The saddest thing ever was that XY made putting together an amazing super powerful team easier than ever, yet completely skimped out on having in-game battles hard enough to warrant doing any of it.
>best online system
Agree completely, but I hate how GF has always been so oddly restrictive about online features. Like, why the frick can I only battle 6v6 against people with friend codes? And why can't there be basic communication when trading pokemon? There was nothing worse than all the "I'll trade you a starter, for a Mew."
>yet completely skimped out on having in-game battles hard enough to warrant doing any of it
Your 50 streak Battle Maison run, anon? You do have the ribbon...?
You mean the most braindead version of the Battle Tower until SS completely gutted it? Seriously, between the un-touched singles AI that still falls for the True Ant strat from Gen 5 to the whole new non-scaling making FEAR Aron an even more braindead solution to Doubles/Triples, the only remotely difficult ones are Rotations (which True Ant still makes easier) and Multis (which FEAR Aron Still makes easier) because they're less reliably cheesed. Getting the ribbon and getting every berry are equally trivial with FEAR Aron triples. Simply put, there's nothing worth using it on unless you really want all 5 statues in the lobby and that's hardly a reward given the performance issues battles have in that game (still less dreadful than Gen 4, especially Multis with another player holy shit that's miserable).
How is it in modern Pokémon? I stopped playing shortly after beating Sun in 2016 but I remember thinking the island where your Pokémon passively gained evs and the removal of PSS were all strict downgrades from Gen 6.
>these features are bad because of a completely unrelated feature that aren't even remotely similar to each other
moronic logic. Also, contests are overrated as frick. I never got the buzz for it other than it being "baby's first sidegame."
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I'm just asking what was good about them, I didn't like pokestar or join avenue, but I was a little late for the latter. Why are you being a b***h about it?
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Anonymous
If you were just asking, then the second comment was unnecessary and made the first comment out to be a rhetorical question, instead.
So, here's my opinion:
For pokestudios, it's fun exploring the weird scenarios for each movies and getting dialogue such as these. That and I like the custom monsters and character designs that comes with it.
For Join Avenue, it's has a variety of shops, which are a good source of getting good items you normally can't buy like Max Revives as well as prizes like the Masterball. That and it has a nice vibe.
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>then the second comment was unnecessary and made the first comment out to be a rhetorical question
Holy autism.
>Join Avenue's main perk is just worse O-Powers.
I FRICKING HATE POKEMON FANS
JOIN AVENUE IS JUST SPECIAL npcs (buy evo items, raise happiness, berries, etc) ALL IN ONE SPOT
PASS POWERS FROM THE ENTRALINK = O-POWERS AND YOU CAN ALSO GET BERRIES THIS WAY (le "how do I farm berries in Unova")
NONE OF YOU homosexualS PLAY THE GAMES
Poke Pelago was literally a stolen Digimon mechanic AND misrepresented in art and in game descriptions. It's literally a farm you put your Pokemon into where they sit there as sprites and do nothing, but gain EVs passively and occasionally do tasks where they might bring you items. It's somehow a worse version of the Poke Jobs system from Galar. Which was also shit.
The sprites in Poke Pelago give you beans and farm items, you can increase their happiness and EV, there are also visiting Pokemon you can catch. It's the best use of Pokemon in your box and it's the best way to get items regularly without trivializing it.
Pelago is practically fricking phone game. All it's missing is the pop-up asking you to use real money to lower the training time. Super Training's faux-shooter minigames are just cooler and gratifying.
I kind of hated super training because the first time I played XY it made me feel obligated to EV train everything I caught. This garbage is burned into my brain:
Also my contribution to overlooked and forgotten mechanics is that wireless plaza thing that was only in pokemon platinum. Literally no one cared about that shit. At least all the wireless adapter bullshit from FRLG and Emerald that no one did is notable for how obnoxious it was.
Yeah I was a bit moronic in that regard. Was no need to reset my team EVs and grind them out in the minigame. I did initially do it just so I could evolve Duoblade however.
in platinum I could battle people online (I did tons of times with anons on the pokemon general thread on Ganker before this board was created as containment board for pokemon) and we could talk on mic, record the fight to see later, and get a pin on the glove of the location of the person you battled with. I dont know how many of these things are still in the games because I completely stopped online battles after gen 4
Online battles are no longer legitimately possible in the DS games and soon for 3DS games. All Switch games require a subscription to NSO for online trades and battles.
I do not know when voice chatting in the games themselves was removed, but from what I've read, they're not in the Switch games.
Vs. Recorder is gone as of Gen 8.
Geonet was exclusive to Gens 4 - 5 and could have been possible in Gens 6 - 7 with the 3DS's region settings (see Vivillon) which can also be seen on the PSS.
>can't access the pc while you're in the plaza >can't evolve any of the shops: either you're lucky with the RNG or pay out of your nose for someone else's 5-star >instead of money, you have to pay for shit with points you can't easily collect, even in the endgame and beyond
What were they thinking?
>the only good facility are the ones that give you a master ball or a golden bottle cap which are easier to get in the lotto or pokepelago respectively
All that work for nothing. I'm thinking it might be easier to replay the game for masterballs. You are farming for fricking nothing.
Any online feature from XY
Any online feature from BW
parroting is an admission of defeat
Funny you say that now when the parroting actually applies for once, zoomie.
Reset bags were the greatest
The saddest thing ever was that XY made putting together an amazing super powerful team easier than ever, yet completely skimped out on having in-game battles hard enough to warrant doing any of it.
that's why it also came with the best online system, so you could battle real people.
>best online system
Agree completely, but I hate how GF has always been so oddly restrictive about online features. Like, why the frick can I only battle 6v6 against people with friend codes? And why can't there be basic communication when trading pokemon? There was nothing worse than all the "I'll trade you a starter, for a Mew."
>completely skimped out on having in-game battles hard enough to warrant doing any of it.
It's a turn based rpg. It will never be hard.
Play a real SMT game.
SMT is cringe and not fun. Or hard.
>yet completely skimped out on having in-game battles hard enough to warrant doing any of it
Your 50 streak Battle Maison run, anon? You do have the ribbon...?
You mean the most braindead version of the Battle Tower until SS completely gutted it? Seriously, between the un-touched singles AI that still falls for the True Ant strat from Gen 5 to the whole new non-scaling making FEAR Aron an even more braindead solution to Doubles/Triples, the only remotely difficult ones are Rotations (which True Ant still makes easier) and Multis (which FEAR Aron Still makes easier) because they're less reliably cheesed. Getting the ribbon and getting every berry are equally trivial with FEAR Aron triples. Simply put, there's nothing worth using it on unless you really want all 5 statues in the lobby and that's hardly a reward given the performance issues battles have in that game (still less dreadful than Gen 4, especially Multis with another player holy shit that's miserable).
How is it in modern Pokémon? I stopped playing shortly after beating Sun in 2016 but I remember thinking the island where your Pokémon passively gained evs and the removal of PSS were all strict downgrades from Gen 6.
don't need words!
Literal hours of content ignored because it's from gen 5
They're not talked about because they're shit. Get over your victim complex.
>They're not talked about because they're shit.
Cringe take, homosexual.
What was good about them? Contests were 100x better than pokestar.
>these features are bad because of a completely unrelated feature that aren't even remotely similar to each other
moronic logic. Also, contests are overrated as frick. I never got the buzz for it other than it being "baby's first sidegame."
I'm just asking what was good about them, I didn't like pokestar or join avenue, but I was a little late for the latter. Why are you being a b***h about it?
If you were just asking, then the second comment was unnecessary and made the first comment out to be a rhetorical question, instead.
So, here's my opinion:
For pokestudios, it's fun exploring the weird scenarios for each movies and getting dialogue such as these. That and I like the custom monsters and character designs that comes with it.
For Join Avenue, it's has a variety of shops, which are a good source of getting good items you normally can't buy like Max Revives as well as prizes like the Masterball. That and it has a nice vibe.
>then the second comment was unnecessary and made the first comment out to be a rhetorical question
Holy autism.
No, they're not talked about because they're cheeks.
Pokestar was just battling but stupid.
Join Avenue's main perk is just worse O-Powers.
Join Avenue is nothing like O-Powers. Wtf are you talking about? A better comparison is whatever that feature was in SM.
>Join Avenue's main perk is just worse O-Powers.
I FRICKING HATE POKEMON FANS
JOIN AVENUE IS JUST SPECIAL npcs (buy evo items, raise happiness, berries, etc) ALL IN ONE SPOT
PASS POWERS FROM THE ENTRALINK = O-POWERS AND YOU CAN ALSO GET BERRIES THIS WAY (le "how do I farm berries in Unova")
NONE OF YOU homosexualS PLAY THE GAMES
>Join Avenue's main perk is just worse O-Powers.
average iq of unova haters
Thanks for proving my point tastelet
Anyone have the post of the sideways vigoroth in this thing that some guy thought was a fish?
This was nice, having ev trained Pokemon before the first gym was cool
Poke Pelago did it better.
Poke Pelago was literally a stolen Digimon mechanic AND misrepresented in art and in game descriptions. It's literally a farm you put your Pokemon into where they sit there as sprites and do nothing, but gain EVs passively and occasionally do tasks where they might bring you items. It's somehow a worse version of the Poke Jobs system from Galar. Which was also shit.
The sprites in Poke Pelago give you beans and farm items, you can increase their happiness and EV, there are also visiting Pokemon you can catch. It's the best use of Pokemon in your box and it's the best way to get items regularly without trivializing it.
>Super Training
This is one of the most overhyped features, it is not fun in the slightest
Even worse, you don't even get EVs instantly (but the berry farming is the best one yet, they're moronic for not bringing it back)
Pelago is practically fricking phone game. All it's missing is the pop-up asking you to use real money to lower the training time. Super Training's faux-shooter minigames are just cooler and gratifying.
I kind of hated super training because the first time I played XY it made me feel obligated to EV train everything I caught. This garbage is burned into my brain:
Also my contribution to overlooked and forgotten mechanics is that wireless plaza thing that was only in pokemon platinum. Literally no one cared about that shit. At least all the wireless adapter bullshit from FRLG and Emerald that no one did is notable for how obnoxious it was.
Yeah I was a bit moronic in that regard. Was no need to reset my team EVs and grind them out in the minigame. I did initially do it just so I could evolve Duoblade however.
Pokestar Studios and Join Avenue are fantastic and nobody talks about them because they were turned off from the forced tutorials
in platinum I could battle people online (I did tons of times with anons on the pokemon general thread on Ganker before this board was created as containment board for pokemon) and we could talk on mic, record the fight to see later, and get a pin on the glove of the location of the person you battled with. I dont know how many of these things are still in the games because I completely stopped online battles after gen 4
Online battles are no longer legitimately possible in the DS games and soon for 3DS games. All Switch games require a subscription to NSO for online trades and battles.
I do not know when voice chatting in the games themselves was removed, but from what I've read, they're not in the Switch games.
Vs. Recorder is gone as of Gen 8.
Geonet was exclusive to Gens 4 - 5 and could have been possible in Gens 6 - 7 with the 3DS's region settings (see Vivillon) which can also be seen on the PSS.
2 days before the main features of it are gone forever when they shut down the online.
RIP
>can't access the pc while you're in the plaza
>can't evolve any of the shops: either you're lucky with the RNG or pay out of your nose for someone else's 5-star
>instead of money, you have to pay for shit with points you can't easily collect, even in the endgame and beyond
What were they thinking?
>the only good facility are the ones that give you a master ball or a golden bottle cap which are easier to get in the lotto or pokepelago respectively
All that work for nothing. I'm thinking it might be easier to replay the game for masterballs. You are farming for fricking nothing.
>join avenue except shit