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Why do they use a fricking radioactive deformed fish as an avatar
Easy on the PC.
Cute.
Easy to recognize, good for a mascot.
AI can also get cucked, directly at the core.
It's that eceleb's gimmick to shit on disney.
>they
moron..
he's male
Singular they you fricking ESL moron.
>Singular they
moron...
Singular they is hundreds of years old you dumb fricker.
>hundreds of years old
lol
next youll be calling yourself "we" or some shit dumb b***h
lmao
Singular they has been used in english for millenium to refer to a person that the speaker does not know the gender of
Stop being a troony obsessor
We know the gender in this context
When I wrote that post, I did not personally know that the man in the video was indeed a male.
Do 'you' know books have been written on how 'you' is an inappropriate pronoun? Of course 'you' didn't as you can barely speak English.
>he's never heard of the royal we
[mcbane image here]
Context is important
Let me help you with your understanding of the english language my good man: When you aren't sure of someone's gender, you can use the word "they" as an ungendered singular pronoun to refer to them.
>you can use the word "they" as an ungendered singular pronoun to refer to them.
How old are you? I've been speaking english my entire life and using "they" in this way didn't start until the mid-late 2010's. Before that, we ALWAYS would say "he" or "he/she."
I also remember countless debates on what should be said, an unknown "he" or something else, but never "they" because it was plural and sounds moronic. If it was such common language then those debates wouldn't have existed.
Ace Attorney used singular "they" all the way back in 2009. There's examples in books dating centuries ago that used it that way too.
It wasn't truly common in everyday language, but it wasn't exactly wrong to use.
Your wrong, they has always been fine to use and didn't exclusively refer to people inbetween genders.
based
Can't wait for the AI replacement
I keep seeing this, what makes you guys think that they won't have the AI say wokeshit as well?
especially considering how the developers lock and key it and then lobotomize it
What's important isn't so much that the quality of the work will improve, it's that the people currently ruining it will be on the streets begging for my pocket change (I will refuse to give it to them.)
The people ruining it will just become a different set of people. The new "people ruining it" will be the devs in charge of training the AI to be woke.
This is exactly what will happen once it gains any kind of traction whatsoever (see DALL-E).
nevar 4get tay
That's the point you moron, any kind of competent AI HAVE to be free range, and free range AI always turn deeply antisemitic, racist and mysoginist.
Lobotomised AIs are useless dogshit.
still worth it if these worthless sub humans are out of jobs
Because you'll be able to do it yourself.
You could learn the Japanese instead, I mean if you're an otaku and consume tons of Japanese media, it's a must.
Anon, who is "they?"
What makes you think these AI will be controlled by Americans or even English natives at all?
this
>japan makes game
>japan uses ai to translate game to english
>saves time and money
>i buy game
>california loses and drifts out to sea
don't care as long as it makes the troons who get such perverse joy out of purposely fricking up translations homeless
Not that I particularly play a ton of new games where this is increasingly a problem, but the real solution in my eyes has always been/will be just learning the native language if you are that concerned about translations.
It has been confirmed through our own BingAI threads that AI can be manipulated to do certain things as people were reporting that the image creation AI would randomly insert women of color into prompts that were 100% not calling for it, not even subtle keywords either like "welfare" or "single mother".
This
Translation can never fully convey the original message.
t. trilingual raised monolingual
theres a whole beautiful world out there anons
>subtle keywords either like "welfare" or "single mother"
kek
Real talk, how the frick do you expect people with full time jobs to commit to learning an entirely new language with cryptic as frick alphabets that have multiple forms for whatever reason and no latin roots or similarity whatsoever just to be able to enjoy their hobbies the way it was made.
English is the easiest language there is yet 90% of people in europe cannot speak it, anything Asian is 10x times worse
Weekends and nights for many months or years, spend the time not funding and playing localizations for this basically.
Then I guess you should just keep whining about a problem that's here to stay. Maybe you should stop consuming Japanese media altogether? Since you will never be able to get the full, non-censored product anyway.
>whiner whining about whiners
If you have time for Vidya you have time to study
Wish I had time for vidya
>English is the easiest language there is
Least intelligent poster award 2024
English is litteraly the easiest language in the world to learn, no wonder that's where you get the most amount of morons
Then why are Japs so bad at it?
NTA but it's objectively not, it's only "easy" because of the huge amount of media and international communications dominance the language has, and ESLs still regularly frick it up to the point where that's become an insult. English is a relatively easy language to learn how to communicate basic ideas in, when it comes to proper grammar it's full of weird niche rules and exceptions. I think most other Germanic Languages are frankly easier to learn than English, just just have frickall media presence comparatively.
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo
The usage of the word Frick, and it's many interpretations
If you don't know what verb to use just use "get" and it'll probably work out.
Easiest language ever.
>bothering with actual esoteric bullshit
mother fricker people cant get "on the parking lot" vs "in the parking lot" right.
I thought it was "at the parking lot"
thats valid in some use cases.
AHHHHHHH HELP ME ENGLISH TEACHER. For all the foreigners here who know fluent English, you're already smarter than world renowned or highly educated people who can't speak it for shit.
One time I read excerpts from a journal kept by a poor farmer in 1800s Kentucky. He was teaching himself Hebrew and Greek and made notes about his progress in each language. I'm pretty sure you're not doing actual work like an 1800s farmer but even if you were you apparently have no excuse. You're just a b***h making excuses.
What you and others fail to understand...YOU can download the programs yourself and make your own images with no filters. This will be the same for translators for video games/movies.
Alright, any advice on where to start learning Japanese?
Duolingo.
Not duolingo
I didn't study japanese in uni (opted for russian instead), but they all used a book series called Genki which is apparently really good. I would get those and then find some high quality youtube channels to teach you basic kana/kanji, as well as grammar and your first 300-500 vocabulary words.
After that you can slowly start pivoting to the input method (google it)
also buy lots of flashcards
Alright, thanks. Hope it doesn't take many years, but what the hell, with all this stuff going on why not just learn the language and consoom nipcontent properly.
>Hope it doesn't take many years
It will
It is quite literally a lifelong process.
My advice if you want to stick with it: make it a part of your personality. Everyone should know you as "that guy that studies japanese". You are now a japanese learner at your core. It will make quitting much more difficult.
Reminder lolcowlizers already confessed to not knowing japanese.
I have heard this before, and what they mean is they can't hold a conversation. Their comprehension is fine, just not their litteral ability to speak
Bro, japanese is super simple fonetically speaking, the difficulty is on reading/writing. This makes no sense whatsoever
What they actually mean is that they REALLY don't know japanese and use google translate
>Jamie Marchi is involved in this mess
She just can't keep her name out of some anime/game controversy.
Its the only relevance they have left.
I hear she's been on a damage control meltdown during this and even tried to bring GamerGate into it. lol
Yeah but tcommies keep invading my hoobies, its good to remove tumors like localizers even if you can read the works in the native language
I can tell you right now that this is an unwinnable fight and at least if you learn Japanese you have the upper hand. Wait until you find out that anime is already normalgay tier at this point.
The people complaining are lazy EOPs who deserve this happening to them.
I will continue to discourage them from learning Japanese in order to gatekeep them.
some of us are old. You can't learn a new language (or any major skills) after the age of 27
sure you can, I'm 31 and learning Jap
And you will never make it
>can't learn a new language (or any major skills) after the age of 27
dummy
Stop discouraging people you frickface. I'm almost 30 and got into programming 2 years ago.
>getting into a field that is 100% getting replaced by AI in less than 5 years
lmao
Frick off with your israelite-owned toys, shitskin rajeesh.
oh the ironing
>has nothing to say
I accept your concession.
DO NOT REDEEM
>hurr you can never move up and get additional certificates
go back to /LULZ/ and wallow in mysery
Your brain doesn't turn into a fricking brick after it's done developing, you can still use it for its intended use (storing memories, creating links, recalling information) in the same way that once your legs stop developing you can still use them for running.
The brain doesn't stop developing at 25, that's a fricking meme. Plasticity does go down, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to learn new skills, all it means is you need more time to do so.
I remember someone posting a 57? year old american man learning jap on twitch, he was studying for level 2.
The most senile slow ass stream i've ever seen in my life and the guy is already on level 3 lmao.
That’s moronic anon. You can absolutely learn new skills beyond 30. I read the most batshit insane growing old copes here. More likely you were never terribly capable and it’s all too convenient to pin it on age now.
You can if you're not a moron who let your brain rot for 30 years. If you work with creative stuff, you're also giving your brain a workout that keeps it capable.
a few of them will, but for the most part the people running these outfits don't care about politics, they care about making more money than they spend. the idiots that "localize" this kind of stuff work for pennies on the dollar because they can't get any other kind of job.
AI translations will be woke too. They could program the AI to replace romance lines with something else, if they deem a love story between 17yo's unfit for the American sensibilities.
Just fricking learn JP, anons. They will continue to butcher our games no matter what. Even if the TL isn't israeliteed, they will keep removing boob jiggle and keep censoring revealing outfits.
>They could program the AI to replace romance lines with something else,
that's not how it works
>They could program the AI
Who the frick is "they?"
>QUI?
Western publishers.
Anon, are you moronic?
Western publishers aren't going to be taking the raws and feeding them to an AI for translation, no fricking company is going to hire Americans to do that when they can get the employees they already employ to do it, or hire some cheap SEAs or Chinamen.
>it was properly translated, cope
>ok it wasn’t but the changes weren’t that big
>it's IMPOSSIBLE to translate japanese without localization
>the cultural differences would have made the original text inappropriate
>the new version is better
>the original sucks and was "dry" anyways
>ok it wasn’t but i improved it though
>the fans prefer my version so get fricked
>AI will never get to the point of translating accurately
>companies will never replace me with AI because i'm cheaper
>AI will be woke too
YOU ARE HERE
>ok but in due time the AI models will become pozzled
>ok but muttland will threaten japan or something to give me my job back
Or simply Japan will get pozzed eventually, it's already starting to happen.
that's a color wheel you fricking schizo
>Akatsuki is a multimedia company headquartered in Kamioaki, Shinagawa, Tokyo, Japan.
Founded: June 2010
Kadokawa and The Pokémon Company pledged their alliance to Blackrock and ESG two years ago. Next thing you know bikini are censored on Japanese games, ecchi is tame, nobody is publishing certain genres anymore and Pokémon games feature lesbians and genderless characters that can wear whatever clothes they want.
I made threads about this on Ganker and Ganker when it happened and the homosexuals of those boards began to screech about muh pol and jannies deleted all my threads, but it's been coming for a while now.
>Muh Political Radicalization threads need to be allowed!!
>homosexuals of those boards began to screech about muh pol and jannies deleted all my threads
Good.
did you get tired of getting BTFO on your switch censorship misinfo threads?
ching chong asiatic
stop eating dogs and shitting up japanese game threads
Maybe if you read my whole post, you'd realize I didn't make excuses for troonylators.
>removing boob jiggle and keep censoring revealing outfits
this is good for me
Want porn?, watch porn instead
What if I don’t want to watch porn?
You'd have to wrangle the AI a bunch, AIs literally can't tell context and will translate it as literally as possible, you can't just do "If word "white" replace with "black" because then the AI will start shitting up everything.
And the point of AI is faster and more accurate translations, they aren't gonna let someone comb through the script when the point is cutting the middleman.
>t-they'll feed it a twitter thread
The AI is japanese owned, they are feeding it law books and english teaching books cause this is a side effect of the AI being built around teaching english.
>And the point of AI is faster and more accurate translations, they aren't gonna let someone comb through the script when the point is cutting the middleman.
It's still miles faster than completely manual TL.
ML-assisted MTL + editing pass is already widely used in the industry.
everyone (not moronic) can train and run locally own ai models
forgot pic
Machine translators aren't creative, they won't randomly replace lines with gender theory or Marxist propaganda.
And even if they were, at least some troon isn't getting paid to do the same.
Thats the thing, they will no be out of jobs instead they will feed the woke shit to the AI instead has "consultants" a la israelitebaby
JPs are already training their own AIs specifically to avoid western influence.
One of the company guys was even cited saying that it would be dystopian if AI bias were limited to the views of Silicon Valley people.
>the AI instead has "consultants"
You guys don't seem to understand how this works.
Let me dumb it down for you.
Americans and Euros are EXPENSIVE to hire.
Therefore, if given the option not to hire them, companies will do so.
There already exist Japanese, Chinese, and SEA AI companies, if a Japanese company is going to make use of AI, they're not going to use one operated by expensive Americans that they have to pay more, they're going to use either the Japanese one they created or the cheap Chinese/SEA one.
>Americans and Euros are EXPENSIVE to hire
I wish it was true so they'd pay me more
It is true, just because you get paid shit doesn't mean you're not still more expensive than a SEA or Chinaman.
Japs aren't as expensive for Jap companies themselves.
Not that it matters since the SEAs will almost assuredly have better English skills than the Japs anyways.
Japs are expensive too, so you'll have to settle down with SEAmonkeys.
Sega of Europe was the whole reason that Yakuza and Judgment ever got ported to PC and had a resurgeance based on the ports' popularity.
Good for them?
I'm just saying that sometimes you need the other sides of the company to drag the fax machine using Japanese side into the modern era.
Not anymore, at this point Americans and Euros are more of a liability than anything else, so it's best if they're as far away from Asian game dev and entertainment as is humanly possible.
the nostalgia from jp companies somehow made them immune to pozzled homosexualry
whatever cognitohazard westoids are spreading through pisscord and twitter is fricking irrelevant to 80yr old gigachads still giving them the middle finger using a literal fax machine
>old crusty boomers
>caring about anything but money
You weebtrannies are really delusional. Enjoy your mass immigration.
>still more israelite propaganda
cry more goylem, your fricking tears are delicious
you fricking lost
>REEEEE EVERYTHING I DISAGREE WITH IS A HECKIN PROPAGANDA, also israeli teehee~
You /misc/trannies don't even know what you're talking about anymore.
something westoids are in denial about is japan changing laws to make it more expensive to hire gaijins over japanese people
it will be exponentially cheaper to hire hundreds of japanese zoomer interns that know some english from high school than it will be to hire a single westoid
Why wouldn't they want more westerners in their dying, aging country? Seems like a suicide mission to me.
>SEA AI companies
Aren't Granblue and FGO translated by SEA translators? because those games both have pretty bad translations too, so if that's the future we're headed towards it's not much better than the present.
>because those games both have pretty bad translations too, so if that's the future we're headed towards it's not much better than the present.
Good for me
>Aren't Granblue and FGO translated by SEA translators?
Granblue was translated by mutts.
IIRC Blue Archive recently moved to SEA translators who ended up fixing some of the moronic shit the original mutt translators put in.
>IIRC Blue Archive recently moved to SEA translators who ended up fixing some of the moronic shit the original mutt translators put in.
you now remember that fricking moron killed himself with a water enhancer
>not much better
id literally rather have battle rangers tier shit than
>uwu the heckin patwiarwchy wont wewt chawotte fite da bossu ;-; ;-; ;-;
That'd make sense if there wasn't a deliberate, concerted effort by certain groups of ostensible "people" to USify Japan and overwrite its culture. But there is, so you're wrong.
>No, you don't understand, the israelites exist, so you're wrong
Literally every single atrocities in History have a israelite or a group of israelites behind it somehow.
Yes.
Whites bending over for israelite dick is so pathetic.
>We just can't do anything guys, t-the israelites, t-they're too powerful! We have to let them destroy us!
I don't recall saying that, schlomo.
Follow the reply chain, moron.
follow your own advice
the goylems are programmed to never disobey their masters
Mantra, the company that's currently getting contracts for AI translation, is a japanese startup run by japs although they do have a few foreigners on the team
AI always drops the woke shit eventually
All AI literally becomes Hitler until it gets ~~*lobotomized*~~. Remember Tay?
Because the AI will be run locally on your machine, translating in real time.
If its done by nippon software developpers they wont make it woke
More people are looking into it so... Looks like bad PR to me, I don't know if the investors will start thinking the same
>new cope just dropped
picrel is my captcha btw
If they were okay with shitty garbage translation then what is currently happening wouldn't be a problem for them at all and there would be no need to use anything else
They are OK with
They are even more OK with them if they don't pay for it
A simple fact.
If westoids didn't feel threatened by AI replacing their political propaganda with accurate translations, they wouldn't be fearmongering at all.
Simple as.
The fact you are is proof AI is delivering accurate translations and westoids have no control over it.
I mean, we've already seen an example of AI translation and it's near-identical to the fan TL (which, let's be honest, is probably also MTL anyways) so we already know that these people can be replaced and the average reader won't give a single frick.
is MTL left or right? guessing right because it has less flowery medieval sounding text which I would guess is more "inferred" in Japanese and is hard for the AI to parse
>we already know that these people can be replaced and the average reader won't give a single frick.
LNgays and VNgays have known for years translators just use MTL instead of knowing japanese, they are happy to say it outright too.
Hopefully in-house models will be on the forefront
Probably, local models are getting pretty great these days. Wouldn't be surprised if Stuido's start training their own stuff.
This.
The real problem is Blackrock ESG, everything else is just bullshit window dressing that enables it.
You horribly overestimate how much soft power America still has in the world, anon.
Your empire is collapsing in front of your face and you're still in denial about it.
Even the ESG is already on its deathbed.
Japan is still an American Proxy State. It doesn't matter how much or less soft-power modern USA has. Call me back when Japan can form its own military.
>have soldiers
>tanks
>ships
>jets
>bombs
>make weapons
>make ammunition
HOL UP
DIS NO ARMY, DIS "SELF-DEFENSE FORCE"
It is when your neighbor is Best Korea.
Pilpuling filth.
Shh anon let zoomer npcs think AI will solve all their problems
The process to review the scripts can be handled in-house and any discrepancies that are made when handing it off to other countries for localization can more easily be detected when comparing the AI-translated scripts to the ones the localizers produce. It means that Localizers can't just do whatever the hell they please, such as blanking 4 whole pages of dialogue for a joke.
It's a possibility. People keep believing that AI is the savior of all problems when it can turn into a monkey paw moment. we've seen an example in 2016 with TayTweets. It's been locked by Microsoft ever since.
You guys have not been on sadpanda. There seems to be a universal hatred for mtl there.
Who cares about the opinions of people who don't even pay for the porn they consume?
I struggle to think of anything more pathetic than someone who pays for porn.
The MTL over there is literally google translate done by people who don't know English or Japanese. The passable MTLs aren't tagged as such and no one notices.
As it should because it shouldn't be the end all be all like AI but people do not care as long as it's in English.
These threads are seriously bad to my heart, i tell you what
It's fricking fiction why does he care so much.
They can't tell the difference between what is real and what is make believe.
That is something that children as young as 6 can do. They are literally stupider than a fricking toddler while being at an adult age in years.
Isn't FE Engage made for kids? It's not like it's Fates which was made and rated for late teenagers and young adults in Japan.
westies can't separate fiction from reality like your normal japanese person can.
In that case I think it's more that the localizers (whose job is basically translating AND marketing games) somehow failed to understand who's the intended audience because they think it's weird Anna could be a potential love interest while the game is meant to be played by 10yo Japanese kids, even if Engage is an anniversary game.
>absolutely hate and despise the culture and people where the game comes from
>still support and participate on its community
I still don't understand this mentall illness
It's not a mental illness, these people are simply ultra pathetic losers, they hang out with weebs because they don't belong anywhere else and weebs won't outright kick them out until they start making waves, it's the same with vidya, they don't like vidya but if they try with something more social like football, the football fans will chew them out.
What will happen to these people if the troonylators lose their jobs?
What is her fricking problem? It's a video game- it's not real life. What the frick? Are these people so terminally online that they can't differentiate from reality and fiction anymore?
westoid goylems are incapable of differentiating fiction from real life as you can see
the irony is they are the ones that end up as the actual pedos every time lmao https://archive.md/U23XK
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/https%3A%2F%2Farchive.md%2FU23XK/
Lmao
>her
>Translates something incorrectly on purpose
>Calls anyone who doesn't agree with her doing that freaks and demands they shut up
>Gets kicked and goes on twitter to call them scum
There is seething behind that "Lol".
this is a man
I know I am, what's your point?
Oh nevermind, I get it. The female profile picture confused me.
>her
What is this shit you are spamming in every thread you mentally ill schizo?
>these are the people in charge of your localizations, if not then it’s mods or everyone in the fanbase is already like this
sad
>turns out I was right btw
About what?
>join server
>start shit about stupid shit (in this case anna)
>get rightfully banned
>join other server
>lie and say they were all Xphobes (in this case pedophiles) and that you were always right
>those people will ban anyone from the former server who tries to say the truth
This is a common tactic by far left zoomers
>This is a common tactic by far left zoomers
why are they so fricking pathetic? It's starting to piss me off.
Because the highschool social strata no longer ends at highschool. It extends into the workplace and government positions now.
>Because the highschool social strata no longer ends at highschool. It extends into the workplace and government positions now.
And I hate it in a way you wouldn't believe
>growing up believing that people will be more mature and grow out of the high school mindset
>they don't
>in fact, modern adults act more childish by each passing day and their behavior is rewarded by the ~~*establishment*~~
i want off the wild ride
Now someone else react with their face in front
*ahem*
is it now safe to say tranime?
not all anime is for trannies
but ALL trannies love anime
Now what race are most of those trannies?
>suddenly brings up race
oy vey rabbi stay out
Answer the question anon.
Jamal the weeby homie sure as shit ain't getting turned into a troony by watching anime, so who is?
LOL
amazing reading comprehension you have moron
go back and read again and again until you get it, maybe loosen your helmet a bit?
Answer the question.
suck my dick.
go be a filthy israelite somewhere else rubenstein
I accept your concession, stop trying to blame anime for your own community's self-hatred and AGP.
>your own community
I'm not white goldberg
have a nice day Black person
I'm surprised you keep replying, you won't get paid for these posts
>I'm not white
Ewwwwwwwwww
>Jamal the weeby homie sure as shit ain't getting turned into a troony by watching anime
Jarvis, show me the LGBT stats by race.
Uhm actually nogs are more likely to be mentally ill homosexuals on average.
lmao just take one look at the fighting game scene and you'll find dozens of them for each game.
The ones who haven't trooned out physically yet show all the telltale signs of mentally ill troons.
>lmao just take one look at the fighting game scene and you'll find dozens of them for each game.
I don't think I've seen a single black troony in any of the FGC stuff.
Only a few homosexuals, and the biggest black homosexual of all is a big Mortal Kombat fan.
Hilariously enough though, I have seen some black e-girlcons in the FGC.
they're probably talking about the granblue players
Which ones?
the black trans ones
Who are?
>I haven't seen
Then you haven't looked very hard.
Then enlighten me.
not quoted but I saw a pic of not one but two extremely homosexual black trannies with fight sticks on here just like a day ago
like they looked like prostitutes
dunno what game they were playing
So can you link to it or is "I saw" all you can offer?
What happened to "you'll find dozens of them for each game?"
>He goes out of his way to look for troonys and save screencaps
Yeah
it's hard living a white kid in the New Jersey suburbs, nothing to do but be a loser online
It is kind of funny how much blacks and black-worshippers seethe when met with reality.
I went and found it after you whined that it wasn't the case.
Keep on moving that goalpost though. Anyone with any interaction with the FGC knows it's black and gay as frick.
NTA, I just called you obsessed with fricking shemales. But unlike Ganker, they play fighting games
>FGC blacks aren't gay troons at all
>lmao which planet are you from
>PROOOOVE IT
>pic.jpg.bmp.exe
>SO WHAT YOU'RE WHITE
lmao
No, you stupid homosexual, I said you're obsessed with looking for shit to get mad at.
>>FGC blacks aren't gay troons at all
Anon, the original post was about anime, not FGC.
>demand evidence
>when evidence is delivered try to make the act of delivering evidence a losing position
I bet you got beat up a lot on the playground.
>Dude, go out of your way to look for shemales!!
Dont look at Granblue finals lmfao
>oy vey rabbi stay out
uhhh....... i don't know who's israeliteing who anymore
Blacks
same for food, water and air
and games for that matter
yes yes well said, HOWEVER women and Black folk also share those things, you're not a sheboon are you mister pseud?
right, just cause someone else like something you like doesn't mean you become them or that thing is for them specifically
please formulate your posts better
but yes that's exactly what I mean, but what card are you gonna pull next, correlation doesn't equal causation?
what's next, it's a weird coincidence that truck drivers (people who spend a disproportionate amount of time on the road) cause the most accidents? no it's connected to one another no matter how much you deny it
>black people like watermelons, therefore watermelons are for black people and you should avoid it (btw I don't like watermelon)
that's all you're doing bro
>therefore watermelons are for black people
I'm not saying that. with how disingenuous you are I am willing to believe you are just a butthurt troony
besides honeydew is better
>just an ad hominem post
alright are you done or what hahaha?
>ad hominem
you are not arguing in good faith, why should I moron? go ahead and cry about it some more
point out where I said anime is for trannies per your comparison
restate your argument
You're just outting yourself as tourist, so go for it if you want everyone to know that you're a moronic newbie.
>but ALL trannies love anime
All trannies love video games too
>tourist
said the tourist, as he tries his best to fit in
>video games too
yeah and have you seen the current state of vidya? I'll give you that but it's way worse with anime. besides, I imagine not all troons love video games, there are specific games they like but not in general
Black person
happy now mr Ganker?
fricking hell you morons call me out and your complete lack of self-awareness is astounding.
>yeah and have you seen the current state of vidya?
Yeah and have you seen the current state of anime in Japan? Right it has nothing to do with moronic american trannies.
>current state of anime in Japan
no I don't follow anime, it's all isekai or some shit as far as I know
my first post should clarify my stance enough. even if it is wrong there is an odd amount of interest from trannies in anime
the one who randomly decided to bring up race is obviously the israelite
well, you're obsessed with this trans shit is all
factually there's many more normal people interested in anime and they are probably the bulk of avatars and anime profiles, yet you're just looking at a niche group and coming to irrational conclusions you can't even back lol
you clearly did not understand my opening post at all
>more normal people interested in anime
I'm not denying that
>irrational conclusions you can't even back
please show me all the factual evidence you have for your statement about normal people. you surely can back up what you say don't you
what statement?
that there's more normal people than trans?
cutting up sentences and responding to them individually is a sign you're out of gas to argue
want a rest?
>what statement?
>factually there's many more normal people interested in anime and they are probably the bulk of avatars and anime profiles
good luck coming up with factual proof for that claim
google says trans are like 0.1-0.6% of the population worldwide (48mil)
google says 3bil (but let's go with netflix 200mil) people watch anime
my educated guess tells me more normal people engages with stuff that involves anime
alright you win, making such a statement even I knew it was going to be true, it would be weird if it wasn't
>Black person
>happy now mr Ganker?
Hello election tourist. From which subreddit are you from?
you type like a redditor
If you don't like anime, you don't belong here. As shrimple as that.
Tranies love all kinds of things like
>obscure games
>Anime
>geek stuff
>anything autistic
It's really tiring to pretend to stop liking things just because failed men who pun on a granny dress and chop off thei member to thend end their life at almost 30 like it as well.
literal leftist logic
>nazi chuds like this, so everyone that likes it is a heckin nazi chud!!!
This site hasn't been "anime" for 15 years and you should viciously mock any homosexual saying otherwise.
Cope and die you fricking sharty homosexual.
It's a political activism site. You gain nothing by angrily denying reality. And your kind is what turned it into that.
You also created sharty
Remember Ganker, this garbage is what you let this site become. People who don't care about videogames, who don't care about anime, who don't care about otaku culture or idols or 2hu. They see you all as pawns in their forever culture war. They want your degeneracy dead, whether right or left.
I'm just stating facts. I hate the political shithole this site has become but denying what it is is just pathetic. You made your fricking bed.
Now lie in it. Imagine trying to argue this shit in a highly highly political thread lmao.
You are not educating anyone. You are spouting propaganda for your "side". You are a cultist, a zealot.
>Imagine trying to argue this shit in a highly highly political thread
...About a general sense of disdain towards people politicizing Japanese media.
so...a political thread
Totally not a politics site bro. Also ignore the politics board and sub-politics boards having the vast majority of the userbase. 🙂
anime website thoughbeit
Weird how almost all the discussion on the site and this thread is politics, and not anime.
Do you think Nintendo is a primarily hanafuda card company in 2024 because it was in the 1800's?
There is literally a confirmed /misc/tard head mod who doesn't delete this shit because he wants the entire site to be /misc/, treated /misc/ with kid gloves, paid an actual salary because he deals with paperwork asiaticmoot is too lazy to
Rapeape is the guy. He runs and owns the site and actively fired most of the mods who dared to do anything about /misc/. Hiro is a shitty figurehead. Rapeape is the Grima Wormtongue.
>literal hysterical femoid melty
kek
how do femoids keep proving time and time again giving them rights was a mistake?
If the head mod is a /misc/gay why has he allowed /misc/ to be ravaged by blatant bots and shitposters for years?
cry more israelite, you lost the cultural war you started
This post doesn't even make any sense so I actually cannot engage with it. It's almost AI tier.
>THIS SITE BEING ANIME IS A RIGHT WING THING
Fricking what?
What a lame way to get (you)s
Stating facts will often get you a lot of (You)'s when they are uncomfortable ones.
Let's compare the amount of times israelite has been used this thread and compare it to....any anime term. Anime site, right? Anime terms should be more common.
Guess this has been a troony site since 2019
>2015
FTFY. the day /lgbt/ was added.
No i mean 2019, when use of "troony" tripled
That literally just further proves political site
You just stated it got MORE political in 2019, moron. Thanks for proving the point for me.
If it is a political site, why does it only talk about trannies? Look, we're even talking about trannies and always were.
Because screaming about trannies is political, moron. The politics site discusses trannies because it's politics and thus a politics site would discuss politics (trannies)
to state trannies are not political and troony is not a political topic is objectively false considering how much pro and anti-trans law exists in modern life and how many politicians run off it
So you're agreeing an anime site discussing the politics within anime translations is an anime site.
You will never belong here, tourist.
now show the same for ''anime website'' and ''tourist''
moron
>now show the same for things related to the site's origins and history
ok?
ah you love sucking the troony mods dick have fun and you will never be a real janny
you're a 3rd world sharteen who can't stop coming back to the tranime site
I'm not a shartard, keep it up moron
too late. besides only women use ''have sex'' as an insult. but then again you will never be a woman
you will never get laid
I got a handjob once tho
Your schizophrenia doesn't count.
Aaron said it counts
I accept your concession.
chigyu thread
Why is Asmongold talking to a troon?
None of this would be happening if they just stopped hiring trannies and women in the workplace. What the FRICK is wrong with corpos? Why are they so fricking stupid?
Also I don't buy the "AI translation" meme. It's just MTL and you'll still need someone to quality check the output. I don't think it will replace people right away.
>and you'll still need someone to quality check the output.
And you can just train an AI for that.
Are you moronic?
Are you?
Yes he is.
They themselves say that there'll be human editors.
It absolutely will replace people right away because it means there will be fewer people to pay.
>stop hiring women
>50% of your work force
you know anon, there are places where women arent allowed to work, and they are all shitty 3rd world countries for a reason. there are more men doing these shitty things than there will ever be women, after all men are trannies and you can assume any man is a troony uintil proven otherwise since they all seem to troon out later in life sooner or later.
female hands typed this post LMAO
women are the Black folk of gender
troon hands typed this post. whats wrong, hit a little too close to home? did you pop a little boner when you stole your mothers panties and lingerie? fricking disgusting moids.
LMAO called it
get back in the kitchen
sorry anon you must be atleast this big for me to care about your opinion
Typing like a woman doesn't change the fact that every cell in your body has male DNA and your tombstone will have your birthname displayed in stone forever.
go project your seething troon self loathing onto someone else moid
holy shit you got her good
and it resorts to the only value it known and has, sex. have a nice day and do the whole world a favor
dawwww look at how upset you are at being mocked for being a milimeter peter. it really does hit close to home huh. im sure you are just a grower big guy
This is just sad
the fact that it got him to stop posting means i was right about it though 😉
there's a reason why westoid industries keep collapsing
hint: it's because they keep hiring femoids instead of anyone actually qualified
>it's because they keep hiring femoids
So, like Japan?
there is nothing wrong with females, their brains are being poisoned, they are all victims
you should direct your rage towards the system that enables this poisoning instead of directing your hate to girls, that's exactly what they want you to do
>3rd world countries are shitholes because they're not allowed to hire women
lmao
Damn, white women believe some stupid shit these days, huh?
tell you what anon go live in a country where women arent allowed to work and you tell me how great it is to live there 😉
There is no reason for women to work. All of these shitty HR jobs amount to nothing more than women's daycare. Even in third world shitholes that are impoverished and have worthless currency, families can still support themselves with a single bread winner.
>they are all shitty 3rd world countries for a reason
corrupt politicians banning rights to own firearms so the people can't remove them by force
cuz you do know that 3rd world countrys hire from 80 to 90 or almost 100% of they women and even 50% of they childs male&female because of POOVERTY not 50% of the workforce for some shitty agenda, fricking c**t im glad b***hes like you will never have children cuz you're working away your fertility
won't happen because of government diversity tax breaks and grants. The gov basically pays corps to be diverse
I used ChatGPT on my recent trip to Japan and it was absolutely amazing. Leagues better than Google Translate or DeepL or anything like it.
It makes sense though, it's an LLM so obviously it would be good at this
Because then the CEOs go to jail or get fined into the poor house.
I'm a woman and even I think the translations are dogshit and and these people need to go.
It's mostly just particularly politically-clouded, mentally-ill trannies responsible for most of this crap anyway.
My biggest concern comes from companies like BlackRock utilizing the AI or their infinite ESG money bribery to pressure Japanese companies into accepting intentionally controversial woke garbage. Peach's sudden and recent drastic character changes in the Super Mario Bros movie, as well as the recent boxart controversy in her upcoming game are particularly noteworthy examples. I feel this'll be the next big worrying "trend" that plagues Japanese games and media.
>I'm a woman
Post breasts
I feel like the creators are also partly to blame for not overseeing the localization as well. Alot of this stuff would be caught if they gave it a passover. I remember that manga where the localizers made the main character trans for no reason, and after fans contacted the creator he had the publisher fix it and reprint the issue.
>localization/translation thread
>40,321 views 23 hours ago
for comparison the asmongold video has 717k views in a week
shit's gonna be a big shitstorm with no signs of stopping
grab the popcorn boys
Reminder that Asmongold's viewers are moronic children.
tldw, how are they being replaced with ai?
AI translation is basically google translate but better at this point.
Not really "Good" yet, but still better than the supposed human translations, while being much cheaper, so it's an easy switch.
what program is that?
Probably some proprietary shit with no name. It's not public yet, anyhow.
ok thanks
Imagine if you hired someone to translate a legal document or some really important instructions of an industrial machine and the dude was like
"Yeah nah this is impossible to translate 1:1, i'm gonna have to localize it dude, you were never going to get the uncensored version anyways"
They always say this shit, but why is it only true for video games? Why can movies be translated correctly. Novels can be translated correctly. But video games? Sorry M8 it literally HAS to have memes and gender politics or it's impossible.
We all know the answer, video game companies cheap the frick out and always have and that lead to literal incompetent trannies running the show. But now that there's real money in the west maybe they'll take note and do something about it.
Personally I'm pessimistic. The Twitter crowd will always be louder and so, financially, appeasing them will always appear to be the better route even if it isn't.
>Why can movies be translated correctly. Novels can be translated correctly
Often times, they aren't. Murakami's Wind up Bird Chronicle was horribly butchered in its translation due to meddling from the publisher. E-J translations of Hollywood movies are often terrible as well. There's this one prominent subtitler, Natsuki Toda, who is notorious among Japanese movie fans for mistranslating shit constantly. Her subs for the first Lord of the Rings movie completely rewrote the characters to the extent that the fans had to send a petition directly to Peter Jackson.
how nice, the year hasn't even started properly yet and trannies are getting BTFO everywhere
Don't forget the israelites and slavs
>um japanese is subtle and context changes this noun to something that has 3 translations based on the phase of the moon so that's why I had to translate this line as "swag gamergate trans rights POGCHAMP"
Why is it always jarpigs and VNtrash? Do they really have 0 quality control?
>Why is it always jarpigs and VNtrash? Do they really have 0 quality control?
Because they don't have sales margins to pay for real translators so they hire terminally online self-taught weebs and SEA monkeys. Especially when it comes to VNs and low budget JRPGs who think having 2 MBs of text in the game is really good.
They're keeping the spirit of working designs alive.
Try saying this line out loud without running out of breath.
time after time you think AI or blockchain or NFTs or crypto will save you from the woke menace and time and time again you idiots are proven wrong. the internet died when people were given access to it on their phones and there's no putting that genie back in the bottle.
The internet died the day we allowed third worlders to the internet. Ganker should've been a place like 2ch, that only allowed specific countries to post and discuss.
This is eventually going to blow up to gamergate levels and fuel anti-trans backlash in all walks of life in the US.
>We will shoot ourselves in the foot on a national level by making it all about what they want it to be about
Some of the comments are gold.
>明らかに本来の内容と大きく逸脱した翻訳をした場合には作品の価値を毀損したとして訴えることはできないんですかね?日本の素晴らしいアニメ作品が活動家の主張のために利用されるのは本当に腹がたちます。
>If a translation clearly deviates greatly from the original content, can't you sue for damaging the value of the work? It really upsets me when great Japanese animation works are used to support activists' claims.
> クソローカライザーは、原作者やアニメ制作社から、すべからく訴えられたらいいのに。
>I hope all the fricking localisers get sued by the original creators and the animation production companies.
>翻訳家を装う活動家を罰することはできないものか。 というより、こんな奴らいるからAIにしようというのも仕方ないと思う。
>Can't we punish activists who pose as translators? Rather, I think it is inevitable that we should try to use AI because of these people.
>国も国の外交で、翻訳者が国の意図に従わずに勝手な主張したら外交問題になる。 翻訳者はAIではないけど、雇用主や作品に忠実であることが求められるのよ。 イヤなんだったらその仕事を引き受けなければ良いのに、ねぇ。
>A country is also a country's diplomacy, and if a translator makes a selfish claim without following the country's intentions, it becomes a diplomatic issue. Translators are not AI, but they are expected to be faithful to their employer and their work. If they don't like it, they shouldn't take the job, you know?
>It really upsets me when great Japanese animation works are used to support activists' claims
lmao
But I like that this is how they are reacting. Through dick, unity.
>Rather, I think it is inevitable that we should try to use AI because of these people.
Just fire them morons holy shit
> It really upsets me when great Japanese animation works are used to support activists' claims.
My spirit animal
>このAI翻訳はすごく気になっていたので取り上げていただけて嬉しいです。カトリーナざまぁ、コヤツはだいぶ前から問題人物でした 真面目な翻訳家だけに仕事を回してほしい
>I was very interested in this AI translation, so I'm glad that you took it up. Katrina has been a problematic figure for a long time. I want only serious translators to do the work.
That's mistranslated.
>カトリーナざまぁ
The way he called her means "suck it up katrina" or "eat shit katrina".
Based elevens.
What's gold about them? Those are just generic opinions you've read hundreds time a day here. Is it because they're in japanese?
Yes anon, it is. Through the internet, peoples and humans from across the entire planet, and of different languages and cultures, feel the same about bull shit we see.
you may not comprehend this being a worthless stuck up spoiled zoomer, but this is sheer miracle and ingenuity of humans to see this in action.
This was the stuff of dreams and fiction just 40 years ago.
>akshually japan is woke and notbased
you must be getting desperate, troony
You will never be Japanese, shitskin turdie.
>troonyjutsu gaysen
>This was the stuff of dreams and fiction just 40 years ago.
What the frick are you on about, moron? Try to actually read some books.
>it's ok when Japan does it
Which industry or hobby do you think these people will try to ruin when they cant ruin japanese manga/anime/video games with shitty fake translations anymore?
>assmongler
pass
>40k views
nothingburger.
>明らかに本来の内容と大きく逸脱した翻訳をした場合には作品の価値を毀損したとして訴えることはできないんですかね?日本の素晴らしいアニメ作品が活動家の主張のために利用されるのは本当に腹がたちます。
holy frick
dood thats cuhrazay!
I miss fansub groups, there corporate homosexuals have no fricking passion for their job and put bare minimum effort into their projects.
This, I miss the karaoke for every OP/ED.
Also the superior typesetting.
I miss karaoke subs like you wouldn't believe
Buy an ad /vt/ranny
I hate localizers/commercial translators but I'm not sure if this new AI-human hybrid approach will help. A human is still involved and has control over the final output. I expect the simupub to reduce or eliminate shitty speedscans so that's always good.
It would be cool if we could cloud source translation somehow so fans can identify and fix shitty translations.
WoW bros, we won
I'm sure Nintendo of Japan know what their localizers are doing, dumb frick.
nintendo is the fricking poster child for being moronic uncaring idiots letting this shit happen right under their nose
>Tree House
I'm fairly confident they don't.
Nips don't get wokeism and American markets in general, so they defer to the judgments of theri local employees. As long as NoA manages to convince Japan that this is what Western markets want, they get to do whatever they want.
If fans told them that troonylations serve an ideological agenda and aren't actually what their consumer base wants, there's a snowball's chance in hell they will listen and look into it.
>If fans told them that troonylations serve an ideological agenda and aren't actually what their consumer base wants, there's a snowball's chance in hell they will listen and look into it.
which is what's starting right now
aren't you glad to be a part of history?
yeah well i'll be sure to write them when i'm done memorizing my first 200 kanji
Because of the tremendous language barriers, time zone differences and general indifference to things happening outside of Japan, wokesters are generally able to wreak havoc with very little resistance from the Japanese side.
Reminder all of this started because a troon pissed off a yakuza lord on twitter over the FE engage troonylation.
wanna buy that yakuza a sake
>TN: sake means sake
slightly less quick rundown?
>Years of "You can't do anything chud, we already won :)".
>Actual otaku learn japanese.
>They weaponize memes to make JP players spread the word through fanart of how much the westoid abridged parody changes the media.
>They go tell yakuza lords the filthy gaijin pigs soiled their waifus.
>Japanese universities go from facing heavy financial struggles to having infinite money for state of the art data centers and processing servers for AI tech within 3 months.
>Japan in-house speedruns cutting edge AI tech in less than a fricking year despite running off fax machines and windows XP.
>The legislations to replace westoids in translation jobs pass in LESS THAN 2 MONTHS with zero resistance despite having the slowest bureaucracy on the planet.
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20231205/k10014278421000.html
>AI to be used for English translation of laws and ordinances on a trial basis starting this month.
https://it.impress.co.jp/articles/-/25679
https://enterprisezine.jp/news/detail/18865
>Ministry of Justice introduces law translation system using AI translation, to be operational in all ministries and agencies from April 2024, provided by Toshiba Digital Solutions.
https://edtechzine.jp/article/detail/10283
>Nagase to Launch "English Composition 1000 Knocks" in December, a system that uses ChatGPT to instantly correct and instruct English compositions (Japanese to English translations).
https://www.asahi.com/articles/ASR803V4XR89PLBJ007.html
>AI Will Make English Teachers Unnecessary? Linguist calls it "revolutionary".
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/%3EYears%20of%20%22You%20can%27t%20do%20anything%20chud%2C%20we%20already%20won%20%3A%29%22./
not an argument
I wasn't arguing.
oh, man, this is glorious
You're too obvious again.
and you finna lose yo job lil homie
What job?Why are you shitskins so cringy?
Holy based
It'd probably play out exactly like that too. Japanese autism when they set their minds to something is unparalleled.
See pic
You really like your fanfic uh
You have a better explanation?
This is more believable than the fricking Korean Feminist Cult, but here we fricking are.
God bless bellicose otaku
God bless the Yakuza
The news are finally reaching the JP side of things, including the companies.
Reminder complaining about evil deeds to bring them to light ALWAYS works.
no it doesnt, you should really just shut up about anything you dislike and never talk about it, its not cool to hate things it doesnt make you trendy you sperg burger just shutup and let it get ru-talk about things you like instead.
>troons already in hysteric denial
hahahahahaha
Sony, a Japanese company, is at the forefront of all the censoring for anime games which come to Playstation. Japanese publishers will not forgoe the money they could earn on Playstation.
>sony
>japanese
o im laffin
You can posting about how they are Californian all you want but it doesn't refute the latter half of my post.
>All that playstation money
japan doesnt care about consoles you dumb homosexual lmao
PS5 sold some emverasment like 4mil in jp
and thats just because of JRPGs
if it didnt ahve those itd sell as bad as the xbox.
Nintendo is starting to do that too btw.
>Sony, a Japanese company,
it's a westoid company with their HQ on troonyfornia
That's playstation not sony
This will accomplish fricking nothing. JP companies aren't going to drop their EU and US teams for AI despite your wishful thinking.
>JP companies aren't going to drop their EU and US teams for AI
Lol
Anon, companies ALWAYS do what's cheaper, and AI is cheaper than paying Americans and Euros.
You're moronic if you think these people won't be replaced.
>We're the heroes!!
Ganker has no moral leg to stand on, you fricking homosexual
>including the companies.
What are they gonna do, say that they didn't know this is going on? That they had zero quality control because...reasons? Nobody there has ever cared about this shit. You have to bring this up to the moral and ethics departments there for something to be done and they clearly don't give a damn what those gaijin morons think because they're not the target audience and their white pig opinions don't matter.
>DEI-SAMA PLESE SAVE US
The Japanese are now realizing that most westoids are fricking cultural terorrists who want to destroy other cultures and make it conform to their tastes.
What culture?
found the troony
Not an answer.
Why don't Japanese people translate their work in-house?
Because they all suck at english
Because nips can't speak English despite having mandatory classes every year in public school.
They will now 🙂
Good question but the answer is that unlike what
said and going from other languages to English is actually the hardest thing ever due to all of the nuances. Not to mention that there are a lot of phrases that foreigners think can translate well, that's why we see or hear "do the needful" more times than we would like. The only reason it is so common for people to kind of know English as a second language is because it was the most profitable when the US was a superpower.
>it was the most profitable when the US was a superpower.
And now which is the most....?
China of course!
Russian is better, i cannot with mandarin script.
China
All of the fricking countries we rely on to not completely chimpoout to maintain some semblance of control, including its own citizens.
>Not to mention that there are a lot of phrases that foreigners think can translate well, that's why we see or hear "do the needful" more times than we would like
That happens with every language, it has absolutely nothing to do with English, it's just that every language has expressions that portray very specific ideas that simply don't exist in other languages.
It's very easy to learn the basics of English since the basic sentence structure is simple and similar to the one in romance languages plus conjugation rules are easier and more straightforward.
This is for the most basic shit, the stuff that allows foreigners to say their names and ask for directions. English becomes way harder once you go past the basics. On languages like Spanish or Italian the curve is backwards: the basics are hard to grasp but once you get them the rest is mostly straightforward since it's all based on the same rules.
That's what this whole AI debacle is about.
It started because localizers started b***hing because some Japanese AI company worked with Bushiroad to AI translate a recent chapter of Ancient Magus' Bride.
Was that what the whole bullshit involving Magus Bride was about? I thought it was another localizers taking liberties again.
The author of that manga is somewhat open to some typical homosexualry shit, maybe that's why it hurts them even more, who knows. Unfortunately I don't particularly follow this series so other anons might know better.
That's what the AI translation they are making will do. They only ever needed localizers because of the way importing worked in the old pre-2000 days before globalization. Now they can just sell the product digital
The fire rises
Fricking finally?
Even if its only to cut expenses it is beneficial if those psychos are fired
Poorly translated AI text >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Propaganda
Fascinating, but ultimately, a waste of my time. I'll get back to reading now. Thanks for reading my blog.
First the Koreans, now the Japanese. Good things in the future for gamers.
That is a good image
Using and recording their disgusting and tasteless methods is something they hate
Played plenty of AI translated eroge, and it was fine. I really don't see the big deal. The quality is higher than localized content.
This reminds me of when I went to Japan Expo in Paris in 2022, Yusuke Kozaki was a guest and he answered fans' questions. One guy asked something about how his art style changed a bit after he worked on FE Fates based on how he used to draw Xander back then and how he draws him now but since that character's name is マークス in Japanese Kozaki and the interpreter took 5 whole minutes to even understand wtf the fan was asking and then laughed at how the name was changed.
Maybe if they focused on translating stuff accurately they would have a greater say in pushing back against AI.
We can only hope the JP executives understand this costs them money.
If they brought the game over without censorship and without this shit, it would sell more.
If this messages gets to them and makes them apply AI even sooner, we already won.
If I could write them, this wouldn't be a problem for me.
Let’s be honest, both versions are moronic. Is this that gay as frick Vanillaware game that isn’t about big titty b***hes beating up demons? Shameful.
Ok, guys, serious question. How to learn japanese from basically zero efficiently? I tried duolingo, but it's pretty awful in my experience.
copypasted off a /jp/ pasta
Just do the usual.
>Learn kana, don't even worry about nailing it to perfection, just "good enough", this takes 1-2 days.
>Skim a grammar guide like sakubi, and only the basics, you will use it as a textbook for years: https://sakubi.neocities.org/
>Learn the first 2 grades of joyo kanji, again only to "good enough", takes 3-4 days.
>Get started on reading, go back to grammar guides or a dictionary whenever needed, which will be often.
>Repeat for like 2-5 years until N1.
Just remember to avoid hover dictionaries and j*sho because the databases are compromised, just JP > JP dictionaries instead, MTL if you have to.
>recommending beginners to use only JP > JP dictionaries
This will only discourage them. I use both jp>jp and jisho and the later is fine most of the time, I don't the see the problem.
Westoid attempts at sabotaging anyone learning Japanese have reached to the point of sabotaging JP > EN databases used by both j*sho and hover dictionaries, these days you will get definitions that are either comically dry or outright wrong, exactly to push the "Japanese is too dry/robotic" meme.
For example look up 岩石 and 岩根 if you don’t believe me, pro tip: they aren’t synonyms.
You think it’s a freaky exception? It’s not, look up 降雪 and 天華, or 強風 and 一陣.
Again, they aren’t synonymous, or they are in the same sense “trees” and “delightful grove” are technically synonyms, in fact the rocks example isn’t even a synonym, not even close.
And this is just the tip of the iceberg by the way, look up 前, 先, 嘗て or 往 if you want to see how fricked up things have been for a while now.
Do yourself a favor and throw your EN > JP dictionary bookmarks in the trash where they belong, and bookmark kotobank,jp, because the sabotage has gotten so bad that throwing words at a JP > JP dictionary and using MTL on the result gives you more accurate definitions with far more depth than whatever garbage the west is trying to feed you.
hmmmm I think I'll keep using jisho, thanks
Or, you know, just use both and compare the meanings.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/Westoid%20attempts%20at%20sabotaging%20anyone%20learning%20Japanese/
Another bot.
he's right tho
It's not a problem with translation databases but just English being a primitive one-note language to which anything with any sort of elegance can't be translated properly.
Good chatGPT
come on homosexuals MAKE UP YOUR MIND ALREADY
The guy bashing western dictionaries is entirely right and i'm always suspicious of any homosexuals defending them because there's simply no reason to when jp ones exist.
I remember checking the definition of okama after seeing JPs non-stop spamming it on a stream and thought it was weird how jisho was trying to portray it as innocuous when they were clearly insulting him and they had added a line about it meaning "trans people" to boot.
Looking it up on weblio I found that it meant homosexual (it's a slang word for someone who "digs a pot" aka takes it up the ass), was primarily a very pejorative term and the troony shit was completely made up. (the closest use is for cross-dressing gays but it's only because they're considered homosexuals)
>how jisho was trying to portray it as innocuous when they were clearly insulting
The only problem I see is troony line, the rest is fine. It even says japs use it as a derogatory comment
>(preoperative) transgender woman
Completely made up.
Yes, the rest is fine though.
>it's fine when a literal dictionary lies to push a political agenda
no
have a nice day cultural imperialist troon
Try to live in a relevant nation.
Well guess it's fine then if we start adding in definitions for "トランス" explaining it's a term used exclusively for mentally ill pederasts.
No issue with that, amirite?
yeah, sounds good to me.
>トランス
The FF9 Limit Break?
Look, the dictionary basically says it's a derogatory term japs use to say "homosexual" against trannies, gays, transvestites, effeminate men. We call those men gays all the time too, so what exactly is the problem with that interpretation?
it says "transgender woman" which is a fake lie
>a man who thinks he's a woman is a homosexual
Where is the lie?
>Alphabets
>Verbs
>Nouns
>Kanji
Download anki, install themoeway n5 and memorize everything
While duolingo will start teaching you words and how to speak a fair bit, it's absolutely dogshit at learning how to read or the alphabets, unless you go out of your way to cross reference the words vowels with the translations.
Learning the alphabets separately while following duolingos isn't that bad of an idea,
If you're a degenerate weeb, you'll probably know what duolingo teachs you for the first 3 weeks.
It does a better job at teaching korean since it actually teachs you alphabet, vowels and consonants and there's a certain logic to the characters once you start understanding how they write.
you can tell its a shitskin every time talking about trannies when they deny non-white trannies also exist and seem hyper focused on the white trannies only
Maybe tojos should stop putting le based crossdressers in every goddamn game they make. This is precisely how it’s going to be interpreted for western audiences in this day and age.
>japs reacting to asmongold reactions
I don't know how many layers of irony we're on anymore bros
cope troony
Tell your daddy to clean his room, homosexual.
This time it's alright, asmongold might actually save us from horrible miss-translations
>guaranteed replies
>someone is finally taking troony localizations and back-translating them to japanese
You love to see it
Ahh, vindication...
Now we watch the coping and seething as the snowball grows.
I made another thread that cooked so good
Let me Cook
>muh /misc/boogeyman
>Talking about taking shit from twittwr shemales isn't political nonsense
meds, my friend
>Talking about taking shit from twittwr shemales isn't political nonsense
Weird how it isn't political nonsense when game devs and translators do it, only when Ganker reacts to it. Almost like you're being completely dishonest and have a vested interest in making sure we shut the frick up about it.
NTA but boogiemen don't exist. Trying to tell people /misc/ doesn't exist is a bit insane. Get help.
Nobody said /misc/ doesn't exist. What you're claiming is that reacting to trends in our hobby is /misc/. Somehow it's not /misc/ when these freaks do everything they can to make vidya into a political platform, but it is /misc/ if we want them to stop. You're a dishonest rat and what you mean by "/pol/" is that Ganker isn't accepting the programming you want. have a nice day.
I see you are new. You likely were never here for /b/ either. People are calling you /misc/ because you behave identical to them. It is no different than when people told you to go back to /b/. You are acting identical to someone from there and shitting the place up. You belong there, so go back.
I've been for a long, long time. Long before your discord was paid to raid the place. I'm not acting like /misc/, I'm acting like Ganker. Ganker has always hated censors, Ganker has always hated moral busybodies, and Ganker has always hated garbage translations. You're an astroturfing rat and the mask is falling off your crooked face at record speed. It's not /misc/ when we tell you to frick off out of our hobby and stop trying to make it a platform for your lunacy. have a nice day.
It's happening and it's a good thing but also you made it up because you're a /misc/ poster and you shouldn't be allowed to talk about the boogieman you made up unless you agree with me in which case it becomes real again.
this
they trample all over you and then when you complain they attack you for being 'political', as if not wanting video games shit up by politics is itself is some kind of political position but injecting political propaganda into video games is not
Pretty much how it always is
You lost bunkertroon. Nobody likes these shitty subs.
>Asmonbald with japanese subs
>Then a japanese fish with voice changer starts talking
Kek
How far back does this go? Is classic anime like Macross & Gundam untouched by these maniacs?
Classic anime also had shitty translation and dub but in a soulful way (no pozzing)
microsoft is most likely going to be the market leader in AI and you can bet your ass they are going to create an absolutely disgustingly woke shitheap of an authoritarian AI
Hell if i were a christian i'd be convinced the antichrist will be an AI
again, even if AI is taught to re-write "problematic" content, it at least won't randomly inject woke text where there wasn't one
secondly, even if AI perverted translations as badly as troonylators do, at least a video games hating troon isn't going to get paid for it
>don't play nipshit
>don't have to bother if it's translated well or not
Enjoy your troony westslop
The only good Japanese games are westernized ones anyway. None of your low-quality tranimeshit is good.
>This localization in particular has been used as a shining example of everything wrong with these localizers
What??? In the mere two minutes I have listened to the person talk this is the second time I witnessed him frick up a common expression to this degree. Did this motherfricker even finish middle school?
In the other video he said something to the effect of "and localizers have been rubbing their noses into anyone critizing them for their bad work." WHAT? The frick
Anyways, frick localizers
Western games when every other character is a homosexual or black woman are apparently not for me and I shouldn't complain about their content but Japanese games with themes translators dont like are apparently also not for me and problematic
are there anymore vids of japanese people talking about it?
I don't see the issue but I;m also too old to get angry over "who cares" tier drama
Does FE Engage has a retranslation patch? last time I read about it was taken down due to Anna "e-girlfied" lines.
varis forum and based mods have it.
Do you have a link of the full patch?
Nvm I didn't know about Varis forum.
Does the censorship in Fire Emblem Engage only affect the North American version or are the European languages also affected like French, Italian, German?
I really do love how visibly asshurt and neurotic the troonslators and their ilk are acting in these threads in the wake of the AI news.
nothing will change nothing will change you fricking chud loser idiot AI will be woke and if the AI itsself isnt woke the companys will make it woke and if they dont make it woke then the people checking it will make it woke because the whole point of using an AI is so that you end up spending more money to still have a human do it GOSH dont you know anything noones unhinged here but you you fricking SPUD.
It's pretty funny, especially when guys like
make it super obvious that they're seething.
The issue you have here is your assumption that these translators are going over the head of their employers to do this, and that the employers never wanted it. This is a huge reach.
It's irrelevant because the employers are Americans and Euros who are also being replaced.
This isn't a single translator or even a group of translators being replaced, this is entire translation departments being replaced with AI and SEAs.
And it's beautiful to behold.
If you say so. I guess it's nice you feel good until reality hits. I see it a lot here and it's a bit funny.
Reminds me of "TWO MORE WEEKS"
Lol, you actually think companies WON'T replace expensive Americans and Euros with cheaper employees?
How naive/moronic are you?
>TWO MORE WEEKS
more like two weeks ago LMFAO
maybe troonyslators should learn to code lol
>witnessed
add me to the screencap
QUUAAAAADDDDFEEEEEEED
nice
yooooooo
Maybe they should.
Unironically Coding should be a mandatory class in both elementary middle school and high school.
No point in learning coding either; that market is getting fricked by AI too.
This board needs flags, and IDs.
what suspicion of yours do you expect they'd confirm?
as an aside, this is supposed to be an anonymous site. even if memeflag posters are 90% cancer, i support removing automatic flags as a matter of principle
and IDs are just a newbie crutch, learn2philology if you're so afraid of samegays
Agreed. They should rather ban the entirety of the third world.
Arigatou fish-kun.
>*strikes the fear of god into westoid goylems*
nothing personnel kid
SAVE US JAPAN
let me coook. thanks for participating in my thread
We've seen some shit localizations, but I don't think this is one of them.
What the frick is the AI fish saying?
I think /misc/tards obsession over Japan and it being some conservative bastion is hilarious. Same country that has black guys in their commercials and whose national sport champions are all non-Japanese.
Every thread I am in has mention of politics but only one mentions anime. What's up with that?
Why is it through the lense of "this is what they're going to do to our japanese games"
Culture Warriors are unfortunately way more zealous and passionate than the weebiest Naruto running Japanophile. They can't be dealt with by the userbase, the moderation team has to prune them.
Why would rapeape prune them?
That's very much the problem isn't it?
Worse is that Ganker still hasen't learned it lesson from GamerGate.
Politics shitposters have the fear response trained in them hardcore, once you see it you can't unsee it
there's always the "WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS THIS IS IMPORTANT HAPPENING ALARM BELLS WHAT DO YOU MEAN JUST TALK ABOUT VIDEOGAMES THIS IS __rEAL LIFE___" bait
Glad to know someone else sees this. The catastrophic, earth shattering nature of [outrage-of-the-week] is always present in these kinds of threads, even for games Anon would otherwise not care about. It gets tiring after the 50th time, but there's always fresh eyes to sell the outrage to, no matter how inane it is.
"drama"
They should develop new tools that use AI to compare the original and translated scripts, then indicate which areas are grossly mistranslated.
>Deep voiced man pretending to be a devil girl being watched by a goblin millionaire being watched by a goldfish in a bowl
WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO PEOPLE'S ATTENTION SPAN MY FRICKING GOD
I don't know, I can get behind the goldfish. If a goldfish started speaking to me in real life I'd hear him out for sure.
Is it true japs got the yakuza involved because they were upset about shitty TLs ruining their waifu's purity?
See
Holy fricking based, I can't wait for troonylators to be out of a job forever. I'll take even the jankiest shittiest MTL over them, at least it will try to be accurate
Japs hate the yakuza and have done a lot to make the life of Yakuza virtually unlivable. You can't even attend a sumo event if they even consider you as having a 0.1% chance of being a Yakuza member
No, yakekza is too busy getting buttfricked by nigerians.
Don't care about this shit and 20k Palestinians have been genocided, 60% being kids
If you are legit mad about this you live in some insane bubble and have no actual issues in your life. Go get a job, insane loserdom in this thread
you don't hate trannies you hate yourself
Yes I live in the bubble of the things that actually matter to me and not some random war that has nothing to do with me.
The war has nothing to do with me, he says as his president signs another executive order to deliver guns
war or no war this country gets on its hands and knees to give aid to pissrael. it doesn't matter who you vote for, it will never end
I don't work for the military, I'm not a gun launderer or whatever
Selling guns to another country isn't special and it has no personal effect on my life
Not sure where you're going with this
>The usa is delivering guns to israel
>"I don't care, because i'm not a black market gun launderer"
What the actual frick did the shill mean by this
>the usa is delivering guns to israel
>you are supposed to care about this despite the fact it doesn't personally affect you at all because.... you just HAVE to...
Curious!
Thanks for funding our economy fricktard.
so its bad when rightoids stereotype blacks as criminals
but its okay for leftists to say white people are all evil genocidal colonists even though the average american or european has no effect on their shitty government
Yup
All me, and I'm israeli.
Yes.
Uh-huh
THROATING ISRAEL wiener
All European tradition, Marxism included, has conspired to defy the natural order of all things. Mother Earth has been abused, the powers have been abused, and this cannot go on for ever. No theory can alter that simple fact. Mother Earth will retaliate, the whole environment will retaliate, and the abusers will be eliminated. Things come full circle. Back to where they started. That’s revolution. And that’s a prophecy of my people, of the Hopi people and other correct peoples
Caucasians have a more positive vision to offer humanity than European culture. 1 believe this. But in order to attain this vision it is necessary for Caucasians to step outside of European culture — alongside the rest of humanity — to see Europe for what it is and what it does. To cling to capitalism and Marxism and all the other “isms” is simply to remain within European culture. There is no avoiding this basic fact. As a fact this constitutes a choice. Understand that the choice is based on culture, not race. Understand that to choose European culture and industrialism is to choose to be my enemy. And understand the choice is yours, not mine
Same Old Song, 1973
nah,i just hate trannies, leftists and non-whites like yourself
We really need to ban turd worlders.
dilate
Shitskin /misc/trannies do that a lot, yes.
Losing a war is not a genocide, but it is an indicator you shouldn't have started it.
strange how a population being genocided and are supposedly 'refugees' has swelled from 750k in the 1950s to over 8 million today
have a nice day israelite
When a devil gets caught by a monster, I, as a human being, can only hope that they both die.
Death to Israel.
Death to Palestine.
>asmongold
how the frick does this guy manage to insert himself in everything? I'm getting flashbacks to suddenly seeing my mom watching his videos on her phone when the johnny depp shit was going on
He insert himself into your mom dude.
Yeah he just turns on the camera, watches someone else's video and says "Uhh yeah that makes sense, I agree." and gets reposted everywhere. Dumb b***h get rekt by neuro.
What a funny domino effect
>underage shartygays attack the dev of The Coffin of Andy and Leyley
>Rev covers the situation
>Asmongold watches his video, discovering his channel in the process along with a large part of his chat
>his chat proceed to suggest more Rev videos for him to react to
>Asmongold ends up seeing one of Rev's many videos about localizers being bad on purpose and forcing their agendas in anime
>japanese people who weren't aware of this bullshit pick up on the situation and start talking about Asmongold video reacting to Rev's video
>meanwhile more and more people support the use of AI for anime/manga translation because of the behavior of translators/localizers
Sharteens might end up improving the quality of anime in the west despite the fact that they hate it.
I hope that's true so I can laugh at two groups I dislike getting fricked instead of just one.
For those out of the loop this is what started the drama (though it's not recent) and made many localizers have an autistic meltdown.
such a glorious scene to witness
i dont care
learn japanese
もうしってるんだ
From what I can read of the comments section, Japanese people are pretty based
Chuds lost
lost what exactly? troons will lose their job
...and fine a new one while chuds continue to be poor neets living in their mom's basement
>Implying they'll be the AI's tard wranglers
>when even nips are starting to find out about localizer frick ups
you are delusional