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Jblow is broke, buy the upcoming Braid remaster to support him
Could have made a better game
This clown deserves to be broke, his games are trash.
He released a reasonably competent platformer into an empty market, made loads of money, and thought he was somehow a genius. He just had absolutely amazing timing, through no merit of his own.
Make no mistake, Braid would absolutely get lost in the shuffle if it dropped today.
>braid
>platformer
Hey, zoom zoom
Puzzle platformer big fricking difference
He is a clown, but I think his games are amazing
His games are shit. The Witness is garbage. Go frick yourself.
The Witness is one of the my favorite games so NO U
You aren't a human being, that game is the most pretentious pile of shit ever made.
Nobody cares homosexual, if you don't hate John Blow you shouldn't be here.
This clown deserves to be broke, his games are good but he's a clown.
Did he consult DEI companies for his games?
No
Nippon revenge complete
The sweetest fricking revenge. The only thing better would be a complete closure.
QRD?
Blow was professional compared to the others.
he's kinda true, there's a lot of handholding in shitty games
Yeah. Thank goodness western games aren't guilty of handholding right?
Wasn't it that fish Black person that dunked on jap devs?
Sounds like he put about 198,000 too many words in the game.
and this is why you dont want the "not invented here" syndrome
>no I must make my own engine
ok but nobody is going to pay you for that
you just burned money over being stubborn
What a moronic vision.
And this idea that making your own engine is something insane that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars is totally wrong. There are plenty of indie games made by a single guy with their own engines, such as Zortch and Crystal Project.
>There are plenty of indie games made by a single guy with their own engines, such as Zortch and Crystal Project.
true, but it's also a massive trap for devs too, need the right tool for the right job
obligatory
Never stops being funny.
Honestly every single time I ever see a mention of Jonathan Blow or Braid I stop to watch this.
>this shit stupid as hell man
AIN'T NO POINT TO THE GAME
He made the monkey man laugh and have a good time, about the most you could hope for
i saw that soulja clip out of context yesterday in a video and wondered what game he was talking about and then find it here and it's the funniest thing ever. What a blessed feeling.
Same
you also watched the timeshift review I see
honestly soulja boy gave the game the biggest marketing push. nobody would have heard of braid if it werent for his shitpost. he was the eceleb of games at the time like lil b.
I genuinely, unironically believe that this is what made John Blow racist
Are you people fricking idiots? You understand he isn't reacting to Soulja Boy, right? It's a bunch of dramatic shots of Blow with him talking about how people didn't "get it" (and he specifies this disappointment came from how supposed critics misunderstood it (he doesn't care if normies get it or not)). The director just chose to insert the Soulja boy thing in there and people got the wrong idea.
Hi Jon, when are you going to release Jai publicly?
I'm not sure about that, after all, I'm not the one who spent hundreds of thousands to translate some text for a re-release.
I am just sick of people buying into misinformation literally every single thread about this guy's games. You can hate the fricker for all I care, but get new material.
>NOOOOOOOOO LEAVE MY E-CELEB ALONE
isn't this the gay from Linus Tech Tips that trooned out?
no i think the ltt troon has a bigger forehead and eyes spaced further apart
I don't know what's sadder;
>some rando white knighting jon
>jon replying to a bunch of meme threads on Ganker about him
I literally don't care if you hate Jon or not. I just hate that this site is becoming reddit incarnate with the same shit over and over again.
>Bacon!
>Thanks for the gold fellow redditors!
This is what you sound like to the rest of us.
i don't even hate him and i'm not even the guy you originally started talking to
you're literally having an autistic meltdown over some light ribbing
It's not about the ribbing, it is about the repetitiveness. I am having a meltdown because it sort of proves Jon's point, you can't have an interesting discussion on the internet anymore. It's just the same jokes and circlejerking over and over again. I just want to hear something new and authentic. I thought the Soulja boy video was hilarious for the longest time, but I am just tired of it at this point.
definition of insanity and all that
since he's right, why do you keep coming to these threads?
There is a thin line between hope and delusion, and I am slowly moving over into the delusion side.
>waaaaah why isnt this thread catering to me specifically!!!
this is so fricking funny to me, the concept of some slightly dysfunctional autist with no sense of empathy (i.e. unable to understand that not everyone possesses the same information he does, and thus the jblow video would be knew to them) accidentally getting himself mentally trapped on Ganker and hating how tedious and repetitive it is, but refusing to frick off because he's been mentally locked in like a rat in a cage.
That's why this is posted every single time, right? So that new people can find it?
>accidentally getting himself mentally trapped on Ganker and hating how tedious and repetitive it is, but refusing to frick off because he's been mentally locked in like a rat in a cage.
This is getting to be true for me, and I really just need to drop this site. I am sure I will eventually, but it takes a while to kick a habit. Regardless, that doesn't mean you aren't an attention prostitute hiding behind "empathy".
>calling anyone an attention prostitute when you constantly enter threads and make it about yourself and your problems and how everyone is a mindless drone except you
jesus christ get a grip kiddo
>constantly enter threads and make it about yourself and your problems and how everyone is a mindless drone except you
If this is how you mentally characterize calling out people who lower the level of discourse, then that is a you problem.
No hes right, there a lot of issues on the baord. One of them is the race to be the funny one, post some meme or video and get a bunch of yous. The video is actually false and a misrepresentation. Is very reminiscent of the way reddit started getting low quality posts, where the top comments where all just jokes. Same way here you get people posting some meme other going "wow bases , heres a (you)" clogging up the thread.
What do you expect?
It's Ganker, go to another board if you want a somewhat interesting discussion, or better yet, a different site entirely.
Name two video game sites that have more interesting discussion.
Thank you. I feel like I am taking crazy pills sometimes. I just need to drop this site.
you should
you're too easy to wind up
>video is actually false and a misrepresentation
Oh come the frick on. Sure, the homosexual might not be talking specifically about Soulja Boy but it perfectly encapsulates, in a humorous way, the overall pretentious sentiment he has.
>If the writing is worth something, would I expect to see a full understanding of it posted on the Internet in a week? Possibly not.
Fricking insufferable.
>came from over 60 hours
Jesus fricking christ
>john blow cries about soulja boy
>video is not about that, still tries to force that narrative
You are so dumb it's honestly kind of cute.
Let's be honest , this thread is just a vaguely disguised kiwifarms dump with the same people moronicly sperging out over some dude that made a scrimblo game and was pretentious a decade ago , who gives a shit anymore? There's a trillion worse people on twitter that fits that criteria now , it's just that Kiwigays can't let go of a joke that's run it's course already , just like they can't stop talking about dobson 4 years after him leaving the internet
I never bought any of his games because I heard he was a pretentious and insufferable homosexual.
>15 hours of commentary
I might be right.
>he doesn't care if normies get it or not
as evident by how many times he has verifiably shown up in discussions of braid and himself online
Do you think those people are normies?
>blow thinks critics are smarter than normies
holy frick blow is even more moronic than i thought
it's not about him thinking critics are smarter, moron. it's because their words are the ones that get read most, not random people's
>literally crying and malding because nobody "gets it"
>flat out refuses to explain "it"
Art should mean "aesthetically beautiful human creation" and nothing else, all this interpretive stuff is extremely fricking gay.
That sums up art world for the last twenty years.
>Ask an artist what their painting means
>They sperg out and tell you to figure it out yourself
>implying their epic spergout is not the meaning of the work itself
Yeah but I fricking love David Lynch and despite never explaining anything he sincerely just wants you to enjoy it and doesnr get mad if you do (as long as its not on a phone lmao) and just wants you to imagine what it means for yourself
Blow you beautiful balding bastard.
When the FRICK will you let me use Jai!?
I want to finally use a proper language instead of the ABOMINATION that is C++.
>Are you people fricking idiots? You understand he isn't reacting to Soulja Boy, right?
Memes repeated for long enough eventually become genuine beliefs.
In a way I'm almost surprised there are so many people who think he was genuinely talking about Soulja Boy specifically. I thought it was always pretty obvious that he was talking, broadly and generally, about the overall reception to the game, generalizing all discussions and reviews about it. The video even shows examples of him showing up in comment sections of blogs and reviews. It's literally just a shitpost video with a shitposty title (like "x DESTROYS y with FACTS AND LOGICS", basic youtube clickbait or meme video titling). The Soulja Boy clip was just chosen to put behind the depressed monologue because it was the funniest example of someone "not getting it", which is the central grievance Jonathan Blow has.
People acting like it's misrepresenting or anything are just as bad as the morons that think he was literally reacting to Soulja Boy.
wtf is wrong with you? do you have some kind of fetish involving tediously spouting off about the relationship between jblow and souljaboy? no one in the thread even said he was directly responding to souljaboy, your inititial shitpost was responding to a joke post about jblow being a racist, which does not imply that the reaction of jblow in the video was to souljaboy in the video, it only implies that jblow eventually saw the souljaboy video and thus later became a racist. i cant believe i have to explain such a simple and trivial concept to you, you autistic wreck
and yet you insist on bringing this up over and over and over again. incredibly ironic that the moron that argues that Ganker is tedious reddit npc shit also cant help but be the shitposting equivalent of a windup doll. i cant tell if it's your lack of any kind of empathy or the one-track reading comprehension that sees entire narratives where they don't exist. god you're so dumb, you can't even understand simple jokes
The guy you are responding to isnt me, the guy who started it. And yes, a lot of people do see it as real (I dont give a shit what copium you spew), but that bothers me less than seeing
>bacon
>hordes of reaction posts indicating laughter
In every thread. Yeah, I will call you idiots out every time until it stops.
>your inititial shitpost
>you insist on bringing this up over and over and over again
Jesus Christ, take your meds.
See
Sad but true.
I think this is even worse
Jesus christ. This is the problem with people who take internet discussion too seriously. It's a brain disease I swear. Yeah, go figure reviewers aren't going too in-depth into your arthomosexual game. I'm sure people were having discussions on more niche forums about the nuance to the story tied in with the time mechanics, but you would never expect your mainstream audience to know or give a shit. You would HOPE that you made something that appeals to the lowest common denominator well enough to sell and be successful without compromising on the overall vision and Blow did that with both Witness and Braid. Most people who play Witness and Braid probably never finished either (or didn't read or understand the story in Braid), and just think they're an open world puzzle game and time reversing platformer that have fun puzzles.
THAT'S FINE YOU moron.
This would be like Einstein becoming famous for his work, and then going into a second grade math class and all the kids being like
>omg wow it's Einstein! haha, famous scientist man!
and then Einstein coming out all doomery like
>Ze chidren simple did not understand the true beauty of my vork. It vaz very disheartening...
>I'm sure people were having discussions on more niche forums about the nuance to the story tied in with the time mechanics
The problem is that this doesn't really exist anymore. The masses flocking to the internet has basically lowered the the level of discourse so much and flooded the airwaves, that it is impossible to find interesting discussion anymore. It's gotten to the point where the most in-depth discussion you can find are plot summaries where all the comments go "woah, that's deep". I think Blow can get too far up his ass sometimes, but I relate to him here, which is why I am sperging out in this thread.
You aren't exactly wrong, I think anyone who's tried to connect with others through their work's gonna suffer some of that. You publish anything genuine and the best you'll get is
>bro thinks therefore he is lmao
HOLY SHIT JUST STATE PLAINLY WHAT IT MEANS
THAT IS IT, NO OBFUSCATION, NO DANCING AROUND IT, JUST FRICKING SAY IT
Defeats the purpose, you dumb frick.
Is he legitimately autistic?
That. Or an extreme narcissist. Or both. Regardless, he has zero self-awareness.
>the fadeout with soulja boy mogging the game
beautiful.
THE MAN THE MYTH THE LEGEND
>Because their living in a different world still
Translates to "They are beneath me" Jon if you read this, your depression was every bit deserved..DO BETTER
I've never actually watched the full video, but your comment inspired me to do just that, because I wanted to see the context of that quote of his you brought up. Honestly, it's even worse in context.
Prior to watching the video, I assumed he was specifically talking about Soulja Boy's views on the game. But he wasn't. He was saying that players in general who don't see the game as this profoundly deep work of art are living in a different world.
Has Blow ever considered that maybe his game isn't anywhere near as profound or deep as he thinks it is that it could create that sort of spiritual connection he desires?
SOULJA BOY TELL EM
I don't understand.
It seems like he thinks the game is fun. What's the issue?
He doesn't. He says "this shit dumb as hell man."
He thinks it's goofy, but seems entertained by the reverse zoom zoom mechanic. best you can expect from mainstream audience to be honest.
he had more fun with it than the dev did so he won
didn't you watch the video? It doesn't matter if people like it, they still didn't get it, that's why Jblow has to sit alone in a dark room.
Blow must be autistic to have this kind of reaction.
But most importantly, the work should speak for itself. It doesn't matter what the author thought when he wrote it, or what he thought people would understand, what matters is what the work actually conveys to people.
Once the author has finished a work, it now has a life of its own and the author should ideally shut up and let people understand it in their own way, because unless it's something exact, where there's only one correct answer that you can reach through logic, then there will inevitably be multiple possible interpretations, and the author shouldn't diminish his own work by forcing people to interpret it the way he imagined it.
The problem is that he's a narcissist.
The work should speak for itself, but if it doesn't, he has to come in and correct you for taking it in a different way, or not getting it.
Well correct away then, explain it, go right ahead.
I will never understand interpretation gays like you. Everything has one meaning, the author had an idea in his head when he made something, it wasn't just blank. Whether that meaning was gay and stupid is another deal, but there is an OBJECTIVE purpose in everything humans make. You could make a hotdog and I could interpret it as being a commentary on the economy of the Soviet Union, what the frick is the point of stupid subjective shit? This is why I hate gays like Blow and Lynch, everything is some unanswered jigsaw puzzle they flat out refuse to explain.
Language isn't as objective as you might think, especially when it comes to fiction where you can't anchor things in real-world events and facts.
Sometimes the simple mood of the reader can make a passage take on a different meaning in his head. These things are inevitable and no author will be able to get away with it unless they write in an extremely rigorous way, which many people will avoid in fiction because often letting the reader's imagination run wild is desirable. And sometimes, even if you're extremely rigorous, you can't escape the fact that there are multiple interpretations possible. The only way to write something that is 100% objective is to use mathematical language or some shit like that.
In other words, it's inevitable that people will think of different interpretations to the author's, and if there's nothing in the work that makes that interpretation wrong, it's just as valid as the author's, because the author's opinion is irrelevant when his work has already been published and now exists without his interference. The author will die one day, his comments will be forgotten, but the work will be there, speaking for itself, because it is more important than the author.
>Language isn't as objective as you might think, especially when it comes to fiction where you can't anchor things in real-world events and facts.
Sometimes the simple mood of the reader can make a passage
and I'm done, learn how to talk like a human being. I only care about the author's intent if your moronic sperging is saying otherwise.
>I only care about the author's intent
So you're not interested in art in the first place. You're just interested in one guy's opinion.
You're the type who would throw a book in the trash if you could ask the author directly what he meant (which, as I said, doesn't matter, because the work speaks for itself and there are even cases where the work ironically ends up having the opposite effect of what the author wanted).
>You're the type who would throw a book in the trash if you could ask the author directly what he meant
The frick is wrong with that?
>which, as I said, doesn't matter, because the work speaks for itself
Talk like a human being moron.
Your vision is too poor, I won't continue arguing because you simply don't have the mental capacity to understand what I'm talking about.
You also argue like a teenager, so I'll assume you're not 18+ and shouldn't be here in the first place.
I'm 32, if you can't state what you mean in terms a moron could understand then you are even dumber than me. I don't care about subjective takes, none of them mean anything because what they are changes from person to person, it's not cemented in anything. I want to know what EXACTLY Blow was trying to convey when he made shit, everything else is meaningless.
Soulja Boy is unironically more talented and creative than Blow, dude was making beats in his bedroom and came up with a million dollar hit and also influenced hip hop production in general
the only reason hiphop is still big money is that all the 17 IQ hiphop fans listen to spotify 150 hours a week and spotify pays "artists" on played hours, so they get all the money oh the normal subscribers who know more is less and only listen 20 minutes a week (and whose artists starve starve because spotify can't distribute subscriber money properly)
>negermusik maker is talented
have a nice day
>people keep talking about how i won't shut the frick up
>let's do an interview where I whine about people saying I won't shut the frick up
what a fricking dickhead lmao. pathetic sociopath behavior
>it's getting great reviews
>but they just DONT GET IT, LIKE THEY LIVE ANOTHER WORLD
>sociopath behavior
failure to understand your audience is a recurring theme among all sorts of creators and creatives, no matter how smart, stupid or autistic they are. they all seem to have this shared trait where they are absolutely unable to engage with people, and if they do, they either drop their spaghetti or outright start looking down on and insulting them.
it's as if they all were social outcasts during their school days and never developed properly because of it.
True
>HOW COME YOU LIKE THIS CHARACTER I MADE HIM/HER AS A JOKE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
There is no person on this earth who had more fun with Braid than Soulja and his boys during that exact moment.
>They gave it 10/10 but they missed what was really important about my message to the world.
Frick you, man. Who are you, John Fricking Lennon? One kid who made one video game and its success caused you melancholy and ennui.
Motherfrickers spend four years of their life to put out a Steam game that <500 people play and then they go into debt and have to drive Lift to make ends meet.
Props to Soulja Boy for at least enjoying his life and success.
>They're not seeing the most important thing
>No I won't say what the most important thing is, otherwise people might disagree or say it's wrong
>my le bomb game is actually deep
I loved Braid but this guy needs to chill
we need a sequel where he complains about how The Looker shits on 7 years of hard work as he bans people for mentioning it in his chat.
What is the "deep" part of the game people are supposedly missing?
good
hope he kills himself after it fails too
why are schizo right wingers the ones who always want their perceived opponents to die the same ones who always schizopost about how the left wants you dead
go back to r*ddit with your hermancainaward forum
Maybe he should just actually make and ship games even if it means using some dependencies.
Does translating 200k words to a few languages really cost hundreds of thousands of dollars?
I know for a fact they don't even pay that much for the average Hollywood movie script, surely translations can't be that expensive
sounds like someone took advantage of this moron and scammed him big time lmao
It can cost that much if you use actual competent translators who normally translate business documents or academic literature. Fiction translators are typically dirt cheap.
That being said Blow is kind of a guy who I can imagine hiring university language professors and foreign published authors to work for him full time because he really wants his games to be proper high art.
>spent his life savings on hiring professional business document translators to translate a re-release of his indie platformer into turkish and korean
I respect that honestly.
Better than troonylators with a different agenda than simply 'translate into a different language'
Worth every penny if you ask me
if he was smart he'd just hire an intern to google translate it
all 5 turkish players who pay for it won't mind
Wait a minute so you're telling me that the reason so many translations contain culture warrior and identity politics in them is because they hire uneducated morons that work for cheap?
Yes
localizers are the translation equivalent of a wendy’s cashier
if he makes a good game I'll support him
should've done AI translations instead of hirining commiefornians
it was translated in 2009 zoomer homosexual
maybe he should move out of California
Definitely sniffs his own farts.
>translating cost us hundreds of thousands of dollars
what a load of shit
google translate is free and chatgpt exists
Don't you even dare even using suggest google translate
Chatgpt is miles better.
t. speak three languages
pick one and use it
as long as the players get the gist of whats being said, that's enough
if there's really big problems with the machine translation, the players can suggest corrections
knowing joe blow, he'd adamantly refuse any kind of realistic measure, he'd either have to hire a very expensive professional or learn the language himself. remember this is the same guy that spends hours ranting about how video game bridges aren't realistic. he's just a guy that got into making vidya at the exact right time: right when indie games started being acceptable on all sorts of platforms, but before most people could do it
have a nice day
>giving money to a Japanese game hating (literal) homosexual
I seriously hope you guys don't do this.
Looooool, who would buy that bullshit ?
Ive tried to play braid several times but i could never get into it, never enjoyed it
>translating cost us hundreds of thousands of dollars
Either he's lying, or he got scammed like crazy.
any dev that spends hundreds of thousands on translation deserves to fail ultimately. just like clowns who spend similar amounts on va.
localizers do not deserve money when they do their jobs poorly, which is 99% of the time, and you need to hire 1-2 people to localize for a language. you do not need to localize every language, just the main ones. it does not take them years to localize 200k words. how he's paying them hundreds of thousands is insane
the funny part is, braid has a huge fan cult around it and is translated to every langauge in the world. if he literally just shout out there'd have been many fans who translate it just for having their name put in credits
I'm getting the sense doing a good translation puts you at a premium and top 2-5% because most translators are trash
no, remasters are cancer and he's a pretentious wanker
I'm also going to assume without any evidence that he's hiring ''localizers'' to translate the game and I hate those
I remember one clip from his stream where someone asks "how much do you think your next game will sell?" and he suddenly snaps at them with "Frick you, frick you for asking that question, go frick yourself. Sales don't matter!" Then he quiets down and says in a meek and rambly sort of way "I guess, except in the sense that they keep us in business, but uh, I don't think about that stuff." or something like that.
seems like it's something he tries not to think about because he values his work and he doesnt see it as a business
sounds pretty based to me
I can see that, if I were making a great song, then I started thinking about sales, i'd be like 'hmm, maybe i'll take out these three verses and chord progressions and just repeat the chorus a few more times'
In other words, their simply not compatible if you value authenticity
>those required by a publishing partner
Which languages are those?
go woke, go broke
how is he woke?
he's broke
>name is literally blow
This guy was fricked from the outset.
Kwab
wtf it was supposed to come out april 30
>alot of words like 200k
there's maybe 200 outside of the half dozen single page 'books' at the end of the game or something.
198000 words worth of developer commentary and supplemental information please understand
Translation services, actually man made translations, cost like 5 cents per word or something. You can't say they went broke for paying 10k to translate.
There are words in braid? I hardly remember having to read anything. He really spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to translate Braid???
He's probably talking about translating the dev commentary they added.
well that's just plain moronic
Yes there are plenty of paragraphs to read. You can walk past all of it though, it could be a pretty much wordless game if you just ignore the books.
Are you telling me that adds up to 200k words? That's like an 800 page book.
the game has 15 hours of dev audio commentary its like a movies directors cut with the staff talking over the movie explaining how they made the scenes
i never really realized braid was the first mopey wordy pretentious depression platformer that inspired all those dogshit flash games
braid came way after flash games were popular, little one
im not talking about flash games in general moron, im talking about the shitty wordsowrdsowrds depression platformers
You can walk past the words in Braid. And it's certainly not trying to be depressing.
I dont see what's wrong with this...I think most people can empathize with what this is saying.
Jon, maybe you should release more than one game every decade.
All the more reason to not buy!
Just use Chatgpt
>translating cost us hundreds of thousands of dollars
dude i literally translated jung's red book with the GPT assistant API (cheap gpt 4.5 turbo version late last year), and it was better than the OG translation made by 3 professors. cost like 25 dollars but could do it under 10 if i had to do a book of the same length now
You realize the fact that you had to use a translator to interpret the book means you have no idea whether the translation is accurate or not right?
You can easily have a grasp of the basic vocabulary and grammar of a language but not have enough deep knowledge to read an advanced text at a reasonable speed, but still be able to compare a translation to the original for accuracy. You can also compare translations, if multiple translate things in a similar way you can be fairly sure they're not completely butchering it (assuming they're genuinely independent translations).
I hope he starves, fricking homosexual.
How the frick od you go broke after releasing two hit indie games. Fricking moron
he has been paying full time employees for 8 years with 0 release, that's how
He should do some collab with Soulja Boy to make a full circle moment
Don't worry, this will somehow be publishers' faults, or because of DEI or the competency crisis or whatever. Not because he spent 10 years faffing about on a language nobody wants or needs. It's funny when people who have had success working hard and believe that to be the formula realize that working hard on something doesn't always matter.
Braid has 200k words!?
The words come from new developer commentary, which adds up to over 15 hours of talking.
For other games this would be actually unbelievable but for Jonathan Blow? Not surprising in the least. Honestly, only 15 hours? Did he get cut off or something?
>over 15 hours of commentary survived the editing process, but this came from over 60 hours of initially recorded audio
?t=33
>bankrupts himself and his studio because of his own hubris
Can you imagine the translators having to sit there for 15 god damn hours listening to this to translate it?
So by his own account he wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars translating his developer commentary (likely jerking himself off) into other languages? jesus christ
This man does not have any sense.
I'm trying to see if it was actually a requirement to have the game translated in order to publish it. It looks like he just did it through his own indie company, the same one he's had since the original Braid, but I don't recall language translations being a requirement to get a game listed on Steam (and I know this because a lot of japanese vtubers play English-only horror games all the time).
I'm not familiar enough with Playstation and Xbox digital store requirements either so that might be it, but I can't imagine why he didn't just do an English-only release and then update the game with new translations after he made some revenue.
Steam does indeed not require any translation whatsoever. You could make the game in the most obscure language spoken only by 5 people in some remote valley and still release it.
In fact, there are many games with not even a single word in them, no text of any kind, so it is moot to consider this from Steam's side.
As for publishers requiring a game to be translated, unless you're being manipulated like an idiot or the publisher company are themselves just a couple of indie guys giving some minor support, it's the publisher who usually pays for the translation to other languages, and the main ones are the typical: English, Spanish, German, French, Japanese, Korean, and less so Italian and Russian. Oh, and Chinese of course, if you want your game to be review-bombed over any minor issue or unintended / made-up slight to the Chinese people a random person came up with.
Hundreds of thousands of dollars? Yeah fricking right.
I'm pretty sure he said that Braid would never get a remaster because the original is still perfectly fine to play and it would sully his artistic vision to simply rehash it for money given the game's subject matter.
>there are a lot of words in the game (like 200k)
I know there's like a journal thing that gets unlocked over the course of the game but I don't think there were THAT many words total. Did Blow just add a shitton more to the remaster? If so that's dumb.
Hahahahahaha.
No.
I don't remember there being that much text in Braid. Is he talking about The Witness? I didn't play that one.
He always does this. Braid was a hit, and he put all the money into The Witness. The Witness was an even bigger success, but now he has put it into Sokoban/Braid AE/Jai/Mystery Game. Unfortunately, I don't think the Sokoban game and Braid AE combined will fill his coffers back up.
I thought the Sokoban game was just intended as a Jai tech demo, rather than his next actual game.
It is his full next game. It was started as a simple thing, but he said the way to do the concept "right" was to just increase the scope of the game massively, which he did. He says it is one of the biggest puzzle games of all time. Unfortunately, I just don't think a Sokoban style game is as marketable as The Witness which is first person with a myst like world.
the sokoban game looks so generic
i remember people being hyped for the witness but no one seems to care about the new game.
Yeah, he basically spent a decade working on some other dude's game design ideas and its a drag. Doesn't feel fresh enough. Maybe he will surprise me, but IDK.
>Translating cost us hundreds of thousands of dollars
moron got scammed or actually hired professional translators for a fricking indie game
You barely make a living from it
I bought this piece of shit on 360 back in the day totally lame.
Jonathan Blow, more like his games blow.
thanks OP, pre-purchased. apparently it's 20% off if you buy before release. was 50% off for me though i guess because i already own OG braid
things I would not waste time and money on if I developed games
have a nice day if you don't speak American
>I would just turn down 70%+ of my sales
ok moron
Im not surprised, his last game was released ages ago and then he went on some super autistic journey to build a whole new lenguage to program his new game in instead. This is why sometimes you need to put your business hat on and not do autistic things like that.
this is him putting his business hat on, anon
After like 5 years of working on a new lenguage. His next game looks like some Sokoban game.
200k words in fricking Braid? Where? I only remember some idiotic dino babbling some idotic "le mario was cringe" take, and the woman at the end saying some shit. 500 words tops.
he apparently recorded 15+ hours of commentary for the remaster, so most of that most be from that. he also probably didnt think of the translation cost when he was recording all of that, kek
>his remaster of his shitty game has to sell a shitload of copies just to overcome the cost of translation
how can one man be so moronic
>15+ hours of commentary for the remaster
Holy fricking shit. He is up there with Kojima in fart smoking proficiency.
>15+ hours of commentary for the remaster
How can someone be so narcissistic?
What could anyone have to say about braid for 15 fricking hours?
>15 hours
Try 60+ lmao
>15 hours of JBlow jerking himself off over how much better he is than anyone else
tempting ngl
why did it take him 10 years to make the witness? it's just a walking sim + 2d puzzles.
he decided to write an entire engine for it instead of just using unity or whatever.
He's based, but he's a bit moronic at the same time.
As other anon already said, he works hard, not smart. The mainstream software developers whose code is full of dependencies are hacks when it comes to pure expertise and coding autism but they also are rewarded for it with steady and constant paychecks because they actually get work done and projects shipped.
The average person doesn't give a frick how optimized your code is as long as it runs properly and at its target FPS 99% of the time. Blow seems depressed that people don't care about his micro optimizations, but if it doesn't add anything to the game, why would they? I do think this guy should be building engines, but I don't think he should be making games. He just seems so depressed doing it, and his priorities are entirely fricked up.
Okay, that must be it.
Because otherwise it must be a very simple game to make right? I mean just programming wise, so not taking into account how long it would take to come up with all the different puzzles.
The best part is that he decided just making an engine wasn't enough, so he's creating a new programming language now.
who cares about his language, when is he coming out with his own blOwS?
Terry Davis arc is coming soon, don't worry.
Blow is a pretentious hack and he'll never get my money again. Braid is a piece of dogshit.
The current Ganker userbase doesn't remember it, but Braid was BIG. It was the first indie videogame to really explode in popularity, enough to be rubbing shoulders with the biggest AAA Japanese and Western franchises and to be considered an emblematic work of the medium.
So how in the frick is Jonathan Blow broke?
literally explained in the OP image, he's a moron with no sense of scale or time that will spend absurd amounts of money for negligible features
He always spends all the money he has on his creative projects. He doesn't believe in investing.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2198255
Oh he's moronic. He completely misunderstands investing in index funds.
if the the idea of buying index funds is that you dca into them over a long period of time then aren't stock market crashes actually desirable because it lets you buy the dip and your other losses will likely have recovered by the time you properly cash out?
Yep! A lot of people wanted an 08 again so that everyone could buy the dip, but too many people want that now, which ironically prevents it from coming to pass.
hes right tho
The Witness was even bigger btw. Blow has confirmed as such. He just spends almost all of his money on creative projects. I am sure he has a couple million still stashed in personal accounts, but I wouldn't be surprised if that if all of his company money is near used up.
Braid was in the right place at the right time with the xbox 360.
I like blow and support yesdevs, but its not as significant as people make it out to be.
Cave Story incomparison is highly influential.
Spartan programming is great but it isnt results driven. Its okay to use Unity. The goal is to make video games, not make systems that let you make video games.
he isn't personally broke, his company is broke. he is stupid for staying in SF though.
This dipshit spent 10 years making line puzzles then some shithead made a parody with the exact same gameplay just to mock how pretentious it was in <1 year.
There is no shot the creator of The Witness is broke. He probably just means the company is out of budget for this particular project.
I'll pirate it and help others do so as a frick you to the shills he pays
Braid is pure S O V L and Ganker chudcels won't gaslight me into thinking otherwise.
Blow my dick, John Blow
turns out making one game every quarter century doesn't... LE WORK?
I have had my qualms with JoBlow, but he is offering his remaster at only $10 and personally explains why it’s worthwhile on the Steam page. I have also come to realize he’s pretty based. So I pre-ordered.
wat
>profile picture makes him look like a handsome guy with a strong jawline and buzzed hair
>he's actually a fat doughy faced balding homosexual
isn't social media great? Everyone gets to be a little fricking c**t to everyone else, living in their own little world where they can make themselves seem so awesome and cool and badass while blocking anyone who says otherwise. What a wonderful invention, it sure doesn't reveal how petty and narcissistic most normalhomosexuals are.
>making a new programming language to remake chip's challenge
what kind of mental illness is this guy on
Next up is making his own computer to remake pong.
Remember that these are consumers who never created anything.
Why does currentGanker hate autistic people so much, even more than normalgays and twittergays do?
the jon blow hate on here reminds me of that story about the monkeys and the ladder
does anyone actually know why they're supposed to dislike him?
No but I love that experiment's lesson and cite it often
He's balding and I hate balds
i actually hate bald fricks as well. you can't trust them
>give them money so they can help out forigners
how about no.
I think I'm the only guy on Ganker that doesn't hate Blow
You're like those morons that buy a workstation GPU for gaming because you think that more expensive means better.
Translation does not cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, sounds like he was running it through professional censors and calling that translation
The Witness is a bad game
put it on gog
I will pirate it
>his next game is yet another fricking sokoban
Amazing
Frick blowhard
>2D Platformer
Pass.
Don't try to get uppity, slopformer slurping swine.
zoom zoom
Maybe he shouldn't have spent like 10 years reinventing the wheel because C and C++ were too mainstream
Did JBlow's engine solve anything that existing engines/frameworks couldn't solve?
THERE AINT NO POINT TO THIS GAME YOU JUST WALK AROUND JUMPIN ON SHIT
NO STOP
BLOW IS THE OP AND IS READING THIS THREAD RIGHT NOW AND YOU'RE GONNA MAKE HIM CRY
STOP PLEASE ANON HE'S VERY FRAGILE
I don't get it, did the original game not have translations? Did he not think of translating it after making all that bank?
Has this guy actually done anything since Braid? Because I sure haven't heard "from the creators of Braid" since, like other big indie stuff
He made a walking sim
he made a kino first person puzzle game that filters brainlets: the witness
AIN'T NO POINT TO THE GAME homie
MARIO IN A BUSINESS SUIT
WHOOOOOOOOP
https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Blow/status/1727470531757089060
https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Blow/status/1688994737045258240
https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Blow/status/1776783290847912018
Well he's a chud. How disappointing.
Just frick off troony homosexuals, you will never be accepted.
why is it that every giant moron online always ends up a republican
>that last tweet
>the last tweet
just bought 5 copies of braid, and im not even a chud / altright (I have a high IQ which means a greater predisposition to left-leaning ideologies), just tired of hugbox babies
>insults pronouns morons
alright, he's not so bad
I didn’t know there was actually a guy named “Jonathan Blow”, I thought it was a funny name someone made up
I will be buying Braid Anniversary, I've never played the original before.
it has some of the best puzzles you can find in vidya if my ~15 yo self is to be believed
I think I’ll like it. Puzzles and platforming sounds good to me. And $20 is fine. These indie buttholes charging $30+ for their unreal creator games make me lol
He should have replied to Tim Rogers' emails.
>we are now broke
Just now? he has released two games: Braid (2008) and The Witness (2016), he doesn't strike me as the type who would work a normal job at a grocery store or office, so what the hell has he been living from all these years?
he has a small team and he made money from his those two games, and he probably doesnt spend much. whats not to get?
>he has a small team
So part of the money goes to paying those people, less for him.
>and he made money from his those two games, and he probably doesnt spend much
They weren't Minecraft, he could not have possibly made enough money to live 8 years till 2016 and then 8 again till 2024 just from the sales of two games.
I'mma download the looker
i never knew that jblow was the witness guy which makes the looker even more funny kek
holy fricking shit dude just use AI or even google translate like damn how fricking dumb can you be
translate what?
It's not a fricking visual novel, it's a 2d platformer.
read the thread, there were apparently 60+ hours of commentary he made that got condensed down to 15+ hours which still needed to be translated into every language
moronic
in handsight it seems obvious but he prolly didnt realize until too late and he's too much of an autist to cheap out on translation (which is based)
braid was mid. I will not be buying the remake
SOULJA WON
hes pissed away so much money on this stupid sokoban game and it doesnt even look interesting. who the frick looks at chips challenge and thinks "Oh frick yes, Im going to spend a few million dollars making this game in my own proprietary coding language"
it's just the tech demo of the language. he is making it for public use as well as his actual big next game
>public use
he hates open source so its all pointless. Hypothetically lets say Jai takes off, what does that look like? thousands of people personally messaging Jon everytime a question comes up? frick that, Ill just use whatever high or low level language Im already used to
he said he's spent 20M for the sokoban+jai development the past 8 years and only around 2M were for jai
did he really got THAT rich with Braid and then The Witness? Anyway no wonder why he's broke now
all the money from braid went into the witness but he recouped it in a week idk if he got 20M with the witness or if he has an investor helping him for the sokoban he set an early 2025 deadline for it
hes been saying hes running out of money for a while the sokoban was supposed to be a small tech demo for jai
Jonathan Blow is a massive douchebag.
Source: I was working in the gaming media when Braid came out. Guy is a talentless asshat and everyone knows it.
You got filtered by Braid.
>I was working in the gaming media when Braid came out. Guy is a talentless asshat and everyone knows it.
You're the talentless hack, moron, and neither your nor your ex-colleagues' opinions are worth a shit
I've already bought it tho
You know modern indie devs might all be literal fricking homosexuals but I'm glad the ones who make games that end up being popular have mostly moved past being people like Johnathan Blow or Phil Fish.
Phil Fish hasn't released anything for 8 years. The most recent thing he did was delist Fez on GOG.com after they posted that Postal GIF mocking game journalism.
lol still a lolcow after all these years
It's time to move on, anon.
Ah, God bless EFGIS. That's why I could play so many games as a dumb Hispanic.
>200k words
That's alot of words... I ain't readin'em
I will not.
>hundreds of thousands on translations
sounds like they're fricking morons who listened to Twitter heads and hired some c**t face that charged them three figures an hour to copy paste into bablefish
Braid is a very mediocre game and was only successful at its release because it was considered one of the most polished indie games. That should tell you a lot about the state of the indie games scene during the 360/PS3 era.
Someone help me balance this budget:
>Redoing the art assets: 10,000$
>Readjusting the physics: 10,000$
>Hiring hundreds of translators to rewrite the game in languages of people who won't play the game anyways: 500,000$
>Adding more voice lines: 10,000$
My studio is going bankrupt, please help.
EFGIS (English, French, German, Italian, Spanish) is really standard, tho.
Yes and obviously all of them are paid 50k per 10 thousand words.
Nevermind, I'm a moron.
>game is self-published
>some dubious publishing partner asked for that many languages
Something is fishy...
console ports dummy
No mention to any publisher here either.
I appreciate that Jon Blow is most know for two things: crying in a dark room after getting BTFO by Soulja Boy and his shitty line puzzle game getting absolutely fricking mogged by The Looker.
On what planet does it cost that much to translate?
>remaster
How about no, have a nice day and die
Convince me braid isnt shovelware
it's actual garbage. i don't get the appeal
It's a cool puzzle adventure
>conveniently ignoring the fact that it's a 2d platformer
John selling Blow
Why didn't he just use an AI translation program?