>want romance >don't care about child characters >instead of just rewriting it so that Celine is 18 instead of 16 they just make it platonic because I'm weird for finding a petite anime blonde cute
Love it. Dudes import a pedo game and then shame you for buying it.
Fire Emblem was already "saved" once after Awakening sold so much to persuade the funding of more FE games, given they all follow the Awakening Mold
Enjoy the Zombie Fire Emblem era
Clearly we are heading back to a 3H type of game after the failure of Engage. All I ask for is a good character artist. Both 3H and Engage's character designs are fricking terrible.
Pirate poized releases, download mods to turn that shit to gold, Massively reward Good releases, tell your whole group of friend’s and their friend’s friend’s and so on to follow the same game plan or at least buy the good releases, and when shit hits the fan, jump ship entirely and find a alternative or a way to recreate it.
Mainly the otome art style. It really attracts tumblr/twitter crowd for some reason.
It's not anime but not TOO anime. Look at Engage then look back at 3H and you see the same crowd be grossed out at the colorful style of Engage being "too anime".
nta and I agree with what you’ve but it’s kind of a pity because I think Kurahana’s artstyle is really good and suited both games, though it would have been preferable if the in-game portraits and CGs reflected that better than what we got
The racist accusations for Ingrid are really stupid. She'll frick Claude and have children him with her only complaint being that he's lazy. The reasons for Ingrid's hatred of the people of Duscur has to do with the primary plot of Azure Moon
They already did a good game with engage and 4 is a bad game
I know that you're a FE4 fan excited to play FE4 for the first time but Quan dies chapter 5
>stale
Awakening was dogshit but conquest, engage and even 3 trannies weren't stale at all
You're calling those games stale but not the copy pasted GBA games and the copy pasted NDS games?
>shit map design + everyone's favorite ambush spawns >god awful unit design, balancing the game around grinding optional skirmishes in a fricking fire emblem game to get child units who aren't shit >not wanting to deal with the trash child units and grinding results in the game being a Robin solo run >lunatic+ straight up untested and forces you to do the water trick just to play the game, the devs clearly wanted to sell the shitty P2W grinding DLC but forgot to make it unlock early >entire game is just nostalgiagay pandering, ranging from shittons of Archanea references, to glowing spots giving you fricking weapons from previous FE lords for no reason, and DLC being filled with recruitable characters from previous games, including the goddamn son of Ike >characters are 1 not gimmick shit. Kellam's joke is that we cannot le see him. Stahl is Trek 2.0. Tharja is baby's second yandere. Le funny candy thief, etc etc
Thank god that I had a NDS with a flashcard back then. The system's nigh infinite library made me not want to buy a 3DS until ~2015, so I didn't have to cope into pretending that Awakening was good due to the insane early 3DS game drought
Awakening is shit
You cannot refute this
The only good thing that Awakening did was save the franchise and give us conquest, echoes and engage.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Whole lot of shit opinions
Cool
Consider the following >Great map design >Sweet unit design >Getting to breed ideal child soldiers >Makes homosexuals that play on lunatic seethe >lol who the frick buys DLC >Gay c**ts do, that's who buys DLC >Another mention on having sweet character designs.
You can't refute these points
Awakening not only gave us a great game with something completely new from the stale series, it also saved the franchise and gave us a few more instalments that I've generally enjoyed.
Enjoy having shit taste bro.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I recommend that you play the sardine game instead since you clearly don't like the fire emblem part of fire emblem
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I like this game >No you don't, play this piece of shit instead
11 months ago
Anonymous
You clearly want to play a shitty grindan TRPG, so have an actual grindan TRPG
Liking a game because you can grind to give all child units galeforce is literally disgaea's entire gameplay style, it was made for awakening babies
If you want an actual strategy game which you don't since you got filtered by lunatic and possibly played on casual too then awakening is a bad game and FE 1 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 conquest 3H Engage are better games
11 months ago
Anonymous
>txt
Cool
I might start another Awakening campaign and have fun with it.
Feel free to keep posting in the meantime.
11 months ago
Anonymous
This, ladies and gents, is the problem with FE today
Artists, sure.
Writers can go frick themselves with a 12ft log.
The dog shit story is what made me drop this game.
utter brainlets. The only thing that doesnt make sense in the story is why milo would report the salt deposit to idore if you picked the return home route. Otherwise everything in the game makes perfect sense unlike 3H where the mere existance of edelshart has caused unrepearable damage to video games forever
Edeltard only want's Byleth's hand. Which she doesn't deserve.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Edelgard is a woman so I never took her seriously
11 months ago
Anonymous
Kill Edelgard. Behead Edelgard. Roundhouse kick Edelgard into the concrete. Slam dunk Edelgards baby into the trashcan. Crucify Edelgard. Defecate in Edelgards food. Launch Edelgard into the sun. Stir fry Edelgard in a wok. Toss Edelgard into active volcanoes. Urinate into Edelgards gas tank. Judo throw Edelgard into a wood chipper. Twist Edelgards head off. Report Edelgardto the IRS. Karate chop Edelgard in half. Curb stomp Edelgard. Trap Edelgard in quicksand. Crush Edelgard in the trash compactor. Liquefy Edelgard in a vat of acid. Eat Edelgard. Dissect Edelgard. Exterminate Edelgard in the gas chamber. Stomp Edelgards skull with steel toed boots. Cremate Edelgard in the oven. Lobotomize Edelgard. Mandatory abortions for Edelgard. Grind Edelgard in the garbage disposal. Drown Edelgard in fried chicken grease. Vaporize Edelgard with a ray gun. Kick Edelgard down the stairs. Feed Edelgard to alligators. Slice Edelgard with a katana.
Total Edelgard Death
11 months ago
Anonymous
average church/faerghus route schizophrenic:
11 months ago
Anonymous
Take your meds, Dimitri.
11 months ago
Anonymous
He let his rage out, he doesn't need meds. After everything he's back to being the same Dimitri who wanted to protect/save young Edelgard back then. She's the one who's stuck in place and can't move on.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>After everything he's back to being the same Dimitri who wanted to protect/save young Edelgard back then.
And you missed it at least partially. Dimitri's fatal flaw was that his sense of duty was horrifically misplaced. Because was the sole survivor of the Tragedy of Duscur, as a king, it was his duty to achieve vengeance in the name of those who died and then, over the course of 5 years, it mutated into achieving vengeance for everyone who has ever died a wrongful death. But you can't avenge everyone who has died a wrongful death. Especially in a war. Boar Dimitri's goal would never be fulfilled, he'd just be trapped killing Imperials, Bandits, and Thieves forever until someone killed him. You know... like what happened in 3 out of 4 routes. In order for him to live he would have to be convinced to let go of those who were already gone and focus on those who can still be saved. An idea that's very difficult for him not only because of the Tragedy but because of Faerghus tradition as a whole
>Claude: In my search for truth, I read up on the old rituals of the eastern regions of Faerghus. Those who died with regret are thought to end up in an underworld of sorts. Somewhere cold. Somewhere dark. Somewhere...creepy. To escape from their bitter limbo, they did their way up through the earth, trying to find the surface...or the light in other words. And so they creep about endlessly in the cold dirt of the underworld, clinging to their hopeless desire...Creepity creep, Annette. Creepity creep.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not gonna read all that. He called her El and she threw the dagger back at him. It was obvious what the scene was alluding to.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Genuinely makes no sense for this cutscene to play in Verdant Wind since you barely know the chick.
Should have made each route have different things happen, like Edelgard dies before Dimitri in one route in the background or some shit.
They knew about this and did nothing.
How do we save fire emblem?
Isis doesn't take any constructive criticism.
How can we cure them of their arrogance?
We can't. All you can do is wait and pray against all reason that maybe one day for whatever reason through means we have nothing to do with another good fe emerges.
Until then we get games that are cobbled together with disjointed elements and design desicions, games that can only be partially good in some ways despite themselves.
So i'm gonna play the old games and whenever a new one comes up i'll have a look at it and think about why it's bad and why it's good, knowing that it won't matter at all or have an impact even if i convinced every single fire emblem fan on the face of the earth of my point of view.
Engagechad here
I like FE games. 5 6 conquest engage are my favorites. 4 7 3H are dogshit. I tolerate 8 solely due to the mods that it gave us.
Also, FEgays hating FE is normal you fricking tourist
Dear Engay, it was you who brought Reddit up, stop. I know it's hard for you to stop embarrasing yourself, but at least try
11 months ago
Anonymous
Thi was meant for
I'm a googlechad because yandex is shit now
You cannot refute the first "3H gud" search giving you a reddit link
Now frick off Redditgard
11 months ago
Anonymous
back to https://www.reddit.com/r/Edelgard/ you homosexual
The leddit strike is over, you can go back to the Edeltard circlejerk alongside your friends. You no longer have to hold back your tears whenever a Gankerirgin types Black person
I thought Engage was fine mechanically, even if I was skipping every cutscene and support from about halfway in. It's just the writing/character design that's an issue. I couldn't go back to endless monastery fricking around again even if the story was better, though. I'm not totally against hubs but ideally they'd be more like Three Hopes, where you do the hub stuff once every 5-6 fights, than Three Houses or Engage. The Somniel is a slight improvement over the monastery but there's still a lot of busy work to it.
I've finished all 3 games and I disagree
Monastery is undefendable, but you're clearly wrong about 3 copes camp and Somniel
>3 copes >have to constantly return to the main hub because the fricking inventory guy is full >obligatory cooking section because otherwise, awakening is straight up impossible to fill up and you're not allowed to use combat arts/magic because of the insanely low weapon durability >FRICKING TRAINING CAMP have to CONSTANTLY promote and reclass everyone to unlock more skills >have to return to the fricking camp at the end of the chapter because you unlocked more time to do more activities >shitty chores to increase motivation if you want your units to do non shit damage in a chapter
Meanwhile Somniel >cook (no ingredients needed) >collect ingots from dogs >do arena fights with emblems if you need to buy a new skill or get weapon proficiency to get a new class >forge this should have been in the pause menu but IS has brain damage >donations + roll for rings, which is done extremely rarely
That's it. All of the other activities have extremely low impact in the game.
>That's it. All of the other activities have extremely low impact in the game.
Counterpoint: I have autism and must do every single available activity, and that takes longer in the Somniel than the Three Hopes camp.
Thank god I don't have autism. One 3 copes expedtion was enough for me to figure out that I would never be touching that feature ever again even if my units kept pestering me about it
It died when it went 3D
I'm just enjoying waifu simulators with TBS combat in the meantime.
>There were no good girls in Blue lions route
Absolute dogshit taste, and I love Sothis
>Leonie
Miserable little jealous c**t. I fell for the trap of expecting her to be your typical tomboy girl >Ingrid
Used goods >Marianne
She's actually pretty good and got a great time skip design >Annette
Also great, especially to cuck Gay Guy Gilbert >Lysithia
My wife
Annoying brat tier shit at the start but her time skip turns her easily in to best girl
Just wanna mention as well that Raphael is also the best bro you can ask for.
Always recruit him and turn him in to a Hero class.
Tendies didn't have to do a shill campaign for engage unlike 3H because TOTK was just around the corner
Same reason why 3 hopes was forgotten so quick too despite the massive popularity that 3HRT had
>3 hopes was forgotten so quick too despite the massive popularity that 3HRT had
Or musou is a niche genre that most of the people who liked Three Houses weren't interested in.
3Copes is musou not canon and the story is so shitty that calling it fanfic-tier is an insult to fanfics. It killed the conversation of 3Houses for a while and left fertile ground for Engage to grow. But Engage turned to be so awful that people returned to Fodlan again.
Three Hopes was like weeks before Xenoblade 3, especially considering the leaks from it (you're welcome for that btw). I barely got one playthrough done for Three Hopes and haven't had time to go back to that.
3Copes is musou not canon and the story is so shitty that calling it fanfic-tier is an insult to fanfics. It killed the conversation of 3Houses for a while and left fertile ground for Engage to grow. But Engage turned to be so awful that people returned to Fodlan again.
How is 3 hopes plot even shit compared to 3H? Both games are the same garbage
Dimitri is the new verdant wind with all of the fricking shitty plot and lore exposition, except that you fight against those who slither in the dark except of Edelgard. They probably did this since they fricking refused to talk about those homosexuals in the original game and this was most likely their last chance. Shame that they didn't do this straight away in the first game, maybe homosexuals would have stop pretending that 3H had good plot no they wouldn't lol
Claude is the new edelgard route. Of course, brainlet 3Hgays only wanted 3H to be DIMITRI GOOD EDELGARD BAD so they go apeshit the moment a different character gets the spotlight, even though his actions fitted his character >noooo le heckin schemer character is not allowed to scheme and make use of the chaos of warfare to advance his muhracism agenda!! claude is supposed to be le epic scheming character that does not actually scheme
Edelgard is the crimson flower but finished. Yes, it's still boring as frick. Shit games
Want to know why homosexuals stopped playing 3 hopes and jumped back to 3HRT? It's because only 3H lets you groom underage kids
Objectively it killed the mistery and speculation on many elements of the original plot that would best be left to the imagination of represented them in a jarring way (look how the massacred my boy Holtz), introduced things that were not necessary like the whole Veronica simping o the nu-Sothis and while taking character plot to new directions sometimes it didn't felt in line from who they were in 3Houses.
Also, dude, chill with pedoshit; take your meds or something.
So 3H liked their game because it was incomplete garbage. Good to know.
IS take notes, make sure to include 20 different routes and have them all unfinished and copypasted with minor changes, except one so the fanbase can shill it just like how they do with blue lions
11 months ago
Anonymous
>So 3H liked their game because it was incomplete garbage.
No it was well received DESPITE being incomplete.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Because grooming underage students like Lysithea, twitter's favorite activity
Shez is such a fricking tumor on the lore. Completely pointless waste of time.
11 months ago
Anonymous
i just disregard the fact that he's some oc donut steel and pretend he's just some ltierally who merc who was in the right place at the right time. Story only gets better like this. It's not like him being a homunculus even goes anywhere
11 months ago
Anonymous
Honestly, it was prerelease that made me hype with Arval saying to “break the cycle” making me think the story was going to admit there’s a time loop going on.
But it was just a nothing burger in the end. There could’ve been so much cool stuff.
I loved the idea that Arval was an Argarthan-created AI that was implanted to various test subjects which cause various issues. Edelgard is more warmongering without Byleth’s soothing presence, Lysithea can faintly sense it and thinks it’s a ghost, but Shez was a successful integration.
But nope, just one dude that wanted to cheat death and made his soul transferable. Which is forgotten about after you kill Epidermis.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Edelgard is more warmongering
lmao. she's exactly the same. in fact she's the lord who undergoes the least amount of changes with blyat around (are there fricking any even? she doesn't seem to have an arc), while dimitri is a timebomb waiting to go off, and clint goes full moron
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Honestly, it was prerelease that made me hype with Arval saying to “break the cycle” making me think the story was going to admit there’s a time loop going on.
This. >DUUUUDE look Byleth is now this silent demon and you need to get revenge and defeat them! >In game: Nooooooooo let’s not get revenge on Byleth why don’t we be friends!
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Honestly, it was prerelease that made me hype with Arval saying to “break the cycle” making me think the story was going to admit there’s a time loop going on.
This. >DUUUUDE look Byleth is now this silent demon and you need to get revenge and defeat them! >In game: Nooooooooo let’s not get revenge on Byleth why don’t we be friends!
I always thought Fodlan had no canon ending and at some point later on in life Byleth would always reset reality to try again and have everybody live that time, only to go back too far and end up losing their memories.
>Want to know why homosexuals stopped playing 3 hopes and jumped back to 3HRT?
perhaps it's because homies prefer to go back to a strategy game IN A STRATEGY SERIES?
>3H >strategy
They could go back to literally half of the fricking franchise, but they instead chose to go back to the game that has stupid monastery VN padding cancer and completely ignored engage.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Ah, so it's just another butthurt Engagie. Figures. Carry on.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Because Engage is shit? These aren't mutually exclusive. You can want a strategy game but still want an interesting story and likeable characters. You must be genuinely autistic if you think caring about the genre means you can only care about the gameplay and nothing else.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>You can want a strategy game but still want an interesting story and likeable characters.
The joke is that Andy does not know what an airport is despite him being a fricking CO! Everyone then clapped and bought the newest advance wars game because who gives a frick about likeable characters and good story in a strategy game? Didn't day of ruin kill the franchise despite having an actual serious plot and characters that weren't walking memes and tutorials?
I FRICKING HATE storygays like you tards. FE3 outsold FE4, the plot game that everyones cums to. PoR and RD sold like shit despite being story focused games, fates is the second best selling game of the franchise despite the absolute masterpiece of shit writing valla, you're now dead anon, echoes flopped HARD because everyone called the gameplay shit
You 3HRTrannies went back to 3H because you hate fire emblem, it's that simple. I mentioned Engage because it was the only other fire emblem game released on the same system, but I guess that makes too much sense.
Well, FE7 is now on the switch too, let's see 3Hgays not play that game too.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You had this entire meltdown and yet none of what you typed actually refutes the fact that most people who play strategy games still want an interesting story and likeable characters.
I can't believe it but you are genuinely doing the online equivalent of a child having a temper tantrum.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>You had this entire meltdown and yet none of what you typed actually refutes the fact that most people who play strategy games still want an interesting story and likeable characters.
But everything I mentioned implies the same?
Everyone celebrated the shitty advance wars rom pack, a game where the story is absolutely fricking worthless and the characters are jokes. Isn't that a strategy game anon? Why didn't people care about that for advance wars anon? Why did people play and discuss fates for years despite that game being a literal shitpost? I thought muh plot was everything?
You 3Hgays will one day play your second FE game. And hell, maybe it will be the next year once Sigurd's game comes out next year and Quan Sigurd dies Arvis son is the villain Deirdre NTR
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Everyone celebrated the shitty advance wars rom pack
They literally didn't, though. Nobody plays Advance Wars. It was extremely niche. I don't know why you're trying to use this as an example against 3H when 3H sold 3.8 million copies and the Advance Wars reboot is unlikely to break 200k. You've just proven the opposite.
>I thought muh plot was everything?
No that was in fact not what I said, I said that people can want SRPG gameplay and still want an interesting story and characters. Which is the majority consensus for Fire Emblem.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Reboot camp still sold well and had extremely positive reception despite being literal $60 roms and having nintendo sabotage the release date
>No that was in fact not what I said, I said that people can want SRPG gameplay and still want an interesting story and characters. Which is the majority consensus for Fire Emblem.
So, before 3H, we could all agree that Fates had exactly the best story and characters. Echoes flopping hard compared to fates is proof of that, fates truly had the best plot and that's why people played it for years
11 months ago
Anonymous
"Still sold well" is a ridiculous argument to make when we're talking about mass appeal. More people want a story and characters with their SRPG. That's why 3H will eventually break 4 million whereas it's doubtful Advance Wars will ever reach 400k. You using Advance Wars as an example undermines your own argument because it IS extremely niche because it is so weak in non-gameplay areas.
Fates came out at a time when most newbies had never experienced anything other than the worst of FE writing. It's not surprising they had low standards at the time.
Engage is proof that if Fates came out in 2023 instead of 2016 it would have received a massive amount of backlash. New fans have higher expectations now whereas before they were willing to consume anything.
11 months ago
Anonymous
But homosexuals are unironically defending fates now when it gets compared to engayge though? And echoes, the one game that got praised for having a good story, flopped hard compared to fates. How did this happen?
Look, 3H was a success because:
- Constant E3, nintendo direct and twitter shilling. Higher than literally any other game of the franchise
- Smash bonus. The hype for the fighter pass was enormous and everyone had their years on the very last DLC slot. Byleth getting in gave 3H a shitload of publicity
That's literally just it, you can't tell me otherwise. Watch the discussion of the FE4 remake die extremely fast because it's literally just echoes 2 except with a little more worthless world building. The plot is too old to be any interesting today, with the second part of the game being literally just a bad version final fantasy 6
11 months ago
Anonymous
>And echoes, the one game that got praised for having a good story, flopped hard compared to fates. How did this happen?
Because echoes is a literal garbage fire in pretty much all respects and the game it was based on was never good in the first place
11 months ago
Anonymous
"Why isn't Rudolph attacking" is one of the best moments in FE and objectively better than any fricking 3HRT moment you piece of shit >b-b-bbut i clapped when byleth fused with the goddess and became super powerful like in one of my shonen manga!
11 months ago
Anonymous
I hate 3H even more than echoes so that doesn't really mean much to me
11 months ago
Anonymous
3H had already outsold Fates before the Smash announcement so that's a cope.
The only people defending Fates are the people who have been defending Fates since 2015. It is still used as the measuring stick for how bad FE can get.
Echoes is not a story heavy game. I'm not sure why you keep repeating this as if it's true. Valentia as a story and setting is extremely simple as basic. It's just told in a very flowery way. I enjoyed SoV but in no way is it a complex or well-written story by FE standards.
More importantly though you're speaking out of complete ignorance. Shadows of Valentia was a remake of an ancient Japan-only game released in 2017. 2017 was a period of extremely sharp declines in 3DS game sales which resulting in lots of projects getting shelved. It also potentially killed the Mario and Luigi RPG series. This was due to the rising prevalence of the Switch, the 3DS was rapidly becoming a dead system. There are lots of reasons SoV did poorly: the story isn't one of them.
11 months ago
Anonymous
All switch games were outselling their 3DS counterparts HARD no matter how shit they were. Look zelda, metroid, pokeshit, kirby, animal crossing, mario, SMT5, etc etc, everything was outselling the previous games hard.
3H barely outsold fates after 1 year DESPITE the switch bonus. The sales only got crazy after the smash announcement
>Shadows of Valentia was a remake of an ancient Japan-only game released in 2017
Then why is everyone excited for the FE4 remake, a remake of an ancient Japan-only game to be released in 2024?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>3H barely outsold fates after 1 year DESPITE the switch bonus. The sales only got crazy after the smash announcement
Anon 3H was selling faster than Fates since day one. There are literally Nintendo reports from the first quarter where they talk about how copies were selling faster than anything that had come before. It took three years for Fates to sell 1.6 million copies. 3H did that in less than three months. 3H passed Fates's lifetime sales figure across six years in less than 2 years.
You genuinely don't know what the frick you're talking about.
>Then why is everyone excited for the FE4 remake, a remake of an ancient Japan-only game to be released in 2024?
Because FE4 is the most popular FE in Japan and the Switch isn't a dead system yet, as shown by TOTK?
11 months ago
Anonymous
If gameplay was the main priority advance wars should be the franchise getting new games not fire emblem, also do engagegays forget the game has hours worth of cutscenes that go on for so long that the switch is about to go into sleep mode multiple times
Because 3H fans are mostly autistic waifugays. It's not like they're actually talking about the gameplay in 95%+ of these threads. Engage threads were mostly gameplay discussion and now that everyone's already beaten it once or twice there's not much else to discuss.
It did get a boost.
3H sold 3 million at launch, and sold another 1 million after Byleth got announced and added to Smash.
Engage has sold less than 2 million, which is less than Awakening sold in its entire lifespan.
All skills that activate by a percentage chance are garbage. Why even have them in games like this, you can't plan around them. You have to assume your attack won't trigger Sol or Luna or whatever and play accordingly.
Just gotta roll the dice sometimes
I've definitely been saved by stupidly low chance skills in the past. Hell, I won the last battle because an enemy unit missed a 90+ percent chance to hit kek.
And that's why Engage is a good game. They locked the shitty RNG proc skills behind the unique lord classes. The common blood shitters don't have to deal with that shit. Alcryst will be begging to get a single Luna proc to deal more than 0 damage while Etie can just go unga bunga for massive bow damage
FE4's proc skills gave me permanent PTSD. Those fricking generals can go FRICK themselves
alcrits is one of the only lords that can activate his proc skill consistently. one of the top tier lyn ring users. with lunar brace and a brave bow his middling str doesn't matter and he will shred generals late game. and he can cheese out some annoying sage kills with a forged silver bow astra storm.
>hire better artists that don’t look like they draw for light novels, vtubers, and isekai fotm garbage >poach talented writers to do more for FE’s story telling and continue to experiment with how the game’s story is told — 3H and Fates had interesting ideas, but were not pushed far enough >cut down on the mandatory dicking around that the recent games want players to do in between battles — or overhaul the experience to be more like you’re moving an actual army across the land to do battle >take the concept of each unit commanding platoons of soldiers that 3H had and expand on it — maybe even making the battlefields as large as FE4 and focusing more terrain, unit types, and numbers and less on leveling up individual units and min-maxing stats; basically, make it a cross between FE and Advance Wars >cut down on the waifu shit >no more player characters
There. I may not have fixed it, but I made it more interesting.
>They need to add more based shit like political backstabbing
They had this but the plot was defeat the high level threat not beat the low level threat
Doing both things will either cause the game to be a cult classic which brings no money (Thracia 776) or turn your fanbase into trannies (fallout new vegas)
Meanwhile doing only one of those things is cheaper
I, for one, hope that the next fire emblem games straight up delete the story. It brings nothing to the game and it's the only thing that AW does right
>why do the fe devs always miss the mark?
Because the ideal gameplay of FE mostly revolves around going from interesting map to interesting map doing objectives with your talking chess pieces. But there's 2 problems that you run into when you attempt to wrap a story around this. First is that you need to find an excuse of why an army of dudes would bounce from one location to the next finding where the plot is happening consistently in a way that's believable and doesn't burn up too many resources. Everyone picked on 3H for needing the whole army to return to the monastery every chapter but there's good reason. It's dumb when you've just captured a critical foothold and then everyone says "okay let's go home." In FE8 Ephraim liberates his home and Seth tells him that the people aren't necessarily happy for his ascension but rather that Orsen has finally fricked off. Pretty good but rather than reinforcing his lands he just leaves. Because stability isn't why people play these games.
Which leads to the next problem: too many characters. Stories need to have good characters who can carry them and FE has 2 issues here. Firstly that there's way too many characters per game which makes it very difficult for them to get their various moments in games that don't reduce them to disposable chess pieces. Which leads to the next problem: any of these dudes can die. With the exception of the Lords, each story has to account for characters either being alive or dead in any number of combinations. Which means they can't have plot critical functions because if they're dead then your story hits a dead end. So instead they become really chatty NPCs with nothing to say like in Engage or totally irrelevant chess pieces like in any of Marth's games.
3H Definitive Edition >Improved gameplay >New maps to diversify the routes >Improvements to existing maps >Streamlined Monastery for NG+ >Playable Jeralt, Rhea, and Sothis as NG+ bonuses >Improved resolution and framerate >Unlock the Three Hopes outfits >Extra paralogue to unlock Shez
Maybe by a ritual Sothis and Byleth can separate by allowing Byleth heart to beat on its own and Sothis' stone be placed in an homunculus like Sitri. Or by some choices when Byleth an Sothis fuse together it's Sothis who gets to be the dominant psyche, of course, this could be made possible only in the Silver Snow route.
that would be a good start, but what about the definitely definitive edition? >each route has their own chapter goals
instead of being 95% copy pasted shit >each character has its own paralogue now >ashen wolves are warped into the story logically >better writing >improve on the gambit mechanic >improved magic >rebalanced classes
I guess you could say that the last three are the 'improved gameplay', but felt it had to be said
They could unironically sell millions if they did a new version of 3H with a golden route
>moron still doesn't understand that "golden route" aka shit in a box is what kills any sort of discussion
either make 3H2 or go back to kaga emblem or gba emblem. engage was a moronic half measure that pleased nobody and the story was trash. also get rid of the censorship, fire emblem should be an M rated series.
>GBA emblem >good
FE7 is absolute dogshit and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
>muh Lyn fanfic shitting on FE6 >muh stupid ass plot >muh shitty characters like LALALALALALALALA tard >muh forced tutorial on a first playthrough >muh stupid gaiden chapters requirements >muh javelin/handaxe emblem because woops we forgot how to make a game so let's just spam shit tier enemies >muh overpowered pre promotes >muh being fricking forced to deploy lords because frick your team variety when replaying >muh Gotoh capable of solo'ing the final chapter unless you get unlucky with the final boss stat gacha >muh completely butchered localization, surpassing both fates and engage shit localizations because at least those games didn't completely frick up major game mechanics
We get it, it was your first FE, but that doesn't make it any better. Except it wasn't even your first FE game you fricktard 3H baby. Little homosexual didn't even mention the Tellius games in his post. Fricking homosexual tourist trying to fit in with the SNES and GBA gays
I've noticed a lot of newbies will just immediately say the GBA games are their favorite because they think it makes them look like a veteran. What's funny is that sacred stones is probably closer to Awakening than it is to something like FE6, so it doesn't even really make sense to like all of the GBA games in most cases.
3Hgays clearly didn't play or praise the game for the actual strategy aspect and only for the characters and writing, which 3 Copes does nearly exactly the same thing. The comparison with Botw is fundamentaly different as the open world and sandbox aspects are completely gone in the musou, and that's what people enjoyed.
3H story is engaging enough that people tolerated the barebones gameplay and the bloated yet optional Monastery shit.
Engage's story, character design and overall artistic direction is so bad that it distract from what probably is on the better side of gameplay in Fire Emblem.
>3H story is engaging enough that people tolerated the barebones gameplay
ehhhh, I REALLY struggled to complete my only playthrough of 3H (blue lions). I wasn't really interested in the story at all after the time skip and the map quality was so abysmal I really considered dropping it altogether.
Fair enough, at least the premise of the story got you far enough from you stopped by the inherent flaws of the game. The problem with Engage is that if you dislike the art direction or aesthetics, and it's a very hit or miss thing, it's very difficult to play any of it at all.
>3H story is engaging enough that people tolerated the barebones gameplay and the bloated yet optional Monastery shit.
And like I said, 3 Copes does nearly the same shit without the rehashed and NONE of those helped it from selling even less than Engayge.
3Hgays clearly didn't play or praise the game for the actual strategy aspect and only for the characters and writing, which 3 Copes does nearly exactly the same thing. The comparison with Botw is fundamentaly different as the open world and sandbox aspects are completely gone in the musou, and that's what people enjoyed.
hopes is a spin-off musou you dumb c**t. it's not part of the mainline fire emblem series.
11 months ago
Anonymous
How does that fricking matter if 3Hgays don't play it for the strategic gameplay? How are you this dense?
11 months ago
Anonymous
because that's not true, it's just a delusional cope you tell yourself. changing the genre of the game will change who it appeals to.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Bro, you people forget that the first FE Warriors also sold more than 1M by the time Awakening and Fates were swimming at around double. Some, if not a lot, of these people honestly do not give a frick about the genre.
Three Hopes had an extremely high audience retention rate for a musou spin-off. Age of Calamity retained 13% of BOTW'S audience. Three Hopes retained >25% of 3H's.
If they made a new mainline that was just like 3H it would do just as well as 3H just like TOTK is as big as BOTW.
The reason musous never do as well as the entry they're spinning off is because most people don't like musous.
If 3 copes sold a million why wasn't on the million sellers list Nintendo put out? Also, I may have bought but that doesn't mean I liked it. Big regret.
Because the million sellers list doesn't include third party sales from regions where Nintendo wasn't the publisher and they specify this, and in Japan Nintendo are not the publisher of Warriors titles, Koei Tecmo are.
This is why it was listed of Koei Tecmo's million sellers list but not Nintendo's.
Either remove one-man-armies or remove supportive mechanics.
Either allow play to make invincible killing machine that autofights everything and dodges any spell and arrow or force Player into counting actions.
Everything in between doesn't work.
Basically, it's because nobody wants to talk about Engage. It has no substance. So Engagegays have made their sole identity trait "Three Houses makes me mad" which makes them some of the most unbelievably insufferable people to talk to. That's why Engage threads died a month after release. There are schizos who have an emotional investment in it "destroying Three Houses." So now all they do is cry about Three Houses 24/7.
I mean yeah. This thread is an example of somebody baiting that crowd. They've basically been bullied out of every FE community online because of how annoying they are. They all end up congregating in /feg/.
Actually you're correct, as a FE fan I don't even like 3H that much but if I despise something more that Engage is the Engagegays so much that I go out of my way to post Edelgards because I know that it reminds them of the flop that Engage was and how reviled it is even compared to the mess that 3H was and it makes them seethe... And probably dilate.
>actual FE fans
Most of the extreme 3H hates are literal Fatesbabies who have only played Fates, 3H and Engage. To actual oldgays Engage is just a resurrection from the newbie cancer of the 3DS era. It's Awakening 2, which is unsurprising because that's what the devs said their main inspiration was.
But 3H is closer to Awakening than Engage is, and by a lot. Also the "3DS era" is not one game. Conquest btfos a majority of the series while rev and awakening are utter garbage
if by "actual fe fans" you mean nufegays then sure. to me there is no difference between engage and the 3ds era. why would I care if its better than 3h or not?
If that's true then why were FEfans that disliked 3H so few and far between circa 2019-2022 and why is it that not even 6 months after release if there's any conversation of Engage is people throwing shit at it?
>If that's true then why were FEfans that disliked 3H so few and far between circa 2019-2022
They weren't and still aren't. The people who actually enjoy FE gameplay realized pretty much instantly that 3H wasn't what they wanted and kind of just forgot about it. The fact that they don't constantly insult the game in 3H waifuhomosexualry threads doesn't mean they like the game or something. They just realize engaging with 3H autists is pointless because they fundamentally care about different things in these games.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Good then there's a camp that enthusiastically discussed the gane and another that didn't bother because they didn't saw it was worthy of attention. All in all good-to-neutral response of the target audience and even got some new additions to said audience. Yet, the reception of Engage is arguably neutral-to -bad among the original audience and the ones FE got after 3H.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>enthusiastically discussed the game
Anon, you're kidding yourself. Unless you're trying to imply cooming to fanart and schizo edelgard ramblings pass as actual game discussion.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Well we had a solid three years of Edelgard-Dimitri banter, waifuhomosexualry of all posible candidates, discussing lore, characters backstory and theories of relationship between characters and historical figures/events in Fodlan, le contrarian Claudeposter, that Bernie!Bernie!Bernie! Dude and eating with Ingrid, people posting broken builds, strategies, obscure relics and paralogues ghat were hard to find, TWSITD, Seteth and Church-Bad!/Dragon-Mummy shitposts... I could go on, but my point is many people found entertainment engaging in this particular game, it may very well not be to your particular liking but it was there...
Probably because homosexuals like you can't shut the frick up about it. Engage would've faded to the background with people here and there actually talking about on occasion.
- Make more Tellius games because it has the most comfy world.
- Get rid of the self insert time traveling and no personality "strategist" MC character types
- Get rid of the shit where any character can reclass into any role, ruining their character stories, personalities, and player immersion
- Remove the ability to revisit maps to grind more exp
- Bring back tier three classes
- Remove casual mode
- Remove easy/normal mode
- We can keep the turn rewind feature though
- Remove the 3d base and keep all the shit you do at the base in the damn map menu between chapters like it was because once upon a time this was a strategy game about going to war and not playing tea party at a vacation resort
engage was good. I wish you dudes would get past the designs and give it a chance. Its actually a really good game. Also for the love of god, don't play with the english dub. The japanese voice actors put on an amazing performance >inb4 but you can't understand japanese
emotion transcends language barrier.
I did though. I played hard and maddening and I still didn’t like it. I don’t hate the characters I hate the rings, they break the gameplay even on maddening plus some skills are really broken like Corrins fire skill and the team up skill heroes have
How come Engagegays are trying to push this “FE fans never cared about story” when before the 3DS era the most popular game was Fe4 and the story was what people loved and not the gameplay.
Yes, I totally remember people talking about FE4 all the fricking time before 3H came out. They definitely talked about FE4 in depth and not just some random BBQ shitposts. People certainly didn't discuss FE5-10 all the fricking time
It's called "coping" they emotionally invested in a failed product and refuse to see that they were wrong. Maybe some were disgruntled FE fans that didn't like the direction the franchise took in the 3DS era and saw the investment of plot-over-gameplay peaked in 3H an though to put all their argumentative eggs in Engage... But certainly they're wrong if that's the case.
>It's called "coping" they emotionally invested in a failed product and refuse to see that they were wrong. Maybe some were disgruntled FE fans that didn't like the direction the franchise took in the 3DS era and saw the investment of plot-over-gameplay peaked in 3H an though to put all their argumentative eggs in Engage... But certainly they're wrong if that's the case.
This pretty much. Except rabid Engage haters aren't disgruntled FE fans from the pre-Awakening era, they're disgruntled FE fans from the Awakening era itself. Engage does all the cringe shit Fateswakening did. The oldgays that hated Fateswakening didn't suddenly magically start liking Fateswakening style FE games with Engage. It's the Fateswakening diehards that were happy for it to return. Most oldgays don't give a shit anymore and just play ROM hacks.
3H >Passable gameplay >Good characters >Good story >Good lore >Good OST >Appropriate artstyle for FE >Bad graphics
Engage >Above average gameplay >Annoying characters >Boring story >Non-existent lore >Bland OST with a few meme tracks thrown in like the Solm themes or the Four Hounds theme >Artstyle looks nothing like an FE game, remove Marth from the cover and it wouldn't be recognisable as one >Much better graphics quality than 3H. The Emblems look great in Engage because they benefit from improved graphics but aren't dragged down by Engage's artstyle/character designs.
It is not surprising to see why one did better than the other. Being passable in a wide variety of areas simply gives you more appeal as a game then doing one thing really well but utterly failing by every other standard somebody might hold a Fire Emblem game to.
This is not "GAMEPLAY DOESN'T MATTER", it's that people are wiling to overlook the gameplay not being the best in the series if as compensation the game excels in other areas at an extent that has not been seen since the Tellius games, maybe the Jugdral ones even.
I really did like the whole lore/world Three Houses has set up. It's so much possible stuff to be explored and seen, even beyond Fodlan with the other countries.
I monkey paw'd Hopes into existence because of Age of Calamity (I have posts hoping for it since AoC was first revealed), but didn't quite get the golden ending or expansion of lore I wanted. Instead it was just a lite version of Houses with a cliffhanger ending, as to not "overshadow" the former game, according to the devs
Musou style fits Fire Emblem very well, so I liked it. But IDK, what if I could monkey paw Monolith Soft making an Action RPG Fodlan Fire Emblem with their world/zone design capabilities?
If they make another FE musou in the Switch's lifespan it will be for Engage. Which is obviously a disaster waiting to happen because they'll be substituting the only slightly redeeming factor of Engage for fricking musou gameplay.
Not that anon but it feels like there shouldn't be this terrible divide between the fan base. All the games are pretty good and some of them do some things better than others. The gameplay of Tellius is pretty meh but I like its characters a lot and its world a lot. Fates and Awakening turn me off with the eugenics and some of the pair up / dual guard mechanics but I think they both have things that make them fun to play and worthy entries. 3H got me really attached to the people at the monastery even if I hated doing the monastery chores. Engage has maybe the worst story ever but it's still fun to play and setting up an ideal turn in it feels really good once you're proficient in its mechanics. Weirdly I have nothing to say about the GBA games despite starting with 7. I always thought Sacred Stones was a bit easy and short and I didn't really like its characters, but a recent replay has given me a small appreciation for some of the oppressive maps like the fog of war ship and Riev's assault in the dark near the end of the game. FE7 is perfectly medium.
Rather than hating what we have, I feel like we should be wishing for more.
But why should they be? It's a fun game. Almost all of the Fire Emblem games are fun. The optics or genre deviation of the game shouldn't matter when measured against its quality.
3H is nothing like Persona. Dumbasses think that any game with a school setting is automatically Persona
11 months ago
Anonymous
THE CHARACTERS ! THEY TALK TO EACH OTHER ! JUST LIKE IN PERSONA !
11 months ago
Anonymous
Engagie dishonesty
11 months ago
Anonymous
And the calendar mechanic
And people praising the social shit
And the first ever mute fire emblem protagonist lord
And having to endure god awful dungeons/maps after each month
11 months ago
Anonymous
>And having to endure god awful dungeons/maps after each month
Having to play maps on a Fire Emblem game, shocking.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah I wanted to keep dating Marianne not kill some fricking bandits
Same persona vibes, imagine wanting to go to fricking tartarus for the 10th fricking time instead of spending some time with Mitsuru
11 months ago
Anonymous
They suck ass and it's not my ass they're sucking.
You're right, it shouldn't but I think is mostly coming from the "fans" and no the product itself. In a normal non-internet-driven-discussion world FE3H would be as critically acclaimed as it is and FEE would stand on it own merits and maybe be a cult classic with a niche and devoted fandom; but these monkeys live on extremes: if you don't like FEE you don't like Fire Emblem! If you like 3H better you like datesims and Persona! The gameplay is all that matters in a medieval fantasy political drama driven franchise!... And on, and on...
>lucina's made her reddit filled fanbase seethe
I don’t know any specific examples but I can imagine the response, normalgays really are the worst thing ever huh?
If you could stomach 3H's god awful musou engine artstyle, then you could very well also stomach Engage "god awful" artstyle
>actually i just hate the tooth paste hair 🙂
Based, I too refuse to play good games that have Black person protagonists in it.
It actually sold better than 3 houses in its first week and then word of mouth about the game spread and sales dried up almost instantly.
Weebs and /misc/-gays skipped on it because “muh censorship”, Lefties skipped on it because “It wasn’t censored enough/muh pedo-bait”, and normies skipped out on it because the story and dialogue was just painfully cringe.
Me personally, I didn’t buy it because I fricking refuse to buy another Fire Emblem game with a god awful hub world. Having non-combat gameplay functions separated by physical fricking distance is so god damn awful.
>Me personally, I didn’t buy it because I fricking refuse to buy another Fire Emblem game with a god awful hub world. Having non-combat gameplay functions separated by physical fricking distance is so god damn awful.
Good thing you can completely skip all that shit. Some guy is currently doing an ironman run without the hub world and it's a really fun way to play the game. Just pure strategy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IeadfNEZp4
You can easily do the same on a hard mode playthrough during your first time. The only thing that you really shouldn't skip is the forge mechanic, but you can treat it exactly like the FE9/10 forge since it's just one NPC that you have to talk to right next to the spot you spawn in.
It's nowhere near as bad as 3H where the game straight up locks promotion seals behind shitty monastery quests and budding talents behind instructions which require you eat meals with your students to raise motivation.
graphics and artstyle are not the same thing
you could have a berserk anime with HD animation but if the characters are redesigned to look like pretty cure characters nobody is going to watch it
11 months ago
Anonymous
The artstyle and characters looks good though?
Battle animations are also the absolute best of the franchise, with characters dodging arrows by cutting them in half
Get better arguments please
The game is fricking free on PC for fricks sake, go play it instead of making up bullshit
11 months ago
Anonymous
>The artstyle and characters looks good though?
11 months ago
Anonymous
As opposed to the game that every homosexuals keep comparing to? Yes
11 months ago
Anonymous
>implying engage doesn't also have rampant sameface on top of not looking like an FE game >implying they didn't literally admit in an interview that pikazo feels extremely uncomfortable drawing anything that isn't a generic moeblob
11 months ago
Anonymous
I remember not believing the leaks because all the female characters looked identical + toothpaste-chan
11 months ago
Anonymous
An FE leak with sameface is more likely to be real than not. Sameface has plagued FE since FE1. Saying an FE game has sameface is a brainlet criticism for a series that literally had multiple entries where every character was an edit of another character.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Ah yes, the classic WAAAAH HATE ANIME argument
11 months ago
Anonymous
literally the only unanimous criticism of engage outside of the story is that the character design and artstyle look fricking awful and wouldn't be recognisable as an FE game if they didn't plaster marth all over it
11 months ago
Anonymous
Even in this very charitable image of that god awful looking game it doesn't look good.
literally the only unanimous criticism of engage outside of the story is that the character design and artstyle look fricking awful and wouldn't be recognisable as an FE game if they didn't plaster marth all over it
The palette with those saturations/contrasts are a crime on the eyes that doesn't get reported enough.
It actually sold better than 3 houses in its first week and then word of mouth about the game spread and sales dried up almost instantly.
Weebs and /misc/-gays skipped on it because “muh censorship”, Lefties skipped on it because “It wasn’t censored enough/muh pedo-bait”, and normies skipped out on it because the story and dialogue was just painfully cringe.
Me personally, I didn’t buy it because I fricking refuse to buy another Fire Emblem game with a god awful hub world. Having non-combat gameplay functions separated by physical fricking distance is so god damn awful.
>and normies skipped out on it because the story and dialogue was just painfully cringe.
The gameplay is also too confusing and awkwardly balanced compared to other FEH titles.
The game is basically designed for autists and the game is too big to try and solely appeal to them
No it's word of mouth from other people hating it. Engage had the biggest first week of any FE title. Then it immediately imploded because the main reaction from people who bought it was "damn this shit sucks lmao."
>that monster like Fate we're finally behind >Everyone mainly remembers the Conquest characters >No one remembers the Birthright characters except the Samurai lord and the red haired tomboy
Why was this?
>people remember characters from the route that's more fun to play >final boss of the route was ranked as the most popular hoshidan male due to being the first archer final boss
Sakura does nothing in all of Fates. She's not a brother so she doesn't get story relevance through a royal weapon. Her class is bad and her stats aren't as good as Elise. Hinoka is in a similar situation but she at least gets her own map in Conquest, but compared to Camilla she isn't as good of a unit and for coomers her breasts aren't as big.
Funny how this poll right after Fates came out is so different from the ones even a year later. Camilla and Elise are the top dogs, Oboro dropped and Hinoka fell off the face of the earth.
The Hoshidans are, at best, boring. But most are psychotic, racist pathological liars.
Meanwhile, the Nohrians were basically Awakening 2; a bunch of friendly anime characters who all help eachother out (except Peri).
Reminder that Ryoma knows Corrin is neither Nohrian or Hoshidan the entire time in every route, and still tries to blackmail Corrin into returning to Hoshido with him by forcing Elise to die of an illness for no fricking reason.
Alear's design genuinely turned off more people than IS will ever know. Even if Fates was written like shit too at least Corrin didn't have the toothpaste shit going on. They also focused on the rings in the trailers which no one really cared about.
>Even if Fates was written like shit too
I'll take Engage's main plot over anything in Fates any day of the week. Even if it was cliche it wasn't as painfully moronic. I genuinely had to stop playing Fates at one point because I was so angry at the writing.
I have played pretty much every Fire Emblem game except for nes garbage and I dropped Engage around chapter 4 because of the toothpaste hair just being too much. Like I can look at the terrible FE4 portraits and love the game, but toothpaste blue and red hair on the main character is just too much
Also everyone calling you "The Divine Dragon" and fawning over you is so cringe
There's no saving this series because nobody bought it before anime tropes, basic b***h gameplay and waifushit was introduced so now you'll have to deal with that shitting up your game for the rest of time.
the entire engage vs 3h drama is hilarious because engage gays are just 3dsbabies who think they're oldgays now
if you started with the 3ds era you are physically incapable of being elitist. you're that embarrassing.
Awakening
Awakening II (Fates)
Awakening III (Engage)
Also known as THE SLOP SAGA is at an end, JVGRDAL will return FE to form. Awakeningtrannies are really now pretending Awakening was a good game, even though it was reviled by fans and only liked by nuFE gays / secondaries who started with it. I spit on them.
censored violence, they will tone down arvis bbq
any sexist shit will be removed (as usual), hell they might tone down the Loptr Sect to not anger israelitetendo's ((banks)), they will censor rapist Ziguldo
Did the design really causes sales to drop after the first week? That’s the first I heard of a character causing a sales drop. Has that ever happened before?
If you're talking about Engage, yes people didn't buy the game because of how it looked.
Similar stuff happened with Xenoblade 2, but XB2 had years of "Guys the story is actually great and the combat is fun!" behind it.
Engage won't have that. People already ignore Conquest, and that game had a better artstyle. Nobody REALLY cares about gameplay in FE. The only ones who do already bought it.
No. The fact the first week sales were good showed people were willing to overlook the designs. Word of mouth killed it. And most of the word of mouth was "characters, story and world are shit."
"Word of mouth" doesn't work like that, anon.
WoM would be what gets more people to buy it. But there was no word of mouth, because nobody liked it.
It's like a "hot and cold aren't opposites, cold is just the absence of heat" kind of thing.
>There’s no such thing as bad word of mouth >what is No Man’s Sky and CP2077 on release
Are you moronic?
Engage is only unique because most of the bad word of mouth is “The game story and characters are cringe inducing” as opposed to “The game is a buggy unplayable mess”.
Ah yes.
No Man's Sky and CP2077.
Those games that were commercial flops.
Those games that didn't sell, because everyone never stopped talking about them. Word of mouth still gets people to buy games. Engage just didn't have ANY word of mouth at all.
>There’s no such thing as bad word of mouth >what is No Man’s Sky and CP2077 on release
Are you moronic?
Engage is only unique because most of the bad word of mouth is “The game story and characters are cringe inducing” as opposed to “The game is a buggy unplayable mess”.
Engage had massive preorders compared to 3H, but also terrible word of mouth. I usually don't watch YouTube content of FE, but I do watch one player (Mangs) and he said today Engage viewership has basically plummeted to the point where old games, like FE7, do better. There was a buzz in the air around 3H for months. I think Engage is way too easy on Hard (which is what most people will pick, as Madenning / Lunatic are usually the super hard options of FE and just regular Hard with Engage) and there's not a lot of customisability, even with class changing. I don't know if it will have the sales (because Engage has tanked FE's reputation) but I expect if it was an FE4 remake it would have lingered in the zeitgeist a while longer because not only does it have an actual plot but it also has eugenics. 3H didn't have eugenics but it had factions instead which also drags out discussion.
If you're talking about Engage, yes people didn't buy the game because of how it looked.
Similar stuff happened with Xenoblade 2, but XB2 had years of "Guys the story is actually great and the combat is fun!" behind it.
Engage won't have that. People already ignore Conquest, and that game had a better artstyle. Nobody REALLY cares about gameplay in FE. The only ones who do already bought it.
The designs in Engage ranged from universally liked (Alfred, Celine, Vander, Anna) to extremally divisive (Yunaka, Hortensia, Timerra, Panette) to universally disliked (Alear). The biggest issue is that the universally disliked one is the MC.
If you want an example of two tone hair that turned out okay look at Veyle. If they did that with Alear too it would have been received much better.
Veyle's two tone hair just blends into gray/silver unless you look too hard which is how it should be. No amount of squinting will make toothpaste blend though.
>universally liked (Alfred, Celine, Vander, Anna)
what the actual frick are you talking about
celine is one of the textbook examples people use for engage being vtuber clown shit
I groaned when they included Awakening characters in Fates but I’d be more than willing to overlook them doing the same for Celine and a few other actually good characters in the next FE game.
>universally liked (Alfred, Celine, Vander, Anna)
Remove Celine and put Diamant
Celine could be in any FE game and no one would bat an eye. The butterfly crown is a bit much but whatever, it blends better than the other clown vtuber shit.
>Celine could be in any FE game and no one would bat an eye.
That is bullshit and you either don't actually believe this or do and it's because you've only played Engage.
Other "noble princess" characters are people like Lachesis, Clarine and Celica and they look nowhere near as moronic as Celine does.
I'd remove Alfred from universally liked because he isn't, he looks like a zesty Dimitri. Celine is the embodiment of extremely divisive. Hortensia is near universally disliked. Timerra IS universally disliked. She's a main character and did so poorly in the polls for the game she didn't rank on them. Citrinne and Lapis are better described as "universally liked" than half of the clowns you listed.
I hate vander because when the leaks happened his face wasn't really finished and he looked like a 20 something wearing a fake old man beard and I still cannot unsee it whenever I look at him
This was just making the most of engine limitation. To be honest, these characters didn't even need faces they were minor bosses who appeared alongside other, major bosses. I think FE4 still has 30 unique portraits just for bosses, for reference FE Engage has 20 bosses, 1 of whom is literally your character and 5 of whom who are constantly reused.
There are other examples though that people don't notice. Ares is just Eldigan's portrait flipped and recoloured. Seliph is an edit of Deirdre. Larcei is an edit of Ayra. If you look through FE4 most of the playable characters are edits of another character.
Yeah, it's based on Sigurd's part of the Völsung Cycle, just with some role reversal. The mythological Sigurd actually loses his memory and his lover gets cucked by the Queen of Burgundy (who then has to marry her brother) IIRC.
>Why does everyone hate Engage so much? I thought it was mediocre but people are acting like this is worse than Fates Revelation
Because Revelation was being compared to Birthright and Conquest which people had mixed feelings about. Engage gets compared to the most popular game in the franchise. People had higher expectations for Engage than Revelation. By the time Rev came out we already knew Fates was bad.
the difference between oldFE and nuFE is that in oldFE you'd have one gag character who is a weirdo and people would treat them like a weirdo
in nuFE everybody is a quirky weirdo which fundamentally changes the tone of the game
>oldFE you'd have one gag character who is a weirdo and people would treat them like a weirdo
in oldFE you have either >literal who with 3 lines total >Quirky comedy relief >piece of drywall >MC who gets 90% of the dialogue
I haven't paid attention to Engage shit in a while, was it confirmed whether Celine still friendzones you in JP? Or was that just localizer troony shit?
It will be Zelda Link to the Past. They wanted to remake it previous (on the 3DS) but were unable (and made the KINO that was Link between Worlds instead). A SNES classic doesn't describe FE4 for Westerners.
It will be Zelda Link to the Past. They wanted to remake it previous (on the 3DS) but were unable (and made the KINO that was Link between Worlds instead). A SNES classic doesn't describe FE4 for Westerners.
Either Zelda or Super Metroid as an apology for prime 4
Genuinely the small cast of Lena, Rickard, Nabarl and Castor in BS Saga completely and utterly mog all of nuFE in terms of writing and even voice acting, despite having relatively little to say compared to modern games. Go and listen to it (unfortunately, you cannot play it as it originally was) if you don't beleive me. The chapters themselves are shit, though. You can play variants in FE12 - no good!
I just can't get over how garbage the designs are, holy shit why is it so bad? celine looks stupid, Timerra even worse, Hortensia is awful as well, but making the main character the worst is shooting yourself in the foot. Alear is basically a vtuber, they all have a horrible, messy design for some reason.
none of that will ever happen, it will be >jugdral gameplay down to a T like with Echoes >engage 3d model art >less comblex story because it will be too bloated and too serious for the average nu-fe fan that only cares about LGBT and lesbian emperors
Echoes was the way it was because Kusakihara was the director (dude was just the Art Director and stole all credit for Kozaki's work, and somehow got promoted to regular Director??), and Gaiden was his favorite FE. So he ported it 1:1, and then hired the artist that he wanted for Awakening before settling for Kozaki.
Unless Genealogy is Kusakihara or Maeda's second-favorite FE, I don't think we'll be getting 1:1 like with Echoes.
Not Finn, he leaves partway through. It would have to be Oifey, he's with you from the very beggining right until the end (except for part of Chapter 5). I think him having facial hair probably hurts him most, you'd need to be able to shave his face for Japs to be attached to him.
>. I think him having facial hair probably hurts him most, you'd need to be able to shave his face for Japs to be attached to him.
mustache enjoyers are truly the most oppressed weebs
I miss 90s anime
If they add an Avatar to FE4 that you can romance characters with and can change their looks, you can have an army that is nearly entirely BLONDE in the next generation (excluding set pairs)
FE4 BREEDING SOWS
EDAIN
AYRA
LACHESIS
SYLVIA
FURY
TAILTIU
BRIGID
That's 7
FE4 BLONDE GUYS (Gen I)
NOISHE
DEW
HOLYN
BEOWULF
FR CLAUDE
(You)???
That's 6
You already get Ares as a blonde for free in Gen II.
Just think about it. Seliph's glorious GOLDEN ARMY.
Sadly I'm afraid they won't add Hair Colour Ineritance (even though Kaga wanted it and was only unable to put it in due to engine limitations).
Engage is frickin great. My gripe with it is that martial master is ass. Why they decided to cap speed so low and have no growths for speed is beyond me. Why they decided to do arts damage as half of str+mag is also beyond me.
>play engage >see the evil red haired Alear
Goddamn why didn’t they just make his hair fully red. Didn’t the concept art for Alear show as him just having red hair?
That applies to like every fandom except maybe Shooters.
The fact remains that Engage only had 1/3rd of the sales of the previous game. That's hardly "the fanbase" because it's not even HALF of the last fanbase.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>The fact remains that Engage only had 1/3rd of the sales of the previous game. That's hardly "the fanbase" because it's not even HALF of the last fanbase.
The previous game only racked up those sales after 4 years anon.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It had 3 million after the first year.
I get that your uncle molested you as a child and you're a fan of Engage because of it, but Engage doesn't have legs. It's doing worse than the 3DS games did a decade ago.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>but Engage doesn't have legs.
That's what you guys said about Fates but its easier to play than 3H and even Engage.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>It had 3 million after the first year.
That game is special because people bought on the merit of being a waifu simulator, not a good game.
11 months ago
Anonymous
this. edelgard carried 3 houses pretty hard. it was my first fire emblem and without edelgard i would have never bought it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Theres no reason to lash out at another anon just because he isn't a Vn aficionado. Some of us like to actually plays the GAME portion of this VIDEO GAME series
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Some of us like to actually plays the GAME portion of this VIDEO GAME series
And it's a very small minority.
Even since the 90s, FE was upheld by its VN shipping stuff, and any time a game was hard, it had no fanbase >nips love FE4 for decades >abandon FE5 >ehhhh on FE6 >FE7 is easier, so the fanbase comes back >9 and 10 lived and died by Ike x Soren shipping >11 and 12 had none, so nobody cared >13 and 14 had shipping, so it had record-breaking sales >15 had no shipping, so nobody cared >16 was full of shipping, with arguably the most complex characters >17 drops all shipping in favor of better gameplay, and dies
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Even since the 90s, FE was upheld by its VN shipping stuff, and any time a game was hard, it had no fanbase >>16 was full of shipping, with arguably the most complex characters
Why are 3Homos like this
11 months ago
Anonymous
Wait, did they release a patch that gave Ilyana a character trait other than "I am hungry?"
Was there a remake of FE6 that gave Lilina a goal in life other than "land on Roy's wiener?"
Hipsters like to deny it but 3H did most thing right. The main problems stem from the route system, with only Blue Lions not being blatantly unfinished or lacking in some way, too much map reuse and bad balancing/character progression. The latter is mostly the fault of it inheriting awakening style character building where it seems to take on a Disgaea style thing where you're just trying to min/max characters into being busted and doing maddening/very hard DLC content (NewFE) rather than it primarily being all about managing finite resources and more limited characters with wildly different growth potential/uses (OldFE).
But at the end of the day, 3H showed that FE could actually have good music, story, character designs, writing etc if it wanted to, which makes Engage being Awakening tier garbage in that regard again even more damning.
People like it because they get to pretend they're in anime high school, not because the gameplay is fun.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Source: The voices in my head
Odd how no one talks about that shit then and instead talk about the characters/main story. In fact, the monastery stuff is widely regarded as one of the worst parts of the game. How do you rationalize that?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>In fact, the monastery stuff is widely regarded as one of the worst parts of the game. How do you rationalize that?
Only on here, everywhere else people loved it because it allowed them to take in the atmosphere.
11 months ago
Anonymous
probably because the average gamer doesn't finish games, it never became a chore for xhem
11 months ago
Anonymous
>In fact, the monastery stuff is widely regarded as one of the worst parts of the game.
Too bad that 3H's success and the insane amount of hate that engage is getting means that monastery cancer is the future of the franchise.
>In fact, the monastery stuff is widely regarded as one of the worst parts of the game. How do you rationalize that?
Only on here, everywhere else people loved it because it allowed them to take in the atmosphere.
Literally fricking how. It's the same fricking area every fricking time.
Edeltard starts a war, everything turns to shit, you're forced to traverse Fodlan to conquer territory AND YET THEY KEEP FRICKING SHOVING THE FRICKING MONASTERY DOWN YOUR FRICKING THROAT
It LITERALLY breaks the fricking atmosphere, why the FRICK do you keep warping back to the fricking hub world? Not even fricking engage is that bad, you're only forced to return to the fricking Somniel in 3 chapters, meanwhile 3H has a literal fricking moving castle that is omni fricking present, except not really, the entire party simply retreats back to the center of the map every fricking battle
Even if all gigahomosexuals want is talk to their shitty waifus, then both 9 and 10 did the exact same fricking shit but better. A fricking camp where there are unique conversations with allies. No time waste at all
Imagine if the FE4 remake turns the already shitty castles into Monastery 2.0, shit would fricking suck when all they have to do is give players the option to talk inside the castle menu instead of doing it outside
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Literally fricking how. It's the same fricking area every fricking time.
The VN audience is willing to walk through a hundred miles of bad gameplay for the sake of waifu moments.
Eugenics and shipping are the heart and soul of FE. GBAbabies will screech when you point out it predates their games, which are three of the least interesting, least innovative games in the series. The GBA era is peak stagnation.
Notice how FE only became mainstream again in Japan when they ignored the GBA entries and went back to grabbing mechanics and stories from the Kaga era.
this
FE4 is the most popular game there
Awakening resurrected the franchise - by taking eugenics from FE4
Three Houses is the best selling game because of its writing - which the devs have gone on record saying they just took from FE4
the further they stray from the jugdral games the more confused about its identity the FE games get and the worse they end up performing
>the further they stray from the jugdral games the more confused about its identity the FE games get and the worse they end up performing
Reminder that Kaga said Jugdral was the outlier and not the route by which FE was supposed to be.
No, he said the gameplay of Genealogy was different and he was unlikely to do maps that big again. To this day he makes games with Thracia's gameplay and Genealogy's story. Jugdral is Fire Emblem. Everything that makes it successful comes from that setting.
>the further they stray from the jugdral games the more confused about its identity the FE games get and the worse they end up performing
So does that mean we should bring back follow-up critical and unlimited range warps
I'd be down with that
Not him, but no.
It sold more in its initial run, but there's a reason FE3 didn't get TWO manga runs.
The in-game shipping upheld Genealogy for decades. Still does.
>Then why does Japan only care about Marth
They don't care about Marth. Otherwise, it wouldn't have taken Marth FIVE YEARS to win a popularity poll that the devs rigged in his favor.
And he still lost to a fricking nameless NPC.
sothis feet in my mouth
Fine
Thank you very much
I'm not even a feet guy but I would suckle those toes.
these
RITE NOW RITE. OW!
More cute feet
save it from what? localization trannies?
I mean, that's a good start
>want romance
>don't care about child characters
>instead of just rewriting it so that Celine is 18 instead of 16 they just make it platonic because I'm weird for finding a petite anime blonde cute
Love it. Dudes import a pedo game and then shame you for buying it.
Go back to formula
BACK TO FORMULA???
But Engage was a "return to form" wasn't it?
Fire Emblem was already "saved" once after Awakening sold so much to persuade the funding of more FE games, given they all follow the Awakening Mold
Enjoy the Zombie Fire Emblem era
Clearly we are heading back to a 3H type of game after the failure of Engage. All I ask for is a good character artist. Both 3H and Engage's character designs are fricking terrible.
MU and playable pairable villager Goldmary cameo in FE4R. Also, stories like Thracia going forward from the remake
By putting down its putrid rotten corpse held together with niponese greed.
Dragon feet.
Catherine or Shamir?
Shammy
Catherine's hotter, but her supports suck.
Or? They’re not a package deal?
Neither you homewrecker
Both.
i like both
Yes.
Why not both?
Is Shamir grabbing her ass?
Pirate poized releases, download mods to turn that shit to gold, Massively reward Good releases, tell your whole group of friend’s and their friend’s friend’s and so on to follow the same game plan or at least buy the good releases, and when shit hits the fan, jump ship entirely and find a alternative or a way to recreate it.
Child units. I like playing eugenics.
Boy have a got a game for you, CK3
God i hope they dont just swing back and make 3 houses 2.0. I'd much prefer something between 3 houses and engage
more sothis feet less homosexuals
What pun am I missing here?
Why did Three Houses attract a ridiculous amount of Twitter users?
It panders to all types.
because it sold millions of copies and the twittertumblr cancer from awakening didn't go anywhere
Mainly the otome art style. It really attracts tumblr/twitter crowd for some reason.
It's not anime but not TOO anime. Look at Engage then look back at 3H and you see the same crowd be grossed out at the colorful style of Engage being "too anime".
nta and I agree with what you’ve but it’s kind of a pity because I think Kurahana’s artstyle is really good and suited both games, though it would have been preferable if the in-game portraits and CGs reflected that better than what we got
It didn't. Awakening brought thousands of tumblr trannies and then those tumblr trannies migrated to Twitter when that site killed itself.
Otome game with srpg wrapping paper
Fire Emblem became a self referential ouroboros. Three Houses was a break from that and was better for it. Engage doubled down.
Giving the option to actually marry Sothis.
I took it anyway.
There were no good girls in Blue lions route.
>There were no good girls in Blue lions route
Absolute dogshit taste, and I love Sothis
>racist
>religiouscuck
>daddy issues girl
There was no option.
It was a fujo route.
>racist
Who?
I need to know my next wifes name.
Ingrid
The racist accusations for Ingrid are really stupid. She'll frick Claude and have children him with her only complaint being that he's lazy. The reasons for Ingrid's hatred of the people of Duscur has to do with the primary plot of Azure Moon
Celine
Dogshit-tier opinion
Holy fricking bad taste Batman
>There were no good girls in Blue lions route.
worst post on Ganker today
Not happening, localizers have their teeth in Fire Emblem and will cut anything they don‘t like
more feet
Bring back child units. Marriage midgame is much better, and it allows complete shipping instead of some pairings being dead ends or impossible.
God no. Eugenics autism is cancer and it makes no sense story wise.
>Give it to me!
>No, no. You should give it to me!
What did they mean by this?
>3h came out 8 years ago
hello, man from the future. Will the world be destroyed in nuclear holocaust soon?
Just make a good game honestly, and Remake FE4.
They already did a good game with engage and 4 is a bad game
I know that you're a FE4 fan excited to play FE4 for the first time but Quan dies chapter 5
Hilarious. Engage is garbage, and all FE has been stale since Awakening. Nice try though poofter.
>stale
Awakening was dogshit but conquest, engage and even 3 trannies weren't stale at all
You're calling those games stale but not the copy pasted GBA games and the copy pasted NDS games?
>Awakening was dogshit
Frick off
>shit map design + everyone's favorite ambush spawns
>god awful unit design, balancing the game around grinding optional skirmishes in a fricking fire emblem game to get child units who aren't shit
>not wanting to deal with the trash child units and grinding results in the game being a Robin solo run
>lunatic+ straight up untested and forces you to do the water trick just to play the game, the devs clearly wanted to sell the shitty P2W grinding DLC but forgot to make it unlock early
>entire game is just nostalgiagay pandering, ranging from shittons of Archanea references, to glowing spots giving you fricking weapons from previous FE lords for no reason, and DLC being filled with recruitable characters from previous games, including the goddamn son of Ike
>characters are 1 not gimmick shit. Kellam's joke is that we cannot le see him. Stahl is Trek 2.0. Tharja is baby's second yandere. Le funny candy thief, etc etc
Thank god that I had a NDS with a flashcard back then. The system's nigh infinite library made me not want to buy a 3DS until ~2015, so I didn't have to cope into pretending that Awakening was good due to the insane early 3DS game drought
Awakening is shit
You cannot refute this
The only good thing that Awakening did was save the franchise and give us conquest, echoes and engage.
>Whole lot of shit opinions
Cool
Consider the following
>Great map design
>Sweet unit design
>Getting to breed ideal child soldiers
>Makes homosexuals that play on lunatic seethe
>lol who the frick buys DLC
>Gay c**ts do, that's who buys DLC
>Another mention on having sweet character designs.
You can't refute these points
Awakening not only gave us a great game with something completely new from the stale series, it also saved the franchise and gave us a few more instalments that I've generally enjoyed.
Enjoy having shit taste bro.
I recommend that you play the sardine game instead since you clearly don't like the fire emblem part of fire emblem
>I like this game
>No you don't, play this piece of shit instead
You clearly want to play a shitty grindan TRPG, so have an actual grindan TRPG
Liking a game because you can grind to give all child units galeforce is literally disgaea's entire gameplay style, it was made for awakening babies
If you want an actual strategy game which you don't since you got filtered by lunatic and possibly played on casual too then awakening is a bad game and FE 1 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 conquest 3H Engage are better games
>txt
Cool
I might start another Awakening campaign and have fun with it.
Feel free to keep posting in the meantime.
This, ladies and gents, is the problem with FE today
>echoes and engage
>good
>since Awakening
>poofter
The only poof here is you Telliusgay
Hire good artists and writers, gameplay has been good
Hire the Triangle Strategy writers and artists
LMAO
?
utter brainlets. The only thing that doesnt make sense in the story is why milo would report the salt deposit to idore if you picked the return home route. Otherwise everything in the game makes perfect sense unlike 3H where the mere existance of edelshart has caused unrepearable damage to video games forever
They should have reached for her hand, it suggests it so in the intro song, duh!
dimitri literally held out his hand to her AND SHE TRIED TO FRICKING STAB HIM
Reach for my hand
I'll fricking shank you
Edeltard only want's Byleth's hand. Which she doesn't deserve.
Edelgard is a woman so I never took her seriously
Kill Edelgard. Behead Edelgard. Roundhouse kick Edelgard into the concrete. Slam dunk Edelgards baby into the trashcan. Crucify Edelgard. Defecate in Edelgards food. Launch Edelgard into the sun. Stir fry Edelgard in a wok. Toss Edelgard into active volcanoes. Urinate into Edelgards gas tank. Judo throw Edelgard into a wood chipper. Twist Edelgards head off. Report Edelgardto the IRS. Karate chop Edelgard in half. Curb stomp Edelgard. Trap Edelgard in quicksand. Crush Edelgard in the trash compactor. Liquefy Edelgard in a vat of acid. Eat Edelgard. Dissect Edelgard. Exterminate Edelgard in the gas chamber. Stomp Edelgards skull with steel toed boots. Cremate Edelgard in the oven. Lobotomize Edelgard. Mandatory abortions for Edelgard. Grind Edelgard in the garbage disposal. Drown Edelgard in fried chicken grease. Vaporize Edelgard with a ray gun. Kick Edelgard down the stairs. Feed Edelgard to alligators. Slice Edelgard with a katana.
Total Edelgard Death
average church/faerghus route schizophrenic:
Take your meds, Dimitri.
He let his rage out, he doesn't need meds. After everything he's back to being the same Dimitri who wanted to protect/save young Edelgard back then. She's the one who's stuck in place and can't move on.
>After everything he's back to being the same Dimitri who wanted to protect/save young Edelgard back then.
And you missed it at least partially. Dimitri's fatal flaw was that his sense of duty was horrifically misplaced. Because was the sole survivor of the Tragedy of Duscur, as a king, it was his duty to achieve vengeance in the name of those who died and then, over the course of 5 years, it mutated into achieving vengeance for everyone who has ever died a wrongful death. But you can't avenge everyone who has died a wrongful death. Especially in a war. Boar Dimitri's goal would never be fulfilled, he'd just be trapped killing Imperials, Bandits, and Thieves forever until someone killed him. You know... like what happened in 3 out of 4 routes. In order for him to live he would have to be convinced to let go of those who were already gone and focus on those who can still be saved. An idea that's very difficult for him not only because of the Tragedy but because of Faerghus tradition as a whole
>Claude: In my search for truth, I read up on the old rituals of the eastern regions of Faerghus. Those who died with regret are thought to end up in an underworld of sorts. Somewhere cold. Somewhere dark. Somewhere...creepy. To escape from their bitter limbo, they did their way up through the earth, trying to find the surface...or the light in other words. And so they creep about endlessly in the cold dirt of the underworld, clinging to their hopeless desire...Creepity creep, Annette. Creepity creep.
Not gonna read all that. He called her El and she threw the dagger back at him. It was obvious what the scene was alluding to.
Genuinely makes no sense for this cutscene to play in Verdant Wind since you barely know the chick.
Should have made each route have different things happen, like Edelgard dies before Dimitri in one route in the background or some shit.
Artists, sure.
Writers can go frick themselves with a 12ft log.
The dog shit story is what made me drop this game.
What's wrong with the writing?
sothis feet on my wiener.
More characters like Anna in engage.
Best version of Anna we’ve ever had and it’s not even close
Never make a monestary/somnium style downtime area again, shit obliterates the pacing
they could have their cake and eat it too if there was an option to turn the hub into menus.
They knew about this and did nothing.
How do we save fire emblem?
Isis doesn't take any constructive criticism.
How can we cure them of their arrogance?
We can't. All you can do is wait and pray against all reason that maybe one day for whatever reason through means we have nothing to do with another good fe emerges.
Until then we get games that are cobbled together with disjointed elements and design desicions, games that can only be partially good in some ways despite themselves.
So i'm gonna play the old games and whenever a new one comes up i'll have a look at it and think about why it's bad and why it's good, knowing that it won't matter at all or have an impact even if i convinced every single fire emblem fan on the face of the earth of my point of view.
Live sudoku of the people responsible for Engage
Sell the series to Alicesoft
>engagegays actually hate FE games
Explains a lot.
Engagechad here
I like FE games. 5 6 conquest engage are my favorites. 4 7 3H are dogshit. I tolerate 8 solely due to the mods that it gave us.
Also, FEgays hating FE is normal you fricking tourist
>reddit
Can't wait for the next FE to be revealed and drop the vtumor shit so you trannies will latch on to the next fotm.
>Engagechad
>Reddit
>google search with top results being reddit and gamefaqs
>tee-hee le plebbit 🙂
Guess 3HRT is a reddit game since this search brought reddit first instead of serenes forest
>Engagegay
>N-no, you're the redditard
Many such cases
I'm a googlechad because yandex is shit now
You cannot refute the first "3H gud" search giving you a reddit link
Now frick off Redditgard
Dear Engay, it was you who brought Reddit up, stop. I know it's hard for you to stop embarrasing yourself, but at least try
Thi was meant for
back to https://www.reddit.com/r/Edelgard/ you homosexual
The leddit strike is over, you can go back to the Edeltard circlejerk alongside your friends. You no longer have to hold back your tears whenever a Gankerirgin types Black person
Keep projecting, tr00nado.
>Engagechad
LukeGAWD fricked her
Awakening was based
Fates was based
Echoes was based
3H was trash
Engage was mid
I thought Engage was fine mechanically, even if I was skipping every cutscene and support from about halfway in. It's just the writing/character design that's an issue. I couldn't go back to endless monastery fricking around again even if the story was better, though. I'm not totally against hubs but ideally they'd be more like Three Hopes, where you do the hub stuff once every 5-6 fights, than Three Houses or Engage. The Somniel is a slight improvement over the monastery but there's still a lot of busy work to it.
I've finished all 3 games and I disagree
Monastery is undefendable, but you're clearly wrong about 3 copes camp and Somniel
>3 copes
>have to constantly return to the main hub because the fricking inventory guy is full
>obligatory cooking section because otherwise, awakening is straight up impossible to fill up and you're not allowed to use combat arts/magic because of the insanely low weapon durability
>FRICKING TRAINING CAMP have to CONSTANTLY promote and reclass everyone to unlock more skills
>have to return to the fricking camp at the end of the chapter because you unlocked more time to do more activities
>shitty chores to increase motivation if you want your units to do non shit damage in a chapter
Meanwhile Somniel
>cook (no ingredients needed)
>collect ingots from dogs
>do arena fights with emblems if you need to buy a new skill or get weapon proficiency to get a new class
>forge this should have been in the pause menu but IS has brain damage
>donations + roll for rings, which is done extremely rarely
That's it. All of the other activities have extremely low impact in the game.
>That's it. All of the other activities have extremely low impact in the game.
Counterpoint: I have autism and must do every single available activity, and that takes longer in the Somniel than the Three Hopes camp.
Thank god I don't have autism. One 3 copes expedtion was enough for me to figure out that I would never be touching that feature ever again even if my units kept pestering me about it
yeah, it was weird. i feel like there could have been a better way of revealing snippets of worldbuilding and character stories
Let Fire Emblem die
It died when it went 3D
I'm just enjoying waifu simulators with TBS combat in the meantime.
>Leonie
Miserable little jealous c**t. I fell for the trap of expecting her to be your typical tomboy girl
>Ingrid
Used goods
>Marianne
She's actually pretty good and got a great time skip design
>Annette
Also great, especially to cuck Gay Guy Gilbert
>Lysithia
My wife
Annoying brat tier shit at the start but her time skip turns her easily in to best girl
Just wanna mention as well that Raphael is also the best bro you can ask for.
Always recruit him and turn him in to a Hero class.
>TBS combat
>S
Lyn, my wife
Why was engage forgotten so quickly, I remember there being constant 3h threads for years.
Shit
Because it's characters and story that drive long term posting and Engage is devoid of either, even if its gameplay is significantly better.
Tendies didn't have to do a shill campaign for engage unlike 3H because TOTK was just around the corner
Same reason why 3 hopes was forgotten so quick too despite the massive popularity that 3HRT had
>3 hopes was forgotten so quick too despite the massive popularity that 3HRT had
Or musou is a niche genre that most of the people who liked Three Houses weren't interested in.
Three Hopes was like weeks before Xenoblade 3, especially considering the leaks from it (you're welcome for that btw). I barely got one playthrough done for Three Hopes and haven't had time to go back to that.
3Copes is musou not canon and the story is so shitty that calling it fanfic-tier is an insult to fanfics. It killed the conversation of 3Houses for a while and left fertile ground for Engage to grow. But Engage turned to be so awful that people returned to Fodlan again.
How is 3 hopes plot even shit compared to 3H? Both games are the same garbage
Dimitri is the new verdant wind with all of the fricking shitty plot and lore exposition, except that you fight against those who slither in the dark except of Edelgard. They probably did this since they fricking refused to talk about those homosexuals in the original game and this was most likely their last chance. Shame that they didn't do this straight away in the first game, maybe homosexuals would have stop pretending that 3H had good plot no they wouldn't lol
Claude is the new edelgard route. Of course, brainlet 3Hgays only wanted 3H to be DIMITRI GOOD EDELGARD BAD so they go apeshit the moment a different character gets the spotlight, even though his actions fitted his character
>noooo le heckin schemer character is not allowed to scheme and make use of the chaos of warfare to advance his muhracism agenda!! claude is supposed to be le epic scheming character that does not actually scheme
Edelgard is the crimson flower but finished. Yes, it's still boring as frick. Shit games
Want to know why homosexuals stopped playing 3 hopes and jumped back to 3HRT? It's because only 3H lets you groom underage kids
Objectively it killed the mistery and speculation on many elements of the original plot that would best be left to the imagination of represented them in a jarring way (look how the massacred my boy Holtz), introduced things that were not necessary like the whole Veronica simping o the nu-Sothis and while taking character plot to new directions sometimes it didn't felt in line from who they were in 3Houses.
Also, dude, chill with pedoshit; take your meds or something.
So 3H liked their game because it was incomplete garbage. Good to know.
IS take notes, make sure to include 20 different routes and have them all unfinished and copypasted with minor changes, except one so the fanbase can shill it just like how they do with blue lions
>So 3H liked their game because it was incomplete garbage.
No it was well received DESPITE being incomplete.
Because grooming underage students like Lysithea, twitter's favorite activity
kthxbye
Shez is such a fricking tumor on the lore. Completely pointless waste of time.
i just disregard the fact that he's some oc donut steel and pretend he's just some ltierally who merc who was in the right place at the right time. Story only gets better like this. It's not like him being a homunculus even goes anywhere
Honestly, it was prerelease that made me hype with Arval saying to “break the cycle” making me think the story was going to admit there’s a time loop going on.
But it was just a nothing burger in the end. There could’ve been so much cool stuff.
I loved the idea that Arval was an Argarthan-created AI that was implanted to various test subjects which cause various issues. Edelgard is more warmongering without Byleth’s soothing presence, Lysithea can faintly sense it and thinks it’s a ghost, but Shez was a successful integration.
But nope, just one dude that wanted to cheat death and made his soul transferable. Which is forgotten about after you kill Epidermis.
>Edelgard is more warmongering
lmao. she's exactly the same. in fact she's the lord who undergoes the least amount of changes with blyat around (are there fricking any even? she doesn't seem to have an arc), while dimitri is a timebomb waiting to go off, and clint goes full moron
>Honestly, it was prerelease that made me hype with Arval saying to “break the cycle” making me think the story was going to admit there’s a time loop going on.
This.
>DUUUUDE look Byleth is now this silent demon and you need to get revenge and defeat them!
>In game: Nooooooooo let’s not get revenge on Byleth why don’t we be friends!
I always thought Fodlan had no canon ending and at some point later on in life Byleth would always reset reality to try again and have everybody live that time, only to go back too far and end up losing their memories.
>Want to know why homosexuals stopped playing 3 hopes and jumped back to 3HRT?
perhaps it's because homies prefer to go back to a strategy game IN A STRATEGY SERIES?
>3H
>strategy
They could go back to literally half of the fricking franchise, but they instead chose to go back to the game that has stupid monastery VN padding cancer and completely ignored engage.
Ah, so it's just another butthurt Engagie. Figures. Carry on.
Because Engage is shit? These aren't mutually exclusive. You can want a strategy game but still want an interesting story and likeable characters. You must be genuinely autistic if you think caring about the genre means you can only care about the gameplay and nothing else.
>You can want a strategy game but still want an interesting story and likeable characters.
The joke is that Andy does not know what an airport is despite him being a fricking CO! Everyone then clapped and bought the newest advance wars game because who gives a frick about likeable characters and good story in a strategy game? Didn't day of ruin kill the franchise despite having an actual serious plot and characters that weren't walking memes and tutorials?
I FRICKING HATE storygays like you tards. FE3 outsold FE4, the plot game that everyones cums to. PoR and RD sold like shit despite being story focused games, fates is the second best selling game of the franchise despite the absolute masterpiece of shit writing valla, you're now dead anon, echoes flopped HARD because everyone called the gameplay shit
You 3HRTrannies went back to 3H because you hate fire emblem, it's that simple. I mentioned Engage because it was the only other fire emblem game released on the same system, but I guess that makes too much sense.
Well, FE7 is now on the switch too, let's see 3Hgays not play that game too.
You had this entire meltdown and yet none of what you typed actually refutes the fact that most people who play strategy games still want an interesting story and likeable characters.
I can't believe it but you are genuinely doing the online equivalent of a child having a temper tantrum.
>You had this entire meltdown and yet none of what you typed actually refutes the fact that most people who play strategy games still want an interesting story and likeable characters.
But everything I mentioned implies the same?
Everyone celebrated the shitty advance wars rom pack, a game where the story is absolutely fricking worthless and the characters are jokes. Isn't that a strategy game anon? Why didn't people care about that for advance wars anon? Why did people play and discuss fates for years despite that game being a literal shitpost? I thought muh plot was everything?
You 3Hgays will one day play your second FE game. And hell, maybe it will be the next year once Sigurd's game comes out next year and Quan Sigurd dies Arvis son is the villain Deirdre NTR
>Everyone celebrated the shitty advance wars rom pack
They literally didn't, though. Nobody plays Advance Wars. It was extremely niche. I don't know why you're trying to use this as an example against 3H when 3H sold 3.8 million copies and the Advance Wars reboot is unlikely to break 200k. You've just proven the opposite.
>I thought muh plot was everything?
No that was in fact not what I said, I said that people can want SRPG gameplay and still want an interesting story and characters. Which is the majority consensus for Fire Emblem.
Reboot camp still sold well and had extremely positive reception despite being literal $60 roms and having nintendo sabotage the release date
>No that was in fact not what I said, I said that people can want SRPG gameplay and still want an interesting story and characters. Which is the majority consensus for Fire Emblem.
So, before 3H, we could all agree that Fates had exactly the best story and characters. Echoes flopping hard compared to fates is proof of that, fates truly had the best plot and that's why people played it for years
"Still sold well" is a ridiculous argument to make when we're talking about mass appeal. More people want a story and characters with their SRPG. That's why 3H will eventually break 4 million whereas it's doubtful Advance Wars will ever reach 400k. You using Advance Wars as an example undermines your own argument because it IS extremely niche because it is so weak in non-gameplay areas.
Fates came out at a time when most newbies had never experienced anything other than the worst of FE writing. It's not surprising they had low standards at the time.
Engage is proof that if Fates came out in 2023 instead of 2016 it would have received a massive amount of backlash. New fans have higher expectations now whereas before they were willing to consume anything.
But homosexuals are unironically defending fates now when it gets compared to engayge though? And echoes, the one game that got praised for having a good story, flopped hard compared to fates. How did this happen?
Look, 3H was a success because:
- Constant E3, nintendo direct and twitter shilling. Higher than literally any other game of the franchise
- Smash bonus. The hype for the fighter pass was enormous and everyone had their years on the very last DLC slot. Byleth getting in gave 3H a shitload of publicity
That's literally just it, you can't tell me otherwise. Watch the discussion of the FE4 remake die extremely fast because it's literally just echoes 2 except with a little more worthless world building. The plot is too old to be any interesting today, with the second part of the game being literally just a bad version final fantasy 6
>And echoes, the one game that got praised for having a good story, flopped hard compared to fates. How did this happen?
Because echoes is a literal garbage fire in pretty much all respects and the game it was based on was never good in the first place
"Why isn't Rudolph attacking" is one of the best moments in FE and objectively better than any fricking 3HRT moment you piece of shit
>b-b-bbut i clapped when byleth fused with the goddess and became super powerful like in one of my shonen manga!
I hate 3H even more than echoes so that doesn't really mean much to me
3H had already outsold Fates before the Smash announcement so that's a cope.
The only people defending Fates are the people who have been defending Fates since 2015. It is still used as the measuring stick for how bad FE can get.
Echoes is not a story heavy game. I'm not sure why you keep repeating this as if it's true. Valentia as a story and setting is extremely simple as basic. It's just told in a very flowery way. I enjoyed SoV but in no way is it a complex or well-written story by FE standards.
More importantly though you're speaking out of complete ignorance. Shadows of Valentia was a remake of an ancient Japan-only game released in 2017. 2017 was a period of extremely sharp declines in 3DS game sales which resulting in lots of projects getting shelved. It also potentially killed the Mario and Luigi RPG series. This was due to the rising prevalence of the Switch, the 3DS was rapidly becoming a dead system. There are lots of reasons SoV did poorly: the story isn't one of them.
All switch games were outselling their 3DS counterparts HARD no matter how shit they were. Look zelda, metroid, pokeshit, kirby, animal crossing, mario, SMT5, etc etc, everything was outselling the previous games hard.
3H barely outsold fates after 1 year DESPITE the switch bonus. The sales only got crazy after the smash announcement
>Shadows of Valentia was a remake of an ancient Japan-only game released in 2017
Then why is everyone excited for the FE4 remake, a remake of an ancient Japan-only game to be released in 2024?
>3H barely outsold fates after 1 year DESPITE the switch bonus. The sales only got crazy after the smash announcement
Anon 3H was selling faster than Fates since day one. There are literally Nintendo reports from the first quarter where they talk about how copies were selling faster than anything that had come before. It took three years for Fates to sell 1.6 million copies. 3H did that in less than three months. 3H passed Fates's lifetime sales figure across six years in less than 2 years.
You genuinely don't know what the frick you're talking about.
>Then why is everyone excited for the FE4 remake, a remake of an ancient Japan-only game to be released in 2024?
Because FE4 is the most popular FE in Japan and the Switch isn't a dead system yet, as shown by TOTK?
If gameplay was the main priority advance wars should be the franchise getting new games not fire emblem, also do engagegays forget the game has hours worth of cutscenes that go on for so long that the switch is about to go into sleep mode multiple times
Because 3H was good and trannies forgot about engage as soon as their favorite vtuber started playing something else.
Because 3H fans are mostly autistic waifugays. It's not like they're actually talking about the gameplay in 95%+ of these threads. Engage threads were mostly gameplay discussion and now that everyone's already beaten it once or twice there's not much else to discuss.
Because it's shit
It didn't have the smash trash to back it up
To be fair, Awakening and Three Houses both sold the bulk of their copies before being added to a Smash game.
Engage is just a flop, like Ike's games.
but three houses became the best selling game before it was added to smash
Same with Awakening.
It didn't get a boost though
It did get a boost.
3H sold 3 million at launch, and sold another 1 million after Byleth got announced and added to Smash.
Engage has sold less than 2 million, which is less than Awakening sold in its entire lifespan.
Awakening only did 2 million? I thought it was over 3.
Its final official numbers were like 2.14 million, which was also before it was added to Smash.
See
>Engage has sold less than 2 million,
the divine dragon deserves more love. im half way in the game and i love it. rosado = best girl
>rosado = best girl
Uh.
>rosado = best girl
I'm gonna tell him
>rosado = best girl
No but he was pretty cute, probably WOULD tbh
All skills that activate by a percentage chance are garbage. Why even have them in games like this, you can't plan around them. You have to assume your attack won't trigger Sol or Luna or whatever and play accordingly.
Just gotta roll the dice sometimes
I've definitely been saved by stupidly low chance skills in the past. Hell, I won the last battle because an enemy unit missed a 90+ percent chance to hit kek.
And that's why Engage is a good game. They locked the shitty RNG proc skills behind the unique lord classes. The common blood shitters don't have to deal with that shit. Alcryst will be begging to get a single Luna proc to deal more than 0 damage while Etie can just go unga bunga for massive bow damage
FE4's proc skills gave me permanent PTSD. Those fricking generals can go FRICK themselves
alcrits is one of the only lords that can activate his proc skill consistently. one of the top tier lyn ring users. with lunar brace and a brave bow his middling str doesn't matter and he will shred generals late game. and he can cheese out some annoying sage kills with a forged silver bow astra storm.
>hire better artists that don’t look like they draw for light novels, vtubers, and isekai fotm garbage
>poach talented writers to do more for FE’s story telling and continue to experiment with how the game’s story is told — 3H and Fates had interesting ideas, but were not pushed far enough
>cut down on the mandatory dicking around that the recent games want players to do in between battles — or overhaul the experience to be more like you’re moving an actual army across the land to do battle
>take the concept of each unit commanding platoons of soldiers that 3H had and expand on it — maybe even making the battlefields as large as FE4 and focusing more terrain, unit types, and numbers and less on leveling up individual units and min-maxing stats; basically, make it a cross between FE and Advance Wars
>cut down on the waifu shit
>no more player characters
There. I may not have fixed it, but I made it more interesting.
>cut down on the waifu shit
But that's the reason why I play Fire Emblem, I want my personal army of cute e-girls
cancer.
Engage was so fricking gay. They need to add more based shit like political backstabbing and rapists again
>political backstabbing
Ivy
>rapists again
Bunet and Sommie
>They need to add more based shit like political backstabbing
They had this but the plot was defeat the high level threat not beat the low level threat
Replaying Awakening and I fricking hate dual strikes. Jesus christ I'm trying to set up kills for my weak units stop stealing them.
Third Fodlan game that’s a JRPG. Surely heroes having 4 Shez units means something?
Oh hey. Gave the rolls a shot and got her. I barely even play this game. Gotta love collecting JPEGs.
Add more cute and pretty characters to the series that make you feel like you want to be friends with them.
how hard is it to have decent story AND decent gameplay? why do the fe devs always miss the mark?
FE has never truly failed in gameplay besides maybe Echoes but you can easily count failed story after failed story post-5
Doing both things will either cause the game to be a cult classic which brings no money (Thracia 776) or turn your fanbase into trannies (fallout new vegas)
Meanwhile doing only one of those things is cheaper
I, for one, hope that the next fire emblem games straight up delete the story. It brings nothing to the game and it's the only thing that AW does right
>why do the fe devs always miss the mark?
Because the ideal gameplay of FE mostly revolves around going from interesting map to interesting map doing objectives with your talking chess pieces. But there's 2 problems that you run into when you attempt to wrap a story around this. First is that you need to find an excuse of why an army of dudes would bounce from one location to the next finding where the plot is happening consistently in a way that's believable and doesn't burn up too many resources. Everyone picked on 3H for needing the whole army to return to the monastery every chapter but there's good reason. It's dumb when you've just captured a critical foothold and then everyone says "okay let's go home." In FE8 Ephraim liberates his home and Seth tells him that the people aren't necessarily happy for his ascension but rather that Orsen has finally fricked off. Pretty good but rather than reinforcing his lands he just leaves. Because stability isn't why people play these games.
Which leads to the next problem: too many characters. Stories need to have good characters who can carry them and FE has 2 issues here. Firstly that there's way too many characters per game which makes it very difficult for them to get their various moments in games that don't reduce them to disposable chess pieces. Which leads to the next problem: any of these dudes can die. With the exception of the Lords, each story has to account for characters either being alive or dead in any number of combinations. Which means they can't have plot critical functions because if they're dead then your story hits a dead end. So instead they become really chatty NPCs with nothing to say like in Engage or totally irrelevant chess pieces like in any of Marth's games.
You can't. When the series was good, it sold like shit. When it became weeb pandering slop, it was shit but sold well. Pick your poison.
by gatekeeping you.
3H Definitive Edition
>Improved gameplay
>New maps to diversify the routes
>Improvements to existing maps
>Streamlined Monastery for NG+
>Playable Jeralt, Rhea, and Sothis as NG+ bonuses
>Improved resolution and framerate
>Unlock the Three Hopes outfits
>Extra paralogue to unlock Shez
They could unironically sell millions if they did a new version of 3H with a golden route
Everything except Shez is already available via modding. Too bad that a 3HRT like you is too moronic to figure that out
>except Shez
Then it might as well not exist.
Would be kino so we know it’ll never happen
>playable sothis
how?
would byleth strike a pose and then sounds of a e-girl going ORAORAORA would play?
Maybe by a ritual Sothis and Byleth can separate by allowing Byleth heart to beat on its own and Sothis' stone be placed in an homunculus like Sitri. Or by some choices when Byleth an Sothis fuse together it's Sothis who gets to be the dominant psyche, of course, this could be made possible only in the Silver Snow route.
Would that be so bad?
>then sounds of a e-girl going ORAORAORA would play
Considering who Seteth is voiced by, it'd more likely be MUDAMUDAMUDA.
that would be a good start, but what about the definitely definitive edition?
>each route has their own chapter goals
instead of being 95% copy pasted shit
>each character has its own paralogue now
>ashen wolves are warped into the story logically
>better writing
>improve on the gambit mechanic
>improved magic
>rebalanced classes
I guess you could say that the last three are the 'improved gameplay', but felt it had to be said
>moron still doesn't understand that "golden route" aka shit in a box is what kills any sort of discussion
>professor byleth i love you
>sorry I'm already married to the little girl inside my head and her cute feet
either make 3H2 or go back to kaga emblem or gba emblem. engage was a moronic half measure that pleased nobody and the story was trash. also get rid of the censorship, fire emblem should be an M rated series.
>GBA emblem
>good
FE7 is absolute dogshit and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
>muh Lyn fanfic shitting on FE6
>muh stupid ass plot
>muh shitty characters like LALALALALALALALA tard
>muh forced tutorial on a first playthrough
>muh stupid gaiden chapters requirements
>muh javelin/handaxe emblem because woops we forgot how to make a game so let's just spam shit tier enemies
>muh overpowered pre promotes
>muh being fricking forced to deploy lords because frick your team variety when replaying
>muh Gotoh capable of solo'ing the final chapter unless you get unlucky with the final boss stat gacha
>muh completely butchered localization, surpassing both fates and engage shit localizations because at least those games didn't completely frick up major game mechanics
We get it, it was your first FE, but that doesn't make it any better. Except it wasn't even your first FE game you fricktard 3H baby. Little homosexual didn't even mention the Tellius games in his post. Fricking homosexual tourist trying to fit in with the SNES and GBA gays
I've noticed a lot of newbies will just immediately say the GBA games are their favorite because they think it makes them look like a veteran. What's funny is that sacred stones is probably closer to Awakening than it is to something like FE6, so it doesn't even really make sense to like all of the GBA games in most cases.
Just make a Fire Emblem hero shooter spin-off developed by the Splatoon team.
>thinking a 3H2 would fix shit when 3 Copes sold less than Engayge
Are you Black folk genuinely deluded?
that's like selling TotK would sell bad because AoC didn't sell as well as BotW
3Hgays clearly didn't play or praise the game for the actual strategy aspect and only for the characters and writing, which 3 Copes does nearly exactly the same thing. The comparison with Botw is fundamentaly different as the open world and sandbox aspects are completely gone in the musou, and that's what people enjoyed.
3H story is engaging enough that people tolerated the barebones gameplay and the bloated yet optional Monastery shit.
Engage's story, character design and overall artistic direction is so bad that it distract from what probably is on the better side of gameplay in Fire Emblem.
>3H story is engaging enough that people tolerated the barebones gameplay
ehhhh, I REALLY struggled to complete my only playthrough of 3H (blue lions). I wasn't really interested in the story at all after the time skip and the map quality was so abysmal I really considered dropping it altogether.
Fair enough, at least the premise of the story got you far enough from you stopped by the inherent flaws of the game. The problem with Engage is that if you dislike the art direction or aesthetics, and it's a very hit or miss thing, it's very difficult to play any of it at all.
>3H story is engaging enough that people tolerated the barebones gameplay and the bloated yet optional Monastery shit.
And like I said, 3 Copes does nearly the same shit without the rehashed and NONE of those helped it from selling even less than Engayge.
hopes is a spin-off musou you dumb c**t. it's not part of the mainline fire emblem series.
How does that fricking matter if 3Hgays don't play it for the strategic gameplay? How are you this dense?
because that's not true, it's just a delusional cope you tell yourself. changing the genre of the game will change who it appeals to.
Bro, you people forget that the first FE Warriors also sold more than 1M by the time Awakening and Fates were swimming at around double. Some, if not a lot, of these people honestly do not give a frick about the genre.
Three Hopes had an extremely high audience retention rate for a musou spin-off. Age of Calamity retained 13% of BOTW'S audience. Three Hopes retained >25% of 3H's.
If they made a new mainline that was just like 3H it would do just as well as 3H just like TOTK is as big as BOTW.
The reason musous never do as well as the entry they're spinning off is because most people don't like musous.
If 3 copes sold a million why wasn't on the million sellers list Nintendo put out? Also, I may have bought but that doesn't mean I liked it. Big regret.
Because the million sellers list doesn't include third party sales from regions where Nintendo wasn't the publisher and they specify this, and in Japan Nintendo are not the publisher of Warriors titles, Koei Tecmo are.
This is why it was listed of Koei Tecmo's million sellers list but not Nintendo's.
Three Houses Golden
Either we get with Engage/Conquest gameplay, and Crests function like Emblems, or we get the Golden Seer as the antagonist of Warriors 2.
More Cutesythea
Arval is a better bro
Either remove one-man-armies or remove supportive mechanics.
Either allow play to make invincible killing machine that autofights everything and dodges any spell and arrow or force Player into counting actions.
Everything in between doesn't work.
I love them both tbh, and their respective seiyū
Easy, don't make your mc look like a fricking vtuber
Why are Engage vs 3h threads still a thing
Basically, it's because nobody wants to talk about Engage. It has no substance. So Engagegays have made their sole identity trait "Three Houses makes me mad" which makes them some of the most unbelievably insufferable people to talk to. That's why Engage threads died a month after release. There are schizos who have an emotional investment in it "destroying Three Houses." So now all they do is cry about Three Houses 24/7.
This thread sure as frick wasn't started by an Engagegay and you still have the gull to say that?
I mean yeah. This thread is an example of somebody baiting that crowd. They've basically been bullied out of every FE community online because of how annoying they are. They all end up congregating in /feg/.
>very FE community
Twitter isn't every community lmao
It's spelt GALL, engagetard. I know you outcasts don't read books but this is just embarrassing
Actually you're correct, as a FE fan I don't even like 3H that much but if I despise something more that Engage is the Engagegays so much that I go out of my way to post Edelgards because I know that it reminds them of the flop that Engage was and how reviled it is even compared to the mess that 3H was and it makes them seethe... And probably dilate.
NTA but 3H is most certainly more reviled by actual FE fans than Engage is
>actual FE fans
Most of the extreme 3H hates are literal Fatesbabies who have only played Fates, 3H and Engage. To actual oldgays Engage is just a resurrection from the newbie cancer of the 3DS era. It's Awakening 2, which is unsurprising because that's what the devs said their main inspiration was.
But 3H is closer to Awakening than Engage is, and by a lot. Also the "3DS era" is not one game. Conquest btfos a majority of the series while rev and awakening are utter garbage
Every single Engagie comeback is BUT MUH 3H IS WORSE which makes them think their mediocre game is better than it was.
Only because actual FE fans can't bring themselves to care about Engage in any form
if by "actual fe fans" you mean nufegays then sure. to me there is no difference between engage and the 3ds era. why would I care if its better than 3h or not?
If that's true then why were FEfans that disliked 3H so few and far between circa 2019-2022 and why is it that not even 6 months after release if there's any conversation of Engage is people throwing shit at it?
>If that's true then why were FEfans that disliked 3H so few and far between circa 2019-2022
They weren't and still aren't. The people who actually enjoy FE gameplay realized pretty much instantly that 3H wasn't what they wanted and kind of just forgot about it. The fact that they don't constantly insult the game in 3H waifuhomosexualry threads doesn't mean they like the game or something. They just realize engaging with 3H autists is pointless because they fundamentally care about different things in these games.
Good then there's a camp that enthusiastically discussed the gane and another that didn't bother because they didn't saw it was worthy of attention. All in all good-to-neutral response of the target audience and even got some new additions to said audience. Yet, the reception of Engage is arguably neutral-to -bad among the original audience and the ones FE got after 3H.
>enthusiastically discussed the game
Anon, you're kidding yourself. Unless you're trying to imply cooming to fanart and schizo edelgard ramblings pass as actual game discussion.
Well we had a solid three years of Edelgard-Dimitri banter, waifuhomosexualry of all posible candidates, discussing lore, characters backstory and theories of relationship between characters and historical figures/events in Fodlan, le contrarian Claudeposter, that Bernie!Bernie!Bernie! Dude and eating with Ingrid, people posting broken builds, strategies, obscure relics and paralogues ghat were hard to find, TWSITD, Seteth and Church-Bad!/Dragon-Mummy shitposts... I could go on, but my point is many people found entertainment engaging in this particular game, it may very well not be to your particular liking but it was there...
Probably because homosexuals like you can't shut the frick up about it. Engage would've faded to the background with people here and there actually talking about on occasion.
Gay kiss in FE18
there is nothing wrong with grooming
- Make more Tellius games because it has the most comfy world.
- Get rid of the self insert time traveling and no personality "strategist" MC character types
- Get rid of the shit where any character can reclass into any role, ruining their character stories, personalities, and player immersion
- Remove the ability to revisit maps to grind more exp
- Bring back tier three classes
- Remove casual mode
- Remove easy/normal mode
- We can keep the turn rewind feature though
- Remove the 3d base and keep all the shit you do at the base in the damn map menu between chapters like it was because once upon a time this was a strategy game about going to war and not playing tea party at a vacation resort
Genealogy remake with sex scenes, that's all you need.
FE is shit, play Yggra Union instead.
engage was good. I wish you dudes would get past the designs and give it a chance. Its actually a really good game. Also for the love of god, don't play with the english dub. The japanese voice actors put on an amazing performance
>inb4 but you can't understand japanese
emotion transcends language barrier.
I did though. I played hard and maddening and I still didn’t like it. I don’t hate the characters I hate the rings, they break the gameplay even on maddening plus some skills are really broken like Corrins fire skill and the team up skill heroes have
I did. I enjoy the game and Framme is my wife. I also like Celine for her bandit genocidal ways
3 houses sequel or prequel or whatever. And bring Hidari back
How come Engagegays are trying to push this “FE fans never cared about story” when before the 3DS era the most popular game was Fe4 and the story was what people loved and not the gameplay.
Yes, I totally remember people talking about FE4 all the fricking time before 3H came out. They definitely talked about FE4 in depth and not just some random BBQ shitposts. People certainly didn't discuss FE5-10 all the fricking time
It's called "coping" they emotionally invested in a failed product and refuse to see that they were wrong. Maybe some were disgruntled FE fans that didn't like the direction the franchise took in the 3DS era and saw the investment of plot-over-gameplay peaked in 3H an though to put all their argumentative eggs in Engage... But certainly they're wrong if that's the case.
>It's called "coping" they emotionally invested in a failed product and refuse to see that they were wrong. Maybe some were disgruntled FE fans that didn't like the direction the franchise took in the 3DS era and saw the investment of plot-over-gameplay peaked in 3H an though to put all their argumentative eggs in Engage... But certainly they're wrong if that's the case.
This pretty much. Except rabid Engage haters aren't disgruntled FE fans from the pre-Awakening era, they're disgruntled FE fans from the Awakening era itself. Engage does all the cringe shit Fateswakening did. The oldgays that hated Fateswakening didn't suddenly magically start liking Fateswakening style FE games with Engage. It's the Fateswakening diehards that were happy for it to return. Most oldgays don't give a shit anymore and just play ROM hacks.
Most popular yet the obly shit they talk about is Arvis cucking and killing Sigurd? Get fricking real. You people are coping at this point.
immortal grandmother-wife.
3H
>Passable gameplay
>Good characters
>Good story
>Good lore
>Good OST
>Appropriate artstyle for FE
>Bad graphics
Engage
>Above average gameplay
>Annoying characters
>Boring story
>Non-existent lore
>Bland OST with a few meme tracks thrown in like the Solm themes or the Four Hounds theme
>Artstyle looks nothing like an FE game, remove Marth from the cover and it wouldn't be recognisable as one
>Much better graphics quality than 3H. The Emblems look great in Engage because they benefit from improved graphics but aren't dragged down by Engage's artstyle/character designs.
It is not surprising to see why one did better than the other. Being passable in a wide variety of areas simply gives you more appeal as a game then doing one thing really well but utterly failing by every other standard somebody might hold a Fire Emblem game to.
This is not "GAMEPLAY DOESN'T MATTER", it's that people are wiling to overlook the gameplay not being the best in the series if as compensation the game excels in other areas at an extent that has not been seen since the Tellius games, maybe the Jugdral ones even.
they should rename the franchise to Ice Emblem and make a game set in antartica
I really did like the whole lore/world Three Houses has set up. It's so much possible stuff to be explored and seen, even beyond Fodlan with the other countries.
I monkey paw'd Hopes into existence because of Age of Calamity (I have posts hoping for it since AoC was first revealed), but didn't quite get the golden ending or expansion of lore I wanted. Instead it was just a lite version of Houses with a cliffhanger ending, as to not "overshadow" the former game, according to the devs
Musou style fits Fire Emblem very well, so I liked it. But IDK, what if I could monkey paw Monolith Soft making an Action RPG Fodlan Fire Emblem with their world/zone design capabilities?
If they make another FE musou in the Switch's lifespan it will be for Engage. Which is obviously a disaster waiting to happen because they'll be substituting the only slightly redeeming factor of Engage for fricking musou gameplay.
Imagine if this is what Monolith has been cooking alongside Xenoblade 3? Monkey paw the frick out of it.
It's ok, monkeypawbro, we all make mistakes sometimes, even with the best intentions.
Give anime anime and make Ganker argue about edelgard for gorillionth time.
I liked 3H, Musou3H and Engage
Good for you, you must be Buddha.
Not that anon but it feels like there shouldn't be this terrible divide between the fan base. All the games are pretty good and some of them do some things better than others. The gameplay of Tellius is pretty meh but I like its characters a lot and its world a lot. Fates and Awakening turn me off with the eugenics and some of the pair up / dual guard mechanics but I think they both have things that make them fun to play and worthy entries. 3H got me really attached to the people at the monastery even if I hated doing the monastery chores. Engage has maybe the worst story ever but it's still fun to play and setting up an ideal turn in it feels really good once you're proficient in its mechanics. Weirdly I have nothing to say about the GBA games despite starting with 7. I always thought Sacred Stones was a bit easy and short and I didn't really like its characters, but a recent replay has given me a small appreciation for some of the oppressive maps like the fog of war ship and Riev's assault in the dark near the end of the game. FE7 is perfectly medium.
Rather than hating what we have, I feel like we should be wishing for more.
homosexuals are mad that the most popular FE is “Persona” Emblem.
But why should they be? It's a fun game. Almost all of the Fire Emblem games are fun. The optics or genre deviation of the game shouldn't matter when measured against its quality.
I haven't even played any "Persona" games and 3H is one of my favorites in the franchise.
3H is nothing like Persona. Dumbasses think that any game with a school setting is automatically Persona
THE CHARACTERS ! THEY TALK TO EACH OTHER ! JUST LIKE IN PERSONA !
Engagie dishonesty
And the calendar mechanic
And people praising the social shit
And the first ever mute fire emblem protagonist lord
And having to endure god awful dungeons/maps after each month
>And having to endure god awful dungeons/maps after each month
Having to play maps on a Fire Emblem game, shocking.
Yeah I wanted to keep dating Marianne not kill some fricking bandits
Same persona vibes, imagine wanting to go to fricking tartarus for the 10th fricking time instead of spending some time with Mitsuru
They suck ass and it's not my ass they're sucking.
You're right, it shouldn't but I think is mostly coming from the "fans" and no the product itself. In a normal non-internet-driven-discussion world FE3H would be as critically acclaimed as it is and FEE would stand on it own merits and maybe be a cult classic with a niche and devoted fandom; but these monkeys live on extremes: if you don't like FEE you don't like Fire Emblem! If you like 3H better you like datesims and Persona! The gameplay is all that matters in a medieval fantasy political drama driven franchise!... And on, and on...
>Engage released half a year ago
>Ganker FE threads are back to Edelgard arguments
The same autists will never stop, and Engage wasn't very memorable anyways outside of my cute sisterwife Veyle.
There are other vtubers that look more interesting.
People still Nowipost from Awakening which is over 10 years old now.
out of 10!
It's funny that Nowi's popularity/relevance has endured longer than Lucina or Tharja.
it helps that her resplendent was 10/10 while lucina's made her reddit filled fanbase seethe
>lucina's made her reddit filled fanbase seethe
I don’t know any specific examples but I can imagine the response, normalgays really are the worst thing ever huh?
Lucina's resplendent resulted in Himukai being flooded with death threats by westerners.
That’s what happens when you release a game that’s unbelievably forgettable and sold half as many copies as the previous entry in the series.
So, the reason why people keep shitting on engage is because they did not buy/play it? Seems about right
What a cope, no Engagegay, people complain because it was so awful looking that even if the were FE fans they wouldn't touch it.
If you could stomach 3H's god awful musou engine artstyle, then you could very well also stomach Engage "god awful" artstyle
>actually i just hate the tooth paste hair 🙂
Based, I too refuse to play good games that have Black person protagonists in it.
>Me personally, I didn’t buy it because I fricking refuse to buy another Fire Emblem game with a god awful hub world. Having non-combat gameplay functions separated by physical fricking distance is so god damn awful.
Good thing you can completely skip all that shit. Some guy is currently doing an ironman run without the hub world and it's a really fun way to play the game. Just pure strategy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IeadfNEZp4
You can easily do the same on a hard mode playthrough during your first time. The only thing that you really shouldn't skip is the forge mechanic, but you can treat it exactly like the FE9/10 forge since it's just one NPC that you have to talk to right next to the spot you spawn in.
It's nowhere near as bad as 3H where the game straight up locks promotion seals behind shitty monastery quests and budding talents behind instructions which require you eat meals with your students to raise motivation.
graphics and artstyle are not the same thing
you could have a berserk anime with HD animation but if the characters are redesigned to look like pretty cure characters nobody is going to watch it
The artstyle and characters looks good though?
Battle animations are also the absolute best of the franchise, with characters dodging arrows by cutting them in half
Get better arguments please
The game is fricking free on PC for fricks sake, go play it instead of making up bullshit
>The artstyle and characters looks good though?
As opposed to the game that every homosexuals keep comparing to? Yes
>implying engage doesn't also have rampant sameface on top of not looking like an FE game
>implying they didn't literally admit in an interview that pikazo feels extremely uncomfortable drawing anything that isn't a generic moeblob
I remember not believing the leaks because all the female characters looked identical + toothpaste-chan
An FE leak with sameface is more likely to be real than not. Sameface has plagued FE since FE1. Saying an FE game has sameface is a brainlet criticism for a series that literally had multiple entries where every character was an edit of another character.
Ah yes, the classic WAAAAH HATE ANIME argument
literally the only unanimous criticism of engage outside of the story is that the character design and artstyle look fricking awful and wouldn't be recognisable as an FE game if they didn't plaster marth all over it
Even in this very charitable image of that god awful looking game it doesn't look good.
The palette with those saturations/contrasts are a crime on the eyes that doesn't get reported enough.
>Based, I too refuse to play good games that have Black person protagonists in it.
>Engagetroony is a /leftypol/ troon
Shocking
It actually sold better than 3 houses in its first week and then word of mouth about the game spread and sales dried up almost instantly.
Weebs and /misc/-gays skipped on it because “muh censorship”, Lefties skipped on it because “It wasn’t censored enough/muh pedo-bait”, and normies skipped out on it because the story and dialogue was just painfully cringe.
Me personally, I didn’t buy it because I fricking refuse to buy another Fire Emblem game with a god awful hub world. Having non-combat gameplay functions separated by physical fricking distance is so god damn awful.
>and normies skipped out on it because the story and dialogue was just painfully cringe.
The gameplay is also too confusing and awkwardly balanced compared to other FEH titles.
The game is basically designed for autists and the game is too big to try and solely appeal to them
WTF? I love normies now!
Based Kirby, I actually gave up on my maddening engage run to play return to dreamland
No it's word of mouth from other people hating it. Engage had the biggest first week of any FE title. Then it immediately imploded because the main reaction from people who bought it was "damn this shit sucks lmao."
After 3H, I was hopeful that monster like Fate we're finally behind.
>that monster like Fate we're finally behind
>Everyone mainly remembers the Conquest characters
>No one remembers the Birthright characters except the Samurai lord and the red haired tomboy
Why was this?
Sakura was more memorable than Hinoka. Hinoka is one of the least popular Fates characters and by far the least popular royal.
>people remember characters from the route that's more fun to play
>final boss of the route was ranked as the most popular hoshidan male due to being the first archer final boss
Sakura does nothing in all of Fates. She's not a brother so she doesn't get story relevance through a royal weapon. Her class is bad and her stats aren't as good as Elise. Hinoka is in a similar situation but she at least gets her own map in Conquest, but compared to Camilla she isn't as good of a unit and for coomers her breasts aren't as big.
Funny how this poll right after Fates came out is so different from the ones even a year later. Camilla and Elise are the top dogs, Oboro dropped and Hinoka fell off the face of the earth.
Beside the lesbian with the potion and the femboy, I can't remember a single children from this game.
It's crazy how literally this entire cast are literal whos nowadays except for Corrin and Camilla.
>forgetting best imouto and the one genuine 12 year old (not a dragon) you get to impregnate in the whole series
The Hoshidans are, at best, boring. But most are psychotic, racist pathological liars.
Meanwhile, the Nohrians were basically Awakening 2; a bunch of friendly anime characters who all help eachother out (except Peri).
Reminder that Ryoma knows Corrin is neither Nohrian or Hoshidan the entire time in every route, and still tries to blackmail Corrin into returning to Hoshido with him by forcing Elise to die of an illness for no fricking reason.
Alear's design genuinely turned off more people than IS will ever know. Even if Fates was written like shit too at least Corrin didn't have the toothpaste shit going on. They also focused on the rings in the trailers which no one really cared about.
>Even if Fates was written like shit too
I'll take Engage's main plot over anything in Fates any day of the week. Even if it was cliche it wasn't as painfully moronic. I genuinely had to stop playing Fates at one point because I was so angry at the writing.
I have played pretty much every Fire Emblem game except for nes garbage and I dropped Engage around chapter 4 because of the toothpaste hair just being too much. Like I can look at the terrible FE4 portraits and love the game, but toothpaste blue and red hair on the main character is just too much
Also everyone calling you "The Divine Dragon" and fawning over you is so cringe
Nobody wanted Fatesshit to return and Engage is Fatesshit embodied.
There's no saving this series because nobody bought it before anime tropes, basic b***h gameplay and waifushit was introduced so now you'll have to deal with that shitting up your game for the rest of time.
Three Houses Unwound with another four routes except this is a timeline where Byleth doesn't kill Shez and they both end up at the academy together.
And also a new char who joins the Knights of Seiros.
So you have Byleth as the Professor, Shez a Student, and new blonde person as a Knight.
Someone has an explanation for Fates and Engage scenario ?
Like, how does anyone look at those plot and say "yeah it's fine".
It's pure coincidence that BOTH this games are "praised" by their gameplay...
Written by the same woman who doesn't play FE games and had zero writing credits before being hired for Awakening, Fates and Engage.
more qt brown boys and a good plot
the entire engage vs 3h drama is hilarious because engage gays are just 3dsbabies who think they're oldgays now
if you started with the 3ds era you are physically incapable of being elitist. you're that embarrassing.
I started with FE7 like the majority of western babies and liked conquest and engage
The only games that I haven't finished were 1 2 3 and 12
most people who played the pre-awakening games did so with an emulator after you couldn't reasonably purchase them, gay. don't pretend otherwise
someone should really make a Sothis chat bot on chub.ai
Awakening
Awakening II (Fates)
Awakening III (Engage)
Also known as THE SLOP SAGA is at an end, JVGRDAL will return FE to form. Awakeningtrannies are really now pretending Awakening was a good game, even though it was reviled by fans and only liked by nuFE gays / secondaries who started with it. I spit on them.
Started with Path of Radiance. Awakening was good. Suck my balls.
>Awakeninghomosexual attemps to initiate gay sex with a man online
Many such cases.
ZIGLUDO...I...I KNEEL TO THE SUPERIOR JVGDRAL WVRLDBUILDING AND NVRRATIVE
>censored by troon house
nothing personal jugtroon
What would there be to censor in Jugdral?
really Black person?
they have to tone down uncle Kaga's problematic content you dumb queer or did you miss the drama of FF16 and the rape?
>Doesn’t give any specific examples
It’s all so tiresome.
censored violence, they will tone down arvis bbq
any sexist shit will be removed (as usual), hell they might tone down the Loptr Sect to not anger israelitetendo's ((banks)), they will censor rapist Ziguldo
sigurd never raped anyone tho
Shut up, cuck.
the fe4 remake
engage is so ugly and cringe i refuse to buy it
>my Shez worship outdone by Edelposting
Makes me sad
>The artstyle and characters looks good though
Let me guesss ... you're a Chud who thinks there's something wrong with vtubers and streamers? Deal w/ it, Engage looks good.
At least Engays are admitting that the characters look like vtuber rejects, that's progress.
licking Annas dicky
Licking her what?
FUKKEN SAVED
Did the design really causes sales to drop after the first week? That’s the first I heard of a character causing a sales drop. Has that ever happened before?
well that and the awful plot
If you're talking about Engage, yes people didn't buy the game because of how it looked.
Similar stuff happened with Xenoblade 2, but XB2 had years of "Guys the story is actually great and the combat is fun!" behind it.
Engage won't have that. People already ignore Conquest, and that game had a better artstyle. Nobody REALLY cares about gameplay in FE. The only ones who do already bought it.
No. The fact the first week sales were good showed people were willing to overlook the designs. Word of mouth killed it. And most of the word of mouth was "characters, story and world are shit."
"Word of mouth" doesn't work like that, anon.
WoM would be what gets more people to buy it. But there was no word of mouth, because nobody liked it.
It's like a "hot and cold aren't opposites, cold is just the absence of heat" kind of thing.
You can have negative word of mouth, what are you talking about?
Everybody saying "don't buy X it's shit" will turn people away from buying X.
Ah yes.
No Man's Sky and CP2077.
Those games that were commercial flops.
Those games that didn't sell, because everyone never stopped talking about them.
Word of mouth still gets people to buy games. Engage just didn't have ANY word of mouth at all.
>There’s no such thing as bad word of mouth
>what is No Man’s Sky and CP2077 on release
Are you moronic?
Engage is only unique because most of the bad word of mouth is “The game story and characters are cringe inducing” as opposed to “The game is a buggy unplayable mess”.
Engage had massive preorders compared to 3H, but also terrible word of mouth. I usually don't watch YouTube content of FE, but I do watch one player (Mangs) and he said today Engage viewership has basically plummeted to the point where old games, like FE7, do better. There was a buzz in the air around 3H for months. I think Engage is way too easy on Hard (which is what most people will pick, as Madenning / Lunatic are usually the super hard options of FE and just regular Hard with Engage) and there's not a lot of customisability, even with class changing. I don't know if it will have the sales (because Engage has tanked FE's reputation) but I expect if it was an FE4 remake it would have lingered in the zeitgeist a while longer because not only does it have an actual plot but it also has eugenics. 3H didn't have eugenics but it had factions instead which also drags out discussion.
The designs in Engage ranged from universally liked (Alfred, Celine, Vander, Anna) to extremally divisive (Yunaka, Hortensia, Timerra, Panette) to universally disliked (Alear). The biggest issue is that the universally disliked one is the MC.
If you want an example of two tone hair that turned out okay look at Veyle. If they did that with Alear too it would have been received much better.
Female Alear grew on me, but Male Alear's hair-part will always make him look moronic.
No, I am not buying Engage.
Veyle's two tone hair just blends into gray/silver unless you look too hard which is how it should be. No amount of squinting will make toothpaste blend though.
>universally liked (Alfred, Celine, Vander, Anna)
what the actual frick are you talking about
celine is one of the textbook examples people use for engage being vtuber clown shit
Hating Celine is bait as fk
God I wish Celine was in a better FE game.
I groaned when they included Awakening characters in Fates but I’d be more than willing to overlook them doing the same for Celine and a few other actually good characters in the next FE game.
>Celine
>Goldmary
>Panette
In FE4R when?!
Celine could be in any FE game and no one would bat an eye. The butterfly crown is a bit much but whatever, it blends better than the other clown vtuber shit.
>Celine could be in any FE game and no one would bat an eye.
That is bullshit and you either don't actually believe this or do and it's because you've only played Engage.
Other "noble princess" characters are people like Lachesis, Clarine and Celica and they look nowhere near as moronic as Celine does.
>universally liked (Alfred, Celine, Vander, Anna)
Remove Celine and put Diamant
I'd remove Alfred from universally liked because he isn't, he looks like a zesty Dimitri. Celine is the embodiment of extremely divisive. Hortensia is near universally disliked. Timerra IS universally disliked. She's a main character and did so poorly in the polls for the game she didn't rank on them. Citrinne and Lapis are better described as "universally liked" than half of the clowns you listed.
I hate vander because when the leaks happened his face wasn't really finished and he looked like a 20 something wearing a fake old man beard and I still cannot unsee it whenever I look at him
That can't be true. Three Houses is the best selling game in the franchise and that game's artstyle is fricking awful
Fire Emblem Three Houses: The Next Generation
Fire Emblem Three Houses: Arena Ultimax and Three Houses Dancing are coming soon
Fire Emblem and sameface go hand in hand. It's not unique to Engage or 3H.
This was just making the most of engine limitation. To be honest, these characters didn't even need faces they were minor bosses who appeared alongside other, major bosses. I think FE4 still has 30 unique portraits just for bosses, for reference FE Engage has 20 bosses, 1 of whom is literally your character and 5 of whom who are constantly reused.
There are other examples though that people don't notice. Ares is just Eldigan's portrait flipped and recoloured. Seliph is an edit of Deirdre. Larcei is an edit of Ayra. If you look through FE4 most of the playable characters are edits of another character.
frick engage. I just want more 3H content, I wanna go back to hanging out with my students again
>fe4 has unironic cuckolding
Wtf
Yeah, it's based on Sigurd's part of the Völsung Cycle, just with some role reversal. The mythological Sigurd actually loses his memory and his lover gets cucked by the Queen of Burgundy (who then has to marry her brother) IIRC.
So what's your cope going to be when FE4 remake releases and sells like shit just like SoV?
We'll blame Engage for turning everybody away from FE for the rest of the Switch generation.
Is this a Discord raid? I swear to God whenever I just see these types of comments, I immediately assume their fans of Edelgard.
>I swear to God whenever I just see these types of comments, I immediately assume their fans of Edelgard.
not wrong
Discord? Engage has a 100% LGBT cast. It is Discord's game.
Engage literally killed the FE fanbase.
This
I use the same cope response for Engage flopping. Imagine buying engage after the piece of shit that was 3H
It filtered all the waifugay tourists who don't play videogames
>It filtered all the waifugay tourists who don't play videogames
Before 3H, before Fates, before Awakening
The Fe Fan we're always waifugay
>The Fe Fan we're always waifugay
The cope will be FE4 was always shit and that FE always sucked until 3H.
Why does everyone hate Engage so much? I thought it was mediocre but people are acting like this is worse than Fates Revelation
>Why does everyone hate Engage so much? I thought it was mediocre but people are acting like this is worse than Fates Revelation
Because Revelation was being compared to Birthright and Conquest which people had mixed feelings about. Engage gets compared to the most popular game in the franchise. People had higher expectations for Engage than Revelation. By the time Rev came out we already knew Fates was bad.
So this is the quality plot of Jugdral huh?
the difference between oldFE and nuFE is that in oldFE you'd have one gag character who is a weirdo and people would treat them like a weirdo
in nuFE everybody is a quirky weirdo which fundamentally changes the tone of the game
>oldFE you'd have one gag character who is a weirdo and people would treat them like a weirdo
in oldFE you have either
>literal who with 3 lines total
>Quirky comedy relief
>piece of drywall
>MC who gets 90% of the dialogue
No one actually plays OldFE. They just larp as OldFEgays just to "own" NuFEgays and pretend like they have any kind of superiority whatsoever.
I haven't paid attention to Engage shit in a while, was it confirmed whether Celine still friendzones you in JP? Or was that just localizer troony shit?
It's only localized and the uncensored patch was just completed
That doesn't answer my question, was Celine rewritten?
she marries you in Jap
Is it properly romantic?
a darker griddy fe game. ant the art direction/style to reflect that. it doesn't have to be complete edge. I'd love suzuki rika to be the main artist.
>How do we save Fire Emblem, bros???
You don't
3H was the only good thing that came out of FE
https://mynintendonews.com/2023/06/19/leaker-claims-nintendo-direct-will-feature-new-2d-mario-and-remake-of-a-snes-game/
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
SIGURD IS ARRIVING TO SAVE THE FRANCHISE
It will be Zelda Link to the Past. They wanted to remake it previous (on the 3DS) but were unable (and made the KINO that was Link between Worlds instead). A SNES classic doesn't describe FE4 for Westerners.
let see if he will survive the NoA pozzing
Please have an MU
Oifey will be the MU expy
Either Zelda or Super Metroid as an apology for prime 4
Genuinely the small cast of Lena, Rickard, Nabarl and Castor in BS Saga completely and utterly mog all of nuFE in terms of writing and even voice acting, despite having relatively little to say compared to modern games. Go and listen to it (unfortunately, you cannot play it as it originally was) if you don't beleive me. The chapters themselves are shit, though. You can play variants in FE12 - no good!
FE4 has Suzuki ready to go, she has been drawing for FE for over 25 years and is a Juggernaut
I just can't get over how garbage the designs are, holy shit why is it so bad? celine looks stupid, Timerra even worse, Hortensia is awful as well, but making the main character the worst is shooting yourself in the foot. Alear is basically a vtuber, they all have a horrible, messy design for some reason.
FireneseGODS, we're going home
>lachesis fricks dewey not even 3 months later after eldigan's death
why do we like this prostitute again?
Uhm
..my MU got blessings from Eldigan to marry her especially since I have Hodr blood
Eldigan would kill every Firene shitter
Firene vs Nordion is just Targ vs Blackfyre
If the Targaryens were autistic clowns and the Blackfyres were normal people sure.
Oh wait.
If it is FE4R I'll just be glad the era of the Engagebominations only lasted like four months.
>Engage's gameplay
>Rika Suzuki's art
>Jugdral/Fodlan levels of lore and backstory
Alear would be banished to the "Spinoff Bin" with Tsubasa forever.
none of that will ever happen, it will be
>jugdral gameplay down to a T like with Echoes
>engage 3d model art
>less comblex story because it will be too bloated and too serious for the average nu-fe fan that only cares about LGBT and lesbian emperors
I want you to kneel.
okay what if
>fe4 but Arvis is a lesbian
Echoes was the way it was because Kusakihara was the director (dude was just the Art Director and stole all credit for Kozaki's work, and somehow got promoted to regular Director??), and Gaiden was his favorite FE. So he ported it 1:1, and then hired the artist that he wanted for Awakening before settling for Kozaki.
Unless Genealogy is Kusakihara or Maeda's second-favorite FE, I don't think we'll be getting 1:1 like with Echoes.
How would Jugtroons feel if they added an avatar like in Fe12 after seeing Echoes flopping?
Oifey is now a customizable self-insert that can S-support the entire cast (regardless of gender)
As always, FE4 is ahead of the trend
You could literally just take Finn or Oifey, keep the name, and let people pick their sex, and everyone would just shrug and say "ok."
Not Finn, he leaves partway through. It would have to be Oifey, he's with you from the very beggining right until the end (except for part of Chapter 5). I think him having facial hair probably hurts him most, you'd need to be able to shave his face for Japs to be attached to him.
>. I think him having facial hair probably hurts him most, you'd need to be able to shave his face for Japs to be attached to him.
mustache enjoyers are truly the most oppressed weebs
I miss 90s anime
3h won
If they add an Avatar to FE4 that you can romance characters with and can change their looks, you can have an army that is nearly entirely BLONDE in the next generation (excluding set pairs)
FE4 BREEDING SOWS
EDAIN
AYRA
LACHESIS
SYLVIA
FURY
TAILTIU
BRIGID
That's 7
FE4 BLONDE GUYS (Gen I)
NOISHE
DEW
HOLYN
BEOWULF
FR CLAUDE
(You)???
That's 6
You already get Ares as a blonde for free in Gen II.
Just think about it. Seliph's glorious GOLDEN ARMY.
Sadly I'm afraid they won't add Hair Colour Ineritance (even though Kaga wanted it and was only unable to put it in due to engine limitations).
He says he's "enjoying Engage", so I can't tell if he's oblivious or moronic.
>the game called "Engage" couldn't keep it's playerbase engaged
Engage is frickin great. My gripe with it is that martial master is ass. Why they decided to cap speed so low and have no growths for speed is beyond me. Why they decided to do arts damage as half of str+mag is also beyond me.
>Take this, homosexual! ELTHUNDER!
Maeda would never. Why aren't modern FE characters written this way anymore?
now that's a sexo character design
why did engage go full clown shit?
No idea, Jugdral is full of sexo but it all looks appropriate for the setting so it's sexokino.
>play engage
>see the evil red haired Alear
Goddamn why didn’t they just make his hair fully red. Didn’t the concept art for Alear show as him just having red hair?
The two tone hair actually has a canonical reason to exist. It's incredibly stupid but there is a reason
No Sommie, no buy.
Good. Ideally the type of people who defend Engage never come back and return to whatever fotm weebslop game they came from.
>Ideally the type of people who defend Engage never come back and return to whatever fotm weebslop game they came from.
Fire Emblem?
Fateswakening sure. But those aren't real Fire Emblem games anyway.
Anon, if FE fans bought Engage, then it would have had comparable sales to 3H.
Anon, 50% of the fandom never played a Fire Emblem. They only ever played 3H.
That applies to like every fandom except maybe Shooters.
The fact remains that Engage only had 1/3rd of the sales of the previous game. That's hardly "the fanbase" because it's not even HALF of the last fanbase.
>The fact remains that Engage only had 1/3rd of the sales of the previous game. That's hardly "the fanbase" because it's not even HALF of the last fanbase.
The previous game only racked up those sales after 4 years anon.
It had 3 million after the first year.
I get that your uncle molested you as a child and you're a fan of Engage because of it, but Engage doesn't have legs. It's doing worse than the 3DS games did a decade ago.
>but Engage doesn't have legs.
That's what you guys said about Fates but its easier to play than 3H and even Engage.
>It had 3 million after the first year.
That game is special because people bought on the merit of being a waifu simulator, not a good game.
this. edelgard carried 3 houses pretty hard. it was my first fire emblem and without edelgard i would have never bought it.
Theres no reason to lash out at another anon just because he isn't a Vn aficionado. Some of us like to actually plays the GAME portion of this VIDEO GAME series
>Some of us like to actually plays the GAME portion of this VIDEO GAME series
And it's a very small minority.
Even since the 90s, FE was upheld by its VN shipping stuff, and any time a game was hard, it had no fanbase
>nips love FE4 for decades
>abandon FE5
>ehhhh on FE6
>FE7 is easier, so the fanbase comes back
>9 and 10 lived and died by Ike x Soren shipping
>11 and 12 had none, so nobody cared
>13 and 14 had shipping, so it had record-breaking sales
>15 had no shipping, so nobody cared
>16 was full of shipping, with arguably the most complex characters
>17 drops all shipping in favor of better gameplay, and dies
>Even since the 90s, FE was upheld by its VN shipping stuff, and any time a game was hard, it had no fanbase
>>16 was full of shipping, with arguably the most complex characters
Why are 3Homos like this
Wait, did they release a patch that gave Ilyana a character trait other than "I am hungry?"
Was there a remake of FE6 that gave Lilina a goal in life other than "land on Roy's wiener?"
Those weren't fire emblem fans though. They were just Black folk who latch on the latest fotm.
I wanted to like Engage. But no new game plus and the moronic side story DLC integration made me drop interest.
And the moronic bond Crystal costs.
when someone dies in FE it doesn't feel impactful or maybe I'm soulless I can understand the appeal of this franchise I do like Celica
Everyone likes Celica. Even people that hate FE like Celica
get a good artist again, for starters
the 3h ost was also pretty good
Hipsters like to deny it but 3H did most thing right. The main problems stem from the route system, with only Blue Lions not being blatantly unfinished or lacking in some way, too much map reuse and bad balancing/character progression. The latter is mostly the fault of it inheriting awakening style character building where it seems to take on a Disgaea style thing where you're just trying to min/max characters into being busted and doing maddening/very hard DLC content (NewFE) rather than it primarily being all about managing finite resources and more limited characters with wildly different growth potential/uses (OldFE).
But at the end of the day, 3H showed that FE could actually have good music, story, character designs, writing etc if it wanted to, which makes Engage being Awakening tier garbage in that regard again even more damning.
>3H could have been good IF IT WANTED TO!
3H will never be fun.
Not at all what I said, but sure. I found it fun, by the way, as I imagine many people did given more people seem to like it than Engage.
People like it because they get to pretend they're in anime high school, not because the gameplay is fun.
>Source: The voices in my head
Odd how no one talks about that shit then and instead talk about the characters/main story. In fact, the monastery stuff is widely regarded as one of the worst parts of the game. How do you rationalize that?
>In fact, the monastery stuff is widely regarded as one of the worst parts of the game. How do you rationalize that?
Only on here, everywhere else people loved it because it allowed them to take in the atmosphere.
probably because the average gamer doesn't finish games, it never became a chore for xhem
>In fact, the monastery stuff is widely regarded as one of the worst parts of the game.
Too bad that 3H's success and the insane amount of hate that engage is getting means that monastery cancer is the future of the franchise.
Literally fricking how. It's the same fricking area every fricking time.
Edeltard starts a war, everything turns to shit, you're forced to traverse Fodlan to conquer territory AND YET THEY KEEP FRICKING SHOVING THE FRICKING MONASTERY DOWN YOUR FRICKING THROAT
It LITERALLY breaks the fricking atmosphere, why the FRICK do you keep warping back to the fricking hub world? Not even fricking engage is that bad, you're only forced to return to the fricking Somniel in 3 chapters, meanwhile 3H has a literal fricking moving castle that is omni fricking present, except not really, the entire party simply retreats back to the center of the map every fricking battle
Even if all gigahomosexuals want is talk to their shitty waifus, then both 9 and 10 did the exact same fricking shit but better. A fricking camp where there are unique conversations with allies. No time waste at all
Imagine if the FE4 remake turns the already shitty castles into Monastery 2.0, shit would fricking suck when all they have to do is give players the option to talk inside the castle menu instead of doing it outside
>Literally fricking how. It's the same fricking area every fricking time.
The VN audience is willing to walk through a hundred miles of bad gameplay for the sake of waifu moments.
Eugenics and shipping are the heart and soul of FE. GBAbabies will screech when you point out it predates their games, which are three of the least interesting, least innovative games in the series. The GBA era is peak stagnation.
Notice how FE only became mainstream again in Japan when they ignored the GBA entries and went back to grabbing mechanics and stories from the Kaga era.
this
FE4 is the most popular game there
Awakening resurrected the franchise - by taking eugenics from FE4
Three Houses is the best selling game because of its writing - which the devs have gone on record saying they just took from FE4
the further they stray from the jugdral games the more confused about its identity the FE games get and the worse they end up performing
>the further they stray from the jugdral games the more confused about its identity the FE games get and the worse they end up performing
Reminder that Kaga said Jugdral was the outlier and not the route by which FE was supposed to be.
No, he said the gameplay of Genealogy was different and he was unlikely to do maps that big again. To this day he makes games with Thracia's gameplay and Genealogy's story. Jugdral is Fire Emblem. Everything that makes it successful comes from that setting.
>Everything that makes it successful comes from that setting.
Except the gameplay aka the only reason to play TRPGs.
>the further they stray from the jugdral games the more confused about its identity the FE games get and the worse they end up performing
So does that mean we should bring back follow-up critical and unlimited range warps
I'd be down with that
FE3 is the most popular Japanese FE
Not him, but no.
It sold more in its initial run, but there's a reason FE3 didn't get TWO manga runs.
The in-game shipping upheld Genealogy for decades. Still does.
>Not him, but no.
It sold more copies so its more popular.
Engage sold more copies than Genealogy, but people care more about a Genealogy remake than they care about Engage.
If people actually cared about FE4, then it would have made twice as much as 3, but it didn't.
Then why does Japan only care about Marth
>Then why does Japan only care about Marth
They don't care about Marth. Otherwise, it wouldn't have taken Marth FIVE YEARS to win a popularity poll that the devs rigged in his favor.
And he still lost to a fricking nameless NPC.