The SteamDeck at 5 million units is a bigger threat that Xbox Series 21 million because Valve isn't run by morons. Total Xbox console brand collapse in real time is happening btw.
what do you want her to say. She doesn't give a shit and shes not making the choices. Why do so many people care about shitty studios getting shutdown anyway. You'll have to plenty of slop to consume little piggies.
what the frick do you think her job is? the job of the boss is to act like she knows what she's doing but she can't even manage that, it does not inspire confidence
it's simple, she's giving the runaround because the real reason sounds so goddamn bad to say out loud her team just told her to say a bunch of nothing instead
>the problem is in the picture already
Yeah but she's a black woman which means nobody in the media is going to point a finger at her. They'll just keep blaming Phil because it's easier to feed the narrative that way.
>Xbox President Sarah Bond
Wait what happened to Phil, did they fire him?
He's still there, he's CEO not president, but that Sarah Bond lady in the OP is from Microsoft Gaming, not Xbox but basically the highest level of Microwiener that deals with video games, and they planted her into Xbox to essentially take over for Phil. It's clear that either her or her puppet masters at Microwiener are the ones behind all the bad news of late and it's yet another example of corporate suits only looking at numbers and deleting the lowest values to bump up their financial median.
what do you want her to say. She doesn't give a shit and shes not making the choices. Why do so many people care about shitty studios getting shutdown anyway. You'll have to plenty of slop to consume little piggies.
First Helldivers, then this. The past week has been great.
lol worthless b***h has no idea what even goes on in the company she works for
It's funny how butthurt people are over these studio closures, but apparently they weren't excited enough to buy their games.
What she said was fine. It's a non-answer: something that sounds like she's answering the question, but not really. The studios were closed because they think doing so will help them achieve their long-term business objectives -- no shit.
Wasn't there news that they were closed because they were pitching games which were years away from completion? In a business environment where you expect flat or falling revenues and the cost to loan money is high for the foreseeable future, it makes sense to close down parts of the business which don't drive significant revenues. Why carry that risk in a rough economy?
I've been a part of something which was shut down due to a merger happening. It sucks, but it happens in all industries.
I'm hearing conflicting reports now, apparently when Shinji left he took most of the staff with him to his new studio. Phil and Sarah could've just said that but I think they don't want bad blood between Shinji.
Mikami had nothing to do with Hi-Fi Rush. The Tango game he was most involved in (Evil Within 1) was a disaster. He obviously wasn’t needed.
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>Mikami had nothing to do with Hi-Fi Rush.
What's that got to do with anything? The fact is he took all of the old guard with him just like Stefton Hill did with Rocksteady
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NTA but you implied the studio was dead specifically because Mikami had left.
Mikami doesn't make games, hasn't done for over a decade....
that was a pretty weak deflection. I'm surprised. it's like the sort of half assed answer you see after a 'just wing it' sort of presentation that people do in school.
this is like the Sony Interactive CEO going to London Studio and taking picture with all the devs ONLY FOR HIM to fire them all and close down the studio like two weeks later HAHAHAHHAH AHHA HA HA
I dont know what worse optics vise , that literal president of Xbox didnt know one of her studios is being shut down , cuz shes just a worthless front facing DEI hire dumb b***h
or that shes a soulless prostitute who tweeted this knowing whats coming
or you know, the most valid reason, Satya Nadella went above rank and file and ordered the studios to be closed to protect profits, which forced Spencer, Sarah Bond and Matt Booty to run defense for and try to spit out some BS about how it was spread too thin.
It's well documented that Satya Nadella doesn't give a shit about Xbox
Phil Spencer's Gamertag has been spotted playing Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 as the Xbox console brand burns to the ground. Sarah Bond's taking the beating in his place, that's a sacrifice he's willing to live with.
Yeah but she's a black woman which means nobody in the media is going to point a finger at her. They'll just keep blaming Phil because it's easier to feed the narrative that way.
I doubt it's not him, every game that's on his xbox account refers to his taste. He even alludes to it like saying I completed brothers game, vampire survivors and his profile does say so. He also started shilling brotato after he played it, timeline checks out
>Phil Spencer's Gamertag has been spotted playing Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 as the Xbox console brand burns to the ground.
People nuked his camp in F76 kek
What do people expect from another genius harvard business nigg who went straight into a fortune 500 company and became partner after 2 years? Good luck to anyone trying to shit on her cause thats not gonna happen.
Because the market matured. Or “matured” may be a better rendering. Passion on a project is almost invariably inversely proportionate to the number of people involved in a corporate environment. Once companies get this large they become committees that only think in numbers and (more recently) colors, and passion can be neither accurately quantified or exchanged directly for a monetary value.
In other words, rule of thumbs is:
small company = “we really want to make a new and inventive product, and it would be awesome if we hit the bug bucks doing it.”
large company = “we really want to be the sole supplier of this product and grow endlessly, and it would be awesome if we are able to make a good product along the way.”
>and it would be awesome if we are able to make a good product along the way.
They'd prefer to release mediocre products and make customers used to them instead of high quality ones that raise standards. It's cheaper that way.
Massive organizations always get filled with people who are good at advancing and surviving in massive organisations, not in fulfilling the organization's actual goals
>put woman in charge >company revives from slump and succeeds big time
Sarah Bond is just a diversity fascismile for muttbox, she isn't doing anything. the failure of muttbox is his alone.
I took Japanese in uni for an IB major and there was this guy that sounded like this and just would not quit. He always scraped by until he failed out like two years in. I felt bad for him, he was really bad at talking to anyone during exercises.
If you have to do interviews on bloomberg talking about video games, you've already lost and are completely tone deaf and incompetent
The golden age of video games was more than 25 years ago and the studios never had to do or engage in humiliation rituals like this
They're not getting those billions either, modern companies don't give a shit about naturally cultivating a consumer base/community and growing it slowly and sustainably and that's why all their shit products fail.
They don't appeal to anybody
And if that was really the true why the frick is shit like State of Decay still alive?
Going to take longer than that, but I don't see the division lasting longer than 6-10 years.
They'll keep the brand, but the division will be ravaged by Microsoft with most people getting the boot.
I just don't want to believe that people in such a high position are truly this stupid.
It has to be sabotage, they must be getting paid by someone to frick up Microsoft, it's far too insane.
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>I just don't want to believe that people in such a high position are truly this stupid.
Anon, they're not there because they are good at their job, they are there because they kiss ass, swindle and have connections.
That's how it works in the USA and in many parts of Europe.
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It's just so gross to me, they're fricking with peoples lives
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Welcome to the corporate world, the biggest sociopathic lying piece of shit wins!
It's funny how butthurt people are over these studio closures, but apparently they weren't excited enough to buy their games.
What she said was fine. It's a non-answer: something that sounds like she's answering the question, but not really. The studios were closed because they think doing so will help them achieve their long-term business objectives -- no shit.
Wasn't there news that they were closed because they were pitching games which were years away from completion? In a business environment where you expect flat or falling revenues and the cost to loan money is high for the foreseeable future, it makes sense to close down parts of the business which don't drive significant revenues. Why carry that risk in a rough economy?
I've been a part of something which was shut down due to a merger happening. It sucks, but it happens in all industries.
Bethesda has been integrated with Xbox for over 3 years now, this isn’t cutting the chaff of a new merger. Microsoft just isn’t interested in games that’ll make less money than a fallout 3 remaster. These are the decisions of people who don’t understand this medium and what makes a platform appealing.
>long-term business objectives
What you're not seeing is opportunity cost to keep these studios alive. Look at the top sellers list from last year, like a third of the list are Microsoft properties. In an economic outlook where people are buying fewer games for the next few years, it makes sense to redirect money from lower performing things into higher performing things. Instead of $xxMM for whatever, they can spend it on something that will have a bigger return like a TES, Starfield, etc.
It reminds me of when Ford decided to cease production of passenger cars. I don't like trucks, and SUVs so I didn't like the decision. But there's an opportunity cost with having production line dedicated to products which deliver middling returns, and they were right.
>It's funny how butthurt people are over these studio closures, but apparently they weren't excited enough to buy their games.
Nibba, for the last 2 was Phil Spencer was running around asking people to buy Game Pass if they want games like Hi-Fi Rush which is what people did.
The point is that people are more excited about the closure than anything they've ever made.
>but apparently they weren't excited enough to buy their games.
HFR was on gamepass, MS did a day-0 shadowdrop with no marketing, and supposedly it still performed well. So in this specific case I'm not sure what MS expected.
Bethesda has been integrated with Xbox for over 3 years now, this isn’t cutting the chaff of a new merger. Microsoft just isn’t interested in games that’ll make less money than a fallout 3 remaster. These are the decisions of people who don’t understand this medium and what makes a platform appealing.
>It's funny how butthurt people are over these studio closures, but apparently they weren't excited enough to buy their games.
Nibba, for the last 2 was Phil Spencer was running around asking people to buy Game Pass if they want games like Hi-Fi Rush which is what people did.
> Wasn't there news that they were closed because they were pitching games which were years away from completion?
How the frick are they expected to pump out a profitable game in a year? They just finished a massive project, and if it’s with regards to profitability MS dropped it on Gamepass day one, absolutely ensuring it would sell poorly. It’s obvious on its face to anyone vaguely familiar with the industry that saying they needed multiple years to make a game as the reason is equivalent to “unfortunately they made less then 95 on metacritic and this was why we had to chop them.” The brutal truth is, it was pure numbers and the committee looking at the numbers made no effort whatsoever to distinguish anything other than pure, hard numbers. Tango was unquantifiable because of MS’s decision, and though it was shitty they needed to make a hard decision and axed them.
Microsoft has a "spreadsheet manager" problem. MBAs who plug numbers into spreadsheet formulas all day and make decisions based on what it says. The MBA ideal is that they don't need to know or care what the company or division even DOES, you manage the numbers and make the right ones go up and the wrong ones go down and success is inevitable. It's a cult.
And so what do you do when you're an idiot MBA managing by spreadsheet and you have to balance a MASSIVE amount of red because you just acquired a bunch of supremely expensive companies? You close some of them. Which do you close? Normal people would say the ones that make bad games. But to an MBA "bad" and "good" are irrelevant. What counts is making number go up, and it doesn't matter that Tango had a sleeper hit and is brimming with talent, what matters is that the profit from the released game is divorced from the studio that made it, that's already on the balance sheet and will continue to be if TG exists or not. But accepting a pitch for a new game from them means the number keeps going DOWN until they are done and you can't have that. But if you sack them, liability number goes WAY down and that's good and these other studios have less liability which is better. Except they also have significantly less upside, but an MBA can't understand such concepts and they also can't understand what happens when you lose a whole bunch of talent. My spreadsheet doesn't have a "talent" column, so that's irrelevant.
>people want Fallout >Fallout 5 is a decade from completion >people want to see other countries in the Fallout universe >you have a Japanese studio that obviously knows Japan and its culture well and have experience making shooters and open worlds
Ordinarily I would say Fallout should remain a strictly America-centric franchise. But if Bethesda had the balls to attempt Fallout Japan, I would endorse it.
>apparently they weren't excited enough to buy their games
why the frick would I buy any xbox software when they themselves give them all away in a monthly $10 bundle?
I fricking hate how language works. she basically maneuvered around the question while saying nothing.
I'd have ten times more respect for her if she just said >No it doesn't work like that, what are you gonna do about it, b***h?
Because at least then it'd be an honest answer.
What's fricked up about this post is that it acknowledges she gave a non-answer and then guesses to why the studios were closed down.
Maybe she could've, idk, TOLD US WHY THEY WERE CLOSED DOWN?
What fricking long-term business objectives did she have in mind?
What goals weren't being reached?
What goals do they have in mind?
Why can Nintendo make putting out good games work but Microsoft can't?
>What's fricked up about this post is that it acknowledges she gave a non-answer and then guesses to why the studios were closed down.
I didn't guess, I just regurgitated something I had read. There's no upside to spilling all the details as to why they made the decision. Haven't you ever been in a situation where you didn't want to go into specifics about something but had say something?
>Haven't you ever been in a situation where you didn't want to go into specifics about something but had say something?
no, because I'm not a diversity hire golem doing the bidding of dishonest israelites.
this is how people feel about microsoft right now >they fricked up >they know they fricked up >they're not saying why >she just made it way worse by not saying how and why things went wrong.
's no upside to spilling all the details as to why they made the decision.
There is an up side in explaining what happened and where things went wrong because we know you know that you won't make the same mistakes.
because consider this.
What if she actually doesn't fricking know because she's incompetent?
>this is how people feel about microsoft right now
No one is going to care in six months, and no one will base their game purchases on whether or not Microsoft give a detailed explanation of why they closed a studio. Even if you got your explanation in the form of a 30 page dissertation, you'd just quibble with the assumptions, forecasting, numbers, reasoning, etc. That is why it is best not to say, it would go from arguing about the decision to arguing about the details and reasoning that lead to the decision.
>Wasn't there news that they were closed because they were pitching games which were years away from completion?
Do you have any idea how many years it takes to make a game? The Call of Duty formula where they have two different AAA studio-sized teams spending a mere 2 years on making a game is incredibly fast for the quality of product they're able to shit out.
>The Call of Duty formula where they have two different AAA studio-sized teams
They have 4 AAA studios (some with multiple teams) working on CoD to release that fast:
Infinity Ward
Treyarch
Raven
Sledgehammer
It still makes no sense. They had output. Ghostwire: Tokyo did pretty well on the PS5 and they followed right up with Hi Fi Rush. That right there shows they were efficient and well managed.
Compare that to The Initiative who never came up with a product, InExile that has a first-person game that looks like shit, Southern Midnight that nobody knows what the frick is even about, and Everwild that no one knows what the frick is about either.
They complained about a lack of output from 2022 and 2023. They were given an actual fricking product that had zero marketing at all and they now have the ability to deliver on two additional platforms, one is going to be brand new and a great market for it.
It makes no sense at all. Zero.
They supposedly had no games in development, which is a very strong indicator of mismanagement, being their AAA team has been free since 2022.
>What she said was fine. It's a non-answer: something that sounds like she's answering the question, but not really.
That's not fine.
That's what slimy politicians do.
And we fricking crucify them for it.
>That's what slimy politicians do.
First of all, normal people do it all the time. >How's it going? >Fine.
It would be inappropriate to say the full truth: >A bit tired to honest, I have this foot fungus and I was up all night scratching my feet. I'm a bit worried though, my butt is starting to itch and I think the fungus may have spread.
so people just say 'Fine'. There's nothing wrong with it.
Second, there's an issue of whether or not the person asking the question is actually entitled to an answer. If your boss is asking you about some work item, you have an obligation to answer truthfully. If your boss is asking about the outcome of some medical exam you just had, you have no obligation to answer fully, truthfully, or all. She has no obligation to give some detailed explanation as how they came to their decision to close a studio.
The studios closed because Xbox hired a
1. Woman
2. Dindu
To run the business. Neither of these things can do anything of value. Business is now dysfunctional and failing. Hence closures.
>but apparently they weren't excited enough to buy their games.
Every metric about Hi Fi Rush says it sold millions and was extremely profitable.
https://www.gamesradar.com/xbox-says-hi-fi-rush-was-a-success-in-all-key-measurements-amid-rumors-of-poor-sales/
They even came out and dispelled rumors that it 'bombed'.
So what, I'm not supposed to believe Xbox anymore?
>Wasn't there news that they were closed because they were pitching games which were years away from completion?
isn't this the case for every small studio that literally just released a game?
You fricking moron.
Tango actually made them a profit but they did not line up with their diversity bullshit agenda.
This is why people are so fricking angry.
It would had objectively made more if not for the fricking Goypass.
343i is factually a heavier financial burden than any other studio except for Arkane which was not even MS when Redfall began production.
Practically women have this highschool mindset where they only see their friends and everyone else is invisible or against them. Women should not be in charge of anything.
>Why carry that risk in a rough economy?
This mindset has led to stagnation which in turn has been imploding companies for decades. People back then were starting up companies and entering the fray with new ideas and actual innovation, not for the sake of social progression and diversification, after the great depression and became the goliaths that are today. Unless these companies stop with their safe spaces with remakes, remasters, and rehashes, more companies will close.
>Wasn't there news that they were closed because they were pitching games which were years away from completion?
Anon, how the frick do you think products are made? Before you can sell a thing you have to actually make the thing. No shit their games would be years away from completion, because they had just shipped one game and would need time to make another. >it makes sense to close down parts of the business which don't drive significant revenues.
MS themselves said Hi-Fi Rush was a breakout hit by every metric. Are you calling MS execs a bunch of filthy liars now? >Why carry that risk in a rough economy?
We're talking about the RICHEST COMPANY ON EARTH. This isn't some struggling publisher up to their neck in debt. MS is literally the last company on the planet that can whine about """"rough economy"""".
It's infuriating because said rough financials were literally by design from Microsoft's choices. They set these companies up to fail and then had the gall to let them keep going for several months as if a closure wasn't going to happen.
>Twitter makes memes that Ganker now reuses rather than the other way around
The day has come. After Xbox shitting itself this hard, PlayStation shitting itself as hard as it has, Ganker decisively shitter than it has ever been and no end in sight of their declines (among other things), it's time to start accepting I've wasted valuable years of my life trying to "hold on" with this industry that has gone to shit.
There are decades worth of good movies to get through from around the world. If you stopped watching anything besides old movies, there are still enough to fill a lifetime of at least a different one every day until you die.
What’s even more baffling is they just released it digitally for ps5, and limited run games still has physical editions for both consoles on the way. They didn’t even give it a chance. Every game needs a ton of microtransactions and games as a service model or it’s a waste of time for these clueless execs.
>They didn’t even give it a chance.
Is it really that hard for modern game publishers to just wait it out a little bit when it comes to cultivating new IPs? I mean most popular games didn't end up popular right away (GTA, Dark Souls, Metal Gear).
the industry has just gotten too bloated. A game like Baltaro or Lethal company made by like 1-10 dudes can sell as much as a halo game.
They have such high expectations that no studio can truly compete with one hit wonders.
Microsoft spent over $100 billion because they’re incapable of cultivating studios and IP themselves. Every studio they buy they inevitably frick up. Every new studio they create is a disaster. Microsoft is run by clowns but somehow kept afloat by bloated government and military contracts. These people making billion dollar decisions really are just clueless about what they’re doing.
who cares they are meeting meat suit buffers that sit in meeting all day, real xbox is r&d division, and they don't care about games in themselves, they are just conduit to test their r&d. It's why og xbox games where shipped with a fricking virtual machine that runs instead of just running on xbox itself.
How hard is it to say: >Tango was a great studio but unfortunately none of their games have been a massive success for us. Game development costs are ballooning, margins are tight and we need to focus our resources on the brands that we know gamers want.
1) It's better than literal word salad
2) It's 100% true. Hi Fi Rush cost millions to bring in millions. Call of Duty, Fallout, Elder Scrolls, etc costs millions to bring in billions. These are franchises that will move units. Niche Jap games aren't worth the time and money investment.
Call of Duty, Fallout, Elder Scrolls cost them $85 billion.
They will never make that money back, or sell as much as pic related, because they refuse to cultivate talent. Going all in on AAA and nothing else is a losing strategy.
>because they refuse to cultivate talent.
Exactly. Nobody is asking them to innovate CoD, But even to just sustain IP and keep it alive you need talented people these days.
Under Microsoft CoD has 10 years tops, then it will be forgotten by a large public like Halo and only a niche audience will remember and care about it.
The most shocking thing is that everyone in 343 still have their jobs despite Halo Infinite flopping HARD. Microsoft spend $500 on a game that still feels like an Early Access 3 years later
everyone in the campaign team and a lot of the managements got kicked out of the studio. A portion of the multiplayer team and third party studio are handling the cosmetic and frameworks of the game. With the recent news of Microsoft being a shitty company, Im fricking annoyed of all the 343 shills pushing the narrative that its all microsoft's fault. YES its ALSO their fault, everyone knows that if you weren't a mouth breathing moron. 343 is also responsible for many of the troubled development and stupid changes. You're telling me Microsoft forced 343 to make the Ravager unusable for 6 months?
remember ghostwire tokyo? it came out and it bombed so they stopped paying for denuvo then a DLC released and they paid for denuvo on the DLC of a dead game
This is the game that killed steam for me. That a company can just release a DRM infested patch and I get no say in the matter means that was the last non-indie game I ever buy from steam. Hell, it even puts me off the indies. If it's not on GoG it's a hard sell to me now. Well done Gaben, I expect idiotic shit from Zenimax and Microsoft but from you? Disappointed.
Im sure they will miss your business and probably go bankrupt because of it. None of this matters. In 1000 years we will all be dead and it won't matter if there were black or trans people in video games.
I will never, ever understand why people shat on this game. I've finished it recently and it's a solid 8/10 - mostly due to good sidequests and gameplay.
Because it's first person, I'm not joking, there is a high percentage of players who refuse to play them. This is why all Sony games are in third person and even when there is first person they offer the third person option.
It have a crappy section to the final boss and the powers are the end are the shinji michamis resident evil weapons "changed" you even have a sneak section with bow like far cry, also yokais are just weeb slenderman and shiet
Remember how the english translation of this game inserted communist rhetoric
where was all the angry supposedly conservative news media then, you have an actual fricking outrage yet for games they keep getting upset about stupid bullshit instead
>where was all the angry supposedly conservative news media then
They probably didnt know about it cause who the frick plays these in english? I actually played the game and knew nothing about this cause why would I play it in english.
Xbox never care about videogames, just making money copy the most popular formulas and tried other studios port games.
Another videogame market is Windows, Windows care about run videogames to sell more PC with windows and market share.
Gamepass change the dynamic to get the biggest amount gamepass users and now Xbox with other acquisitions change to prefer massive games on gamepass with massive replayer or hours played per gamer.
>now Xbox with other acquisitions change to prefer massive games on gamepass with massive replayer or hours played per gamer.
Why CoD isnt on the Game Pass then?
>Todd really fricking dropped the ball with that space game but we can't get rid of him after paying all that money so we have to scuttle other studios and hope he does better next time
What are the chances that Microsoft leaves the gaming market completely? Not saying I want that, but given the current economic downturn wouldn't it make sense?
You're delusional if you thiunk they're gonna leave gaming when they just acquired cash cows like King and CoD. They could just sit there, kick back and count the profits if they want. Downsizing is the best you could count on.
>They could just sit there, kick back and count the profits if they want.
That's all microsoft does these days. It's been nearly 2 decades since microsoft had a total lock on business software and they've been bleeding customers ever since and yet they consistently make frickloads of profit. How? Because they understand that their locked-in customers are locked in for the long haul and have been raping them on license costs. Per core, per socket licensing, ever increasing "pro" and "enterprise" license costs, Client Access Licenses ffs, subscriptions, cloud bullshit... It's making them plenty of cash, but they are pulling in more and more from fewer and fewer people and every price hike is another company that says frick it, we're going google docs and open source. Just growing fat off CoD and mobile shit doesn't last forever either, they needed NEW revenue streams that GROW in customer base and all they've achieved is ANOTHER high profit but dwindling clientele set of companies. Sure, today's buttholes-in-charge won't mind all the money coming in, and I'm sure they've gamed the bonus strategy to ensure their failure leads to big stacks of cash anyway, but failing is still failing, even if it takes another 5 years.
the reason ms won't sell anytime soon is precisely because they massively overpaid for activision (and bethesda) and will never recover what they spent by putting them back on the market. activision was already the biggest independent game publisher, there's no other that can afford to buy them. and though ms could shop them to other conglomerates looking for entry into the game industry (amazon), it'll likely be years before they're in the mood to buy something like that, and they aren't going to pay the premium that ms did. ms can't sell now even if they wanted to. the brands are depreciating by the day but they're still better off holding them until capital investment returns.
Next to no chance at all. They'll be out of the console market after next gen, but Xbox isn't going anywhere. Not with Xbox being on basically everything, Gamepass as much as people here don't care for it, Xcloud, and other things.
I could see them leaving the console market. If they do make a new console, I'd see it leaning more into the all-in-1 home entertainment fricking thing with download only.
Based on the current situation I'd reckon they'll just move on to the mobile gaming ecosystem instead because that's the REAL money as far as gaming market is concerned.
Netflix has games already so it seems like they want to hit the streaming game market first. Think about it being able to access your games on your tv, laptop, phone, maybe even switch since Microsoft and Nintendo seem so buddy buddy
They already did, Sony has done it as well.
Streaming is a meme, even on Movies/TV, fracturing all the shows in different streaming services due to every company rushing for gold has ironically killed it.
That's not their venue of approach, they're just going full multiplat GAAS.
Microsoft management doesn't know what it's doing. Microsoft's game publishing side in particular have always been complete morons allowing conmen to grift a shitload of money out of M$'s pockets, who have so much money they can afford to just set it on fire. I still remember when Brad was pumping them for money promising Vanguard would run on Xbox360 when that piece of shit barely even ran at all.
The overlap between gaming passion and business acumen is probably smaller than you think it is. I hate suits as much as anyone else here, but let devs be devs.
Just saw the clip. She didn’t even answer the question. So as an outsider (since idk this lady or play Xbox) they shut down a development stupid that made a good game and gave no explanation as to why. Seems shitty
You have nothing to blame but yourselves. You couldn't help yourself, you couldn't keep your hands off the western slop, but you just had to buy it because of FOMO. Dumb Black folk.
On the bright side, I hope all this dumb shit gets worse. The western vidya industry really needs to die so it can be reborn.
Isn't this type of shit kinda normal after a massive acquisition? Microsoft spent billions to buy so many companies and now they are gonna cut off the fat and shut down the studios that are not making money. Seems pretty normal and business as usual to me, even if it sucks balls for the people working there.
not when they do it right before announcing a massive new project, fricking it over and ensuring the newscycle for it will only be negative and the press will only ask questions like the OP
Makes it seem like the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing
streaming games doesn't work since US internet is absolute shit for 99% of the country. they keep throwing that turd at the wall and it keeps sliding right off.
Most of them probably moved on with Shinji Mikami already in his new studio. Either that or they're getting poached by Nintendo in their current company expansion.
When you drop 80 Billion dollars acquiring one of your biggest competitors, you have to start making money ASAP. This means firing huge amounts of people to save on payroll and only pumping out guaranteed money makers for as little effort as possible.
>Implying they can
Even if the governmment would let them (which they wouldn't due to the latest shitshow),even if Take2 said yes, (which they wouldn't since executives get to keep everything for themselves with no daddy Microsoft to threaten them), the amount would be so absurdly large due to the amount of people and assets in Take2 and Rockstar along with the value alone of GTA that even Microsoft would never be able to pay that shit.
Dumb PR b***h, can clearly see how properly she was trained in mouthing off verbal diarrhea in order to provide as little insight or knowledge as possible. Fits in with Microsoft.
They made a mistake with Tango. From the beginning, I always thought they weren't a fit for the Xbox portfolio. The Evil Within and Ghostwire: Tokyo aren't games people in the Xbox market are interested in but they had a huge potential money maker with the Hi Fi Rush IP. I'm guessing PS5 sales weren't good enough and they thought it didn't have potential but that was their frick up for a late-stage release with little marketing.
They could have had Hi Fi Rush 2 developed for the Series, PS5, and Nintendo Switch 2. You've got the PS5's Dualsense and Switch 2's HD rumble ready to go. You've got a well liked IP and one of their only internal studios that actually to make a game at all.
Maybe all the licensed tracks made the game much more expensive than it looked. Who knows. It's a game worth getting on the disc because once the license for the songs are up, it's gone.
What do you expect? Tango Gameworks was a Japanese dev studio under western management, of course it's gonna be the first on the chopping block, that's all there is to it for them. Doesn't matter how well or not well the game did or was received. Which is even more ironic because a lot of what held the game back was the modern safe and diverse western cartoon slop visual design that you can bet wasn't a art direction the studio pushed for. What was likely the studio was the yjk cat bot that slipped past and is the only thing that occasionally still comes up about that game.
It still makes no sense. They had output. Ghostwire: Tokyo did pretty well on the PS5 and they followed right up with Hi Fi Rush. That right there shows they were efficient and well managed.
Compare that to The Initiative who never came up with a product, InExile that has a first-person game that looks like shit, Southern Midnight that nobody knows what the frick is even about, and Everwild that no one knows what the frick is about either.
They complained about a lack of output from 2022 and 2023. They were given an actual fricking product that had zero marketing at all and they now have the ability to deliver on two additional platforms, one is going to be brand new and a great market for it.
It makes all the sense when you consider that Microsoft is a gigantic company and that HiFi Rush was a mere moderate success with no long term MTX monetization attached to it.
They couldn't give less of a shit how much talent or potential the company had, they can't quanitify that and the company won't give them Bethesda/COD/King money so they're cutting the fat.
Apparently the way Microsoft is firing/dismantling studios is "how long is it until their next game", and whether or not they're a core studio. As in most Call of Duty studios are core, Blizzard studios are core, Forza is core, and Halo is core (but even then they shitcanned all the 343i leads).
Tangoworks just finished Hi-Fi Rush last year, and was likely just starting Hi-Fi Rush 2 around now. Meaning nothing would come out of the studio for 3 years, maybe 4.
Ninja Theory is absolutely fricked when Hellblade 2 releases lmao
Arkane Austin (aka the live service Arkane studio) was still working on Redfall content so no real game in the wing, Tangoworks has nothing on the immediate horizon after Ghostwire Tokyo and Hi-Fi Rush, Alpha Dog studios was just mobileslop and they'll have King for that going forward, and the last one in the current wave is being absorbed since they were a support studio anyway.
How was tango a successful studio?
Not him but Microsoft readily admits when shit flops, look up all the apologies for Redfall blowing or Halo Infinite sucking wieners. They were 100% adamant that Hi-Fi rush got a hefty influx on Game Pass despite less direct sales.
It did well. They want games like that that win awards and critical acclaim to keep people subbed on game pass.
https://www.ign.com/articles/xbox-exec-reportedly-told-staff-we-need-smaller-games-that-give-us-prestige-and-awards-a-day-after-shutting-down-hi-fi-rush-dev-tango-gameworks
It obviously didn't do well seeing how they shut tango down.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
They shut it down because they can't produce another one for 3 to 4 years, and Microsoft wants them to cut spending NOW.
They're basically pawning all their assets to pay for the mortgage now that daddy Microsoft is cutting off the blank checks after the Activision sale, lmao
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
That makes sense, carry on.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why do you believe in made up shit said on the internet? Arkane also got shuttered, most likely because of redfall, why would you think the same thing wouldn't happen to tango?
>an article talking about another article
Great source anon.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
https://www.ign.com/articles/xbox-exec-reportedly-told-staff-we-need-smaller-games-that-give-us-prestige-and-awards-a-day-after-shutting-down-hi-fi-rush-dev-tango-gameworks
no prob
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Continually posting the article will not change the fact hi fi rush was a financial failure.
how do they manage to make even this about the race , and then they project white people do the ingroup shit while discriminating everyone else , what a load of projecting Black folk
Don't stop there, you got Double Fine and Compulsion Games too. Their best hope is to get a deal ala Toys for Bob, no way they fit into whatever Microsoft's new plan is for studios going forwards
I know, right? I don't even know what they're working on after Psychonauts 2, would've figured they would be first in line for something like this purely for being a San Fran studio. Can't be cheap to keep them around
Don't stop there, you got Double Fine and Compulsion Games too. Their best hope is to get a deal ala Toys for Bob, no way they fit into whatever Microsoft's new plan is for studios going forwards
>Compulsion Games
I have no idea what that is, but add MachineGames to the list.
Compulsion are the We Happy Few guys which Microsoft picked up to be one of the 'Smaller games that win awards' guys for gamepass and, well, we saw how well that worked out.
Their next game is South of Midnight, which'll be lucky if it does anywhere near Hi-Fi Rush.
I hope the devs there are able to get work, they're one of the teams that did put out decent games.
I actually bought Hi-Fi Rush after pirating and trying it, because I enjoyed the shit out of the game. It was honestly just refreshingly fun and it's a shame to see that work go up in smoke.
You guys think with enough backlash, it's possible for them to reverse the decision to close down the studios? At the very least reverse killing Tango?
No way, as far as they're concerned, Tango is the sole outsider considering they're the only Jap studio Microsoft Gaming has, hence it's easy to gut them.
It's easy mate >zero percent interest rates for a decade >big companies borrow a bunch of free money >buy out every studio and company they can >if it doesn't work out it doesn't matter because not paying interest, i.e., no consequences for dumb choices >inflation hits like a mf >suddenly all the free money ain't so free anymore >firesale or shutdown all the poor investments from before, destroying small companies, keeping IPs, and leaving no competitors
tl;dr Ron Paul was right, blame the Fed
She reports to Phil Spencer, he is her superior in the hierarchy. Despite the fact that Phil is far more responsible for the state of Xbox than Sarah is, people defend Phil and come up with all kinds of excuses to cover for his ass because he isn't a black woman.
There is no point and you are not human. More insightful exchanges can be had with a decade old bot.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're just repeating yourself and projecting like a schizophrenic despite not having a point
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You won't even make it to 30s, flesh pile animated by propaganda.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You haven't been correct even once in this thread. It's impressive how moronic you are.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You can spasm and scream and shit yourself even harder than you normally do, not even on the internet you hold any power. You have failed in every regard, you are alone because you deserve it.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
were you cut off from oxygen during an extended period during birth
why anyone gives microsoft (or snoy or EA etc) money is beyond me. even if it's "for the devs", their studio clearly will get shut down either way so why reward shitty publisher behaviour
Shit devs made shit games nobody cared about and got fired. That's it. That's the story. You can all stop pretending to care now. >bb-b-b-b-but my favorite youtuber like this ultra-shitty niche title, Xbox should have carried this deadweight title forever durrhurr
She's the culture that killed gaming for the past decade, I will not feel sorry for a Black person executive that doesn't care about games let alone is being paid to produce communist propaganda and gender politics mental illness to destroy and brainwash children
Xbox is in a Schrödinger's cat paradox. Microsoft can’t view Xbox as this small division of gaming dudebros anymore. It's bigger than Windows revenue post Activision-Blizzard now. But with all the changes it just became Neo Activision with Microsoft Studios subsidiaries asterisk and a vanity niche console that's a net loss every year. So in a way Xbox brand being alive is pointless because what exists today is not even Xbox anymore.
Nearly 300 posts and only one person mentioned Hellblade 2. An Xbox console exclusive dropping in 2 weeks. Y'all better buy it to save NinjaTheory from the fate of Tango.
>Zero marketing whatsoever aside from one tweet from Xbox with the game 2 weeks away >'smaller games that win awards' meme >their founder already bailed like Molyneux did before Lionhead got put down
death flags everywhere, it's kind of sad
Beyond fricked. Xhomos generally expect more gameplay than snoys do.
How fricked is Ninja Theory Ganker? Their game is going to flop obv.
>Cavewoman autistic walking sim (really not a hyperbole)
Xbox has a small playerbase that's closer to GameCube and Xbox classic with even fewer people who buy games. The core demographic are male sports fans. NinjaTheory has 6 months before closure when Hellblade 2 flops.
At least Enslaved Odyssey to the West is a nice coomer game. They left this world on a good mark.
This really makes me wonder about the other studios. MDHR who did Cuphead are owned by Microsoft and obviousely they have some big ambitons. Plus other stuidos like Double Fine who have horrible track records somehow are still alive and seem to have not even a toe in the pool.
I unironically hope 343 is next. Frick 'em. I don't care if it means there won't be any more Halo. At least it can rest in peace and never be shat over again. 343 doesn't deserve to stay operational.
>What happened
Xbox was ran by vindictive morons that wanted to buy Publishers to "Buy Sony out of the industry" and convinced the overheaded Microsoft to fund this buyout under the guys that it was going to cause a massive surge in Xbox players
Lowe and behold, not only did the news in 2022 not cause a surge of players, Microsoft would see a decrease of revenue from gaming over the following year and Warzone would go from chart topper to flopper as the covid restrictions and lockdown stopped, so the huge gold rush of venture capital buying out gaming became a shitshow of companies having to cut costs because they weren't going to be money printers like they expected
Now Microsoft panicked and killed multiple studios, likely they thought it would be good to kill Tango because it was a Japanese team despite producing the most popular Xbox game in a decade
nah just your mom after I bust a fat nut on her face and your dad has to lick it off
here's four more making it about race like a b***h
Sure Parkin, clap harder to the next gorilla you see, that'll save you.
Its one thing to put DEI into art and customer service roles, everyone does that for the tax benefits.
But putting a diversity hire in charge is fricking moronic.
>the head of the divsion doesn't have anything to do with the division.
Holy DEI batman
You and the rest of the media just keep blaming Phil because it's easier to feed the narrative that way. She's a black woman which means nobody in the media is going to point a finger at her
Here's why the studios were shut down >Game Pass kills sales >the Activision acquisition left Xbox with a financial hole
Literally killed so that we could get more CoDshit and Blizzardshit. You happy Ganker?
>Xbox promises that CoD won't be released on a yearly basis anymore >Xbox getting fricked up >Now CoD is back to square one
Lmao they didn't even manage to get the ball rolling on that
there is also the possibility they expected all these studios to become support studios FOR cawadoody so it would become M$' Fortnite, but they said no and pitched for something new.
Can't you read buddy? CoD won't go anywhere. Have you seen What Activision did to the franchise? Nothing but shit games and shit updates and it's still too big to fail.
Microsoft will fricking run CoD into the ground like they did with Halo, the devs are already on their last legs and no one wants to make the 2025 release, Microsoft is still debating to either release an entire new Game Pass tier or not release CoD on game pass at all because the revenue loss of not selling a new $70 CoD would be an insane revenue loss and so Microsoft is either going to release a broken CoD made by temp workers or break the yearly cycle
former Microsoft PR manager
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Can't you read buddy? CoD won't go anywhere. Have you seen What Activision did to the franchise? Nothing but shit games and shit updates and it's still too big to fail.
Does this motherfricker think redfall could've been good?
Does Microsoft?
Because Arkane devs literally BEGGED Microsoft to cancel Redfall. It began development way before the acquisition so that Bethesda could have a fashionable Live Service game in a portfolio to sell itself for more.
Microsoft just wanted a Game Pass fodder so they didn't care and told them to continue the development. The rest is history.
Microsoft will fricking run CoD into the ground like they did with Halo, the devs are already on their last legs and no one wants to make the 2025 release, Microsoft is still debating to either release an entire new Game Pass tier or not release CoD on game pass at all because the revenue loss of not selling a new $70 CoD would be an insane revenue loss and so Microsoft is either going to release a broken CoD made by temp workers or break the yearly cycle
Halo was never as big as CoD now. It will take them like 10 years to ruin CoD. I hjave no doubt they will destroy it, but don't count on it happening fast.
Bethesda and Microsoft sabatoged the game. And you're the one sucking Xbox off.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>sabotaged
There's nothing to sabotage, Redfall was gonna be a flop no matter what, it was literally only made for the purpose of making Bethesda look good for Xbox to buy, when it DID happen Arkane hoped Phil or someone would be able to tell it looked like ass and let them scrap it so they could work on something they actually want to work on
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>was so shit at making games they forced Arkane to make a shit game
Fixed.
Xbox is shit.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Bethesda and Microsoft sabatoged the game. And you're the one sucking Xbox off.
Redfall was in production long before microsoft bought bethesda. It even got delayed for a year.
>sabotaged
There's nothing to sabotage, Redfall was gonna be a flop no matter what, it was literally only made for the purpose of making Bethesda look good for Xbox to buy, when it DID happen Arkane hoped Phil or someone would be able to tell it looked like ass and let them scrap it so they could work on something they actually want to work on
So arkane is shit a making games then?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>So arkane is shit a making games then?
Yes, very. They 100% deserved to get shut down.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
(me)
I am trans by the way, in case that matters
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm not a troony.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I am which is why I said arkane is shit at making games and 100% deserved to get shut down
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Arkane 100% deserved to be shut down, and I am not a troony. Your coping won't bring the company back.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You are 100% trans and moronic
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Cope. Your beloved Arkane is dead, and never coming back.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Your wretched penis has been cut off and is never coming back. Cope.
Xbox is fricking trash btw.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>So arkane is shit a making games then? >So Arkane who was forced to make something they don't dabble in shit at making games?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>forced to >don't dabble in
They're a game studio. If they can't dabble in games why should they even exist
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Don't be a reductive moron, you don't force a dev whose primary genre being single player FPS games into making a shitty L4D knock off and expect a gangbuster, there's no timeline where Redfaill was anything other than a flop
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I swear bethesda hates arkane, between the prey drama and redfall it's like that studio was setup to fail
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>they're a game studio so they should only exist if they can make looter shooter slop
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Don't be a reductive moron, you don't force a dev whose primary genre being single player FPS games into making a shitty L4D knock off and expect a gangbuster, there's no timeline where Redfaill was anything other than a flop
Redfall was being made specifcally so Bethesda could sweeten the deal for the Microsoft buy out, and most of its production was under Xbox . Over 70% of the staff who worked on Prey had left the company by the time production on Redfall ended, again under Xbox .
Xbox is shit at making games, so they bought a bunch of devs studios to make games for them, and had them make shit games because all anyone at Microsoft knows how to do is make shit games.
>forced to
They weren't forced to do anything could have left like the rest but didn't. They own the failure of redfall just like they own the closing of arkane.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>They weren't forced to do anything could have left
Over 70% of them did. Can you read Black person?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I did and 30% still remained. All 100% of them shitty game designers too. God help the other studios the land at.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You are profoundly moronic.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Xbox owns the failure of redfall just like they own the closing of arkane. They were repeatedly asked by the developers to cancel the project and most of them left the studio when Xbox said no and insisted on releasing it.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Redfall was being made specifcally so Bethesda could sweeten the deal for the Microsoft buy out, and most of its production was under Xbox . Over 70% of the staff who worked on Prey had left the company by the time production on Redfall ended, again under Xbox .
Xbox is shit at making games, so they bought a bunch of devs studios to make games for them, and had them make shit games because all anyone at Microsoft knows how to do is make shit games.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>So arkane is shit a making games then?
they haven't released a single good game since dingo babadook took over. they've been ESG DIE trash for the better part of a decade and I only wish they killed it entirely instead of just shuttering the austin office.
do they not know which thing they care about more? you can't pump gamepass and pump game sales numbers at the same time
also sonygays dont have gamepass anyway so they still have to buy cod copies
the easy solution for cod on xbox is no cod gamepass until the second season starts, so you get the pump of sales at launch and then gamepass subs from people on the fence months later
Here's why the studios were shut down >Game Pass kills sales >the Activision acquisition left Xbox with a financial hole
Literally killed so that we could get more CoDshit and Blizzardshit. You happy Ganker?
>What happened
Xbox was ran by vindictive morons that wanted to buy Publishers to "Buy Sony out of the industry" and convinced the overheaded Microsoft to fund this buyout under the guys that it was going to cause a massive surge in Xbox players
Lowe and behold, not only did the news in 2022 not cause a surge of players, Microsoft would see a decrease of revenue from gaming over the following year and Warzone would go from chart topper to flopper as the covid restrictions and lockdown stopped, so the huge gold rush of venture capital buying out gaming became a shitshow of companies having to cut costs because they weren't going to be money printers like they expected
Now Microsoft panicked and killed multiple studios, likely they thought it would be good to kill Tango because it was a Japanese team despite producing the most popular Xbox game in a decade
You and the rest of the media just keep blaming Phil because it's easier to feed the narrative that way. She's a black woman which means nobody in the media is going to point a finger at her
>Tango Gameworks was a Japanese video game developer based in Tokyo. Founded in March 2010 by Shinji Mikami, previously of Capcom, the company was acquired by ZeniMax Media in October that year after suffering financial issues.
>instead of being honourary aryan and going broke >he sold to a israelite, who then sold to another israelite and finally went bankrupt
I find it hilarious that Sarah Bond is always the public facing brown girl sacrificial lamb. Her role is completely artificial and represents basically no real value other than sending her to the trenches when shit gets messy. You can see it in her dead eyes.
>Tango got axe'd cause their games did not line up with their diversity bullshit agenda. >Arkane got axe'd cause their games were all driven by the diversity bullshit agenda
Classic Ganker
lmao this fricking simping for her is utterly ridiculous. She does not get special treatment just because you want to frick her. She is part of the c-suite team and is doing an utterly shit job just like Phil Spencer and Matt Booty.
The thing is, Sarah Bond is the definition of a corpo rat. You can hate Phil Spencer and Matt Booty, but at the very least their careers came from within Microsoft. They know video games. Sarah Bond is from fricking AT&T and knows absolutely NOTHING about video games yet still landed a "President" of Xbox title. She is literally the least trustworthy person on the executive team.
None of them are trustworthy. Phil Spencer and Matt Booty "know video games" just makes it even more pathetic and embarrassing that they're running Xbox like this.
They don' know either. Take any random anon off Ganker from 15 years ago, let them run the company and xbox would be in a better state now than it is under Phil and Booty.
Not gonna defend them, but on top of that there are shareholders that could topple their shitty work with their own shitty decisions.
Publically traded companies will never be trustworthy
WAHHH WAHHHA WHY ARE YOU SO RACIST TOWARDS US, WE ONLY WANT TO DEMORALIZE YOU AND HATE WHITE MEN, WE LOVE VIDEO GAMES SO MUCH WE OUTSOURCE ALL OUR WORK TO INDIA TO DELIVER THE LOWEST QUALITY CONTENT POSSIBLE
YOU GUYS ARE THE REAL RACISTS WAAA WAAAA WAAA
have a nice day YOU Black personhomosexual SUBHUMAN
I think xbox as a brand is DOA, quite frankly Phil Spencer has mismanaged it and just cant turn the ship around. Disagree with the argument some are making online about "well Phil is for the gamers if some corpo suit takes his place things will get worse!!" well shit things are bad NOW, at least with a corpo suit I know what I'm getting upfront instead of Phil's fake persona of "hey I'm a GAYMER just like you guys" with his lame tshirts while holding a knife in his back still shutting down studios.
Xbox will go full 3rd party, it just seems inevitable and we're ate the "rearranging chairs at the titanic" stage of things
It's funny because anon's moronic logic of forcing studios to make multiplayer crap instead of the games those studios are good at making was Tim Ryan's whole strategy at Playstation lol
Ganker cheered it on out of pure spite against sony, and the prospect of free COD on gamepass (lol). Pic related got a nice fat payout of $500 million from it too, remember that the next time you see Ganker ranting about israelites or demanding you denounce the talmund or whatever.
>The news we announced earlier in the week is an outcome of that, in our commitment to make sure that the business is healthy for the long term.
Poor, poor multi-trillion dollar company, barely surviving in these tough times. Why won't you feel sorry for these struggling souls?
Hi Fi Rush was a good game but a bad game for the worst reasons. The mechanics were sound, but the choice of music behind the entire mechanic was absolutely awful.
Anyone that thinks music like "The Black Keys" is anything beyond the most bland bullshit ever needs to kill themselves.
The trailer for this game with "Lonely Boy" in it literally deleted potential sales of the game, I can assure you.
Yeah, because Lonely Boy totally isn't a well remembered song that's right in that sweet spot of being nostalgic but not retro. You're a fricking moron on every goddam level.
I do indeed concede that you are being incorrect on purpose and that's okay we all have hobbies.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
No refunds, but do keep trying to get out of that hole with redditor reasoning, it's too much fun to watch.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>No refunds
???
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I do indeed concede
Thanks!
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
No seriously what are you talking about for refunds? You don't get to play tennis while we're playing checkers and then claim Monopoly.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>we're playing checkers
???
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Exactly, that's how nonsense and confusing you were for just whipping out "No refunds" after I (You)'d you like I was supposed to know what that means.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're just repeating yourself and projecting like a schizophrenic despite not having a point
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
So are you, you fricking spastic. Explain what you meant by "no refunds".
If you're not a troony (unlikely) I really hope you actually are mentally moronic. You can't have an opinion that fricking stupid without being one or the other.
This unironically rationalizes piracy even more because this hard-confirms that it literally doesn't matter if your favorite game does well anymore. No amount of support of a dev matters. The endless struggle for big number fast overshadows everything.
Kek.
Alright, corpo-human translation: >Don't fricking ask me b***h, they weren't making enough money and some other suits demanded that we cut some costs, that's why they're gone.
I wish I had a job as a ms executive.
They literally can do the stupidest shit and not be fired, while still getting promoted and paid millions a year.
Easiest job in the world.
Gamepass basically trained Xbox users into never buying games, Microsoft forgot that the Netflix way of thing requires that take a lost for at least a decade till they have enough to sustain their ecosystem everyone that wants to create the “Netflix of gaming” doesn’t seems to understand this
She doesn't actually dodge the question. People just arent listening. She's saying that to microsoft the game wasn't successful and every game and studio have their own unique targets they need to hit. She says it in a wishy washy woman way. But that's what she is saying. The game wasn't successful to them.
>One game was genuinely shadow-dropped and sold on a business model that made it no money >The other was made against the dev's will, created exactly how Microsoft wanted it making every poor choice possible complete with releasing a game no one wanted even after poor reception in beta >surprised both weren't successful
HiFi Rush did better than the throwaway game it was meant to be, but it doesn’t make up for 2 years of AAA + 1 year of AA development costs incurred by Tango doing nothing since the releases of their last two games, not for Mikami laving.
The executives at Arcane did want Redfall to be made, and it was in development for years before Microsoft owned them.
All this means is that the next time anyone at Xbox or their fans say that a game is successful, there's no reason to believe them since they have no credibility now.
A AA game being successful means nothing for a AAA studio. Were Tango in American instead pf Japan, they would have moved the HiFi Rush team under another studio, but that isn’t an option for their single Japanese studio.
Just saying, those excuses might work for redfall, but when you take every opportunity to tell people your game is successful and it wins a bunch of awards that you need more games like it, no one reasonable is going to believe you when you say any of your games are successful in the future.
You already made this thread.
Nintendo shills have been spamming "xbox is finally dead guys!!!" threads for literal years.
i don't fricking care
>n-n-n-no those are (other group) not snoys!!!
okay
The only reason it's not dead yet is because it's owned by microsoft
Microsoft is a graveyard for games and developers
Yep its definitely Nintendo shills and not shills for the company that's directly competing with Microsoft
Why would Nintendo care about Microsoft? Even Steam is more of a competitor to them.
>Thread about Xbox
>B-BUT NINTENDO
least deranged snoy
PCbros have mindbroken them
Amiga's homies have been real silent since this.
Why would Nintendo fans give a frick about whether Xbox dies or not? Snoys would be the ones cheering to the heavens about Xbox's death
Weak bait, Eric
The SteamDeck at 5 million units is a bigger threat that Xbox Series 21 million because Valve isn't run by morons. Total Xbox console brand collapse in real time is happening btw.
Everyone hates Xbox sir.
The biggest Xbox haters aren't even Sony fans or PC gays. It's former Xbox fans who were burned too many times.
you already bought the rope tho...
sorry for what the israelites did to you man
the guy on the right is shabbat(he fricked the boy to get in)
First time I see it. Frick you.
Link it. Also why can’t there be two threads?
I haven't seen it, yet you have. Literally get the frick off this website and go touch grass.
what do you want her to say. She doesn't give a shit and shes not making the choices. Why do so many people care about shitty studios getting shutdown anyway. You'll have to plenty of slop to consume little piggies.
what the frick do you think her job is? the job of the boss is to act like she knows what she's doing but she can't even manage that, it does not inspire confidence
For a black she's pretty hot that's good enough to no doubt to get a israelites 2 inch boner going and that's how she got her job.
>the boss
She's not the boss, she's a DEI hire installed to take heat off of the real bosses calling the shots at Microsoft.
You're right. A boss should have zero fricking clue what they are talking about or know anything about their business.
it's simple, she's giving the runaround because the real reason sounds so goddamn bad to say out loud her team just told her to say a bunch of nothing instead
Let's just assume not everyone think of them as shitty studios
>the head of the divsion doesn't have anything to do with the division.
Holy DEI batman
>what is going on at xbox
the problem is in the picture already
>the problem is in the picture already
Yeah but she's a black woman which means nobody in the media is going to point a finger at her. They'll just keep blaming Phil because it's easier to feed the narrative that way.
He's still there, he's CEO not president, but that Sarah Bond lady in the OP is from Microsoft Gaming, not Xbox but basically the highest level of Microwiener that deals with video games, and they planted her into Xbox to essentially take over for Phil. It's clear that either her or her puppet masters at Microwiener are the ones behind all the bad news of late and it's yet another example of corporate suits only looking at numbers and deleting the lowest values to bump up their financial median.
I'm hearing conflicting reports now, apparently when Shinji left he took most of the staff with him to his new studio. Phil and Sarah could've just said that but I think they don't want bad blood between Shinji.
when did he leave? after hifi rush or before?
After hifi rush
oh, well then frick the studio lol it was dead anyway
Mikami had nothing to do with Hi-Fi Rush. The Tango game he was most involved in (Evil Within 1) was a disaster. He obviously wasn’t needed.
>Mikami had nothing to do with Hi-Fi Rush.
What's that got to do with anything? The fact is he took all of the old guard with him just like Stefton Hill did with Rocksteady
NTA but you implied the studio was dead specifically because Mikami had left.
Mikami doesn't make games, hasn't done for over a decade....
that's a lie made up by coping xbots
who is that gay and why should I believe him
Impressive inability to fricking read
idiot
please let's not act like countless good studios haven't been shuttered by white/japanese executives
Gotteeem
she should have just pulled down her pants and started fingering her pussy
>Xbox President Sarah Bond
Wait what happened to Phil, did they fire him?
that was a pretty weak deflection. I'm surprised. it's like the sort of half assed answer you see after a 'just wing it' sort of presentation that people do in school.
First Helldivers, then this. The past week has been great.
lol worthless b***h has no idea what even goes on in the company she works for
Dude, leave her alone. You're acting like she already knew when making that tweet.
She's not gonna frick you you little white knight
She already knew.
>Xbox president had no idea about the upcoming closure of several Xbox studios.
Well they really should fire her pronto if that's true
Snoys and Xbots deserve eachother
She is a powerful black woman, you fricking RACIST. Yeah, that's right. I said you're racist. I win. Racist.
Holy shit.
>corpo cucks are full of shit
Shocking.
They literally have PR speech training, you numbnuts.
Kill all corpogays
this is like the Sony Interactive CEO going to London Studio and taking picture with all the devs ONLY FOR HIM to fire them all and close down the studio like two weeks later HAHAHAHHAH AHHA HA HA
You don't really think she handles that account herself, right? Even middle managers have people for that.
I dont know what worse optics vise , that literal president of Xbox didnt know one of her studios is being shut down , cuz shes just a worthless front facing DEI hire dumb b***h
or that shes a soulless prostitute who tweeted this knowing whats coming
or you know, the most valid reason, Satya Nadella went above rank and file and ordered the studios to be closed to protect profits, which forced Spencer, Sarah Bond and Matt Booty to run defense for and try to spit out some BS about how it was spread too thin.
It's well documented that Satya Nadella doesn't give a shit about Xbox
No, it's because of DEI hires.
The yin and yang
Farewell sausage
to be fair that twit was two months ago, how would she know? the market changes every day
Why are we letting women go into jobs where they have any sort of power at all?
>we
~~*they*~~
Real slimy to ambush this poor woman about this when it has nothing to do with her. Try asking Phil instead, dipshits.
Especially knowing that Gamers wouldn't be happy with an answer from someone like her no matter what she said.
>Ask the president of the company a question about things the company does
HOW DARE YOU
Phil Spencer's Gamertag has been spotted playing Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 as the Xbox console brand burns to the ground. Sarah Bond's taking the beating in his place, that's a sacrifice he's willing to live with.
Yeah but she's a black woman which means nobody in the media is going to point a finger at her. They'll just keep blaming Phil because it's easier to feed the narrative that way.
you know thats just at thing for advertising right? hes not actually playing games
The optics are bad regardless.
I doubt it's not him, every game that's on his xbox account refers to his taste. He even alludes to it like saying I completed brothers game, vampire survivors and his profile does say so. He also started shilling brotato after he played it, timeline checks out
uh huh. go ahead and tell me how santa is actually real too.
If I was getting paid as much as she is, I wouldn't give a frick about getting "grilled" for dumb ass decisions. lol
>Phil Spencer's Gamertag has been spotted playing Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 as the Xbox console brand burns to the ground.
People nuked his camp in F76 kek
If I played that god awful game, I'd nuke his camp even before all this bull shit.
What do people expect from another genius harvard business nigg who went straight into a fortune 500 company and became partner after 2 years? Good luck to anyone trying to shit on her cause thats not gonna happen.
>Sarah Bond
is this a joke?
She married a white man, they always do.
Why don't they put people with passion for games in positions like this?
Because the market matured. Or “matured” may be a better rendering. Passion on a project is almost invariably inversely proportionate to the number of people involved in a corporate environment. Once companies get this large they become committees that only think in numbers and (more recently) colors, and passion can be neither accurately quantified or exchanged directly for a monetary value.
In other words, rule of thumbs is:
small company = “we really want to make a new and inventive product, and it would be awesome if we hit the bug bucks doing it.”
large company = “we really want to be the sole supplier of this product and grow endlessly, and it would be awesome if we are able to make a good product along the way.”
>and it would be awesome if we are able to make a good product along the way.
They'd prefer to release mediocre products and make customers used to them instead of high quality ones that raise standards. It's cheaper that way.
autists should not be in leadership positions that are focused on talking with normal people
Massive organizations always get filled with people who are good at advancing and surviving in massive organisations, not in fulfilling the organization's actual goals
Cause line has to go up and someone who actually cares about vidya will not necessarily do that.
Theyll losse the passion dealing with moronic shareholders suits
I don't fault her. There is no defense for any of this.
The same thing that's been happening since 2010
Diversity
It's ready to DIE
Thank god, after 20 years of trying to turn gaming into a subscriptiom service.
*DEI
God please hurry up and fricking kill them off already.
>Put a woman in charge
>company starts to collapse
I wonder why things are not going well over at xbox
>put woman in charge
>company revives from slump and succeeds big time
Sarah Bond is just a diversity fascismile for muttbox, she isn't doing anything. the failure of muttbox is his alone.
Apparently Lisa and Jensen Huang are cousins
Where's all those Nintendo Xbox fans coming together now?
This is so much worse than "No comment."
Wanna hear Sarah speak nihongo?
https://twitter.com/SuzySnoozie/status/1788747596627931608
the japs were right about hating xbox
I took Japanese in uni for an IB major and there was this guy that sounded like this and just would not quit. He always scraped by until he failed out like two years in. I felt bad for him, he was really bad at talking to anyone during exercises.
Good fricking Lord.
>Mini-san
Holy hell.
KONICHIWA DUDE
my fricking grandpa can speak jap better than this
probably because of how many he killed in the war
she needs to do a naked apology stream
>mini san
Lol, based Black dabbing on all the Jap dicklets
Is she a
Robot?
Hahahahahahhaahahahahahahaahahah
MINI SAN
Keep my wifes name out of your mouth.
>Woman ruins another thing
Big fricking surprised. End womans suffrage.
If you have to do interviews on bloomberg talking about video games, you've already lost and are completely tone deaf and incompetent
The golden age of video games was more than 25 years ago and the studios never had to do or engage in humiliation rituals like this
Shitty anime games don't make a billion dollars. M$ wants games that make billions not millions.
They're not getting those billions either, modern companies don't give a shit about naturally cultivating a consumer base/community and growing it slowly and sustainably and that's why all their shit products fail.
They don't appeal to anybody
And if that was really the true why the frick is shit like State of Decay still alive?
Anything can make a billion dollars if it's marketed correctly.
Hifirush was not marketed, at all.
I don't think xbox is the future and they're getting rid of xbox as a whole.
You're probably right. Wouldn't be surprising if Xbox was gone in a year or two.
Going to take longer than that, but I don't see the division lasting longer than 6-10 years.
They'll keep the brand, but the division will be ravaged by Microsoft with most people getting the boot.
How do you frick up this hard?
Honestly, I'm starting to think that it's some kind of corporate sabotage and my schizo theory is that it's Spencer
No anon, it's nothing malicious like that, these morons are just that incompetent and out of touch.
It really was, AAA and all this monetization wouldn't have become the cancer that it is today if it weren't for them.
I just don't want to believe that people in such a high position are truly this stupid.
It has to be sabotage, they must be getting paid by someone to frick up Microsoft, it's far too insane.
>I just don't want to believe that people in such a high position are truly this stupid.
Anon, they're not there because they are good at their job, they are there because they kiss ass, swindle and have connections.
That's how it works in the USA and in many parts of Europe.
It's just so gross to me, they're fricking with peoples lives
Welcome to the corporate world, the biggest sociopathic lying piece of shit wins!
Q2 must be grim for a lot of companies, jesus.
It's funny how butthurt people are over these studio closures, but apparently they weren't excited enough to buy their games.
What she said was fine. It's a non-answer: something that sounds like she's answering the question, but not really. The studios were closed because they think doing so will help them achieve their long-term business objectives -- no shit.
Wasn't there news that they were closed because they were pitching games which were years away from completion? In a business environment where you expect flat or falling revenues and the cost to loan money is high for the foreseeable future, it makes sense to close down parts of the business which don't drive significant revenues. Why carry that risk in a rough economy?
I've been a part of something which was shut down due to a merger happening. It sucks, but it happens in all industries.
>because they think doing so will help them achieve their long-term business objectives
We all know it won't, that's the issue
What you're not seeing is opportunity cost to keep these studios alive. Look at the top sellers list from last year, like a third of the list are Microsoft properties. In an economic outlook where people are buying fewer games for the next few years, it makes sense to redirect money from lower performing things into higher performing things. Instead of $xxMM for whatever, they can spend it on something that will have a bigger return like a TES, Starfield, etc.
It reminds me of when Ford decided to cease production of passenger cars. I don't like trucks, and SUVs so I didn't like the decision. But there's an opportunity cost with having production line dedicated to products which deliver middling returns, and they were right.
The point is that people are more excited about the closure than anything they've ever made.
What I'm seeing is incompetent morons cutting fat after years of bad decisions.
Them buying King and COD won't make much of a difference.
Minecraft is dying and so will those.
>but apparently they weren't excited enough to buy their games.
HFR was on gamepass, MS did a day-0 shadowdrop with no marketing, and supposedly it still performed well. So in this specific case I'm not sure what MS expected.
>supposedly it still performed well
Bethesda has been integrated with Xbox for over 3 years now, this isn’t cutting the chaff of a new merger. Microsoft just isn’t interested in games that’ll make less money than a fallout 3 remaster. These are the decisions of people who don’t understand this medium and what makes a platform appealing.
>long-term business objectives
>It's funny how butthurt people are over these studio closures, but apparently they weren't excited enough to buy their games.
Nibba, for the last 2 was Phil Spencer was running around asking people to buy Game Pass if they want games like Hi-Fi Rush which is what people did.
> Wasn't there news that they were closed because they were pitching games which were years away from completion?
How the frick are they expected to pump out a profitable game in a year? They just finished a massive project, and if it’s with regards to profitability MS dropped it on Gamepass day one, absolutely ensuring it would sell poorly. It’s obvious on its face to anyone vaguely familiar with the industry that saying they needed multiple years to make a game as the reason is equivalent to “unfortunately they made less then 95 on metacritic and this was why we had to chop them.” The brutal truth is, it was pure numbers and the committee looking at the numbers made no effort whatsoever to distinguish anything other than pure, hard numbers. Tango was unquantifiable because of MS’s decision, and though it was shitty they needed to make a hard decision and axed them.
Microsoft has a "spreadsheet manager" problem. MBAs who plug numbers into spreadsheet formulas all day and make decisions based on what it says. The MBA ideal is that they don't need to know or care what the company or division even DOES, you manage the numbers and make the right ones go up and the wrong ones go down and success is inevitable. It's a cult.
And so what do you do when you're an idiot MBA managing by spreadsheet and you have to balance a MASSIVE amount of red because you just acquired a bunch of supremely expensive companies? You close some of them. Which do you close? Normal people would say the ones that make bad games. But to an MBA "bad" and "good" are irrelevant. What counts is making number go up, and it doesn't matter that Tango had a sleeper hit and is brimming with talent, what matters is that the profit from the released game is divorced from the studio that made it, that's already on the balance sheet and will continue to be if TG exists or not. But accepting a pitch for a new game from them means the number keeps going DOWN until they are done and you can't have that. But if you sack them, liability number goes WAY down and that's good and these other studios have less liability which is better. Except they also have significantly less upside, but an MBA can't understand such concepts and they also can't understand what happens when you lose a whole bunch of talent. My spreadsheet doesn't have a "talent" column, so that's irrelevant.
Sadly that applies to just about every modern corporation. MBAs were a mistake.
>people want Fallout
>Fallout 5 is a decade from completion
>people want to see other countries in the Fallout universe
>you have a Japanese studio that obviously knows Japan and its culture well and have experience making shooters and open worlds
I've never seen a more obvious play here.
Ordinarily I would say Fallout should remain a strictly America-centric franchise. But if Bethesda had the balls to attempt Fallout Japan, I would endorse it.
Why didn't microwiener prep for the Amazon show by making a third party studio put out a new Fallout game? They seem incompetent at making money
>apparently they weren't excited enough to buy their games
why the frick would I buy any xbox software when they themselves give them all away in a monthly $10 bundle?
I fricking hate how language works. she basically maneuvered around the question while saying nothing.
I'd have ten times more respect for her if she just said
>No it doesn't work like that, what are you gonna do about it, b***h?
Because at least then it'd be an honest answer.
What's fricked up about this post is that it acknowledges she gave a non-answer and then guesses to why the studios were closed down.
Maybe she could've, idk, TOLD US WHY THEY WERE CLOSED DOWN?
What fricking long-term business objectives did she have in mind?
What goals weren't being reached?
What goals do they have in mind?
Why can Nintendo make putting out good games work but Microsoft can't?
Anything?
>What's fricked up about this post is that it acknowledges she gave a non-answer and then guesses to why the studios were closed down.
I didn't guess, I just regurgitated something I had read. There's no upside to spilling all the details as to why they made the decision. Haven't you ever been in a situation where you didn't want to go into specifics about something but had say something?
>Haven't you ever been in a situation where you didn't want to go into specifics about something but had say something?
no, because I'm not a diversity hire golem doing the bidding of dishonest israelites.
this is how people feel about microsoft right now
>they fricked up
>they know they fricked up
>they're not saying why
>she just made it way worse by not saying how and why things went wrong.
's no upside to spilling all the details as to why they made the decision.
There is an up side in explaining what happened and where things went wrong because we know you know that you won't make the same mistakes.
because consider this.
What if she actually doesn't fricking know because she's incompetent?
>this is how people feel about microsoft right now
No one is going to care in six months, and no one will base their game purchases on whether or not Microsoft give a detailed explanation of why they closed a studio. Even if you got your explanation in the form of a 30 page dissertation, you'd just quibble with the assumptions, forecasting, numbers, reasoning, etc. That is why it is best not to say, it would go from arguing about the decision to arguing about the details and reasoning that lead to the decision.
>Wasn't there news that they were closed because they were pitching games which were years away from completion?
Do you have any idea how many years it takes to make a game? The Call of Duty formula where they have two different AAA studio-sized teams spending a mere 2 years on making a game is incredibly fast for the quality of product they're able to shit out.
>The Call of Duty formula where they have two different AAA studio-sized teams
They have 4 AAA studios (some with multiple teams) working on CoD to release that fast:
Infinity Ward
Treyarch
Raven
Sledgehammer
They supposedly had no games in development, which is a very strong indicator of mismanagement, being their AAA team has been free since 2022.
>What she said was fine. It's a non-answer: something that sounds like she's answering the question, but not really.
That's not fine.
That's what slimy politicians do.
And we fricking crucify them for it.
Do you?
>And we fricking crucify them for it.
Who are "we"? Cause neither americans nor europe do.
>That's what slimy politicians do.
First of all, normal people do it all the time.
>How's it going?
>Fine.
It would be inappropriate to say the full truth:
>A bit tired to honest, I have this foot fungus and I was up all night scratching my feet. I'm a bit worried though, my butt is starting to itch and I think the fungus may have spread.
so people just say 'Fine'. There's nothing wrong with it.
Second, there's an issue of whether or not the person asking the question is actually entitled to an answer. If your boss is asking you about some work item, you have an obligation to answer truthfully. If your boss is asking about the outcome of some medical exam you just had, you have no obligation to answer fully, truthfully, or all. She has no obligation to give some detailed explanation as how they came to their decision to close a studio.
The studios closed because Xbox hired a
1. Woman
2. Dindu
To run the business. Neither of these things can do anything of value. Business is now dysfunctional and failing. Hence closures.
>but apparently they weren't excited enough to buy their games.
Every metric about Hi Fi Rush says it sold millions and was extremely profitable.
https://www.gamesradar.com/xbox-says-hi-fi-rush-was-a-success-in-all-key-measurements-amid-rumors-of-poor-sales/
They even came out and dispelled rumors that it 'bombed'.
So what, I'm not supposed to believe Xbox anymore?
Even the Steam reviews of it are in the figures of 20k+ which means it could sell a million copies in there at least.
>So what, I'm not supposed to believe Xbox anymore?
Unironically yes.
>Wasn't there news that they were closed because they were pitching games which were years away from completion?
isn't this the case for every small studio that literally just released a game?
You fricking moron.
Tango actually made them a profit but they did not line up with their diversity bullshit agenda.
This is why people are so fricking angry.
It would had objectively made more if not for the fricking Goypass.
343i is factually a heavier financial burden than any other studio except for Arkane which was not even MS when Redfall began production.
Practically women have this highschool mindset where they only see their friends and everyone else is invisible or against them. Women should not be in charge of anything.
Denuvo, not even once.
>Why carry that risk in a rough economy?
This mindset has led to stagnation which in turn has been imploding companies for decades. People back then were starting up companies and entering the fray with new ideas and actual innovation, not for the sake of social progression and diversification, after the great depression and became the goliaths that are today. Unless these companies stop with their safe spaces with remakes, remasters, and rehashes, more companies will close.
>Wasn't there news that they were closed because they were pitching games which were years away from completion?
Anon, how the frick do you think products are made? Before you can sell a thing you have to actually make the thing. No shit their games would be years away from completion, because they had just shipped one game and would need time to make another.
>it makes sense to close down parts of the business which don't drive significant revenues.
MS themselves said Hi-Fi Rush was a breakout hit by every metric. Are you calling MS execs a bunch of filthy liars now?
>Why carry that risk in a rough economy?
We're talking about the RICHEST COMPANY ON EARTH. This isn't some struggling publisher up to their neck in debt. MS is literally the last company on the planet that can whine about """"rough economy"""".
By their every metric.
Indeed. Their words, not ours.
Hi Fi Rush is a small vanity game, like Mirror’s Edge was, but unlike DICE, Tango had nothing else in the pipeline.
HFR made M$ more money than Halo Shitfinite, which still has yet to make a profit to this day.
It's infuriating because said rough financials were literally by design from Microsoft's choices. They set these companies up to fail and then had the gall to let them keep going for several months as if a closure wasn't going to happen.
Xbox is the worst thing to have happened to vidya.
She can't contain her excitement about videogames.
She just loves videogames so much, bros.
We took Steve Ballmer for granted
The lady asked her a straightforward question and her response is a word salad, I fricking hate poeple like her, it's like talking to a wall
They are trained and coached extensively how to do that. It's infuriating.
These people are lizards in human skin suits.
>Twitter makes memes that Ganker now reuses rather than the other way around
The day has come. After Xbox shitting itself this hard, PlayStation shitting itself as hard as it has, Ganker decisively shitter than it has ever been and no end in sight of their declines (among other things), it's time to start accepting I've wasted valuable years of my life trying to "hold on" with this industry that has gone to shit.
What else you gonna do, watch movies?
There are decades worth of good movies to get through from around the world. If you stopped watching anything besides old movies, there are still enough to fill a lifetime of at least a different one every day until you die.
>there could be Black folk in the audience
>Sarah thought
i'm still waiting for the surprise complete turn around that makes everyone shit themselves, it'll come
What’s even more baffling is they just released it digitally for ps5, and limited run games still has physical editions for both consoles on the way. They didn’t even give it a chance. Every game needs a ton of microtransactions and games as a service model or it’s a waste of time for these clueless execs.
>They didn’t even give it a chance.
Is it really that hard for modern game publishers to just wait it out a little bit when it comes to cultivating new IPs? I mean most popular games didn't end up popular right away (GTA, Dark Souls, Metal Gear).
nta, lol asking a bunch of cokeheads to be patient
the industry has just gotten too bloated. A game like Baltaro or Lethal company made by like 1-10 dudes can sell as much as a halo game.
They have such high expectations that no studio can truly compete with one hit wonders.
Microsoft spent over $100 billion because they’re incapable of cultivating studios and IP themselves. Every studio they buy they inevitably frick up. Every new studio they create is a disaster. Microsoft is run by clowns but somehow kept afloat by bloated government and military contracts. These people making billion dollar decisions really are just clueless about what they’re doing.
who cares they are meeting meat suit buffers that sit in meeting all day, real xbox is r&d division, and they don't care about games in themselves, they are just conduit to test their r&d. It's why og xbox games where shipped with a fricking virtual machine that runs instead of just running on xbox itself.
I got second hand embarrassment from that. Wow.
How hard is it to say:
>Tango was a great studio but unfortunately none of their games have been a massive success for us. Game development costs are ballooning, margins are tight and we need to focus our resources on the brands that we know gamers want.
she's walking on egg shells with microsoft's ceo who probably wants to kill xbox SO FRICKING BADLY
>we need to focus our resources on the brands that we know gamers want.
such a moronic thing to say
1) It's better than literal word salad
2) It's 100% true. Hi Fi Rush cost millions to bring in millions. Call of Duty, Fallout, Elder Scrolls, etc costs millions to bring in billions. These are franchises that will move units. Niche Jap games aren't worth the time and money investment.
Call of Duty, Fallout, Elder Scrolls cost them $85 billion.
They will never make that money back, or sell as much as pic related, because they refuse to cultivate talent. Going all in on AAA and nothing else is a losing strategy.
>because they refuse to cultivate talent.
Exactly. Nobody is asking them to innovate CoD, But even to just sustain IP and keep it alive you need talented people these days.
Under Microsoft CoD has 10 years tops, then it will be forgotten by a large public like Halo and only a niche audience will remember and care about it.
The name's Bond.
Sara Bond.
>Sarah Bond, Agent 000 games, License to kill Gaming Studios
>The spy that footjobbed me
(Pic related)
>Mup ma doo bix nood
thank you sarah very cool
That was the worst non answer I've ever heard. Phil Spencer is seething with envy about not being able to come up with as much bullshit than that.
The most shocking thing is that everyone in 343 still have their jobs despite Halo Infinite flopping HARD. Microsoft spend $500 on a game that still feels like an Early Access 3 years later
*$500 million
off topic but I heard they're still updating that game and made it cool.
https://twitter.com/MintBlitz/status/1788222576054980772
It's still unfinished. The campaign is a joke. They never added a co-op. The multiplayer is still pretty much early access.
They added the coop. And honestly there are a lot of equip and maps now. The problem is the RIDICULOUS monetization.
No matter what you do to that game it will still be shit. That engine and the gameplay framework designed around it is not halo
It's funny that if they had shuttered 343 instead of Tango literally no one would be complaining and it would likely be a more financially savvy move.
everyone in the campaign team and a lot of the managements got kicked out of the studio. A portion of the multiplayer team and third party studio are handling the cosmetic and frameworks of the game. With the recent news of Microsoft being a shitty company, Im fricking annoyed of all the 343 shills pushing the narrative that its all microsoft's fault. YES its ALSO their fault, everyone knows that if you weren't a mouth breathing moron. 343 is also responsible for many of the troubled development and stupid changes. You're telling me Microsoft forced 343 to make the Ravager unusable for 6 months?
remember ghostwire tokyo? it came out and it bombed so they stopped paying for denuvo then a DLC released and they paid for denuvo on the DLC of a dead game
This is the game that killed steam for me. That a company can just release a DRM infested patch and I get no say in the matter means that was the last non-indie game I ever buy from steam. Hell, it even puts me off the indies. If it's not on GoG it's a hard sell to me now. Well done Gaben, I expect idiotic shit from Zenimax and Microsoft but from you? Disappointed.
Im sure they will miss your business and probably go bankrupt because of it. None of this matters. In 1000 years we will all be dead and it won't matter if there were black or trans people in video games.
>Im sure they will miss your business and probably go bankrupt because of it.
Yeah, about that...
I will never, ever understand why people shat on this game. I've finished it recently and it's a solid 8/10 - mostly due to good sidequests and gameplay.
Because it's first person, I'm not joking, there is a high percentage of players who refuse to play them. This is why all Sony games are in third person and even when there is first person they offer the third person option.
It have a crappy section to the final boss and the powers are the end are the shinji michamis resident evil weapons "changed" you even have a sneak section with bow like far cry, also yokais are just weeb slenderman and shiet
Remember how the english translation of this game inserted communist rhetoric
where was all the angry supposedly conservative news media then, you have an actual fricking outrage yet for games they keep getting upset about stupid bullshit instead
>where was all the angry supposedly conservative news media then
They probably didnt know about it cause who the frick plays these in english? I actually played the game and knew nothing about this cause why would I play it in english.
Xbox never care about videogames, just making money copy the most popular formulas and tried other studios port games.
Another videogame market is Windows, Windows care about run videogames to sell more PC with windows and market share.
Gamepass change the dynamic to get the biggest amount gamepass users and now Xbox with other acquisitions change to prefer massive games on gamepass with massive replayer or hours played per gamer.
Now Xbox see EA as model of bussiness.
>now Xbox with other acquisitions change to prefer massive games on gamepass with massive replayer or hours played per gamer.
Why CoD isnt on the Game Pass then?
>Todd really fricking dropped the ball with that space game but we can't get rid of him after paying all that money so we have to scuttle other studios and hope he does better next time
Starfield was a frickup to be sure, but the main issue is that they just spent 75 BILLION on Activision-Blizzard and have nothing to show for it.
What are the chances that Microsoft leaves the gaming market completely? Not saying I want that, but given the current economic downturn wouldn't it make sense?
They'll probably leave the console market not the gaming market
You're delusional if you thiunk they're gonna leave gaming when they just acquired cash cows like King and CoD. They could just sit there, kick back and count the profits if they want. Downsizing is the best you could count on.
>They could just sit there, kick back and count the profits if they want.
That's all microsoft does these days. It's been nearly 2 decades since microsoft had a total lock on business software and they've been bleeding customers ever since and yet they consistently make frickloads of profit. How? Because they understand that their locked-in customers are locked in for the long haul and have been raping them on license costs. Per core, per socket licensing, ever increasing "pro" and "enterprise" license costs, Client Access Licenses ffs, subscriptions, cloud bullshit... It's making them plenty of cash, but they are pulling in more and more from fewer and fewer people and every price hike is another company that says frick it, we're going google docs and open source. Just growing fat off CoD and mobile shit doesn't last forever either, they needed NEW revenue streams that GROW in customer base and all they've achieved is ANOTHER high profit but dwindling clientele set of companies. Sure, today's buttholes-in-charge won't mind all the money coming in, and I'm sure they've gamed the bonus strategy to ensure their failure leads to big stacks of cash anyway, but failing is still failing, even if it takes another 5 years.
the reason ms won't sell anytime soon is precisely because they massively overpaid for activision (and bethesda) and will never recover what they spent by putting them back on the market. activision was already the biggest independent game publisher, there's no other that can afford to buy them. and though ms could shop them to other conglomerates looking for entry into the game industry (amazon), it'll likely be years before they're in the mood to buy something like that, and they aren't going to pay the premium that ms did. ms can't sell now even if they wanted to. the brands are depreciating by the day but they're still better off holding them until capital investment returns.
>Spending $85 billion just to downsize
Genius business strategy
Next to no chance at all. They'll be out of the console market after next gen, but Xbox isn't going anywhere. Not with Xbox being on basically everything, Gamepass as much as people here don't care for it, Xcloud, and other things.
Had the Activision/Blizzard merger failed I would've said 100%.
But now I think it's 0%.
I think they'll legit leave the console market
I could see them leaving the console market. If they do make a new console, I'd see it leaning more into the all-in-1 home entertainment fricking thing with download only.
Based on the current situation I'd reckon they'll just move on to the mobile gaming ecosystem instead because that's the REAL money as far as gaming market is concerned.
They're leaving the console market 100%
They're going to stay in the gaming market pushing their cancerous multiplat "game" services.
Netflix has games already so it seems like they want to hit the streaming game market first. Think about it being able to access your games on your tv, laptop, phone, maybe even switch since Microsoft and Nintendo seem so buddy buddy
They already did, Sony has done it as well.
Streaming is a meme, even on Movies/TV, fracturing all the shows in different streaming services due to every company rushing for gold has ironically killed it.
That's not their venue of approach, they're just going full multiplat GAAS.
Future is original internet content
None. They see how much Genshin makes and now they're trying to make their own Genshin.
Microsoft management doesn't know what it's doing. Microsoft's game publishing side in particular have always been complete morons allowing conmen to grift a shitload of money out of M$'s pockets, who have so much money they can afford to just set it on fire. I still remember when Brad was pumping them for money promising Vanguard would run on Xbox360 when that piece of shit barely even ran at all.
I hate that gaming companies have "obviously non-gamers that aren't interested in gaming" as execs. truly soulless. NO passion whatsoever.
The overlap between gaming passion and business acumen is probably smaller than you think it is. I hate suits as much as anyone else here, but let devs be devs.
money and shareholders interest (financial and political) are the worst
Just saw the clip. She didn’t even answer the question. So as an outsider (since idk this lady or play Xbox) they shut down a development stupid that made a good game and gave no explanation as to why. Seems shitty
A good game that sold like shit.
>vidya now exclusive to XBOX and Windows 11, only through the Microsoft Store
Win10, Pcbros, SNOYs, 9-10yearolds and Linuxpoors officially kill
You have nothing to blame but yourselves. You couldn't help yourself, you couldn't keep your hands off the western slop, but you just had to buy it because of FOMO. Dumb Black folk.
On the bright side, I hope all this dumb shit gets worse. The western vidya industry really needs to die so it can be reborn.
that color scheme doesn't evoke goyslop, if you want this meme to take off then you need to redo it
Isn't this type of shit kinda normal after a massive acquisition? Microsoft spent billions to buy so many companies and now they are gonna cut off the fat and shut down the studios that are not making money. Seems pretty normal and business as usual to me, even if it sucks balls for the people working there.
Not really and they promised the FTC this exact situation wouldn’t happen. Bethesda has been integrated for over 3 years.
To be honest, I don't think anyone would miss bethesda if they were dissolved completely. Maybe then Fallout would get a decent writer for a change.
Every redditor would commit suicide in unison if Bethesda was closed.
Bethesda fans have Blizzdrone tier brainrot.
>Every redditor would commit suicide in unison if Bethesda was closed.
Even better.
Everyone on the internet hates Bethesda now cause of Starfield
I've hated them since Skyrim, and that was my first TES game.
not when they do it right before announcing a massive new project, fricking it over and ensuring the newscycle for it will only be negative and the press will only ask questions like the OP
Makes it seem like the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing
That's because tango was owned by zenimax, were the ones to shutter the studio.
...anon, do you not know who zenimax is owned by? and therefore why Sarah Bond should know exactly why which studio would be closed?
I'm sure the reason the studio was closed was because hi fi rush sold like shit.
streaming games doesn't work since US internet is absolute shit for 99% of the country. they keep throwing that turd at the wall and it keeps sliding right off.
Can't tango just make a new studio without Microsoft? I'm sure they can get funding elsewhere with an amazing resume like Hi-Fi rush
Most of them probably moved on with Shinji Mikami already in his new studio. Either that or they're getting poached by Nintendo in their current company expansion.
>What the frick is going on at Xbox?
~~*shareholders*~~
When you drop 80 Billion dollars acquiring one of your biggest competitors, you have to start making money ASAP. This means firing huge amounts of people to save on payroll and only pumping out guaranteed money makers for as little effort as possible.
>shit company that has been shit for years is still shit
Wow
One more acquisition would surely fix the company! I think T2 would be nice.
>Implying they can
Even if the governmment would let them (which they wouldn't due to the latest shitshow),even if Take2 said yes, (which they wouldn't since executives get to keep everything for themselves with no daddy Microsoft to threaten them), the amount would be so absurdly large due to the amount of people and assets in Take2 and Rockstar along with the value alone of GTA that even Microsoft would never be able to pay that shit.
well duh shes a Black person and hasn't worked a day in her life
Dumb PR b***h, can clearly see how properly she was trained in mouthing off verbal diarrhea in order to provide as little insight or knowledge as possible. Fits in with Microsoft.
>the president is a non-white woman
Now it all makes sense
They made a mistake with Tango. From the beginning, I always thought they weren't a fit for the Xbox portfolio. The Evil Within and Ghostwire: Tokyo aren't games people in the Xbox market are interested in but they had a huge potential money maker with the Hi Fi Rush IP. I'm guessing PS5 sales weren't good enough and they thought it didn't have potential but that was their frick up for a late-stage release with little marketing.
They could have had Hi Fi Rush 2 developed for the Series, PS5, and Nintendo Switch 2. You've got the PS5's Dualsense and Switch 2's HD rumble ready to go. You've got a well liked IP and one of their only internal studios that actually to make a game at all.
Maybe all the licensed tracks made the game much more expensive than it looked. Who knows. It's a game worth getting on the disc because once the license for the songs are up, it's gone.
What do you expect? Tango Gameworks was a Japanese dev studio under western management, of course it's gonna be the first on the chopping block, that's all there is to it for them. Doesn't matter how well or not well the game did or was received. Which is even more ironic because a lot of what held the game back was the modern safe and diverse western cartoon slop visual design that you can bet wasn't a art direction the studio pushed for. What was likely the studio was the yjk cat bot that slipped past and is the only thing that occasionally still comes up about that game.
It still makes no sense. They had output. Ghostwire: Tokyo did pretty well on the PS5 and they followed right up with Hi Fi Rush. That right there shows they were efficient and well managed.
Compare that to The Initiative who never came up with a product, InExile that has a first-person game that looks like shit, Southern Midnight that nobody knows what the frick is even about, and Everwild that no one knows what the frick is about either.
They complained about a lack of output from 2022 and 2023. They were given an actual fricking product that had zero marketing at all and they now have the ability to deliver on two additional platforms, one is going to be brand new and a great market for it.
It makes no sense at all. Zero.
It makes all the sense when you consider that Microsoft is a gigantic company and that HiFi Rush was a mere moderate success with no long term MTX monetization attached to it.
They couldn't give less of a shit how much talent or potential the company had, they can't quanitify that and the company won't give them Bethesda/COD/King money so they're cutting the fat.
I do not care about twitter screenshots and the fact you LINKED twitter should get you automatically banned for 30 days.
Apparently the way Microsoft is firing/dismantling studios is "how long is it until their next game", and whether or not they're a core studio. As in most Call of Duty studios are core, Blizzard studios are core, Forza is core, and Halo is core (but even then they shitcanned all the 343i leads).
Tangoworks just finished Hi-Fi Rush last year, and was likely just starting Hi-Fi Rush 2 around now. Meaning nothing would come out of the studio for 3 years, maybe 4.
Ninja Theory is absolutely fricked when Hellblade 2 releases lmao
That's the dumbest fricking shit I ever heard which is why I believe it.
Arkane Austin (aka the live service Arkane studio) was still working on Redfall content so no real game in the wing, Tangoworks has nothing on the immediate horizon after Ghostwire Tokyo and Hi-Fi Rush, Alpha Dog studios was just mobileslop and they'll have King for that going forward, and the last one in the current wave is being absorbed since they were a support studio anyway.
Not him but Microsoft readily admits when shit flops, look up all the apologies for Redfall blowing or Halo Infinite sucking wieners. They were 100% adamant that Hi-Fi rush got a hefty influx on Game Pass despite less direct sales.
>when shit flops
So basically what happened with Hi-Fi Rush?
It did well. They want games like that that win awards and critical acclaim to keep people subbed on game pass.
https://www.ign.com/articles/xbox-exec-reportedly-told-staff-we-need-smaller-games-that-give-us-prestige-and-awards-a-day-after-shutting-down-hi-fi-rush-dev-tango-gameworks
It obviously didn't do well seeing how they shut tango down.
They shut it down because they can't produce another one for 3 to 4 years, and Microsoft wants them to cut spending NOW.
They're basically pawning all their assets to pay for the mortgage now that daddy Microsoft is cutting off the blank checks after the Activision sale, lmao
That makes sense, carry on.
Why do you believe in made up shit said on the internet? Arkane also got shuttered, most likely because of redfall, why would you think the same thing wouldn't happen to tango?
https://www.ign.com/articles/xbox-exec-reportedly-told-staff-we-need-smaller-games-that-give-us-prestige-and-awards-a-day-after-shutting-down-hi-fi-rush-dev-tango-gameworks
>an article talking about another article
Great source anon.
https://www.ign.com/articles/xbox-exec-reportedly-told-staff-we-need-smaller-games-that-give-us-prestige-and-awards-a-day-after-shutting-down-hi-fi-rush-dev-tango-gameworks
no prob
Continually posting the article will not change the fact hi fi rush was a financial failure.
>Promote Black person into management position.
>Have to close down a successful studio right after
Blacks are even more destructive than I thought.
How was tango a successful studio?
>disney is being sabotaged from within
>now xbox as well
russian sleeper agents doing it big, destroying the western propaganda machine
LOUDER FOR THE FOLK IN THE BACK
how do they manage to make even this about the race , and then they project white people do the ingroup shit while discriminating everyone else , what a load of projecting Black folk
No, he's right, and that was by design: make la creaturas come together to back this frickup on deranged amerishart social dynamics.
Why the frick would I feel bad about someone getting grilled for fricking up, and getting paid 6 figures for fricking up?
>promoted her to take the heat
yeah, this is what I thought when she was announced. doesn't seem wrong so far.
But I thought we were supposed to put more black people in charge?
>We want smaller games that can produce awards and accolades
You mean literally Tango Gameworks that you JUST shutdown??????????
Microsoft is a schizo company
You know it's fricked up when Japs talk openly like that. Well, they might as well cut their losses and move on to Kamuy or Nintendo at this point.
Booty forgot to update that talking point, it's been a hard week for him
he meant to say "You better be working on the next Elder Scrolls or Fallout or you're next"
>NInja Theory and Obsidian are next on the chopping block
Tameem had an urge and left at the right time.
Don't stop there, you got Double Fine and Compulsion Games too. Their best hope is to get a deal ala Toys for Bob, no way they fit into whatever Microsoft's new plan is for studios going forwards
Double Fine still exists?
I know, right? I don't even know what they're working on after Psychonauts 2, would've figured they would be first in line for something like this purely for being a San Fran studio. Can't be cheap to keep them around
They're probably safe.
>Compulsion Games
I have no idea what that is, but add MachineGames to the list.
Not for long.
>but add MachineGames to the list.
They're making Indiana Jones game, they'll be fine till it comes out.
Yeah, exactly, it's already scheduled. Indiana Jones is gonna get slammed so hard with MS not paying for press because of that.
Compulsion are the We Happy Few guys which Microsoft picked up to be one of the 'Smaller games that win awards' guys for gamepass and, well, we saw how well that worked out.
Their next game is South of Midnight, which'll be lucky if it does anywhere near Hi-Fi Rush.
>they say this just when the studio shuts down
The past weekend and now has been a ride.
I hope the devs there are able to get work, they're one of the teams that did put out decent games.
I actually bought Hi-Fi Rush after pirating and trying it, because I enjoyed the shit out of the game. It was honestly just refreshingly fun and it's a shame to see that work go up in smoke.
Microsoft destroys everything they touch, you should know this by now.
Is it true that Sarah Bond said that MS will continue to bring day 1 Goypass games and are committed to bring new hardware?
I've seen people reporting on it but I can't find the source
built for BWC
I hate suits so much it's unreal. Soulless miserly automatons.
So what was her answer to why they shut down Tango Gameworks?
You guys think with enough backlash, it's possible for them to reverse the decision to close down the studios? At the very least reverse killing Tango?
No. And the japs are throwing a public fit to bait snoy or ninteᥒd𐐬 to pick them up, that won't work either.
No way, as far as they're concerned, Tango is the sole outsider considering they're the only Jap studio Microsoft Gaming has, hence it's easy to gut them.
I hope gaming dies in my lifetime
It won't but you'll live long enough to see AAA die.
Why is a brown woman who hates video games in that position?
Welcome to DEI
American industry culture.
for the same reason a brown woman who hates video games was invited to lecture them about why video games are evil and how they promote muhsoggyknees
Competency crisis.
It's easy mate
>zero percent interest rates for a decade
>big companies borrow a bunch of free money
>buy out every studio and company they can
>if it doesn't work out it doesn't matter because not paying interest, i.e., no consequences for dumb choices
>inflation hits like a mf
>suddenly all the free money ain't so free anymore
>firesale or shutdown all the poor investments from before, destroying small companies, keeping IPs, and leaving no competitors
tl;dr Ron Paul was right, blame the Fed
She really is a scapegoat.
>scapegoat
My dude her title is literally PRESIDENT of Xbox. She is responsible just as much as Phil Spencer and the ass guy
She reports to Phil Spencer, he is her superior in the hierarchy. Despite the fact that Phil is far more responsible for the state of Xbox than Sarah is, people defend Phil and come up with all kinds of excuses to cover for his ass because he isn't a black woman.
Hi bunkertroon.
>no argument
>just moronic insults
Thanks for admitting defeat.
You're welcome bunkertroon.
Over two hours later and that's what you came up with?
Naturally, they're incompetent and getting by through handouts and freebies. Phil actually worked to get where he is.
Congratulations on immediately proving my point.
There is no point and you are not human. More insightful exchanges can be had with a decade old bot.
You're just repeating yourself and projecting like a schizophrenic despite not having a point
You won't even make it to 30s, flesh pile animated by propaganda.
You haven't been correct even once in this thread. It's impressive how moronic you are.
You can spasm and scream and shit yourself even harder than you normally do, not even on the internet you hold any power. You have failed in every regard, you are alone because you deserve it.
were you cut off from oxygen during an extended period during birth
Yes, but they put the house Black there to keep la creaturas on twitter scared to criticize her.
its just a name, people behind the scenes do everything
why anyone gives microsoft (or snoy or EA etc) money is beyond me. even if it's "for the devs", their studio clearly will get shut down either way so why reward shitty publisher behaviour
Shit devs made shit games nobody cared about and got fired. That's it. That's the story. You can all stop pretending to care now.
>bb-b-b-b-but my favorite youtuber like this ultra-shitty niche title, Xbox should have carried this deadweight title forever durrhurr
Okay bootlicker
She's the culture that killed gaming for the past decade, I will not feel sorry for a Black person executive that doesn't care about games let alone is being paid to produce communist propaganda and gender politics mental illness to destroy and brainwash children
Xbox is in a Schrödinger's cat paradox. Microsoft can’t view Xbox as this small division of gaming dudebros anymore. It's bigger than Windows revenue post Activision-Blizzard now. But with all the changes it just became Neo Activision with Microsoft Studios subsidiaries asterisk and a vanity niche console that's a net loss every year. So in a way Xbox brand being alive is pointless because what exists today is not even Xbox anymore.
>It's bigger than windows revenue
Do you read what you type?
With Activision Blizzard, they may be right.
Boomers. Look up who owns Candy Crush.
>It's bigger than Windows revenue
Nearly 300 posts and only one person mentioned Hellblade 2. An Xbox console exclusive dropping in 2 weeks. Y'all better buy it to save NinjaTheory from the fate of Tango.
Nobody even remembers Bleeding Edge. Its been completely memoryholed
Bleeding Edge had this woke character designs
I am happy it failed so hard MS took it down and no one can play it ever again
I never asked for a snoymovie sequel to a timed exclusive that wasn't even on Xbox at launch. They bought NT because they couldn't buy Remedy.
You will buying buy it by proxy with your Game Pass rent dosh.
I won't even be downloading it. Starting TZ playthrough in Unicorn Overlord.
How fricked is Ninja Theory Ganker? Their game is going to flop obv.
Beyond fricked. Xhomos generally expect more gameplay than snoys do.
>Zero marketing whatsoever aside from one tweet from Xbox with the game 2 weeks away
>'smaller games that win awards' meme
>their founder already bailed like Molyneux did before Lionhead got put down
death flags everywhere, it's kind of sad
>Cavewoman autistic walking sim (really not a hyperbole)
Xbox has a small playerbase that's closer to GameCube and Xbox classic with even fewer people who buy games. The core demographic are male sports fans. NinjaTheory has 6 months before closure when Hellblade 2 flops.
At least Enslaved Odyssey to the West is a nice coomer game. They left this world on a good mark.
Hellblade 2 won't flop, even if MS won't pay for the press it's an ugly woman roaring to the camera, troony bloggers will eat it up.
I always thought Xbox's player base was "dude bros".
Not since Xbone, remember the watercooler. The crimers all moved to Playstation and made it a second Apple for no good reason.
>remember the watercooler
Whats that referring to?
>make your console focused on tv
>at a time when cord cutting started becoming mainstream
lol
>buy
Isn't this on Game Pass? This shit won't sell.
>Buy
lmao. I will play it once on gamepass. that's it.
>but-
not my problem.
that shit was announced half a decade ago, i completely lost interest a long time ago
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! HELP ME Ganker!
Pffthahaha, I forgot about that one. God, sycophants getting their due is so satisfying.
The sycophants are running the company though.
Sure Parkin, clap harder to the next gorilla you see, that'll save you.
This really makes me wonder about the other studios. MDHR who did Cuphead are owned by Microsoft and obviousely they have some big ambitons. Plus other stuidos like Double Fine who have horrible track records somehow are still alive and seem to have not even a toe in the pool.
>MDHR
they are not owned by Microsoft
they just did a publishing deal with them that expired.
I unironically hope 343 is next. Frick 'em. I don't care if it means there won't be any more Halo. At least it can rest in peace and never be shat over again. 343 doesn't deserve to stay operational.
343 isn't going anywhere. And even if they were, they aren't even close to being the first ones in line for getting axed.
Here's what Sarah Bond does at Xbox
She was not prepared for the question lol
why did MS even buy Ninja theory
face scan tech and tribal knowledge on it. that's about it
That's some serious DEI infestation they got
>What happened
Xbox was ran by vindictive morons that wanted to buy Publishers to "Buy Sony out of the industry" and convinced the overheaded Microsoft to fund this buyout under the guys that it was going to cause a massive surge in Xbox players
Lowe and behold, not only did the news in 2022 not cause a surge of players, Microsoft would see a decrease of revenue from gaming over the following year and Warzone would go from chart topper to flopper as the covid restrictions and lockdown stopped, so the huge gold rush of venture capital buying out gaming became a shitshow of companies having to cut costs because they weren't going to be money printers like they expected
Now Microsoft panicked and killed multiple studios, likely they thought it would be good to kill Tango because it was a Japanese team despite producing the most popular Xbox game in a decade
Its one thing to put DEI into art and customer service roles, everyone does that for the tax benefits.
But putting a diversity hire in charge is fricking moronic.
Feels like XBAWKS saw sony being pissed on and thought to themselves "THAT IS MY PISS!"
I've noticed you can't muster a comeback to any of those, sweaty.
nah just your mom after I bust a fat nut on her face and your dad has to lick it off
here's four more making it about race like a b***h
Your concession? Accepted.
You need to have an argument before there can be a concession. All you have is deflection from your hypocrisy.
Revoked.
No refunds, but do keep trying to get out of that hole with redditor reasoning, it's too much fun to watch.
Redditor reasoning is when you claim a concession after you lose the argument and you got called out on your hypocrisy
Concession revoked.
And you can't dispute any of them
Here's why the studios were shut down
>Game Pass kills sales
>the Activision acquisition left Xbox with a financial hole
Literally killed so that we could get more CoDshit and Blizzardshit. You happy Ganker?
>Microsoft will kill CoD
Yes I am happy
>Xbox promises that CoD won't be released on a yearly basis anymore
>Xbox getting fricked up
>Now CoD is back to square one
Lmao they didn't even manage to get the ball rolling on that
there is also the possibility they expected all these studios to become support studios FOR cawadoody so it would become M$' Fortnite, but they said no and pitched for something new.
who?
former Microsoft PR manager
Can't you read buddy? CoD won't go anywhere. Have you seen What Activision did to the franchise? Nothing but shit games and shit updates and it's still too big to fail.
Microsoft will fricking run CoD into the ground like they did with Halo, the devs are already on their last legs and no one wants to make the 2025 release, Microsoft is still debating to either release an entire new Game Pass tier or not release CoD on game pass at all because the revenue loss of not selling a new $70 CoD would be an insane revenue loss and so Microsoft is either going to release a broken CoD made by temp workers or break the yearly cycle
Does this motherfricker think redfall could've been good?
Does Microsoft?
Because Arkane devs literally BEGGED Microsoft to cancel Redfall. It began development way before the acquisition so that Bethesda could have a fashionable Live Service game in a portfolio to sell itself for more.
Microsoft just wanted a Game Pass fodder so they didn't care and told them to continue the development. The rest is history.
Halo was never as big as CoD now. It will take them like 10 years to ruin CoD. I hjave no doubt they will destroy it, but don't count on it happening fast.
Oh so arkane deserved the boot then.
>Arkane deserved the boot for a game they were forced to make
>was so shit a making games they made a shit game
Other way around.
So, they sabotaged the game then?
You're the one sucking off gam devs anon.
Bethesda and Microsoft sabatoged the game. And you're the one sucking Xbox off.
>sabotaged
There's nothing to sabotage, Redfall was gonna be a flop no matter what, it was literally only made for the purpose of making Bethesda look good for Xbox to buy, when it DID happen Arkane hoped Phil or someone would be able to tell it looked like ass and let them scrap it so they could work on something they actually want to work on
>was so shit at making games they forced Arkane to make a shit game
Fixed.
Xbox is shit.
Redfall was in production long before microsoft bought bethesda. It even got delayed for a year.
So arkane is shit a making games then?
>So arkane is shit a making games then?
Yes, very. They 100% deserved to get shut down.
(me)
I am trans by the way, in case that matters
I'm not a troony.
I am which is why I said arkane is shit at making games and 100% deserved to get shut down
Arkane 100% deserved to be shut down, and I am not a troony. Your coping won't bring the company back.
You are 100% trans and moronic
Cope. Your beloved Arkane is dead, and never coming back.
Your wretched penis has been cut off and is never coming back. Cope.
Xbox is fricking trash btw.
>So arkane is shit a making games then?
>So Arkane who was forced to make something they don't dabble in shit at making games?
>forced to
>don't dabble in
They're a game studio. If they can't dabble in games why should they even exist
Don't be a reductive moron, you don't force a dev whose primary genre being single player FPS games into making a shitty L4D knock off and expect a gangbuster, there's no timeline where Redfaill was anything other than a flop
I swear bethesda hates arkane, between the prey drama and redfall it's like that studio was setup to fail
>they're a game studio so they should only exist if they can make looter shooter slop
>forced to
They weren't forced to do anything could have left like the rest but didn't. They own the failure of redfall just like they own the closing of arkane.
>They weren't forced to do anything could have left
Over 70% of them did. Can you read Black person?
I did and 30% still remained. All 100% of them shitty game designers too. God help the other studios the land at.
You are profoundly moronic.
Xbox owns the failure of redfall just like they own the closing of arkane. They were repeatedly asked by the developers to cancel the project and most of them left the studio when Xbox said no and insisted on releasing it.
Redfall was being made specifcally so Bethesda could sweeten the deal for the Microsoft buy out, and most of its production was under Xbox . Over 70% of the staff who worked on Prey had left the company by the time production on Redfall ended, again under Xbox .
Xbox is shit at making games, so they bought a bunch of devs studios to make games for them, and had them make shit games because all anyone at Microsoft knows how to do is make shit games.
>So arkane is shit a making games then?
they haven't released a single good game since dingo babadook took over. they've been ESG DIE trash for the better part of a decade and I only wish they killed it entirely instead of just shuttering the austin office.
Frick off bootlicker
mar is so mid
do they not know which thing they care about more? you can't pump gamepass and pump game sales numbers at the same time
also sonygays dont have gamepass anyway so they still have to buy cod copies
the easy solution for cod on xbox is no cod gamepass until the second season starts, so you get the pump of sales at launch and then gamepass subs from people on the fence months later
Who is Sarah Bond and what happened to Phil Spencer?
People hate on Phil but he's the one who brought games over when nobody would like PSO2.
TLDR; Xbox is run by Phil Spencer's sycophants.
You and the rest of the media just keep blaming Phil because it's easier to feed the narrative that way. She's a black woman which means nobody in the media is going to point a finger at her
Same energy. Someone pissed him off there, and he axed the entire studio like 3 days later. lmao
Phil Spencer is CEO of Microsoft Gaming
Sarah Bond is President of Xbox
Phil is the still top person in charge of Microsoft's gaming division, but Sarah is basically number two.
TEIAI GURUUPU NUMBER TWO!
>Phil doing anything
Sega wanted to use microsoft's clouds, it wouldn't have happen otherwise. It's not even exclusive, so who cares
>Tango Gameworks was a Japanese video game developer based in Tokyo. Founded in March 2010 by Shinji Mikami, previously of Capcom, the company was acquired by ZeniMax Media in October that year after suffering financial issues.
>instead of being honourary aryan and going broke
>he sold to a israelite, who then sold to another israelite and finally went bankrupt
Don't care, I just hate that homosexual phil so damn much.
how do you not follow up that bs non answer?
Coporate moronas, too big to fail.
I find it hilarious that Sarah Bond is always the public facing brown girl sacrificial lamb. Her role is completely artificial and represents basically no real value other than sending her to the trenches when shit gets messy. You can see it in her dead eyes.
>Tango got axe'd cause their games did not line up with their diversity bullshit agenda.
>Arkane got axe'd cause their games were all driven by the diversity bullshit agenda
Classic Ganker
lmao this fricking simping for her is utterly ridiculous. She does not get special treatment just because you want to frick her. She is part of the c-suite team and is doing an utterly shit job just like Phil Spencer and Matt Booty.
She deserves the axe just like Phil and Matt.
I agree, but Phil and Matt booty did nothing wrong and do not deserve to be fired. This is all on her.
They could fire Phil, Matt, and Sarah, and replace them with randos from Ganker, and Xbox would be in a better situation.
The thing is, Sarah Bond is the definition of a corpo rat. You can hate Phil Spencer and Matt Booty, but at the very least their careers came from within Microsoft. They know video games. Sarah Bond is from fricking AT&T and knows absolutely NOTHING about video games yet still landed a "President" of Xbox title. She is literally the least trustworthy person on the executive team.
None of them are trustworthy. Phil Spencer and Matt Booty "know video games" just makes it even more pathetic and embarrassing that they're running Xbox like this.
they know games but don't know business.
They don' know either. Take any random anon off Ganker from 15 years ago, let them run the company and xbox would be in a better state now than it is under Phil and Booty.
>believing anything or anyone on Ganker
>ever
Anon... you're an idiot.
Why should I believe you?
Idiot.
Not gonna defend them, but on top of that there are shareholders that could topple their shitty work with their own shitty decisions.
Publically traded companies will never be trustworthy
WAHHH WAHHHA WHY ARE YOU SO RACIST TOWARDS US, WE ONLY WANT TO DEMORALIZE YOU AND HATE WHITE MEN, WE LOVE VIDEO GAMES SO MUCH WE OUTSOURCE ALL OUR WORK TO INDIA TO DELIVER THE LOWEST QUALITY CONTENT POSSIBLE
YOU GUYS ARE THE REAL RACISTS WAAA WAAAA WAAA
have a nice day YOU Black personhomosexual SUBHUMAN
Having a meltie again /misc/?
HEY BUNKERtroony SUBHUMAN CHOKE AND DIE ON YOUR COMMIE Black personhomosexual GARBAGE
EAT SHIT AND DIE FREAK
You're definitely not mad.
I think xbox as a brand is DOA, quite frankly Phil Spencer has mismanaged it and just cant turn the ship around. Disagree with the argument some are making online about "well Phil is for the gamers if some corpo suit takes his place things will get worse!!" well shit things are bad NOW, at least with a corpo suit I know what I'm getting upfront instead of Phil's fake persona of "hey I'm a GAYMER just like you guys" with his lame tshirts while holding a knife in his back still shutting down studios.
Xbox will go full 3rd party, it just seems inevitable and we're ate the "rearranging chairs at the titanic" stage of things
Do you know what DOA even means, moron?
It's funny because anon's moronic logic of forcing studios to make multiplayer crap instead of the games those studios are good at making was Tim Ryan's whole strategy at Playstation lol
i like how people defend her no answer? No wonder we are living in this timeline, you can be a clown and people praise you.
She's a Black person anon. She had no answer because Black folk can't reason.
What was the reaction of Ganker when the purchase of Activision-Blizzard news came?
Mostly happiness about the potential of mutually assured destruction and snoy suffering.
Ganker cheered it on out of pure spite against sony, and the prospect of free COD on gamepass (lol). Pic related got a nice fat payout of $500 million from it too, remember that the next time you see Ganker ranting about israelites or demanding you denounce the talmund or whatever.
>how do they manage to make even this about race
Blacks will Blacks.
Hifi rush shitted & flopped, simple as.
>The news we announced earlier in the week is an outcome of that, in our commitment to make sure that the business is healthy for the long term.
Poor, poor multi-trillion dollar company, barely surviving in these tough times. Why won't you feel sorry for these struggling souls?
>what a load of projecting Black folk
there's a joke in this.
Yeah, the anon who originally posted it.
>bond, sarah bond
Hi Fi Rush was a good game but a bad game for the worst reasons. The mechanics were sound, but the choice of music behind the entire mechanic was absolutely awful.
Anyone that thinks music like "The Black Keys" is anything beyond the most bland bullshit ever needs to kill themselves.
The trailer for this game with "Lonely Boy" in it literally deleted potential sales of the game, I can assure you.
>He didn't play it with an original soundtrack
Yeah, because Lonely Boy totally isn't a well remembered song that's right in that sweet spot of being nostalgic but not retro. You're a fricking moron on every goddam level.
Hi Fi Rush sucked and Tango 100% deserved to be shut down, and I am not a troony. Your coping won't bring the company back.
Here you go, since you seem desperate.
Your concession? Accepted.
I do indeed concede that you are being incorrect on purpose and that's okay we all have hobbies.
No refunds, but do keep trying to get out of that hole with redditor reasoning, it's too much fun to watch.
>No refunds
???
>I do indeed concede
Thanks!
No seriously what are you talking about for refunds? You don't get to play tennis while we're playing checkers and then claim Monopoly.
>we're playing checkers
???
Exactly, that's how nonsense and confusing you were for just whipping out "No refunds" after I (You)'d you like I was supposed to know what that means.
You're just repeating yourself and projecting like a schizophrenic despite not having a point
So are you, you fricking spastic. Explain what you meant by "no refunds".
>no u
Pathetic.
If you're not a troony (unlikely) I really hope you actually are mentally moronic. You can't have an opinion that fricking stupid without being one or the other.
Cope. Your beloved Tango is dead, and never coming back.
This unironically rationalizes piracy even more because this hard-confirms that it literally doesn't matter if your favorite game does well anymore. No amount of support of a dev matters. The endless struggle for big number fast overshadows everything.
you should go back to chimping out in all caps
Xbox president is Black woman?
No wonder they fricking dying and do retarted thing.
I feel like this anon is Chinese
hi bunkertroony
Kek.
Alright, corpo-human translation:
>Don't fricking ask me b***h, they weren't making enough money and some other suits demanded that we cut some costs, that's why they're gone.
Why is no one at the head of Microsoft gaming actually responsible for what happens at Microsoft gaming
These people have stacked CVs and skills to back it up, they will get another job sooner than later. Why do you feel so sorry for them?
Half of Ganker are unemployed failures, it feels so surreal to read these reactions. Who gives a frick. Also, The Evil Within sucked.
>oh no megacorporation is laying off people
/x/
Ko nichiwa minisan
Xsueboxsuno Sarahdes
I wish I had a job as a ms executive.
They literally can do the stupidest shit and not be fired, while still getting promoted and paid millions a year.
Easiest job in the world.
Gamepass basically trained Xbox users into never buying games, Microsoft forgot that the Netflix way of thing requires that take a lost for at least a decade till they have enough to sustain their ecosystem everyone that wants to create the “Netflix of gaming” doesn’t seems to understand this
>Sarah Bond
Wait is this an Indian woman pretending she's black?
>ctrl+f nig, dei
>100 matches
>ctr+f mckinsey
>0 matches
*sip*
She doesn't actually dodge the question. People just arent listening. She's saying that to microsoft the game wasn't successful and every game and studio have their own unique targets they need to hit. She says it in a wishy washy woman way. But that's what she is saying. The game wasn't successful to them.
>She's saying that to microsoft the game wasn't successful
They spent the last year and a half telling everyone it was successful
>One game was genuinely shadow-dropped and sold on a business model that made it no money
>The other was made against the dev's will, created exactly how Microsoft wanted it making every poor choice possible complete with releasing a game no one wanted even after poor reception in beta
>surprised both weren't successful
HiFi Rush did better than the throwaway game it was meant to be, but it doesn’t make up for 2 years of AAA + 1 year of AA development costs incurred by Tango doing nothing since the releases of their last two games, not for Mikami laving.
The executives at Arcane did want Redfall to be made, and it was in development for years before Microsoft owned them.
All this means is that the next time anyone at Xbox or their fans say that a game is successful, there's no reason to believe them since they have no credibility now.
A AA game being successful means nothing for a AAA studio. Were Tango in American instead pf Japan, they would have moved the HiFi Rush team under another studio, but that isn’t an option for their single Japanese studio.
Just saying, those excuses might work for redfall, but when you take every opportunity to tell people your game is successful and it wins a bunch of awards that you need more games like it, no one reasonable is going to believe you when you say any of your games are successful in the future.