One thing I really like about Dante and Vergil’s characterizations in contrast to one another is that at first glance, you would think that the more prim and focused Vergil would be the more responsible one when Dante is the party-crazy dude but in reality it’s the opposite. When things get rough, Dante is able to keep cool under pressure and take the situation seriously while Vergil gets easily irritated if things don’t go exactly his way. The one scene in DMC3 where he’s getting pissy when his blood isn’t enough to activate the portal is an excellent example. Dante shows enough savvy and maturity to save enough money to start his own business and get his own place while in his teens while Vergil just meaninglessly wandered around trying to seek power, even having a one-night stand in the process and conceiving Nero. While Dante initially struggled when trying to reconcile his human and demon sides, he eventually learns to accept these aspects of himself and becomes better off for it while Vergil had to literally split himself in half in order to finally cope with his trauma.
I just think it’s a really neat bit of characterization that goes a long way in fleshing these two out.
Yeah, I always liked that aspect too. Don’t forget about how the latter half of DMC3 is fueled by Vergil acting like a seething manchild when he doesn’t get what he wants.
>Vergil just meaninglessly wandered around trying to seek power, even having a one-night stand in the process and conceiving Nero.
I love how Dante even mocks him about this in 5.
One anon once described Vergil as "that moronic brother who keeps signing up for get rich quick schemes and getting scammed on crypto but you don't disown him because he can't help it" and I think fits him to a tee.
Dante and Vergil are the logical conclusions of what a power fantasy is like. On paper they're simply who you would be if you didn't have human limitations. They both go through the same trauma but they cope in opposite ways according to them being superhumans.
Dante just fricks around without doing anything because he can afford it. It's even become a running joke that he lets his enemy stab him because he can just shrug it off. He's completely detached from the world so as to never have to lose anyone again or be responsible for anyone's loss. He has very few relationships and most of them (Vergil, Nero, Trish) are directly tied to his family. He never talks about what he's really feeling and he hasn't had put a family together.
Vergil chose the other extreme. Vergil is a superhuman, so to him, being so powerful no one could ever frick with him again is a real possibility. Unlike Dante, Vergil is presented as being also untouchable. His fighting style and character are all about being quick and to the point but simultaneously overwhelming; like swatting a bug in annoyance. He's driven, but impatient. He has a kid, but he probably didn't even stay long enough to know about it. Whereas Dante's strength comes from within himself, Vergil's comes from without, from his desire for absolute control and dominance.
Dante seems kind of depressed but not in the suicidal kind, rather the unemployed friend who's been sitting on his ass for so long his life has lost all meaning and is doomed to spend his life loitering because he doesn't have the drive to go back to the real world.
I'd correct you because DMC3 is all about how Lady, Vergil, and Dante cope with their trauma and loss. You're right about Vergil where he obsesses about obtaining power to an unhealthy degree, which causes his destruction. But Dante learns to cope better from seeing Lady and learning what matters from her. After her boss fight, he says that she showed him what's really important (family, justice, doing what's right). Rather than running from his problems, ignoring them, or laughing them off, he stops Arkham and faces Vergil to fulfil what his father fought for, because it's the right thing to do and it involves him confronting and fixing his trauma. Similarly, Lady learns from Dante to let go of her anger, because she observed how he handled his own trauma and he showed her that she was becoming a monster from her obsession with revenge.
You can take it a step further because Arkham/Jester are meant to represent the two extremes of Dante and Vergil were to go even further in each direction. It's why Jester is red and blue, and Arkham has red-blue heterochromia.
DMC3 is all about coping with trauma, and how you need to rely on the support of others to overcome it. Dante and Lady learn from each other and are healthier because of it, Vergil withdraws into himself and refuses Dante's help when he jumps into hell. DMC3 is decisively the point where Dante learns to embrace his humanity and his place as the Son of Sparda (which means loving people, showing his heart, and protecting humanity). The final little sign is when he cries, showing that he's a human and not a devil.
I'd correct you because DMC1 is all about how Trish, Mundus, and Dante cope with their trauma and loss. You're right about Mundus where he obsesses about obtaining power to an unhealthy degree, which causes his destruction. But Dante learns to cope better from seeing Trish and learning what matters from her. After her boss fight, he says that she showed him what's really important (family, justice, doing what's right). Rather than running from his problems, ignoring them, or laughing them off, he stops Nightmare and faces Mundus to fulfil what his father fought for, because it's the right thing to do and it involves him confronting and fixing his trauma. Similarly, Trish learns from Dante to let go of her anger, because she observed how he handled his own trauma and he showed her that she was becoming a monster from her obsession with revenge.
You can take it a step further because Nelo/Nero Angelo are meant to represent the two extremes of Dante and Vergil were to go even further in each direction. It's why Nelo is red and blue, and Shadow has red-blue heterochromia.
DMC1 is all about coping with trauma, and how you need to rely on the support of others to overcome it. Dante and Trish learn from each other and are healthier because of it, Mundus withdraws into himself and refuses Dante's help when he jumps into hell. DMC1 is decisively the point where Dante learns to embrace his humanity and his place as the Son of Sparda (which means loving people, showing his heart, and protecting humanity). The final little sign is when he cries, showing that he's a dark soul with light and not a devil never cry.
The daughter Dante will inevitably have in DMC VI because its the current year and we need a strong, independent, white-haired Sparda femMC otherwise the game will literally be sexist, racist, transphobic and homophobic.
Why would they do this? They already got a MILF, a Southern israeliteess and a tomboy, any more women would be unironically too much.
If you ask me about fulfilling "muh diversity" they should just make Morisson a playable character next game, and give him tank controls to make him feel completely different from everyone else.
Dante might be one of the coolest and best Vidya characters, so him. He's got a lot of fun characterization over the games. >how he snaps from cracking jokes to showing tender, genuine concern for Trish in V, showing how much he cares about her >the way he talks to Lady in the cutscene after her boss fight, trying to set her at ease and letting her know that she taught him what matters >the way Lady and Trish act in later games is CLEARLY influenced by Dante because his humanity saved them from themselves >the way he seems to immediately understand who Nero is and is entirely willing to trust him with the Yamato and give him the support he knew Vergil always needed >reaches out for Vergil as he falls into Hell >Vergil turns his back on the painting of their family when he splits himself in two to reject his humanity, Dante looks up to his family when he impales himself to embrace what he is
Dante is the whacky woohoo pizza man meme, but he's a lot more than that and I like when they show his humanity. The entire point of the series is that that humanity and heart is what makes him so much stronger than every other demon, just like Sparda.
The parts where he shows that he's a good person with a good heart are just as important as him engaging with Agnus's Shakespeare shit.
>The entire point of the series is that humanity and heart is what makes him so much stronger than every other demon, just like Sparda
Wasn't it semi-confirmed in V (with how the Qlipoth worked) that a Demon's power level is influenced by how much human blood it consumes, and that Dante and Vergil are so ridiculously OP because their body is made of 50% human blood, and the demon side of them has been feeding on their human blood for as long as their alive?
>Insane how none of the examples are from DMC V. Not only did that game fail to understand Dante's character, it outright ruined him for many.
??? The painting example is the emotional climax for DMC 5, moron.
Literally the first example I listed and the example about him looking up at the painting were from V, moron.
>The entire point of the series is that humanity and heart is what makes him so much stronger than every other demon, just like Sparda
Wasn't it semi-confirmed in V (with how the Qlipoth worked) that a Demon's power level is influenced by how much human blood it consumes, and that Dante and Vergil are so ridiculously OP because their body is made of 50% human blood, and the demon side of them has been feeding on their human blood for as long as their alive?
That feels like DBZ-esque power level autism. They never explained that, they just said that the Quliphoth makes a fruit out of human blood, and the fruit makes you powerful. The human blood shit is just people power-wanking to explain why Nero beats the shit out of Vergil when the answer is much more obvious: Nero is in touch with his humanity. He has heart and soul and the reason he beat his dad and uncle was because they were fighting for violence and he was fighting to protect and save them.
Sparda is the strongest demon precisely because he WOKE UP TO JUSTICE, and because he had a heart that could love a human.
Every game is brazenly obvious about it, yeah. Dante even straight up tells Agnus that's the case. Humans may be weak and demons strong, but humans have something that demons lack.
Sanctus, Arkham, and Vergil all fail because they reject their humanity and cast aside love, not realizing that that's what made Sparda strong. Dante beats Vergil in 3 because he comes to understand what's important and worth fighting for over the course of the game.
The blood thing is wildly misunderstood. It just means the tree is feeding off human souls/spirits to give that power to Urizen. Demons don't lack blood chemically.
I showed my mom DMC 5 V, Dante, Nero & Vergil and she found Dante to be the best looking
I'd that a teen or a terminally online chick would find V the most handsome though
Dante, Obviously. His entire story in DMCV was about accepting his father's legacy, something he was obviously always more worthy of than his brother despite having little interest in it. And when he did take up the mantle as the Legendary Crimson Knight, he fricking owned it.
Crazy how Capcom embraced the reboot's failures and adopted it into DMC 5, Nero in 5 is basically reboot dante with white hair, giving Vergil Doppleganger like they did with the reboot etc.
>Nero in 5 is basically reboot dante with white hair,
No he fricking isn't. Reboot dante was a belligerent, conceited shithead, Nero is just a stubborn blockhead. Nero throws himself into mortal peril to try to save his loved ones and is haunted for years by failures that were obviously not even his fault. Donte pointed a pistol at a teenage girl for having the audacity to ask him to help her with something.
Dante wins for consistency
they're both cool dorks
The storm
The Legendary Dark Knight himself
The correct answer, though his weeb son trying to emulate him makes him a close second.
Absolutely not
Frick this karate bug, he's goofy as hell
t. Mundus.
Sounds like someone didn’t wake up to justice.
Sparda game when?
Only if kamiya directs it
Dante was only ever "cool" in DMC1
unironically Nero because he basically has the best qualities for both of them
>unironically Nero because he basically has the best qualities for both of them
Thats why hes the worst. He's the poochie of DMC.
1. Nero, he's got a gf
2. Vergil, he had sex once and spread his Sparda genes
POWER GAP
9999. Dante, virgin
Nero adopted instead of impregnating kyrie so vergil wins
One thing I really like about Dante and Vergil’s characterizations in contrast to one another is that at first glance, you would think that the more prim and focused Vergil would be the more responsible one when Dante is the party-crazy dude but in reality it’s the opposite. When things get rough, Dante is able to keep cool under pressure and take the situation seriously while Vergil gets easily irritated if things don’t go exactly his way. The one scene in DMC3 where he’s getting pissy when his blood isn’t enough to activate the portal is an excellent example. Dante shows enough savvy and maturity to save enough money to start his own business and get his own place while in his teens while Vergil just meaninglessly wandered around trying to seek power, even having a one-night stand in the process and conceiving Nero. While Dante initially struggled when trying to reconcile his human and demon sides, he eventually learns to accept these aspects of himself and becomes better off for it while Vergil had to literally split himself in half in order to finally cope with his trauma.
I just think it’s a really neat bit of characterization that goes a long way in fleshing these two out.
Yeah, I always liked that aspect too. Don’t forget about how the latter half of DMC3 is fueled by Vergil acting like a seething manchild when he doesn’t get what he wants.
>Vergil just meaninglessly wandered around trying to seek power, even having a one-night stand in the process and conceiving Nero.
I love how Dante even mocks him about this in 5.
One anon once described Vergil as "that moronic brother who keeps signing up for get rich quick schemes and getting scammed on crypto but you don't disown him because he can't help it" and I think fits him to a tee.
Dante and Vergil are the logical conclusions of what a power fantasy is like. On paper they're simply who you would be if you didn't have human limitations. They both go through the same trauma but they cope in opposite ways according to them being superhumans.
Dante just fricks around without doing anything because he can afford it. It's even become a running joke that he lets his enemy stab him because he can just shrug it off. He's completely detached from the world so as to never have to lose anyone again or be responsible for anyone's loss. He has very few relationships and most of them (Vergil, Nero, Trish) are directly tied to his family. He never talks about what he's really feeling and he hasn't had put a family together.
Vergil chose the other extreme. Vergil is a superhuman, so to him, being so powerful no one could ever frick with him again is a real possibility. Unlike Dante, Vergil is presented as being also untouchable. His fighting style and character are all about being quick and to the point but simultaneously overwhelming; like swatting a bug in annoyance. He's driven, but impatient. He has a kid, but he probably didn't even stay long enough to know about it. Whereas Dante's strength comes from within himself, Vergil's comes from without, from his desire for absolute control and dominance.
Dante seems kind of depressed but not in the suicidal kind, rather the unemployed friend who's been sitting on his ass for so long his life has lost all meaning and is doomed to spend his life loitering because he doesn't have the drive to go back to the real world.
I'd correct you because DMC3 is all about how Lady, Vergil, and Dante cope with their trauma and loss. You're right about Vergil where he obsesses about obtaining power to an unhealthy degree, which causes his destruction. But Dante learns to cope better from seeing Lady and learning what matters from her. After her boss fight, he says that she showed him what's really important (family, justice, doing what's right). Rather than running from his problems, ignoring them, or laughing them off, he stops Arkham and faces Vergil to fulfil what his father fought for, because it's the right thing to do and it involves him confronting and fixing his trauma. Similarly, Lady learns from Dante to let go of her anger, because she observed how he handled his own trauma and he showed her that she was becoming a monster from her obsession with revenge.
You can take it a step further because Arkham/Jester are meant to represent the two extremes of Dante and Vergil were to go even further in each direction. It's why Jester is red and blue, and Arkham has red-blue heterochromia.
DMC3 is all about coping with trauma, and how you need to rely on the support of others to overcome it. Dante and Lady learn from each other and are healthier because of it, Vergil withdraws into himself and refuses Dante's help when he jumps into hell. DMC3 is decisively the point where Dante learns to embrace his humanity and his place as the Son of Sparda (which means loving people, showing his heart, and protecting humanity). The final little sign is when he cries, showing that he's a human and not a devil.
wow that was kinda beautiful
I'd correct you because DMC1 is all about how Trish, Mundus, and Dante cope with their trauma and loss. You're right about Mundus where he obsesses about obtaining power to an unhealthy degree, which causes his destruction. But Dante learns to cope better from seeing Trish and learning what matters from her. After her boss fight, he says that she showed him what's really important (family, justice, doing what's right). Rather than running from his problems, ignoring them, or laughing them off, he stops Nightmare and faces Mundus to fulfil what his father fought for, because it's the right thing to do and it involves him confronting and fixing his trauma. Similarly, Trish learns from Dante to let go of her anger, because she observed how he handled his own trauma and he showed her that she was becoming a monster from her obsession with revenge.
You can take it a step further because Nelo/Nero Angelo are meant to represent the two extremes of Dante and Vergil were to go even further in each direction. It's why Nelo is red and blue, and Shadow has red-blue heterochromia.
DMC1 is all about coping with trauma, and how you need to rely on the support of others to overcome it. Dante and Trish learn from each other and are healthier because of it, Mundus withdraws into himself and refuses Dante's help when he jumps into hell. DMC1 is decisively the point where Dante learns to embrace his humanity and his place as the Son of Sparda (which means loving people, showing his heart, and protecting humanity). The final little sign is when he cries, showing that he's a dark soul with light and not a devil never cry.
wow....just.........dang i'm heckin moved....arino.....
The daughter Dante will inevitably have in DMC VI because its the current year and we need a strong, independent, white-haired Sparda femMC otherwise the game will literally be sexist, racist, transphobic and homophobic.
>implying Dante didn’t use Royal Guard as protection
Why would they do this? They already got a MILF, a Southern israeliteess and a tomboy, any more women would be unironically too much.
If you ask me about fulfilling "muh diversity" they should just make Morisson a playable character next game, and give him tank controls to make him feel completely different from everyone else.
How does it feel to be a slave to your obsessions
Dante was cooler but DSD is so fricking gay looking that he’s demoted to behind Nero even. What the frick were they thinking with that turd
Sparda, of course.
I unironically think Nero is the coolest.
He can use a rocket as a skateboard so he’s my fave purely for this alone.
Dante did it first
Dante flew so that Nero could soar.
Yeah but Nero can do it anytime he wants, though Dante had Free Ride in DMC3 at least.
I wish free ride was in dmc 4&5 for both Nero and Dante
Dante is someone I feel like I could actually hang out with and tell jokes, so him.
Barry D. Light.
Dante might be one of the coolest and best Vidya characters, so him. He's got a lot of fun characterization over the games.
>how he snaps from cracking jokes to showing tender, genuine concern for Trish in V, showing how much he cares about her
>the way he talks to Lady in the cutscene after her boss fight, trying to set her at ease and letting her know that she taught him what matters
>the way Lady and Trish act in later games is CLEARLY influenced by Dante because his humanity saved them from themselves
>the way he seems to immediately understand who Nero is and is entirely willing to trust him with the Yamato and give him the support he knew Vergil always needed
>reaches out for Vergil as he falls into Hell
>Vergil turns his back on the painting of their family when he splits himself in two to reject his humanity, Dante looks up to his family when he impales himself to embrace what he is
Dante is the whacky woohoo pizza man meme, but he's a lot more than that and I like when they show his humanity. The entire point of the series is that that humanity and heart is what makes him so much stronger than every other demon, just like Sparda.
The parts where he shows that he's a good person with a good heart are just as important as him engaging with Agnus's Shakespeare shit.
>The entire point of the series is that humanity and heart is what makes him so much stronger than every other demon, just like Sparda
Wasn't it semi-confirmed in V (with how the Qlipoth worked) that a Demon's power level is influenced by how much human blood it consumes, and that Dante and Vergil are so ridiculously OP because their body is made of 50% human blood, and the demon side of them has been feeding on their human blood for as long as their alive?
Insane how none of the examples are from DMC V. Not only did that game fail to understand Dante's character, it outright ruined him for many.
>Insane how none of the examples are from DMC V. Not only did that game fail to understand Dante's character, it outright ruined him for many.
??? The painting example is the emotional climax for DMC 5, moron.
Dont care about your headcanon DMCVck
>anon can’t read
Literally the first example I listed and the example about him looking up at the painting were from V, moron.
That feels like DBZ-esque power level autism. They never explained that, they just said that the Quliphoth makes a fruit out of human blood, and the fruit makes you powerful. The human blood shit is just people power-wanking to explain why Nero beats the shit out of Vergil when the answer is much more obvious: Nero is in touch with his humanity. He has heart and soul and the reason he beat his dad and uncle was because they were fighting for violence and he was fighting to protect and save them.
Sparda is the strongest demon precisely because he WOKE UP TO JUSTICE, and because he had a heart that could love a human.
So DMC runs on power of love and powerlevelgays are moronic?
Every game is brazenly obvious about it, yeah. Dante even straight up tells Agnus that's the case. Humans may be weak and demons strong, but humans have something that demons lack.
Sanctus, Arkham, and Vergil all fail because they reject their humanity and cast aside love, not realizing that that's what made Sparda strong. Dante beats Vergil in 3 because he comes to understand what's important and worth fighting for over the course of the game.
>powerlevelgays are moronic?
Yes
The blood thing is wildly misunderstood. It just means the tree is feeding off human souls/spirits to give that power to Urizen. Demons don't lack blood chemically.
>>how he snaps from cracking jokes to showing tender, genuine concern for Trish in V, showing how much he cares about her
feet
god, his trigger is so gross
>those feet
>that ass
Jesus Christ Capcpm
Uncle dante. Best weapon/ability variety and a pretty chill personality but knows when to get serious.
Dante, what the frick kind of question is this? Vergil is only cool in 3 and the tragedy of his end adds to it. Then 5 ruined him.
>Then 5 ruined him.
How?
Anyone else want to eat Sparda? It reminds me of a roasted sardine for whatever reason, makes me hungry.
Vergil > Dante >> Nero
Simple as
Vergil
Who do biological women think is the coolest Sparda?
I’ve seen women go for Vergil and V the most, though Dante’s not too far behind.
Makes sense, Vergil fits the "bad guy who needs to be fixed with love" archetype and V the tortured artist androgynous guy
When I was playing DMC5 once, my mom saw me playing as Nero and commented on how good his haircut was and that he was cute.
You mom wants to frick Nero.
????
Women love Nero the most, unironically.
Any time stamps to see them talk about their favorite?
NTA, but 8:23 onwards for the second link has the girl gushing over Nero for the next minute or so
I showed my mom DMC 5 V, Dante, Nero & Vergil and she found Dante to be the best looking
I'd that a teen or a terminally online chick would find V the most handsome though
#NotMyDante
Attention
DMC 3 Lady is perfection.
Thank you for your attention.
Vergil SDT in 5 looks like shit, that is all
Dante, but Vergil's spacetime katana is hard carrying his style. Without Yamato he's not that cool.
The one who eats pizzas and strawberry sundaes for power ups
what a disgusting face.
Shit taste
gay
Dante, Obviously. His entire story in DMCV was about accepting his father's legacy, something he was obviously always more worthy of than his brother despite having little interest in it. And when he did take up the mantle as the Legendary Crimson Knight, he fricking owned it.
Dante is cooler personality wise but Vergil's moveset is cooler
He is
QUE TE JODAN
Crazy how Capcom embraced the reboot's failures and adopted it into DMC 5, Nero in 5 is basically reboot dante with white hair, giving Vergil Doppleganger like they did with the reboot etc.
>Nero in 5 is basically reboot dante with white hair,
No he fricking isn't. Reboot dante was a belligerent, conceited shithead, Nero is just a stubborn blockhead. Nero throws himself into mortal peril to try to save his loved ones and is haunted for years by failures that were obviously not even his fault. Donte pointed a pistol at a teenage girl for having the audacity to ask him to help her with something.
To be fair to Donte, he does become a better person by the end of the game but the execution left a lot to be desired.
DMC1 > All, sorry to tell you this sweetheart.
Devil May Cry started with 3
Just like Persona and SMT and Fallout
All those franchises began on 1 for people who aren't bandwagoning zoomers