It's so fricking good. I dare say it, the magnum opus of 32-bit action games.
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It's so fricking good. I dare say it, the magnum opus of 32-bit action games.
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I agree.
Overrated when Klonoa exists.
>muh obscure hidden gem!
shut up gay nobody cares
Ok casual (homo)
2 is better, 1 was a nice proof of concept but that's it.
it's not obscure at all
Compared to Crash it is
Leh obscire when compared to muh forgotten platformer
Holy kek
I would agree but 5th gen? No the frick they didnt, Lmao!
Give me your most KINO arcade beat em ups
pleb, 1 had much better atmosphere
>atmosphere
you have to be a zoomer obsessed with liminal spaces and such. people back then cared more about gameplay and fun than vibes
no i just have taste. otherwise there's nothing to complain about with the remakes according to you
>people back then cared more about gameplay and fun than vibes
If this was the case survival horror games wouldn't be popular. But yeah, anyway, 1 has much better gameplay than 2 if you are going for 100%. 2 and 3 are just fricking ridiculous when it comes to full completion and I'd take 1 over them any day
t. obsessed, forest for the trees etc.
>easier game = fun gameplay
jump out of a window NOWNOWNOWNOWNOWNOW
>harder game = better game
yet you aren't compulsively playing arcade and nes games, curious
But I do
proofs?
More like Cloaca.
I find it really boring after a few minutes. All you do is run in a straight line and collect apples and jump occasionally
you also get to ride a boar (twice)
twice? That's crazy
the second time, it's actually optional
Ugh, I KNOW!. Like i finna want an open world where u can like climb towers and like glide around and like follow waypoints and just EXPLORE, y'know bro?. Bro, u feelin me rn?.
It's just an hugolike
I don't get these games. this shit is what made me avoid looking at this generation entirely since recently. there are so many better action games on PS1 but scrimblo blimbo is called the best because it's all "old gays" knew about during the 90s while everything else was ignored.
Don't care about 32 bit vs 16 bit or anything like that, if it's a PS1/N64/Saturn 3D action game that's all that matters as far as comparisons go.
there are so many 3d games id rather play before any of these platformers it's crazy people still act like they're the best just for nostalgia reasons. whats better hopping around and spinning or flying around as a transforming robot blowing up enemies in a sci-fi metropolis
or shooting aliens on a giant alien planet. it's not even close
Because I like certain things on different days.
If Sony didn't push Crash Bandicoot as their mascot so hard so everyone bought the game at the time then most people would probably think it's a pretty boring game. Like Sonic is pretty boring too really
The game is good, but yeah the whole package is an extremely corporate product designed to be as marketable as it can be. I think Sony even got ChiatDay to run the ad campaign
>ChiatDay
they did. had them for FFVII, Bloody Road, and GT2 as well. They also did the Taco Bell chihuahua at the that time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TBWA%5CChiat%5CDay
I wish modern corporate games were as fun, beautiful and creative as Crash.
le new bad le old good
grow up already homosexual
>le
Grow up already homosexual
>Like Sonic is pretty boring too really
Oh no it's moronic
Different people like different things.
What I don't understand as a big 3D platformer fan is why anybody likes Banjo-Kazooie. That game is just actually shit.
Is Spyro good? it's the one retro platformer I've considered playing. It's got cool attacks like flame breath
The first one is an amazing, pretty much perfect game, the other two are bloated but still fun. The games that came after the classic trilogy can be skipped.
I like how laid back the game is in general, but does force you to think a bit every now and then. This old review is pretty spot on.
>Aquanaut's Holiday and Tail of the Sun mentioned
This guy knows what's up
Simple and kinda unchallenging for adults but the visuals, stages and music have a lot of soul so it is pretty good if you just wanna chill out while playing something with a very nostalgic air.
you're right. I've never heard of this game but it looks fun as hell. You'd have to be crazy to think any scrimblo platformer is better than this. I don't often put stock in claims of nostalgia goggles skewing perceptions of games but in the case of 3d platformers it's 100% true.
>in the case of 3d platformers it's 100% true.
It's really just Crash. Plenty of 3D platformers from gen 5 hold up, and I say this as someone who didn't play many growing up.
Pretty sure you can beat the worlds in Sunshine in one pass.
I don't really get comparing things so obviously in two different genres.
they're both 3d action games. there are 3d action games where you go around a detailed realized world and use awesome weapons to take on a powerful enemy force in an epic story/adventure and then there's platformers where everything is designed around, first and foremost, jumping from square block to square block and and every single enemy with the exact same attack.
It's like saying a minivan and a Porsche are different genres, they are but one is still obviously and dramatically better in every way.
the thread calls Crash the best 32 bit action game when honestly unless you really really love jumping from block to block it shouldn't even be on an unbiased person's list at all. It's like comparing Neopets with World of Warcraft. There is nothing good about those kind of mascot platformers past the age of 9, they're good for kids anyone else is kidding themselves or autistic. The only exception for platformers is new more complex ones like Penny's Big Break(sp?) or Pseudo regalia, stuff like that.
I think you're putting too much stock in a guaranteed replies OP.
>saying good game is good is considered a highly controversial subject on /vr/
I'm aware not many agree with me on this board but I just had to say something and see what people have to say because I really can't see how any platformer could be better than an action game with actually varied gameplay aimed at audiences over the age of 12. I know there are games kids enjoy that are great but retro 3d platformers ain't it.
>the boom boom game is better than the rodent box game even though they have nothing in common
I think you can have fun with both. Simplistic gameplay doesn't necessarily make it a bad game. Crash might be a bit overrated even but it still is a well executed scrimblo. Sometimes running in a straight line, hopping on some boxes is all you want from a game.
I mean I played both crash and silent bomber in the 90's and while sb has remained as one of my all time favorites, I can still see the fun in something simple and straightforward as crash.
I'm gonna try Spyro. I will see. it looks kinda cool, I like dragons.
I like to play a lil smash brandi's cooch from time to time.
The only thing I genuinely hate is the gems system. Going through a level carefully and getting all of the boxes just to find halfway into it and sometimes at the very end the game going
>lol, you need to find a gem to get all the boxes in this stage
Was pretty shit.
Is Spyro 1 the only collectathon that allows you to clear any level on your first go? Even Mario 64 had those obnoxious switches from SMW
warped is better just for the spyro demo
Not many ps1 games aged as well as Crash.
Crash exists because there wasn't a 3D Sonic game in the mid-90s, so he ate their lunch.
I wonder how Sega felt when Crash just utterly demolished Nights. They probably stopped looking down on the gaijin that day.
Nights is pretty shit I don't know what the obsession is with it. You just go through rings like Superman 64 but in 2D.
Nights only has fans due to its ties with Sonic and Yuji Naka, I don't think anyone genuinely loves that crap.
Crappy physics and uninspired platforming hazards so not a lot of potential to make interesting levels.
Spyro is better
Must be a really low bar then. I'll stick to my 6th gen hack n slashes.
I really liked it, despite being total dogshit at it. Never played any of the sequels though.
mario 64 has a shit ton of rom hacks
why doesnt crash
Crash 2 has a few cool ones
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You can only edit chunks in a particular level, imagine if the editor lets you make new geometry.
The PS1 is much harder to rom hack than the N64 from what I've heard.
Mario 64 also just has more dedicated fans, pretty much everyone who had a N64 had it. Meanwhile though Crash was very successful, it's not too unvelievable for a PS1 owner to not have Crash.
>Mario 64 also just has more dedicated fans, pretty much everyone who had a N64 had it. Meanwhile though Crash was very successful, it's not too unvelievable for a PS1 owner to not have Crash.
if you were a psx kid you either had crash, spyro, or both. so you'd figure thered be more hacks out there for these games than there are
>if you were a psx kid you either had crash, spyro, or both
Nah, someone who's into Driver, Gran Turismo, MGS or Tekken isn't necessarily into cartoony platformers like Crash and Spyro
If you had a N64 on the other hand it's pretty much guaranteed that you had autism so Mario is the way to go
2 and 3 are better. Plus crash 1 was too hard for me as a kid, so I couldn't properly enjoy it.
I fricking hate Naughty Dog and Crash is just as much of a ND game as TLoU. Safe, cynically designed gameplay but since it has high production values it's the GOTYAY
If you read that Crash history blog from 10 years ago you'll see paragraph after paragraph about how they squeezed every last drop of power from the PS1, from baking occlusion maps for every possible camera position to considering the physical location of assets on the disc, but all it has to say about the gameplay is "we took Sonic and flipped it 90 degrees"
>ND
>TLoU
>GOTYAY
What the FRICK are you saying?
It's how critics and normies see it. ND doesn't add anything to their games unless it's been thoroughly market-tested and it shows in how acclaimed they are.
NTA but he's saying:
>ND
Naughty Dog
>TLoU
The Last of Us
>GOTYAY
Game of the year all years
Yeah but unlike TLoU it's actually fun to play. Someone post that Neil Druckmann quote about the word 'fun' I'm too lazy
You're not wrong.
Crash is the 90s equivalent of TLoU, uninspired gameplay outclassed by most of its peers but gets all the praise due to secondary shit like the graphics.
wrong on both counts. you can hate them but their peers being 3d platformers in the 90s and console ots shooters, most and outclassed is a big ask.
thank you, I get the same impression. Japanese devs are coming up with these super innovative gameplay styles with 3D environments implemented in inspired, low cost ways, and then Naughty dog comes along and makes some of the most basic gameplay ever with some of the highest resources cost. Has America always been the land of resolution>everything? I would say graphics but it's not like they actually get exceptional graphics out of their graphics demands. they often had very high resolution models of simplistic objects
Crash 2 & 3 are better
ooh ooh ooh
Haha I never thought Crash was very fun. I liked Spyro way more.
>Donkey Kong Country in 3D
it's Ok
Donkey Kong Country is way more fun than Crash.
it's ok
Yeah, I don't think DKC is an absolute top-tier game. I just think it's way more fun than Crash.
I just think they're ok, 2D or 3D, they're fine.
DKC's level design and sense of momentum utterly destroys Crash 1.
Overrated crap with shit hit detection and pseudo 3d perspective that ruins some platforming sections. Even Snes platformers blow it out of the water.
Fellating Crash is the biggest sign you shouldn't trust that person's opinion.
CTR is better, and Crash Bash is great too (if you play with other people)
CTR is unironically the best game in the series and a genuinely amazing ps1 game.
I'm replaying it for the first time now after I typed that, and it really holds up. It wasnt just the nostalgia talking. The game mechanics feel real good, and it looks great too.
Amazing that this is a 25 year old game
Anything mario, anything sonic, DKC trilogy, Klonoa (better than the entire series), Tomba, I'd even say Rayman if you can stomach the difficulty.
And yeah same deal with 3d platformers. SM64, Jumping Flash, Ape Escape are wayyy better and only Mario gets any credit most of the time.
Crash is just a very unconvincing attempt at both 2d and 3d.
I can see the appeal of some of the 3d stuff but then you have the shitty perspective on some levels
>anything sonic
no. 3d sonic is a mess
>dkc trilogy
apples and bowlingballs
>klona
cute game
>tomba
[fan excited to play game for first time]
>i'd even say rayman
ok
>assmad weebs samegayging ITT
The Crash series was popular and sold well, because the games are solidly built and damn fun. It's that simple. Crash 2 and CTR both have tight control, well-thought out mechanics, and the pace almost never bogs down. They didn't offer anything novel; they just polished up the most basic platforming/kart racing fundamentals and wrapped them up with high production values. Crash 1 is more polarizing due to its stiff 3D controls, awkward save system, and unforgiving gems. It was also a little bare bones in terms of mechanics. But that's not reflective of the rest of the series, because all these issues were addressed in 2.
>Kektendo and Rayman
>Weebs
Stop being moronic, crashbro. Rayman 3d SHITS on crash anyday of the week. There's a reason naughtydog changed their image in the 6th-7th gen
It might have to do with the original israelites leaving ND during that time, and being replaced by a much worse israelite.
It's a pretty good translation of Mario/DKC, in 3D. And as far as I'm concerned, in context, that's a way better thing than basically all the competition, Mario 64 aside. Crash Bandicoot 1 is a well-made classic that came at the right time. Enough said.
Ubisoft changed much more. What's your point?
6th-7 gen Ubisoft was lierally no different than previous ubisoft and they still released good games.
It's crazy how hard CTR mogs every other kart racer
Spyro was that to me. I guess the more slow and exploration based gameplay was more my taste.
But frick me if I ever seen better level design after Spyro and PS2 Ratchet, I think nothing even came close.