I've been replaying doom eternal after replaying doom 2016 and its actually crazy how much of a step in the wrong direction this game takes with almost every aspect of the gameplay. who the frick thought this shit was a good idea?
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Hugo Martin. He saved the FPS genre, created the best FPS game ever made that makes all other redundant by comparison, makes Ganker seethe eternally and countless FPS games will take inspiration from Eternal for decades to come and there isn’t a goddamn thing you can do about it.
I haven't seen one take inspiration from Eternal since it launched
Steam is filled to the brim with Eternal boomer shooter ripoffs the last 3 years since it released. Only a couple are any good though
Also Shadow Warrior 3 tried to blatantly copy it and did okay, but that game failed for other reasons. As it should have.
boomer shooter and doom eternal clones are two completely different things
Shadow warrior 3
Turbo Overkill
A perfect example of first post, best post.
Absolutely based FPBP. Eternal haters are literally insane.
I kneel.
>of the gameplay
uwot? the gameplay is way superior, it's so good in fact that it makes going back to 2016 a rough time, I mostly appreciate 2016 for the ambiance, atmosphere and story these days because the combat arenas suck, gore nests suck, the combat just isn't there.
Eternal fricked up a lot of things but gameplay isn't one.
>Superior gameplay
>Meant to go fast but put in Souls enemy like Marauder and spirit to slow you down
>Shitty "use this weapon to kill that monster" gimmick
>Obviously tried hard to force player to use every weapon even the shitty one like microwave by making them the only way to kill annoying monsters like spirit
>moron ammo scarcity to artificially force player to chainsaw, this results in you running around looking for shitty mob to chainsaw to refill, disrupting flow of combat
ADHD zoomers think they know everything about fps with nu-doom, how cute.
>Filtered by Marauders
Ohhh I see why you troons thing this game is worse now!
morons having difficulty with English comprehension I see!
Microwave is not shitty.
t. UN-chad.
>I want to stand still while a billion demon wieners rape my ass
It is, dum-dum.
Try giving them the old love tap instead.
And here we have tourists who don't even know how that gun works.
I completed the game on UN tho. Chaingun Shield saved me many times.
>I want to stand still
Yes.
t. Chaingun Shield enjoyer
use momentum to stay in movement while beaming
gameplay
Yes
to go fast but put in Souls enemy like Marauder and spirit to slow you down
It doesnt slow you if you learn to time attacks and multi focus.
"use this weapon to kill that monster" gimmick
Can ignore that
tried hard to force player to use every weapon even the shitty one like microwave by making them the only way to kill annoying monsters like spirit
Unironically dont kill the spirit, let it possess another demon, game's more fun that way
ammo scarcity to artificially force player to chainsaw, this results in you running around looking for shitty mob to chainsaw to refill, disrupting flow of combat
That only happens in very specific fights in Master Levels, not the base game.
>ADHD zoomers think they know everything about fps with nu-doom, how cute.
Maybe if you only played 1 (one)
FPS
to go fast but put in Souls enemy like Marauder and spirit to slow you down
>nooooo variety bad
Kek what a moron
Thanks for confirming you never played the game, moron-kun.
damn the combat looks like AIDs in eternal.
>instantly cries about marauder
every time lol. I genuinely believe the only people who prefer 2016 are just bad at video games and need an easier experience. That or turbo morons who care about the story/lore of doom.
I guess neither was that good after all.
Another one of these threads where the criticism of this game comes down to "Well I just don't like it"
Most criticism boils down to that.
>Bad music
You just didn't like it.
>Uninteresting mechanics
You just don't like them.
People want to play games that they like.
All criticism of Eternal boils down to that.
>story was shit
You just didn't like it.
Correct.
I dislike eternal just because I don't like all the weapons, but feel forced(or at least HEAVILY encouraged) to use all of them all the time. The purpose of variety is just to have something appealing to everyone, not have everyone using everything. The game feels more like playing an MMO cycling cooldowns and performing an ability rotation during a fight, just in a first person perspective. That's not what I look for in shooters, ergo I don't like it. I'm just looking to blowing shit up in ways I find fun with the weapons I like, even better if it's co-op. Fortunately, there's plenty of other shooters out there just like that, so I've got no reason to try and force myself to like eternal.
>I don't like all the weapons, but feel forced(or at least HEAVILY encouraged) to use all of them all the time
you "need" to use 1 shell weapon, 1 bullet weapon, 1 cell weapon and rocket launcher
2016 and Trannernal are literally the exact same feces, little zoom zoom homo. Pure 2010s' zoom zoom console goyslop.
They could not be further away from "DOOM".
>console goyslop
unlike old dooms with their auto aim and no vertical aiming eternal is borderline not playable on controller you braindead homosexual
Try speaking like an adult you goddamn frickwit
>doom 2016 max shotgun shells: 60
>doom eternal max shotgun shells: 24
???????????
Hugo said he didn't want people running around with the double barrel like they did in 2016, basically forces you to use other weapons.
I also don't like the ammo decisions in Eternal, rather than having well placed map design with ammo, they went with infinitely spawning fodder and a chainsaw loop to get ammo back.
A mistake imo, but it's still fun.
>spawning fodder and a chainsaw loop
does the eternal chainsaw does not have ammo like doom 2016?
it does but on average your ammo cap in eternal is a fraction of what it was in 2016. they pretty much force you to constantly use the chainsaw
the chainsaw ammo was ver scarce in 2016
the first charge refills passively, but you need multiple charges to use it on anything bigger than an imp
>the first charge refills passively
that makes the ammo issue irrelevant then, how much time does the recharge need?
long enough to be a problem if you manage your ammo badly
the gameplay goes like
>shoot dudes with guns
>run out of ammo for guns
>find small dude to chainsaw
>go back to shooting dudes with guns
you're supposed to use your guns evenly, prioritize enemy weaknesses, and use your other cooldown-based tools so that you don't run out of ammo before the chainsaw is ready again
It basically just becomes of a game of dumping all of your ammo as fast as you can until the cooldown recharges. Gets boring pretty quick.
>just becomes of a game of dumping all of your ammo
Yes, you do indeed shoot enemies in First Person Shooters.
>wants people to use their whole arsenal by limiting ammo
>but also adds an infinitely refueling chainsaw that you're forced to use to regain ammo
>can still run around using nothing but the double barrel, you just need to run off and press C on an imp every few minutes. "Punishment" can be invalidated instantly in a few seconds with a single button press
>end up being pressured less than in 2016, where running out of shells meant you fricked up bad and are simply without shells until you find an ammo pickup or gas can, an actual impactful, lasting punishment for relying on one weapon that also promotes classic Doom exploration to replenish resources
These morons do not understand game design. They don't even understand Doom.
>running out of shells in 2016
This is just irrelevant. In 2016 you never run out unless you are just shooting into a wall. Gas cans and ammo crates galore. In Eternal the chainsaw only gives 50% of your max ammor which for the shotgun is 24 shells. The ssg takes 2 shells per shot. This means that in your scenario the player would have to fire the ssg a maximum of 6 times between chainsaw recharges in order to not run out completely. This is obviously unbelievably contrived and moronic.
t. UN-CHAD
>They don't even understand Doom.
Of course not. They cancelled Id's Doom 4 to make a lazy hallway shooter & pandered it to /misc/. "Demons are like immigrants" was cringy gay shit. Doomguy retcon? Just stick him in the ripped shirt from the box art because they didn't look at the sprites or anything else.
These 2 games belong in a garbage can.
>They cancelled Id's Doom 4
imagine simping for Tim Willits' abortion of a Doom game
shit's literally worse than Call of Duty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvb04gU_UmU
DE Combat Shotgun is much stronger than 2016’s crappy shotgun, and SSG is also stronger until you get Double Trouble in 2016 (it deals like 1000 damage per blast in 2016 and 1700 in Eternal).
The combat in Doom Eternal is way more fun than in Doom 2016.
wow its actually crazy how wrong you are.
i will not elaborate
i will not reply
And then the Eternal fanboys act like you're playing chess or solving high level mathematics doing bada bing gibberish. No i'm not kidding.
Hugo literally described Doom Eternal’s combat and enemy roster like pieces on a chessboard. Stop being disingenuous.
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>Hugo literally described Doom Eternal’s combat and enemy roster like pieces on a chessboard.
this is the most pretentious moronic shit ive read in a while
eternal would unironically be perfect if they just kept the same ammo count from doom 2016
DOOM 2016 is fricking boring, you don't even have to try
So says the ADHD zoomer who think mashing jumping button every second like a monkey on acid is great fps design.
So says the TRUMP voter with aids who wasted their own wallet with his vote, pretty uncool tbh.
Aren't you the dumbest and littlest of Black folk?
Are you the worst autist ever?
Don't you think he knows that already?
Don't you think we knows that already?
No.
Yes.
>doom 2016
ok but very generic and bland
>eternal
great idea but with some very r3tarded aspects of it, and absolute dogshit bossfights or special sequences. play ultrakill instead tbh
Who keeps making these threads, I'm certain you got all you were gonna get out of your spam the first 10 times you made this thread
I fricking hate how annoying cacodemons are in eternal compared to 2016.
>bro just sticky bomb them
You got filtered by having to do more than circle strafe didn’t you lmao.
There are alot of things wrong with doom eternal- especially in regards to the story and lore- but the gameplay is not one of them
It's on rails simon says "boom booom". You'd have to be 12 to say it's good.
Your opinion is invalid unless you beat everything including the master levels and dlcs on ultra nightmare
I love this game but I was a raging alcoholic when it released and I'm pretty sure it gave me a couple mini heart attacks over the course of the 120 hours I put into it. It's too intense sometimes
My fingers would also kill by the time I was done with a 2 hour session, I was unironically playing like that sweating guy meme who looks like Tom Cruise
Yea it just feels less like doom and more like Mario in doom skin. Which is probably why it's on Switch. It even has that Animal crossing meme video and everything.
its weird seeing some of Ganker contrarians change their mind on this game and claim people are getting filtered like its a hard game or something.
It is a hard game. You got filtered. Admit it. The marauder, huh..
use more than the shotgun and learn the gameplay loop
>devs unironically use the term "gameplay loop" when talking about the combat
Nooo it's fun just keep doing the loop, you just didn't do the loop enough to find the fun!
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The only thing eternal did wrong was keep the glory kill iframe stupid shit. Everything else about it was a straight upgrade.
I know this is a bit autistic but I hate how "videogame-ey" eternal is. like in 2016 you would find new guns on a dead body and have an animation of you ripping it out of their hands. in eternal you just walk around and see some weird floating 3d model of a gun spinning around bright neon green. its really immersion breaking
same with a lot of the secrets
i havent played eternal yet but i found doom 2016 unironically scary at the beginning, the atmosphere and maps are fantastic
It genuinely makes it more "classic Doom", but it's a step backwards.
>It genuinely makes it more "classic Doom"
No the frick it does not, zoomer. You haven't played the old games.
Yes, I remember all the immersive cutscenes in the original Doom when you got weapons. None of them were ever floating in space for no real reason.
Shut the frick up moron
>noooo don't call me out on being the one who never played a doom game before 2020
Rude newbie
Yeah they completely ruined secrets in eternal. In 2016 the secrets were well places and felt like a natural part of the map. You could even get certain weapons early if you know where to find them. In eternal they just feel tacked on, like they decided a secret is supposed to be there then carved out a part of the map.
>a videogame being a videogame is le bad
meanwhile you fricks love death stranding and metal gear,which are mostly fricking movies
you got filtered,its always people like you shit on DE,lol
I disliked the third person cutscenes for the same reason, in 2016 you maintained a constant first person view and control was rarely ever taken away totally, making the player really immersed and part of the story as a power fantasy should. Weird to say, but I really liked being locked in a room, like Hayden's office, for about a minute looking at the artefacts or pretending to sit on a chair, it was fun downtime between engagements without being mind numbingly boring and when a cutscene was required it didn't strictly break the FPV and were incredibly brief, like the close up of the first imp or triggering Vega's core meltdown. It really feels like you're someone in this real world rather than just playing a video game, which Eternal fails in by making you a spectator of a gameshow.
Imo they divulged too much and went too far making it an epic fantasy when Doom is supposed to be a dark sci-fi with fantasy elements; reading the Codex and watching the cutscenes really makes me feel like there's just nothing left when 2016 set promised so much. It also doesn't help that most of the homosexuals fawning over the game literally cannot read the lore, so baseless misconceptions proliferate rampantly.
You low IQ Black folk need to stop complaining about Eternal. Go back to your third-world shit holes.
Remember how good the new God of War and Tomb Raider games where you slowly crawled around on the walls?
Let's put those into Doom, right in the middle of a fight. Real nice and slow wall crawling section every 30 seconds.
Also full ammo for any weapon is enough to kill one monster, then you have to switch weapons.
slow wall crawling section
There is not a single wall climbing section in the game that you can't complete in 5 seconds. 99% of them are able to be cleared in less than 1 second. Imagine getting filtered because you don't know how to move in a shooter.
>bro its just shit it only takes 3 seconds to eat a turd its no big deal
>3 seconds
I said less than 1 second for the vast majority. It's actually satisfying if you didn't play it like a fricking boomer who has no sense of momentum.
You just aren't smart enough to understand Eternal.
I remember playing 2016 and finishing it in one breath, it was like a fever dream
When I booted up Shiternal, I think I lasted 2 hours before taking a 2 week break from the bing bing wahoo
I’d rather watch the live action 2016 trailer than even think about playing shiternal
forget the gameplay. why is the eternal lore so fricking bad? they also retcon a bunch of shit
It absolutely blows my mind that doom eternal is the hill half of Ganker chose to die on, and they did it by endlessly screaming "filtered" and worshipping some pretentious hack's word as if it were gospel. I have yet to see a single argument in favour of Eternal that did not feature one or both of those talking points, and I doubt I ever will.
Ultrakill unironically does everything Doom Eternal did, but better and without forcing you to play by arbitrary rules like incredibly obnoxious ammo limits.
Because the game was already taking itself too seriously in 2016, it just so happened to exercise some restraint and only indulge itself a little bit.
Carmack is moronic and im happy 2016 had more story instead of loosely connected map chain with tidbits every 9 maps
You're happy that a series previously known for being almost pure ganeplay decided to start completely arresting its momentum with lengthy, unskippable cutscenes for a weak excuse plot that ended on some of the most insultingly obvious sequel bait in gaming?
At least doom 3's cutscenes were skippable.
fact there was almost no story made game drop into irrelevancy
i havent played eternal but 2016 cutscenes are very short and concise complaining about it like its some sony movie game is absurd.
>DOOM
>irrelevant
>the literal father of FPS, the game that was so immensely popular it literally created HORDES of clones
>the game that, to this very day, continues to have gigabytes of fan content created for it every single day
>fricking irrelevant
Am I being trolled right now?
You are, Quake is the one that became irrelevant.
Quake is still relevant in my heart.
>father of FPS
yes and its formula got forever changed once half life got released, even id made doom3 into a horror game with a story.
>the game that, to this very day, continues to have gigabytes of fan content created for it every single day
doomworld troons obsessively speedruning and making maps doesnt make it popular. The player base is minuscule compared to story driven fps.
The second you started talking about "troons" is the second your entire argument was invalidated. You tipped your hand too early.
its literally a troon infested shithole you moron
so is Ganker, and yet you post here.
they are not welcome here while its safe space and echo chamber on doomworld
You will never be a woman, your life will end by a rope
Neither will you, homosexual, frick off.
The only thing Ultrakill does better is stimulate the prostate of the gays and trannies who are the primary audience of that game.
> without forcing you to play by arbitrary rules like incredibly obnoxious ammo limits
>every variant of every weapon has an mmo cooldown
2016 lore was already pretty shit but you could ignore most of it.
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eternal
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how did they get away with reusing basically the same guns and gun mods from 2016 to eternal. they barely changed anything
The same way the older dooms and quakes got away with it. Just do it.
Literally made D16 unplayable for me for about 2 years till i decided to tryhard UN on D16.
Eternal improved everything but story compared to 16.
are the maykers/kahns supposed to be like aliens/interdimensional beings?
2016
>neat single player fps
>takedowns are silly but okay
>weapons look and feel great
>moronic 80 gig file size
>completed the whole thing
eternal
>kill 2-3 enemies
>lol out of ammo
>uninstall
1 and 2
>i melee enemy because i feel like it, rip and tear
2016
>i melee enemy because i feel like it, rip and tear
eternal
>noooo you didn't do the special melee so it can't even kill the very first enemy
>uninstall
Post a webm of yourself meeling a cyberdemon.
Do I need to beat it through infighting to say removing it was a dumb decision and having pretend infighting is even dumber?
My only complaint with the game is the platforming mechanics, because I just hate platformers. I also think they made the ammo "economy" work the way it does was to force you to use your whole arsenal. This isn't an optimal game design choice, IMO. Would have rather seen them implement more synergy between weapon types that made switching more effective. This would have encouraged players to switch weapons a lot but allowed them to play the way they want either way.
Will Doom and Quake go back to being dungeon-crawlers with spooky occult stuff in their next entries?
I liked it, but I'm open to different opinions. What didn't you like about it?
The weapon balance is better, generally. I miss the Gauss Siege, and the ballista doesn't feel as good, but overall the weapon balance is much better. The problems with the gameplay are mostly down to the constant fricking cooldowns on everything. So I wouldn't say it's worse, just more of a sidegrade: guns work better, other mechanics don't work as well.
It's all of the style and tone that are irreparably fricked in Eternal.
Eternal:
>moronic melee
>moronic low ammo
Finished the game then uninstalled, didn't even try the DLCs while I 100% finished 2016
>No arcade mode with refined medal system and eternal movement options
just finished Doom 2016 on UV, it was actually somewhat hard at the beginning cause i didnt play fps games in a decade.
Will i get filtered on UV in Eternal?
No but first levels might be hard because you don't have your full arsenal
>make a thread praising or just generally discussing a game
>Ganker collectively tells you it's shit
>make a thread criticizing the same game
>Ganker collectively tells you it's good
I finally get it now.
Ganker is filled to brink with console trash who play nothing but sony video game movies and gatchas
post stupid webms of sweaty duum zoom homosexuals switching weapons like a moron and spazzing around
the fact that they literally balanced the game around people ADHD weapon swapping like that is pretty telling
I loved Eternal, it ruined a lot of other shooters for me. However, every boss/marauder is about as fun as dragging my balls across broken glass so now I just play Ultrakill.
BethesDoom is /misc/ shit that got used as toilet paper by Zenimax, enforcing wokeness to piss off the Nazi scum the devs sucked off. I enjoy watching the "it represents masculinity" white homosexuals getting mad at the Hasbro pony armor & him being israeli now. I still won't even pirate then because they're still Bethesda shit games of no value.
>bethesda
you would think that lack of game breaking glitches, good optimization and moronic rag doll animation would give away fact id made, guess cant expect much from mentally ill shizo
>BethesDoom is /misc/ shit that got used as toilet paper by Zenimax, enforcing wokeness to piss off the Nazi scum the devs sucked off. I enjoy watching the "it represents masculinity" white homosexuals getting mad at the Hasbro pony armor & him being israeli now. I still won't even pirate then because they're still Bethesda shit games of no value.
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/708638370811854848/deconstructing-the-dark-lord
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/721951701685387264/the-new-loredirection-is-more-likely-to-be-made
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/717340895918292992/doom-eternal-art-styleaesthetic-stuff
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/707372396404998144/hypotheticals-if-doom-was-always-a-story-focused
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/712445413752487936/horror-does-have-a-place-in-doom
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/707073276486221824/list-of-things-that-may-not-exist-without-doom
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/707011405803569152/how-eternal-is-doom
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/706920604072296448/random-thoughts-about-quake-horror-night
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/718757862895173632/something-about-speed-in-fps-games
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/727884930344960000
>left: sci fi horror
>right: pixar version
People already said 2016 looked "like a moba" when it was revealed.
Actual sci-fi horror would be something even more fricked up looking than the D3 design.
>moba
nobody said that
When the first screenshots of Doom 2016 were released, posters here were saying Cyberdemon looks "like a mooze" and "like DOTA character". They were also complaining about "piss filter" and asking where did the colors go.
Now 2016 is an old game and old game good
>complains about occasional yellow haze on mars surface and hell maps with lava everywhere and orange sky
funny how morons like you will cry about that but ignore doom 1/2 looking like a kids cartoon with tomato cacos
I didn't complain about Doom 2016, idiot. I said Gankertards like you complained about it and now they are sucking it dick.
>doom 1/2 looking like a kids cartoon with tomato cacos
So you don't even like Doom, you like brown and bloom sci-fi shooters.
They just posed him for a cool screenshot. In the E3 video he appears in Kadingir Sanctum: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUvzJSysXck
Like the Arch-Vile in DE E3 demo.
I'm posting first official screenshots of Doom 2016. They didn't show VEGA back then (best level in D2016 by far), and VEGA being different doesn't change that most of the game is colored like poop.
>you like brown and bloom sci-fi shooters.
Claiming doom 2016 has no colors and its yellow filter like fnv is dishonest and moronic.
>don't even like Doom
ciomming from homosexual who said old good new bad not so long ago, fyi i finished every single doom except eternal so far and i think doom 2016 is superior to old dooms.
>Claiming doom 2016 has no colors and its yellow filter like fnv
I actually defended Doom 2016 back in 2015. I said "look, it's clearly yellow because of colored lighting from lava, like in Quake 2".
>old good new bad
I like Eternal and Doom 2 addons the most. So sometimes old good, sometimes new good.
> fyi i finished every single doom except eternal so far and i think doom 2016 is superior to old dooms
So you don't like Doom, then. And that's okay. But 2016 is the furthest Doom from Doom except for maybe Doom 3.
>2016 is the furthest Doom
lmao now you are going to tell me that doom eternal is closer to old dooms with its its ammo management autistic weapon swapping and speed movement and hooks
>you don't like Doom
i like them but the truth is they are archaic games without basic features like free mouse look, jumping, vertical aiming and with auto aim. Im not some nostalgia gay putting it on a pedestal cause its old.
>lmao now you are going to tell me that doom eternal is closer to old dooms
it literally looks like old Dooms
It has monsters from Doom 2 and it has monster numbers closer to originals. It has entirely different mechanics but so does 2016. 2016 introduced leveling up, perks, runes, weapon points etc.
>games without basic features like free mouse look, jumping, vertical aiming and with auto aim
Do they need those, though? I don't think that vanilla original games are THAT good by themselves, but user content is unrivaled in quality. You can find WADs designed for classic controls, but you can also find WADs designed for modern ports which support vertical aim and jumping (and even require it).
Still, the art style didn't "age". Old Dooms were colorful games. They had some darkness, horror elements, some bloody corpses strewn around, but they weren't all brown and gritty like, say, Quake.
Leave and make up your own opinion.
>it literally looks like old Dooms
still parroting that color bullshit, it has nothing to do with filters but setting, most of the time it takes palce on surface of mars, in hell and industrial areas with melted metal there will be orange ambient tint in this place, its like complaining original dooms are red in fricking hell chapter. Gameplay wise doom 2016 is much closer to old games you can run around with super shotgun and weapon swap for entire game something which is in doom eternal heavily discouraged not to mention completely different movement. Its also a lot more atmospheric.
>still parroting that color bullshit
Dude you said it yourself that cacos in OG look like red tomatoes. That's how they're supposed to look. And even Hell in DE is more colorful.
>Gameplay wise doom 2016 is much closer to old games you can run around with super shotgun
You don't have infinite ammo in OG Doom and SSG isn't as powerful - it's like RL, but with less range, DPS and splash.
what else are you going to tell me that zombies should use free library camel sound (also used in aoe2) from doom1/2 too?
Sovl
RL and PG are better and ammo isn't that rare. I guess it also depends on whether you consider Plutonia canon.
i didnt claim its the best weapon but it is satisfying to use and has great sound effects, ammo is plentiful so you end up walking around with it most of the time.
Oh it is satisfying, no doubt about that.
The thing with Eternal is that it is not a hard game, but you gotta learn the rules. You can't just go in and say "I don't need any of your mechanics, I will grab this gun and go nuts". You gotta learn the ropes first, and then you can get away with a lot of bullshit.
>You don't have infinite ammo in OG Doom and SSG isn't as powerful
SSG is literally THE weapon i would argue its stronger than even doom 2016 version, maybe if you are playing some autistic WADs ammo is a problem but we are talking about base games and there was never a big issue for me similar to doom 2016.
oh and they also said he has "glowing thing in the chest like Iron Man because of Marvel"
/v/tards were really ripping this design apart but now it's le gritty sci-fi horror
now this picture, this picture caused a lot of comments
"look at this shit, it's brown, Doom is supposed to be colorful and fun, this is just poop colored"
if only those posters knew the next Doom will have colors and they'll hate it for that huh
huh. its weird seeing the cyberdemon here in that screenshot. wonder if they wanted it to be a normal enemy also at some point. I don't think the boss arena looked like that
cherry picking much homosexual?
D44M/DOOM:E walked so UK could run
I like them both for different reasons but if they do another sequel I hope its way more like 16.
>10h to download 70gb eternal dodi reppack
>BING BONG WAHOO
I just wanna kill demons man. Frick your platforming and secret items. Also frick the low ammo count.
The platforming and lack of ammo are shit but the whole gameplay loop of having to chainsaw for ammo is terrible and cucks your movement in a genre that has mostly been about aiming and strafeing previously
>Played and Loved Doom 2016 a couple weeks ago
>see everyone online talk about how they think Eternal is either a step backward or a complete upgrade
it really depends on your taste to be completely honest.
It doesn't. It is 100% an upgrade in every way. There isn't a legit argument otherwise.
It doesn't. It is 100% an downgrade in every way. There isn't a legit argument otherwise.
This and it's derivatives is much better. Prove me wrong.
i've been replaying the entire series, but never played eternal. is it hard? what's fun and what's crummy about it? if you love it, feel free to shill hard because i am excited to try it. but if you think it sucks, i'd like to hear that too.