I’ve never cared less about a game’s story.
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get ready for a whole lot more of it in Eternal
At the very least, Eternal has zero unskippable "watch the npc do something behind a locked door" segments, so Eternal still wins out on the story department. Even if it adds a lot of unnecessary fluff
Played through the first 2 stages and then dropped it. I hate how this game feels, it's like shooting cardboard enemies and unlike the real doom games, bodies just vanish into thin air and just because of that; i'm out
>it's like shooting cardboard enemies
You haven't played 5 minutes of this, you want clout for mentioning the original doom. Stop begging for attention.
i hate how you have to glory kill almost every monster. severely ruins the flow. and i know you don’t have to but otherwise you’re just constantly hunting for health or ammo which is equally boring
>i hate how you have to
>and i know you don’t have to
Make up your damn mind.
there’s a thing called context you stupid fricking pajeet
There's also a thing called contradicting yourself, you shortbus menace.
there was no contradiction in that statement you stupid fricking esl it was a statement followed by a caveat. stop being or larping as a fricking dumbass and wasting everyone’s time.
There was, it was pointed out to you and you started foaming at the mouth like a rabid animal.
>i hate how you have to glory kill almost every monster
You don't
there's more to the story than killing demons invading our dimension?
No, and the game encourages you to ignore the story from the opening scene. I don't know what this thread is even about.
>the game encourages you to ignore the story from the opening scene
if that was the case they would let you skip cutscenes and other exposition dumps
nudoomgays are allergic to the truth but the games are very typical AAA slop
Doomguy literally skips the dialogue for you so I don't know what you want.
He was Jack Garland before it was cool.
You're a lying shitter
Too bad they lock you in a room with half of God while he expouses at you for 20 minutes
Literally never happened.
there is if you want to dig deep into it, and its kinda vague and still pretty cool.
But eternal REALLY fricking jumped the shark with corny capeshit crusader ancient warrior shit etc
DUDE! REMEMBER HOW DOOM USED TO HAVE LOADS OF SECRET ROOMS N SHIT????! OK GET THIS... IMAGINE.... WE REBOOT THE GAME AND..... ADD IN 1 BILLION COLLECTABLES AND LORE PIECES YOU HAVE TO STOP AND READ!!! IT'S GENIUS!!! IT'S JUST LIKE THE GAME YOU USED TO PLAY BACK IN THE 90'S!!!!
don’t forget the challenges. in the middle of a level randomly teleport to an empty room and run around and kill 12 imps before time runs out.
what a bunch of fricking immersion ruining bullshit padding nonsense
worst is the reductionism
>what do you mean it's not like the original doom? you run and shoot so it's exactly the same design wise
yeah they really feel like tacked on for extra content, the classic maps as well because the enemy pathfinding doesn't function properly without all the preset waypoints
>YOU HAVE TO STOP AND READ!!!
Try again, tubby. You want that oldzkool e-cred so bad, yet it never comes. It just doesn't happen to you.
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/708638370811854848/deconstructing-the-dark-lord
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/721951701685387264/the-new-loredirection-is-more-likely-to-be-made
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/717340895918292992/doom-eternal-art-styleaesthetic-stuff
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/707372396404998144/hypotheticals-if-doom-was-always-a-story-focused
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/712445413752487936/horror-does-have-a-place-in-doom
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/707073276486221824/list-of-things-that-may-not-exist-without-doom
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/707011405803569152/how-eternal-is-doom
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/706920604072296448/random-thoughts-about-quake-horror-night
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/718757862895173632/something-about-speed-in-fps-games
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/727884930344960000
https://doom-nerdo-666.tumblr.com/post/744287325256810496/doom-canon-fandom-future
souls versus soulless hits so hard in this one...
You homosexuals don't like Doom you just like b***hing about Doom
You're right. NuDoom is trash. Original Doom is trash. I'll stick with Blood instead.
Enjoy your hitscanners and shitty level design.
>crying about hitscanners
Learn to not rush into encounters and move while gunning. Hilarious you'd call levels where every enemy is pre-placed so you can actually strategically analyze each situation "shit level design" while fellating a dogshit monster closet game where half the encounters are literally just "*teleports behind u* heh nuthin personnel" slop.
Rote memorization and snail-paced exploration where you interact with enemies as little as physically possible isn't interesting game design just because you eventually got good at it.
Doom is literally built entirely on rote memorisation, you absolute moron. With Blood you can just slice the cake going into every room and you're prepared. With doom you get raped by triggering 20 enemies spawning all around you then reload with knowledge that there's an encounter there. My first playthrough of Blood was on well done and I only ever used one save at the start of a level. Doom is a quicksave simulator.
How bad do you need to be to get filtered by doom? Enemies rarely spawn while you're in a room, they mostly use monster closets unless you're playing on nightmare. How have you managed to be wrong about everything all throughout the thread?
>How bad do you need to be to get filtered by doom?
How bad do you need to be to get filtered by Blood? Try formulating an actual argument instead of being a homosexual next time.
blood absolutely opens monster closets on you, the difference is that in blood the monster closet instantly kills you. I've played through blood episode 1 and plutonia experiment with the one save per level rule and blood was incredibly lame to play in comparison to Doom. You rarely get those moments where you just whip out rockets or plasma gun and start blasting everything, it's a tactical shooter masquerading as a boomer shooter from start to finish.
Any "monster closets" in Blood are behind clearly visible doors, meaning when you walk into a level you know something will come out of that exact spot and so you can already start mapping in your head nearest cover and movements available to you. Getting "instakilled" by one is down to your stupidity and unpreparedness entirely. Rarely if ever does the game pull the same kind of "spawning enemies all around you in a completely random location" shit that doom pulls.
I thought 2016's story and setting were pretty good, and for what it's worth, it's all tucked away in logs that you can completely ignore
unlike Eternal
Honestly, I want to care about stories in games but I never can. Too many of them have lore tied to external media or lines and lines of in game text and dialogue that any sane person would skip because they’re busy playing the game. Also a lot of fiction is just nonsensical rubbish that doesn’t make sense that it becomes hard to give a shit about the plot since I’m left with more questions than answers. To date the only stories I’ve been able to give a shit about were halo, gears of war, and resident evil, and that’s because I’ve played all their main games multiple times from when I was young, and watched multiple YouTube videos about their plots. But these days I’m left wishing game stories were more moron proof.
I largely agree. I've played so many games, I have over 120 on my Deck right now. The amount of vidya stories I've actually felt impressed and engrossed by can be counted on half of one hand. I used to attribute it to me growing up reading more than playing games, but I think storytelling just doesn't really fit the medium. Obviously most gamers are fine with these shit stories and I'm not judging them for it, clearly we're the outliers, but I just don't give a frick 99% of the time and I really really want to.
The most I've aggressively not cared about a game's story is The Division 2. I don't think even the writers cared.
it's better than Eternal, in design at least.
all Eternal does is play around with le epic vertical meme and add a couple of new enemies.
Should I give Eternal another try? I love 2016, but dropped Eternal because it felt worse in almost every way. But people continue to say that it's the best shooter ever or something which makes me hesitant.
2016 is great. Eternal is a terrible Doom game. It’s great if you want super mario bros with a gun. but even then i think it’s gay.
I don't know, you sound like you're exaggerating for effect. I don't think there are that many platforming sections in Eternal anyway. I don't see how thinking 2016 is great and hating Eternal are compatible opinions.
I think it's because it's the latest one in the series and it means it's automatically bad in that troubled head of yours.
Well, it's faster and more aggressive, it keeps you moving at all times and it feels better in almost every way. If you're kind of a slow fella you might want to stick to something more turn-based.
I didn't like Eternal because you have to constantly move around, and have predefined tactics to everything. Meanwhile I can just walk and shoot with a double-barrel shotgun everything in the 2016.
>Meanwhile I can just walk and shoot with a double-barrel shotgun everything in the 2016.
So 2016 is an actual DOOM game, got it.
So Doom Episode IV isn't an actual Doom game, got it.
>you have to constantly move around
You are correct.
>and have predefined tactics to everything
You are incorrect.
Make of it what you will.
zoomer ass comment
That's not an argument, fatchild.
It was in the way and made it's sequel unplayable. I play id games for the graphics and I was disappointed. Massive downgrades from what was shown at quakecon/e3 as usual. Al; the difference between being impressive or not. Controls on console are better than most but still unplayable. Lack of ADS has no place. Next time use a low res and make everywhere look different. Each level may as well be a couple of rooms. Seeing the same thing over and over in an attempt to get you lost sucks.
So you're complaining about being a consoleshitter that needs ADS, can't discern great graphics and needs a deep narrative for a game to be playable. Was the point of your post to embarrass yourself?
why would you ever play a FPS game on a console, are you fricking moronic?
more fun than kbm which requires zero skill
omg you clicked exactly where you put the pointer what a based epic gamer
its like driving a car on square wheels.
you can do it if you want, but its still fricking moronic.
Yet another thread of Marauder victims screeching and kvetching. What is it about this saucy lad that breaks baddies?
marauder is the only enemy in the base game that forces you at gunpoint to learn how to fight them, which is arguably bad design. Maybe on lower difficulties Marauder's swing should've been slowed down and his weakened state been made longer
for all of the complaints that eternal has "simon says enemies" every normal enemy in the game can be trivialized by turning down the difficulty and hitting them with a lot of whatever- except the marauder who will repeatedly wreck you until you can find a way to consistently get past the shield. he's the only enemy (other than bosses) who won't accept you turning your brain off and emptying all of your weapons
>marauder is the only enemy in the base game that forces you at gunpoint to learn how to fight them, which is arguably bad design
marauder is the epitome of peak FPS design and it filtered out low IQ homosexuals who grew up holding X.
>enemy forces you at gunpoint to learn how to fight them,
>which is arguably bad design.
No, adding some challenge to the "shoot everything until it dies" formula is not bad design. Maybe if you're a baddy.
I don't care about the Marauder and I like enemies having counters, but if lowering the difficulty makes every enemy brainless except for this one particular enemy, that could be an issue. If they're already saying that they don't care to learn the game and they just want to run through it there's little reason that you couldn't crank down the things that makes the Marauder uniquely punishing on a difficulty that isn't supposed to be punishing.
ULTRAKILL changes enemy behaviors and makes their attacks far, far slower, for instance.
His animations are moronic and don't convey what he's doing, you end up just keeping distance and waiting for the "ching" sound.
And the duration on the stun is so short it severely restricts which weapons you can use, so you end up just doing stun -> quickswap to BFG and click asap.
It's fine because Eternal gives you a FRICKTON of tools to generate infinite resources and to dodge everything, but I'd rather play 99% of the game's content that does NOT have a Marauder in it.
Marauder works best when he's just a part of a bigger encounter and creates sort of a hazard zone you avoid while dealing with more dangerous (ranged) threats, while occasionally chipping at him if you feel like it.
>His animations are moronic and don't convey what he's doing
And you constantly make shit up to mask your incompetence.
DOOM 2016 and Eternal were gifts from God himself to save the FPS genre.
HALO effectively killed the entire FPS shooter genre for almost 20 years.
It took DOOM 2016 and DOOM Eternal to remind people that FPS shooters are supposed to be fast as frick and filled with action.
>FINALLY!
>A GAME I CAN ZEEM ZOOM KABLOOM SHWEEM KAWOOSH DODGE DASH GRENADE FLAMETHROWER PUNCH JUMP ACROSS THE FRICKING MAP
Get that homosexual ass gay homosexual HALO and other slow FPS games out of here and suck a fat wiener while i FLEEP FLOOP ZEEMBAZOOMBA the motherfricking demons while heavy metal music is blasting.
if nudooms are so good why does ultrakill effortlessly mog it at it's own game?
>ultrakill
lol
yes ultrakill, or do you only consume AAA slop?
ultrakill is trash anon, get some frickin' taste before you try to discuss games ok thanks.
U mad
Because it doesn't, that game has maps the size of a backyard, looks like a bad half life mod and controls like shit.
Lame, it was New Order that started the revival years prior.
new order was lame, barely any action in it.
the music was ok though.
It's funny how New Order, which isn't all that different from a modern military styled shooter in the grand scheme of things, it just lets you run and gun and hipfire freely was still viewed as a complete revolution because shooters were so fricking bad at the time. And then Doom 2016 was so much more resonant with slow shooter fatigue with its pure combat focus and "get out of the way and let me kill demons" narrative that everyone forgot new order existed.
i care about videogames stories
they can be entertaining
I like story based games but I failed to find any reason to give a shit about what's going on in 2016 & Eternal, especially the latter. It expects me to read all their fricking shit to connect the dots, and I don't feel emotionally involved with anyone, they're either immortal or close to it.
>the Argent D'Nur did le thing on the Sentinel world before meeting le Demons and the Khan Maykr did le thing while the Hell Priests did le other thing
75% of the lore texts is that