I beat Pokemon Red at the age of 8 with a venusaur cassring me and the Elite 4 with just that and Articuno.
So if it gets easier than that, I'd be surprised
b8
Charmander's type matchups against the 8 gyms are horrendous, especially at the start. It's always been Squirtle > bulba > Charmander. Bulba has a great matchup against the first two gyms but Squirtle has a better run against the 8 gyms + league.
bulba is easiest. especially when you consider how many fricking water types there are and they fricking give you lapras and surf for free before blaine
Charmander puts you at a disadvantage for most of the gyms including the first two. The fact that Charmander is the most picked starter is because he's just that cool. Most kids pick the fire starters in general in all Pokemon games.
Since bulbasaur doesn't learn a good move for Brock until level 13 Squirtle was always the best for a straight playthrough early on. Gym 2 doesn't matter since you'll be overlevelled by then if you play correctly.
are you guys fricking moronic or just zoomers? charmander is the worst of the 3 starters. In gen 1 special is 1 stat, not 2 so charmander has weaker attacks than Bulbasaur, plus the way the games calculated crits razor leaf had near a 100% critical hit rate (plus access to body slam and toxic seed).
Plus bulba is good against the first 6 and 8th gym leaders and 2 of the elite 4.
super effective vs rock and water, half damage vs electric. erika and koga are morons and will use poison attacks because bulba is grass, but bulba is immune to poison.
also the one gym charazard is actually good for, erika, has the only firetypes outside of cinnabar right outside of town, has a eevee you can make into a flarion and has an ice beam or blizard or whatever in town.
7th is fire, moron. 8 is ground. 7th gym is also straight up the biggest joke because the game gives you unlimited uses of the best water move in the game, surf, and a lapras and fricking tons of wild watermons right before the fight
grass pokemon are canonically feminine
being a teenage boy, if you've chosen a feminine creature as your best friend, you were either sexually harassed or a transexual or had any other weird abnormality that will come out later in your life. this is simple psychology
You don't even need a single move on Venusaur other than Razor Leaf for it to completely decimate most of the game.
Charizard does technically get Slash which can also carry you pretty hard, but not only does Venusaur get STAB from Razor Leaf it's also one of the only two mons in the game that can use it and by far the better option of the two, meanwhile there's tons of Slash users that can take advantage of the move way better than Charizard.
You can beat both RBY and FRLG pretty easily if you go into the elite 4 right at level 50. Even if the champion is like 14 levels above you it doesn't matter.
i went for bulabasuar because havign watched the anime you already know the first three out of 4 gyms have a type advantage and the 4th is the same type
Charmander seemed moronic choice because brock is rock
he steamrolls everything once he becomes charizard
What is the Pokémon starter for the Pokémon trainer who hates Charizard, hates overrated Pokémon, hates Charmander, and wants a starter that no one uses in the adventure and no one uses in the competitive one?
Chikorita (or rather Bayleaf, the evolution) is confirmed to canonically want to frick human men (i.e. Ash).
Also she's a cute undervalued potato thing.
Chikorita is the hard-mode of Johto. Weak against the first two gyms as well as the seventh, and is resisted by the first two gems as well as two others.
Regardless of which starter has the optimal stats, Squirtle matches up so well against most of the gyms and Elite Four, that he's the undisputed easy mode of R&B.
You don't need to know about the technicalities of the battle system as a kid when you can solo the game with Squirtle, as I'm sure many did.
Feel like bulba has a better gym mu than squirtle due to surge coming earlier than blaine. Not even thinking about e4 since they are so easy. Def bulba>squirtle>char>pikachu in terms of difficulty
>Gyms are meant to get progressively harder as game goes on >Placing the Fire gym leader on an island you can only reach by passing through an area filled with counters to his gym (The ocean)
What did they mean by this
yeah ember is able to roast onyx pretty easily due to low special despite it not being effective. you just gotta catch some mons to take care of geodude and hope your ember burns then just potion abuse and ur golden
good job proving my point homosexual
with bulbasaur you can beat the first gym easily without doing shit
with charmander you have to grind on bugs and even being overleveled doesn't guarantee winning since lvl14 onyx can easily rock throw ur ass
Mankey is after the forest, you get him from the grass in the route just east of Pewter City, the way with the dead end that you can use to come back through later in the game iirc
brock was never the problem, misty's starmie was
you can catch a bellsprout/oddish from the grass north of cerulean, sure, but only pussies ditch their starter
>actual OG players realized charmander was easymode when playing normally
uuhhhh no? I hated picking Charmander because it literally sucked ass doing the first gyms with it. Squirtle and Bulbasaur were always the superior pick. Now REAL OGs played Yellow and HAD to pick Pikachu.
>it literally sucked ass doing the first gyms with it
This, especially in RB. In FRLG, you get Route 22 mankeys to help with Brock at least, but in RB you had shit. I would almost always play blue and train a Caterpie into a Butterfree for Confusion and abuse the shit out of that. There are a lot of mons you can catch before Cerulean, but they still have mostly shit moves or are weak shit. Literally nothing effective against water.
Oddish and bellsprout, and Jigglypuff with sing if you wanted to put starmie to sleep. Also bug was super effective so if you wanted, zubat/golbat or paras/parasect (neither excellent choices but at least it was super effective).
Of course not, grinding fricking sucks. Even in the later games when you have EXP share it gets dull because you can only have a 6 man team. Finding new stuff and fighting with it should be the fun part, not just added grind. Completed Let's Go Pikachu though
I never understood what's the point of grinding when you can just catch the same higher level pokemon later on in the game. The whole friendship building bullshit doesn't matter anyway as long as you have a strong team.
Higher level pokemon might not keep earlier moves you want, stat experience although wonky was a thing, and typically if you stop to grind it's because you got walled by somebody, so just catching a stronger version isn't really an option.
But generally yeah you're right, the games are easy enough that you can beat them without ever gaining experience, and wild pokemon are enough to beat gym leaders almost every time.
I do think a lot of Pokemon players have a problem where they're incapable of rotating out old mons for new ones though.
Pokemon like Dodrio or Dewgong get routinely ignored despite actually being pretty good options purely because they come relatively late in the game.
You probably already have a Pidgey you've been raising since Route 1 so why would you replace it with Doduo?
This way of playing is what leads to stuff like "The Sinnoh Team" that everyone uses because it's just made up of the most common Pokemon you find in the first half of the game.
I just played Platinum for the first time so I can comment on this.
Starter Turtwig, was going to switch it out but Curse carried me hard for a lot of fights I didn't prep for properly so he stays even though is IVs and EVs are all fricked up >machop
For rock smash, and then because I wanted to lean into fighting, but fell off >ponyta
Early fire type surprised me and I liked the physical fire moveset, so I stuck with it >Staraptor
Fell off around level 20 for me, boxed it to train other stuff >Kadabra
Had one for a while before decided to breed an actually good one
Then I made it past giratina by the skin of my teeth and decided it was time to stop getting fricked by gyarados and get a proper electric type >magnezone
I knew shinx was there but the one I caught was shit and didn't feel like getting a new one after looking at the movepool. Also didn't realize magnezone didn't have levitate too late but it wasn't a problem
I also considered nosepass/probopass but never went and did it >scyther
Originally just for false swipe catching pokemon, but technician-STAB-wing attack is really fricking strong >sneasel
me metagaming to deal with cynthia's garchomp. Didn't realize I could get a gible early or I would have done that.
Final team Rapidash/Torterra/Kadabra/Scyther/Magnezone/Weavile
Currently just finished breeding a paras for speed and I'm going to EV train it for catching wandering legendaries
I was really disappointed most of the pokemon in the early game weren't new. I wound up using mostly Kanto mons.
you have a boring ass team ngl but mine isn't far off so i won't judge. >empoleon >drifblim because I got Mismagius in HGSS and wanted something new >will replace luxio with magnezone because i like magnemite >toxicroak for something different and so i can stall toxic with drifblim >using staraptor right now but will swap out if i find something i haven't used yet >gible when I get one, I guess?
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also using drifblim stockpile right now and what the frick is this move, I've never used it in any game before this. it's insane. How does no one use this?
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NPC uses it wrong, therefor kids think it's shit, like Counter/Mirror Coat to a 5 year old that barely reads.
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Yeah no worries man, clearly back in 2009 I was starting to tryhard, then I was just playing with favorites, then I went back to full tryhard. Like I can see exactly where I was trying to have fun with curse and tanking hits with torterra, but then gave up and went back to fast sweepers.
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honestly, looking through the national dex, dppt has an awful selection unless you want to reuse stuff from previous gens (i'm trying to do this as little as possible). there's way too many water lines and while cross gen evolutions are pretty cool to me, there's more of those than are necessary which limits the number of usuable new mons
It's because a lot of those pokemon aren't worth the hassle to swap them in. They usually come in below the level of your current team so why would you use them?
This is the main reason I stopped playing pokemon (although obviously there's plenty of other reasons newer pokemon games are bad). There's no variety in playthroughs due to the set order of available pokemon. And even across generations they basically give you the exact same creature archetypes in the exact same order.
>Gen 1 has gust as a normal type move >wing attack has a BST of 35 and sucks ass against anything not weak to it >if you don't have drill peck, your best options are fly and sky attack >everyone still picks Pidgey despite it having some of the worst starting bird stats of the entire franchise because Ash picked had a Pidgeotto for most of Kanto (yes it evolved, who cares it disappears until the last episode of the ashnime or whatever)
Just check the usable moves and you see which is easy, normal and hard. >Bulbasaur
Leech seed at lv7
Vine whip at lv13
Poison powder at lv20
Razor leaf at lv 27
Growth at lv 34
Sleep powder at lv41
Solar Beam at lv48
Starts boring but has a great movepool, type is strong against the first and second, resists the third gym leader, easy mode.
>Squirtle
Bubble at lv8
Water gun at lv15
Bite at lv 22
Hydro pump at lv 42
Starts strong but learns little by itself, type rekts the first gym leader and neutral against the second, medium mode.
>Charmander
Ember at lv9
Slash at lv30
Flamethrower at lv38
The rest is all trash needs TMs even to get Fire Blast unlike the other 2 who naturally get their own 120 BP move, type is shit against the first and second gym leader, hard mode.
Didn't Beat The Game: >shift instead of set >you used any starter beyond your first pokeball catch, >lost to a gym leader and specifically over-leveled for the next fight >healing / revives in-battle
>always scared of overleveling pokemon because of the anime >turns out the game is bugged that only happens with traded pokemon
Whelp, that was a waste of anxiety as an 8 year old.
Bulbasaur is the easy mode, it demolishes the first two gyms which is what matters because it's when you are most limited in choice of pokemon. By the third and fourth things open up and you have more choices
Does anyone else just have that one pokemon they've used in every single game? I basically always get a Growlithe to evolve into Arcanine as fast as possible and that's my main.
I guess it's because they went from >Let's map all Japan little by little
to >Frick it just do whatever part of it they don't have to connect
to >Just do another country
I guess he would have the 3 starters and 3 other strong Johto only pokemon, no idea which ones, maybe to parallel Red he has a Eevee but evolved into one of the three Kanto originals.
God, I remember when Ruby Sapphire came out, I was really hoping for Gold to be the final hidden boss like how Gold/Silver did it with Red, and was extremely disappointed when he wasn't. I think it would have been a neat tradition for pokemon to do.
>Would have been cliche, but I agree it would have been a nice tradition >give Typhlosion, earth power and thunderbolt. Also a good ability, I stopped playing years ago so I'm not sure which
I know it was an unreasonable expectation now but as a kid I was fully expecting to go back to Johto just like I could go back to Kanto in gen 2
>it was an unreasonable expectation now but
Wrong. It was a perfectly valid expectation considering how much new stuff G/S/C introduced to the franchise. Gen 3 felt like 1 step forward and 2 steps back
>no day and night cycle >no real time and day of the week >no animated pokemon sprites that they introduced in Crystal >no hidden boss fight (Gold) >Only 202 pokemon in the pokedex whereas in G/S you could get all 251 at the time
>people trying to rewrite history
Squirtle was always the more normal popular choice than charmander at the time, with charmander being the hipster alternative (no one but homos cared about bulbasaur). Now after 25 years of "actually, charmander was the cool hardcore choice for original free thinkers like me" online posting you've gaslit yourself into believing charmander was more popular when the entire point is he wasn't.
It's going to depend on your school. At my school most people went charmander. I set up a series of trades with my friend so we'd both have all 3 starters.
Go suck Mike Mattei's wiener, I'll do whatever the frick I please with my software thanks.
>if you beat the game on hard mode then you didn't beat the game
We're playing Pokemon alright.
charmander = easy
squirtle = normal
bulbasaur = dante must die, inferno, hardcore, expert
The exact opposite
Bulbasaur is considered easy mode because he's advantaged against the first 2 gyms
This is bait
I beat Pokemon Red at the age of 8 with a venusaur cassring me and the Elite 4 with just that and Articuno.
So if it gets easier than that, I'd be surprised
b8
Charmander's type matchups against the 8 gyms are horrendous, especially at the start. It's always been Squirtle > bulba > Charmander. Bulba has a great matchup against the first two gyms but Squirtle has a better run against the 8 gyms + league.
bulba is easiest. especially when you consider how many fricking water types there are and they fricking give you lapras and surf for free before blaine
Charmander puts you at a disadvantage for most of the gyms including the first two. The fact that Charmander is the most picked starter is because he's just that cool. Most kids pick the fire starters in general in all Pokemon games.
never played the game
Since bulbasaur doesn't learn a good move for Brock until level 13 Squirtle was always the best for a straight playthrough early on. Gym 2 doesn't matter since you'll be overlevelled by then if you play correctly.
are you guys fricking moronic or just zoomers? charmander is the worst of the 3 starters. In gen 1 special is 1 stat, not 2 so charmander has weaker attacks than Bulbasaur, plus the way the games calculated crits razor leaf had near a 100% critical hit rate (plus access to body slam and toxic seed).
Plus bulba is good against the first 6 and 8th gym leaders and 2 of the elite 4.
super effective vs rock and water, half damage vs electric. erika and koga are morons and will use poison attacks because bulba is grass, but bulba is immune to poison.
also the one gym charazard is actually good for, erika, has the only firetypes outside of cinnabar right outside of town, has a eevee you can make into a flarion and has an ice beam or blizard or whatever in town.
it's a bait thread m8
the eighth gym is fire, anon.
nvm, I forgot.
No you're right, Blaine is 7th, Giovanni is 8th.
I replied to myself to correct it
also forgot to include asterisk *
7th is fire, moron. 8 is ground. 7th gym is also straight up the biggest joke because the game gives you unlimited uses of the best water move in the game, surf, and a lapras and fricking tons of wild watermons right before the fight
Technically that's the first gym anon, fricking moron.
you literally can't get into the gym unless you have 7 badges you fricking zoomer troony
Encountered in the first city, obsessed terminally online weeb.
decent bait, contributing my reply
grass pokemon are canonically feminine
being a teenage boy, if you've chosen a feminine creature as your best friend, you were either sexually harassed or a transexual or had any other weird abnormality that will come out later in your life. this is simple psychology
lmao
There are only 5 Pokemon in gen 1 that cannot solo the game
It's made for toddlers
Next video when? Holy shit he needs to get off his ass and just finish the Kanto dex already.
He's way too busy writing new jokes like
>rival fival
>the count from sesame street
and other great hits
You don't even need a single move on Venusaur other than Razor Leaf for it to completely decimate most of the game.
Charizard does technically get Slash which can also carry you pretty hard, but not only does Venusaur get STAB from Razor Leaf it's also one of the only two mons in the game that can use it and by far the better option of the two, meanwhile there's tons of Slash users that can take advantage of the move way better than Charizard.
Come on dude, I was like 5 when I played this game. All my moves were what sounded cool at the time
and Razor Leaf doesn't sound cool?
Certainly sounds cooler than Ember.
Bulbasaur was cool as shit, he was my main. The limit of my reasoning was always just "looks cool" though
You can beat both RBY and FRLG pretty easily if you go into the elite 4 right at level 50. Even if the champion is like 14 levels above you it doesn't matter.
Bro I used bulb as a fricking 6 year old and easily went through the game nice bait tho 9/10
i went for bulabasuar because havign watched the anime you already know the first three out of 4 gyms have a type advantage and the 4th is the same type
Charmander seemed moronic choice because brock is rock
he steamrolls everything once he becomes charizard
literally the most obvious bait how did it work
It's like using worms to fish, you think it don't but it do.
Nothing wrong taking the bait as an excuse to discuss gen 1
There's no such thing as normal or hard/expert mode in pokemon games.
All the starters are always strong as frick.
>There's no such thing as normal or hard/expert mode in pokemon games.
Charmander has been my best friend for 30 years. Frick off wienerroach. I will never play a Pokemon game without him
What is the Pokémon starter for the Pokémon trainer who hates Charizard, hates overrated Pokémon, hates Charmander, and wants a starter that no one uses in the adventure and no one uses in the competitive one?
everything after gen 2
What is the least popular johto starter?
chikorita
Reasons why Chikorita would be my ideal starter in Johto?
Chikorita (or rather Bayleaf, the evolution) is confirmed to canonically want to frick human men (i.e. Ash).
Also she's a cute undervalued potato thing.
choosing Chokorita in Johto is hard mode in gen 2
Chikorita is the hard-mode of Johto. Weak against the first two gyms as well as the seventh, and is resisted by the first two gems as well as two others.
Because it is CUTE!
I always picked Squirtle when I was a kid and I grew up to be a lawyer, so that makes sense. I just thought Blastoise was really cool.
He isn't as cool as Charizard, but yeah water cannons are pretty cool.
Venusaur just looks stoned.
Not him, but I assume Chikorita.
its usually whichever one a girl would pick
chikorita is like the least popular starter *period*. why do you even ask?
I guarantee you chikorita gets used more often in randomizers than in vanilla games
A bullet
I suppose it is true that starters who can use bullet seed tend to be less popular.
HACK the game and make based Aerodactyl your starter.
Grass
back in the day you could tell who was who by the starter they picked
charmander = cool kids
squirtle = normies
bulbasaur = gays/trannies
But Charmander was the hyper normie choice. So much so that Charmander is still fellated over the other two to this day.
more like
charmander=edgy tryhard (future school shooters)
squirtle=chill ass bros
bulbasaur=special education classes
>future school shooters
you just proved my point
>squirtle=chill ass bros
squirtle was the safest choice so more like future lawyers and insurance agents
and you'd only know that by being a strategy guide/game faqs chad so this may add up
>bulbasaur = gays/trannies
Dont talk about my Bulba-boy like that
more like
>charmander = hyper normies
>squirtle = bros
>bulbasaur = respectable contrarian
Isn't Charmander the hard mode due to being the lest effective against the most gyms compared to the other two?
I miss when trolling took more than a mass reply "no u" followed by a giga-chad.
except im being genuine, you and the others may be as well but like i said you're new-age, calculated, meta-parroting homosexuals
charmander was always the strongest off feel b4 spreadsheet nerds well ackchewally'd the entire game
It's strong against one (1) gym.
thinking that anyone needs "meta strategy" to beat RBY exposes you as the mouth reathing moron you are
Regardless of which starter has the optimal stats, Squirtle matches up so well against most of the gyms and Elite Four, that he's the undisputed easy mode of R&B.
You don't need to know about the technicalities of the battle system as a kid when you can solo the game with Squirtle, as I'm sure many did.
hard mode is catching a Pidgy, and then boxing your starter
hard movie is not boxing your homosexual pikachu in yellow immediately after catching a pidgey
>Pidgy
Please, catch a Metapod if you want hard (heh) mode
I always picked the water starter because they could always use ice type moves to cover the grass weakness.
Feel like bulba has a better gym mu than squirtle due to surge coming earlier than blaine. Not even thinking about e4 since they are so easy. Def bulba>squirtle>char>pikachu in terms of difficulty
>Gyms are meant to get progressively harder as game goes on
>Placing the Fire gym leader on an island you can only reach by passing through an area filled with counters to his gym (The ocean)
What did they mean by this
I beat the first two gyms using nothing but charmander and ember. I am way too fricking powerful for you homosexuals.
yeah ember is able to roast onyx pretty easily due to low special despite it not being effective. you just gotta catch some mons to take care of geodude and hope your ember burns then just potion abuse and ur golden
You didn't beat the game.
I always pick Fire
I will never pick Grass
I will never pick Water
>choosing a fire-fighting type three times in a row
Couldn't be me.
fire starters got pretty shit there for awhile sadly at least lookwise
the real hardmode pokemon expirience is when you pick charmander and over level him
the only true choice
>Pay to win shit
homosexual unless you fished up your own with an Old rod and grinded that fricker up with sweat and blood
Fishing would yield a higher level magikarp, merchant always sells you a lvl 5, meaning more *farming.
Nah. Magikarp is only lvl 5 in gen 1
Regional form when?
>Geodude used Rock Throw!
Bulbasaur is the strongest of the three.
that's why it's considered easy mode
>massive farm of metapods right before the gym
oh no... how ever will i overlevel my fire type to combat this first boss?!?
good job proving my point homosexual
with bulbasaur you can beat the first gym easily without doing shit
with charmander you have to grind on bugs and even being overleveled doesn't guarantee winning since lvl14 onyx can easily rock throw ur ass
You can get nidoran with double kick and i think mankey as well before the forest
Mankey is after the forest, you get him from the grass in the route just east of Pewter City, the way with the dead end that you can use to come back through later in the game iirc
Oh you can get him before the forest in yellow and frlg
brock was never the problem, misty's starmie was
you can catch a bellsprout/oddish from the grass north of cerulean, sure, but only pussies ditch their starter
just use ember
brock's pokemon have tiny special defense
his rocks melt
You guys just bit this homosexuals bait so hard. Why
>actual OG players realized charmander was easymode when playing normally
uuhhhh no? I hated picking Charmander because it literally sucked ass doing the first gyms with it. Squirtle and Bulbasaur were always the superior pick. Now REAL OGs played Yellow and HAD to pick Pikachu.
>it literally sucked ass doing the first gyms with it
This, especially in RB. In FRLG, you get Route 22 mankeys to help with Brock at least, but in RB you had shit. I would almost always play blue and train a Caterpie into a Butterfree for Confusion and abuse the shit out of that. There are a lot of mons you can catch before Cerulean, but they still have mostly shit moves or are weak shit. Literally nothing effective against water.
Oddish and bellsprout, and Jigglypuff with sing if you wanted to put starmie to sleep. Also bug was super effective so if you wanted, zubat/golbat or paras/parasect (neither excellent choices but at least it was super effective).
Of course not, grinding fricking sucks. Even in the later games when you have EXP share it gets dull because you can only have a 6 man team. Finding new stuff and fighting with it should be the fun part, not just added grind. Completed Let's Go Pikachu though
I never understood what's the point of grinding when you can just catch the same higher level pokemon later on in the game. The whole friendship building bullshit doesn't matter anyway as long as you have a strong team.
Higher level pokemon might not keep earlier moves you want, stat experience although wonky was a thing, and typically if you stop to grind it's because you got walled by somebody, so just catching a stronger version isn't really an option.
But generally yeah you're right, the games are easy enough that you can beat them without ever gaining experience, and wild pokemon are enough to beat gym leaders almost every time.
I do think a lot of Pokemon players have a problem where they're incapable of rotating out old mons for new ones though.
Pokemon like Dodrio or Dewgong get routinely ignored despite actually being pretty good options purely because they come relatively late in the game.
You probably already have a Pidgey you've been raising since Route 1 so why would you replace it with Doduo?
This way of playing is what leads to stuff like "The Sinnoh Team" that everyone uses because it's just made up of the most common Pokemon you find in the first half of the game.
I just played Platinum for the first time so I can comment on this.
Starter Turtwig, was going to switch it out but Curse carried me hard for a lot of fights I didn't prep for properly so he stays even though is IVs and EVs are all fricked up
>machop
For rock smash, and then because I wanted to lean into fighting, but fell off
>ponyta
Early fire type surprised me and I liked the physical fire moveset, so I stuck with it
>Staraptor
Fell off around level 20 for me, boxed it to train other stuff
>Kadabra
Had one for a while before decided to breed an actually good one
Then I made it past giratina by the skin of my teeth and decided it was time to stop getting fricked by gyarados and get a proper electric type
>magnezone
I knew shinx was there but the one I caught was shit and didn't feel like getting a new one after looking at the movepool. Also didn't realize magnezone didn't have levitate too late but it wasn't a problem
I also considered nosepass/probopass but never went and did it
>scyther
Originally just for false swipe catching pokemon, but technician-STAB-wing attack is really fricking strong
>sneasel
me metagaming to deal with cynthia's garchomp. Didn't realize I could get a gible early or I would have done that.
Final team Rapidash/Torterra/Kadabra/Scyther/Magnezone/Weavile
Currently just finished breeding a paras for speed and I'm going to EV train it for catching wandering legendaries
I was really disappointed most of the pokemon in the early game weren't new. I wound up using mostly Kanto mons.
you have a boring ass team ngl but mine isn't far off so i won't judge.
>empoleon
>drifblim because I got Mismagius in HGSS and wanted something new
>will replace luxio with magnezone because i like magnemite
>toxicroak for something different and so i can stall toxic with drifblim
>using staraptor right now but will swap out if i find something i haven't used yet
>gible when I get one, I guess?
also using drifblim stockpile right now and what the frick is this move, I've never used it in any game before this. it's insane. How does no one use this?
NPC uses it wrong, therefor kids think it's shit, like Counter/Mirror Coat to a 5 year old that barely reads.
Yeah no worries man, clearly back in 2009 I was starting to tryhard, then I was just playing with favorites, then I went back to full tryhard. Like I can see exactly where I was trying to have fun with curse and tanking hits with torterra, but then gave up and went back to fast sweepers.
honestly, looking through the national dex, dppt has an awful selection unless you want to reuse stuff from previous gens (i'm trying to do this as little as possible). there's way too many water lines and while cross gen evolutions are pretty cool to me, there's more of those than are necessary which limits the number of usuable new mons
It's because a lot of those pokemon aren't worth the hassle to swap them in. They usually come in below the level of your current team so why would you use them?
This is the main reason I stopped playing pokemon (although obviously there's plenty of other reasons newer pokemon games are bad). There's no variety in playthroughs due to the set order of available pokemon. And even across generations they basically give you the exact same creature archetypes in the exact same order.
Oh you played through PTDE or remastered?
You didn't really beat it
the OG unpatched version is easy as shit because of iron flesh.
iron flesh carries you through 2 fps blighttown?
Blighttown is piss easy even with the low fps git gud
>implying the game isnt easy already with full havels lightning zwei
how is it different to iron flesh pre nerf
Real hard mode : Playing Palworld instead
>Gen 1 has gust as a normal type move
>wing attack has a BST of 35 and sucks ass against anything not weak to it
>if you don't have drill peck, your best options are fly and sky attack
>everyone still picks Pidgey despite it having some of the worst starting bird stats of the entire franchise because Ash picked had a Pidgeotto for most of Kanto (yes it evolved, who cares it disappears until the last episode of the ashnime or whatever)
Dodrio and Fearow are so underrated. I love them
Just check the usable moves and you see which is easy, normal and hard.
>Bulbasaur
Leech seed at lv7
Vine whip at lv13
Poison powder at lv20
Razor leaf at lv 27
Growth at lv 34
Sleep powder at lv41
Solar Beam at lv48
Starts boring but has a great movepool, type is strong against the first and second, resists the third gym leader, easy mode.
>Squirtle
Bubble at lv8
Water gun at lv15
Bite at lv 22
Hydro pump at lv 42
Starts strong but learns little by itself, type rekts the first gym leader and neutral against the second, medium mode.
>Charmander
Ember at lv9
Slash at lv30
Flamethrower at lv38
The rest is all trash needs TMs even to get Fire Blast unlike the other 2 who naturally get their own 120 BP move, type is shit against the first and second gym leader, hard mode.
And forgot the Rockets, they are all pretty much poison, rocks and ground.
So Bulba can easily handle everything, so does Squirtle, the only one who is screwed is Charmander again.
Damn, poor Charmander.
Those layoffs are getting out of control.
Didn't Beat The Game:
>shift instead of set
>you used any starter beyond your first pokeball catch,
>lost to a gym leader and specifically over-leveled for the next fight
>healing / revives in-battle
My hall of fame record says otherwise anon.
hall of shame*
>always scared of overleveling pokemon because of the anime
>turns out the game is bugged that only happens with traded pokemon
Whelp, that was a waste of anxiety as an 8 year old.
Bulbasaur is the easy mode, it demolishes the first two gyms which is what matters because it's when you are most limited in choice of pokemon. By the third and fourth things open up and you have more choices
Does anyone else just have that one pokemon they've used in every single game? I basically always get a Growlithe to evolve into Arcanine as fast as possible and that's my main.
How come they never made Gold a final boss? If they did, what team would he have?
And how would you buff Typhlosion?
I guess it's because they went from
>Let's map all Japan little by little
to
>Frick it just do whatever part of it they don't have to connect
to
>Just do another country
I guess he would have the 3 starters and 3 other strong Johto only pokemon, no idea which ones, maybe to parallel Red he has a Eevee but evolved into one of the three Kanto originals.
>How come they never made Gold a final boss?
God, I remember when Ruby Sapphire came out, I was really hoping for Gold to be the final hidden boss like how Gold/Silver did it with Red, and was extremely disappointed when he wasn't. I think it would have been a neat tradition for pokemon to do.
I know it was an unreasonable expectation now but as a kid I was fully expecting to go back to Johto just like I could go back to Kanto in gen 2
>Would have been cliche, but I agree it would have been a nice tradition
>give Typhlosion, earth power and thunderbolt. Also a good ability, I stopped playing years ago so I'm not sure which
>it was an unreasonable expectation now but
Wrong. It was a perfectly valid expectation considering how much new stuff G/S/C introduced to the franchise. Gen 3 felt like 1 step forward and 2 steps back
>no day and night cycle
>no real time and day of the week
>no animated pokemon sprites that they introduced in Crystal
>no hidden boss fight (Gold)
>Only 202 pokemon in the pokedex whereas in G/S you could get all 251 at the time
I like using some underdog mons, but Pidgey is too bad, it's just not fun.
Give it Ice Punch. I don't have any idea that would actually be good, but I always liked it having Thunder Punch.
>people trying to rewrite history
Squirtle was always the more normal popular choice than charmander at the time, with charmander being the hipster alternative (no one but homos cared about bulbasaur). Now after 25 years of "actually, charmander was the cool hardcore choice for original free thinkers like me" online posting you've gaslit yourself into believing charmander was more popular when the entire point is he wasn't.
It's going to depend on your school. At my school most people went charmander. I set up a series of trades with my friend so we'd both have all 3 starters.
>1st gym is rock type
>2nd gym is water type
It was the most difficult start and filtered millions.
>he didn't gouge his eyes out
fricking casuals i swear
let me guess, you "need" your hands too?
I had yellow so I didn't struggle