It's not even the good kind of sci-fi like Star Trek with phasers and shit, how boring.
It's not even the good kind of sci-fi like Star Trek with phasers and shit, how boring.
It's not even the good kind of sci-fi like Star Trek with phasers and shit, how boring.
It's like they said "hey lets try to make our new IP as boring as possible"
They played it safe. All the casual andys with their consoles love it. https://youtu.be/jGL0gk-qjRU
Buy an ad already. Frick.
>no qt alien gfs in the vastness of space
why the FRICK WOULD I WANT TO LIVE IN A HELLSCAPE LIKE THIS
It's insane because TES's race system would have worked well, you can have humans but also different alien races you can pick.
Adding in aliens reduces the number of Black folk you can have in the game. Sometimes you'd go to a planet or a station and there would be an alien there instead of a Black person. Or you'd get a mission from an alien. Where that COULD have been a mission from a Black person.
Also aliens require artistic talent to design and narrative ability to create an interesting backstory and culture.
Oh, don't remind me of what could have been...
3 out of 4 of the final artifacts are in copy paste, generic outposts. Every power temple is the same with one room. the right 40% of the star system map has almost nothing hand crafted.
Bethesda didn't even finish this current human only version of the game, there's no way they could've handled alien races/languages/buildings/culture as well.
>didn't finish
space bro
humans didn't explored it all.
>but muh generic
mines youw ant an unique one?
cmon
ESL, stop embarassing yourself.
Except those systems have plenty of copy paste abandoned outposts, so humans have been that far out.
They came up with an interesting level for Nishina, hell even the trash lord ship was good enough, just fricking SOMETHING that isn't a miner outpost you've seen 3+ times by this point, there's really no excuse for it, especially on the first playthrough before NG+.
>humans
colonized space clearly is colonized.
200 years with free exploration and land rights do this to a planet.
wait for the mods
>Boldly state the game is HARD SCI FI and wont have any silly aliens and shit like that
>You're the fricking STARBORN and use skyrim shouts, and your team members get reincarnated as plants in NG+ runs
Its honestly baffling how many stupid decisions went into making a game this boring
>Bethesda literally makes its name through a series known for choosing from a list of different races for your character
>First new Bethesda IP in twenty years
>Can only be Human
knew it was trash the moment that was announced
IS NOT MAGIC moron
>alien shit
no sci-fi bt fantasy
imagine being this homosexual
I don't know a single person who would unironically say that fricking BSG was better than say TNG. That show literally had one of the worst endings I've ever seen in fiction.
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who you are reddit homosexual?
Good morning sir I agree these bloody basterd benchod Paki b***hes do not know da powar of the sexy sex cloth dame of the Starfields, they do not know et!
my gripe with it is that is not even at the level of vanilla skyrim in quality
>It's not even the good kind of sci-fi like Star Trek
>like Star Trek
Star Trek is supremely gay and sissy
>He sees anything with a optimist, utopian vision of the future as "gay"
>optimist, utopian vision
Lol wtf, absolutely not.
It's more fantasy than Narnia, and it's a gay fantasy. Everyone is a gay space sailor in tight suits in space lmao.
This. Star Trek is quintessential boomer slop not much worse than SnoyWars which is admittedly pure unfiltered troony slop these days
I suppose they could have had transporting down to a planet & locations to excuse the fast travel system laziness & of course the fast travel to planets & star systems by fast travel as an episode of Star Trek isn't showing the ship travelling (apart from the few minutes of on ship time). I think ppl have to realise that travelling in space is pretty boring, nothing happens, there is no scenery. That doesn't excuse the fast travel system on planets tho in Starfield once discovered although in a way I don't mind it as I find back travelling over the same terrain boring & of course you don't have to use the fast travel, you can still go to the locations you discovered by foot if you want (that might be where vehicles & other transport could be used tho).
People seem to enjoy space travel in Star Citizen and Elite: Dangerous.
You have a ship full of crafting stations, companions, and (if the game were made by compontent devs) minigames. You should have plenty to keep you occupied for a 10 minute space journey.
The problem is bethesda cannot into creativity. So everything is the most boring possible implmentation of an idea they saw somewhere else.
I don't think you can even customise the interior of your ships. FFS it's just a static scene they teleport around.
Truely the braindeadest of developers.
Yeh creativity takes thought tho & they seem to be busy adding other things that some ppl may like or not. I mean a good thing would be that you ship could be boarded, that you have gun battles on your own ship especially if the ship is really large & you have to hold them off in the command or engine room to stop them getting access to your ship. You could have stories & tasks on your own ship as the crew get's larger (you could have NPC's that work at various parts of the ship & they then need parts or have a problem fixed). I mean a film or TV series could literally be just life on a ship where a story has to be built around that. Maybe an alien life form get's on board because you brought an egg on board, maybe a bacteria is on board which eats away at the ships components. Seems modders again have to instil some creativity the lazy devs didn't.
So many missed opportunities. Can you even EVA in this game? That's bog standard sci-fi trope 101 shit, and I don't think I've seen it happen in any of the gameplay that's been inflicted upon me so far.
Your companions should be active members of your crew, doing things around the ship, sitting the mess and getting some grub. Instead it's still oblivion style wooden mannequin NPCs.
The whole game is just utter dreck. No imagination or passion anywhere outside some of the art.
Warframe is free and does literally everything more and better, looks better, is more customizable, is almost a decade old, and is still growing.
If you don't like kino it's your problem.
Battlestar Galactica is better than Star Trek.
Imagine having taste this fricking BAD, holy shit.
Starfield's launch was a disaster. It lost millions of dollars and will be lucky to break even before the year is out.
>Steam generally trends as a quarter of game sales vs all other platforms
>steam estimates 1 million sales
>that means 3 million Xbox sales
>2 million gamepass sales
>10 dollars per gamepass sub IF every user bought it specifically for starfield
>49 dollars per steam sale
>70 dollars per Xbox sale
>200 million net in sales
>400 million budget when accounting for marketing
>net 200 million dollar loss
Kek
Your fanfiction won't come true no matter how many times you post it.
Forgot to mention the cost of jeet astroturf campaigns lmao
>400 million budget when accounting for marketing
yeh if you believe accounting from big companies who use that to reduce their tax burden. There is no way Starfield cost $400M espeically with all the poos being employed. Are you suggesting it could have been near $1Bn if all the devs had been American or European?
Seven year dev cycle with 500 overpaid Bethesda chimps sounds like it would be expensive.
If you paid 150 devs $150k a year that would be $22M (a reminder they are paid that anyway because they are employed by Bethesda anyway). So that is $154M over 7 years. Where is the rest of $250M bearing in mind poos are roped in to reduce costs? Marketing costs maybe, what marketing exactly, where is the money going that goes into the 10's of millions? Like I say for tax purposes a company is going to claim everything to reduce the tax burden. And of course no one is going to see the financials on this game, we do know poos were roped in tho & that would be to reduce costs.
Royalties, rights contracts, fees for engines and systems because Bethesda has no coders, etc and so forth.
Well it would be interesting to see just how much an outsourced game would cost. But then that would also mean in house costs would also not be that high would it?
In theory, but Todd likes to tell you that gamebryo with a bolt on lighting kit is a brand new engine, so I think he doesn't give a frick about the functionality of his spaghetti code. Or as another anon put it in some other thread, "a ship is theseus nightmare"
>reminder they are paid that anyway because they are employed by Bethesda anyway
They are not paid regardless, they are largely subbed out and paid exclusively for their work on this project. Also, gross salary is just one part of total compensation, benefits etc.(which they will be charged for through the sub contract) are about 40% of gross pay, and you also completely neglected overhead and non-human resources
As it is owned by Microsoft & shareholders will dictate if part of Microsoft is hurting profits time will tell if Bethesda is jettisoned. Of course there is also the possibility firms like Microsoft keep entities going for the larger vision of a company going forward. That only goes on so long before something is folded. Will be interesting if & when Microsoft get Activision, they are all brands of course & Activision has COD which lives ort dies on sales. If COD were to see falling sales, it starts a ball rolling of course.
Desperately praying for a flop lmao
DELUSIONAL MAXIMUS
the jump is just compress the space between you and your destination.
so the travel is instant.
by this logic maybe some part of universe can be more suitable for the jump creating FLT
Maybe then we'd get another good TES or Fallout game, Anon. Don't you want good games again? Don't you miss them?
based market analyst
20 million copy sold
KYS
[citation needed] Mr Howard.
don't care, CGR enjoys it.
BOOMERS fricking won, deal with it homosexual
It's great because it isn't star slop
I think it's kinda good. Also realistic. Globohomosexual UN is the UC. All the red-blooded maga Americans created the freestar (free-state) collective.
People have access to starships like RVs there's no point to living in a city when you can just park ur RV anywhere and not pay rent.
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
REALISTI SPACE?
BAD
REDDIT SOAP OPERA?
GOD
A
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
FTL space travel is not realistic
if light takes 1000 years to reach alpha centuary
NOTHING IS REALISTIC EXCEPT THAT
Space dragon shouts aren't realistic either.
space and time.
all starfield power are base on quantum physich mechanics.
you can evven go back in time if you can go really really near the speed of light.
Quantum Physics is a meme
quantum physich is just the extensio of basic physich to really big and really small things.
in short do you know waves have the same behavior of atoms?
so if you abstract a wave as an atom you can use it for really interesting things.
repeat this process for everything and you can control the space and time.
I don't understand physics or relativity. I remember watching this youtube video that explained that the speed light travels is relative to the observer, so someone could travel in a spaceship on a journey that takes say 4 years to the people left behind, but for the people on the ship it would only seem like a few months passes, or something like that.
Nope
time is relative to the speed.
if you go to light speed your time slow meanwhile other people get old.
for travelling huge distances in space ppl would have to go into cryogenic sleep, I would argue that it would be stupid to even send humans those distances anyway with the advance of robotics & AI. that would mean of course not knowing anything for hundreds & thousands of years tho (if it got there & was intercepted etc).
is not real exploration just a backup in case of humanity downfall.
the only suitable way for space travelling is compress the space aka the Jump
yeh you have to get the distance which is changing the space you exist in or have a link between 2 distances that bend time & space. the good thing about all this is in video games & sci fi in general you can use theoretical physics to justify something that really isn't possible with current knowledge of actual physical physics.
depend
we know space has holes.
find 1 of them, put inside a molecule at the right frequency and here your compressed space.
my solution is not possibile for now but at least is theorically possible and the only economically reasonable project
It's a bit like let's say 200 years ago & someone saying one day there will be computers, TV's etc. Whereas ppl could have come p with an idea of them the tech & knowledge just wasn't there until of course other inventions made the possibility a final reality. So it would be kind of foolish to think things that are not possible could never be possible.
It's also a lot like when people in the 1800s though that the human body was physically incapable of going over 100mph. They believed that the very act of achieving such velocity would, IIRC, stop a mans heart.
It was "impossible" in the same was FTL is "impossible" now. Namely: Dullards can't imagine it.
both of you have right
the problem is the theory, to create these things theory need to advance a lot.
TV and other technologies were theorized because discovers of theories make them theorically possibile to realize.
the question is
FTL is theorically possible?
if yes then in an X years can be done.
You talk as if scientific theory is a linear process, but history shows that to simply not be the case.
Any day, at any time, someone could make a complete random discovery purely by random happenstance and unlock the keys to FTL. Science is random and unpredictable. Always has been.
Your over-reliance on buzzwords and complete lack of any sort of logic or explanation does not do your case justice, youngling.
I'll give you points for not using emotes. You're better than most of your peers.
science is a little different from the movie.
and this miracolus discovers born thanks a lot of knowledge before it, we need people and money to make this process start, then a miracle can happens.
>Movie.
I specifically referenced history, ESL.
Newton and the apple. For example. Or vulcanized rubber and the frying pan.
You are simply incorrect on this point.
>we need people and money to make the process start
Yes and we better make sure water is wet and the sky is up too.
the gravity was already an old process and he could complete his studies only thanks the recent discover of infinitesimal calcolus.
I'm really starting to get annoyed with your pisspoor grasp of the Queens English, ESL.
Explain what the post I am responding to has to do with the discussion at hand. What point do you think you are proving?
An example of how things don't progress at a specific rate is AI. It has advanced greatly & yet could slow down due to other restraints & yet another discovery could make it speed up far more faster. In a way AI may well help in discovering things humans are incapable of doing, the question then would be should that occur or be restrained to only specific areas of science?
AI is ust the result of the mass data produced by internet thanks social media.
you could not produce AI 50 years ago even with the same technology without the DAT internet produced
AI was produced decades ago as soon as computers were developed & has been improved upon via more knowledge & yes more data. No one actually "invented" AI because it was just series of programming lines that was built upon. It is the speed of what has been achieved via developments that proves that science doesn't move at a specific rate & why would anyone think it would anyway?
I imagine when "science" is synonymous with "wierd shit europeans do" then it could appear to be linear progress at a steady pace.
When you dont have to do any of the actual work yourself it always easy to get a distorted view of the process.
>Do people really want to explore in a space exploration game?!
>>Do people really want to explore in a space exploration game?!
so you land on a planet at the specific site of interest that is allowed before you get to the planet. You get out of the ship (or you are already out of the ship) you use the scanner to look for other areas than the one already given to you. You explore the site given to you, you then have to walk to those other areas you scanned. You scan more areas as you go because more pop up along the way. those areas are now there to be discovered. Tell me this, in other games do areas that are discovered become available for fast travel (at least areas nearby) once those areas are discovered? Ort would you prefer to have to travel for hours to get to specific area you want? In NMS ppl literally need to build warping to space stations to cut down on the BS of having to take off & travel to a space station. Star Citizen ppl have to waste hours of their life just to travel by foot. I would know how the opposite complaints would arrive if Starfield had no fast travel & you had to tediously travel to each star system & take an hour to do so.
>no one wants to travel for long times
>People do it in NMS and Star Citizen though
????
Done with you, ESL. Learn English if you want to talk to humans.
>>no one wants to travel for long times
do it in NMS and Star Citizen though
yeh & NMS get's boring after a while doing that because travelling in space is boring. I would argue that travelling on a planet probably should have been included & yet at the same time it's all an illusion & just extending your time doing nothing & the scanning from there is the same as on foot but quicker. Star Citizen is for ppl who want a track sim or fly sim experience but in space with the added feature of walking around areas as if you were there. So basically like real life with all the boring elements of inconvenience. I don't think anyone really expected Starfield to be like Star Citizen & yes they did lie in saying you could fly to planets like NMS. Personally I don't mind the fast travel system, yes there is some cope there but I know no fast travel would make the game pretty boring.
this
they will always b***hes.
BLAND?
why no aliens?
KYS COOMER
BECAUSE YOU ARE STUPID
>in other games
BECAUSE IS THE ONLY THING THEY CAN DO
LOL
>if light takes 1000 years to reach alpha centuary
It takes light 4.2465 years to reach there. It's the closest star to our sun hence why it would be the first to be reached if faster space travel is ever reached
so 4 years at speed light
sorry i was wrong on the time.
still you can go there with a 4 years travel AT MAX.
since you are forced to go more slow thn light you will take a lot of year
SO IS NOT REALISTIC
I don't know what the realistic possible max speed would be if near or FTL isn't. Probably hundreds of years until absolutely new tech beyond even theoretical possibilities with current knowledge. 60-70 years of space tech hasn't yielded any new tech with regard to speed in space, still using the same tried & tested system. Probably hundreds & maybe thousands of years before anything is developed.
cool bro
every single time you need to go to alpha centauri you will take 4 years at light speed.
really good economy and state based on this ANON.
Yes that is why FTL is in sci fi which isn't realistic. So all the Star Citizen ppl thinking how great it is to fly in space via a sim, they are admitting their sim is just a fantasy stretching any current knowledge of how physics works. Wormhole travel or Stargates would actually be more realistic to travel between those huge distances.
Unironically, I don’t get the appeal of this kind of very hard sci-fi.
It's a white mans thing. You wouldn't get it.
Trek is the ultimate White man's show though.
Starfield isn't hard sci-fi.
Not for lack of trying.
I'm not naive enough to believe there was any trying involved in the creation of Starfield. More likely it was just them trying to justify their bland, sterile setting without any thought being put into what hard sci-fi actually is.
You misunderstand me. They "tried" to make a hard sci-fi setting. The "try" is that they said "lets make a hard sci-fi setting." That's all the effort they put into it. But it was their aim. It's what they were attempting to do.
Too boring to be good fantasy sci-fi.
Too casual to be a good space sim.
A game for literally no one.
>boring
lol cope
go to the museum of UC and you will ahve really fun.
>too casual
Ships alon filtering all others space operas.
a real economy
Aimed for Foundation ended up on BSG
I like how shills are suddenly pretending exploration wasn't one of the biggest selling points of bethesda games
like you shouldn't feel disappointed for every point of interest being reduced to a fast travel icon
>Exploration
>There's nothing to explore, it's all abandoned desert worlds
>There's no walking, just click on icon and loading screen
Huh
's no walking, just click on icon and loading screen
well you have to walk to get to that loading screen & then that newly discovered loading screen is then available. Do ppl really want to walk for an hour to get to 2 points on a map or drive there soaking up the barren landscape that would occur on most worlds?
Was a major selling point of Skyrim NOT the ability to pick a direction, walk, and emergently discover new and interesting locales, people, and vistas? Or are you moronic?
same for starfield
the block you walk on is bigger than fallout 4 map.
with locations at any angle
>The block you walkon is big
Big and empty.
>locations at any angle
ESL FRICK OFF PLEASE FRICK OFF ESL
Skyrim is on a very small scale. sure they could have gone the NMS route where you can travel the whole planet by the ship or vehicle. or mech suit etc. So instead of having to walk to areas & then get them available to you, instead you have to fly around & scan area from the ship. I mean in reality you could just scan a planet from space & know what is on there in general terms & then just fly to those areas. I guess the modders will add the ability to fly around the planet & added areas of interest would then pop up when scanned. I don't know really if this improves a game where you simply can do that by foot once you land.
THE BEST EXPLORATION EVER
TRUE FREEDOM
just zoomers got filtered by daggerfall
>You can go anywhere, do anything! that's why I like bethesda games!
Can I fly around the surface of a planet with my ship?
>... no?
Can I do EVA?
>no.
Can I decorate the inside of my ship?
>No
Can I walk from one end of the planet to another?
>no
Can I put an airlock on the upper deck of my ship so I can have a balcony?
>No, why would you want that?
I could land near enemy bases and use it as a firing platform
>You can't land near enemy bases
I can't choose where I land?
>No, it's a cutscene
Can I skip the cutscene?
>no.
So much freedom of choice!
>Can I fly around the surface of a planet with my ship?
to risky.
>decorate your ship
YES
>walk
you can wlak for kilometers, if you reach the boudaris just use the ship to reach the other block
>arlock
yes
>land near the enmies
YES
YOU NEVER PALTED THIS GAME
You can decorate the interior of your ship? Or did you not know what the word "inside" meant, Pajeet ESL?
>You can walk until you reach the boundry
kek. Do you not know what boundry means, pajeet ESL?
>Too risky
For a filthy streetshitter like you, maybe.
>airlock
No one asked if airlocks are in the game. EVA means going outside the airlock while in space to manuever in vacuum. Get a dictionary handy for that sentence.
>Land near enemies
You chose where you land? Like you can decide to land at the back of a building instead of the front?
Or do you just choose a pixel on a globe and the game decides where you land based on whatever landing zone the developers added to the map of that zone?
>palted
Fricking kek.
>Or did you not know what the word "inside" meant, Pajeet ESL?
you can put 1000 sandwhich in your shipa nd all the obejcts
>cboundry
a gigant map before encorunter it
COPE
>airlock
you can do anything with the shil buildier
>buildings
all buildins ahve their own spaceport moron
YOU WILL NEVER PALYED THIS GAME
>big an empy
yes is a planet and you want to walk ona bigger and empier map without borders?
LOL
BIPOLAR
This is the same thing that happened with Skyrim. The art design is on-point, but once again Ganker reveals itself to have sub-normie taste. Quit watching post-90s anime you shits.
It's trash
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>jewtube
>reddit thumbal
fricking KYS
I doubt there is even one ounce of creativity left in all of North America.