool. You're a thing that's literally owned, sculpted, and destroyed at the whims of a psychopath whose systematic abuse you worship as though it were justice. Your ancestors weep with shame at the humiliation you inflict upon yourself with every breath you continue to draw. You're not cool, you're not a "real man", you're not on the winning team. You're a manchild who got butt-molested by a weird old man with a limp left handed hand shake.
You typed all that shit out to show how mad you are and I didn’t even read it lol maybe try touching grass, nerd
I'll interpret this as you surrendering without further argument
>it’s a bad fit on a character that is supposed to be a sports Chad turned heroic savior of the world who gets the tradgirl virgin waifu
holy shit you didn't play the game did you? Tidus is a fricking dork and it's a major point of contention with his dad
And what do kids do when their dad punches down at them? They mimic that behavior at others especially when they have athletic talent and know they can get away with it. We only got to know Tidus after he faced death multiple times and was stranded far from his comfort zone in a world where everybody was a stranger, but let’s not forget he spent most of it not giving two craps about their traditions or sacred rituals or their stifling conformity culture which says that summoners have to die and dabbed on anyone trying to stop him. He broke all the rules and made Yuna’s panties moist in the process. Total Chad behavior
Congratulations you “won” the internet fight I bet your mom will be so proud of you next time she brings the Dino nuggies
>Congratulations you “won” the internet fight I bet your mom will be so proud of you next time she brings the Dino nuggies
jokes on you I hate my mom and hope she gets her limbs amputated
>And what do kids do when their dad punches down at them? They mimic that behavior at others especially when they have athletic talent and know they can get away with it.
anon this is clearly homosexual behavior
Tidus likes girls. Like actually likes them, he's not forcing himself to have what you call "sex" with them because he wants gay approval from his dad. His dad is an actual person to him believe it or not.
Even putting that aside, Jecht was a real man and a faithful lover. The only thing getting in the way of him spending time with his family was his duty as a hero and a provider.
No clearly homosexual behavior would be Tidus getting spitroasted by Ronsos, or maybe grabbing fistfuls of Auron’s chest hair as he ruts his member between Tidus’s thighs
> Tidus likes girls.
He even has the option to put the moves on Rikku and Lulu even though he is “officially” courting Yuna. Clearly the sign of somebody with mommy issues if he is that desperate for female companionship which brings me to my next point.
> His dad is an actual person to him believe it or not.
Tidus flat out admits that if he met his dad he’d sock him the moment he saw him, and spends basically the entire game seething about his dad being such a huge dick that Tidus’s mom neglected him because she was too busy gargling Jecht’s ballsack and only stopped when Jecht was all like “you’d better check on him before he starts crying again”. Jecht was a turbochad and that’s what made him so based and all Tidus was trying to do was live up to that
>Tidus getting spitroasted by Ronsos, or maybe grabbing fistfuls of Auron’s chest hair as he ruts his member between Tidus’s thighs
I suppose you would know a lot about homosexual behavior.
No I don’t want to make out with you. I want to spend more time talking about how Tidus was following in his father’s footsteps to becoming a true Chad and part of that is learning your place in the hierarchy of other men so you know who you have to fistfight in order to climb up the ranks and that’s why Jecht spent Tidus’s entire childhood dabbing on him so Tidus would toughen up into a proper alpha male with an attitude problem and that’s why Tidus wouldn’t even let an entire religion push him around and get in the way of scoring some trad pussy
anon it seems like you're extremely fixated on impressing men such that you place a high value on having sex with women, which you regard as a form of abuse
have you considered maybe what you want is to just find an older man to pound your ass directly and tell you that you're important and heckin cute and valid
>he still can’t stop thinking about gay sex
Brah I’m talking about Tidus and Jecht being Chad pussyslayers I’m sorry that triggers your delicate sensibilities you might want to go crying to your boyfriend if you’re that broken up about it
Interesting insight. What tale does this scene tell?
this still isn't as cringe as nu-star wars or even old star wars
>What tale does this scene tell?
That idolshittery is the highest kind of fanservice for nips. As absurd and cringe as it appears to western eyes.
Did FFX-2 predict the idol boom?
The idol boom happened in the 80s, anon.
Only a total tool ever gets uncomfortable with that scene because they are so insecure about embarrassing themselves irl that they cannot relate to Tidus, who is fine risking embarrassment.
Or they just can’t relate to a hero acting like an annoying little shit so it subverts the character’s image as a hero/leader type in their minds. If you can relate, you might want to pause and reflect.
>tidus
>leader
He's literally just along for the ride.
He’s the protagonist and spends the whole game saying “this is my story” so yes he steps into that role, often dragging more level headed characters along for the ride
He is the protagonist, but he sure as shit isn't the leader.
Perception is reality and everybody is the hero of their own story
That’s not what your mom told me as I was sending her to the Farplane
jokes on you I hate my mom and hope she gets her limbs amputated
Did she forget the Dino nuggies again?
You're an ungrateful Black person. I'll frick you up b***h.
>Tidus
>leader
Dude is dragged around and taking orders from others the entire time. The only time he ever shows initiative is when he gets pissed off that nobody told him the truth about what happens at the end of a pilgrimage and shit talks everyone present.
Tidus is the entire reason that they succeed in killing Sin permanently instead of simply going through the motions and sacrificing Yuna so that the cycle continues
That doesn't negate what the other anon said. One of the key points of X was Tidus growing from a spoiled crybaby into someone that could be relied upon to lead others.
When does he cry or act spoiled? He resents his Dad for showing tough love and walking out on them but keeps it together better than most would. From almost the moment he meets the party he is calling his own shots (entering temples, not caring about their religion, etc) and even though they were already planning the pilgrimage before he got there, it ended up being a completely unique pilgrimage with twists and turns that stem almost entirely from Tidus’s influence. It’s hard to imagine Yuna turning down the offer of marriage to Seymour without Tidus in the picture influencing her decisions
If anything he mostly just grows from undirected non-specific outrage to having a laser focused indignation towards actual injustices. As a person who just thinks about and cares about other people he essentially doesn't change and is already mature.
>scene was meant to be embarrassing
>"omg why didn't they consider the feelings of players who might be embarrassed?"
>players complain that a scene is embarrassing
>no you don’t get it, it was supposed to be embarrassing!
Doesn’t make it any better. It’s still a great game and a great character, that particular scene was just a misfire
I'm pretty sure your conception was a misfire that should have been aborted
Children and idiots don't understand the point of the scene, and that's 99% of the ff playerbase right there.
>IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BAD! YOU JUST DON"T GET IT!
It was a shit scene because it was a shit scene. People understood it just fine it doesn't change the fact that it was crap. Trying to insist that you're the only idiot who somehow GETS it doesn't change that.
It's a good scene. Deal with it you autistic npc
It's conceptually ok, but the execution is dogshit.
That's why the scene is shit.
It was not supposed to be awkward and cringe, it was supposed to be charming.
But because of the VO, camera cuts, how other characters react (or rather, don't react), how stiff it is and how dragged out the scene is it just falls apart.
>le execution argument
Nope. It was a good scene
>le no argument
>le irrational close-minded clown
Concession accepted, even if you're in denial.
No, you're just a filtered dumbass.
Everyone who thinks this scene was bad only does because they've seen others say it was. Literal herd mentality. Why don't you try thinking for yourself for a change, NPC?
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE A CHARACTER OPEN UP ABOUT THE FACADE SHE HAS TO WEAR IN PUBLIC AND BOND WITH THE main character AS THEIR MOCKING FORCED LAUGHTER TURNS TO REAL LAUGHTER
>THAT'S A BAD SCENE REEEEEEEEEEEEE
So which is it? Are you a child or an idiot?
It was a "look how in love they are, they're being cringe together, isn't it cute?". It wasn't supposed to be particularly funny, it was a romantic moment.
Yes it was. It was an absolutely moronic way to do what it was doing. There's a reason you have never, and will never, see another scene like it in a story again. It's terrible and guess what, peopel didn't miss the point. A bad, cringe scene is still bad and cringe even if it's being done intentionally.
Naw. You are just autistic
Nah, you are, b***h.
mad
lol wat? The only people who defend that shit are autistic gays. Every normal person in the world who has ever played that game thinks that scene is trash. It's the autismo's and their "y-you just didn't like get it" that make these threads.
Naw it's a good scene and you are dumb and likely autistic
>didn't play kingdom hearts because he's passively buttblasted even when nobody else is around after getting his ass blasted so hard in high school that it never recovered
autists and spergs are unable to have empathy with other humans, so this scene is completely lost on them. they literally don't understand what is happening.
I agree. The exaggeration is the point.
It was and always will be a bad scene, whether people get it or not.
Personally I thought it was marginally better before I realised what they were going for.
The Tidus laugh scene would've been fine if the rest of the party had some sort of reaction. Have them look embarassed or chuckle a bit, instead they just stare soullessly in horror.
Nah, their reaction is perfect because it mirrors the uninitiated audience
bad game
when I was a kid my Dad walked into my room while this scene was happening, looked at the screen and said
>Why is that homosexual wearing an earring?
and walked out
The whole game was pretty awful. I think Squeenix took a Scrabble bag full of feces and letters and spelled out the plotline.
The idiotic character designs just push it over into abject stupidity.
It wasn’t. His face in the remaster is a tragedy.
You're right OP. Any well adjusted emotionally complete human being can relate to this scene in a mature way because they don't feel compulsive insecurity for Tidus who is ultimately a separate person who is just developing psychologically on his own pace. They don't have an ingrained knee jerk gut reaction that makes them feel second hand embarrassment because that's an artifact of external morality. Something which is designed for children and to be blunt, the stupid, to control them so that they don't act out in society and do harm to the tribe. The people who still don't get it 20 years later (20 YEARS) are unironically in a state of arrested development and feel shame and fear about an invisible bully or authority figure who lives rent free in their head.
>the scene everyone made fun of since the release of the game is definitely not cringe.
ok nerd
>game journos are "everyone"
shut the frick up the little bottom b***h frickboy pedarast worshipper
>first only who "didn't get it" hated it
>then only autisics hated it
>now only game journos hated it
How many goalposts you plan to move there, son?
>implying any of those are exclusive to eachother
Low IQ or just ESL?
How about actually defending the scene on it's own merits instead of making accusatory statements where you try to claim the detractors don't understand it.
>It's DQ-schizo again
I don't think you should be throwing either of those rocks, sonny.
>muh it's good because it's realistic!
Americans are a fricking bane on civilization.
America is civilization. Cope, seethe, dilate shitskin.
>America is civilization
Hasn't been for a long time.
Don't look down on yourself too much, mutt. We just kill a little bit of Black folk, homosexuals, and Black personhomosexuals then we will be even greater again. You'll see.
>Don't look down on yourself too much, mutt
I don't get what you mean.
>we will be even greater again. You'll see.
Nice, looking forward to it.
the only people who shit on this scene are the ones who never played the game therefore missing the context
>inb4 le cringe
not an argument and you should have a nice day ASAP
The context actually makes it even worse. The scene would be more tolerable if it was just bad voice acting.
Its the scene used by people who never played the game and don't understand the relationship between the characters. If someone brings up this scene you already know they are idiots.
Gamers are still far behind when it comes to understanding intentionally framed discomfort. I won't even defend the device or claim any game used it well, but its obvious many don't even understand it.
YIIK is the most blatant game-analogous example I can think of for this (with Alex being constantly manipulated and delusionally selfish). There's so much intentionally and obviously brought forth through dialogue, inconsistencies in facts, and whatnot. They just can't tune into it even when its the main crux of the game (to the point where world building and basic character development are out the window).
Awkward in context, funny out of context.
>it has been 21 years since a good mainline non-mmo, non-remake/remaster FF game was released
Should I just say frick it and try XIV? I hate mmos and have no idea how to play them but XVI looks like ass too and I have no more hope.
Only if you like playing with normies and trannies in a corridor, dress-me-up, online simulator.
>I hate mmos
Don't bother playing it then.