It's getting PC support homie! >120hz >2000 x 2040 Per Eye >OLED >110 FOV >eye tracking >finger tracked controllers >headset haptics >full SteamVR support + PSVR exclusives
The Valve Index killer was already here we just didn't know it yet.
Okay, I don't like fresnel lenses but for the feature set and price, the PSVR2 is pretty hard to beat.
Hell I've been using my Samsung Odyssey Plus over my Varjo Aero recently
You're paying for the quest with your data >inb4 but I don't care if Mark records my penis
Well most people do in fact care if Mark records their penises
There's a lot to like here, but it'll heavily depend upon how hacked together the PC support is. My inclination at this point is to wait until there is an untethered option with similar specs, but we'll see how things are looking when the update happens. Would be nice if the Quest 3 had an oled variant.
Not by itself. It will likely still require a PS5 cause only streaming to the ps5 is possible unless you have a gpu with a USB c directly into the gpu. It's not electronically able to work alone cause it doesn't have some kind of chip.
He's right, the appeal of a video game is already about being immersed in a digital world; there is nothing about VR gaming that can add to this idea that conventional video games can't. If this wasn't the case, the technology would have caught on the first time that it was introduced in arcades.
>there is nothing about VR gaming that can add to this idea that conventional video games can't
BRUH THEY ADD ANODAH DIMENSION
IMAGINING LOOKING IN A SHOOTER WITH YOU HEAD WHILE YOUR BODY AND GUN STAY POINTED AT THAT DOORWAY
FLATTIES WILL NEVER GET IT
3 months ago
Anonymous
Blind fire kills are the most rewarding and never fail to make me laugh
VR is a meme and will always be a meme. People don't want to frick around with a dumbass homosexual looking headset strapped to their face. Normies legitimately find VR icky so it will never ever EVER gain real adoption.
how vain do you have to be for the fashionability of a device you use in the privacy of your own room to be a factor at all?
it's not fashionable to sit at a triple monitor gooning setup posting on Ganker but that doesn't stop a lot of you
Since when do we want to be around normies? Who are these people posting this shit cause they sure as hell ain't gamers. We come to vidya tk get away from normies. Normies not liking vr is a feature not a problem
>VR is a meme and will always be a meme.
VR is niche, but it's not a meme.
It's obvious weakness is motion sickness and similar discrepancies in movement. This is why VR is not great for anything that requires interactive walking. But, anything where you're stuck in the drivers seat, a wienerpit, or a stationary location like shooting gallery (superhot)? That's prime. Amazing even if you have a setup with acceleration feedback.
Been trying to warn yall since it was announced. Pc seems to be the last bastion for gaming for the next at least 3 years. You will see zero investment from the console market or mainstream studios. The next 3 - 6 years will be almost all indie, fan an open source projects and mods. None of which current "consoles" can participate in.
because console certification for indie games is literally a "pay X money to sell on consoles".
when debt was easy to acquire devs would just load up a couple of credit cards and pay it off.
now it's gonna be hellish.
Psvr 2 was nearly an after thought for sony. And it released 2 years to late. It was obsolete on arrival apart from eye tracking but they did jack shit with it but fricking auto aim which is the worst fricking thing you can do for gaming.
>obsolete on arrival
it had inside out tracking and eye tracking while not being a thousand dollars. there isn't a single headset for pc with those features. how is that obsolete??????
Not standalone, not color passthrough, no xr functionality, fresnal lenses (biggest issue). And for them eye tracking was just a gimmick (that probably caused the bulk of price since at the time everyone else dropped it to keep prices lower)
Standalone is fricking worthless, no amount of hardware will ever come close to providing a decent experience without costing as much as the Vision Pro. Even the latest Valve patents show that they're abandoning standalone for external compute units because cramming all that shit onto the headset provides an objectively worse experience than tethered.
Nope. Standalone (wireless) tethered to pc is unbeatable by anything flat. Even not just gaming. Already decided to replace my projector with my quest 3. And anyone who uses a projector, it's almost impossible to go back to a physical screen/monitor. And games, I tried going back to flat. Flat was just objectively boring. Flicking a stick and mashing a button was not fun at all anymore. And the screen. Even with a wall sized movie projector just felt so tiny. You couldn't pay me to go play game flat again
literally every uber casual who bought the apple headset is crying about basic things that need to be fixed for mainstream VR adoption.
apple did not do anything different beyond very high resolution lenses(coming soon to everyone else) and tight software integration(anyone with a brain doesn't want this coz it limits useability)
Wowee, just like the first one. I own one of those and don't really regret buying it, but they hardly supported it at all. The most fun I've had with it was in wipEout, ZoE 2 and Rez.
No one wants VR. No one asks for it. Yet every few years someone releases a headset that no one buys. The only games you get for it are DLC for other games or indie shit 8 other people bought. The games are all about the gimmick and aren't actually good games on their own. If they were good enough, they'd have released them for a wider audience.
not really, when VR was new there were tons of open source projects planning on porting VR games to "flat" screens.
no one was interested so those projects languish.
>this game only runs at 4K on the latest and most expensive nvidia gpu/intel cpu >surely we can port it to VR without compromises!
whole premise is moronic.
Are you implying that a VR game is bad because its flat screen port is bad? A lot of people who have never tried VR have the braindead take that you could just take out the "gimmick" control scheme and basically have the same game, but look at the utter mess that is the Half Life Alyx flatscreen port to see what it actually looks like to have to manipulate objects in 3D with clunky keyboard mappings and no depth perception.
If the game was good, they wouldn't make it a VR game. They'd make it a traditional game. Instead VR garbage is all about "OH WOW INSTEAD OF USING A JOYSTICK TO LOOK AROUND YOU CAN WEAR THIS HELMET AND LOOK AROUND WITH YOUR HEAD!"
now post a clip of someone looking at a VR "experience" and complaining about the narrow FOV.
even mkbhd was hemming and hawing when his casual coworkers were complaining about it lmao
Are you implying that a VR game is bad because its flat screen port is bad? A lot of people who have never tried VR have the braindead take that you could just take out the "gimmick" control scheme and basically have the same game, but look at the utter mess that is the Half Life Alyx flatscreen port to see what it actually looks like to have to manipulate objects in 3D with clunky keyboard mappings and no depth perception.
> sifting through trash is clunky on traditional set up
Thats not why nobody played it
The whole objective was to make a VR game. Your logic is moronic.
There's shit you can do in VR that you couldn't in a traditional game beyond just looking around
>There's shit you can do in VR that you couldn't in a traditional game
if a "traditional game" allowed you to use VR controllers with a flat screen it would get you to 80 percent of the immersion level.
> There's shit you can do in VR that you couldn't in a traditional game beyond just looking around
LOL no there isn't.
It's more about not being locked out of 70% if the view by flat view
Wow you get more visuals of a 2 hour long PS2 quality game win which nothing happens at all that requires you to own a 4090 and jacking into the matrix to "play". All to do something a big TV/monitor and a regular controller can do! AMAZING!
That's on a 1080 homosexual. And that's palworld where they're fricking life sized which is wild
3 months ago
Anonymous
LOL that game looks like wet ass. Imagine thinking using your head instead of a joystick to look at shit assets running in 240p is a revolutionary experience.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Physical aiming is 1000x better unless you're disabled. Playing pvp games feels like actual hunting
3 months ago
Anonymous
Gyro aiming in alyx is clunky looking too. Aiming with your face is even gayer than a joystick. Only way aiming with your face would feel right is laser eyes.
Waitgays are gay. Don't be a waitgay
Most obvious shilling ever. buy an ad
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's not gyro homosexual. It's basically as if you have the gun in your hand
3 months ago
Anonymous
How does the system detect the postion and orientation of the gun?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Cameras and ir lights
3 months ago
Anonymous
no wonder its a jittery mess.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Its jittery because your hands are jittery and not all games will try to emulate weight to smooth out motion of things you are holding. It there were tracking errors, you would be guaranteed to make yourself sick. Similarly, if a game is clunky, it is also because you are clunky and the game is accurately recreating your clunkiness.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Nice try shill. I read all about it just now and saw how everybody is spending hours setting up their bases just so and they still cant keep the systems from dropping tracking and glitching because your ir sensor system is a glorified wii controller. I also read about how the goggle do have gyros which makes sense sense I dont see the screen mechanism being a jittery mess. Maybe if your precious product manufacturers didnt go balls deep into 3+ bases but instead used more gyros with the infared to generate smooth tracking your shaking skinny wrists wouldnt be twitching the in game objects so much.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Modern headsets really don't have this problem. It's just pretty clear you've never tried any VR content otherwise you'd admit the appeal even if it wasn't your bag.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Ignoring the other moron, the PSVR2 really can't do this
It's more about not being locked out of 70% if the view by flat view
? I thought it was mandatory for vr headsets to take up your entire field of vision and rotate the camera with your head.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Sony actually said they were going to (minus the motion controls) but they never delivered and never brought it up again. It's not that they cant, it's that they don't want to.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Huh. That's fricking stupid. Hopefully it works on pc but thanks anyway now I can avoid it.
If an indie simultaneously releases on multiple platforms it was not a real indie, it was an aa. And aa will be the new aaa so aa needs to be avoided like the plague
Im still debating if i should get the PSVR2 when it supports PC, or if i should just get the Quest 3..
I know the Quest 3 ditched the Meta account bullshit finally, and it looks much sharper than the Quest 2 and wireless..
anyone who tried both headsets can tell me which headset is more comfy + better overall image quality? (right now i have the Hp reverb g2 which is just "okay" )
Both are shit. Those headsets are still the pre-Apple market entry era. Wait a few more years for when Apple's shit gets good and competitors have made their copies.
PSVR2 has the benefit of better contrast/colors and having eye tracking (idk how that's gonna transfer to PC though since there's a software component to that)
Q3 has the benefit of having near perfect lenses (almost 0 glare and consistently sharp corner to corner) and wireless streaming + you'd have access to the standalone library if you care about that at all.
you'd probably need an aftermarket headstrap though to bring it up to PSVR comfort, but i only got to use the PSVR once meanwhile i own a Q3 so idk how straining the PSVR is long term
Thank you anon.. sounds like Q3 is a bit interesting.. i dont care for "muh colors" in PSVR too much
Both are shit. Those headsets are still the pre-Apple market entry era. Wait a few more years for when Apple's shit gets good and competitors have made their copies.
As for you, you're a gay.. lol at '"""muuh daddy Apple""". Just a severely overpriced shit headset that cant even do any VR and weighs a ton on your head.
Also ive already waited many years, ive had the HP reverb g2 since it almost launched and im not waiting many years for minor improvements yet again
It's not about Apple, it's about what they do to the market. Development will happen rapidly now that companies want to compete with Apple. This benefits cost and specs. Buying now would be like buying a Nokia to replace your Blackberry when the iPhone came out. If you already got something it's totally fine to keep using a bit more until the really good stuff comes out.
AVP's impact on the VR market isn't even close to the iPhone's impact on the phone market, and 2020's Apple is a shadow of 2000's Apple.
iPhone was night and day better than all of its competition at the time, AVP arguably isn't much better at all than it's competition for 7x the price
You either did not experience the original iPhone at launch or you're misremembering. It did some important things well but even a lot of people then were saying it was shit, just like people are dunking on the AVP today.
A more valid difference is that Apple launched the pro model before the base and that the iPhone was for a product segment that people needed rather than saw as a potential expensive toy or peripheral.
Still, the effects are happening in a similar way. You think companies like Samsung and BOE would be ramping up production of 4k micro OLED panels if it weren't for Apple? Hell no. It's literally thanks to them and competitors trying to keep up with them that we're getting these types of components finally and pretty cheap (the panels which are the most expensive component in AVP are only $500 for the both of them). So we're going to get cheap headsets with much better specs now. I hate Apple, but you can't deny their power over the market. For a tiny market like VR, they have a huge impact.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You need to keep in mind that Apple pushed back their planned cheaper Vision model (i.e. $1500-2500) from next year because the manufacturing still cost too much.
3 months ago
Anonymous
There might be some issues with how they plan to do it with the complexity of their headset design. But in theory a headset that is around $1-2k of the same specs is not out of the realm of possibility now from other companies, now that we know the mass production cost of the panels. Imagine a 4k Beyond. That's what the Apple effect has already enabled, we just need to see those headsets release. We know Samsung already is planning to get one out this or next year.
Comparing VR/AR to smartphones also seems flawed to me because the latter was a highly disruptive innovation that changed more than just the mobile phone market. The way smartphones consolidated many features into a single device made it's popularity inevitable with or without the iPhone.
VR headsets have not proven themselves especially disruptive so far and the AVP seems particularly averse to demonstrate use-cases exclusive to VR.
It's been doing this for months after v60 update and the support staff are still responding with generic support messages. Every headset is broken, anyone saying its not a problem is a shill.
Does this only happen with airllink? My Q2 has exhibiting awful artifacts in dark, high contrast areas ever since I bought a 4090. Turns out using virtual desktop or a 3rd party program to disable asynchronous spacewarp in airlink fixes it. Hard to tell from the video if it's the same issue.
make it backwards compatible with ps4vr games and they could start selling, but i heard the optics are designed in a way that those games wont display correctly or some other bullshit
Both PSVRs are good products for their price ranges but PSVR2 was doomed the moment it did not have backwards compatibility. You can't play fricking Wipeout on it...
Wipeout is fricking amazing in VR. I need to capture some footage, none of those WEBMs are mine. I captured some this week but the footage was bad because I hadn't played in over an year and kept crashing.
The feeling of driving behind other drivers and having jetwash flowing on your face is wild.
Have you noticed how the VR shilling has stopped? Not just from Playstation but Valve has stopped talking about VR. Because it's a meme, a niche within a niche and it's anti social rock bottom tech piece.
VR is amazing you dont go back to flat screens after
Curved screens cant even compete
Flaties gonna seethe until the day Alyx is made affordable to them then they will join the bandwagon
>there is nothing about VR gaming that can add to this idea that conventional video games can't
BRUH THEY ADD ANODAH DIMENSION
IMAGINING LOOKING IN A SHOOTER WITH YOU HEAD WHILE YOUR BODY AND GUN STAY POINTED AT THAT DOORWAY
FLATTIES WILL NEVER GET IT
People really underestimate the feeling of actually holding a gun in VR. I didn't play much but the little I did of Firewall, it was amazing that I could do things like this.
And I was holding a regular PS4 controller lmao.
Firewall was amazing. Too bad they fricked the netcode and made it unplayable after one of the updates. Also XP gains were way too slow for a VR game that's exhausting to play and has cumbersome peripherals. Really awesome idea but the execution sucked long term. Also not making the gun controller a PC compatible peripheral and licensing it out to more devs was a huge mistake. That gun was one of my fav PSVR experiences. It was good in that other scifi shooter too.
Probably because people are prone to getting nauseated from fast movement in vr, especially if they are new to it. Thankfully I got over that within a couple days, but some people are more susceptible to it, and it's definitely one of the things holding VR back right now.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Ill be more interested once they get a good regardless of vr pvp fps on it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, I hear you. Thing is it's incredibly fun to fly around super fast in VR. Modding blade and sorcery to have super jumping, and quick movement is some of the best fun I've had in ages, but it's something a lot of people aren't even going to try to get used to because it basically necessitates turning your stomach at least a couple times, and I can't really blame someone for not wanting to push through that.
Most VR FPS games are slow because operating a gun is a lot more involved so the games tend to be a lot more tactical. It doesn't feel that slow in the headset though, you have to remember that recorded footage is effectively a super zoomed-out view which makes things look slower. There's nothing stopping games from being faster. I played Serious Sam in VR for example. But I think for most VR games it feels weird to walk around at 60 mph in environments that are actually to scale.
In a flat game best you can do is hit a cover fore button and either shoot wildly or auto aim or the camera is above so it's moronic no skill bs. I vr you gotta use the spatial audio the guess where the guy is and actually aim blindly (judging the angle) and actually hit your target. Flat games basically play like mobile game now, but muh ray tracing
If they made it a standalone xr, pancake lenses, true blacks, 4k per eye, that could carry sony vr for the early ps6 years, that would actually be an alpha move
>3 min 1080p
1080p vr... welp, my excitement died. 1080p in VR is the equivalent of like 480p in flat screen.. in other words fricking trash.
VR vids needs 4k to 5k minimum to look acceptable
>100 bucks
huh? on their website it says like 2 dollars per minute.. which is very reasonable if you have some normal shorter hentai/porn clips to covert.
You're not trying to convert some 2 hour JAV to 3d are you? lol
I'm also curious if it upscale because the 1080p and 4k are the outputs (only 1080p is free)
And right now I'm more curious about converting like Instagram videos since those are likely 1080p anyways and it's infinite scroll 3d that I'm waiting for
>Didn't implement some way for the older games to be BC which killed my interest and forced me to buy a PSVR1. >Almost no exclusives and the few there are are seemingly still years out. >Most of the games are on other platforms so no real reason to even buy a PSVR2. >Has absolutely no fanfare or investment from Sony compared to PSVR1 and it feels like they sent it out to die. >Costs as much as a PS5 itself.
PSVR2 is just moronic all around.
Fallout VR is really amazing except for the part where the whole fricking game was made for vive and the controls are buggy as hell and its been abandoned
But Far harbor in VR is AMAZING
Fallout 4 VR rain is AMAZING
Nuka world is AMAZING
VR really made this game twice as good
But the glitchy controls are annoying as hell if my controller even points at a companion it starts their dialogue even in combat
Ofc bethesda abandons the few good things going for them
Virtual Reality like the NFT and Games as a Service were all pitches to boomers for making investments. The VR being the best scam for boomers. You need a powerful console or PC to do this and let's just say PS5 since Nintendo and Xbox don't care about VR. A $500 console needs a $500 VR headset and a $900 entry PC needs a $300 VR headset, no games so far btw. Now of the games available, how many are worth it in VR? 2? 5? That's a lot of money. VR is just not there for mass consumption and augmented reality mogs the living shit out of VR anyway. No one wants to see spergs play YuGiOh in VR but augmented reality and we're in business for the masses. VR buyer's remorse here, cry Playstation and Valve VR paypigs. You are not the future of gaming.
>You need a powerful console or PC to do this
Cope and seethe console fricker
Im thinking of upgrading to a better gpu since mine redlines in VR
So much for the $2000 Gpu but you just play fortnite meme
Wish i just saved up and put $5000 into my PC instead of this $3000 shitter i have
I use my VR headset (quest3) everyday even for flat screen gaming because you can get like a projected 80" screen TV in front of you and just chill on the couch while you play any PC games.
Even if you don't use it for VR you can use it as a display system that's superior to a TV/projector.
homosexuals on Ganker don't like VR because it's still early in the technology and these guys are expecting full VR like SAO and Ready Player One.
This is an incredibly stupid way of thinking. It's like Ford releasing the Model T in 1908 and gays being mad that it doesn't have heated steering wheel, power windows, and backup camera
We went from tethered to fully standalone VR in that period of time, tell me how you're going to move goalposts again.
Hell, we have things as compact as the bigscreen beyond now.
I don't think there's much interest in Onward these days after they downgraded the game to run on the Quest 1 and all of the original talent from the studio left.
VR is having a hell of a time getting off the ground.
Carmack was talking a few years ago that he believes it'll be a niche product until such a time that it is easier to start using than a modern smart phone and just as easy to use. With a smart phone you can unlock the screen on less than a second and begin using it, a VR head set requires you to put it on, adjust it correctly and then power it on, then (for oculus) draw a boundary if it can't recognize where you are which takes almost 30 seconds. In all, to start a VR headset, it can take as long as 5 minutes to get into something, as opposed to a smart phone that takes maybe 3 seconds if you're slow and have a long ass password. On top of that, a smart phone is extremely light and easy to use, while VR is heavy and clunky despite their best efforts and having to use controllers makes the experience subpar compared to a touch screen.
Carmack envisioned some sort of VR headset that was light as normal pair, as easy to put on with hand tracking and said even then it would be a blow out in the smart phone's favor since you do not have to put on a smart phone, the process of grabbing it is all you need, as opposed to the make believe sunglasses VR which has to additional step on placing on the face.
Just a difficult thing to get going, I have no idea how it will ever become mainstream beyond a novelty you use once.
Clear glass AR is struggling to get a high resolution image without blocking too much light from passing through the glass. If they can solve it then sunglasses are the most realistic option for AR and very light VR uses. Most people already own a pair of sunglasses so it can market itself as a replacement in the same way that smartphones were enhanced mobile phones. The ideal 'smart AR glasses' for normalgays will replace their sunglasses, earpods and sometimes their camera while becoming their virtual smartphone screen, hand tracked controls and AR viewer. It would be complementary to a smartphone.
VR will never achieve that level of mainstream adoption. It's not a particularly disruptive tech, it has the potential to become extremely expensive materially as we chase ever greater immersion and it will never be as light and effortless as science fiction has led people to immaturely expect. Right now you wouldn't even use it to replace your TV unless you just never have guests over.
I like playing VR games but this is a new niche with a unique appeal, not a replacement for existing genres and platforms. Socializing in VR may also one day be more than just a degenerate clubhouse but there are a lot of hardware hurdles that will need to be overcome before casuals and normalgays will find it easy and comfortable enough for them to use regularly.
VR is too narrow. It can only be for first person games. Playing other games on it is pointless. It has to be a good enough experience that you would get enough adopters to have people make good enough experiences for it > alyx is trash stop coping and trying to convice us granny with a gun is good
It could be nice but anything that doesnt manage to package it as more than just vr is going to be trapped in this conundrum of no games, no adoption, no adoption, no games.
> Playing other games on it is pointless
Have you actually tried other games with it? VR is not just about motion controls and games sill have a benefit from the visual aspects.
There are plenty of mods for 3rd person games to show that being able to have the vr view is nice. For one officially supported game, I’ll go with Umihara Kawase. Even in a side scroller, being able to see depth gives a better sense of motion to make the feel of swinging more satisfying.
LMAO I just opened my phone, swiped to "news" and saw this headline, clicked the ellipses, chose "don't show content from IGN" and boom, the article disappeared.
I had not seen a more stupid headline in quite some time. After Sony just spoke of their work in supporting PSVR2 on PC, and the fact that I bought myself one for xmas and use it a lot, drives me to believe this "journalist" didn't even google "psvr2" before writing this article. I own 25 games for the PSVR2. Most of them I have never heard of on Ganker, because they are original IP's so the threads die immediately. Games like RUNNER and The Last Clockwinder are awesome, but they are never mentioned on Ganker, because VR is such a niche market. I bought a PSVR2, because the price and visual/tracking quality are finally worth dipping in to. I was shocked at how great the software support is. I was taking a risk only owning GT7 and NMS, but I have bought more than 20 games since I got the headset.
VR is not being supported by large coprs, because it is too niche. PSVR2 is the first headset with legitimately good visual quality at a price that isn't $1000+. It sucks it's stuck on PS5, but the announcement from Sony might make modding easier.
My biggest beef with VR is if the game is too short it feels like a tech demo.
But the longer the game goes the less important the controls are, for example this game. At the start you are shielding, parrying and even evading irl, but after 10 hours you are just standing there doing throwing motions to trigger abilities and pointing at objectives.
because people expected some kind of Matrix/SAO, not some shitty screen tapped to your eyes, that + a lot of issues people won't buy them, so VR tech is still a meme a decade later, it wil need something really big to happen in tech industry to become good, if not it it will remain a meme even in 2034
would sell if pc support was added
>he doesn't know
Does that mean I will finally be able to play Resident Evil 7 and 8 in VR on PC?
You've been able to play Resi 7 VR on PC for ages?
It's getting PC support homie!
>120hz
>2000 x 2040 Per Eye
>OLED
>110 FOV
>eye tracking
>finger tracked controllers
>headset haptics
>full SteamVR support + PSVR exclusives
The Valve Index killer was already here we just didn't know it yet.
Forgot HDR
Only real negative is the Fresnel lenses
Which is big enough to throw it in the trash (once you try fresnal, theres no going back)
Okay, I don't like fresnel lenses but for the feature set and price, the PSVR2 is pretty hard to beat.
Hell I've been using my Samsung Odyssey Plus over my Varjo Aero recently
lol . why do quest homosexuals go on and on about the lenses and completely ignore the shitshow of the rest of the headset?
Because any other lense is blurry af compared to em
Quest 3 is the same price and a better value.
>same price
>better value
elaborate pls
Not locked down. Wireless. Has functionality outside of gaming
thank you sir
>facebook
>not locked down
ok zuckerbug
Plays basically every competitors games in some way or form and allows non official content sideloaded. Quit being a foggot for a day
>OH NO NO NO
cope troonyberg not buying your botnet
Go back to your 70$ plus tip mobile games then
Only a better value if you want pancake lenses, pass through, and mixed reality content
Oh, and if you want to play untethered
I will never buy meta product.
You're paying for the quest with your data
>inb4 but I don't care if Mark records my penis
Well most people do in fact care if Mark records their penises
>Wired.
>can't play re4 vr
not interested
There's a lot to like here, but it'll heavily depend upon how hacked together the PC support is. My inclination at this point is to wait until there is an untethered option with similar specs, but we'll see how things are looking when the update happens. Would be nice if the Quest 3 had an oled variant.
It has just began
I will buy it
Not by itself. It will likely still require a PS5 cause only streaming to the ps5 is possible unless you have a gpu with a USB c directly into the gpu. It's not electronically able to work alone cause it doesn't have some kind of chip.
You do know sony just fired almost all of is vr staff this week right?
Theres no point to VR unless its for porn
Why are poor people like this? You can't even use your imagination to see what amazing strengths VR brings to gaming. Lol KYS genetic trash
it's hilarious how you shills can't stop parroting about vr's potential and whatever bullshit but never actually give arguments
pretty much this joke
dude, you can get wmr headsets for 100 bucks. stop being a bitter moron.
Won't be able to use headsets that use mixed reality portal soon. At least on Win 11
He's right, the appeal of a video game is already about being immersed in a digital world; there is nothing about VR gaming that can add to this idea that conventional video games can't. If this wasn't the case, the technology would have caught on the first time that it was introduced in arcades.
>there is nothing about VR gaming that can add to this idea that conventional video games can't
BRUH THEY ADD ANODAH DIMENSION
IMAGINING LOOKING IN A SHOOTER WITH YOU HEAD WHILE YOUR BODY AND GUN STAY POINTED AT THAT DOORWAY
FLATTIES WILL NEVER GET IT
Blind fire kills are the most rewarding and never fail to make me laugh
>see what amazing strengths VR brings to gaming
VR came out in the 90’s. I’m still waiting to see what strengths VR provides.
err. it places you inside a life size game world with 3d depth rather than looking at your tv screen.
are you really this dim?
3D depth is not worth the motion sickness and the hot, sweaty brick taped to your skull. Wake me up when deep dive is here.
Imagination eliminates the need for VR you dickless c**t.
>It got the Project Wingman DLC, the only PS5 game I ever wanted
>Absolutely nothing else
>PW sequel stuck on PS5 forever, now.
FRICK
VR is a meme and will always be a meme. People don't want to frick around with a dumbass homosexual looking headset strapped to their face. Normies legitimately find VR icky so it will never ever EVER gain real adoption.
>Normies legitimately find VR icky
Wish PC was like this forever
VR is one popular streamer away from mass adoption
I can't coom from anything flat anymore
I have the opposite problem.
how vain do you have to be for the fashionability of a device you use in the privacy of your own room to be a factor at all?
it's not fashionable to sit at a triple monitor gooning setup posting on Ganker but that doesn't stop a lot of you
The only way for VR to ever take off is to have it be like SAO
>normies legitimately find pcvr icky
chicks will get the ick if you don't have a vision pro
Since when do we want to be around normies? Who are these people posting this shit cause they sure as hell ain't gamers. We come to vidya tk get away from normies. Normies not liking vr is a feature not a problem
>VR is a meme and will always be a meme.
VR is niche, but it's not a meme.
It's obvious weakness is motion sickness and similar discrepancies in movement. This is why VR is not great for anything that requires interactive walking. But, anything where you're stuck in the drivers seat, a wienerpit, or a stationary location like shooting gallery (superhot)? That's prime. Amazing even if you have a setup with acceleration feedback.
Been trying to warn yall since it was announced. Pc seems to be the last bastion for gaming for the next at least 3 years. You will see zero investment from the console market or mainstream studios. The next 3 - 6 years will be almost all indie, fan an open source projects and mods. None of which current "consoles" can participate in.
Cause.. indie games don't come out on consoles?
Ports costs more money. Real Indies don't have the funds to build for every platform. PC is usually the easiest platform to release on first
because console certification for indie games is literally a "pay X money to sell on consoles".
when debt was easy to acquire devs would just load up a couple of credit cards and pay it off.
now it's gonna be hellish.
Psvr 2 was nearly an after thought for sony. And it released 2 years to late. It was obsolete on arrival apart from eye tracking but they did jack shit with it but fricking auto aim which is the worst fricking thing you can do for gaming.
>obsolete on arrival
it had inside out tracking and eye tracking while not being a thousand dollars. there isn't a single headset for pc with those features. how is that obsolete??????
Not standalone, not color passthrough, no xr functionality, fresnal lenses (biggest issue). And for them eye tracking was just a gimmick (that probably caused the bulk of price since at the time everyone else dropped it to keep prices lower)
Standalone is fricking worthless, no amount of hardware will ever come close to providing a decent experience without costing as much as the Vision Pro. Even the latest Valve patents show that they're abandoning standalone for external compute units because cramming all that shit onto the headset provides an objectively worse experience than tethered.
Nope. Standalone (wireless) tethered to pc is unbeatable by anything flat. Even not just gaming. Already decided to replace my projector with my quest 3. And anyone who uses a projector, it's almost impossible to go back to a physical screen/monitor. And games, I tried going back to flat. Flat was just objectively boring. Flicking a stick and mashing a button was not fun at all anymore. And the screen. Even with a wall sized movie projector just felt so tiny. You couldn't pay me to go play game flat again
>Standalone (wireless) tethered to pc
Isn't that literally what he said?
>Re4 vr
>Coming out to PC
Sony is cooking. You just have to be patient.
is there official announcement that there will be re4 vr mode on pc?
I can't wait for the PC support so I can play No Man's Sky every day for 1 and half hours
I guess you could say it's snoyver.
Even apple couldn't make VR work, do you think sony's shitass engineers and product designers could?
Apple increased production of avp by another like 200k units. Which is like 40%
literally every uber casual who bought the apple headset is crying about basic things that need to be fixed for mainstream VR adoption.
apple did not do anything different beyond very high resolution lenses(coming soon to everyone else) and tight software integration(anyone with a brain doesn't want this coz it limits useability)
Mostly weight reduction because apple is moronic and added 3 heavy af shits to the heaviest unbalanced place to put em.
But you're wrong! Hiroko Tokimeki is going to bring HL:Alex and PC support to it!
Wowee, just like the first one. I own one of those and don't really regret buying it, but they hardly supported it at all. The most fun I've had with it was in wipEout, ZoE 2 and Rez.
in other words: NO FRICKEN GAMES
No one wants VR. No one asks for it. Yet every few years someone releases a headset that no one buys. The only games you get for it are DLC for other games or indie shit 8 other people bought. The games are all about the gimmick and aren't actually good games on their own. If they were good enough, they'd have released them for a wider audience.
>"if they were good enough, they'd release them for a wider audience"
Can you not see how moronic what you just said is?
not really, when VR was new there were tons of open source projects planning on porting VR games to "flat" screens.
no one was interested so those projects languish.
We have uevr now...
>this game only runs at 4K on the latest and most expensive nvidia gpu/intel cpu
>surely we can port it to VR without compromises!
whole premise is moronic.
still coping, poorgay?
Are you implying that a VR game is bad because its flat screen port is bad? A lot of people who have never tried VR have the braindead take that you could just take out the "gimmick" control scheme and basically have the same game, but look at the utter mess that is the Half Life Alyx flatscreen port to see what it actually looks like to have to manipulate objects in 3D with clunky keyboard mappings and no depth perception.
If the game was good, they wouldn't make it a VR game. They'd make it a traditional game. Instead VR garbage is all about "OH WOW INSTEAD OF USING A JOYSTICK TO LOOK AROUND YOU CAN WEAR THIS HELMET AND LOOK AROUND WITH YOUR HEAD!"
It's more about not being locked out of 70% if the view by flat view
now post a clip of someone looking at a VR "experience" and complaining about the narrow FOV.
even mkbhd was hemming and hawing when his casual coworkers were complaining about it lmao
Huh? I have no idea what your talking about. Do you not have a neck or something? How do you look around in real life?
That looks terrible
> sifting through trash is clunky on traditional set up
Thats not why nobody played it
The whole objective was to make a VR game. Your logic is moronic.
There's shit you can do in VR that you couldn't in a traditional game beyond just looking around
>There's shit you can do in VR that you couldn't in a traditional game
if a "traditional game" allowed you to use VR controllers with a flat screen it would get you to 80 percent of the immersion level.
> There's shit you can do in VR that you couldn't in a traditional game beyond just looking around
LOL no there isn't.
Wow you get more visuals of a 2 hour long PS2 quality game win which nothing happens at all that requires you to own a 4090 and jacking into the matrix to "play". All to do something a big TV/monitor and a regular controller can do! AMAZING!
That's on a 1080 homosexual. And that's palworld where they're fricking life sized which is wild
LOL that game looks like wet ass. Imagine thinking using your head instead of a joystick to look at shit assets running in 240p is a revolutionary experience.
Physical aiming is 1000x better unless you're disabled. Playing pvp games feels like actual hunting
Gyro aiming in alyx is clunky looking too. Aiming with your face is even gayer than a joystick. Only way aiming with your face would feel right is laser eyes.
Most obvious shilling ever. buy an ad
It's not gyro homosexual. It's basically as if you have the gun in your hand
How does the system detect the postion and orientation of the gun?
Cameras and ir lights
no wonder its a jittery mess.
Its jittery because your hands are jittery and not all games will try to emulate weight to smooth out motion of things you are holding. It there were tracking errors, you would be guaranteed to make yourself sick. Similarly, if a game is clunky, it is also because you are clunky and the game is accurately recreating your clunkiness.
Nice try shill. I read all about it just now and saw how everybody is spending hours setting up their bases just so and they still cant keep the systems from dropping tracking and glitching because your ir sensor system is a glorified wii controller. I also read about how the goggle do have gyros which makes sense sense I dont see the screen mechanism being a jittery mess. Maybe if your precious product manufacturers didnt go balls deep into 3+ bases but instead used more gyros with the infared to generate smooth tracking your shaking skinny wrists wouldnt be twitching the in game objects so much.
Modern headsets really don't have this problem. It's just pretty clear you've never tried any VR content otherwise you'd admit the appeal even if it wasn't your bag.
Ignoring the other moron, the PSVR2 really can't do this
? I thought it was mandatory for vr headsets to take up your entire field of vision and rotate the camera with your head.
Sony actually said they were going to (minus the motion controls) but they never delivered and never brought it up again. It's not that they cant, it's that they don't want to.
Huh. That's fricking stupid. Hopefully it works on pc but thanks anyway now I can avoid it.
clearly the idea is appealing and in demand if people are buying hardware in the tens of millions despite there being little to actually do on them
Black person, the Quest 2 alone sold 20M units. That's not PS2 numbers, but there is obviously a market to be tapped there.
If an indie simultaneously releases on multiple platforms it was not a real indie, it was an aa. And aa will be the new aaa so aa needs to be avoided like the plague
Was Helldivers 2 AAA then?
Pseudo aaa yes. That was a successful version of neo aa, and what has cemented it as the route the entire industry will "emulate"
>recently highlighted a bunch of upcoming games
>announced pc support sometime this year
>abandoned
what is it with journos and their clickbait shit?
Didn't realise how many gays hated VR and for what? lmao
Im still debating if i should get the PSVR2 when it supports PC, or if i should just get the Quest 3..
I know the Quest 3 ditched the Meta account bullshit finally, and it looks much sharper than the Quest 2 and wireless..
anyone who tried both headsets can tell me which headset is more comfy + better overall image quality? (right now i have the Hp reverb g2 which is just "okay" )
Both are shit. Those headsets are still the pre-Apple market entry era. Wait a few more years for when Apple's shit gets good and competitors have made their copies.
Waitgays are gay. Don't be a waitgay
PSVR2 has the benefit of better contrast/colors and having eye tracking (idk how that's gonna transfer to PC though since there's a software component to that)
Q3 has the benefit of having near perfect lenses (almost 0 glare and consistently sharp corner to corner) and wireless streaming + you'd have access to the standalone library if you care about that at all.
you'd probably need an aftermarket headstrap though to bring it up to PSVR comfort, but i only got to use the PSVR once meanwhile i own a Q3 so idk how straining the PSVR is long term
Thank you anon.. sounds like Q3 is a bit interesting.. i dont care for "muh colors" in PSVR too much
As for you, you're a gay.. lol at '"""muuh daddy Apple""". Just a severely overpriced shit headset that cant even do any VR and weighs a ton on your head.
Also ive already waited many years, ive had the HP reverb g2 since it almost launched and im not waiting many years for minor improvements yet again
It's not about Apple, it's about what they do to the market. Development will happen rapidly now that companies want to compete with Apple. This benefits cost and specs. Buying now would be like buying a Nokia to replace your Blackberry when the iPhone came out. If you already got something it's totally fine to keep using a bit more until the really good stuff comes out.
AVP's impact on the VR market isn't even close to the iPhone's impact on the phone market, and 2020's Apple is a shadow of 2000's Apple.
iPhone was night and day better than all of its competition at the time, AVP arguably isn't much better at all than it's competition for 7x the price
This anon speaks 100% truth.
People need to stop sucking Apple's stinky dick, they are just a shadow of their former self.. and for maaany many years.
You either did not experience the original iPhone at launch or you're misremembering. It did some important things well but even a lot of people then were saying it was shit, just like people are dunking on the AVP today.
A more valid difference is that Apple launched the pro model before the base and that the iPhone was for a product segment that people needed rather than saw as a potential expensive toy or peripheral.
Still, the effects are happening in a similar way. You think companies like Samsung and BOE would be ramping up production of 4k micro OLED panels if it weren't for Apple? Hell no. It's literally thanks to them and competitors trying to keep up with them that we're getting these types of components finally and pretty cheap (the panels which are the most expensive component in AVP are only $500 for the both of them). So we're going to get cheap headsets with much better specs now. I hate Apple, but you can't deny their power over the market. For a tiny market like VR, they have a huge impact.
You need to keep in mind that Apple pushed back their planned cheaper Vision model (i.e. $1500-2500) from next year because the manufacturing still cost too much.
There might be some issues with how they plan to do it with the complexity of their headset design. But in theory a headset that is around $1-2k of the same specs is not out of the realm of possibility now from other companies, now that we know the mass production cost of the panels. Imagine a 4k Beyond. That's what the Apple effect has already enabled, we just need to see those headsets release. We know Samsung already is planning to get one out this or next year.
Comparing VR/AR to smartphones also seems flawed to me because the latter was a highly disruptive innovation that changed more than just the mobile phone market. The way smartphones consolidated many features into a single device made it's popularity inevitable with or without the iPhone.
VR headsets have not proven themselves especially disruptive so far and the AVP seems particularly averse to demonstrate use-cases exclusive to VR.
DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT buy Quest 3 until this issue is fixed
White and colored pixel artifacts blink on the screen in dark areas it ruins the entire fricking headset.
https://communityforums.atmeta.com/t5/Get-Help/Known-Issue-Rainbow-screen-artifacts-Natively-and-PCVR/m-p/1140389
It's been doing this for months after v60 update and the support staff are still responding with generic support messages. Every headset is broken, anyone saying its not a problem is a shill.
doesn't on mine?
Does this only happen with airllink? My Q2 has exhibiting awful artifacts in dark, high contrast areas ever since I bought a 4090. Turns out using virtual desktop or a 3rd party program to disable asynchronous spacewarp in airlink fixes it. Hard to tell from the video if it's the same issue.
make it backwards compatible with ps4vr games and they could start selling, but i heard the optics are designed in a way that those games wont display correctly or some other bullshit
Both PSVRs are good products for their price ranges but PSVR2 was doomed the moment it did not have backwards compatibility. You can't play fricking Wipeout on it...
Imagine this 4k 120fps HDR Oled bros...
fffrick...
Wipeout is fricking amazing in VR. I need to capture some footage, none of those WEBMs are mine. I captured some this week but the footage was bad because I hadn't played in over an year and kept crashing.
The feeling of driving behind other drivers and having jetwash flowing on your face is wild.
Damn, I bet that's frickin crazy in VR
>Wipeout your entire stomatch within 10 seconds: VR
>not being drunk or high while VR gaymin
Land Lovers will never get it
All i need is my trusty bottle of rum, some coke and a VR Nuka-World conquer
I have an iron stomach and have never felt ill on a VR game, but people who do have said that Wipeout is not a particularly nauseous game.
If you are a pansy, you can always just not turn the comfort settings off. Both those webms were All Safeties Off. Here's one with all safeties on.
Flip is not on by default. See this webm.
Cool stuff.
Would be good if you could turn off the flip camera.
>random flips for no reason other than to make you throw up
bravo
Have you noticed how the VR shilling has stopped? Not just from Playstation but Valve has stopped talking about VR. Because it's a meme, a niche within a niche and it's anti social rock bottom tech piece.
>$500
>only plays on PS5 consoles
>can't be used with PCs
What were they thinking?
VR is amazing you dont go back to flat screens after
Curved screens cant even compete
Flaties gonna seethe until the day Alyx is made affordable to them then they will join the bandwagon
>flatties
Grow up and use real words.
HOW DO FLATTIES SHOOT AROUND CORNERS??????
THEY CANT THATS THE JOKE LMAO LMAO HON HON HON
People really underestimate the feeling of actually holding a gun in VR. I didn't play much but the little I did of Firewall, it was amazing that I could do things like this.
And I was holding a regular PS4 controller lmao.
Firewall was amazing. Too bad they fricked the netcode and made it unplayable after one of the updates. Also XP gains were way too slow for a VR game that's exhausting to play and has cumbersome peripherals. Really awesome idea but the execution sucked long term. Also not making the gun controller a PC compatible peripheral and licensing it out to more devs was a huge mistake. That gun was one of my fav PSVR experiences. It was good in that other scifi shooter too.
Apparently the PSVR2 sequel is a fumble due to not properly tweaking the gameplay for the new controllers.
>It was good in that other scifi shooter too.
Farpoint, the game with the alien spices that jump but only towards you face. I loved it.
> grandma with a gun
Why does every vr fps have the slowest movement ive ever seen?
Probably because people are prone to getting nauseated from fast movement in vr, especially if they are new to it. Thankfully I got over that within a couple days, but some people are more susceptible to it, and it's definitely one of the things holding VR back right now.
Ill be more interested once they get a good regardless of vr pvp fps on it.
Yeah, I hear you. Thing is it's incredibly fun to fly around super fast in VR. Modding blade and sorcery to have super jumping, and quick movement is some of the best fun I've had in ages, but it's something a lot of people aren't even going to try to get used to because it basically necessitates turning your stomach at least a couple times, and I can't really blame someone for not wanting to push through that.
Most VR FPS games are slow because operating a gun is a lot more involved so the games tend to be a lot more tactical. It doesn't feel that slow in the headset though, you have to remember that recorded footage is effectively a super zoomed-out view which makes things look slower. There's nothing stopping games from being faster. I played Serious Sam in VR for example. But I think for most VR games it feels weird to walk around at 60 mph in environments that are actually to scale.
In a flat game best you can do is hit a cover fore button and either shoot wildly or auto aim or the camera is above so it's moronic no skill bs. I vr you gotta use the spatial audio the guess where the guy is and actually aim blindly (judging the angle) and actually hit your target. Flat games basically play like mobile game now, but muh ray tracing
>Hold Q or E to lean out of cover
Lol Lmao even
homosexuals
>you either use my universally accepted and reddit curated words or you are a big meanie
homosexual Black person israelite
They abandoned the psvr1 in the same amount of time Sony knows their fans are a bunch of cultist millennial paypiggies and will buy the psvr3 anyways
If they made it a standalone xr, pancake lenses, true blacks, 4k per eye, that could carry sony vr for the early ps6 years, that would actually be an alpha move
A PS6 would need to be a high end PC at that point and the headset would cost more then the base ps6
It need to be able to run generative ai locally or its not next gen
Is this shit worth it for porn?
Sort yes. The downsides (for flesh porn) mightve just been fixed today with halodepth.com going free for converting 3 min 1080p video slips to 3d
>3 min 1080p
1080p vr... welp, my excitement died. 1080p in VR is the equivalent of like 480p in flat screen.. in other words fricking trash.
VR vids needs 4k to 5k minimum to look acceptable
It's super expensive to do 4k conversions but it's available. Think last I calculated like decent sized clip like 100$
>100 bucks
huh? on their website it says like 2 dollars per minute.. which is very reasonable if you have some normal shorter hentai/porn clips to covert.
You're not trying to convert some 2 hour JAV to 3d are you? lol
The whales can
I'm also curious if it upscale because the 1080p and 4k are the outputs (only 1080p is free)
And right now I'm more curious about converting like Instagram videos since those are likely 1080p anyways and it's infinite scroll 3d that I'm waiting for
>about converting like Instagram videos since those are likely 1080p anyways and it's infinite scroll 3d
anon... you're on to something here! hmmmm!
>Didn't implement some way for the older games to be BC which killed my interest and forced me to buy a PSVR1.
>Almost no exclusives and the few there are are seemingly still years out.
>Most of the games are on other platforms so no real reason to even buy a PSVR2.
>Has absolutely no fanfare or investment from Sony compared to PSVR1 and it feels like they sent it out to die.
>Costs as much as a PS5 itself.
PSVR2 is just moronic all around.
>not backwards compatible
>$1050
>No games
>wire
Fallout VR is really amazing except for the part where the whole fricking game was made for vive and the controls are buggy as hell and its been abandoned
But Far harbor in VR is AMAZING
Fallout 4 VR rain is AMAZING
Nuka world is AMAZING
VR really made this game twice as good
But the glitchy controls are annoying as hell if my controller even points at a companion it starts their dialogue even in combat
Ofc bethesda abandons the few good things going for them
Liars, they just announced planned PC support
Virtual Reality like the NFT and Games as a Service were all pitches to boomers for making investments. The VR being the best scam for boomers. You need a powerful console or PC to do this and let's just say PS5 since Nintendo and Xbox don't care about VR. A $500 console needs a $500 VR headset and a $900 entry PC needs a $300 VR headset, no games so far btw. Now of the games available, how many are worth it in VR? 2? 5? That's a lot of money. VR is just not there for mass consumption and augmented reality mogs the living shit out of VR anyway. No one wants to see spergs play YuGiOh in VR but augmented reality and we're in business for the masses. VR buyer's remorse here, cry Playstation and Valve VR paypigs. You are not the future of gaming.
>You need a powerful console or PC to do this
Cope and seethe console fricker
Im thinking of upgrading to a better gpu since mine redlines in VR
So much for the $2000 Gpu but you just play fortnite meme
Wish i just saved up and put $5000 into my PC instead of this $3000 shitter i have
>no games so far btw for VR
There are tons of games are you stupid
Pavlov vr
Contractors
Onward
Vertigo 1&2
Skyrim vr
Fallout vr
Beat saber
Femdomination 2
Carrier command 2
Moss 1&2
and
HALF LIFE ALYX
Alyx changed my life tbh
Skyrim VR is a whole new world in itself I'll add, load it up with mods and that's easily 1000hours of gameplay
I use my VR headset (quest3) everyday even for flat screen gaming because you can get like a projected 80" screen TV in front of you and just chill on the couch while you play any PC games.
Even if you don't use it for VR you can use it as a display system that's superior to a TV/projector.
I just ordered a quest 3. my cv1 served well.
homosexuals on Ganker don't like VR because it's still early in the technology and these guys are expecting full VR like SAO and Ready Player One.
This is an incredibly stupid way of thinking. It's like Ford releasing the Model T in 1908 and gays being mad that it doesn't have heated steering wheel, power windows, and backup camera
>because it's still early in the technology
It’s been around since the 90’s and still no noticeable difference beyond better graphics.
We went from tethered to fully standalone VR in that period of time, tell me how you're going to move goalposts again.
Hell, we have things as compact as the bigscreen beyond now.
but tethered is more powerful
>w-we have wireless now!
whole quest line is a meme
>competitive VR shooter scene
Onward is my bet. It is a sweaty one shot kill sim
Graphics look like 10 years ago but hey it runs VR really well
I don't think there's much interest in Onward these days after they downgraded the game to run on the Quest 1 and all of the original talent from the studio left.
Onward is trash today but goes free with quest plus tomorrow. As does contractors and the new contractors beta
People are finally realizing that VR is a gimmick and that portable AR is the future
>index is 20 years old
>only other option is zuckerBlack person or gaystation
VR is having a hell of a time getting off the ground.
Carmack was talking a few years ago that he believes it'll be a niche product until such a time that it is easier to start using than a modern smart phone and just as easy to use. With a smart phone you can unlock the screen on less than a second and begin using it, a VR head set requires you to put it on, adjust it correctly and then power it on, then (for oculus) draw a boundary if it can't recognize where you are which takes almost 30 seconds. In all, to start a VR headset, it can take as long as 5 minutes to get into something, as opposed to a smart phone that takes maybe 3 seconds if you're slow and have a long ass password. On top of that, a smart phone is extremely light and easy to use, while VR is heavy and clunky despite their best efforts and having to use controllers makes the experience subpar compared to a touch screen.
Carmack envisioned some sort of VR headset that was light as normal pair, as easy to put on with hand tracking and said even then it would be a blow out in the smart phone's favor since you do not have to put on a smart phone, the process of grabbing it is all you need, as opposed to the make believe sunglasses VR which has to additional step on placing on the face.
Just a difficult thing to get going, I have no idea how it will ever become mainstream beyond a novelty you use once.
Clear glass AR is struggling to get a high resolution image without blocking too much light from passing through the glass. If they can solve it then sunglasses are the most realistic option for AR and very light VR uses. Most people already own a pair of sunglasses so it can market itself as a replacement in the same way that smartphones were enhanced mobile phones. The ideal 'smart AR glasses' for normalgays will replace their sunglasses, earpods and sometimes their camera while becoming their virtual smartphone screen, hand tracked controls and AR viewer. It would be complementary to a smartphone.
VR will never achieve that level of mainstream adoption. It's not a particularly disruptive tech, it has the potential to become extremely expensive materially as we chase ever greater immersion and it will never be as light and effortless as science fiction has led people to immaturely expect. Right now you wouldn't even use it to replace your TV unless you just never have guests over.
I like playing VR games but this is a new niche with a unique appeal, not a replacement for existing genres and platforms. Socializing in VR may also one day be more than just a degenerate clubhouse but there are a lot of hardware hurdles that will need to be overcome before casuals and normalgays will find it easy and comfortable enough for them to use regularly.
VR is too narrow. It can only be for first person games. Playing other games on it is pointless. It has to be a good enough experience that you would get enough adopters to have people make good enough experiences for it
> alyx is trash stop coping and trying to convice us granny with a gun is good
It could be nice but anything that doesnt manage to package it as more than just vr is going to be trapped in this conundrum of no games, no adoption, no adoption, no games.
> Playing other games on it is pointless
Have you actually tried other games with it? VR is not just about motion controls and games sill have a benefit from the visual aspects.
name one game that isnt first person for vr. Its kind of the whole point. Even the rythm game beat saber is first person.
There are plenty of mods for 3rd person games to show that being able to have the vr view is nice. For one officially supported game, I’ll go with Umihara Kawase. Even in a side scroller, being able to see depth gives a better sense of motion to make the feel of swinging more satisfying.
LMAO I just opened my phone, swiped to "news" and saw this headline, clicked the ellipses, chose "don't show content from IGN" and boom, the article disappeared.
I had not seen a more stupid headline in quite some time. After Sony just spoke of their work in supporting PSVR2 on PC, and the fact that I bought myself one for xmas and use it a lot, drives me to believe this "journalist" didn't even google "psvr2" before writing this article.
I own 25 games for the PSVR2. Most of them I have never heard of on Ganker, because they are original IP's so the threads die immediately. Games like RUNNER and The Last Clockwinder are awesome, but they are never mentioned on Ganker, because VR is such a niche market. I bought a PSVR2, because the price and visual/tracking quality are finally worth dipping in to. I was shocked at how great the software support is. I was taking a risk only owning GT7 and NMS, but I have bought more than 20 games since I got the headset.
VR is not being supported by large coprs, because it is too niche. PSVR2 is the first headset with legitimately good visual quality at a price that isn't $1000+. It sucks it's stuck on PS5, but the announcement from Sony might make modding easier.
the best part about onward for me is weaponizing my height. i am oddjob.
My biggest beef with VR is if the game is too short it feels like a tech demo.
But the longer the game goes the less important the controls are, for example this game. At the start you are shielding, parrying and even evading irl, but after 10 hours you are just standing there doing throwing motions to trigger abilities and pointing at objectives.
VR is a complete meme. It's annoying to use and it's not comfortable.
>anyone who wears glassed gets reduced fov and less immersion unless they buy fricking prescription lenses for the VR set alone
no fricking shit it bombed, vr is a meme
And i just got this and a ps5 as a christmas gift
feels kinda bad but i guess it didn't come out of my wallet
Not supporting old and adequate stuff is probably what willnkill them as a company.
Bruh he bought FACEBOOK VR
Lmao
His grandma finna use that headset to augment your ass in her kitchen lmao
because people expected some kind of Matrix/SAO, not some shitty screen tapped to your eyes, that + a lot of issues people won't buy them, so VR tech is still a meme a decade later, it wil need something really big to happen in tech industry to become good, if not it it will remain a meme even in 2034
VR will be a dead meme when the Half Life Alyx Vance spinoff gets a non gimmick port. Nervous, Valve Index beta testers?
Sony released a VR2?