ITT games that fell from grace. ill start with pic related.
>game does really well on release
>chaotic fighting, big battles, no one knows how the game works. people are having fun and the game is getting very popular. great!
>then the sweats realize, hey, you can exploit dragging and other bullshit techniques carried over from an earlier melee combat game that inspired this one, chivalry 1
>game dies. one of many reasons? a frustrating melee system. casuals dont want to compete against the melee gods arthurian magic and leaves en mass.
>"why did the game fail???" the skeleton community are left saying, clueless to the obvious facts
>game fails to rise from its niche bubble to cater to both casuals AND pros, not just one.
>other factors include the worst sins of gaming: toxic community, barebones content, bad map design, bad servers, moronic developer decisions, exploits
classic case of parents hating their child. i have never seen such a fricking bland disregard for a game that has a crazy dedicated community, but completely moronic devs. i really recommend people try Mord out (especially now, since it's on it's last legs). the pure chaos and kekworthyness is really something that i've not seen in any other multiplayer game.
>Mord out
A mod that makes it actually good or what?
man I miss mordhau. it was fun just throwing axes, poking people with the wooden pole, using the catapult to send people flying and beating the shit out of people until sweats started only used the executioners sword and maul, boring homosexuals
did like just standing back and watching the fights unfold, reminded me of TF2 with how goofy the fights were
Does the druggie homosexual still go around shooting everyone or has he finally overdosed?
they reworked castello like 3 times and basically didnt give a shit about any other maps and they havent made any more especially for their fifth anniversary so... frick triternion or whatever
Chivlary 2 won chud
I was really doubtful that it would but it absolutely did. Maps and gamemodes are way better too. It's just so much more fun.
>Absolutely refuse to support the game
>Release a battle pass that is recoloured free skins and the fricking map from the tutorial
>Ban your most dedicated new player helping youtuber from the game
>He literally kills himself in real life
>Now everyone hates you even more
How did they win?
Sounds like winning to me.
Kek who was the gay that offer himself?
Also they just needed to outrun Mordhau, which they did.
Soter Dave
>this happened just in the last couple weeks
Holy kek. Torn Banner is so fricking stupid.
>Also they just needed to outrun Mordhau
they have less players on Steam, how is that outrunning?
Top 5 mp games ever, 2k hours well spent. I stopped because not enough new content. Devs lost too much time trying to pander to compgays at some point.
Erm, mordhau was way more balanced and fair than chivalry 1 ever was. Chivalry 1 was literally broken tier. Anyone who cries about balance on mordhau is just bad, and I don't even have 100+hrs on mordhau like I do in chivalry1. Also torn banner is total shit and never fixed chivalry 1 despite all the complaints, and then released TWO slide games that failed within less a month of launch, one of which had systems that rectified dragging to a large degree through pitiful damage through epic drags, and they literally NEVER brought it over to chivalry 1 all while releasing skins.
its 5am and I'm not proofreading this shit, frick you and your shit thread, not buying chivalry 2.
yea frick off c**t
Chivalry fricking sucked total donkey aids and I have literally 2k hours in it. Mordhau was everything chivalry 1 needed to be and you'll seethe eternally over it. I'm not buying chivalry 2, I already tried it once and it had the same fundamental jank that allowed me to break the game and become an untouchable god ala chivalry 1. It's a shame game for morons who don't understand the elegance of a good fight. Like holy frick, I am so over my stoner days of entering duel lobbies and making people cry from insecurity on that shit ass game, holy frick. Dude, I generated so much SALT in chivalry 1, that I was made into an easteregg in a common community map? What the FRICK are you doing with YOUR life?
>I'm liek super famous
Pathetic.
No one's ever heard of you.
I've heard of him, he's just a stoner who bullies people who complain in every duel server, the joke on the tombstone was supposedly over some drama over a claim that he was using a lag switch to make his mace thrust unblockable. My personal chivalry 1 hero was mud though, that guy was literally the god of fisticuffs.
>self-fellates this blatantly
Oh this is just pathetic.
>he hasn't heard of mud
I'm not mud, but I did add him to my friends after witnessing his godliness and he trained me some in the fisticuffs, I was never as good tho.
>who are all these people
Chivalry wasn't that big in the duel sector near the end, I can probably name every fricking dedicated autist in that game.
>continues self-fellating
Have some fricking shame dude, holy frick.
AGAIN DUDE, MY NAME IS NOT MUD, JUST BECAUSE HES THE GOD OF CHIVALRY FISTS DOES NOT MEAN HES ME, OKAY? JUST FRICKING LOOK HIM UP ON GOOGLE HES AN ACTUAL GOD OF FISTICUFFS. HE LITERALLY WINS AGAINST ARMED PLAYERS WITH HIS FRICKING FISTS, HOW CAN YOU NOT FIND THIS IMPRESSIVE?
>I'm totally famous duuuuuuude
You're a nobody.
Outside your little autistic gaggle of "friends" no one knows you.
Have some fricking shame you pathetic cretin.
Buddy, you're delusional. Mud is my favorite chivalry player, that doesn't make me mud. You can't sit there and watch that video and think that's not impressive. Notice how its not his own channel either, its someone else randomly recording him during play.
>he doesn't know
Mordhau ended up making the exact same mistakes as chivalry 1. Just like torn banner trition, or whatever they're called, can't fix it because it's a fundamental issue.
Same with chivalry 1.
Now Torn Banner has made Chivalry 2, and it's actually fun.
Suck it mordhaugays, your sweat-simulator will never amount to anything.
For me it's was over when they fricked over gallant cavalry knights, and nerfed them into oblivion.
one of the most fun games i've ever played
sweats may have made it worse, but it was dev lazyness that ruined it for me, because even if you found sweats in games most of the players were fairly normal people
>one of the most robust customization systems on the planet
>literally hema sword fighting
you needed more?
Did quake players ever need more either? lmao, you're so sad.
fixes, patches, new maps, new game modes, new items
objectives, daily missions, weekly missions, community content, that would have been great
i'm not so autistic that the same gameplay loop can satisfy me for 1000 hours
and besides, it's not like quake players had much to compare it with, today we have many well managed online games
so mordau is not excused
The game was balanced just fine when I last played it, there's absolutely nothing in the game that's broken which needs fixes or patches. Don't need new items, don't need new gamemodes, don't need any of that shit except new maps, which the community handles just fine clearly.
>I'm not so autistic that the same gameplay loop etc
Then why are you playing a sword fighting game, a genre that's so niche that it only has a few games max?
Bushido blade series, chivalry 1, mordhau, chivalry 2.
brain damaged mention if you're literally a subhuman Black person, don't even respond to me if you consider this game in the same league tier: for honor.
Mordhau was made for the the autists of chivalry 1 who wanted a perfectly balanced game for dueling and they got just that. It is literally the perfect game for hema combat and until we can solve the latency issues of IK calculation over the network with virtual reality games, I doubt it will surpassed in my lifetime.
relax stouty, it's not that serious
There is nothing more serious than sword fighting. I will kill you where you stand unless you own a gun.
a gun?
you dare
i've practiced HEMA for 4 years, i know Fiore dei Liberi personally
try me Black person
Grand mace in your face, esoterics erased, your butthole disgraced.
>sidesteps
non è personale, ragazzo
suffers from the same issues as Mordhau - developers who don't listen to player feedback and a lack of (good) content in recent years. It's been nearly a decade and still no new ships/ship interiors.
Although the good news is they're releasing new DLC/updates soon which may finally rectify this and put Elite back on the map.
spacelegs was supposed to include ship interiors god damnit
You know what game didn't have this problem? Mount and Blade. It's weird, because the sweats were absolutely there, but no one really seemed to mind. Usually they'd be cool, too - the most skilled dude on the server was usually the naked guy with a cannon lighter.
I think the main thing was that the guys who were good mainly wanted to fight the other guys who were good. They'd run past noobs if the noob didn't swing on them a lot of the time. There were pubstompers, but if the pubstomper was actually good they'd get grudged by someone else who was good. If two homosexuals got super pissed they'd take it to a duel server to prove who had the bigger e-dick. People who were actually shit had their own servers to be shit in. It was cool, the community mostly policed itself. I miss that game.
Mount and blade was OK, but it definitely lacked the depth that any of the other games in this thread had, which is probably why sweats weren't really minded that much. the simplification however is what made those awesome as frick 200 player siege experiences possible though I'd say.
>it definitely lacked the depth that any of the other games in this thread had
Bull fricking shit. The skill ceiling for M&B was infinite, people were figuring out new techniques a year before Bonerlord released. I bet you can't even do a frame-perfect right into left swing feint you queer.
>siege servers
Way to out yourself as a fricking CASUAL.
>muh drag, so complex
Frick outta here. Don't you ever talk about my gamefu like that again.
mordhau could have been great had it just removed dragging and other bullshit hold-over techniques. does this make the game more casual and lower the skill ceiling? absolutely. but there's nothing wrong with having a moderate skill ceiling that most players can reach to achieve competitiveness. and the argument of 'well then fights will just last forever' doesnt hold water because you just have to use different tactics when you come up against someone that you stalemate against 1v1, like shoot that b***h with an arrow or have a teammate cave in his skull from behind, or get on a horse
I'll take developer greed instead of compgay autism in my games thanks
>Bad Thing is less bad than Really Bad Thing so Bad Thing is good.
Frick off
>bad thing is better than very bad thing
Yes?
>Mordhau started from ex-Chivalry players that wanted to make a similar game without all the spinning dragging upside down ballerina jank that plagues the game at high level
>release the game
>high level players discover a bunch of spinning dragging upside down ballerina jank
>leave it in
It's hilarious.
They sat out to avoid one thing. Literally one job.
And they fricked it up.
>didn't play the game
lol, many such cases.
There is not a single instance of being able to hit someone literally facing more than 90 degrees left or right of someone since day 1. Even with drags, you absolutely cannot hit people the moment your swing begins behind your head like in chivalry.
>180 overheads being the only issue
lol
lmao
>didn't play the game
LMAO, ROFL EVEN
overheads were never an issue and you definitely cannot reverse overhead people, I've extensively tested this myself as someone with 2k hours in chivalry. Why would I even MOVE to a new game if it was just more of the same shit? I could have just stayed on chivalry 1. You absolute fricking mong.
Why are you making up lies now?
Are you going full schizo?
You're the one who's lying anon, I actually played mordhau for a decent time and moved to mordhau from chivalry 1 precisely because it overcame chivalry 1's flaws. You're sitting here casually telling me my memories and experiences don't fricking matter and I'm only going to laugh my fricking ass off at you. You didn't play the game. Whatever dragging you can do in mordhau is baby mode small time compared to the broken drags you could do in chivalry 1. It is and will remain to be the fricking simple.
Didn't read your mald.
You're trying to tell me that 180 overheads isn't a thing in chivalry 1, fricking have a nice day.
NO YOU moron, IM TALKING ABOUT MORDHAU. LEARN TO READING COMPREHENSION.
this.
Mald some more ESL. You can't even keep up with a simple conversation.
>uuuuuuurh 180 overheads wasn't a thing in chivalry 1
>t. (you)
fricking lmao
yeah no, you're only interested in detractions, you literally can't read. nowhere did I claim in chivalry 1 that you couldn't do that. I specifically was talking about mordhau and you're a fricking moron. End of story. You failed to comprehend the basic point of explaining why I tested to see if you could and couldn't do before moving onto the newer game in said newer game.
have a nice day btw.
>There is not a single instance of being able to hit someone literally facing more than 90 degrees left or right
not that anon, and i never played chivalry but
>join dm server
>one guy just stomping, can't be hit
>playercam him for like 20 seconds between respawns
>he's literally just swinging from diagonally from bottom left to top right barely looking at the enemy
>copy
>now i'm just as good
it's silly. i don't care if it chivalry was worse, playing mordhau the dev intended (and subsequently intuitive) way will get you zero kills, complete frustration and prompt a 2-hour refund.
it was much more fun on release when few people knew what they were doing and only bloodlust or whatever the perk was felt broken
the dev intended for you to drag which is an aspect of the game's balance, it's completely fair. You're basically just confirming to me that you're a little b***h who couldn't get gud. You're not even crying about how the skill ceiling for chambering is insanely high to do consistently, yet you're crying about dragging, something a chivalry 1 player literally learn to master and abuse without crying over it. I bet you just suck at sword fighting, that's all this is.
>you're a little b***h who couldn't get gud
>not even crying
>you're crying about dragging
>crying
>I bet you just suck
get some new material champ. better yet, learn to read the context of the written word
I have an IQ of 147, and its been psychiatrically proven and tested. I'm not here to given more than 5% effort, to your shit thread. I'm not even fully paying attention and I'm not going to start now. You literally suck at this game I liked and I didn't have any problems with it, it was entirely a YOU issue and my time with it as a product was thoroughly enjoyed without any negative emotion, imagine that! now kys.
Nah you dumb if you don't see problem of disconnect of animation and effects.
There's zero disconnect as otherwise I wouldn't be able to successfully chamber 9.8/10 of your attacks.
>he can't chamber
Object manipulation skills is an aspect of intelligence. If you can't perfectly chamber in mordhau, you're likely not that clever outside of the game.
>9.8
You either chamber or you don't dumbass.
>brooo I have 127 IQ I'm so smart
>writes stupid shit like this
Fricking lol at you pseuds.
This is really weird self redundant semantics game you're trying to play here, and its not much of a detraction either. The game is balanced and good, sneed.
I love being enjoyer pilled swordcel
Holy shit you're a such an egotistical homosexual.
Mad cuz bad while I remain rad.
Rank 1 player Stouty here; dragging is an exploit (and you'd get 10-0'd by me). Now what?
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Proof that you're stouty? I just don't habeeb such a big name shitposting that casually. Also I've killed you before if actually stouty though will admit you're pretty fricking good and I've died to you probably hundreds of times over the years.
I'll post "-" in my discord
I don't use trooncord but I'll believe you. Unfortunately even if true I'm still confident I could secure a kill or two on you. You're definitely one of the better players in the game for sure.
I can't imagine having a Ganker bot just to scan for posts about me, that'd be so heckin autistic.
Thank you sir
If anything they're worse in Mordhau because Crush made the parry window tiny and the release phase of swings are longer than Chiv 1's, so it's literally just ripostehau at high level. At least in Chiv 1, feinting was the primary threat. Not sure how Chiv 2 ties into this but drags are meta there as well.
On Ganker you'll find the true opinion on dragging; it's jank af and nobody can stomach it. On reddit they all pretend to be le comp player that thinks dragging adds to the skill ceiling (it doesn't really) and that the devs intended it to be this way (they don't know how to fix them)
I'm doing the combat on Contingent; it was delayed a lot from my initial video's timeline but it's still in development and recently received funding from the UK gubberment. I'm not technically a dev currently, just doing contracted design work
where's your game stouty, weren't you supposed to be go and make definitive melee game to put Mordhau and Chivalry out of field?
>SHITouty
AHAHHAHAHAHA
>Proof that you're stouty?
considering that this homosexual answers on every fricking reddit post about him and every youtube comment I wouldn't put it past him to go fricking whine on Ganker too
>t. Crushed
>answers on every fricking reddit post about him and every youtube comment
Holy Gigachad
>timed blocks
>noooooo you can't just hold up a shield you have to REEEEEEad my feint!!!
Crushed being unable to play his own game is another hilarious part of it all.
>being this mad
I'm glad it's dead.
I don't even play this game anymore, but the criticisms people are giving it like balance are really laughable. If anything I didn't play mordhau nearly as much as chivalry precisely because chivalry was insanely broken to the point where you could have some pretty unique techniques that could earn you a spot in the upper bracket of the dueling community if you honed it. Mordhau was far more balanced and in sense sterilized because of it. Sure it was still fun, but it was too fair which a much lower skill ceiling outside of chambering, which could be learned in the same veins as feints.
I imagine people half the people in this thread probably rage when someone feints too.
>I don't even play this game anymore
Of course you don't.
You got filtered.
You're just coping that it totally wasn't because you couldn't keep up with the moronic meta of feint-spamming while looking up and down at a high pace while spinning around like a moron.
But you'll keep defending it, because otherwise you'd have to admit you wasted your time on a shitty broken game that couldn't even get the one thing it set out to fix right.
lmaoooooo
I didn't get filtered, I got old. I don't play ANY pvp games anymore. I don't even play my own wife in smash brothers anymore my dude. I'm literally in my 30's I can't neurologically keep up with any kind of game anymore like that. The game was perfectly balanced.
>crying about feints
what a fricking baby, actually filtered.
>I-i-i-i didn't get filtered
loooooooooooool
But I didn't, you fricking moron. I literally don't play ANY pvp game. Do you think mordhau is somehow special? Am I supposed to stand here and act like my life ends and begins on some fricking product? Get real, you stupid homosexual. I'm glad the game is dead just so I don't have to hear your stupid ass cry about how much you sucked ass in every single sword fighting game in the planet while us gigachads got 2k+ hours in chivalry despite its flaws and didn't cry over it like fricking children. Godanm you're pathetic.
>more cope
Yeah bro it was just the age. Cope some more.
LOOOOOOOOOOOL
Yes, I got old and cannot play ANY pvp game anymore. I don't play a single genre of multiplayer other than coop now and went from playing every singleplayer game on the hardest difficulty to the easiest difficultly, and I don't regret a thing. I don't give a frick what your opinion is, because I'm literally this poster here
and would have owned your butthole open in either game just fine while you cried about how much it sucked and you couldn't adapt. Now for the final fricking time, kys. I'm walking away from your shit thread cuz its nearly 7am and my wife is gonna kill me if I sleep all day again.
Say hi to your wife for me anon.
>I'm so successfull bro
>I'm just up till 7am malding at people on the internet while my wife and her son sleeps in the next room
>also I'm too old for videogames now woe is me
Hilariously pathetic.
It got an update just last month, what are you on about?
Those update are very moronic, no one wants new map
Bring proper mod support and custom server
They didn't bring what you wanted, but it's not abandoned.
It was better than chivalry 1, and is still better than chivalry 2. keep malding.
Buddy, you could do literally all of that in chivalry 1 and in chivalry 1 it was literally broken tier. Whatever you could do in mordhau was a pale sterilized immitation of broken. If you struggled to keep up with mordhau then you're just bad. Simple as.
Never was a fundamental issue with Mordhau. I really think that's just an excuse people say because they tried to 1v1 someone too many times and got so mad they quit and posted a bad review.
The thing is that no matter how good a player is, due to the nature of there being a stamina system you can overwhelm any single player with like 3 guys who have at least a few hours played as long as you're not all taking turns attacking like it's a shitty movie / show. In fact intimidating new people who dont know better so they are scared to all attack at the same time was part of surviving getting jumped like that. I have almost 2k hours in the game and the last bit of fun I had was last year when there was a bunch of new players because the game was free on EPIC. It was like playing horde mode, I'd be like 140 kills to 3 deaths because I could still lose if a bunch of new players all surrounded me. But if I did fend off a 3,4,5 v 1 successfully it felt so fricking cool.
I don't even know how to drag / accel btw. My skill was pure autism. 2k hours and I never bothered to learn because duel servers are filled with genuinely annoying weird people, at least in my region. They were actually gatekeeping bullies it was insane
>buy game
>get into a match
>just people gathered around chatting, memeing
>try to pick a fight
>get ganged up by a group of triple digit level players
>try again
>same thing
i regret not refunding this shit and forgetting i owned it
For me it was Fire Bombs and pretending to be a Wizard.
This genre is cursed
Chiv 2 is fun yet also abandaned by devs
This is why War of The Roses was the GOAT for this genre. Shame its dead. It was dumb and fun as frick and it even had a Brian Blessed voice pack.
Mordhau was great for a while but it was indeed ruined by sweaters. It just isn't fun to play against people that much better than you, mostly because how to deal with the high level techniques is completely unintuitive.
I remember when this game was one of the best mobile games there was
I'd play it when I was younger non stop
Haven't played it in years and tried to give it a go again for nostalgia
It is pay to win kicked into 7th gear
These games are always going to be ruined by their community no matter who makes it
Can you play custom music on lute in chivalry ? That's actually the only thing that's stopping me from buying chivalry
u can do that in mord
>giru fricking up all their EU twitch tourneys
good times
Yeah the tryhards killed it with their autist
>game disappears like tears in rain
Full plate OP
slotting people in the visor was always the funniest shit
game was half-baked as shit though
It was always "Mount and Blade at home."
>fatshark
what did you expect
Did they have a reputation at the time? I just remember being a Vermintide player, looking at their past projects and being like "wait what" when seeing they made WotR and killed all their servers
do arrows really move so slowly? hitting people with bows in these games is really hard because strafing is faster than an arrow
I like Chivalry 2, it's the most TF2-like modern game out there. I didn't play Chiv 1 or Mordhau, but would likely buy a sequel to either series.
the true greats die young
Stouty, I refuse to believe you're being genuine that drags in mordhau are exploit tier like they are in chivalry. I'm sorry, but I just don't think you really believe that because I know you've played chivalry 2 as well.
>defending balloon animals
Someone's aching for a 10-0.
I liked the broken game more than the balanced game, but people saying the balanced game wasn't that is maddening to me. Also there's zero chance of 10-0, I've told you before that we've played together countless times if you're actually stouty. In mordhau I didn't see you nearly as often, but I've destroyed your butthole many times in chivalry.
Holy frick do I miss playing this game on release with /vg/.
The rainbow series. I liked the tactical co op of 3, Vegas games. Now they found their profit pig of siege so nothing interesting will happen with that franchise. It’s similar to gta v. I wish rockstar created a small dev team to make games like bully, manhunt and the warriors with PS2 graphics and everything.
its a very niche genre and it was a massive success for that, yes the updates were slow and the map design ranged from dogshit to ok but the morons who seethe about getting shat on by players with 10x of their playtime are just mad that the devs didnt pander to them to turn it into a generic normalgay slop