>It's another "The vampire lord rules with an iron fist but he's the only one in this region that stands between the outside horrors...

>It's another "The vampire lord rules with an iron fist but he's the only one in this region that stands between the outside horrors and his human subjects" situation

What's the most ethical course of action in this situation?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Kill him and become a more benevolent vampire lord of the region obviously

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    kill the vampire and Genocide both of them(horrors and his human subjects)

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    last vampire we encountered got her blood tax via practicing prima nocta in her county

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >got her blood tax via practicing prima nocta in her county
      >prima nocta
      >her
      One hundred men... maybe more

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Being undead she wasn't at risk of illegitimate pregnancy, so it was a "relatively" less risky and softer way of getting the blood she needed and having some fun in the process. Also kept her in touch with her subjects and able to hear their opinions and strifes, and maintain some love with lavish weddings and gifts for her guests.

        Better than kidnappings or vanishing people off the streets, I suppose.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >had sex with every married man in the county
          That's kinda hot, but wouldn't their be rumors and slander against her for being a loose woman?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >wouldn't their be rumors and slander against her for being a loose woman?

            Rumours and slander spread by seething dicklets.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            She's already a vampiress. Unless it came out that she was a demon worshiper that ate children, her public reputation couldn't get any worse.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              But do her people know she's a vampiress?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >collects blood tax
                >bUt Do HeR pEoPlE kNoW sHe'S a VaMpIReSs?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            She was pretty beloved so her own people, as far as accepting that not everyone is perfect, tacitly tolerated that she was promiscuous when that was her only glaring flaw. Compared with rulers of neighboring lands who may be cruel, incompetent, insane, exploitative, etc. the countess being a bawd but otherwise a capable and generous ruler, was seen as a blessed compromise.

            Also considering that she wasn't bearing illegitimate children or letting lovers control her or usurp power, her bawdtiness was seen as just a personal character flaw rather than a risk to the state or security. If the countess kept things going well and the people's lives good, then they could turn a blind eye to her open bed. Considering she kept things "in house" with her own subjects rather than foreign suitors or noble schemers.

            She's already a vampiress. Unless it came out that she was a demon worshiper that ate children, her public reputation couldn't get any worse.

            It wasn't known that she was a vampire. Taking blood (usually) only during her prima nocta, it was easy enough to hide, with a sprinkle of beguilement.

            When the newlywed husband returns to his bride after a night with the countess, easy enough to write off his exhausted anemia as her wild sexual appetite, considering her reputation after all. It's no big deal, he'll be recovered in a day or so...

            ...pay no attention to the bite mark on his neck.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Ignoring the lewd aspect this is actually some really nice wordlbuilding and I like it.
              Not gonna copy it but definitely putting it in my back pocket.
              So thanks anon have some vaguely relevant image from my traditional games folder.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks to the DM she's the one that came up with it.

                But yeah it was a fun background detail, for the duration of the campaign that took place in her county.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >she
                >background detail
                Hmmm... It's enough to make a man think.

                Is she single?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                At that time she was, she's married now.

                I kind of get the feeling that an entire cuckqueen kingdom is not only so deep into magical realm that there's few parties that wouldn't sniff it out, but would realistically have at least some kind of major friction amongst the population.

                The bigger issue that led us to sussing things out was why she never aged, before that we didn't know she was a vampire and just assumed she was a bawd... with some suspiciously effective contraceptive resource, whatever that may have been.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >...pay no attention to the bite mark on his neck.
              >mark
              >singular
              Poor lad must have put his foot in his mouth something fierce.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            If she is their lord technically all the dicks belong to her anyway.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        last vampire we encountered got her blood tax via practicing prima nocta in her county

        >Vampire Queen rules the land with an iron fist
        >PCs are asked by the villagers to free their town from her evil.
        >Learns that a famed Vampire Hunting Paladin went to her castle to slay her and never return
        >PCs investigate the Paladin's writing on Vampires and their weaknesses
        >Finally breach the castle
        >"Welcome, unexpected guests, to Castle Bloodmoon~"
        >Beside her is a kneeling man in what looks like a Butler's Suit, a broadsword upon his back.
        >Some collar made of black metal locked to his throat
        >Party recognizes it's the Vampire Hunter whose guide they've been following.
        >"Go, my pet!" The Vamp Queen commands and he attacks.
        >Party goes on the defensive
        >Queue "I KNOW YOU'RE IN THERE, SOMEWHERE!" Fight
        >Guy pauses. "What?"
        >"She's controlling your mind, Ser Allister!"
        >Awkward silence
        >The Queen and the Pally exchange a look
        >It turns out he *was* captured, but the Queen quickly took a liking to him and vice versa
        >Literally no mind control at all, just seduced by the Vampussy
        >"But she's making you wear a collar! She calls you her pet!"
        >The room gets even more awkward
        >Pally scratches the back of his neck
        >The Vampire Queen actually seems to be blushing
        >Party's Bard catches on quickly
        >"By the gods, you both are perverse..."

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Trips of /d/

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            My hornyposting gives me power. The good boi pally *will* always be seduced by the Vampussy

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >The good boi pally *will* always be seduced by the Vampussy
              This. Gender bending optional.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >This. Gender bending optional.

                *Ahem*
                >Good girl Paladin is a devoted servant of the Goddess of Love, Charity, and War
                >Learns a village in The North is being tyrannized by a cruel Vampire nobleman.
                >Travels far and wide, eventually reaching the Vampire's castle.
                >Fights her way to the entrance, at last she's face to face with the Vampire Lord.
                >"Die monster, you don't belong in this world!"
                >Fights the Vampire Lord
                >Is beaten
                >Last thing she sees before the darkness cloaks her vision is his fangs going for her neck.
                >Days pass
                >She wakes up in an unfamiliar bedroom
                >Fire crackling
                >All of her wounds have been bandaged
                >Vampire lord comes in with hot tea and food
                >"Thank goodness you're finally awake!"
                >Dotes on her 24/7
                >Turns out she got *really* too into the vampire feeding off her
                >He was only going to take enough to heal his own wounds, but she locked her legs around him and wouldn't let go until she was conked out.
                >"Don't worry, I'll call a stagecoach for you when you're feeling well enough to travel, just rest."
                >Turns out the Vampire Lord was just defending his home
                >This was all some elaborate ploy by a *very* kinky Paladin
                >Out and out refuses to leave his castle
                >Buys a fricking black choker to wear around her throat. Tells everyone the Vampire Lord told her to wear it.
                >"Master has made me his plaything."
                >The entire village spreads rumors far and wide that the Vampire corrupted and enslaved a chaste Paladin
                >He has to spend another year fending off hordes of thirsty holy women who want to live out their Vampire fantasy.
                >ThisShitAgain.jpg

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I wonder how many vampires off themselves to avoid becoming trapped in some crazy chicks S&M fantasy.

                Doubly so if it's the type of vampirism that kills your sex drive.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If it's the kind of vampirism where being bitten by one is as good/better than sex, there may be a couple awkward moments where male adventurers feel obligated to say something like "I know how I look right now, but you gotta understand I'm not gay."

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          My hornyposting gives me power. The good boi pally *will* always be seduced by the Vampussy

          God, I wish I had an undead vampiress gf who would literally suck me dry

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        >Vampire Queen rules the land with an iron fist
        >PCs are asked by the villagers to free their town from her evil.
        >Learns that a famed Vampire Hunting Paladin went to her castle to slay her and never return
        >PCs investigate the Paladin's writing on Vampires and their weaknesses
        >Finally breach the castle
        >"Welcome, unexpected guests, to Castle Bloodmoon~"
        >Beside her is a kneeling man in what looks like a Butler's Suit, a broadsword upon his back.
        >Some collar made of black metal locked to his throat
        >Party recognizes it's the Vampire Hunter whose guide they've been following.
        >"Go, my pet!" The Vamp Queen commands and he attacks.
        >Party goes on the defensive
        >Queue "I KNOW YOU'RE IN THERE, SOMEWHERE!" Fight
        >Guy pauses. "What?"
        >"She's controlling your mind, Ser Allister!"
        >Awkward silence
        >The Queen and the Pally exchange a look
        >It turns out he *was* captured, but the Queen quickly took a liking to him and vice versa
        >Literally no mind control at all, just seduced by the Vampussy
        >"But she's making you wear a collar! She calls you her pet!"
        >The room gets even more awkward
        >Pally scratches the back of his neck
        >The Vampire Queen actually seems to be blushing
        >Party's Bard catches on quickly
        >"By the gods, you both are perverse..."

        >Not having her go full Elizabeth Bathory
        >Start by drinking from maids
        >Frick out of maids draft some peasant girls
        >Running out of peasants open a finishing school for young noblewomen

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Not having her go full Elizabeth Bathory
      >Start by drinking from maids
      >Frick out of maids draft some peasant girls
      >Running out of peasants open a finishing school for young noblewomen

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >got her blood tax via practicing prima nocta in her county
      >prima nocta
      >her
      One hundred men... maybe more

      She was pretty beloved so her own people, as far as accepting that not everyone is perfect, tacitly tolerated that she was promiscuous when that was her only glaring flaw. Compared with rulers of neighboring lands who may be cruel, incompetent, insane, exploitative, etc. the countess being a bawd but otherwise a capable and generous ruler, was seen as a blessed compromise.

      Also considering that she wasn't bearing illegitimate children or letting lovers control her or usurp power, her bawdtiness was seen as just a personal character flaw rather than a risk to the state or security. If the countess kept things going well and the people's lives good, then they could turn a blind eye to her open bed. Considering she kept things "in house" with her own subjects rather than foreign suitors or noble schemers.

      [...]
      It wasn't known that she was a vampire. Taking blood (usually) only during her prima nocta, it was easy enough to hide, with a sprinkle of beguilement.

      When the newlywed husband returns to his bride after a night with the countess, easy enough to write off his exhausted anemia as her wild sexual appetite, considering her reputation after all. It's no big deal, he'll be recovered in a day or so...

      ...pay no attention to the bite mark on his neck.

      God this is hot. I dont even care that if you swapped the genders it would be disgusting and terrible but that men and women not being the same in action. I for one champion vampire prima noctre if its a hot vampiress claiming newly wed farm boys and bakers virginites will giving them the succ

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >female exceptionalism

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >prima nocta
      Not even a real phenomenon. How fricking gay.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This is the ethical way to blood tax your subjects:
    Take all the Teen to Adult subjects. Draw lots. Shortest straw takes a trip to the castle, eats stupidly well for a week or so, gets succed, returns, is exempt from the next few go rounds, along with the too young (no babies god damn it), old or sick.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >ethical
      Convenient and soft-hearted. Dracula's assuming a duty of care with responsibilities like staying sharp to protect the territory, and the people should probably be sharp, too, if they're living in a region otherwise hostile enough that a vampire is the better monster for not eating them all whole. The ethical way is hunting people for sport when they're caught out after dark.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I approach the vampire lord and offer to lend him my aid against the outside horrors, asking not for coin in return but that he enact a series of modest reforms. I offer him the heads of several particularly dangerous horrors to show him my sincerity and the potential value I can bring, as well as the threat I can pose if my generosity is rebuffed.
    What did you think that just because I'm a paladin I would smite first and ask questions later?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why the frick would you waste spells buffing heads you're going to give? Why the frick would you prepare a second set to rebuff when the first ones wear off? Lawful Stupid dumbass paladin.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Dude learn to read
        >as well as the threat I can pose if my generosity is rebuffed
        Means "as a proof that I can skewer you the same way, if you disagree with my offer"

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Train said human subjects to be able to protect themselves, then once they no longer need the vampire, drag him out of his hiding place at dawn and leave him to the sun.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Can they drink the vaccinated's blood?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, but they need to chew on account of the blood clots.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Kill the OP and sell his body for medical experimentation on hydrocephalus

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why do furgays and other degenerates always think this in anyway changes things? The obvious and correct path is to kill the monster and seek a better way for humanity. Always, no exceptions. Better dead than the slave of a monster.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What if, like the case of Dracula, the outside horror is other humans?

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    In this situation, the PCs are the outside horrors.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Genocide.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is it an iron but fair fist or does he just run around doing whatever he wants all the time?

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Depends. We talking about a male or female vampire?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yes

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Torture the vampire lord until he begs for the sweet release of death, then nail him to a wooden board and place him outside where he will bleed painfully until sunrise.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's stupid and wont work. Besides probably being able to break the boards he probably wont feel much pain by bleeding. Bleeding out will just make him more hungry.

      You have to run an oak wooden stake through the heart into the ground and do so in a place where he will be in direct contact with sunlight. You are clearly a ghoul trying to misinform vampire hunters into making fatal mistakes!

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I kind of get the feeling that an entire cuckqueen kingdom is not only so deep into magical realm that there's few parties that wouldn't sniff it out, but would realistically have at least some kind of major friction amongst the population.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      patriarchal society + older medieval sensibilities for women to just smile and nod and bear the situation + being given a dream wedding befitting nobility when you're just a peasant

      there's a lot to distract or appease the women from their new husbands being fricked and sucked dry for just one night

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Kill

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why are we playing capitalism setting again?

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I know that vampires have always been sexy, but I fricking hate that right now they're nothing but fetish shit for coomers.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Shitty weebs and modern vampire stuff in general had forgotten their roots, that they are still meant to be monsters.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, sexy monsters of beguile. Plus, there are still ugly vampire types out there. The OP is implying the vamp is hot given the attractive anime guy to go along with the post.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >right now
      Black person, they are like this since Stoker's little novel. You know, the whole time since there is even such thing as what you consider "traditional vampire"

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Hell, the yuripire manages to be even older what with Carmilla

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Hell, the yuripire manages to be even older what with Carmilla

        Are you functionally fricking illiterate?
        >I know that vampires have always been sexy, but
        do you understand this statement?
        >I fricking hate that right now they're nothing but fetish shit for coomers.
        Do you understand this one? Are you braindead?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Vampires are literally fetish bait since "Dracula" was published
          >HURRR I HATE HOW IT WAS RUINED RECENTLY!
          At least thanks for making it clear you have no fricking idea what the book contains, while having the sheer uppity to talk back, you fricking actual illiterate

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >making it clear you have no fricking idea what the book contains
            And have you read either book, you fricking moron? I don't remember any porn for moronic cumbrains, I remember gothic novels and rather boring ones at that. You are fricking moronic. have a nice day, please, you brain rotten fricking mongoloid. God you fricking homosexuals are so fricking stupid.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Kill both the vampire and the outside horrors.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Under what scheme of ethics?

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    *Thats & While

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Technically speaking, there is nothing wrong with him being a vampire if he was feasting only on not innocents, enemy combatants or criminals for example.

    That is of course assuming he is not using innocents in some other way like souls for spell casting or making them do dangerous slave labor.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I mean. It's kind of all sorts of fricked up to go "You broke the law? Well now you're food.".

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The vampire lord is actually a hybrid monster for they are both a vampire and a prominent land owner. They have the dark powers of the house of Drakul and the dark powers of dictating the laws of the land.

        Are all crimes and taxes payable in blood? That's his right. Is there an extra tax on pastry makers because that's the only way he can eat sugar? That's his right. Technically speaking he was entitled to kill and eat his subjects if he remembers to pay the church for a boon. Incidentally he can request the village church not use crosses, silver, garlic, and holy water. The church wont like it but he can request it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >All kinds of fricked up
        >You stole so now we are going to cut off your fricking hands or feet!
        >You broke the law so we are going to imprison you then brand your goddamn face with a hot iron!
        >You broke the law so we are going to break you limbs so as to tie you around a wheel and spin it on a spoke like a carousel of pain until you probably die.

        All things considered it's not that bad.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Which doesn't stop it being all sorts of fricked, and not "nothing wrong", does it?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Yes it does. Its fast, less painful, and does not rely on humiliation to scare others. Normal way you get nothing but rotting bodies and psychological damage of everyone involved. The vampire lord way their blood is being used to feed an important person in their society.

            That is not fricked up at all. Break the law and the law bites you.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              We don't even force blood donations, and those things save lives. The frick is wrong with you? Unironically.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          An outlaw's life is the best life.
          >robbing from the rich to fill your coffers
          >donating to the poor to earn your safety
          >marauding different poor to sate your bloodlust
          >as much violence and hooliganry as you can stomach, and more
          >every day is camping and road-tripping with the lads
          >the misery only makes wild living that much sweeter
          >nothing stopping you from adventuring on the side
          >your very existence infuriates lawmen and nobles to no end
          >get to die young, axe in your hand, and never grow old
          >play your cards right and you'll live on in a dozen folktales
          It doesn't get any better than that. I don't understand why anyone would ever spring for serfdom.

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The most ethical thing is to do nothing at all and leave.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I've actually been working on something along the ideas of a vampire lord in a story I'm working on.

    The Lord and his clan secretly were vampires for generations and actively worked towards keeping their numbers down and manageable. The king wasn't aware of them and thought the lord's family was just eccentric but they were the most prosperous lands in the kingdom so let it slide.

    The clan and lord himself take a long term view of things and actively try to keep their barony and it's people happy and well off. They openly dislike the short term gluttony and power tripping of most vampires. This becomes plot centric in the story as the kingdom is currently besieged by undead, demons, and whatnot and the lord's lands are basically the last holdouts in the Southern 1/3 of the kingdom as rogue vamps basically destroyed everything around them feeding on anything that moved.

    The Lord had to out the clan to the people under his banner as using his supernatural forces openly was the only way to protect the people. The locals were weary of the idea at first but the Lord and his clan have been noted as being kind to generations of people and while vampires may be trying to kill them THESE vamps are the only reason they aren't dead. Now blood is just a tax option while the lord actively looks to end the vampire wave. Of course the fact the trip from his holdings to the northern safer part of the kingdom is basically guaranteed to kill you had helped the people acclimate to the idea.

    Now ideally he can find allies to reconnect his lands to the kingdom, and hope that the king views him and his clan as loyal stewards and let them remain afterwards and practice their ways.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >another
    Can you provide some examples?

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