>It's Frost Arc/Arc Impulse
it's still not colored blue though
and the "flame" looks like it's trailing from the sword, not the sword being engulfed by it
again, the "flames" are emanating from the sword instead of emanating from Marle and engulfing it
at best it looks like they realized their mistake and changed the sprites for the triple tech so they could go "s-see we intended this all along!!"
not that anon, but here's a magazine scan of the prerelease version.
the art is based on that
10 months ago
Anonymous
We're talking about the cover art moron.
of which the cover art was made
then they were all "whoops Marle doesn't cast fire magic in the release version" so the triple tech gets redone to look like the art
10 months ago
Anonymous
Funny of you to assume that, I bet you don't even know why it's called Final Fantasy either.
10 months ago
Anonymous
because Fighting Fantasy was taken
10 months ago
Anonymous
Square was on the verge of bankruptcy so they went all in and called it "Final Fantasy", at least you'll go to sleep a bit more intelligent tonight.
Alright and Squall isn't dead, what a bunch of hacks lmao, this guy isn't even working for Square anymore is he?
10 months ago
Anonymous
>this guy isn't even working for Square anymore is he?
that video was literally released by S-E
10 months ago
Anonymous
I understand that but it's a recon not to lose face, also they're going bankrupt live again so that's kind of ironic coming from a video published in July this year lmao.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>it's a recon not to lose face
So they changed it to picking the same name that was already being used by someone else and got forced into changing it to make it look better than initially coming up with Final Fantasy on their own? If anything I'd argue the myth became the legend because they were too embarrassed of having to admit their first choice was taken by someone else, which would arguably show them to be unimaginative.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I don't feel like reading the article again but what kind of english teacher or whatever writes "Final Fantasy" on a chalkboard and tell his students it means the illusion kek, can't make that shit up sounds like fishing stories.
10 months ago
Anonymous
The same kind of person who hears something incorrect and unwittingly perpetuates a flasehood, like how Final Fantasy got its name from it being Square's last chance before going bankrupt. Which honestly isn't a big deal because people do it all the time, but it should be corrected when given the chance.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Sounds like a case of mythomania to me, ex. my dad works at Nintendo kid.
Yeah, they changed one aspect of the animation. Big deal. The point is the movie is in the game.
>completely different sprites >frog is dead
so yeah they repurposed the move to match up with an old screenshot
Frog being dead is just a reused sprite in the tech's animation.
10 months ago
Anonymous
notice that in the screen shot Frog is on the ground well before flames start coming out of Chrono's sword whereas in the "beta" screenshot Frog is on the ground well after it.
>needs a video to explain things for him
yeah I thought so
10 months ago
Anonymous
>needed me to explain my knowledge
yeah I tough,
because Fighting Fantasy was taken
so
10 months ago
Anonymous
I wasn't the one who turned this into a fandom pissing contest. Thanks for verifying that your knowledge comes from watching a vid rather than researching the game though.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>RESEARCHING THE GAME IN VIDEO ISN'T THE SAME AS RESEARCHING THE GAME BECAUSE UH... >BECAUSE I SAY SO
10 months ago
Anonymous
Yes? The person who made the video gathered up the sources of information and researched the actual topic. Watching the video just mean you regurgitated what they said and you probably didn't even fact check things like
Square was on the verge of bankruptcy so they went all in and called it "Final Fantasy", at least you'll go to sleep a bit more intelligent tonight.
Always felt like CT was some kind of bizarre spiritual successor to SoM since Randi and Primm look similar to Chrono and Marle and there's a character named Luka
From what I understand there was a point in development when they were a single game that got split into two. I learned that in one of these Chrono threads so take it with a grain of salt.
I fricking love it despite the jank but yeah, I know that objectively speaking it has some really questionable shit.
I wish it had gotten a good remake like Seiken 3 got but what can you do.
Yeah, Mana is one of those series that I couldn't learn to enjoy. It's got a ton of audiovisual flare, but a lot of the games' game design leaves a lot to be desired.
>Why do zoomers hate it?
Fox and grapes. Zoomers lack conscious thought and have zero imagination aside from copy/pasting memes with lower audio/graphic quality each time.
Give them a game from the 90's which is unironically soulful and they won't even understand what to do with it. They have no option but the impotently shitpost the same thing over and over.
A grand adventure with a silent protagonist? Boomer shit. Visual abstractions in a SNES game? Boomer shit. Turn-based combat? Boomer shit boomer shit boomer shit. [Insert youtube eceleb here] told me so.
I played it recently, and this thing is basic as hell.
I have no doubt that it's amazing when it's released and you guys only praise this game because you're wearing nostalgia goggles.
Chrono Trigger absolutely holds up. It's a shame that there are so few "classic" feeling JRPGs remaining. Dragon Quest is really it I think?
Mana also had a very brief comeback but that shit is dead again more than likely because square has no idea how to pilot that franchise.
Also I think Zoomers also like the game anyways.
>Mana also had a very brief comeback but that shit is dead again more than likely because square has no idea how to pilot that franchise.
They put all the goodwill they got from trials remake and pushed LoM like crazy. Too bad their pushing was rushjobs and about a nickle for the budget.
Mana was never going to be a huge deal in the long run. Koichi Ishii, the main dude behind the series, was never interested in pursuing some creatively cohesive vision with the series. He instead opted to experiment with different genres and weird mechanics, which led to series completely falling apart during the 6th gen. It's a shame, too, because Trials of Mana laid some really good foundations for an ARPG formula. Unfortunately, the series never really built off those foundation, aside from the remake of the game itself.
Sad part is it didnt need to be a huge deal, just existing wouldve been more than enough. Mana's proven it can and has stuff that makes solid money for SE if done properly.
Theres only 2 riesz figures I know of, and one of them is in a double pack with Hawkeye. The single one has been out fr awhile and it took like 2 years for me to finally get one because it was always sold out.
meet girl with pendant at fair
meet up with your friend who is also a girl that's a genius who has a device for you to try out for fun
girl with pendant gets gets fricked up by device
fix all of that but discover the world is about to be fricked up by something else so you must adventure across time to stop it while separating truths from lies
engineering genius accidentally creates a time machine that allows the protagonist and crew to witness a desolate future so they go hopping through time trying to change their destinies
Dude cucks his childhood friend for a spunky princess and then winds up time traveling to stop the world from turning into San Francisco after 1999 AD. Also there's a talking frog, a talking frog, and a woman who sucks at talking. You destroy a metaphor for the israelites in the final battle.
I think it's mediocre. I think most people like it for the story, but I really can't fathom why anyone finds that impressive. I would rather play Dragon Quest (for the freedom) or Final Fantasy (more sophisticated).
People like CT because it's an 8/10 in every category instead of truly having any sort of tradeoffs like its contemporaries do.
That, and the cast is memorable.
>there are people that dont play on active+battle speed at max >No wonder one of the complains is that the game is too easy.
That doesn't matter when 90% of the encounters can be cleared by just mashing attack.
Some bosses can beat you hard on those settings. They will keep attacking while you are trying damage control your mistakes. Magus is one of those if you are unprepared for him
People like CT because it's an 8/10 in every category instead of truly having any sort of tradeoffs like its contemporaries do.
That, and the cast is memorable.
I think Chrono Trigger is the best classic JRPG ever made for the simple reasons you Anons stated. There's nothing it really does BADLY unless you consider lack of high difficulty a bad thing in games. The characters are memorable and charismatic, the sprites are expressive and fun, Mitsuda's soundtrack is fantastic, the game's concept of traveling through time is done well and even gives you more freedom than your typical JRPG as far as changing elements of the story go (hell, you can literally let the main character stay dead, how many games actually let you do that?), the lack of random battles and the use of techs make battles more enjoyable than standard fare at the time, dungeons aren't a slog and no section of the game wears out its welcome imo, and the game features some of the most memorable sidequests ever made in a JRPG.
Everything it does it just does so damn well that it's hard to deny its greatness. It may not be your favorite JRPG but I don't think there's a single JRPG of its era that simultaneously nails presentation, gameplay, and story as well as it does.
I don't like saying this, but millenials were the last generation to have a small percentage of their demographic born with an actual soul. Zoomers are almost universally transhuman degenerates raised by smartphone apps. There's literally no way to sincerely communicate with them. Hopefully you were raised by a pack of wolves or monkeys somewhere without Internet access.
Turn based anything confuses and scares the zoom zoom. I'd assume some streamer told them to think so because god knows they can't think for themselves.
I thought it was just ok but admittedly my perception was probably screwed up because I played it during a jrpg binge. I can recognize that it has a lot of polish and stuff, but it didn't really stand out beyond that. I enjoyed what are almost certainly more flawed games than I did chrono trigger
>Nonstop Chrono threads on Ganker
Squeenix marketing contractors: if you're trying to tell us something, tell your bosses:
Learn from Capcom. Do NOT take ESG money for the CT remake. Make it pristine and return to form as FRICK. Or else their company is doomed
zoomers are mentally ill homosexuals, and trannies, sheltered and hurt by meanie no no words and scared of the big nasty empty backroom and their own shadow. Joke generation.
I just find hipster homosexuals tiresome so I don't waste an opportunity to point out that they are hipster homosexuals. I'm sorry it got you this worked up, except not really.
>Adorable fun sprites full of soul >Awesome prog rock OST >20 hours of focused story >Enemies on the overworld >Cool as frick bosses >Get to see different time periods as you uncover a scifi mystery >Battles are over in seconds
Gaming kino
Just replayed it and beat it on snes last month...every other major jrpg release i have on snes Ive tried to do the same and just can't finish em...become a beating. Not CT.
Chronotrigger is far and away the best of the batch top to bottom, and if you disagree, you are a total fricking homosexual.
Yeah, I replayed it a couple weeks ago and thought the same thing. The only slow or grindy part was when I fought through the Black Omen in each era to steal all the best gear, and that was just conpletely optional junk I wanted to do. CT is one of the best games of all time. Great characters, music, animations, combat, and minigames. It's the total package.
>Combat is so fricking easy that you never even hear the battle theme get to the good part, just the shitty intro >Overworld are empty as shit and small too, you can walk entire continents in 7 seconds flat >The game lets you explore a bunch of time periods, but going anywhere other than the main story just gets you overleveled / overgeared for the rest of the game making an already easy game piss easy >You can very easily overlevel and get to op >even if you don't the combat is mindless easy and you can destroy anything with iust regular attacks >If you somehow struggle in combat just spam your techs which obliterate everything and have almost little to no MP cost >Even if you run out of mp (unlikely) there are too many shelters that both fully heal and restore MP >Dino chapter is a fricking slog >the main theme is overplayed, more likely to hear it more than just the regular battle theme >The best part is frog vs magus and that's only like 1 hours of the total 17 hours runtime >no side content aside of giving money to poor family and the side quests at the literal last hour of the game >characters are shallow as a puddle consisting of >Engineer girl that likes tech and chrono >Caveman girl that likes fight and chrono >Princess girl that likes israeliteel and chrono >Robot >Chrono >a frog and mage that actually have some story >Bosses are mostly bad with 1 gimmick attack like COUNTER, COUNTING FROM 5 TO 0, and more >The bosses are just damage sponges with 1 gimmick, they are either a joke or too long for their own good >Time periods feel like an afterthought alongside the whole time travel sequence since the overworld is so small it could of easily worked the same with them just being different regions >final boss is a rerun unless you crash the ship
Same, bro. I re-bought it recently (prev picrel) with great regret that I handed my original childhood copy over to some mook at gamestop. I was so moronic.
Zoomers don't hate it, general vidya fans do. It's barely a game, it's just a shitty movie where sometimes you have to attack an enemy before moving on to the next cutscene. It's terrible and only appeals to casuals.
>not understanding that it was designed as a game design textbook for how pacing works in vidya >failing the NPC filter test this hard >failing the reading comprehension test this hard
shiggy diggy
>not understanding
I very much understand it's designed for stupid casuals, that's why attacks only do direct damage.
LITERALLY any of them? As in, every single game is better than Chrono Trigger? I was hoping for something more specific. Tell me about your personal favorites.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>LITERALLY any of them?
Yes, and you didn't answer the question on what you wanted.
10 months ago
Anonymous
NPC AI bot can not name an example without prompts
10 months ago
Anonymous
Answer the question. Why are so scared of it?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Sorry, responded to the wrong post because drunk. I'm on your side, lol
10 months ago
Anonymous
I did answer the question, I told you I want to hear about your personal favorites. For both real time and TBC so you don't dodge this question again.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>For both real time and TBC
Noita
Monster Hunter
BoTW/ToTK
Ninja Gaiden Black/2
Vanquish
Factorio
Deus Ex
Evil Within
Zone of Enders 2
Terraria
Thief
MGS2/3/4/R
Astlibra
Any of the original Doom games
RE4
Bloodborne and Sekiro
Hollow Knight
God Hand
Astral Chain
Lobotomy Corp
KH1/KH2FM
Dwarf Fortress
God of War before Ascension
DMC1/3
10 months ago
Anonymous
I have played and greatly enjoyed several of those.
I still fricking love Chrono Trigger.
10 months ago
Anonymous
What's good about CT? You spam direct damage like a moron and that's it.
>kingdom hearts
You have definitely named other wonderful games, though. We share a lot of neat tastes. Why can't you accept that we just happen to like something that you didn't give a fair chance?
hearts
A fantastic game.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>the NPC continues to struggle in spite of the olive branch
10 months ago
Anonymous
English this time.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Sorry, I forgot - you struggle with reading comprehension.
DURR VIDEO GAME GOOD BUT YOU THINK BAD. YOU HAVE BRAIN PROBLEM. BIG ROCK COLLIDE.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Sorry, I forgot
True, Sakaguchi should apologize for making mediocre games.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I like the characters and their interactions, I absolutely love the music and the setting, I like how it has a simple, well constructed, not pretentious story.
In terms of gameplay I like not having random encounters, I like using dual and triple techs, I like that there is absolutely no need to grind.
Every part of this game fits well with the others and is combined into something I enjoy. Simple as.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>I like using dual and triple techs,
These are brainless options and like everything else is in the are: "it does damage" and "it heals a lot".
>there is absolutely no need to grind.
No JRPG does, not even early DQ.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I don't care.
Don't misunderstand my answer, I had absolutely no intention or interest in changing your mind about Chrono Trigger. Unless this is all a huge LARP on your part I can see you will never like it but I do, and I will continue to do so.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>I don't care
Nice cope. There's no reason for the gameplay in CT to be be so terribly shallow. Even in early FF it let's you create an instant death potion or cast a Reflect spell and those games suck.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, that's real cool and all but I still don't care.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>I still don't care
Sakaguchi certainly doesn't when he makes "games".
10 months ago
Anonymous
>kingdom hearts
You have definitely named other wonderful games, though. We share a lot of neat tastes. Why can't you accept that we just happen to like something that you didn't give a fair chance?
10 months ago
Anonymous
>not a single JRPG
seems like the genre rather than a specific game is the issue
10 months ago
Anonymous
Just play Live A Live and Cross
better than Ct in all fronts
or just Golden Sun lmao anything is better than CT
10 months ago
Anonymous
I hear good things about Live a Live but nothing that compels me to try it after it got spoiled for me
Cross is an absolutely bloated mess of ideas so my assumption is that shitposters or contrarians are the only ones who promote it.
the fact that they all fall under a different descriptor just makes me think I'm right
10 months ago
Anonymous
Berwick Saga. Are you happy now?
10 months ago
Anonymous
isn't that a strategy RPG?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Also a JRPG.
10 months ago
Anonymous
The strategy part takes precedence over the JRPG part, it's why games like FFT have a relatively different audience from people who play standard FF titles
>not understanding that it was designed as a game design textbook for how pacing works in vidya >failing the NPC filter test this hard >failing the reading comprehension test this hard
Chrono Trigger is a solid game, but it is wanked to oblivion for one primary reason: tendie bias, same with FF VI and REmake being wanked to oblivion.
If it was an early PS1 game with Everything being the same it wouldn’t be renowned the way it is now.
Tendies are like this, they seethe at FF 7-10 (PS1-PS2 games) and RE4 (Capcom sold tendies out releasing the game on PS2) for the same reason
It truly is a coincidence that FF 6, CT and REmake, all Nintendo exclusives of franchises that have entries that make appearance on Sony consoles, are the ones with cults right?
I wouldn't know, I dropped console war homosexualry over 20 years ago when I was a teenager. All the games you listed have been widely available on basically all platforms for decades, it's time to give it a rest.
Zoomers are moronic
Why do you make shit up just to get angry at your imagination? "Zoomers" have not been hating on chrono trigger, why make this claim
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/_A_9BZ93yViglzPv4kkmBg/
>one autistic guy represents the entire generation of people
Anon that is one known schizo who is probably a 30 year old manchild
Still love this game man. Wish I had a DS still to replay as it was my favorite way to do so.
Ayla best party member
I don't understand the hate for the ds game. Especially since it actually added content.
Frick the ps1 version though
I agree. The DS translation especially gets too much hate imo. They should have kept Frog's old timey stuff, but otherwise it was really good.
Although, Marle screaming into the heavens out of despair at the top of Death Peak was handled better by the SNES translation.
I didn't like the story too much
Zoomers hate everything from before they were born. Literally. Millennials and zillennials were the last intelligent ones.
>Marle casting fire
always triggers my autism
Kek same
fty, no need to thank me
now it just looks like blue flame, which is actually hotter
I already warned you I'm autistic
just use your imagination to think of it as sublimating oxygen gas or something really cold and gaseous then
it's autism, if I could will it away I would
>grand dream does 1 damage
>no unruly pube bush
ruined
>marle armpits
yes
It's Frost Arc/Arc Impulse. A real Triple Tech in the game.
Fricking casuals don't know shit.
Now, the Heckran encounter shown on the box IS cut content.
>It's Frost Arc/Arc Impulse
it's still not colored blue though
and the "flame" looks like it's trailing from the sword, not the sword being engulfed by it
>it's still not colored blue though
The tech alternates from being blue and yellow
It flashes between blue and red flames. Here's me using the tech in the actual game and pausing during the animation.
again, the "flames" are emanating from the sword instead of emanating from Marle and engulfing it
at best it looks like they realized their mistake and changed the sprites for the triple tech so they could go "s-see we intended this all along!!"
you're moronic see above
the art is based on that
of which the cover art was made
then they were all "whoops Marle doesn't cast fire magic in the release version" so the triple tech gets redone to look like the art
Funny of you to assume that, I bet you don't even know why it's called Final Fantasy either.
because Fighting Fantasy was taken
Square was on the verge of bankruptcy so they went all in and called it "Final Fantasy", at least you'll go to sleep a bit more intelligent tonight.
https://www.inverse.com/gaming/final-fantasy-creator-series-name
Alright and Squall isn't dead, what a bunch of hacks lmao, this guy isn't even working for Square anymore is he?
>this guy isn't even working for Square anymore is he?
that video was literally released by S-E
I understand that but it's a recon not to lose face, also they're going bankrupt live again so that's kind of ironic coming from a video published in July this year lmao.
>it's a recon not to lose face
So they changed it to picking the same name that was already being used by someone else and got forced into changing it to make it look better than initially coming up with Final Fantasy on their own? If anything I'd argue the myth became the legend because they were too embarrassed of having to admit their first choice was taken by someone else, which would arguably show them to be unimaginative.
I don't feel like reading the article again but what kind of english teacher or whatever writes "Final Fantasy" on a chalkboard and tell his students it means the illusion kek, can't make that shit up sounds like fishing stories.
The same kind of person who hears something incorrect and unwittingly perpetuates a flasehood, like how Final Fantasy got its name from it being Square's last chance before going bankrupt. Which honestly isn't a big deal because people do it all the time, but it should be corrected when given the chance.
Sounds like a case of mythomania to me, ex. my dad works at Nintendo kid.
Yeah, they changed one aspect of the animation. Big deal. The point is the movie is in the game.
Frog being dead is just a reused sprite in the tech's animation.
notice that in the screen shot Frog is on the ground well before flames start coming out of Chrono's sword whereas in the "beta" screenshot Frog is on the ground well after it.
Wasn't Marle using Fire element in the 'beta'?
Yes and that's what the cover art is based on, ignore all other posters.
You tell me, or even better, link a source. First I've heard of it.
not that anon, but here's a magazine scan of the prerelease version.
>completely different sprites
>frog is dead
so yeah they repurposed the move to match up with an old screenshot
We're talking about the cover art moron.
>CT gay doesn't even know about the game's history
classic
show me your knowledge of pre-release CT then
>me with a DYKG video in my pocket
>needs a video to explain things for him
yeah I thought so
>needed me to explain my knowledge
yeah I tough,
so
I wasn't the one who turned this into a fandom pissing contest. Thanks for verifying that your knowledge comes from watching a vid rather than researching the game though.
>RESEARCHING THE GAME IN VIDEO ISN'T THE SAME AS RESEARCHING THE GAME BECAUSE UH...
>BECAUSE I SAY SO
Yes? The person who made the video gathered up the sources of information and researched the actual topic. Watching the video just mean you regurgitated what they said and you probably didn't even fact check things like
Gaspar had an overworld sprite, which I thought was cool.
Purim from Secret of Mana can cast Fire magic. Maybe that picture exists from a time in development when they were essentially the same character.
Always felt like CT was some kind of bizarre spiritual successor to SoM since Randi and Primm look similar to Chrono and Marle and there's a character named Luka
From what I understand there was a point in development when they were a single game that got split into two. I learned that in one of these Chrono threads so take it with a grain of salt.
The difference is CT is a good that aged very well, while SoM is mostly a janky heap that's aged quite poorly.
I fricking love it despite the jank but yeah, I know that objectively speaking it has some really questionable shit.
I wish it had gotten a good remake like Seiken 3 got but what can you do.
Yeah, Mana is one of those series that I couldn't learn to enjoy. It's got a ton of audiovisual flare, but a lot of the games' game design leaves a lot to be desired.
The most egregious case of this
as jank as it is I still remember it fondly, it's one of those games I felt like I experienced without playing
Is this fan pixel art or is it from one of those mobile games or whatever? Those look nice.
looks like Brave Exvius.
Probably never played it or if they did they played it on an wi-fi enabled device
I didn't much care for it when it came out.
lost dino sanctuary fricking sucks
whoever created that as added content for the ds version deserves a special place in hell
It is a turn slop combat.
Need to label the axes
y:muchness
x:time
>Play more games than you have
??????
It's the best JRPG of all time, aka a 6/10
>Why do zoomers hate it?
Fox and grapes. Zoomers lack conscious thought and have zero imagination aside from copy/pasting memes with lower audio/graphic quality each time.
Give them a game from the 90's which is unironically soulful and they won't even understand what to do with it. They have no option but the impotently shitpost the same thing over and over.
A grand adventure with a silent protagonist? Boomer shit. Visual abstractions in a SNES game? Boomer shit. Turn-based combat? Boomer shit boomer shit boomer shit. [Insert youtube eceleb here] told me so.
I played it recently, and this thing is basic as hell.
I have no doubt that it's amazing when it's released and you guys only praise this game because you're wearing nostalgia goggles.
not everyone is a zoomer for hating it. some boomers even hate the game
Chrono Trigger absolutely holds up. It's a shame that there are so few "classic" feeling JRPGs remaining. Dragon Quest is really it I think?
Mana also had a very brief comeback but that shit is dead again more than likely because square has no idea how to pilot that franchise.
Also I think Zoomers also like the game anyways.
I thought octo traveller was trying for this niche
Yeah that fits.
I was thinking stuff with a slightly larger budget for some reason
>Mana also had a very brief comeback but that shit is dead again more than likely because square has no idea how to pilot that franchise.
They put all the goodwill they got from trials remake and pushed LoM like crazy. Too bad their pushing was rushjobs and about a nickle for the budget.
Mana was never going to be a huge deal in the long run. Koichi Ishii, the main dude behind the series, was never interested in pursuing some creatively cohesive vision with the series. He instead opted to experiment with different genres and weird mechanics, which led to series completely falling apart during the 6th gen. It's a shame, too, because Trials of Mana laid some really good foundations for an ARPG formula. Unfortunately, the series never really built off those foundation, aside from the remake of the game itself.
Sad part is it didnt need to be a huge deal, just existing wouldve been more than enough. Mana's proven it can and has stuff that makes solid money for SE if done properly.
Too bad its SE and they frick up everything.
Apparently, the recent Riesz figure they put out flopped or some shit. Mana just can't catch a break.
Theres only 2 riesz figures I know of, and one of them is in a double pack with Hawkeye. The single one has been out fr awhile and it took like 2 years for me to finally get one because it was always sold out.
What's the story?
Good morning, Crono.
meet girl with pendant at fair
meet up with your friend who is also a girl that's a genius who has a device for you to try out for fun
girl with pendant gets gets fricked up by device
fix all of that but discover the world is about to be fricked up by something else so you must adventure across time to stop it while separating truths from lies
engineering genius accidentally creates a time machine that allows the protagonist and crew to witness a desolate future so they go hopping through time trying to change their destinies
Dude cucks his childhood friend for a spunky princess and then winds up time traveling to stop the world from turning into San Francisco after 1999 AD. Also there's a talking frog, a talking frog, and a woman who sucks at talking. You destroy a metaphor for the israelites in the final battle.
t. A bunch of old weebs making up and insulting teenage strawmen
This thread was made because of the yahtzee video wasn’t it
They don't. The ones that say they do on here only do it because they know it'll make you angry, and that's funny to them.
So, which is better? The snes version or the DS version? Been meaning to emulate it again, it has been quite a few years since last time
Really the ds version, many more options to suit you and you can ignore the added post game content
Steam/DS version if only for the better localization. Nostalgiagays will tell you otherwise but don't listen to them.
>zoomers hate it
>look at youtube
>zoomers like King K and Liam Triforce are calling the game a masterpiece for easy views
???
I think it's mediocre. I think most people like it for the story, but I really can't fathom why anyone finds that impressive. I would rather play Dragon Quest (for the freedom) or Final Fantasy (more sophisticated).
People like CT because it's an 8/10 in every category instead of truly having any sort of tradeoffs like its contemporaries do.
That, and the cast is memorable.
>8/10 in every category
I'd say
8/10 movie
6/10 gameplay
>there are people that dont play on active+battle speed at max
No wonder one of the complains is that the game is too easy.
Also, the multi endings was cool.
>there are people that dont play on active+battle speed at max
>No wonder one of the complains is that the game is too easy.
That doesn't matter when 90% of the encounters can be cleared by just mashing attack.
Some bosses can beat you hard on those settings. They will keep attacking while you are trying damage control your mistakes. Magus is one of those if you are unprepared for him
fair
but it is a 10/10 in pacing though.
I think Chrono Trigger is the best classic JRPG ever made for the simple reasons you Anons stated. There's nothing it really does BADLY unless you consider lack of high difficulty a bad thing in games. The characters are memorable and charismatic, the sprites are expressive and fun, Mitsuda's soundtrack is fantastic, the game's concept of traveling through time is done well and even gives you more freedom than your typical JRPG as far as changing elements of the story go (hell, you can literally let the main character stay dead, how many games actually let you do that?), the lack of random battles and the use of techs make battles more enjoyable than standard fare at the time, dungeons aren't a slog and no section of the game wears out its welcome imo, and the game features some of the most memorable sidequests ever made in a JRPG.
Everything it does it just does so damn well that it's hard to deny its greatness. It may not be your favorite JRPG but I don't think there's a single JRPG of its era that simultaneously nails presentation, gameplay, and story as well as it does.
Oh so you mean dq5
Yes, but 1-4 also. Just the party selection and freedom of 3 alone is way better than Chrono Trigger.
1-2 feel much less polished than CT, as though they're proof of concepts. I'd like to propose that CT is unironically the peak of ATB.
Top NES RPG's
1. Dragon Quest 3
2. Dragon Quest 4
3. MOTHER
4. Dragon Quest
Top SNES RPG's
1. Final Fantasy V
2. Dragon Quest V
3. EarthBound
4. Final Fantasy 6
I am a simple man, gentlemen.
MOTHER 1 is fricking kino
Consider playing the fangame Cognitive Dissonance, if you can stomach RPGmaker shit
I'm on the edge I've enjoyed both 2 and 3.
who asked?
Also Earthbound is a dogshit inventory management/fetch quest simulator and I'm tired of all these hacks pretending they have nostalgia for it.
EarthBound gives you enough + you have a banking system. Play DQ if you want something even more limited.
I didn't care for 2 or 3.
This is a very good list, but no saga?
I don't like saying this, but millenials were the last generation to have a small percentage of their demographic born with an actual soul. Zoomers are almost universally transhuman degenerates raised by smartphone apps. There's literally no way to sincerely communicate with them. Hopefully you were raised by a pack of wolves or monkeys somewhere without Internet access.
They don't, literally went to every website that has user scores available. See for yourself.
>All that Silent Hill 2
Such overrated shit
>Calling other games overrated
>in a chrono trigger thread
lmao???
Lucca is actual best girl. The REAL kino squad is Chrono x Lucca x Robo.
It's not a bad game at all. It's pretty good actually, but it's a game for kids and that drags it down both characterization-wise and gameplay-wise.
Chrono should be in Dissidia
Crono should have been in Smash. Erdrick/Solo(shame it didnt have Sofia either)/Eight/Luminary just isnt the same.
Turn based anything confuses and scares the zoom zoom. I'd assume some streamer told them to think so because god knows they can't think for themselves.
I hope Sea of Stars is good, at least the music will surely be.
I thought it was just ok but admittedly my perception was probably screwed up because I played it during a jrpg binge. I can recognize that it has a lot of polish and stuff, but it didn't really stand out beyond that. I enjoyed what are almost certainly more flawed games than I did chrono trigger
HUSBAND HUSBAND HUSBAND HUSBAND HUSBAND I'm a dude HUSBAND HUSBAND HUSBAND HUSBAND
Based. Frog would be a great husband.
I do have to say, I like a Robo's theme a bit more.
I like to think it isn't a ripoff, as it would make my world a bit sadder...
Think about it this way, CT preempted it turning into a meme by over a decade. They were ahead of their time.
melee > magic
>Nonstop Chrono threads on Ganker
Squeenix marketing contractors: if you're trying to tell us something, tell your bosses:
Learn from Capcom. Do NOT take ESG money for the CT remake. Make it pristine and return to form as FRICK. Or else their company is doomed
zoomers are mentally ill homosexuals, and trannies, sheltered and hurt by meanie no no words and scared of the big nasty empty backroom and their own shadow. Joke generation.
It's just overrated af
You will NEVER have a real personality.
You will never be actually interesting.
>N-NO! STOP liking (thing) so much! I don't like it and I am special!
>NO YOU CAN'T NOT LIKE POPULAR SHIT
>NOOO STOP SAYING YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT I LIKE
dude over here taking an insult to CT as a personal insult lmao
I am just stating a simple fact m8
you reek of extreme insecurity M80 to get this flustered over someone not sucking off CT
I just find hipster homosexuals tiresome so I don't waste an opportunity to point out that they are hipster homosexuals. I'm sorry it got you this worked up, except not really.
i played this on DS like 5 years ago. i was filtered by giga gaia.
ended up beating that big piece of poop, but then the empire's palace or whatever is where i gave up
i did not like how the team that i picked couldnt get me through the game.
if it's gonna be a story rpg with multiple characters, i'd rather the director just put certain members in my party
also, being forced to figure out weaknesses through trial and error was pretty lame
game is good though i recommend it to people who enjoy single player rpgs, Chrono Trigger is just not my cup of tea
OH SO CLOSE and you gave up. Filtered. Next time pick marle so you have access to heals.
>Adorable fun sprites full of soul
>Awesome prog rock OST
>20 hours of focused story
>Enemies on the overworld
>Cool as frick bosses
>Get to see different time periods as you uncover a scifi mystery
>Battles are over in seconds
Gaming kino
>that paradox Robo farming in the past with saved future Robo on your team
Hey now, its just a little fantasy bullshit
It may be a paradox but its still a good message of cultivating the land for future generations
But i like it. It was great.
Every sidequest was great, especially Frog stuff
Just replayed it and beat it on snes last month...every other major jrpg release i have on snes Ive tried to do the same and just can't finish em...become a beating. Not CT.
Chronotrigger is far and away the best of the batch top to bottom, and if you disagree, you are a total fricking homosexual.
Yeah, I replayed it a couple weeks ago and thought the same thing. The only slow or grindy part was when I fought through the Black Omen in each era to steal all the best gear, and that was just conpletely optional junk I wanted to do. CT is one of the best games of all time. Great characters, music, animations, combat, and minigames. It's the total package.
I bought and completed it on my phone
Pretty good game tbh ngl, do people my age really think it’s difficult?
>Combat is so fricking easy that you never even hear the battle theme get to the good part, just the shitty intro
>Overworld are empty as shit and small too, you can walk entire continents in 7 seconds flat
>The game lets you explore a bunch of time periods, but going anywhere other than the main story just gets you overleveled / overgeared for the rest of the game making an already easy game piss easy
>You can very easily overlevel and get to op
>even if you don't the combat is mindless easy and you can destroy anything with iust regular attacks
>If you somehow struggle in combat just spam your techs which obliterate everything and have almost little to no MP cost
>Even if you run out of mp (unlikely) there are too many shelters that both fully heal and restore MP
>Dino chapter is a fricking slog
>the main theme is overplayed, more likely to hear it more than just the regular battle theme
>The best part is frog vs magus and that's only like 1 hours of the total 17 hours runtime
>no side content aside of giving money to poor family and the side quests at the literal last hour of the game
>characters are shallow as a puddle consisting of
>Engineer girl that likes tech and chrono
>Caveman girl that likes fight and chrono
>Princess girl that likes israeliteel and chrono
>Robot
>Chrono
>a frog and mage that actually have some story
>Bosses are mostly bad with 1 gimmick attack like COUNTER, COUNTING FROM 5 TO 0, and more
>The bosses are just damage sponges with 1 gimmick, they are either a joke or too long for their own good
>Time periods feel like an afterthought alongside the whole time travel sequence since the overworld is so small it could of easily worked the same with them just being different regions
>final boss is a rerun unless you crash the ship
Should I get the Steam version?
I fricking hate playing on handhelds now.
Just emulate snes, or ds. Steam is some mobile shit
My favorite game ever, OP. I recently got an original copy in working condition with the instruction book and poster!
I spent an irresponsible amount of money on it.
>tfw sold mine (and bunch of others) to get a PlayStation back in the day
I want to punch my younger self so fricking hard right on the face.
Same, bro. I re-bought it recently (prev picrel) with great regret that I handed my original childhood copy over to some mook at gamestop. I was so moronic.
Zoomers don't hate it, general vidya fans do. It's barely a game, it's just a shitty movie where sometimes you have to attack an enemy before moving on to the next cutscene. It's terrible and only appeals to casuals.
You're in the wrong thread buddy.
Yeah, CTgays don't care about vidya.
>not understanding
I very much understand it's designed for stupid casuals, that's why attacks only do direct damage.
I get it, mang. Reading is difficult. You don't have to take out your frustration on people who enjoy things you don't understand.
>I get it,
No you don't. Otherwise you wouldn't be defending or like CT.
>Fishing this hard for ~~*You*~~s
Subtlety is a art, friend
That's cute, but crying isn't going to change the shitty gameplay. Oh wait, CTgays don't care about that. Almost like it's a movie.
I am bored enough to bite your shitty bait.
What are some good games (not for casuals) that I should play because they are better than Chrono Trigger?
Literally any of them. Does it need to be real-time or TBC?
LITERALLY any of them? As in, every single game is better than Chrono Trigger? I was hoping for something more specific. Tell me about your personal favorites.
>LITERALLY any of them?
Yes, and you didn't answer the question on what you wanted.
NPC AI bot can not name an example without prompts
Answer the question. Why are so scared of it?
Sorry, responded to the wrong post because drunk. I'm on your side, lol
I did answer the question, I told you I want to hear about your personal favorites. For both real time and TBC so you don't dodge this question again.
>For both real time and TBC
Noita
Monster Hunter
BoTW/ToTK
Ninja Gaiden Black/2
Vanquish
Factorio
Deus Ex
Evil Within
Zone of Enders 2
Terraria
Thief
MGS2/3/4/R
Astlibra
Any of the original Doom games
RE4
Bloodborne and Sekiro
Hollow Knight
God Hand
Astral Chain
Lobotomy Corp
KH1/KH2FM
Dwarf Fortress
God of War before Ascension
DMC1/3
I have played and greatly enjoyed several of those.
I still fricking love Chrono Trigger.
What's good about CT? You spam direct damage like a moron and that's it.
hearts
A fantastic game.
>the NPC continues to struggle in spite of the olive branch
English this time.
Sorry, I forgot - you struggle with reading comprehension.
DURR VIDEO GAME GOOD BUT YOU THINK BAD. YOU HAVE BRAIN PROBLEM. BIG ROCK COLLIDE.
>Sorry, I forgot
True, Sakaguchi should apologize for making mediocre games.
I like the characters and their interactions, I absolutely love the music and the setting, I like how it has a simple, well constructed, not pretentious story.
In terms of gameplay I like not having random encounters, I like using dual and triple techs, I like that there is absolutely no need to grind.
Every part of this game fits well with the others and is combined into something I enjoy. Simple as.
>I like using dual and triple techs,
These are brainless options and like everything else is in the are: "it does damage" and "it heals a lot".
>there is absolutely no need to grind.
No JRPG does, not even early DQ.
I don't care.
Don't misunderstand my answer, I had absolutely no intention or interest in changing your mind about Chrono Trigger. Unless this is all a huge LARP on your part I can see you will never like it but I do, and I will continue to do so.
>I don't care
Nice cope. There's no reason for the gameplay in CT to be be so terribly shallow. Even in early FF it let's you create an instant death potion or cast a Reflect spell and those games suck.
Yeah, that's real cool and all but I still don't care.
>I still don't care
Sakaguchi certainly doesn't when he makes "games".
>kingdom hearts
You have definitely named other wonderful games, though. We share a lot of neat tastes. Why can't you accept that we just happen to like something that you didn't give a fair chance?
>not a single JRPG
seems like the genre rather than a specific game is the issue
Just play Live A Live and Cross
better than Ct in all fronts
or just Golden Sun lmao anything is better than CT
I hear good things about Live a Live but nothing that compels me to try it after it got spoiled for me
Cross is an absolutely bloated mess of ideas so my assumption is that shitposters or contrarians are the only ones who promote it.
Dungeon crawlers (Elminage Gothic and Original, EO, Dungeon Travelers 2/2-2, etc).
the fact that they all fall under a different descriptor just makes me think I'm right
Berwick Saga. Are you happy now?
isn't that a strategy RPG?
Also a JRPG.
The strategy part takes precedence over the JRPG part, it's why games like FFT have a relatively different audience from people who play standard FF titles
Watch him literally name skyrim to bait us harder
>not understanding that it was designed as a game design textbook for how pacing works in vidya
>failing the NPC filter test this hard
>failing the reading comprehension test this hard
shiggy diggy
NPC fled the thread because he knew that naming a game he likes would result in mockery for being an NPC
Chrono Cross is better
Filthy breeding cave sex with a muscle bound blonde.
I made an awful drawing the other time it involved Frog x Flea but I don't think I should share...
Chrono Trigger is a solid game, but it is wanked to oblivion for one primary reason: tendie bias, same with FF VI and REmake being wanked to oblivion.
If it was an early PS1 game with Everything being the same it wouldn’t be renowned the way it is now.
Tendies are like this, they seethe at FF 7-10 (PS1-PS2 games) and RE4 (Capcom sold tendies out releasing the game on PS2) for the same reason
>m-muh Nintendo
Literal brain rot.
It truly is a coincidence that FF 6, CT and REmake, all Nintendo exclusives of franchises that have entries that make appearance on Sony consoles, are the ones with cults right?
I wouldn't know, I dropped console war homosexualry over 20 years ago when I was a teenager. All the games you listed have been widely available on basically all platforms for decades, it's time to give it a rest.
they can't handle all the SOVL
Handle the soul of me fricking your mom, homosexual
If a game has "soul", that just alarms people that it's shit.