I can beat the superbosses in Kingdom Hearts 1+2 and Splatoon 2's DLC, Master's Battle Set 8 Mysterial in PBR, play Death Wish in Payday 2...and still eat shit at original SMB.
The myth of "Pro Gamers" good at everything is fake. It's learned skillsets, like hard labor vs intellectuals.
In 1991 snes had: >A Link To The Past >Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts >Super Castlevania IV >Final Fantasy IV >Turtles In Time >Super R-Type >Street Fighter II
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pre-3D Zelda is ass and turned me off the entire series.
seriously, Zelda one is gay as shit
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Okay but ALTTP is not the first Zelda game zoomer. In just its release year snes already had a ton of classic good games come out.
Being boomer I can still appreciate classical music, 60's and 70's music. What's your frickinng excuse? they are old too, so by your logic I shouldn't be able to listen to old music nor watch old tv shows.
If you had posted a picture of an NES or 2600, I would agree with you, but SNES basically perfected 2D games. Super Mario World, A Link to the Past, and Final Fantasy VI aren't all that different from the more recent 2D entries in those franchises.
Lmao >Mario, Zelda, the list goes on...
Mega Drive mogged that pile of underclocked shit into next Sunday despite being older. You know you're on Gankerintendo when morons tell you SNES had the better version of Aladdin
Every nintendo console from the Snes to GC sold less than the one before. Hell the Wii U rivals the Dreamcast for number of sales. Switch is just cribbing from their dead handheld market
>literally no one had a gaya drive and if they did they would have been beat up for being gay.
False and a larp, Sega had more sports games, Mortal Kombat with blood, and less censorship. Nintendi was seen as middy shit. Older kids played on sega. Not to mention the snes looks like a blocky kids toy. The only reason you hear about the snes more is because people who owned a sega grew out of games in general or moved to PC. Tendies are perpetually in arrested development and never grew up. I remember friends who were had their balls busted for wanting to try out DKC.
Hey I won't be mean to you. Try something like the legend of the mystical ninja or play gooftroop with a friend. Have fun playing a good beat em up or maybe NBA jam.
>Downloads SNES emulator >"Yo! Why ain't this in 4k y'all?? Fr fr no cap this twerked af homie! How y'all play dis shit? On God y'all, this ain't bussin'!"
I feel for your generation.
For me it's not the graphics that make the game unplayable but the UI/UX. Things like how clunky characters move, how annoying menus are etc. A lot of late SNES stuff I'd still gladly play, but a lot of early 3d stuff and most NES stuff is unplayable because of how clunky everything is.
JRPGs yeah but also most platformers/shooters. Mario/Megaman/Contra for NES are still playable today, but there is A LOT of crap action platformers on NES that I wouldn't touch now. Even with those 3, I'd rather play their SNES sequels than the NES ones.
I could see why a zoomer couldnt go back to NES or earlier, but by 16-bit the games were pretty refined and accessible. Even the stuff like RPGs were in really good shape (on console, CRPGs were still pretty inaccessible for the most part).
Your average game was a good deal harder than what you have today but that isnt a bad thing.
[...] >>Link to the Past gives you no direction at points
The game puts fricking everything on the map. You are aware of where your goals are 100% of the time and if you can't reach one, go after another.
Nah, that's not true. I love ALttP, but shit like Zora's Flippers are dumb. The game has great pacing up until a point you have to go out and explore the map so that after a good while you'll find it. OP probably wouldn't have the patience to play any Zelda other than BotW.
No, it's not. You're just a moronic zoomer.
There are many, many SNES games that are timeless and pretty fun even today.
Platformers, RPGs (Shin Megami Tensei, CT, FF4-6, Lufia1-2), games like Bomberman etc.
I was born the week of the NA N64 launch and I can appreciate games from the early 80s if they're good. I even believe Space Invaders from 1979 holds up. I did play some old games when I was young because my dad had some from before I was born but I still had his NES and a MAME USB ever after getting 6th gen systems.
I'm gonna have to disagree there. The SNES was when games as an art form really took off, while NES games and before were functionally closer to toys, although you had a few games that had a more artistic bent like Ninja Gaiden. I think the SNES is easier for zoomers to get into, but AVGN probably got a good number of them into NES games.
>functionally closer to toys
Not really, there are great games in most genres. plus it had a very long lifespan, so more modern games were released in the early 90s
I found NES games appealing due to growing up with the game boy color but wasn't prepared for the difficulty. Gameplay-wise NES games are not very accessible by modern standards and play like arcade games. Something like c64 is pretty alien to me. It is like an extension of pre-video-game crash gaming with none of the gameplay innovations introduced by the NES. Graphically and sonically it rivals the NES but the gameplay is like Atari or something despite having an entire keyboard to read input (I think the c64 struggled to read too many simultaneous inputs rendering the keys pretty much useless aside from programming or text editing).
>Something like c64 is pretty alien to me. It is like an extension of pre-video-game crash gaming with none of the gameplay innovations introduced by the NES. Graphically and sonically it rivals the NES
>while NES games and before were functionally closer to toys >although you had a few games that had a more artistic bent like Ninja Gaiden.
I ask this with complete sincerity: What the frick are you talking about?
>>Link to the Past gives you no direction at points
The game puts fricking everything on the map. You are aware of where your goals are 100% of the time and if you can't reach one, go after another.
Warlords is still one of the best multiplayer videogames ever. If you haven't played it with 4 people you have no idea what you're missing. Bonus points for playing an actual wienertail cabinet. You can be a zoomies or a boomer and enjoy it.
That's because other companies are just porting it straight into the Switch eShop or just remaster/remake them outright so they can gain all the money for themselves. Good, because fricking paying for online.
I don't think my generation would be able to go back and play 2d retro if not for the long life-span of the game boy line of consoles and the litany of ports and original 2d games for those systems. kids who started with 3ds as their first handheld probably can't relate to 2d retro and belong to a separate generation of gamers entirely in my opinion
They can. At some point their favorite YT e-celebs will re-discover retro games and will tell them that Super Mario Bros 3 is a fun game. Also, is not like 2D is an alien concept to them, one of their favorite games is Among Us followed by many top-down games
If you really think the 7th gen was worse than the 8th I feel for you. The 7th gen at least got off to a decent start, it just derailed between 08-10. The 8th gen was pure shit the entire way through and the 9th is looking to continue that trend.
What the frick did a time traveler make this meme? Kids like that haven’t been around for 10 years. Every 23 year old is either an annoying social activist, an incel gamer, or going out and getting fricked up all the time.
I'm glad I did, games of that era were basically autism multipliers, unlocking your true potential by repetitively losing until you finally "get it." Zoom zooms get filtered by difficulty and loss
I can relate to this to some extent. For me it's hard to get invested in the modern video game landscape when I grew up playing games with minimal dialogue instead of glorified interactive movies that almost always overstay their welcome.
There's a big difference between early NES and late NES that might as well have been SNES games like SMB3 and Kirby's Adventure. Though the smooth momentum of SMB1 is what makes that game so timeless.
For me I'm playing ESWAT right now. Holy hell that difficulty spike at stage 5, on the other hand the way the game is making you use your jet pack is great.
Don't let people shit on you lil' zoomie. You're young and current game design philosophy will just feel right to you. Same way that the style of acting will feel right and a movie from the 50s will feel off. People tend to be more open to the context of older media as they age. Eventually you'll understand the post-arcade design that a lot of 8/16-bit games had and you'll approach them on their own terms and like them more.
breath of fire 2 but i would not recommend that to a zoomer. I also love DKC 1 and 2 and umihara kawase (which is probably better than any recent grappling hook game)
Early millennials born in the early 80s have a lot of Gen X qualities, which is why they're sometimes called Xennials. Most millennials weren't even alive when the NES came out though.
im zoomer and while i had a snes i never really played it. i played gameboy and gameboy color as well as PS2 before we eventually got the DS and Wii much later. never had a GBA or PSP, never had a gamecube either. reason being that all my game consoles and what not where usually hand me downs from my uncle and in the case of the gameboys my own mother who was an absolute tetris addict on the gameboy
The only games that aged well are Megaman X and Chrono Trigger. Every single other classic has a future game in the series that's just better in every way. prove me wrong.
Honorable mention for Earthbound, because it will always have its own identity. But the UI, inventory, and the janky field enemy system aged like dogshit
NES was really where it started to be possible to deliver full quality for older Z80 arcade games at home, and the SNES / Genesis was where the aesthetic and gameplay of most 2d games was really set in the early 90s.
This was also the era where PC games started to surpass console game quality, with some really memorable games like Doom, X-Wing, and Sam and Max Hit the Road.
NES is interesting because it was designed for and started as that sort of home Z80 arcade machine experience, but it was so popular and SMB was such a hit that Nintendo expanded it to be capable of far more, with the FDS then mappers.
SMB1 essentially maxed out the capabilities of the system by itself.
How on earth is the SNES too old for you to go back to? It's basically the same thing as a Game Boy Advance which was meant for your childhood
The NES on the other hand is worthless and unplayable by modern standards
Core Millennial, 1990 was the year the most Millennials were born, the 3rd largest birth year, 1st is OG baby boomers, with 2nd place for 2007 late-zoomers, and finally us core Millennials (I am a 1990). We're basically baby boomers 2.0 with 2007 zoomers the 3.0 even if there's more of them than us
Yeah I had a really weird upbringing. I'm in my 20s but at some point in my life I've had to live with
>rotary phones >dial up >antenna tv >cell phones didnt become the norm until I was about 12-13 so I remember calling friends on a rotary phone to hang out >dad was anti internet so on the weekends I would have no internet
People born in the late 90s are in that weird area where they're old enough to have gotten a taste of the pre-iPhone/recession world (before 2008) but young enough that they spent their adolescences in the iPhone world.
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I wish I knew more zoomers to contrast what it was like growing up as them. Seeing toddlers with their own ipads is so fricking weird to me. I'm not even old and I can say "When I was your age we had a 'family computer' that everyone shared"
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I think they're quite lucky to have rose tinted glasses of the pre-internet, pre-iphone era going through it as a kid. As a 1990, I was just old enough to remember the many inconveniences of a rapidly changing world and an adult by the time the iphone was released.
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You think that's weird? Those of us born in the 80s remember a time before the internet, and before computers were a common thing.
When I was a kid there were still people with rotary phones, and nobody I knew had a cell phone.
If you're talking about the Snezz specifically, then no, it's just shit. It was shit back then, too, I'd know because I owned one. Massively overrated because murrilards grew up with it.
It’s the opposite for me, I’m actually really impressed by some of the games I see from the 90s and 2000s and think its incredible what they could do with their hardware limitations
I don't believe zoomers can't get into pixel/2d games, this is obviously just a LARP. Otherwise how have so many indies copying that aesthetic thrived? It can't all be boomer money.
I feel like the GBA is more millennial, it came out in 2001 when millennials were in elementary school and zoomers were babies. It still got games when zoomers were kids though.
The GBA was essentially retired after 2005, but it was still getting licensed crap until 2008, and it was still selling very well in North America in 2007.
3d-wise, I feel like DS was more between N64/PS1 and GCN/PS2 - better than the former, but not quite on par with the latter.
Sprite-wise, I don't know if it's exactly fair to say something is like an SNES title just because it's 16-bit, when you still have that style being used to this day.
I said many, not most. Big difference considering the sheer size to the library. I am talking about games like Chrono Trigger, the two Yoshi games, the DS Kirby games, etc. Pokemon games on DS also used sprites for everything but the environments.
I feel like GBA games are more approachable than the SNES. Basically the same types and graphics but far less jank be it localization or difficulty. Also more familiar brands for normies thanks to all the movie and licensed shit
Our parents experienced first had what was going from black and white tv to color. We got to experience the revolution that was going grom 2d to 3d. What will zoomers get? Will they get to experience anything revolutionary or are they just out of luck and it will be the next generation to witness the next technological leap in visual entertainment?
my first console was an snes, i didnt get to play a lot of games but i can still easily get into them
the ones i cant really get into are the genuinely clunky pieces of shit when games first went 3d
could never get used to the n64 or psx
>gives you no direction at points >the next generation of gamers will never take the initiative, and will be incapable of discovering anything useful without 'GRAB THIS THING' hovering above it. >Frick. a decade ago just the fact something was brightly coloured and slowly spinning a foot off the ground would be enough to make kids piledrive sixty Black folk and climb a fricking mountain of shit to grab it no matter what it did or if they even needed it.
I guess we've finally arrived at that anon's predicted future.
And that's mostly because of modern displays. I took a look at some N64 games on NSO and just turned the thing off after a few first levels. Ugly beyond belief.
Early 3D has to grapple with how they handled cameras and 3D controls. It didn't begin to get more standardized until 6th gen. So only people that are willing to adapt to a lot of early 3D games will tolerate them.
There's people around that think RE4 plays like complete shit because it technically has tank controls and no run and gun.
Some anon many years ago made a valid point about how the XBOX360 control scheme for gears of war basically killed gaming because most games ended up parroting that template.
RE4 with Wii controls is amazing. Its a shame pointer controls were so short lived.
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using a Wii remote actually sounds like an appropriate balance of control and clunkiness for a horror game
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They were done well for RE4 at least.
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The wii version of RE4 is almost too un-clunky for a horror game. Pointer controls are nearly always smooth. Relying on the nunchuk and wiimote accelerometers are clunky.
30 year old here.
Some NES games are hard to play but others are still fun to this day.
Same with the SNES, but I find the games that have aged well to be most of it's known good games. Issue I have with that era is most JRPGs tend to be a walk in the park.
PS1 aged maybe the best with it's titles, I haven't played N64 enough to really say (didn't have one growing up, we were a Sega house)
PS2, Dreamcast, GC era are all still good.
That said, some games I played growing up are a little weird to go back to. Sometimes it's muscle memory, but also the brain has developed. So some games I used to think were hard, long, epic adventures of sacrifice and drama, were all super streamlined, easy affairs with nonsensical plots.
Not really. If a game is genuinely good it is enjoyable despite technological limitations of the time is was made.
Let's say Mario 64 for an example, it is a good platformer game from the early 3D era. The only hurdles are the camera controls being kinda shit and the N64 controller, if you're using one, is pretty fricking bad.
the only generation i cant really go back to is NES and earlier but i bet there are a handful of select NES and earlier titles i could still enjoy. but with SNES and beyond its much more forgiving and i can easily pick up a more obscure game and still get joy out of it. with NES, unless its among the best titles for the platform period im probably not going to bother with it. especially since so many games back then were just arcade ports or inspired by the arcade games so its just a highscore chase that gets boring really quick
Those aren't good examples of obtuse stuff in games. The real obtuse stuff was fun back then though, when you didn't just look stuff up on the internet, and your friend at school would show you a secret that their brother's friend's cousin showed them after they found it by accident
No it's not, get good homosexual. I bought an NES and Battletoads and Ghost N Goblins to show them they're b***hes. I beat Battletoads and am working on Ghost n Goblins, they're both fantastic games and you're a fricking homosexual if you can't enjoy games for what they are. have a nice day.
a majority of NES and SNES games are utter dogshit.
Even a lot of the good ones still have major flaws.
The bad ones are actually terrible games
PS2/GameCube/XBOX era is when the standard of video games got high enough even the shittiest games were still passable as a game.
But before that, games had no standards.
TLOU2 is probably the worst video game of this and the previous generation, and even then it's not bad as anything made by LJN.
NES games are all basic ass shit. You have like only 2 good games: Mario Bros, and Mother.
SNES has way more good games though, like DK country, Shin Megami Tensei I, SMTII, Earthbound, Starfox, etc.
NES had many good games, but most of those are either really short and/or very difficult. SMB3 is still a fantastic game for example (and arguably the best 2D Mario). The Mega Man series is great. Kirby's Adventure is great. Balloon Fight and Wario's Woods are both still very fun.
Most of the first party stuff for the SNES aged well. Super Castlevania IV and the Mega Man X games are still great. Street Fighter II Turbo is still great. Chrono Trigger is still great, albeit short.
There has been shovelware for almost every generation. I think the last consoles to get it really bad though were the DS and Wii.
>PS2/GameCube/XBOX era is when the standard of video games got high enough even the shittiest games were still passable as a game. >But before that, games had no standards.
The only one I'd consider overrated is FF6. That game has the same feverish, cult like mentality as FF7 fans. I just think there's better SNES JRPGs. Like Chrono Trigger.
If you're able to get past the superficial part and understand the game mechanics, then many old games are perfectly playable because they're comparable to modern things, especially when QoL is added as is the case with ports like Doom, Transport Tycoon, Roller Coaster Tycoon, etc.
Very prehistoric things start to get difficult because the ability of games to have a certain sophistication in the mechanics starts to disappear. The NES for example has several puzzles that are totally playable even today (Fire'n Ice, Adventures of Lolo, Wario Woods, Dr. Mario) but the sports games are almost all unplayable (even the fun ones like Blades of Steel get boring quickly because they are too superficial). The difference is that puzzles work even without much hardware sophistication, but sports games don't.
This is your brain on zoomers who grew up with a cell phone in there hand. I'm 37 and grew up with the SNES era but could still appreciate consoles like atari even they were before my time.
What a bizarre and foreign sensation it must be to suddenly experience no hand-holding, micro transactions, always online, THE MESSAGE or hour long cutscenes and instead just get non-stop gameplay.
False
I cherished every moment playing MAME arcade games and they were great
I still emulate consoles and systems with games I never owned/played
I enjoyed decades late CRPGS
and I have my fair share modern games and new ones all the time, several generes, and thematic
we have more than 40 years of videogame history, there's no fricking excuse for zoomshits to run out of good vidya
I played Link's Awakening and several other gameboy games on the Gamecube gb player, it felt just about right.
As long as the d-pad isn't a nasty turd, it'll do.
Playing NES/SNES games with a thumbstick is much better than using a d-pad and takes way the feeling of those games being outdated that people complain about.
Joy stick you have in your hand rather than a thumb stick that you only use your thumb to guide. Radically different. Also the advantage of that controller would be the turbo buttons. NES had a serviceable d-pad, the Genesis and Saturn d-pads were much better.
That stick has minimal travel and only has output in 8 directions. Perfect for digital input. An analog stick is full of dead space that has no bearing on the d-pad input.
I'm in my thirties but seeing how popular retro style indies, mario maker and retrogaming is I think not. I was myself was playing Atari and NES games in the late 90s when they were more than a decade old at this point.
I miss the experience of my mom taking me to the local rental place and I'd play a different SNES game every weekend. It's nice and all that I can just play any game I want at the click of a mouse button, but there's no new memories associated with that, just my middle aged ass soaking an office chair with sweat.
I miss the experience of your mom's tight ass and the sex we had every weekend. It's nice and all that I can just bang any thot I want at the click of a mouse button, but there's no new memories associated with that.
there are metrics on Reddit where the average age has gone SIGNIFICANTLY down. Some years ago Reddit was for millennials in their mid-20s and 30s. Nowadays most users are in their teens and early 20s. I would wager the same is for Ganker.
They're going to watch vtubers. The people complaining about vtubers taking over are actually teenagers or in their early 20s. You can tell by how they call everyone "simps", nobody fricking uses that except the kids.
ZOOMER PROBLEMS
I can beat the superbosses in Kingdom Hearts 1+2 and Splatoon 2's DLC, Master's Battle Set 8 Mysterial in PBR, play Death Wish in Payday 2...and still eat shit at original SMB.
The myth of "Pro Gamers" good at everything is fake. It's learned skillsets, like hard labor vs intellectuals.
No kidding.
This
I have a hard time playing modern games or anything from 2010 to now. Most of it is shit.
they're objectively better than old shit.
Also 2011 was one of the best years for gaming.
What came in 2011 besides Dark Souls?
Minecraft, L.A. Noire, Portal 2, the 3DS, Driver San Francisco, Dead Space 2, Catherine, Skyrim.
In 1991 snes had:
>A Link To The Past
>Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
>Super Castlevania IV
>Final Fantasy IV
>Turtles In Time
>Super R-Type
>Street Fighter II
pre-3D Zelda is ass and turned me off the entire series.
seriously, Zelda one is gay as shit
Okay but ALTTP is not the first Zelda game zoomer. In just its release year snes already had a ton of classic good games come out.
>Super R-Type
That game is just okay.
Yeah because your brain is fried.
Must be hard to see what good games are like when you've been fed slop your whole life.
>it's hard to appreaciate things if you're a brain damaged zoom zoom
Yeah we know
sounds like you're a pleb
Being boomer I can still appreciate classical music, 60's and 70's music. What's your frickinng excuse? they are old too, so by your logic I shouldn't be able to listen to old music nor watch old tv shows.
If you had posted a picture of an NES or 2600, I would agree with you, but SNES basically perfected 2D games. Super Mario World, A Link to the Past, and Final Fantasy VI aren't all that different from the more recent 2D entries in those franchises.
>If you had posted a picture of an NES or 2600, I would agree with you,
I can still get enjoyment from Breakout and I was born in 2000.
Lmao
>Mario, Zelda, the list goes on...
Mega Drive mogged that pile of underclocked shit into next Sunday despite being older. You know you're on Gankerintendo when morons tell you SNES had the better version of Aladdin
Exactly, which is why Nintendo was beaten out of the console business and the Sega Switch is topping every sales chart there is.
spottem gottem
Every nintendo console from the Snes to GC sold less than the one before. Hell the Wii U rivals the Dreamcast for number of sales. Switch is just cribbing from their dead handheld market
>mega drive
only euros and third worlders played that.
literally no one had a gaya drive and if they did they would have been beat up for being gay.
>literally no one had a gaya drive and if they did they would have been beat up for being gay.
False and a larp, Sega had more sports games, Mortal Kombat with blood, and less censorship. Nintendi was seen as middy shit. Older kids played on sega. Not to mention the snes looks like a blocky kids toy. The only reason you hear about the snes more is because people who owned a sega grew out of games in general or moved to PC. Tendies are perpetually in arrested development and never grew up. I remember friends who were had their balls busted for wanting to try out DKC.
>NES or 2600
Those are in no way comporable. The NES plays like the SNES with lower res graphics, the 2600 is just bad arcade ports.
Doesn't help there's a ton of indie games that are just SNES games but better
Get a zoomer to play super mario world and say it's a bad agme
Hey I won't be mean to you. Try something like the legend of the mystical ninja or play gooftroop with a friend. Have fun playing a good beat em up or maybe NBA jam.
>Downloads SNES emulator
>"Yo! Why ain't this in 4k y'all?? Fr fr no cap this twerked af homie! How y'all play dis shit? On God y'all, this ain't bussin'!"
I feel for your generation.
The zoomer slang joke feels old, and annoying.
Where the hell did this come from. Nobody in real life talks like this, and I work in a high school.
>t. zoomer whose first console was the wii
It would make more sense if it was an Atari or n64
No it isn't.
It's really not
For me it's the Sega Genesis
>grow up playing nes/snes ports on the gba/ds
>get to larp as a boomer
it's that easy
For me it's not the graphics that make the game unplayable but the UI/UX. Things like how clunky characters move, how annoying menus are etc. A lot of late SNES stuff I'd still gladly play, but a lot of early 3d stuff and most NES stuff is unplayable because of how clunky everything is.
Unless you're talking about jrpgs I have to disagree
JRPGs yeah but also most platformers/shooters. Mario/Megaman/Contra for NES are still playable today, but there is A LOT of crap action platformers on NES that I wouldn't touch now. Even with those 3, I'd rather play their SNES sequels than the NES ones.
I could see why a zoomer couldnt go back to NES or earlier, but by 16-bit the games were pretty refined and accessible. Even the stuff like RPGs were in really good shape (on console, CRPGs were still pretty inaccessible for the most part).
Your average game was a good deal harder than what you have today but that isnt a bad thing.
2d games are fricking dogshit
I don't understand how you have fun playing on a piece of fricking paper
2D games unironically have a bigger audience now than they did back then, zoomie.
That has to be a bait, everyone plays 2d games still right?
only because us boomllennials can see the garbage modern gaming is, the only modern games with sovl have been mostly 2D indie games
Guessing dis homie didn’t like art class
not really, snes aged incredibly well, snes + emulator is better than most 2022 games.
Yes, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3LY2laM-94A
anything before gen 6 needs a remake
Zoomer here and I unironically get bored and can't get immersed in 2D games
Define depth. Do you mean hundreds of mini quests spread across a huge map or that SNES games lack mechanics that new games have?
>Link to the Past gives you no direction at points
That's not even true.
Nah, that's not true. I love ALttP, but shit like Zora's Flippers are dumb. The game has great pacing up until a point you have to go out and explore the map so that after a good while you'll find it. OP probably wouldn't have the patience to play any Zelda other than BotW.
No, it's not. You're just a moronic zoomer.
There are many, many SNES games that are timeless and pretty fun even today.
Platformers, RPGs (Shin Megami Tensei, CT, FF4-6, Lufia1-2), games like Bomberman etc.
Those games aren't obtuse they're fricking entry level
I was born the week of the NA N64 launch and I can appreciate games from the early 80s if they're good. I even believe Space Invaders from 1979 holds up. I did play some old games when I was young because my dad had some from before I was born but I still had his NES and a MAME USB ever after getting 6th gen systems.
I prefer older games because I'm tired of games becoming more like movies instead of being actual games.
Games lost all their soul when they went to 16 bit and had more than 2 buttons. NES and Master System are the best consoles of all time.
i think zoomers would appreciate the NES more than the SNES. It's more to the point and looks more like indie pixel art
I'm gonna have to disagree there. The SNES was when games as an art form really took off, while NES games and before were functionally closer to toys, although you had a few games that had a more artistic bent like Ninja Gaiden. I think the SNES is easier for zoomers to get into, but AVGN probably got a good number of them into NES games.
>functionally closer to toys
Not really, there are great games in most genres. plus it had a very long lifespan, so more modern games were released in the early 90s
I found NES games appealing due to growing up with the game boy color but wasn't prepared for the difficulty. Gameplay-wise NES games are not very accessible by modern standards and play like arcade games. Something like c64 is pretty alien to me. It is like an extension of pre-video-game crash gaming with none of the gameplay innovations introduced by the NES. Graphically and sonically it rivals the NES but the gameplay is like Atari or something despite having an entire keyboard to read input (I think the c64 struggled to read too many simultaneous inputs rendering the keys pretty much useless aside from programming or text editing).
>Something like c64 is pretty alien to me. It is like an extension of pre-video-game crash gaming with none of the gameplay innovations introduced by the NES. Graphically and sonically it rivals the NES
Musically, far, far superior to NES
>while NES games and before were functionally closer to toys
>although you had a few games that had a more artistic bent like Ninja Gaiden.
I ask this with complete sincerity: What the frick are you talking about?
Ninja Gaiden had cutscenes, which wasn't usual for most NES games.
Cutscenes don't make a game "artistic".
>>Link to the Past gives you no direction at points
The game puts fricking everything on the map. You are aware of where your goals are 100% of the time and if you can't reach one, go after another.
>have to remember dumb fighting games moves for FFVI
>literally too stupid to remember basic inputs like QCF or HCF
Stick to your modern games, little Timmy.
>SNES games have no depth!
>SNES games have too much depth!
wtf it's like the guy is saying moronic shit to get replies
cope
Are we just typing random shit now?
I think part of it is playing on an emulator never feels the same as real hardware
You say that, but throwback games like Undertale were massively liked by zoomies.
Undertale is millennialcore.
Warlords is still one of the best multiplayer videogames ever. If you haven't played it with 4 people you have no idea what you're missing. Bonus points for playing an actual wienertail cabinet. You can be a zoomies or a boomer and enjoy it.
>5 years later
>still a shit list of SNES games on the Switch online
That's because other companies are just porting it straight into the Switch eShop or just remaster/remake them outright so they can gain all the money for themselves. Good, because fricking paying for online.
I don't think my generation would be able to go back and play 2d retro if not for the long life-span of the game boy line of consoles and the litany of ports and original 2d games for those systems. kids who started with 3ds as their first handheld probably can't relate to 2d retro and belong to a separate generation of gamers entirely in my opinion
They can. At some point their favorite YT e-celebs will re-discover retro games and will tell them that Super Mario Bros 3 is a fun game. Also, is not like 2D is an alien concept to them, one of their favorite games is Among Us followed by many top-down games
I think I agree as I grew up in the snes and megadrive generation and was never able to enjoy any games from the NES generation or before.
pic not related. The SNES has plenty of games that have aged gracefully.
Why do Bieber zoomers born in 98 like OP hate everything before they were born?
wii zoomers were a mistake
The 7th gen was the last good generation tee bee aytch.
7th gen is the worst generation.
*8th gen
FTFY
7th.
If you really think the 7th gen was worse than the 8th I feel for you. The 7th gen at least got off to a decent start, it just derailed between 08-10. The 8th gen was pure shit the entire way through and the 9th is looking to continue that trend.
that guy looks like hes 30
No he doesn't, he look 19~23.
jesus christ how terrifying, hes one step away from looking like a grandpa
This post gave me creepy vibes everyone stay away from this anon.
What the frick did a time traveler make this meme? Kids like that haven’t been around for 10 years. Every 23 year old is either an annoying social activist, an incel gamer, or going out and getting fricked up all the time.
Those are some bleak pictures.
SNES games are pretty much the same as a modern indie game. NES games are a bit of a different story though.
That's because you're a fake gamer.
I played ALTTP for the first time in 2006 when I was 21 and I liked it more than BOTW.
It's a classic like reading the hobbit.
I was '98 man, I dont think this is true. I think this applies more to like 2001 and above
I'm glad I did, games of that era were basically autism multipliers, unlocking your true potential by repetitively losing until you finally "get it." Zoom zooms get filtered by difficulty and loss
I can relate to this to some extent. For me it's hard to get invested in the modern video game landscape when I grew up playing games with minimal dialogue instead of glorified interactive movies that almost always overstay their welcome.
I'm an N64 zoomer and I don't have any problems playing SNES games. NES and older is where it starts to get rough though.
NES is current gen compared to "before NES"
There's a big difference between early NES and late NES that might as well have been SNES games like SMB3 and Kirby's Adventure. Though the smooth momentum of SMB1 is what makes that game so timeless.
For me I'm playing ESWAT right now. Holy hell that difficulty spike at stage 5, on the other hand the way the game is making you use your jet pack is great.
Don't know. I had an OG NES as a small kid. I don't play old Atari games at all, but they were pretty simple even compared to old NES games.
Don't let people shit on you lil' zoomie. You're young and current game design philosophy will just feel right to you. Same way that the style of acting will feel right and a movie from the 50s will feel off. People tend to be more open to the context of older media as they age. Eventually you'll understand the post-arcade design that a lot of 8/16-bit games had and you'll approach them on their own terms and like them more.
I routinely get engrossed in games that were made before I was born
What's your favorite SNES games Ganker?
Zombies Ate My Neighbors
Star Fox 2
Wild Guns
Super Mario All Stars
Legend of the musical ninja
Gooftroop
Kirby super star
Chrono trigger
Mario RPG
Yoshi's Island. Literally the game I could play every year and never get bored with it.
Touch fuzzy get dizzy my homie
LTTP or Super Metroid
I'm going to have to agree with this opinion.
Lufia II.
Lagoon was the first epic game I remember
i bought this on the steam sale. i never beat the game but i did get far in the game, the last boss.
A lot of people prefer the genesis version but the SNES version is peak rocket knight for me. That shmup level was fricking kino.
Rocket Knight! I loved that game but got hard-locked at the giant robot fight
Yoshi's Island
Super Metroid
Final Fantasy 5
breath of fire 2 but i would not recommend that to a zoomer. I also love DKC 1 and 2 and umihara kawase (which is probably better than any recent grappling hook game)
My BoF homie
Chrono Trigger
Super Metroid
Dreamland 3
ff6, earthbound, mario world, mario RPG
That'd be Link to the Past. Also 3 is the best Mario, Worldgays need not reply.
>Super Castlevania IV
>Mega Man X
>Terranigma
>Kirby Super Star
>Super Mario World
>Chrono Trigger
2002 anon btw
a link to the past
xardion
super metroid
secret of mana
mechwarrior 3050
Gen Xers grew up on the SNES. Millennials grew up on the Gamecube. Zoomers grew up on the Wii.
Early millenial here. I started on the NES.
Early millennials born in the early 80s have a lot of Gen X qualities, which is why they're sometimes called Xennials. Most millennials weren't even alive when the NES came out though.
>millennials he up on the GameCube
>but not those millennials, they don't count for arbitrary reasons
If anything we can at least compromise that the N64/PS1 would have overlapped with the majority of Millenials as being their consoles.
I think the N64/PS1 were the console a lot of millenials had as kids. Or Saturn if you were cool lmao.
They would have gotten a Cube/Xbox/PS2 as a teenager.
Millennials born in 1991-1994 spent the golden years of their childhoods with the PS2 and Gamecube. They were 8-12 during their peaks.
Some of them become troon?
Lol. I'm a Millennial. I stopped keeping up with video games at 6th gen. I got into video games when Sonic came out.
im zoomer and while i had a snes i never really played it. i played gameboy and gameboy color as well as PS2 before we eventually got the DS and Wii much later. never had a GBA or PSP, never had a gamecube either. reason being that all my game consoles and what not where usually hand me downs from my uncle and in the case of the gameboys my own mother who was an absolute tetris addict on the gameboy
Wtf are you talking about
Millennials grew up on late 8 bit and early 16 bit
Zoomers grew up on late PS2 and early Xbox 360
I was born in 89 I had nes and snes when I was kid
The only games that aged well are Megaman X and Chrono Trigger. Every single other classic has a future game in the series that's just better in every way. prove me wrong.
Honorable mention for Earthbound, because it will always have its own identity. But the UI, inventory, and the janky field enemy system aged like dogshit
Get your regurgitated youtube opinion the frick out of here
>didn't prove me wrong
seethe manlet
>Thinks anyone owes him a debate
Oh nevermind your just a homosexual. Frick off
>you're
also forgot Kirby Superstar, never been a better Kirby since
Well that changes things you're an ok guy
I can back further
Nah Super Mario World and the sequel are still top tier even when compared to today's indieshit pixel platformers.
I will say that I'm a '94 boomer and am slightly biased though
>94 boomer
You have to be 30 or older to join the sip club.
>94 boomer
More like 94 shitter pretending to be in an era he doesn't belong
Just spent half a day playing Thief Gold, you're a tasteless tard if any game released after 1990 is inaccessible to you
>t. post-9/11 subhuman
If you didn’t grow up with them then you aren’t “going back” to them. It’s literally not the same thing.
Pic-unrelated btw. as the SNES isn't old gaming. C64? Maybe, but SNES is newschool vidya.
NES was really where it started to be possible to deliver full quality for older Z80 arcade games at home, and the SNES / Genesis was where the aesthetic and gameplay of most 2d games was really set in the early 90s.
This was also the era where PC games started to surpass console game quality, with some really memorable games like Doom, X-Wing, and Sam and Max Hit the Road.
NES is interesting because it was designed for and started as that sort of home Z80 arcade machine experience, but it was so popular and SMB was such a hit that Nintendo expanded it to be capable of far more, with the FDS then mappers.
SMB1 essentially maxed out the capabilities of the system by itself.
It's not. Your brain has been rotted from too much advertising and social media.
If nobody on social media is talking about the product you're consuming what is even the point of consuming it?
No reason at all go post about this post. Smash that bell too.
How on earth is the SNES too old for you to go back to? It's basically the same thing as a Game Boy Advance which was meant for your childhood
The NES on the other hand is worthless and unplayable by modern standards
the first video games i played was on the NES. i for one have no interest in playing anything older than NES so maybe OP has a point
'92
WHAT AM I? MILLENIAL? XOOMER?
Core Millennial, 1990 was the year the most Millennials were born, the 3rd largest birth year, 1st is OG baby boomers, with 2nd place for 2007 late-zoomers, and finally us core Millennials (I am a 1990). We're basically baby boomers 2.0 with 2007 zoomers the 3.0 even if there's more of them than us
I feel bad for all the kids born in 2007 who will never know a world without iPhones. Early zoomers are the only good ones.
my brother is a 1997 early-zoomer, I say he's like a zoomllennial, one of the most based inbetween generations while I'm a core Millennial at 1990
Yeah I had a really weird upbringing. I'm in my 20s but at some point in my life I've had to live with
>rotary phones
>dial up
>antenna tv
>cell phones didnt become the norm until I was about 12-13 so I remember calling friends on a rotary phone to hang out
>dad was anti internet so on the weekends I would have no internet
Being a zoomllennial is weird
People born in the late 90s are in that weird area where they're old enough to have gotten a taste of the pre-iPhone/recession world (before 2008) but young enough that they spent their adolescences in the iPhone world.
I wish I knew more zoomers to contrast what it was like growing up as them. Seeing toddlers with their own ipads is so fricking weird to me. I'm not even old and I can say "When I was your age we had a 'family computer' that everyone shared"
I think they're quite lucky to have rose tinted glasses of the pre-internet, pre-iphone era going through it as a kid. As a 1990, I was just old enough to remember the many inconveniences of a rapidly changing world and an adult by the time the iphone was released.
You think that's weird? Those of us born in the 80s remember a time before the internet, and before computers were a common thing.
When I was a kid there were still people with rotary phones, and nobody I knew had a cell phone.
hey he's just like me but I'm 1993
If you're talking about the Snezz specifically, then no, it's just shit. It was shit back then, too, I'd know because I owned one. Massively overrated because murrilards grew up with it.
Shoo shoo, back to /vr/ auster
kek fricking moronic take from a shit-for-brains contrarian. That seems to be 90% of the content on this board....
It’s the opposite for me, I’m actually really impressed by some of the games I see from the 90s and 2000s and think its incredible what they could do with their hardware limitations
Maybe ps1 and N64 but the old 2D games aged well
I don't believe zoomers can't get into pixel/2d games, this is obviously just a LARP. Otherwise how have so many indies copying that aesthetic thrived? It can't all be boomer money.
Not really
t. born in 2000
Weren't the GBA and many DS titles practically SNES games in terms of graphics? Both consoles are essentially zoomer-core.
I feel like the GBA is more millennial, it came out in 2001 when millennials were in elementary school and zoomers were babies. It still got games when zoomers were kids though.
The GBA was essentially retired after 2005, but it was still getting licensed crap until 2008, and it was still selling very well in North America in 2007.
3d-wise, I feel like DS was more between N64/PS1 and GCN/PS2 - better than the former, but not quite on par with the latter.
Sprite-wise, I don't know if it's exactly fair to say something is like an SNES title just because it's 16-bit, when you still have that style being used to this day.
I said many, not most. Big difference considering the sheer size to the library. I am talking about games like Chrono Trigger, the two Yoshi games, the DS Kirby games, etc. Pokemon games on DS also used sprites for everything but the environments.
I feel like GBA games are more approachable than the SNES. Basically the same types and graphics but far less jank be it localization or difficulty. Also more familiar brands for normies thanks to all the movie and licensed shit
Most of the games were shit. It's worth looking back to see what was good. But you don't have to play them all.
Our parents experienced first had what was going from black and white tv to color. We got to experience the revolution that was going grom 2d to 3d. What will zoomers get? Will they get to experience anything revolutionary or are they just out of luck and it will be the next generation to witness the next technological leap in visual entertainment?
Out of luck. They can't even say they're the first ones to witness demakes because we got Super Mario All-Stars and MGS TTS.
SNES is easier than early 3D shit
99% of games in the late '90s were disgustingly ugly and it didn't let up until late PS2 era.
Just grow up playing old games with your dad as a kid homosexual lmao
my first console was an snes, i didnt get to play a lot of games but i can still easily get into them
the ones i cant really get into are the genuinely clunky pieces of shit when games first went 3d
could never get used to the n64 or psx
>gives you no direction at points
>the next generation of gamers will never take the initiative, and will be incapable of discovering anything useful without 'GRAB THIS THING' hovering above it.
>Frick. a decade ago just the fact something was brightly coloured and slowly spinning a foot off the ground would be enough to make kids piledrive sixty Black folk and climb a fricking mountain of shit to grab it no matter what it did or if they even needed it.
I guess we've finally arrived at that anon's predicted future.
Only the early 3D era (N64, PS1) is hard to get into if you didn't grow up with it.
And that's mostly because of modern displays. I took a look at some N64 games on NSO and just turned the thing off after a few first levels. Ugly beyond belief.
Nah they were always ugly compared to SNES/Genesis/VGA. Without a sense of innovation carrying them early 3D was just a fricking abomination.
It wasn't all bad, look at Megaman Legends.
Early 3D has to grapple with how they handled cameras and 3D controls. It didn't begin to get more standardized until 6th gen. So only people that are willing to adapt to a lot of early 3D games will tolerate them.
There's people around that think RE4 plays like complete shit because it technically has tank controls and no run and gun.
Some anon many years ago made a valid point about how the XBOX360 control scheme for gears of war basically killed gaming because most games ended up parroting that template.
RE4 doesn't have bad controls for what it is, but that doesn't mean I think it's fun to control at all
RE4 with Wii controls is amazing. Its a shame pointer controls were so short lived.
using a Wii remote actually sounds like an appropriate balance of control and clunkiness for a horror game
They were done well for RE4 at least.
The wii version of RE4 is almost too un-clunky for a horror game. Pointer controls are nearly always smooth. Relying on the nunchuk and wiimote accelerometers are clunky.
Black person i was born in 2002 and all i play is old games sounds like ur just a pleb
30 year old here.
Some NES games are hard to play but others are still fun to this day.
Same with the SNES, but I find the games that have aged well to be most of it's known good games. Issue I have with that era is most JRPGs tend to be a walk in the park.
PS1 aged maybe the best with it's titles, I haven't played N64 enough to really say (didn't have one growing up, we were a Sega house)
PS2, Dreamcast, GC era are all still good.
That said, some games I played growing up are a little weird to go back to. Sometimes it's muscle memory, but also the brain has developed. So some games I used to think were hard, long, epic adventures of sacrifice and drama, were all super streamlined, easy affairs with nonsensical plots.
Not really. If a game is genuinely good it is enjoyable despite technological limitations of the time is was made.
Let's say Mario 64 for an example, it is a good platformer game from the early 3D era. The only hurdles are the camera controls being kinda shit and the N64 controller, if you're using one, is pretty fricking bad.
The original NES Ninja Gaiden titles have tighter gameplay than a lot of modern indies.
the only generation i cant really go back to is NES and earlier but i bet there are a handful of select NES and earlier titles i could still enjoy. but with SNES and beyond its much more forgiving and i can easily pick up a more obscure game and still get joy out of it. with NES, unless its among the best titles for the platform period im probably not going to bother with it. especially since so many games back then were just arcade ports or inspired by the arcade games so its just a highscore chase that gets boring really quick
Those aren't good examples of obtuse stuff in games. The real obtuse stuff was fun back then though, when you didn't just look stuff up on the internet, and your friend at school would show you a secret that their brother's friend's cousin showed them after they found it by accident
Incorrect.
I was born in '91 and played this in late 2010.
every zoomer I know only emulates 6th gen games and up, has anyone else noticed? I was born in '99 and only really have an interest in snes and ps1
is there any contribution to culture by zoomers? literally anything?
no, cringe Tiktok videos isn't a positive.
you're expecting teenagers to have a significant influence on culture?
if tiktok is any indication it's a worthless generation
Luckily the worth of a generation comes after they've stopped being hormonal dipshits.
even zoomer teens, all they do is use rap talk and use shitty perm haircuts.
No it's not, get good homosexual. I bought an NES and Battletoads and Ghost N Goblins to show them they're b***hes. I beat Battletoads and am working on Ghost n Goblins, they're both fantastic games and you're a fricking homosexual if you can't enjoy games for what they are. have a nice day.
Black person what
if a game is good you play it and have fun
a majority of NES and SNES games are utter dogshit.
Even a lot of the good ones still have major flaws.
The bad ones are actually terrible games
PS2/GameCube/XBOX era is when the standard of video games got high enough even the shittiest games were still passable as a game.
But before that, games had no standards.
TLOU2 is probably the worst video game of this and the previous generation, and even then it's not bad as anything made by LJN.
NES games are all basic ass shit. You have like only 2 good games: Mario Bros, and Mother.
SNES has way more good games though, like DK country, Shin Megami Tensei I, SMTII, Earthbound, Starfox, etc.
NES had many good games, but most of those are either really short and/or very difficult. SMB3 is still a fantastic game for example (and arguably the best 2D Mario). The Mega Man series is great. Kirby's Adventure is great. Balloon Fight and Wario's Woods are both still very fun.
Most of the first party stuff for the SNES aged well. Super Castlevania IV and the Mega Man X games are still great. Street Fighter II Turbo is still great. Chrono Trigger is still great, albeit short.
There has been shovelware for almost every generation. I think the last consoles to get it really bad though were the DS and Wii.
There are a lot of arcade ports that should never be played on SNES like Street Fighter, MAME is 1000x better than shit ports even on real hardware
>PS2/GameCube/XBOX era is when the standard of video games got high enough even the shittiest games were still passable as a game.
>But before that, games had no standards.
have fun spending 80 dollars to play Doctor Jekyll, anon. I'll be enjoying my early 2000s cringekino
>My garbage is better than your garbage
Not the most compelling argument.
Frick zoomers
The only one I'd consider overrated is FF6. That game has the same feverish, cult like mentality as FF7 fans. I just think there's better SNES JRPGs. Like Chrono Trigger.
>there
I really do love how shit you’ve made this board after the rule change, thanks for that
If you're able to get past the superficial part and understand the game mechanics, then many old games are perfectly playable because they're comparable to modern things, especially when QoL is added as is the case with ports like Doom, Transport Tycoon, Roller Coaster Tycoon, etc.
Very prehistoric things start to get difficult because the ability of games to have a certain sophistication in the mechanics starts to disappear. The NES for example has several puzzles that are totally playable even today (Fire'n Ice, Adventures of Lolo, Wario Woods, Dr. Mario) but the sports games are almost all unplayable (even the fun ones like Blades of Steel get boring quickly because they are too superficial). The difference is that puzzles work even without much hardware sophistication, but sports games don't.
ITT: Zoomers who've played five games made before 1996 tell you how bad the SNES and NES were.
Zoomers don't play older games to properly gauge their depth. They just see the graphics and go "ew".
>using a screenshot from the very first level
i tried playing this just now on my shitch and the shooting is trash
That's what power-ups are for.
This is your brain on zoomers who grew up with a cell phone in there hand. I'm 37 and grew up with the SNES era but could still appreciate consoles like atari even they were before my time.
What a bizarre and foreign sensation it must be to suddenly experience no hand-holding, micro transactions, always online, THE MESSAGE or hour long cutscenes and instead just get non-stop gameplay.
my little nephew fricking LOVES his snes mini
I jailbroke that shit and slaped 130 roms in it
good vidya is good vidya for ever
False
I cherished every moment playing MAME arcade games and they were great
I still emulate consoles and systems with games I never owned/played
I enjoyed decades late CRPGS
and I have my fair share modern games and new ones all the time, several generes, and thematic
we have more than 40 years of videogame history, there's no fricking excuse for zoomshits to run out of good vidya
emulators don't feel the same without a similar feeling controller, don't play SNES shit with a PS4/Xbox pad
I played Link's Awakening and several other gameboy games on the Gamecube gb player, it felt just about right.
As long as the d-pad isn't a nasty turd, it'll do.
Playing NES/SNES games with a thumbstick is much better than using a d-pad and takes way the feeling of those games being outdated that people complain about.
The only time I'd use a stick is if it's an isometric game. Otherwise the d-pad is always better.
Even back then people knew a stick was better.
Did you know there's nothing stopping you from just screwing off that ball top, it threads right off. Try it out on your own controller.
Joy stick you have in your hand rather than a thumb stick that you only use your thumb to guide. Radically different. Also the advantage of that controller would be the turbo buttons. NES had a serviceable d-pad, the Genesis and Saturn d-pads were much better.
That stick has minimal travel and only has output in 8 directions. Perfect for digital input. An analog stick is full of dead space that has no bearing on the d-pad input.
>didn't grow up with a lot of older games, just played what was current at the time I played it
>still prefer them to 90% of anything made after 2010
My sister is 21 and her fondest gaming console is the PSP. She used to play Portable OPs plus online. Is that common for zoomers to like the PSP?
Yeah I downloaded tons of ISOs and it was safer and easier than pirating PC games back in the day
Not my problem zoomertrash.
I'm in my thirties but seeing how popular retro style indies, mario maker and retrogaming is I think not. I was myself was playing Atari and NES games in the late 90s when they were more than a decade old at this point.
Your OP pic is inaccurate, fixed it for you
I miss the experience of my mom taking me to the local rental place and I'd play a different SNES game every weekend. It's nice and all that I can just play any game I want at the click of a mouse button, but there's no new memories associated with that, just my middle aged ass soaking an office chair with sweat.
I miss the experience of your mom's tight ass and the sex we had every weekend. It's nice and all that I can just bang any thot I want at the click of a mouse button, but there's no new memories associated with that.
The shift in consciousness propelling us towards fourth density has made more obsolete the necessity of quick reflexes for survival.
there are metrics on Reddit where the average age has gone SIGNIFICANTLY down. Some years ago Reddit was for millennials in their mid-20s and 30s. Nowadays most users are in their teens and early 20s. I would wager the same is for Ganker.
Where are the boomers going? Is there a secret oldgay chan?
They're going to watch vtubers. The people complaining about vtubers taking over are actually teenagers or in their early 20s. You can tell by how they call everyone "simps", nobody fricking uses that except the kids.
That is highly disturbing if true.
Also disturbing, though less so.
I doubt it. ResetEra's average age for its userbase is 30+, GameFAQs is around there too. Reddit and twitter seem full of millennials.
It's a bit long but it's interesting and even mainstream, while calling a conspiracy, sees some truth in it.
Feel eternally lucky that Nintendo ported a lot of their Snes games forward to GBA. I would’ve missed several of my favorite games ever
I found the beginning of links awakening to be moronic obtuse.