lucky and wild was an awesome game. i only ever saw it at my local roller skating rink. first time ive ever heard it mentioned here as well.
local pizza place had this, and it was hilarious watching it deteriorate over the years. if you hit the gators too hard the machine would say MUNCH but it just got that it would frick up and say that like every time.
This original machine was very, very popular. Many surviving machines have broken or missing gators. In arcade collector and repair circles, the gators that pop out of the holes are highly sought after. They are needed to keep the surviving machines running.
I love this game and it breaks my heart when people I want to introduce to this reject it because it looks lame and doesn't have good graphics. Game play over anything. Give shit a try. That's why I hate modern gaming so much. Dull game play but people get fooled by graphics and story.
I'd argue that nowadays playing sf2 on fightcade is closer to the way it was meant to be played, on there you're actually playing with people, rather than at your local barcade where you probably won't be able to find a second player unless you bring a friend.
Most locals have Facebook groups and meetup groups setup. They pick a local arcade with a Street Fighter cabinet and meet there. Sometimes the arcade business will sponsor the tournament if it brings in enough people.
But I can't use a time-freeze cheat in the arcades to go explore the levels at my leisure, I can at home.
>they were USA-only >were
There are still functioning Battletech Centers in US apparently so you still have a chance
There are two. One went "private" when COVID happened, then moved and hasn't reopened yet. the other is in Texas and still open to the public. 18 pods, all running mid-2000 era hardware under the hood. Oh, and the website where you can purchase tickets is currently down. Always wanted to ever since I first read about them in the early 90's, but I doubt I'll ever get the chance.
>But I can't use a time-freeze cheat in the arcades to go explore the levels at my leisure
You can at a freeplay arcade. Pay a fee at the door. All machines set to freeplay. Explore at your leisure as long as you keep pedaling.
>Oh, and the website where you can purchase tickets is currently down.
Just give them a call. Tell them the website down, but you want to play. Indie websites are never very good with keeping the site updated.
>18 pods, all running mid-2000 era hardware under the hood
I doubt that. Bare minimum, they've probably at least swapped the old mechanical hard drives out for solid state drives. Or at least new high end mechanical drives. It would be irresponsible if they haven't.
That and Darius actually look great on modern monitors. Really gorgeous visuals and modern screen is big enough to cover it all, and you don't have that weird "3 monitors stuck together" look
There was a cool machine where you shot ping pong balls into a chibi version of Godzilla's mouth as he swuaed back and forth and opened and shut his mouth while the theme played. I loved it and would rather own that than any other arcade machine that isnt Panic Park, which also could never be recreated
I played that one before, they had it at an arcade in Niagra falls. My girlfriend cleared it and when she did godzilla did a little dance/roar thing. Super impressive game in motion.
Anyone ever play around with a virtual on cabinet?
I'd say a lot of games where the unique part is done with the hands can be emulated in VR. There's a bunch of rowing games with rowing controls in VR already.
The ones that are really impossible to emulate are those that rely on body movement like Hang-On. But then DDR and ParaPara have home controllers so even among those many can be played at home
Most arcade games im of the opinion feel the same at home, except light gun games, they never ever feel even close to the arcade. The thing that makes arcade games special after about 2005 was the physical aspect you cant reproduce at home. Most of the wheel based ones you can get a logitech G920 and set it up with an emulator. But you cant recreate
>found out there's one about a 3 hour drive away from me >pretty sure its the only cabinet of its kind in my country >its at a completely random small arcade in bumfrick nowhere with a tiny flat entry fee for unlimited play
at home.
Christ I'd love to play this
Unfortunately you cant, there is not a single functioning Ridge Racer Full Size cab left in the world thats still assembled and works, and most seem to have rotted away. Best you could do now is get a triple monitor PC setup and stretch the game really, really wide across all of them and set up the emulator with a steering wheel. If you really want to you can mount all of this in a Mazda Miata.
>Unfortunately you cant, there is not a single functioning Ridge Racer Full Size cab left in the world thats still assembled and works,
Not true. There are a few that still exist. But they belong to private collectors.
I can't speak for the entire community, but in other hobbies... when you have a super rare item that other collectors want... it usually comes with headaches. There are stories of people breaking into homes to get it. Or finding ways to steal the items. Your best defense is anonymity. To not draw Attention to yourself.
For some reason they had this machine in a Chuck E. Cheese in New Jersey back in the day.
I was so young, the memory is hazy, its like a dream almost but I'm glad I got to see it in person once.
Me too, they had one at the Chuck E Cheese in Whitby, Ontario.
>Doesn't Raw Thrills make a lot of these Sega games now?
Sega made the Jurassic Park games in the 1990s, and paid the movie studios to use the license for like 10 years. Then the Sega Jurassic Park license expired, and Sega didn't care or didn't want to renew it.
Raw Thrills is an American arcade company. They made the newest Jurassic Park games based on the latest JP movies that came out in the late 2010s.
>People here seem to hate them.
People here hate anything new. The ironic part is that most people here don't realize that Raw Thrills was founded by former Midway employees. Midway - the same company that made Ms. Pacman, Mortal Kombat, NFL Blitz, NBA Jam, Cruisin USA, Hydro Thunder, and a ton of other hit games.
Basically...Sega, SNK, Capcom, Namco, and all the Japanese Manufacturers closed down their North American arcade factories in the early 2000s. These Japanese companies thought arcades were dead outside of Japan, and practically abandoned everyone overnight.
And when I say abandoned, I mean it. Arcades in North America couldn't even get spare parts anymore for many Japanese arcade cabinet games. They were like "What the frick Sega and Namco? How are we supposed to repair your games and keep them running if you shut down the factories? This is bullshit."
Major Arcade businesses buy new machines every year. They also have a cycle of retiring old cabinets every 5 to 7 years. North America still had about 3000 arcades (even after the arcade market crashed). This includes theme park arcades, chain arcades like "Dave & Busters", indie arcades, etc. So these businesses still NEED new arcade machines.
The former Midway Employees saw an opportunity. They founded Raw Thrills in America, and made brand new arcade cabinet games. These games were fun and addressed the needs of North American Arcade businesses. With great customer service and support, Raw Thrills grew to be the biggest arcade manufacturer today in North America.
No I have a couple arcades in my area. I'm a regular and know the owners, and we often talk about arcades. I asked them what they thought about Raw Thrills VS Sega and the other Japanese companies.
They said that Raw Thrills have really good customer support and get replacement parts quickly. For one owner...in 2022 Raw Thrills repaired his old racing arcade machine from 2004 even though it was far beyond warranty. They sent him a brand new gameboard/pcb. He just needed to pay for shipping. From a business perspective the owners really like it.
Meanwhile one guy complained about Bandai Namco taking forever to respond to their issues (one guy had a PCB problem with Maximum Tune and had to send it back twice to Japan). Then when he got it back, he says they didn't do anything, and the Japanese left a note claiming it worked fine. One of his Maximum Tune machines still randomly shuts off and restarts. They refuse to listen to him.
And the other complaints were that the Japanese companies were just too pricey. Why buy a standard Japanese cab when Raw Thrills offers a Deluxe Cabinet for cheaper?
I will say that I do think Raw Thrills plays it too safe and mostly focused on licensed brands to make games. It's gets really boring to always see Fast and Furious/Halo/Jurassic Park/etc. They play well enough, but I want to see some originality.
I miss when Sega and Namco were constantly at each other's throats and releasing new arcade machines almost every month in the 1990s. You walk into an arcade and every single time it would be a new machine. Namco Time Crisis 1 then 2 then 3....VS Sega Virtua Cop 1 then 2...etc. Constantly trying to outdo eachother. Making huge mega arcade machines like pic related. The competitive nature of the old days seems to be missing from the modern era.
Good point about customer support. Arcades are all about making operators happy, and "good games the players put money into" is only one part of the picture. But Raw Thrills games are garbage. Doesn't matter who is making them. Modern arcade games are not designed to entice players to return again and again. They are designed for a dopamine rush for two minutes while you wait for a movie to start, or your friends to arrive at the bowling alley. The rubber banding in those Raw Thrills games ensures everyone gets a photo finish. In Cruis N Blast you can sit at the start for 30 seconds and still place in first by holding the accelerator.
There are still some good arcade games being produced and they're for Asian markets where people still play arcade games. Notably rhythm games with custom controllers that aren't easily replicatable at home. House of the Dead Scarlet Dawn is good and can be easily played at home via Teknoparrot, though it's one of the most common newer cabs.
Guaranteed we're thinking of the same cheese establishment. I only ever saw this game in the ones near me in Jersey
From NJ and also saw this one too. I remember thinking how weird it was at the time, it’s such a Japanese game and a new sega property in the 2000s. Played it with my younger nephews when I went with them to CEC
Time Crisis 1 and 2, definitely more of the ladder for the double mode. Yes, there was the GunCon add-on for the home ports + extras that made them good ports, especially 2. But there is something about the arcade gun that makes it feel like a different experience. I loved playing that game and showing it off to my friends, especially my quick trigger finger skills I acquired by watching some old Japanese players play like that and beat one of the machines back then.
There's a bowling alley in south yarmouth, Cape Cod Mass that in the summer of 1999 had this beast. I must have unloaded $50 into it playing it over several summer weekends.
Idk if it was a custom job or what as I can't find a pic of it, but this version had an enclosed "wienerpit" over the seat complete with curtains you could close.
The place is an utter shithole now, the arcade machine long gone. Makes me depressed.
>Doesn't Raw Thrills make a lot of these Sega games now?
Sega made the Jurassic Park games in the 1990s, and paid the movie studios to use the license for like 10 years. Then the Sega Jurassic Park license expired, and Sega didn't care or didn't want to renew it.
Raw Thrills is an American arcade company. They made the newest Jurassic Park games based on the latest JP movies that came out in the late 2010s.
>People here seem to hate them.
People here hate anything new. The ironic part is that most people here don't realize that Raw Thrills was founded by former Midway employees. Midway - the same company that made Ms. Pacman, Mortal Kombat, NFL Blitz, NBA Jam, Cruisin USA, Hydro Thunder, and a ton of other hit games.
Basically...Sega, SNK, Capcom, Namco, and all the Japanese Manufacturers closed down their North American arcade factories in the early 2000s. These Japanese companies thought arcades were dead outside of Japan, and practically abandoned everyone overnight.
And when I say abandoned, I mean it. Arcades in North America couldn't even get spare parts anymore for many Japanese arcade cabinet games. They were like "What the frick Sega and Namco? How are we supposed to repair your games and keep them running if you shut down the factories? This is bullshit."
Major Arcade businesses buy new machines every year. They also have a cycle of retiring old cabinets every 5 to 7 years. North America still had about 3000 arcades (even after the arcade market crashed). This includes theme park arcades, chain arcades like "Dave & Busters", indie arcades, etc. So these businesses still NEED new arcade machines.
The former Midway Employees saw an opportunity. They founded Raw Thrills in America, and made brand new arcade cabinet games. These games were fun and addressed the needs of North American Arcade businesses. With great customer service and support, Raw Thrills grew to be the biggest arcade manufacturer today in North America.
>These games were fun
no they are not, they're slop >People here hate anything new
yeah because new video games are made for profit by executives, not for fun by people who actually enjoy gaming
>no they are not, they're slop >slop
You're going to have to do better than using buzzwords you found on Ganker. Use your brain and actually describe what's wrong with them.
here seem to hate them. >People here hate anything new. >Raw Thrills is an American arcade company. They made the newest Jurassic Park games based on the latest JP movies that came out in the late 2010s.
Well technically...Raw Thrills was founded in 2000. Right around when Nintendo Gamecube first came out. So the company still counts as /vr/ and breaks no rules.
>With great customer service and support, Raw Thrills grew to be the biggest arcade manufacturer today in North America
Damn dude do you actually work there
No I have a couple arcades in my area. I'm a regular and know the owners, and we often talk about arcades. I asked them what they thought about Raw Thrills VS Sega and the other Japanese companies.
They said that Raw Thrills have really good customer support and get replacement parts quickly. For one owner...in 2022 Raw Thrills repaired his old racing arcade machine from 2004 even though it was far beyond warranty. They sent him a brand new gameboard/pcb. He just needed to pay for shipping. From a business perspective the owners really like it.
Meanwhile one guy complained about Bandai Namco taking forever to respond to their issues (one guy had a PCB problem with Maximum Tune and had to send it back twice to Japan). Then when he got it back, he says they didn't do anything, and the Japanese left a note claiming it worked fine. One of his Maximum Tune machines still randomly shuts off and restarts. They refuse to listen to him.
And the other complaints were that the Japanese companies were just too pricey. Why buy a standard Japanese cab when Raw Thrills offers a Deluxe Cabinet for cheaper?
I will say that I do think Raw Thrills plays it too safe and mostly focused on licensed brands to make games. It's gets really boring to always see Fast and Furious/Halo/Jurassic Park/etc. They play well enough, but I want to see some originality.
I miss when Sega and Namco were constantly at each other's throats and releasing new arcade machines almost every month in the 1990s. You walk into an arcade and every single time it would be a new machine. Namco Time Crisis 1 then 2 then 3....VS Sega Virtua Cop 1 then 2...etc. Constantly trying to outdo eachother. Making huge mega arcade machines like pic related. The competitive nature of the old days seems to be missing from the modern era.
>If all the Japanese places left then why are there still new Mario, Sonic and Pac Man cabinets being made and sold?
In general, most of those cabinets are made in Japanese factories, shipped by boat, and imported into North America.
For a few games, Japanese companies may subcontract out the work to a local Ameridan arcade companies like Raw Thrills. They pay Raw Thrills a fee to make it locally (which is sometimes cheaper than shipping across the ocean), and they split the profits from the sales of the arcade machines.
>bowling alley in south yarmouth,
i prefer bowling arcade games, but those seem to be dying too. there's an actual half-sized bowling alley in my local arcade now. cost about as much to play there as a real bowling alley. meh.
Summer of 99 fricking ruled. Must have played that then for the first time too. I think it was at islands of adventure, the first summer they opened up. Dr. Doom arcade was an adrenaline rush like no other as a kid. You lose your guts freefalling then you exit to one of the most kino arcades I’ve ever seen.
There's an arcade by me that is geared more towards nostalgic adults. Tons of great retro games. Flat fee to enter and everything is on free play. Might want to look for something like that.
They get dunked on a lot but barcades are another option. There's a handful in my city but there was one that was independently ran and operated by a guy who loved old arcades. It actually had well maintained machines. They have some rare/interesting stuff as well like those Nintendo Red Tent machines. Most of the ones I've been to have a shit selection and poorly maintained cabinets though.
There's an arcade by me that is geared more towards nostalgic adults. Tons of great retro games. Flat fee to enter and everything is on free play. Might want to look for something like that.
They get dunked on a lot but barcades are another option. There's a handful in my city but there was one that was independently ran and operated by a guy who loved old arcades. It actually had well maintained machines. They have some rare/interesting stuff as well like those Nintendo Red Tent machines. Most of the ones I've been to have a shit selection and poorly maintained cabinets though.
where at anon? Flat free unlimited play arcades are really rare. Ours went out of business in Chattanooga a long time ago
Reading these posts inspired me to go to my own right near me. Just got back. Good call, friends, it was most excellent, even just going alone. I loved it! The amount and variety of cabs were lovely.
Video related, because I had never seen a Crazy Taxi cab in person before, and it's been like a dream of mine.
If you guys want the audio version:
https://streamable.com/dpyk9i
Kids don't go to the arcades anymore bro, when was the last time you were in one? It's literally all young to old adults. Their appeal is basically solely with retroheads and rhythm gamers now.
>Kids don't go to the arcades anymore bro,
Not true.
>when was the last time you were in one?
Last week.
>It's literally all young to old adults.
That's 10 year old having a birthday party with his friends and family I saw at an arcade must be secretly 30 years old!
They do but it’s mostly just the modern family fun entertainment centers full of redemption shit, carnival games, phone apps and Raw Thrills slop, basically casinos for kids.
The classic arcades filled with actual video games from the 80s-early 00s mostly cater to nostalgic adults or retro gamers, if you see kids there then it’s probably their’s.
Yeah. I went to an arcade in Little Tokyo before it closed down and I didn't see any kids. On the other hand other arcades morphed into what you mentioned, a bunch of mobile looking games blown up on a huge screen like Flappy Bird. The kind of game that is now released appeals to a different crowd.
You say that like that's a new thing. They've been doing it for a LONG time. You just never noticed.
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>this is still not available on MAME
i really want to try it. fricking love silent scope but this is one that i haven't played before. there's exclusive music in this one as well that wasn't included in the official soundtrack release (neither was silent scope 3's soundtrack but that game is fricking atrocious)
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Damn, I was living a lie. Never actually played the Hang-On arcade, always thought it's controlled by leaning. Next you'll tell me Outrun had little buttons for steering and the wheel was fake
I also thought Hang On also leaned to steer. The coin box in that photo also seems to suggest such. But the posts the bike is mounted on look pretty rigid.
The bike in OutRun 100% tilts. Last time I played it, I cheesed the first round by putting my feet on the ground. It's MUCH harder when you have to tilt it with your body weight.
Cyber Cycles and Manx TT Superbike had you leaning the bike to steer.
Damn, I was living a lie. Never actually played the Hang-On arcade, always thought it's controlled by leaning. Next you'll tell me Outrun had little buttons for steering and the wheel was fake
I also thought Hang On also leaned to steer. The coin box in that photo also seems to suggest such. But the posts the bike is mounted on look pretty rigid.
can't believe non of you gaylords have posted this classic yet. the arcade experience was the ONLY way that did it justice. back in the 80s when the gun peripheral actually looked real too.
Based oldgay. The B&I in Tacoma, Washington of Ivan the gorilla fame had one and it's one of my most cherished arcade memories. Back in the 80s that place was CROWDED.
Nice cabinet too.
I was lucky enough to play this at Blackpool while it was still there. It was honestly in a pretty bad state of disrepair but it was still cool as frick and I'm glad to have had the chance.
On the flipside I've never played a real After Burner machine despite it being one of my favourite arcade games. Hopefully one day I'll come across one.
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Reading these posts inspired me to go to my own right near me. Just got back. Good call, friends, it was most excellent, even just going alone. I loved it! The amount and variety of cabs were lovely.
Video related, because I had never seen a Crazy Taxi cab in person before, and it's been like a dream of mine.
If you guys want the audio version:
https://streamable.com/dpyk9i
Same anon, I got to play House of the Dead 2 and Daytona USA 2 as well. It was coom.
A lot of these games would still be in use if it weren't for the fact the CRT monitors go bad, and not many people out there can can do CRT monitor repair anymore.
I'm surprised there isn't a business out there that doesn't specialize in repairing arcade machines. There's several places in my small town that have arcades, seems like it would be easy business for the repairman.
>I'm surprised there isn't a business out there that doesn't specialize in repairing arcade machines. There's several places in my small town that have arcades, seems like it would be easy business for the repairman.
There are a few. TNT Amusements is probably the biggest repair/refurb/sell arcade shop in the USA. But most retro arcades prefer to do repairs themselves to save money. Shipping big items is expensive too.
The biggest issue is finding spare parts for these old CRT arcade screens. Especially for behemoth ones like Virtua Racing Deluxe ( pic related). A "wide screen" 36 inch CRT. It's the only CRT arcade monitor I know of with a wide screen CRT. I could be wrong, but I've never seen it used in any other cab.
There was someone I knew who owned one, but he says he can't find anyone locally in his city to do the CRT monitor repair. The screen doesn't work but everything else is fine. He looked for a year and finally swapped for an LCD just so he can play it. But kept the huge CRT. He still hopes to find someone who can repair it.
>wanna work on a heavy piece of equipment that is awkward to handle, carries more than enough charge to kill you, and can explode if you accidentally drop it? >oh, and you can't replace the tube if you damage it while trying to repair/move it >and many parts can't be replaced since no one makes them anymore, so if the yoke is dying out you've just wasted your time diagnosing a TV you can't repair
Unless they have a vested interest in keeping CRT TV's alive, there is no incentive to repair CRT's. Too much risk of lost money for too little reward.
>wanna work on a heavy piece of equipment that is awkward to handle, carries more than enough charge to kill you, and can explode if you accidentally drop it? >oh, and you can't replace the tube if you damage it while trying to repair/move it >and many parts can't be replaced since no one makes them anymore, so if the yoke is dying out you've just wasted your time diagnosing a TV you can't repair
Unless they have a vested interest in keeping CRT TV's alive, there is no incentive to repair CRT's. Too much risk of lost money for too little reward.
Many in the arcade community can do CRT repair. You have to look beyond expecting to find TV repair shops as that whole business model died with the disposable culture and increased integration and lack of repairability. CRT implosion is a nonissue unless you actively defeat the tension band (or fool with 1950s round tubes, which do actually detonate like bombs sometimes). Everything but proprietary "jungle chips" is generally available and flybacks etc usually last. Yokes are so simple some have rewound their own for various experiments with vector monitors. With the insane prices PVM etc. pro monitors bring now (bigger BVMs go for thousands) there are more people with the skills all the time.
>Repairing is ded biz
i've met aircraft technicians who knew how to repair CRTs, and they worked for bottom dollar in the SEA monkee airline biz, where they get retrenched whenever an airline goes bust or fuel prices get too high.
Those can more-or-less be played with a 3 monitor setup. Sega Strike Fighter, however, ran on the same machine but with a way more complicated input panel.
The trick is finding one with the plastic can thing intact. Rad fricking game though.
Coolest game I've gotten a chance to play in person. It's a vector game where the vector graphics are projected onto a wooden playfield complete with pits that your guy can fall into. It had no AI so you could only play it vs another player.
>the vector graphics are projected onto a wooden playfield complete with pits that your guy can fall into
Reminds me of the Namco arcade game "Golly Ghost" where the projected ghosts interact with a moving diorama.
No I have a couple arcades in my area. I'm a regular and know the owners, and we often talk about arcades. I asked them what they thought about Raw Thrills VS Sega and the other Japanese companies.
They said that Raw Thrills have really good customer support and get replacement parts quickly. For one owner...in 2022 Raw Thrills repaired his old racing arcade machine from 2004 even though it was far beyond warranty. They sent him a brand new gameboard/pcb. He just needed to pay for shipping. From a business perspective the owners really like it.
Meanwhile one guy complained about Bandai Namco taking forever to respond to their issues (one guy had a PCB problem with Maximum Tune and had to send it back twice to Japan). Then when he got it back, he says they didn't do anything, and the Japanese left a note claiming it worked fine. One of his Maximum Tune machines still randomly shuts off and restarts. They refuse to listen to him.
And the other complaints were that the Japanese companies were just too pricey. Why buy a standard Japanese cab when Raw Thrills offers a Deluxe Cabinet for cheaper?
I will say that I do think Raw Thrills plays it too safe and mostly focused on licensed brands to make games. It's gets really boring to always see Fast and Furious/Halo/Jurassic Park/etc. They play well enough, but I want to see some originality.
I miss when Sega and Namco were constantly at each other's throats and releasing new arcade machines almost every month in the 1990s. You walk into an arcade and every single time it would be a new machine. Namco Time Crisis 1 then 2 then 3....VS Sega Virtua Cop 1 then 2...etc. Constantly trying to outdo eachother. Making huge mega arcade machines like pic related. The competitive nature of the old days seems to be missing from the modern era.
>I miss when Sega and Namco were constantly at each other's throats
Sega is pretty much dead except for "new" gambling machines released in nippon-only. and maybe Yakuza games. but that's not /vr/.
Namco merged with Bandai i think? they're just releasing endless gachas now.
can be done in VR, but looks like ass anyway.
[...] >I miss when Sega and Namco were constantly at each other's throats
Sega is pretty much dead except for "new" gambling machines released in nippon-only. and maybe Yakuza games. but that's not /vr/.
Namco merged with Bandai i think? they're just releasing endless gachas now.
> >can be done in VR, but looks like ass anyway.
Dyer was obsessed with laserdisc games with no gameplay. This guy who made that machine was also infamous for this interview on his (also failed) laserdisc console. Gary Kildall's reaction to the AI claims made is classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeI5zKeGELA
I mean he wasn't CD replaced everything and CD are just tiny laz0r0x discs, the LD did come first. Its crazy how LD was from the 70's. Its also crazy how LD found uses other than for video considering the price for a unit.
I fricking love Gary's autism. He's not gonna let these guys shill without calling them out. Computer Chronicles was never the same after they lost Gary. It because this shitty consoomer marketing show. All of the 80s episodes at least try to be educational.
>found out there's one about a 3 hour drive away from me >pretty sure its the only cabinet of its kind in my country >its at a completely random small arcade in bumfrick nowhere with a tiny flat entry fee for unlimited play
I'm so annoyed at the new Silent Scope arcade game that Konami made. Has anyone tried the latest modern one?
They got rid of the full rifle!
(I heard because they wanted to tone down the violent aspects of the game to customers.) So all you have is the trigger handle and scope. That's it. No cool Full sized rifle to spark the imagination.
They also chose a terrible cabinet design. The cab is short. Like the size of kiddie ride, or a child sized arcade game you would find at Chuck E Cheese. I have no idea why. We're they trying to be cheap and save money?
The cab has no seat either. Looking at the cab you would think maybe you kneel, but nope the gun is mounted at a weird mid height. Not low enough to kneel but not high enough to just stand. You can't kneel down fully. So you end up having to do with weird "half kneel" where you only sorta bend your knees half way, and you must lean forward too. It's uncomfortable to play especially for long periods, and you look like idiot playing it.
They original Silent Scope cab design was the best! What were you thinking Konami!
I'm so glad I managed to finish it once when I was a kid. Used 3 coins because that was my allowance and then the guy next to me just said to keep using his. Never saw the cabinet ever since.
I guess people were just more chill and cool back then. It was at a mall that had a supermarket inside, so every week when my mom went shopping I'd start by staying at the Xbox in the games selling area playing Jet Set Radio, then she'd go to the cafés and restaurants area and give me 1 to 3 coins to go to the arcades. I usually went for Time Crisis 2, which I also finished due to another guy telling me to use his coins. Another favourite was Crazy Taxi. Also had Manx TT Superbike, Sega Rally for 2 players, I think F1 Super Lap for 2 players, Tekken Tag Tournament (which I remember a guy having to leave so told me to continue his gameplay), Radikal Bikers, Wacky Gator, Air Hokey (a must play when with friends and make the disc fly down the hall due to hammering the shitter), 3 pinball machines, table football and I think snooker, along with other machines I can't remember. Probably didn't have Metal Slug nor Puzzle Bubble because pretty much every café had one of them, along with a darts machine.
Then sometimes, we'd finish the day by going to mall's cinema. Instead of popcorn I had Cheetos Footballs. For some reason the big bags at the cinema, unlike the supermarket ones, pretty much always had more than 1 pog/tatoo/wtv. Usually had 2, but sometimes 3.
Good times man. Now the mall is empty af, there's a different supermarket there and the cinema area is a chinese store...
Good choice. The only major reason this machine isn't seen more often is because the rear projection screen was a pain in the Butt to maintain for arcade owners. You have to replace the bulbs periodically. And sometimes the screens were poorly designed and leaked coolant/fluid from the projector onto the electronics sitting beneath the screen. Which ended up killing it or damaging it. But back in the 90s there was only two choices: CRTs or rear projection cabs if you wanted a big screen.
One of the best arcade lightgun games ever game. So many modern games just increase the graphic quality and that's it. But this game allows you to destroy so many different items on screen, and go crazy with the Uzi machine gun. It really feels like you can destroy the environment.
Not playable in Mame or any emulation. And even if you could emulate it, you can't play it since it uses a special gun for the controls. The gun is different from all other lightgun games made. Only this arcade cabinet used it before Namco changed the guns to something more standard.
The Crisis Zone PS2 port is bad. I'm hesitant to even call it a port.
1. They completely changed the graphics for some unknown reason. The colors, textures, environment, and uniform designs are completely different. They made it dark and gritty for PS2. The arcade version had bright colors and it was vibrant.
2. The physics system isnt as good on PS2. In the arcade version, enemies react differently depending on where you shoot them. In PS2, they always have the same death animation no matter where you shoot. Also, the PS2 doesn't let you destroy as much of the environment like the arcade version does.
3. BIGGEST SIN of them all... When you fire your machine gun in the PS2 version, massive clouds of smoke covers the entire screen. I'm not exaggerating. The entire literal screen. I have zero clue why they did this. I guess they were trying to show off the PS2's smoke rendering graphics? Either way it ruins the game and makes it unplayable. Smoke covers the entire screen when you shoot your gun. It's bad. I can't play it.
Whoever did the PS2 port should be fired. They changed way too much that it's a different game. It's the exact opposite of what Sega does with their Dreamcast arcade ports which are basically almost the exact same as the arcade version.
Imagine Marvel VS Capcom for Dreamcast, but they decided to completely change the stages and uniforms of the characters and changed the music. Then added flashing lights whenever you attacked an enemy. The Fighting Game Community would have rioted.
>BIGGEST SIN of them all... When you fire your machine gun in the PS2 version, massive clouds of smoke covers the entire screen. I'm not exaggerating. The entire literal screen. I have zero clue why they did this.
because the light gun works by flashing the screen, with crisis zone you have a machine gun that's constantly firing so the screen needs to be bright when it's being used to track it
in the arcade they use some kind of mirror so you don't notice it
it's really not that bad of a port there was no other way to do it. they also added a new campaign and challenge stages.
in time crisis 3 when you play with the girl and use the sniper rifle, they did something similar by making everything around your aiming rectangle be very bright
I agree, same thing with the time crisis two port for the visuals. These games had that absolutely perfect delicious polygonal early 3d look to them and the PS2 ports smoothed everything out to look more realistic and I absolutely despise it.
>find arcade 1h30m from me >claims to have more than 60 cabinets and consoles >mix of old and new >look at photos >only the ones with a weel, pistol, etc are original, which is about 8 >rest is arcade1up emulating the games (there's a photo with the frontend menu) >retro consoles connected to 16:9 LCDs, image stretched
I'll stay at home and play on my CRT TV+Wii+PS3 and CRT Monitor+LCD+PC, thanks.
Pic related is my favorite. We had a Virtual On cabinet at my local arcade in the 90s. I loved playing those mecha. It's just not the same at home.
Are you using the right search terms?
You need to use the search terms:
- Retro Arcade
- Arcade Museum
- Barcade
Make sure to search on Google Maps. Old websites aren't as reliable. There's usually at least one in driving distance. Sometimes they call themselves a weird name like "Jack's Amazing world of Amusement" or something like that.
>look at photos
Try to look up YouTube tour videos before going. There are actually several niche channels where all they do is travel the country and film tours of different arcades.
>Are you using the right search terms?
Better
https://retro.directory/map
Most places just don't care and the way they make money is by selling overpriced food and drinks.
Uh, well map's wrong. Just came from a place literally down the street that has hundreds of original machines from every era. It is indeed a Google Maps situation
>It is indeed a Google Maps situation
that website doesn't use google maps, it used community based input. then again, I'm in England, where people don't care as much about this kind of stuff and the mentality is so backwards that if you watch anime instead of getting drunk down the pub every day until you got no money left by the end of the month then you're not a man
Remember the time this machine came out. It was basically the grand daddy of all 3D mecha games. The first of its kind. And the first mecha arcade game many people were exposed to in arcades.
It's fun to play, the control sticks are a unique moving mechanic and the way the cabinet is constructed to look like a wienerpit adds to immersion. It's a genuinely neat experience to play.
Remember primal rage? This was one of the last arcade cabinets I saw in malls before the great arcade exodus around the late 90s moving into early 2000s. Arcades became barren as most kids could just do all their gaming at home on any of the big three consoles.. let's see. There was the N64, PS1 and saturn.. by the time we got to the Xbox Gen consoles our consoles were pretty powerful gaming computers. Those were pretty tough for the arcades to compete with.
Primal rage still hasn't been emulated accurately to this day.. though some guy made some big advancements in emulating it recently. Our local mall arcade had the huge ass XL cabinet. I still have the memory of a huge crowd standing near the primal rage cabinet and not even being able to see it but you could hear the dinosaur sounds coming from it.
Galloping Ghost arcade has a super rare Primal Rage 2 prototype arcade cabinet. I think the only one in the world.
>great arcade exodus around the late 90s moving into early 2000s. Arcades became barren as most kids could just do all their gaming at home on any of the big three consoles.. let's see. There was the N64, PS1 and saturn.. by the time we got to the Xbox Gen consoles our consoles were pretty powerful gaming computers. Those were pretty tough for the arcades to compete with.
Another big issue was porting arcade games to consoles. In the short term, arcade game companies made a ton of money with people buying ports. Game companies thought people would go to arcades AND buy a game port for home use. They thought double the money would come.
Lmao. Nope. Why go to the arcade to play Tekken or Ridge Racer when you could just play at home? So most kids stayed at home instead of going to the arcade. Ports helped killed the arcade business. It was a mistake that arcade manufacturers won't repeat.
Today, arcade manufacturers are very strongly against porting their games to consoles. Almost no modern arcade games get ported. The focus is on creating an "experience" people can't get at home.
>Ports helped killed the arcade business.
Barely. Arcade is too expensive compared to home console. Porting or not arcade games changes nothing to that.
>Arcade is too expensive compared to home console.
You are just wrong. An arcade game is 25 to 50 cents. Buying a home console game is $60 to $75 dollars. Sometimes more for certain games.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>An arcade game is 25 to 50 cents
For what? 2 minutes of play?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Get good
5 months ago
Anonymous
Compared to the price on my home console, it's expensive. Even for the best players in the world.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You really think Virtua Racing on the Sega Genesis is the same experience as using the arcade machine? Lmao
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'm playing the emulated arcade version with a PS4 controller. No it's not the same experience. But Virtua Racing has only 3 tracks and 1 car. I won't spend my life playing only one arcade racing game, that's too limited.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm playing the emulated arcade version
Lmao
You aren't even using a console.
You aren't even playing the console port.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Console ports? Why I would play something ported to digital input when I have something supporting analog input?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm playing on emulation for free.
Ok? So wtf are you doing here. This isn't an emulation thread.
>I'm playing the emulated arcade version
Lmao
You aren't even using a console.
You aren't even playing the console port.
The worst part is that he's not even emulating the Sega Genesis version of the game. He's playing the ARCADE VERSION which defeats his own argument. He's basically admitting the arcade version is superior.
5 months ago
Anonymous
There are two conversations in parallel. One about Virtua Racing. I won't even try to argue saying that's the MegaDrive version is better. Racing games were shit on consoles until analog triggers appear, and one can buy a wheel if needed today.
But it doesn't change the fact that playing arcade games is fricking expensive compared to console. My minute of play is far below 0.01 cent on consoles. Except for air hockey, I don't see the point on going spend my money with arcade machines.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Because your emulating it for FREE.
We are discussing arcades VS consoles. Not arcades VS Mame.
5 months ago
Anonymous
We're discussing about what killed arcade gaming. I focused on consoles because I'm a console player, mostly. Arcade gaming was killed by home gaming (consoles + computers) because of its price. Today arcade gaming is irrelevant in the gaming industry. It was (and still is) too expensive.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Having actually lived through the late 80s and 90s, I can tell you what killed arcades was that consoles caught up to arcades in terms of graphics. The cracks started to show in PS1 and N64 era. By the time the Dreamcast was released, there was almost no difference in graphics quality. So my friends and I stayed home. We never talked about price.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I would argue this (pic related) is a far more valuable and a better experience than playing a crappy console port.
5 months ago
Anonymous
And what is it compared to playing a modern home racing simulator?
5 months ago
Anonymous
I love those big screens
5 months ago
Anonymous
those look cool. but 1st gen 3D was fricking ugly.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm playing the emulated arcade version with a PS4 controller.
Not /vr/
There are two conversations in parallel. One about Virtua Racing. I won't even try to argue saying that's the MegaDrive version is better. Racing games were shit on consoles until analog triggers appear, and one can buy a wheel if needed today.
But it doesn't change the fact that playing arcade games is fricking expensive compared to console. My minute of play is far below 0.01 cent on consoles. Except for air hockey, I don't see the point on going spend my money with arcade machines.
>he says this with a mouthful of cheetos on his $1000 dollar gaming PC and PS4 which cost several hundred dollars.
Lol
And what is it compared to playing a modern home racing simulator?
>And what is it compared to playing a modern home racing simulator?
not /vr/
5 months ago
Anonymous
I have a shitty PC, everybody has one today. And the price by hour of my console is near 0.
>not /vr/
The debate is about what killed (in the past, ie retro) arcade and why it failed to come back.So totally /vr/.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>
There are two conversations in parallel. One about Virtua Racing. I won't even try to argue saying that's the MegaDrive version is better. Racing games were shit on consoles until analog triggers appear, and one can buy a wheel if needed today.
But it doesn't change the fact that playing arcade games is fricking expensive compared to console. My minute of play is far below 0.01 cent on consoles. Except for air hockey, I don't see the point on going spend my money with arcade machines. >>he says this with a mouthful of cheetos on his $1000 dollar gaming PC and PS4 which cost several hundred dollars. >Lol
who the frick are you quoting? no one said that? not even close!
5 months ago
Anonymous
By pumping in 60 bucks in quarters
5 months ago
Anonymous
Only for really shitty games. Good arcade games reward you with longer play if you're good. I can get 20 minutes of play on one credit of Crazy Taxi without much issue. I can usually go a good 5-10 minutes on a couple light gun games, too.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Still more expensive than the price with my console. I played 115 hours of GT7, it costed me 60 euros. And I will play more. Do the math anon.
>these arcade machines would still be around if their crt screens didn't fail.
I honestly can't believe that CRTs are considered rare and somewhat hard to maintain now. I grew up in the late 80s and 90s. How can things change so much in 20 years? Didn't this world make millions of CRT televisions? How can CRTs be rare now. Its mind boggling
>How can CRTs be rare now
As they fail they ended up in a landfield and once LCDs dropped in price people trashed their CRTs. As for arcades, manufacturers stopped using CRT and only a certain number of machines and spare parts were made. Business owners prefer LCD too due to lower energy costs, less maintenance and less space used.
That's what you get for not stockpiling spare CRT arcade monitors after the last CRT factory shutdown in the late 2000s. I saw this situation coming a mile away.
Did you think reserves would last forever? You got 10 years before CRTS got scarce. Be grateful for that!
Any arcade owner worth their salt would have stocked up on spare parts.
Gun games based on sensors (such as Ghost Squad), work the same with flatscreens. Just unsettling to see a GoogleTV startup screen when the operator of the arcade switches it on. Hard part is stuff like Amplifones.
The only publicly-available place is the "Video Game Museum Robot Fukaya" in Fukaya, Saitama.
All the other known machines are in the hands of private collectors.
The Crisis Zone PS2 port is bad. I'm hesitant to even call it a port.
1. They completely changed the graphics for some unknown reason. The colors, textures, environment, and uniform designs are completely different. They made it dark and gritty for PS2. The arcade version had bright colors and it was vibrant.
2. The physics system isnt as good on PS2. In the arcade version, enemies react differently depending on where you shoot them. In PS2, they always have the same death animation no matter where you shoot. Also, the PS2 doesn't let you destroy as much of the environment like the arcade version does.
3. BIGGEST SIN of them all... When you fire your machine gun in the PS2 version, massive clouds of smoke covers the entire screen. I'm not exaggerating. The entire literal screen. I have zero clue why they did this. I guess they were trying to show off the PS2's smoke rendering graphics? Either way it ruins the game and makes it unplayable. Smoke covers the entire screen when you shoot your gun. It's bad. I can't play it.
Whoever did the PS2 port should be fired. They changed way too much that it's a different game. It's the exact opposite of what Sega does with their Dreamcast arcade ports which are basically almost the exact same as the arcade version.
Imagine Marvel VS Capcom for Dreamcast, but they decided to completely change the stages and uniforms of the characters and changed the music. Then added flashing lights whenever you attacked an enemy. The Fighting Game Community would have rioted.
That's what Crisis Zone is for PS2.
>Imagine Marvel VS Capcom for Dreamcast, but they decided to completely change the stages and uniforms of the characters and changed the music. Then added flashing lights whenever you attacked an enemy. The Fighting Game Community would have rioted.
That was basically the reaction they had to Capcom vs. SNK 2 EO.
>The only publicly-available place is the "Video Game Museum Robot Fukaya" in Fukaya, Saitama.
Are you sure? I couldn't find any pictures of it. All I saw on the inside was just rows and rows of candy cabs and a few driving games. To be honest...the ceiling doesn't even look tall enough to put the machine inside.
>Where can I play Galaxian 3?
No idea. But I once knew a guy around 2007 who had one in a storage warehouse in Texas. It was complete but disassembled (because he bought it cheap from a Dave and Busters that was getting rid of it). He had all the parts and was planning on reassembling in a personal arcade. I haven't spoken to him in many years. So at minimum, there must be a few in private collector hands. Not sure about public arcades.
I'm honestly very surprised that more Galaxian 3 machines did Not survive. I saw them all the time in the early 2000s being sold on ebay and other auction sites. Arcades were getting rid of them. Being sold for as little as $2000. I'm kicking myself for not buying one of them. Now they are ultra rare super duper collectors Unicorn machines.
Those are the weirdest things because there's a ton of them in Japan but they have neither home nor international releases. Entire genre that's just local to Japan
They shouldn't even be that hard to emulate with mouse controls and digital "cards" but since they have no following the west noone will ever bother
The Space Harrier moving cabinet was pretty incredible to play as a kid, it's all I would think about the whole week until my dad would take me to the arcades in the weekend
Multiple people posted it but I've played flash games with that scope mechanic... It's really not hard to recreate on one screen, you just move the scope around the screen with a mouse. Not the same obviously but close enough
Well recreate it in VR then Mr. high standards. There's a whole bunch of VR games with that exact scope mechanic, I think even Pavlov rifles work like that
Anon is not insulting emulation. I think he's saying that using a mouse is a crappy substitute. I have to agree.
It's like playing Dance Dance Revolution on a keyboard with your fingers. Sure it *could* be done, but what's the point? The game was designed to played on a specific cabinet with your feet.
I remember going camping when I was a kid in the early to mid 2000's and they had an arcade at the campground. Every year they pretty much always had 2 crusin worlds linked and it definitely became my favorite arcade racer ever. I have such an attachment to it that if I ever heard that theme song playing again anywhere it would probably bring me to tears. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU1D73q0PLw
If any anons are in Arizona, the Martin Auto Museum has a free play arcade room. They've got SF2 CE, Donkey Kong, Ms Pacman, 5 or 6 pinball tables, and some linked up racing and motorcycle sit down games for head to head. It's a nice little bonus on what is already a pretty rad car museum.
What kind of idiot argues that consoles are cheaper than arcades? It's literally the exact opposite. You spend hundreds of dollars to pay for a console just for the convenience of playing at home. Its way more expensive.
My family didn't have a lot of money growing up. Spending a huge amount of money at once to buy a console was out of the question. But my parents could give me a few dollars each week. I saved that and went to the arcade near my house often on weekends.
It was the only way I had access to any video games as a kid. I made my quarters last and played some of my favorite games. Since my money was limited I focused really hard and became really good at certain specific games. Playing Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat against other kids was great when I kept a win streak going.
Arcades were for poor kids. Consoles were for rich kids.
>My family didn't have a lot of money growing up. Spending a huge amount of money at once to buy a console was out of the question. But my parents could give me a few dollars each week. I saved that and went to the arcade near my house often on weekends.
Do the math. What is the price by hour? Please, go study math. You pay your console once, yes, but you can play as much as you want. If instead on going to arcades, you had spared that money you could have buy a console and games in the long run. That's 101 economy.
My family never had hundreds of dollars in disposable income for a console and games. There was no "saving up". We were living paycheck to paycheck. My 5 dollars in occasional pocket money was one of the only luxuries I had as a kid.
>but you can play as much as you want.
Playing at home doesn't give you real practice. You don't get good playing alone against the computer in Street Fighter 2. The real pros were at the arcade. That's where you learned from others and got better.
>My 5 dollars in occasional pocket money was one of the only luxuries I had as a kid.
You're the minority in arcade gamers. Arcade is for the rich guys, the poor in my country have consoles or don't play at all. >You don't get good playing alone against the computer in Street Fighter 2
I didn't play alone, I played with my friends. That's all I ask.
Having actually lived through the late 80s and 90s, I can tell you what killed arcades was that consoles caught up to arcades in terms of graphics. The cracks started to show in PS1 and N64 era. By the time the Dreamcast was released, there was almost no difference in graphics quality. So my friends and I stayed home. We never talked about price.
Here, as soon as we have the Master System or the Nes, we stop playing at arcade because it was too expensive for us.
I know that English may not be your first language but this thread is about arcade games that are difficult or impossible to replicate with a home console.
Your home console is not able to do fancy tricks involving mirrors like Warrior or Golly Ghost
>the vector graphics are projected onto a wooden playfield complete with pits that your guy can fall into
Reminds me of the Namco arcade game "Golly Ghost" where the projected ghosts interact with a moving diorama.
. Look at the picture in that post anon, your PC and console are not able to replicate that.
Yes you can play a racing game with a modern controller but you are not having the same experience as someone playing it on a cabinet that has a wheel and pedals and sometimes even has fancy displays or cars that you sit in.
Your decade old 360 controller is not the same as the control panel of a cabinet like virtual on.
Yes, street fighter with fightcade is a very close experience to old arcades as far as competition goes but we both know you are too stupid and lazy to assemble an arcade stick to make it feel more authentic.
Not to mention he can't replicate motion cabinets. Anon said he had a crappy old PC with a random controller. He's not getting the real experience.
The debate that started here
>Ports helped killed the arcade business.
Barely. Arcade is too expensive compared to home console. Porting or not arcade games changes nothing to that.
was about what killed arcade. I didn't say that the experience is the same. I said that it's not worth the price. That's all. Deal with it, arcade gaming is irrelevant today because it's too expensive.
And I'm not using a random controller, I'm using a PS4 controller, one of the best.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Frick your derail and frick your Xbox controller.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Ok, you're accepting the truth and now you're using insults instead of saying you were right.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Thanks for your concession and admitting that I am not even following your autistic derail and am instead here to discuss the thread topic, esoteric arcade control/display systems and cabinets that aren't able to be replicated on home systems.
The whole game is played with two levers that can be pushed all the way to the other side (the red one can move all the way over to where the blue one is). The point of the game is that it's done with two players, each one holds a lever, then you have to physically push the person next to you since you're both trying to push your level into their side of the field.
The actual game is a bunch of minigames, most of which you can sabotage your opponent by shoving them off-course.
That control system sounds really fun thank you for posting it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Ok, you're accepting the truth and now you're using insults instead of saying you were right.
Not only is your derail pathetic. But your completely wrong. In the 1990s, Arcade gaming was far cheaper. I can play any arcade game I want with a few quarters. You have to spend hundreds of dollars to own a console with an inferior console port. It's more expensive and a worse experience.
In the 1990s I don't have to worry about rent, electricity bills, owning a TV, owning the console, or owning the game. I can walk into a Laundromat arcade and drop 25 cents to play the game. And Stop talking about emulation because that shit didn't exist in the 1990s.
I don't know how your village in South America got gaming console (maybe you stole it), but consoles were for rich kids. Arcade cabinets were for regular and poor folks.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I can play any arcade game I want with a few quarters. You have to spend hundreds of dollars to own a console with an inferior console port. It's more expensive and a worse experience.
You're comparing absolute value and refuse to compare the price by hour, and that it's what matters. Go back to math school anon.
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's not a good comparison because arcade ports weren't perfect until dreamcast, where the arcade hardware was the same as the console hardware. Please stop shitting up the thread with your derail.
5 months ago
Anonymous
People didn't care about arcade ports. They care about gaming and the price by hour. Today arcade gaming is just surviving because, yes, it offers something you can't have home. But it doesn't change the fact that it's expensive.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>People didn't care about arcade ports.
They did at first, but arcades started to die once consoles did more interesting original stuff. Can't have Gran Turismo on an arcade machine.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>People didn't care about arcade ports.
Everyone did in the 1970s/80s/90s. You weren't even born then. People wanted to play the best version they could get their hands on. Consoles existed for 20+ years but didn't kill arcades until Dreamcast came out.
People wanted to play Pac Mac in arcades. They didn't want to play the ridiculous Atari 2600 console port as their first choice.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I was born in 83. >Dreamcast
Please, that console was a failure, come back to the real world Anon. Your inventing facts to defend your point.
As soon as we can game at home, arcade started dying.
5 months ago
Anonymous
People could game on home consoles since the 1970s you moron. Before you were born. Arcades existed since the 1910s, and were an incredibly massive booming business until around 1998. Almost 100 years of prosperity.
Now get out and stop derailing the thread.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Please, that console was a failure, come back to the real world Anon.
You can go back further than that. Saturn was the console to own if you liked arcade games, and it flopped hard already.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Even with the ram expansion Saturn still had load times that the arcade system didn't have.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Dreamcast and Naomi were the same hardware you moron.
5 months ago
Anonymous
And what is the point? It doesn't change the fact that home gaming killed arcade because arcade is too expensive (except if you suck at math and doesn't know how to count money). That's the sole thing I say since the beginning.
And yes, the dreamcast is an historical failure as a console. Look at the figures. Dreamcast is irrelevant in gaming history. Almost nobody care about that console.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>home gaming killed arcade because arcade is too expensive
SEA monkee here. Arcades didn't die here, but yes it's expensive. It only got more expensive as more people decided to game at home or goto LAN shops for longer hrs of MasterRice gaming. Some LAN shops literally replaces Arcades, but they didn't get "killed".
If home gaming could kill arcades, it would have killed LAN shops too. They didn't. Some people still like to play with crowds and friends "outside". and not everyone can afford to build their arcade or LAN shop at home.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Your country is completely different to the Western arcade market.
5 months ago
Anonymous
yes. did i say otherwise? and from this thread, arcades in USA didn't "die" either.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>You're comparing absolute value and refuse to compare the price by hour, and that it's what matters. Go back to math school anon.
Your comparison makes no sense for the 1990s. Arcade games ported to consoles didn't even become the same until the Sega Dreamcast came out in 1999. Before that, all ported games were inferior (unless you owned a rare Neo Geo).
You clearly live in some 3rd World country, and judging from the way you type...English isn't your first language. You know nothing about arcade history and you know nothing about the arcade market in the western world. We get it. You're poor. Your village managed to steal some consoles when you were young so you got to play for free. And now you're still poor, and play emulated games on your "$0 dollar PC" and an Xbox 360 controller.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Ok, ad hominem and inventing facts. You're ridiculous.
I used to frequent the arcade at my local dead mall and they would have 2 and 3 side by side. Nothing beats being the loudest butthole in the arcade by having the plastic gun constantly clacking as it recoils. I wish the Guncon controllers had recoil.
Those light guns in your picture are not original to the cabinet. It looks like the arcade owner replaced the original Namco ones with cheap generic ones with no recoil
There are two oem variants that I recall:
1. Black with recoil
2. Same shape as black but in pink and blue
I used to work in an arcade. Unless 3D printing has changed prices since 2009 (when I left), then those guns cost several hundred dollars each - if you wanted to buy a replacement. Namco charged a fortune to replace them. They were the most expensive part of the machine and took the most abuse.
People would drop the guns on the ground, or slam the guns into the sides of the machine while walking away. We would put them on metal chains to prevent people from over extending the cables, or yanking the cords too hard. But it still got abused hard.
How do that control system work?
They have a cabinet of Cho Chabudai Gaeshi at the round one near me. It's a really quick play (flip table and watch the havoc it causes) but I can't resist playing it whenever I see it.
The whole game is played with two levers that can be pushed all the way to the other side (the red one can move all the way over to where the blue one is). The point of the game is that it's done with two players, each one holds a lever, then you have to physically push the person next to you since you're both trying to push your level into their side of the field.
The actual game is a bunch of minigames, most of which you can sabotage your opponent by shoving them off-course.
For starters arcade boards went from bespoke hardware to regular PC parts running Windows Embedded.
Not that anon that you are replying to. But it I also want to add that I've actually asked a few people in the industry about this. The answer I got from several people is that during the 80s and 90s, Namco was filled with creative people who were willing to take risks to stay at the top of the arcade market. But after Namco merged with Bandai in the 2000s, they became very conservative. The creative people at Namco retired. Bandai-Namco of today prefers to stick to releasing sequels and franchise games. It's just NOT the same group of employees who made Namco great in the past. A completely different generation of employees that would never make something like pic related.
I am literally obsessed with this game. I'm at the point where I may try to recreate it at home on my arcade with a custom write to emulate the game. I have a swappable control deck to match the controller.
there is a longboard wheel that controls steering up and down. a button for gas and a technique tapping the button fast to get through patches of sand. there are some youtubes where you can see the gameplay. black emperor
>cabinet that was in a US arcade for 6 months:
in graffiti, decals ripped, cracks in the acrylic, holes in the mdf, broken buttons, smells like sewage >cabinet that was in a japanese arcade for 20 years:
, identical to the day it was manufactured
I don't think I've ever seen such a clean looking Enduro racer ever. They are always dirty and beat up when I see them. That picture looks absolutely clean. Factory fresh.
No, it was a lesser-known arcade up north called FunFuzion. It was a massive arcade trapped in 2003. To give you an idea of how big it was, it had EIGHT dance machines (five DDR, an ITG, and two PIU).
>stuck in 2003
Different anon here. But man that looks amazing. A fun Time capsule. What a shame it closed.
I've heard in the Arcade community that NYC is just too insane with their taxes and prices. Unless you are some big company like Dave & Busters, then most indie arcades can'r afford to operate in NYC. At least thats what I've been told by arcade owners.
>too insane with their taxes and prices. Unless you are some big company like Dave & Busters,
according to youtubez comments and LouisRossmansextips, it's all money laundering and landlords hoping to flip to other landlords for profit. but that's
The only way to keep traditional arcades and old machines alive is through the Freeplay model. Galloping Ghost Arcade is the best example. A huge ass building with hundreds of old arcade machines. All on freeplay for a flat fee.
True but that's for newer Rhythm games and fighting games. The older arcade machines (made before 2005 ish) need a freeplay model. At least outside of Asia where everything is more spread out and public transportation kinda sucks.
>the 80s and 90s, Namco was
bubble economy money encouraged risk. money ran out in the early 90s as nippon fell into endless recession/0 GDP growth.
I'm so mad these games came out during a time when cameras and video were rare. So any footage and pictures is really rare. People have no idea how lucky they were back then. No arcade company today would ever make something like Ridge Racer Full Scale. It's too risky and creative for modern game companies. We just get the same games over and over at arcades. VR games suck.
>too risky and creative
More like it would never make any money. The market moved on, enjoy the fact that today your home racing rig can be way more advanced than most arcades ever were
>I believe there's one surviving machine, period
Wait...just one? How is that even possible? Aren't hundreds or even thousands of these arcade machines made? That's like saying there's only one Pac Man machine left.
>Aren't hundreds or even thousands of these arcade machines made?
Not with a room-sized set-up like this. Maybe 20 in the whole world.
These used to exist at almost every single Dave & Busters in the 1990s. So that's at least 100 to 150 machines in the USA. But I have no idea what happened to them all.
We're still talking about the room sized Attack of the Zolgear, right?
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Yes. Dave and Busters had them in the 90s. I have no idea what happened to them. But since there are around 150 Dave and Buster locations, that means at least 100 Galaxian3 machines existed in America at one point. Much more if we count machines outside of America like Europe and Asia.
5 months ago
Anonymous
If they were all owned by Dave and Busters, then yeah, it's likely they were disposed of. It's the same reason there are so few surviving Derby Owners Club machines, despite EVERY Dave and Busters having one. Dave and Busters just parted the things on a corporate level.
5 months ago
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I guess it depends if the D&B was franchise owned or corporate owned. I've heard stories of D&B selling old machines. Franchise owners have the power to do that.
5 months ago
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>so few surviving Derby Owners Club machines, despite EVERY Dave and Busters having one.
The horse racing simulator? Why is that machine so popular? No offense, but I'm genuinely struggling to understand its appeal. Does it give actual money if you win.
I mean I appreciate the fact it's a huge machine with the ability to have lots of people participate. A technical achievement no doubt. But why do other people love it?
5 months ago
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its cause you can keep a card with the horse you raised. its like a pet simulator
a giant tamagotchi
5 months ago
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>a giant tamagotchi
Dang it anon. Why did you describe it that way? Now I want one. I need a giant horse betting tamagotchi simulator by Sega.
5 months ago
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I've looked for any arcade that still has it and I'm pretty sure there are none. There are the last three locations that still had one, as far as I can tell: >an arcade in Ohio that had a full deluxe 8 person setup that they were extremely proud of. The arcade shut down with no notice a few years back >an arcade in Idaho where the owner got sick of cleaning up the cards that kids were leaving laying around all over the place. Had quite a few machines no other arcade had, but has since rotated all of them for more common machines >a Dave and Busters in California that I'm 90% sure got rid of it, but whoever updates the listing on Zenius hasn't removed it. Could just be because they don't pay attention to it, though
I'm pretty sure public ones are just completely gone in the US at this point.
5 months ago
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I saw one at an arcade in Texas. But it was around 6 years ago.
5 months ago
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>I've looked for any arcade that still has it and I'm pretty sure there are none. There are the last three locations that still had one, as far as I can tell:
I guarantee you they still exist for sure. But almost all of them are in storage now. Big chain arcades don't want to do maintenance on them anymore so they sent their surviving machines to their storage warehouses. Rear projection TVs and CRT monitors are just too old for them. They also don't want to pay to convert them to LCD screens. Here's a picture of one Derby owners Club machine sitting in storage from last month (Nov 2023). The screens need maintenance, and it has some cosmetic wear and tear all over it, but it still works. Still functional.
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Yeah, there are still quite a few privately owned machines, but there are zero public ones left. Supposed, there is one that came out to an Arizona gaming convention this year, so that's your only real option for playing it (short of tracking down someone who owns it, which isn't difficult since they have a whole facebook group).
5 months ago
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Have you considered buying one?
5 months ago
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A full size one is out of the question, since they're SUPER sought-after these days, but a home setup probably isn't out of the question (especially since I have the card printer...). What's the minimum number of Sega Naomis it requires to run? Does it need a full setup of six or will it run with only three?
There was a huge problem with those gigantic machines: They were a b***h to store and transport. So once an arcade shut down or decided they no longer wanted to dedicate the space to it, they had to find someone who did. If they couldn't, they were often forced to choose between keeping it on the floor or just throwing it out.
Add that on top of the machines being so expensive that not many were made and it's not that hard to see why there are so few surviving ones. Hell, the one known surviving machine was only salvaged because a random arcade happened to have kept it until the 2010s and the guy who bought it REALLY wanted that specific machine and kept bugging them about it. They'd have probably thrown it out otherwise. (which is also exactly what happened with the last known full scale Ridge Racer)
That said, it's not impossible there's another one somewhere. Nobody knows where it is if there is.
I know of at least two in private collection/storage in North America. Even saw pictures of them. One unit is sitting disassembled in some warehouse with a few other cabinets. Owner says it works but hasn't tested it since it went into storage years ago. He has no intention to sell it and bought it from an old arcade that closed in the 2000s and was selling everything.
That's in the basement level right? I heard that the owners found out it costs more money to move those giant machines out of the building...than it does to just leave them there in the basement level. So the arcade remains there as a sort 1980s/1990s time capsule through sheer luck of the owners being so cheap.
I used to live nearby as a kid with my family. This used to be a busy arcade with a food court inside it. Lots of kids running around and screaming and having fun. Wow I can't believe it's still there. It looks almost the same as when I was a kid in the 90s. I need to visit again.
Yeah. There's still a place in Minenapolis that has them, but they've been in the process of moving for over a year. They still pop up all the time at local conventions, though.
Sega's Star Wars Trilogy arcade. The full sitdown cab with surround sound not that gay standing arcade 1-up one. Back when the prequels were coming out they added this game to my local movie theatre arcade, this thing was a damn treat and really made you feel like you were in the movie.
>the full sitdown cab with surround sound not that gay standing arcade 1-up one.
Heh. The upright has a kit to make it a sit-down.
>Back when the prequels were coming out they added this game to my local movie theatre arcade, this thing was a damn treat and really made you feel like you were in the movie.
Oh yeah. It felt like the pinnacle of arcade gaming. I first played it at Disney World and was utterly blown away by it. Then when it came to one of my local theaters (that is now gone) I made every excuse to see a movie to play it and then when there were no good movies, I asked the theater people if I could just get in to play the game and they agreed!
I was very sad when the game eventually disappeared a few years before the theater closed, so when I finally bought one several years back, better than sex.
Pic related isn't mine, but close.
lucky and wild was an awesome game. i only ever saw it at my local roller skating rink. first time ive ever heard it mentioned here as well.
local pizza place had this, and it was hilarious watching it deteriorate over the years. if you hit the gators too hard the machine would say MUNCH but it just got that it would frick up and say that like every time.
>AURGH
I can hear them still bros
oh SHIT
Fun info:
This original machine was very, very popular. Many surviving machines have broken or missing gators. In arcade collector and repair circles, the gators that pop out of the holes are highly sought after. They are needed to keep the surviving machines running.
I love this game and it breaks my heart when people I want to introduce to this reject it because it looks lame and doesn't have good graphics. Game play over anything. Give shit a try. That's why I hate modern gaming so much. Dull game play but people get fooled by graphics and story.
>good graphics
>tfw no photorealistic gators
>plays with 2 other friends with a hand for each one
heh, nothing personal gators
>hand
IF I CATCH YOU HOOLIGANS USING YOUR HANDS INSTEAD OF THE MALET ONE MORE TIME YOU'RE BANNED FOR LIFE
Those gators are actually expensive to replace. Whatever company created that machine made a fortune in selling spare gator heads.
Like selling a printer for cheap and then making the ink super expensive.
Thank you for unlocking memories I didn't even know I had.
all of them, you aint playing prop cycle at home.
Yeah but you can play Street Fighter 2 on the comfort of your couch and you're not really missing much.
>Playing fighting games against the AI
I play every fighting game against AI, stay mad bro.
Why would I be mad at you being a weirdo?
>missing out on friends
you're the one who should be mad, even angry,
>you need le friends
fightcade is right there at your convenience
Why are you being so defensive?
Are you implying the arcade machine doesn't have single player mode, or that the home console version doesn't have 2 player?
I'd argue that nowadays playing sf2 on fightcade is closer to the way it was meant to be played, on there you're actually playing with people, rather than at your local barcade where you probably won't be able to find a second player unless you bring a friend.
Most locals have Facebook groups and meetup groups setup. They pick a local arcade with a Street Fighter cabinet and meet there. Sometimes the arcade business will sponsor the tournament if it brings in enough people.
But I can't use a time-freeze cheat in the arcades to go explore the levels at my leisure, I can at home.
There are two. One went "private" when COVID happened, then moved and hasn't reopened yet. the other is in Texas and still open to the public. 18 pods, all running mid-2000 era hardware under the hood. Oh, and the website where you can purchase tickets is currently down. Always wanted to ever since I first read about them in the early 90's, but I doubt I'll ever get the chance.
>But I can't use a time-freeze cheat in the arcades to go explore the levels at my leisure
You can at a freeplay arcade. Pay a fee at the door. All machines set to freeplay. Explore at your leisure as long as you keep pedaling.
>Oh, and the website where you can purchase tickets is currently down.
Just give them a call. Tell them the website down, but you want to play. Indie websites are never very good with keeping the site updated.
>18 pods, all running mid-2000 era hardware under the hood
I doubt that. Bare minimum, they've probably at least swapped the old mechanical hard drives out for solid state drives. Or at least new high end mechanical drives. It would be irresponsible if they haven't.
That and Darius actually look great on modern monitors. Really gorgeous visuals and modern screen is big enough to cover it all, and you don't have that weird "3 monitors stuck together" look
Is this in the United States? I've never seen this cab before.
when the preboss drone goes off in the Darius cabinet it comes through a sub in the seat and runs though your body. it's great.
I don't know where the image originally came from, I found it on Google. I did see this cabinet for real in Japan, however.
Yes, the sound is awesome in these.
I play both of these on an ultrawide
There was a cool machine where you shot ping pong balls into a chibi version of Godzilla's mouth as he swuaed back and forth and opened and shut his mouth while the theme played. I loved it and would rather own that than any other arcade machine that isnt Panic Park, which also could never be recreated
I played that one before, they had it at an arcade in Niagra falls. My girlfriend cleared it and when she did godzilla did a little dance/roar thing. Super impressive game in motion.
Anyone ever play around with a virtual on cabinet?
Battle Gear racing games.
The trucker games.
The Mechwarrior pods(they were USA-only so i never saw them).
Fist of the North Star punchy game.
>they were USA-only
>were
There are still functioning Battletech Centers in US apparently so you still have a chance
minimum 568 AUS dorrars for a one way ticket to USA, brah.... i'm pooru.
Anything racing, or at least play the thing with a fricking wheel
Super Sprint .. that three player wheel action with 2 friends who were competent was peak racing
Is that game really played the way it looks like it's played?
you finger those butts for 1000 yrs of buttruto pain.
>https://invidious.protokolla.fi/watch?v=aNTtaDV_yvU
I'd say a lot of games where the unique part is done with the hands can be emulated in VR. There's a bunch of rowing games with rowing controls in VR already.
The ones that are really impossible to emulate are those that rely on body movement like Hang-On. But then DDR and ParaPara have home controllers so even among those many can be played at home
Doing it in VR doesn't replicate the resistance the oars give.
Most arcade games im of the opinion feel the same at home, except light gun games, they never ever feel even close to the arcade. The thing that makes arcade games special after about 2005 was the physical aspect you cant reproduce at home. Most of the wheel based ones you can get a logitech G920 and set it up with an emulator. But you cant recreate
at home.
Unfortunately you cant, there is not a single functioning Ridge Racer Full Size cab left in the world thats still assembled and works, and most seem to have rotted away. Best you could do now is get a triple monitor PC setup and stretch the game really, really wide across all of them and set up the emulator with a steering wheel. If you really want to you can mount all of this in a Mazda Miata.
>Unfortunately you cant, there is not a single functioning Ridge Racer Full Size cab left in the world thats still assembled and works,
Not true. There are a few that still exist. But they belong to private collectors.
Why don't these people upload to YouTube or share info with the arcade community?
I can't speak for the entire community, but in other hobbies... when you have a super rare item that other collectors want... it usually comes with headaches. There are stories of people breaking into homes to get it. Or finding ways to steal the items. Your best defense is anonymity. To not draw Attention to yourself.
the soundtrack to this game is incredible
it just sounds like 90s ambient-jungle.
For some reason they had this machine in a Chuck E. Cheese in New Jersey back in the day.
I was so young, the memory is hazy, its like a dream almost but I'm glad I got to see it in person once.
Me too, they had one at the Chuck E Cheese in Whitby, Ontario.
Good point about customer support. Arcades are all about making operators happy, and "good games the players put money into" is only one part of the picture. But Raw Thrills games are garbage. Doesn't matter who is making them. Modern arcade games are not designed to entice players to return again and again. They are designed for a dopamine rush for two minutes while you wait for a movie to start, or your friends to arrive at the bowling alley. The rubber banding in those Raw Thrills games ensures everyone gets a photo finish. In Cruis N Blast you can sit at the start for 30 seconds and still place in first by holding the accelerator.
There are still some good arcade games being produced and they're for Asian markets where people still play arcade games. Notably rhythm games with custom controllers that aren't easily replicatable at home. House of the Dead Scarlet Dawn is good and can be easily played at home via Teknoparrot, though it's one of the most common newer cabs.
I love Quick & Crash. Probably my favorite arcade game, neck and neck with this masterpiece
You can buy one here:
https://www.coinopexpress.com/products/machines/dedicated-machines/Magical-Truck-Adventure-1474.html
Guaranteed we're thinking of the same cheese establishment. I only ever saw this game in the ones near me in Jersey
From NJ and also saw this one too. I remember thinking how weird it was at the time, it’s such a Japanese game and a new sega property in the 2000s. Played it with my younger nephews when I went with them to CEC
Time Crisis 1 and 2, definitely more of the ladder for the double mode. Yes, there was the GunCon add-on for the home ports + extras that made them good ports, especially 2. But there is something about the arcade gun that makes it feel like a different experience. I loved playing that game and showing it off to my friends, especially my quick trigger finger skills I acquired by watching some old Japanese players play like that and beat one of the machines back then.
There's a bowling alley in south yarmouth, Cape Cod Mass that in the summer of 1999 had this beast. I must have unloaded $50 into it playing it over several summer weekends.
Idk if it was a custom job or what as I can't find a pic of it, but this version had an enclosed "wienerpit" over the seat complete with curtains you could close.
The place is an utter shithole now, the arcade machine long gone. Makes me depressed.
If it's an consolation, that thing is still SUPER common. Most bigger towns have at least one floating around somewhere.
Doesn't Raw Thrills make a lot of these Sega games now? People here seem to hate them. I see kids and families playing and enjoying them all the same.
>Doesn't Raw Thrills make a lot of these Sega games now?
Sega made the Jurassic Park games in the 1990s, and paid the movie studios to use the license for like 10 years. Then the Sega Jurassic Park license expired, and Sega didn't care or didn't want to renew it.
Raw Thrills is an American arcade company. They made the newest Jurassic Park games based on the latest JP movies that came out in the late 2010s.
>People here seem to hate them.
People here hate anything new. The ironic part is that most people here don't realize that Raw Thrills was founded by former Midway employees. Midway - the same company that made Ms. Pacman, Mortal Kombat, NFL Blitz, NBA Jam, Cruisin USA, Hydro Thunder, and a ton of other hit games.
Basically...Sega, SNK, Capcom, Namco, and all the Japanese Manufacturers closed down their North American arcade factories in the early 2000s. These Japanese companies thought arcades were dead outside of Japan, and practically abandoned everyone overnight.
And when I say abandoned, I mean it. Arcades in North America couldn't even get spare parts anymore for many Japanese arcade cabinet games. They were like "What the frick Sega and Namco? How are we supposed to repair your games and keep them running if you shut down the factories? This is bullshit."
Major Arcade businesses buy new machines every year. They also have a cycle of retiring old cabinets every 5 to 7 years. North America still had about 3000 arcades (even after the arcade market crashed). This includes theme park arcades, chain arcades like "Dave & Busters", indie arcades, etc. So these businesses still NEED new arcade machines.
The former Midway Employees saw an opportunity. They founded Raw Thrills in America, and made brand new arcade cabinet games. These games were fun and addressed the needs of North American Arcade businesses. With great customer service and support, Raw Thrills grew to be the biggest arcade manufacturer today in North America.
>These games were fun
no they are not, they're slop
>People here hate anything new
yeah because new video games are made for profit by executives, not for fun by people who actually enjoy gaming
>no they are not, they're slop
>slop
You're going to have to do better than using buzzwords you found on Ganker. Use your brain and actually describe what's wrong with them.
here seem to hate them.
>People here hate anything new.
>Raw Thrills is an American arcade company. They made the newest Jurassic Park games based on the latest JP movies that came out in the late 2010s.
they're not /vr/...is not hate. just rules.
Well technically...Raw Thrills was founded in 2000. Right around when Nintendo Gamecube first came out. So the company still counts as /vr/ and breaks no rules.
>With great customer service and support, Raw Thrills grew to be the biggest arcade manufacturer today in North America
Damn dude do you actually work there
No I have a couple arcades in my area. I'm a regular and know the owners, and we often talk about arcades. I asked them what they thought about Raw Thrills VS Sega and the other Japanese companies.
They said that Raw Thrills have really good customer support and get replacement parts quickly. For one owner...in 2022 Raw Thrills repaired his old racing arcade machine from 2004 even though it was far beyond warranty. They sent him a brand new gameboard/pcb. He just needed to pay for shipping. From a business perspective the owners really like it.
Meanwhile one guy complained about Bandai Namco taking forever to respond to their issues (one guy had a PCB problem with Maximum Tune and had to send it back twice to Japan). Then when he got it back, he says they didn't do anything, and the Japanese left a note claiming it worked fine. One of his Maximum Tune machines still randomly shuts off and restarts. They refuse to listen to him.
And the other complaints were that the Japanese companies were just too pricey. Why buy a standard Japanese cab when Raw Thrills offers a Deluxe Cabinet for cheaper?
I will say that I do think Raw Thrills plays it too safe and mostly focused on licensed brands to make games. It's gets really boring to always see Fast and Furious/Halo/Jurassic Park/etc. They play well enough, but I want to see some originality.
I miss when Sega and Namco were constantly at each other's throats and releasing new arcade machines almost every month in the 1990s. You walk into an arcade and every single time it would be a new machine. Namco Time Crisis 1 then 2 then 3....VS Sega Virtua Cop 1 then 2...etc. Constantly trying to outdo eachother. Making huge mega arcade machines like pic related. The competitive nature of the old days seems to be missing from the modern era.
If all the Japanese places left then why are there still new Mario, Sonic and Pac Man cabinets being made and sold?
>If all the Japanese places left then why are there still new Mario, Sonic and Pac Man cabinets being made and sold?
In general, most of those cabinets are made in Japanese factories, shipped by boat, and imported into North America.
For a few games, Japanese companies may subcontract out the work to a local Ameridan arcade companies like Raw Thrills. They pay Raw Thrills a fee to make it locally (which is sometimes cheaper than shipping across the ocean), and they split the profits from the sales of the arcade machines.
>bowling alley in south yarmouth,
i prefer bowling arcade games, but those seem to be dying too. there's an actual half-sized bowling alley in my local arcade now. cost about as much to play there as a real bowling alley. meh.
Summer of 99 fricking ruled. Must have played that then for the first time too. I think it was at islands of adventure, the first summer they opened up. Dr. Doom arcade was an adrenaline rush like no other as a kid. You lose your guts freefalling then you exit to one of the most kino arcades I’ve ever seen.
1993 GOTY baby.
marble madness
Nicr design. But that is a hilariously small screen for such a big arcade machine. I expected the screen to be twice the size.
You don't need that big of that screen when most of the gameplay in Golgo 13 requires you to peek at the scope.
best ride at Disneyland for a while even though I preferred After Burner
Oh yes, definitely this one. If I'll ever have infinite money...
As a 31 year old man, How do i step foot into an arcade without looking like a paedophile ?
Look at the games, not the kids
My eyes go where they go
Sounds comfy
Good idea
>My eyes go where they go
So you actually are one
Time for me to get off this board
There's an arcade by me that is geared more towards nostalgic adults. Tons of great retro games. Flat fee to enter and everything is on free play. Might want to look for something like that.
They get dunked on a lot but barcades are another option. There's a handful in my city but there was one that was independently ran and operated by a guy who loved old arcades. It actually had well maintained machines. They have some rare/interesting stuff as well like those Nintendo Red Tent machines. Most of the ones I've been to have a shit selection and poorly maintained cabinets though.
where at anon? Flat free unlimited play arcades are really rare. Ours went out of business in Chattanooga a long time ago
Indianapolis. Very nice place. They have a selection of consoles too.
https://www.bossbattlegames.com/
I just glanced at the event schedule...Looks like the place is ran by furries lmao
There's a place called Spinners in Frederick, MD. Flat fee to enter and 4-5 huge rooms full of pinball machines on free play.
Reading these posts inspired me to go to my own right near me. Just got back. Good call, friends, it was most excellent, even just going alone. I loved it! The amount and variety of cabs were lovely.
Video related, because I had never seen a Crazy Taxi cab in person before, and it's been like a dream of mine.
If you guys want the audio version:
https://streamable.com/dpyk9i
Glad you had fun anon, mine closed up many years ago. I miss them
I think I've been to this exact arcade. Is that target gun game next to that DDR2 Machine working yet?
Area 51, and yea, I played it! :3
Whoops, sorry, you said next to DDR, my brain spazzed and thought the opposite. Not sure actually. I think I saw people using it, so I think so.
Gotcha, thank you. Honestly awesome to see my local arcade on this website of all places lol.
You go on weekdays during school hours.
are you posting from the 90's?
No, what difference would that make
Kids don't go to the arcades anymore bro, when was the last time you were in one? It's literally all young to old adults. Their appeal is basically solely with retroheads and rhythm gamers now.
>Kids don't go to the arcades anymore bro,
Not true.
>when was the last time you were in one?
Last week.
>It's literally all young to old adults.
That's 10 year old having a birthday party with his friends and family I saw at an arcade must be secretly 30 years old!
You are projecting. You havent been in an arcade in years. The one who is isolated from the world is you.
They do but it’s mostly just the modern family fun entertainment centers full of redemption shit, carnival games, phone apps and Raw Thrills slop, basically casinos for kids.
The classic arcades filled with actual video games from the 80s-early 00s mostly cater to nostalgic adults or retro gamers, if you see kids there then it’s probably their’s.
Yeah. I went to an arcade in Little Tokyo before it closed down and I didn't see any kids. On the other hand other arcades morphed into what you mentioned, a bunch of mobile looking games blown up on a huge screen like Flappy Bird. The kind of game that is now released appeals to a different crowd.
It's the Japanese companies to blame. They abandoned America and Europe and closed many of their arcade divisions.
>full of redemption shit, carnival games
>casinos
You say that like that's a new thing. They've been doing it for a LONG time. You just never noticed.
>this is still not available on MAME
i really want to try it. fricking love silent scope but this is one that i haven't played before. there's exclusive music in this one as well that wasn't included in the official soundtrack release (neither was silent scope 3's soundtrack but that game is fricking atrocious)
>redemption shit, carnival games,
that's been there since the 90s AFAIK. also those basketball hoop games are an all-time classic.
only the UFO catcher trend is newish.
does this count?
Does that even count as a game if you can't lose?
>he doesn't know
very koolaid, brah
https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=lBlKnsVQp0s
Daytona, 4+ setup.
Every single console port is complete trash and irrelevant. Non of them capture the feeling of the arcade.
I remember having to lean pretty hard left or right to register the input. Was fun.
On second thought the leaning controls might have been a different game. Anyone know?
Cyber Cycles and Manx TT Superbike had you leaning the bike to steer.
The bike in OutRun 100% tilts. Last time I played it, I cheesed the first round by putting my feet on the ground. It's MUCH harder when you have to tilt it with your body weight.
*Hang-On
Damn, I was living a lie. Never actually played the Hang-On arcade, always thought it's controlled by leaning. Next you'll tell me Outrun had little buttons for steering and the wheel was fake
I also thought Hang On also leaned to steer. The coin box in that photo also seems to suggest such. But the posts the bike is mounted on look pretty rigid.
can't believe non of you gaylords have posted this classic yet. the arcade experience was the ONLY way that did it justice. back in the 80s when the gun peripheral actually looked real too.
>actually looked real too.
lol. fake toy gun is so real.
Based Operation wolf enjoyer. I like that he had an uzi with a granade launcher
>gaylords
Are you 12?
shut up you gay homo
Based oldgay. The B&I in Tacoma, Washington of Ivan the gorilla fame had one and it's one of my most cherished arcade memories. Back in the 80s that place was CROWDED.
Nice cabinet too.
Tempest
Marble Madness
Warlords
game sucks ass
Baby's first pac man (literally)
looks cool, shame there's none near me on pinside
Ridge Racer Full Scale.
Playing it on a home console is not even close.
Christ I'd love to play this
A real car.
I was lucky enough to play this at Blackpool while it was still there. It was honestly in a pretty bad state of disrepair but it was still cool as frick and I'm glad to have had the chance.
On the flipside I've never played a real After Burner machine despite it being one of my favourite arcade games. Hopefully one day I'll come across one.
This is straddling the line between video game and theme park attraction.
>mfw drive one of those things for real so image does nothing to me
best ones
i'm missing some House Of The Dead, Time Crisis or some D A Y T O N A
Same anon, I got to play House of the Dead 2 and Daytona USA 2 as well. It was coom.
The 2.5d was so much more aesthetic than the 3D second one
there's an arcade i frequent nearby that has this game, i've never played it but it's cool to see
i couldn't tell what the game was from the thumbnail and was coming to post Lucky and Wild
i think the other one is the Sniper game, silent shot maybe? Time Crisis and House of the Dead were special too. Virtua Fighter.
silent scope, good shit
sega airline pilots and sega f355 challenge (same setup)
A lot of these games would still be in use if it weren't for the fact the CRT monitors go bad, and not many people out there can can do CRT monitor repair anymore.
I'm surprised there isn't a business out there that doesn't specialize in repairing arcade machines. There's several places in my small town that have arcades, seems like it would be easy business for the repairman.
>I'm surprised there isn't a business out there that doesn't specialize in repairing arcade machines. There's several places in my small town that have arcades, seems like it would be easy business for the repairman.
There are a few. TNT Amusements is probably the biggest repair/refurb/sell arcade shop in the USA. But most retro arcades prefer to do repairs themselves to save money. Shipping big items is expensive too.
The biggest issue is finding spare parts for these old CRT arcade screens. Especially for behemoth ones like Virtua Racing Deluxe ( pic related). A "wide screen" 36 inch CRT. It's the only CRT arcade monitor I know of with a wide screen CRT. I could be wrong, but I've never seen it used in any other cab.
There was someone I knew who owned one, but he says he can't find anyone locally in his city to do the CRT monitor repair. The screen doesn't work but everything else is fine. He looked for a year and finally swapped for an LCD just so he can play it. But kept the huge CRT. He still hopes to find someone who can repair it.
I find it bizarre everyone was working on CRTs just 15 years ago, but now those same people refuse to touch them.
>wanna work on a heavy piece of equipment that is awkward to handle, carries more than enough charge to kill you, and can explode if you accidentally drop it?
>oh, and you can't replace the tube if you damage it while trying to repair/move it
>and many parts can't be replaced since no one makes them anymore, so if the yoke is dying out you've just wasted your time diagnosing a TV you can't repair
Unless they have a vested interest in keeping CRT TV's alive, there is no incentive to repair CRT's. Too much risk of lost money for too little reward.
Many in the arcade community can do CRT repair. You have to look beyond expecting to find TV repair shops as that whole business model died with the disposable culture and increased integration and lack of repairability. CRT implosion is a nonissue unless you actively defeat the tension band (or fool with 1950s round tubes, which do actually detonate like bombs sometimes). Everything but proprietary "jungle chips" is generally available and flybacks etc usually last. Yokes are so simple some have rewound their own for various experiments with vector monitors. With the insane prices PVM etc. pro monitors bring now (bigger BVMs go for thousands) there are more people with the skills all the time.
>Repairing is ded biz
i've met aircraft technicians who knew how to repair CRTs, and they worked for bottom dollar in the SEA monkee airline biz, where they get retrenched whenever an airline goes bust or fuel prices get too high.
Played this in the early 2010s. It was surprisingly entertaining.
airline pilots is so fricking ass
Those can more-or-less be played with a 3 monitor setup. Sega Strike Fighter, however, ran on the same machine but with a way more complicated input panel.
The aviation museum near me still has one of those that works flawlessly, things a blast to play.
Pima Air Museum in Tucson? Was there last year.
captcha: MANSKY
For some reason I really like this old skeeball design. The new machines with LEDs everywhere just look too tacky to me.
Thrustmaater t300rs and a sinden lightgun.
Done.
I bet most anons here haven't played this. It's only something that can be played in person.
I'd play it (posted me being in person in this thread) but I've never heard of let alone seen this game before. Looks cool.
Remember When in Wildwood New Jersey had one, so I've played it. I have no idea if it's at the new location, though.
The trick is finding one with the plastic can thing intact. Rad fricking game though.
Coolest game I've gotten a chance to play in person. It's a vector game where the vector graphics are projected onto a wooden playfield complete with pits that your guy can fall into. It had no AI so you could only play it vs another player.
Also q-bert.
>the vector graphics are projected onto a wooden playfield complete with pits that your guy can fall into
Reminds me of the Namco arcade game "Golly Ghost" where the projected ghosts interact with a moving diorama.
soul
more futuristic than anything we have now
I was just thinking about making an 18 Wheeler post the other day. Based.
The game can't be emulated. It's definitely something you should experience in person.
can be done in VR, but looks like ass anyway.
>I miss when Sega and Namco were constantly at each other's throats
Sega is pretty much dead except for "new" gambling machines released in nippon-only. and maybe Yakuza games. but that's not /vr/.
Namco merged with Bandai i think? they're just releasing endless gachas now.
>
>can be done in VR, but looks like ass anyway.
Dyer was obsessed with laserdisc games with no gameplay. This guy who made that machine was also infamous for this interview on his (also failed) laserdisc console. Gary Kildall's reaction to the AI claims made is classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeI5zKeGELA
>LDs will replace floppies!
how wrong he was.
I mean he wasn't CD replaced everything and CD are just tiny laz0r0x discs, the LD did come first. Its crazy how LD was from the 70's. Its also crazy how LD found uses other than for video considering the price for a unit.
I fricking love Gary's autism. He's not gonna let these guys shill without calling them out. Computer Chronicles was never the same after they lost Gary. It because this shitty consoomer marketing show. All of the 80s episodes at least try to be educational.
Jet blaster or wave runner or whatever
>found out there's one about a 3 hour drive away from me
>pretty sure its the only cabinet of its kind in my country
>its at a completely random small arcade in bumfrick nowhere with a tiny flat entry fee for unlimited play
I played this once in Little Tokyo, LA some years ago. Shit was so fun.
I'm planning on driving out there in the next few months to play it.
learned about it from this video
thanks, anon. i forgot the name of this shit. i punched it hard until my knuckles bleed with manly tears.
>that foam with the bitten portion
Fangs of the North Star was there.
It's mandatory that you scream "ATATATA ! !" when playing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIvcWqzTHw8
This has shown up at most anime cons I've been to, play it everytime and it's a blast
Do they still have that Daytona 2 cab at the Gameworks in Seattle?
Pretty much any lightgun game needs to be played on a cabinet
i've seen a BIOHAZARD version, but the text was still in english?
This one is awesome
Those are actually joystick based games, the stick is inside the gun.
My friend owns one of these. I had to help him move it from one house to another. I still haven't forgiven him.
Is it that heavy or hes upstairs?
Arcade cabinets are several hundred pounds. Even the basic ones. You need a dolly or some friends to you move it.
You think that's impressive? I've seen someone put a Time Crisis 3 deluxe arcade cabinet in the third floor of their house. That must have been crazy.
i think i've seen a version of this in the 90s. but it was stationary and don't move around.
Densha de Go in the giant box cabinet with the provided conductor's hat and coat, what other games let you dress the part while you're playing?
if the threads still alive by the time i get out there I'll record a ATATATATATA video anon
Yes! hahaha
settled it lads, taking the pilgrimage for fist of the north star kino Thursday, will post pics if thread is still alive
stfu
suck my pp anon, learn to drive gay.
Bueno
Very good.
Atatatatatata
Sega rally champion ship
Hydro thunder
What is the most eurocore arcade cabinet?
What would that mean.
the frick is "eurocore"?
Silent Scope. You just can't replicate it with a light gun without making the screen too bright.
I'm so annoyed at the new Silent Scope arcade game that Konami made. Has anyone tried the latest modern one?
They got rid of the full rifle!
(I heard because they wanted to tone down the violent aspects of the game to customers.) So all you have is the trigger handle and scope. That's it. No cool Full sized rifle to spark the imagination.
They also chose a terrible cabinet design. The cab is short. Like the size of kiddie ride, or a child sized arcade game you would find at Chuck E Cheese. I have no idea why. We're they trying to be cheap and save money?
The cab has no seat either. Looking at the cab you would think maybe you kneel, but nope the gun is mounted at a weird mid height. Not low enough to kneel but not high enough to just stand. You can't kneel down fully. So you end up having to do with weird "half kneel" where you only sorta bend your knees half way, and you must lean forward too. It's uncomfortable to play especially for long periods, and you look like idiot playing it.
They original Silent Scope cab design was the best! What were you thinking Konami!
>What were you thinking Konami!
Konami haven't been good for decades now.
I'm so glad I managed to finish it once when I was a kid. Used 3 coins because that was my allowance and then the guy next to me just said to keep using his. Never saw the cabinet ever since.
BASED AND JEALOUS
I guess people were just more chill and cool back then. It was at a mall that had a supermarket inside, so every week when my mom went shopping I'd start by staying at the Xbox in the games selling area playing Jet Set Radio, then she'd go to the cafés and restaurants area and give me 1 to 3 coins to go to the arcades. I usually went for Time Crisis 2, which I also finished due to another guy telling me to use his coins. Another favourite was Crazy Taxi. Also had Manx TT Superbike, Sega Rally for 2 players, I think F1 Super Lap for 2 players, Tekken Tag Tournament (which I remember a guy having to leave so told me to continue his gameplay), Radikal Bikers, Wacky Gator, Air Hokey (a must play when with friends and make the disc fly down the hall due to hammering the shitter), 3 pinball machines, table football and I think snooker, along with other machines I can't remember. Probably didn't have Metal Slug nor Puzzle Bubble because pretty much every café had one of them, along with a darts machine.
Then sometimes, we'd finish the day by going to mall's cinema. Instead of popcorn I had Cheetos Footballs. For some reason the big bags at the cinema, unlike the supermarket ones, pretty much always had more than 1 pog/tatoo/wtv. Usually had 2, but sometimes 3.
Good times man. Now the mall is empty af, there's a different supermarket there and the cinema area is a chinese store...
Silly me, how could I forget, it also had DAYYYYYTOOOONAAAAAAAAAAAAA, which I swear was the loudest one and could be heard down the hallway.
Mitsuyoshi must be heard
Good choice. The only major reason this machine isn't seen more often is because the rear projection screen was a pain in the Butt to maintain for arcade owners. You have to replace the bulbs periodically. And sometimes the screens were poorly designed and leaked coolant/fluid from the projector onto the electronics sitting beneath the screen. Which ended up killing it or damaging it. But back in the 90s there was only two choices: CRTs or rear projection cabs if you wanted a big screen.
FFFFUUUUHHHCCKKK that image is a save.
Nothing beats the REAL classic
Its a shame we never got that cancelled Wii port, spent so many tokens at CEC on this b***h
these games are such ripoffs and unfun.
How do they ripoff?
overpriced for the amount of "tickets" they can potentially spit out. and unfun.
Crisis Zone.
One of the best arcade lightgun games ever game. So many modern games just increase the graphic quality and that's it. But this game allows you to destroy so many different items on screen, and go crazy with the Uzi machine gun. It really feels like you can destroy the environment.
Not playable in Mame or any emulation. And even if you could emulate it, you can't play it since it uses a special gun for the controls. The gun is different from all other lightgun games made. Only this arcade cabinet used it before Namco changed the guns to something more standard.
Didn't that get a port to PS2 and a spiritual successor?
The Crisis Zone PS2 port is bad. I'm hesitant to even call it a port.
1. They completely changed the graphics for some unknown reason. The colors, textures, environment, and uniform designs are completely different. They made it dark and gritty for PS2. The arcade version had bright colors and it was vibrant.
2. The physics system isnt as good on PS2. In the arcade version, enemies react differently depending on where you shoot them. In PS2, they always have the same death animation no matter where you shoot. Also, the PS2 doesn't let you destroy as much of the environment like the arcade version does.
3. BIGGEST SIN of them all... When you fire your machine gun in the PS2 version, massive clouds of smoke covers the entire screen. I'm not exaggerating. The entire literal screen. I have zero clue why they did this. I guess they were trying to show off the PS2's smoke rendering graphics? Either way it ruins the game and makes it unplayable. Smoke covers the entire screen when you shoot your gun. It's bad. I can't play it.
Whoever did the PS2 port should be fired. They changed way too much that it's a different game. It's the exact opposite of what Sega does with their Dreamcast arcade ports which are basically almost the exact same as the arcade version.
Imagine Marvel VS Capcom for Dreamcast, but they decided to completely change the stages and uniforms of the characters and changed the music. Then added flashing lights whenever you attacked an enemy. The Fighting Game Community would have rioted.
That's what Crisis Zone is for PS2.
>BIGGEST SIN of them all... When you fire your machine gun in the PS2 version, massive clouds of smoke covers the entire screen. I'm not exaggerating. The entire literal screen. I have zero clue why they did this.
because the light gun works by flashing the screen, with crisis zone you have a machine gun that's constantly firing so the screen needs to be bright when it's being used to track it
in the arcade they use some kind of mirror so you don't notice it
it's really not that bad of a port there was no other way to do it. they also added a new campaign and challenge stages.
in time crisis 3 when you play with the girl and use the sniper rifle, they did something similar by making everything around your aiming rectangle be very bright
I agree, same thing with the time crisis two port for the visuals. These games had that absolutely perfect delicious polygonal early 3d look to them and the PS2 ports smoothed everything out to look more realistic and I absolutely despise it.
>find arcade 1h30m from me
>claims to have more than 60 cabinets and consoles
>mix of old and new
>look at photos
>only the ones with a weel, pistol, etc are original, which is about 8
>rest is arcade1up emulating the games (there's a photo with the frontend menu)
>retro consoles connected to 16:9 LCDs, image stretched
I'll stay at home and play on my CRT TV+Wii+PS3 and CRT Monitor+LCD+PC, thanks.
Where do you live?
Pic related is my favorite. We had a Virtual On cabinet at my local arcade in the 90s. I loved playing those mecha. It's just not the same at home.
Are you using the right search terms?
You need to use the search terms:
- Retro Arcade
- Arcade Museum
- Barcade
Make sure to search on Google Maps. Old websites aren't as reliable. There's usually at least one in driving distance. Sometimes they call themselves a weird name like "Jack's Amazing world of Amusement" or something like that.
>look at photos
Try to look up YouTube tour videos before going. There are actually several niche channels where all they do is travel the country and film tours of different arcades.
>Are you using the right search terms?
Better
https://retro.directory/map
Most places just don't care and the way they make money is by selling overpriced food and drinks.
Uh, well map's wrong. Just came from a place literally down the street that has hundreds of original machines from every era. It is indeed a Google Maps situation
Also, not the anon you're replying to
>It is indeed a Google Maps situation
that website doesn't use google maps, it used community based input. then again, I'm in England, where people don't care as much about this kind of stuff and the mentality is so backwards that if you watch anime instead of getting drunk down the pub every day until you got no money left by the end of the month then you're not a man
Fug. My condolences then.
>Virtual On
i played once back in the day. i don't get the hype /vr/ gave it years ago.
Remember the time this machine came out. It was basically the grand daddy of all 3D mecha games. The first of its kind. And the first mecha arcade game many people were exposed to in arcades.
It's fun to play, the control sticks are a unique moving mechanic and the way the cabinet is constructed to look like a wienerpit adds to immersion. It's a genuinely neat experience to play.
I would always play the virtual on machines.
Remember primal rage? This was one of the last arcade cabinets I saw in malls before the great arcade exodus around the late 90s moving into early 2000s. Arcades became barren as most kids could just do all their gaming at home on any of the big three consoles.. let's see. There was the N64, PS1 and saturn.. by the time we got to the Xbox Gen consoles our consoles were pretty powerful gaming computers. Those were pretty tough for the arcades to compete with.
Primal rage still hasn't been emulated accurately to this day.. though some guy made some big advancements in emulating it recently. Our local mall arcade had the huge ass XL cabinet. I still have the memory of a huge crowd standing near the primal rage cabinet and not even being able to see it but you could hear the dinosaur sounds coming from it.
>xl cabinet not Pic related.
Galloping Ghost arcade has a super rare Primal Rage 2 prototype arcade cabinet. I think the only one in the world.
>great arcade exodus around the late 90s moving into early 2000s. Arcades became barren as most kids could just do all their gaming at home on any of the big three consoles.. let's see. There was the N64, PS1 and saturn.. by the time we got to the Xbox Gen consoles our consoles were pretty powerful gaming computers. Those were pretty tough for the arcades to compete with.
Another big issue was porting arcade games to consoles. In the short term, arcade game companies made a ton of money with people buying ports. Game companies thought people would go to arcades AND buy a game port for home use. They thought double the money would come.
Lmao. Nope. Why go to the arcade to play Tekken or Ridge Racer when you could just play at home? So most kids stayed at home instead of going to the arcade. Ports helped killed the arcade business. It was a mistake that arcade manufacturers won't repeat.
Today, arcade manufacturers are very strongly against porting their games to consoles. Almost no modern arcade games get ported. The focus is on creating an "experience" people can't get at home.
>Ports helped killed the arcade business.
Barely. Arcade is too expensive compared to home console. Porting or not arcade games changes nothing to that.
>Arcade is too expensive compared to home console.
You are just wrong. An arcade game is 25 to 50 cents. Buying a home console game is $60 to $75 dollars. Sometimes more for certain games.
>An arcade game is 25 to 50 cents
For what? 2 minutes of play?
Get good
Compared to the price on my home console, it's expensive. Even for the best players in the world.
You really think Virtua Racing on the Sega Genesis is the same experience as using the arcade machine? Lmao
I'm playing the emulated arcade version with a PS4 controller. No it's not the same experience. But Virtua Racing has only 3 tracks and 1 car. I won't spend my life playing only one arcade racing game, that's too limited.
>I'm playing the emulated arcade version
Lmao
You aren't even using a console.
You aren't even playing the console port.
Console ports? Why I would play something ported to digital input when I have something supporting analog input?
>I'm playing on emulation for free.
Ok? So wtf are you doing here. This isn't an emulation thread.
The worst part is that he's not even emulating the Sega Genesis version of the game. He's playing the ARCADE VERSION which defeats his own argument. He's basically admitting the arcade version is superior.
There are two conversations in parallel. One about Virtua Racing. I won't even try to argue saying that's the MegaDrive version is better. Racing games were shit on consoles until analog triggers appear, and one can buy a wheel if needed today.
But it doesn't change the fact that playing arcade games is fricking expensive compared to console. My minute of play is far below 0.01 cent on consoles. Except for air hockey, I don't see the point on going spend my money with arcade machines.
Because your emulating it for FREE.
We are discussing arcades VS consoles. Not arcades VS Mame.
We're discussing about what killed arcade gaming. I focused on consoles because I'm a console player, mostly. Arcade gaming was killed by home gaming (consoles + computers) because of its price. Today arcade gaming is irrelevant in the gaming industry. It was (and still is) too expensive.
Having actually lived through the late 80s and 90s, I can tell you what killed arcades was that consoles caught up to arcades in terms of graphics. The cracks started to show in PS1 and N64 era. By the time the Dreamcast was released, there was almost no difference in graphics quality. So my friends and I stayed home. We never talked about price.
I would argue this (pic related) is a far more valuable and a better experience than playing a crappy console port.
And what is it compared to playing a modern home racing simulator?
I love those big screens
those look cool. but 1st gen 3D was fricking ugly.
>I'm playing the emulated arcade version with a PS4 controller.
Not /vr/
>he says this with a mouthful of cheetos on his $1000 dollar gaming PC and PS4 which cost several hundred dollars.
Lol
>And what is it compared to playing a modern home racing simulator?
not /vr/
I have a shitty PC, everybody has one today. And the price by hour of my console is near 0.
>not /vr/
The debate is about what killed (in the past, ie retro) arcade and why it failed to come back.So totally /vr/.
>
But it doesn't change the fact that playing arcade games is fricking expensive compared to console. My minute of play is far below 0.01 cent on consoles. Except for air hockey, I don't see the point on going spend my money with arcade machines.
>>he says this with a mouthful of cheetos on his $1000 dollar gaming PC and PS4 which cost several hundred dollars.
>Lol
who the frick are you quoting? no one said that? not even close!
By pumping in 60 bucks in quarters
Only for really shitty games. Good arcade games reward you with longer play if you're good. I can get 20 minutes of play on one credit of Crazy Taxi without much issue. I can usually go a good 5-10 minutes on a couple light gun games, too.
Still more expensive than the price with my console. I played 115 hours of GT7, it costed me 60 euros. And I will play more. Do the math anon.
Brave Firefighters
>these arcade machines would still be around if their crt screens didn't fail.
I honestly can't believe that CRTs are considered rare and somewhat hard to maintain now. I grew up in the late 80s and 90s. How can things change so much in 20 years? Didn't this world make millions of CRT televisions? How can CRTs be rare now. Its mind boggling
>How can CRTs be rare now
As they fail they ended up in a landfield and once LCDs dropped in price people trashed their CRTs. As for arcades, manufacturers stopped using CRT and only a certain number of machines and spare parts were made. Business owners prefer LCD too due to lower energy costs, less maintenance and less space used.
except for lightgun games, they don't NEED CRTs.
jambo safari
That's what you get for not stockpiling spare CRT arcade monitors after the last CRT factory shutdown in the late 2000s. I saw this situation coming a mile away.
Did you think reserves would last forever? You got 10 years before CRTS got scarce. Be grateful for that!
Any arcade owner worth their salt would have stocked up on spare parts.
I drool.
but i rike LCD screens... mostly. i live in smol asian sized apartment!
Gun games based on sensors (such as Ghost Squad), work the same with flatscreens. Just unsettling to see a GoogleTV startup screen when the operator of the arcade switches it on. Hard part is stuff like Amplifones.
All of them.
I'm surprised no one mentioned Galaxian3. It came out in 1992 and was amazing for the time.
This arcade machine is basically the big grand daddy of all modern lightgun games.
>big grand daddy of all modern lightgun games
>92
This must be the huge grand grand daddy then, in the year 1973.
Apparently those are collectors items now.
wow, i saw those in arcades in the mid 80s, damn im old
Where can I play Galaxian 3?
The only publicly-available place is the "Video Game Museum Robot Fukaya" in Fukaya, Saitama.
All the other known machines are in the hands of private collectors.
>Imagine Marvel VS Capcom for Dreamcast, but they decided to completely change the stages and uniforms of the characters and changed the music. Then added flashing lights whenever you attacked an enemy. The Fighting Game Community would have rioted.
That was basically the reaction they had to Capcom vs. SNK 2 EO.
>The only publicly-available place is the "Video Game Museum Robot Fukaya" in Fukaya, Saitama.
Is that a picture of the Museum you were talking about?
Pretty sure it is
>The only publicly-available place is the "Video Game Museum Robot Fukaya" in Fukaya, Saitama.
Are you sure? I couldn't find any pictures of it. All I saw on the inside was just rows and rows of candy cabs and a few driving games. To be honest...the ceiling doesn't even look tall enough to put the machine inside.
Another angle. Just lots of old candy cabs.
>Where can I play Galaxian 3?
No idea. But I once knew a guy around 2007 who had one in a storage warehouse in Texas. It was complete but disassembled (because he bought it cheap from a Dave and Busters that was getting rid of it). He had all the parts and was planning on reassembling in a personal arcade. I haven't spoken to him in many years. So at minimum, there must be a few in private collector hands. Not sure about public arcades.
I played this once at a Dave and Busters when I was really young and it was stupid expensive compared to all the other games but super cool.
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I'm honestly very surprised that more Galaxian 3 machines did Not survive. I saw them all the time in the early 2000s being sold on ebay and other auction sites. Arcades were getting rid of them. Being sold for as little as $2000. I'm kicking myself for not buying one of them. Now they are ultra rare super duper collectors Unicorn machines.
>not one 18 Wheeler American Pro Trucker picture
FOR SHAME
Don't get wienery. Respect your elders young man.
i said trucker
Any of those games that use a card system
what
in the hecko
>arcade closes. or machine dies.
suddenly all your shit cards are useless and no one will buy them from you.
Those are the weirdest things because there's a ton of them in Japan but they have neither home nor international releases. Entire genre that's just local to Japan
They shouldn't even be that hard to emulate with mouse controls and digital "cards" but since they have no following the west noone will ever bother
The combination of the unique control scheme and the linked cabinets make it a novelty that will never be properly replicated in emulation.
The Space Harrier moving cabinet was pretty incredible to play as a kid, it's all I would think about the whole week until my dad would take me to the arcades in the weekend
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Multiple people posted it but I've played flash games with that scope mechanic... It's really not hard to recreate on one screen, you just move the scope around the screen with a mouse. Not the same obviously but close enough
>but close enough
Low standards
Well recreate it in VR then Mr. high standards. There's a whole bunch of VR games with that exact scope mechanic, I think even Pavlov rifles work like that
Anon is not insulting emulation. I think he's saying that using a mouse is a crappy substitute. I have to agree.
It's like playing Dance Dance Revolution on a keyboard with your fingers. Sure it *could* be done, but what's the point? The game was designed to played on a specific cabinet with your feet.
Anyone remember Sega Scud Race?
I remember going camping when I was a kid in the early to mid 2000's and they had an arcade at the campground. Every year they pretty much always had 2 crusin worlds linked and it definitely became my favorite arcade racer ever. I have such an attachment to it that if I ever heard that theme song playing again anywhere it would probably bring me to tears. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU1D73q0PLw
Do you have any love for the other Cruisin games? Like Cruisin USA or Exotica?
At least, I'm not aware of any good controllers for playing Tempest at home.
discs of tron booth
If any anons are in Arizona, the Martin Auto Museum has a free play arcade room. They've got SF2 CE, Donkey Kong, Ms Pacman, 5 or 6 pinball tables, and some linked up racing and motorcycle sit down games for head to head. It's a nice little bonus on what is already a pretty rad car museum.
Out Run 2 on the Deluxe arcade machine. Everyone should try it at least one.
that sugoi ass.
Who doesn't love the F50?
What kind of idiot argues that consoles are cheaper than arcades? It's literally the exact opposite. You spend hundreds of dollars to pay for a console just for the convenience of playing at home. Its way more expensive.
My family didn't have a lot of money growing up. Spending a huge amount of money at once to buy a console was out of the question. But my parents could give me a few dollars each week. I saved that and went to the arcade near my house often on weekends.
It was the only way I had access to any video games as a kid. I made my quarters last and played some of my favorite games. Since my money was limited I focused really hard and became really good at certain specific games. Playing Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat against other kids was great when I kept a win streak going.
Arcades were for poor kids. Consoles were for rich kids.
>My family didn't have a lot of money growing up. Spending a huge amount of money at once to buy a console was out of the question. But my parents could give me a few dollars each week. I saved that and went to the arcade near my house often on weekends.
Do the math. What is the price by hour? Please, go study math. You pay your console once, yes, but you can play as much as you want. If instead on going to arcades, you had spared that money you could have buy a console and games in the long run. That's 101 economy.
>You pay your console once, yes,
My family never had hundreds of dollars in disposable income for a console and games. There was no "saving up". We were living paycheck to paycheck. My 5 dollars in occasional pocket money was one of the only luxuries I had as a kid.
>but you can play as much as you want.
Playing at home doesn't give you real practice. You don't get good playing alone against the computer in Street Fighter 2. The real pros were at the arcade. That's where you learned from others and got better.
>My 5 dollars in occasional pocket money was one of the only luxuries I had as a kid.
You're the minority in arcade gamers. Arcade is for the rich guys, the poor in my country have consoles or don't play at all.
>You don't get good playing alone against the computer in Street Fighter 2
I didn't play alone, I played with my friends. That's all I ask.
Here, as soon as we have the Master System or the Nes, we stop playing at arcade because it was too expensive for us.
>Arcade is for the rich guys, the poor in my country have consoles or don't play at all.
Your country sucks.
I know that English may not be your first language but this thread is about arcade games that are difficult or impossible to replicate with a home console.
Your home console is not able to do fancy tricks involving mirrors like Warrior or Golly Ghost
. Look at the picture in that post anon, your PC and console are not able to replicate that.
Yes you can play a racing game with a modern controller but you are not having the same experience as someone playing it on a cabinet that has a wheel and pedals and sometimes even has fancy displays or cars that you sit in.
Your decade old 360 controller is not the same as the control panel of a cabinet like virtual on.
Yes, street fighter with fightcade is a very close experience to old arcades as far as competition goes but we both know you are too stupid and lazy to assemble an arcade stick to make it feel more authentic.
Not to mention he can't replicate motion cabinets. Anon said he had a crappy old PC with a random controller. He's not getting the real experience.
The debate that started here
was about what killed arcade. I didn't say that the experience is the same. I said that it's not worth the price. That's all. Deal with it, arcade gaming is irrelevant today because it's too expensive.
And I'm not using a random controller, I'm using a PS4 controller, one of the best.
Frick your derail and frick your Xbox controller.
Ok, you're accepting the truth and now you're using insults instead of saying you were right.
Thanks for your concession and admitting that I am not even following your autistic derail and am instead here to discuss the thread topic, esoteric arcade control/display systems and cabinets that aren't able to be replicated on home systems.
That control system sounds really fun thank you for posting it.
>Ok, you're accepting the truth and now you're using insults instead of saying you were right.
Not only is your derail pathetic. But your completely wrong. In the 1990s, Arcade gaming was far cheaper. I can play any arcade game I want with a few quarters. You have to spend hundreds of dollars to own a console with an inferior console port. It's more expensive and a worse experience.
In the 1990s I don't have to worry about rent, electricity bills, owning a TV, owning the console, or owning the game. I can walk into a Laundromat arcade and drop 25 cents to play the game. And Stop talking about emulation because that shit didn't exist in the 1990s.
I don't know how your village in South America got gaming console (maybe you stole it), but consoles were for rich kids. Arcade cabinets were for regular and poor folks.
>I can play any arcade game I want with a few quarters. You have to spend hundreds of dollars to own a console with an inferior console port. It's more expensive and a worse experience.
You're comparing absolute value and refuse to compare the price by hour, and that it's what matters. Go back to math school anon.
It's not a good comparison because arcade ports weren't perfect until dreamcast, where the arcade hardware was the same as the console hardware. Please stop shitting up the thread with your derail.
People didn't care about arcade ports. They care about gaming and the price by hour. Today arcade gaming is just surviving because, yes, it offers something you can't have home. But it doesn't change the fact that it's expensive.
>People didn't care about arcade ports.
They did at first, but arcades started to die once consoles did more interesting original stuff. Can't have Gran Turismo on an arcade machine.
>People didn't care about arcade ports.
Everyone did in the 1970s/80s/90s. You weren't even born then. People wanted to play the best version they could get their hands on. Consoles existed for 20+ years but didn't kill arcades until Dreamcast came out.
People wanted to play Pac Mac in arcades. They didn't want to play the ridiculous Atari 2600 console port as their first choice.
I was born in 83.
>Dreamcast
Please, that console was a failure, come back to the real world Anon. Your inventing facts to defend your point.
As soon as we can game at home, arcade started dying.
People could game on home consoles since the 1970s you moron. Before you were born. Arcades existed since the 1910s, and were an incredibly massive booming business until around 1998. Almost 100 years of prosperity.
Now get out and stop derailing the thread.
>Please, that console was a failure, come back to the real world Anon.
You can go back further than that. Saturn was the console to own if you liked arcade games, and it flopped hard already.
Even with the ram expansion Saturn still had load times that the arcade system didn't have.
Dreamcast and Naomi were the same hardware you moron.
And what is the point? It doesn't change the fact that home gaming killed arcade because arcade is too expensive (except if you suck at math and doesn't know how to count money). That's the sole thing I say since the beginning.
And yes, the dreamcast is an historical failure as a console. Look at the figures. Dreamcast is irrelevant in gaming history. Almost nobody care about that console.
>home gaming killed arcade because arcade is too expensive
SEA monkee here. Arcades didn't die here, but yes it's expensive. It only got more expensive as more people decided to game at home or goto LAN shops for longer hrs of MasterRice gaming. Some LAN shops literally replaces Arcades, but they didn't get "killed".
If home gaming could kill arcades, it would have killed LAN shops too. They didn't. Some people still like to play with crowds and friends "outside". and not everyone can afford to build their arcade or LAN shop at home.
Your country is completely different to the Western arcade market.
yes. did i say otherwise? and from this thread, arcades in USA didn't "die" either.
>You're comparing absolute value and refuse to compare the price by hour, and that it's what matters. Go back to math school anon.
Your comparison makes no sense for the 1990s. Arcade games ported to consoles didn't even become the same until the Sega Dreamcast came out in 1999. Before that, all ported games were inferior (unless you owned a rare Neo Geo).
You clearly live in some 3rd World country, and judging from the way you type...English isn't your first language. You know nothing about arcade history and you know nothing about the arcade market in the western world. We get it. You're poor. Your village managed to steal some consoles when you were young so you got to play for free. And now you're still poor, and play emulated games on your "$0 dollar PC" and an Xbox 360 controller.
Ok, ad hominem and inventing facts. You're ridiculous.
Nothing like a classic
I used to frequent the arcade at my local dead mall and they would have 2 and 3 side by side. Nothing beats being the loudest butthole in the arcade by having the plastic gun constantly clacking as it recoils. I wish the Guncon controllers had recoil.
Those light guns in your picture are not original to the cabinet. It looks like the arcade owner replaced the original Namco ones with cheap generic ones with no recoil
I just realized lmao.
There are two oem variants that I recall:
1. Black with recoil
2. Same shape as black but in pink and blue
I used to work in an arcade. Unless 3D printing has changed prices since 2009 (when I left), then those guns cost several hundred dollars each - if you wanted to buy a replacement. Namco charged a fortune to replace them. They were the most expensive part of the machine and took the most abuse.
People would drop the guns on the ground, or slam the guns into the sides of the machine while walking away. We would put them on metal chains to prevent people from over extending the cables, or yanking the cords too hard. But it still got abused hard.
>I wish the Guncon controllers had recoil.
But they do
I was referring to the guncons bundled with the playstation ports, they lack it
I think it was this black one with the red button that I owned for PS1 for Time Crisis 1, and it definitely click clacked the frick out of my ears
aside from not being emulated, it should be fairly obvious why this will never be truly playable outside of an arcade
How do that control system work?
They have a cabinet of Cho Chabudai Gaeshi at the round one near me. It's a really quick play (flip table and watch the havoc it causes) but I can't resist playing it whenever I see it.
The whole game is played with two levers that can be pushed all the way to the other side (the red one can move all the way over to where the blue one is). The point of the game is that it's done with two players, each one holds a lever, then you have to physically push the person next to you since you're both trying to push your level into their side of the field.
The actual game is a bunch of minigames, most of which you can sabotage your opponent by shoving them off-course.
I took my girlfriend there this weekend, table flipping game is gone and has been replaced by more ufo catchers. I wanna cry anons.
Can't be emulated properly and never will.
One of my fav arcade games
How come we don't get fun creative games like this anymore? It's always the same slop these days. Driving game, shooting game, or maybe a rhythm game.
For starters arcade boards went from bespoke hardware to regular PC parts running Windows Embedded.
Not that anon that you are replying to. But it I also want to add that I've actually asked a few people in the industry about this. The answer I got from several people is that during the 80s and 90s, Namco was filled with creative people who were willing to take risks to stay at the top of the arcade market. But after Namco merged with Bandai in the 2000s, they became very conservative. The creative people at Namco retired. Bandai-Namco of today prefers to stick to releasing sequels and franchise games. It's just NOT the same group of employees who made Namco great in the past. A completely different generation of employees that would never make something like pic related.
>the 80s and 90s, Namco was
bubble economy money encouraged risk. money ran out in the early 90s as nippon fell into endless recession/0 GDP growth.
I am literally obsessed with this game. I'm at the point where I may try to recreate it at home on my arcade with a custom write to emulate the game. I have a swappable control deck to match the controller.
Please tell us how it plays/works. I've never played it.
there is a longboard wheel that controls steering up and down. a button for gas and a technique tapping the button fast to get through patches of sand. there are some youtubes where you can see the gameplay. black emperor
>cabinet that was in a US arcade for 6 months:
in graffiti, decals ripped, cracks in the acrylic, holes in the mdf, broken buttons, smells like sewage
>cabinet that was in a japanese arcade for 20 years:
, identical to the day it was manufactured
Are you suggesting that Americans are feces tossing chimpanzees?
a subset, yes
An experience emulation can not replicate. You have to sit on your mechanical horse and gallop with your whole body to move the horse in-game.
This was really fun. I played it with a group of friends.
>gallop with your whole body
I can do that with my bf too.
kinda gae.
Riding a horse is awesome.
Enduro Racer has a similar mechanic.
I don't think I've ever seen such a clean looking Enduro racer ever. They are always dirty and beat up when I see them. That picture looks absolutely clean. Factory fresh.
The last arcade with anything good near NYC closed a few years ago
Sorry about the photo quality. My camera sucked back then.
Still remember the hum of the monitors
Where was this? Chinatown fair?
No, it was a lesser-known arcade up north called FunFuzion. It was a massive arcade trapped in 2003. To give you an idea of how big it was, it had EIGHT dance machines (five DDR, an ITG, and two PIU).
>stuck in 2003
Different anon here. But man that looks amazing. A fun Time capsule. What a shame it closed.
I've heard in the Arcade community that NYC is just too insane with their taxes and prices. Unless you are some big company like Dave & Busters, then most indie arcades can'r afford to operate in NYC. At least thats what I've been told by arcade owners.
>too insane with their taxes and prices. Unless you are some big company like Dave & Busters,
according to youtubez comments and LouisRossmansextips, it's all money laundering and landlords hoping to flip to other landlords for profit. but that's
, if you pretend Ganker shills own anything.
they removed the last 2 pinball machines in my local arcade. big sad. they were ghostbusters and starwars machines.
>they removed the last 2 pinball machines in my local arcade
Bet there's plenty of those wretched ticket machines to hook children on gambling though.
The only way to keep traditional arcades and old machines alive is through the Freeplay model. Galloping Ghost Arcade is the best example. A huge ass building with hundreds of old arcade machines. All on freeplay for a flat fee.
It's not the only way by any stretch. A lot of rhythm and fighting game oriented arcades still work on a per-play model.
True but that's for newer Rhythm games and fighting games. The older arcade machines (made before 2005 ish) need a freeplay model. At least outside of Asia where everything is more spread out and public transportation kinda sucks.
I own that game. Its a lot of fun.
Ridge Racer Full Scale footage:
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You're a real hero. You have my gratitude.
Having to race on the machine when a camera crew stands in front of you with a bright spotlight on your face must really suck.
I'm so mad these games came out during a time when cameras and video were rare. So any footage and pictures is really rare. People have no idea how lucky they were back then. No arcade company today would ever make something like Ridge Racer Full Scale. It's too risky and creative for modern game companies. We just get the same games over and over at arcades. VR games suck.
>too risky and creative
More like it would never make any money. The market moved on, enjoy the fact that today your home racing rig can be way more advanced than most arcades ever were
Very, very, very, few people have a home racing rig. People who live in smaller homes or apartments use arcades too.
Game Catalog 2 visits Neo Geo Land and makes an entire episode of it:
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Attack of the Zolgear gameplay footage:
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Is there anywhere in the USA where I can still play this? I missed this as a kid.
I believe there's one surviving machine, period. I know the guy who owned it sold it recently, but I'm not sure where it ended up.
>I believe there's one surviving machine, period
Wait...just one? How is that even possible? Aren't hundreds or even thousands of these arcade machines made? That's like saying there's only one Pac Man machine left.
>Aren't hundreds or even thousands of these arcade machines made?
Yes but there's not really any way to keep track of each individual machine
>Aren't hundreds or even thousands of these arcade machines made?
Not with a room-sized set-up like this. Maybe 20 in the whole world.
These used to exist at almost every single Dave & Busters in the 1990s. So that's at least 100 to 150 machines in the USA. But I have no idea what happened to them all.
We're still talking about the room sized Attack of the Zolgear, right?
Yes. Dave and Busters had them in the 90s. I have no idea what happened to them. But since there are around 150 Dave and Buster locations, that means at least 100 Galaxian3 machines existed in America at one point. Much more if we count machines outside of America like Europe and Asia.
If they were all owned by Dave and Busters, then yeah, it's likely they were disposed of. It's the same reason there are so few surviving Derby Owners Club machines, despite EVERY Dave and Busters having one. Dave and Busters just parted the things on a corporate level.
I guess it depends if the D&B was franchise owned or corporate owned. I've heard stories of D&B selling old machines. Franchise owners have the power to do that.
>so few surviving Derby Owners Club machines, despite EVERY Dave and Busters having one.
The horse racing simulator? Why is that machine so popular? No offense, but I'm genuinely struggling to understand its appeal. Does it give actual money if you win.
I mean I appreciate the fact it's a huge machine with the ability to have lots of people participate. A technical achievement no doubt. But why do other people love it?
its cause you can keep a card with the horse you raised. its like a pet simulator
a giant tamagotchi
>a giant tamagotchi
Dang it anon. Why did you describe it that way? Now I want one. I need a giant horse betting tamagotchi simulator by Sega.
I've looked for any arcade that still has it and I'm pretty sure there are none. There are the last three locations that still had one, as far as I can tell:
>an arcade in Ohio that had a full deluxe 8 person setup that they were extremely proud of. The arcade shut down with no notice a few years back
>an arcade in Idaho where the owner got sick of cleaning up the cards that kids were leaving laying around all over the place. Had quite a few machines no other arcade had, but has since rotated all of them for more common machines
>a Dave and Busters in California that I'm 90% sure got rid of it, but whoever updates the listing on Zenius hasn't removed it. Could just be because they don't pay attention to it, though
I'm pretty sure public ones are just completely gone in the US at this point.
I saw one at an arcade in Texas. But it was around 6 years ago.
>I've looked for any arcade that still has it and I'm pretty sure there are none. There are the last three locations that still had one, as far as I can tell:
I guarantee you they still exist for sure. But almost all of them are in storage now. Big chain arcades don't want to do maintenance on them anymore so they sent their surviving machines to their storage warehouses. Rear projection TVs and CRT monitors are just too old for them. They also don't want to pay to convert them to LCD screens. Here's a picture of one Derby owners Club machine sitting in storage from last month (Nov 2023). The screens need maintenance, and it has some cosmetic wear and tear all over it, but it still works. Still functional.
Yeah, there are still quite a few privately owned machines, but there are zero public ones left. Supposed, there is one that came out to an Arizona gaming convention this year, so that's your only real option for playing it (short of tracking down someone who owns it, which isn't difficult since they have a whole facebook group).
Have you considered buying one?
A full size one is out of the question, since they're SUPER sought-after these days, but a home setup probably isn't out of the question (especially since I have the card printer...). What's the minimum number of Sega Naomis it requires to run? Does it need a full setup of six or will it run with only three?
There was a huge problem with those gigantic machines: They were a b***h to store and transport. So once an arcade shut down or decided they no longer wanted to dedicate the space to it, they had to find someone who did. If they couldn't, they were often forced to choose between keeping it on the floor or just throwing it out.
Add that on top of the machines being so expensive that not many were made and it's not that hard to see why there are so few surviving ones. Hell, the one known surviving machine was only salvaged because a random arcade happened to have kept it until the 2010s and the guy who bought it REALLY wanted that specific machine and kept bugging them about it. They'd have probably thrown it out otherwise. (which is also exactly what happened with the last known full scale Ridge Racer)
That said, it's not impossible there's another one somewhere. Nobody knows where it is if there is.
I know of at least two in private collection/storage in North America. Even saw pictures of them. One unit is sitting disassembled in some warehouse with a few other cabinets. Owner says it works but hasn't tested it since it went into storage years ago. He has no intention to sell it and bought it from an old arcade that closed in the 2000s and was selling everything.
You do know that most of the items simply go under the press once they become outdated? Few people actually care about preserving things.
Sega should have arcade games based World of Warcraft and Magic The Gathering using the internet, TCG and save card set-up they cultivated in Japan.
Imagine installing them on card shops across America.
These guys just found a complete working galaxy force 2 with the full moving rig in niagara falls
galaxy force 2 at around the 1 hour in:
That's in the basement level right? I heard that the owners found out it costs more money to move those giant machines out of the building...than it does to just leave them there in the basement level. So the arcade remains there as a sort 1980s/1990s time capsule through sheer luck of the owners being so cheap.
if that video is accurate yeah that probably makes the most sense since they have a bunch of old games in there
I used to live nearby as a kid with my family. This used to be a busy arcade with a food court inside it. Lots of kids running around and screaming and having fun. Wow I can't believe it's still there. It looks almost the same as when I was a kid in the 90s. I need to visit again.
...Anon, that's fricking Skylon Tower. It's pretty well known in the arcade community.
NTA but I didn't know about it. Chill anon.
Anyone else remember the old Battletech Battlepods?
Yeah. There's still a place in Minenapolis that has them, but they've been in the process of moving for over a year. They still pop up all the time at local conventions, though.
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Sega's Star Wars Trilogy arcade. The full sitdown cab with surround sound not that gay standing arcade 1-up one. Back when the prequels were coming out they added this game to my local movie theatre arcade, this thing was a damn treat and really made you feel like you were in the movie.
>the full sitdown cab with surround sound not that gay standing arcade 1-up one.
Heh. The upright has a kit to make it a sit-down.
>Back when the prequels were coming out they added this game to my local movie theatre arcade, this thing was a damn treat and really made you feel like you were in the movie.
Oh yeah. It felt like the pinnacle of arcade gaming. I first played it at Disney World and was utterly blown away by it. Then when it came to one of my local theaters (that is now gone) I made every excuse to see a movie to play it and then when there were no good movies, I asked the theater people if I could just get in to play the game and they agreed!
I was very sad when the game eventually disappeared a few years before the theater closed, so when I finally bought one several years back, better than sex.
Pic related isn't mine, but close.
Those arcade models had much more powerful backlighting than the big-screens you would get in your house. They also lasted longer.
Not that anon but I heard rear projection cabs in arcades would eat through bulbs and operators hated maintenance on them. Is that true?