>A design so perfect they've kept it nearly the same for over 20 years
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>A design so perfect they've kept it nearly the same for over 20 years
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Epic, the data mine from back then was real, guess Jam is coming some time later.
Details?
Awhile back a somewhat warped Xrd model for Johnny was found in the game, after some tinkering someone threw his Xrd textures on it and it was a perfect match. Beyond some other story mode character models Jam was also randomly there.
Was Dizzy also there? Please
Yes actually, but in her housewife costume and not her fighter model, so it probably was for cutscene purposes only unless they decide to adapt her in that costume.
I wouldn't mind the housewife costume, since that's what she actually is now.
I main Ky so I don't want my wife to dress like a bawd anymore
You saying that you think it's more likely that she was there only for cutscene purposes because of her costume?
There are cutscene and gameplay models for all the characters. Ram had a casual outfit in Xrd rev story mode that is completely different from her gameplay model. Story models are simpler and have none of the extra bits for gameplay, like the models for thier attacks and smear frames. This seems similar.
That's a shame, I was confident that Dizzy would show up in this season, but now I think she might never show up in Strive.
Also, am I the only one who finds it odd that Strive is getting too many male characters as a DLC? Normaly it's the other way around, isn't it?
It was about half and half during Xrd.
Yeah, though I've never watched the dumb movie thing so I have no idea if she actually goes used. I think the only place she was seen was in the credits, though Testament's new design was also there well before the reveal so hard to say.
>Testament's new design was also there well before the reveal
It wasn't. The story mode had a 2d image of his classic XX design far in the background for the ending with everyone. Maybe it got patched now that he has a new design, but it definitely wasn't the new design before the reveal.
Who cares if she doesn't try to rape bridget.
That reminds me; what are the odds they give Johnny a unique intro with Bridget calling back to this?
Imagine if he's still messed up by the memory of it, but now Bridget is like "actually I'm a girl now" and he gets solace from that alone?
And then tries to hit on her again.
>thank god I'm not gay
would be funny
they won't do anything, he doesn't even have special dialogue with May
he was part of the crew for a while so theres gotta be something, i havent played strive but if may blows briget off then johnny will too probably
>but now Bridget is like "actually I'm a girl now"
>Johnny's face
Johnny should absolutely still see and treat Bridget as a guy, but the writing team clearly doesn’t have the balls for that.
Oh God that's what they're going to do, aren't they
johnny will say trans rights
Bridget is so cool. Too bad they mistreated him so heavily.
>Jam is coming
Place you bets anons - will they remove the nipples?
New outfit without panties or nipples. New hairstyle. Her command run will only have puff puff with the second as an auto followup if the first hits or the dash through. Only 1 card that works with all her kick specials charging it a second time will let it work on 2 of them in one combo.
She won't have cards at all, that's too complicated for Strive.
Asuka literally plays an entire TCG mid-fight with his spells. Three cards is nothing.
Sin's calorie gauge was too complicated so it turned into an automatically regenerating stamina bar, Johnny having coins and levels is too complicated so it's just gone and replaced with cards, Bedman deja vu got automated and simplified, Baiken's guard cancels and azami got turned into a single counter, and that's just the DLC
Jam is probably going to have some sort of gimmick mechanic but there's very little chance she keeps her current one as it is, literally every other legacy character with any sort of unique mechanic had it simplified significantly
Maybe she'll have one card that just buffs her next kick or a regenerating kick gauge that lets her chain them together and loses the powered up versions or something, but I'd be amazed if she gets to keep even just individual charged cards for each kick special, let alone max cards and stacking them
also parry is 100% turning into a regular counter move too, if she even keeps it
She will have a 2nd meter that she gains over time that she can spend for better kicks
>cards
lol, lmao even. jam is unironically too complicated for strive
Happy Chaos has to manually reload his bullets. Cards are not too out there for Strive
No he doesn't he just uses his super
no she's not.
I posted about it here
but the model found was her Xrd model, not a new model, so it's likely just going to be a Jack-O/Baiken situation where they simply pretty up the Xrd model.
No? Jam's model is new, I thought everyone knew this already.
Meh, boring character. Imo Johnny is also lame and always played by absolute degens.
Yeah, never really cared for Jam. It'd be more interesting to see Paradigm, Izuna, Gabriel or Raven tbh.
If she is coming, she is doing so this year...hopefully.
Dead troony game
too easy
He also makes a semi-retired VA keep coming back just for him, as one of the roles he reprises if asked, Norio fricking Wakamoto.
I fricking love Norio Wakamoto so much its unreal
Imagine that awful world where Wakamoto and Nakata completely retire.
Sho Hayami's pretty old now too. What are some good jap voices left?
my boys
RIP Blazblue
Yeah me too buddy
What does Wakamoto do anymore? Just Cell & Johnny?
and toku
Wakamoto only works on previous roles that still get new works today, and that he is attached to, that's what it means to be "semi-retired" as Wakamoto no longer works for new roles, he just reprises roles that is sure to make him work just once in a year at best.
That's surprisingly honorable considering I assume the reason is to not pass away and leave a character in the position of needing to get a new voice. But I also hope Wakamoto lives forever.
>This might be his last voice acting gig considering he might croak any day now
Bros...
Just enjoy him while he is still here
Just like people did with slayer's VA mid rev2
It's okay, we got AI now
AI is soulless, Johnny is already coinless I don't want it to get worse than it already is
the coins are shit, cards seem way more interesting.
>Le setplay card
It's literally a shittier version of +R coins
Did they give any info on Season 3 system changes or those new moves?
He looks cool(because he's basically unchanged) but they also seem to have removed coins and levels entirely, and while the card thing is potentially an interesting replacement every other Strive re-imagining of a legacy mechanic has been fricking trash so I'm not very hopeful.
tl;dr: only some characters get new moves, including May and fricking Ram
the new system mechanics are Drive Rush and Drive Parry but they cost half your burst gauge. Yes that says Burst, not tension.
>Drive Rush and Drive Parry
nice they added the worst mechanics ever created in fighting game history
I'm presuming that the cards intend to replace the level system. Instead of hitting them when coins, you stick the cards to them, and then you get the stronger hit. No Lv1-2-3, and presumably the cards won't persist as long as a coin would
>new moves
Faust getting to store items look fukken cool. Will love to see what Krakatoa comes up with it
>new mechanics
Really should've just brought back Slashback and Blitz instead
cards don't stick to them, they either hang in the air or sit on the ground where he throws them(which is an projectile) and then hitting the card with mist finer makes it explode for a launch that lets you combo
Is drive parry not just strive's version of sb? Given that it's probably going to be butchered in comparison. And I didn't play a lot of Rev but I never used blitz, found that it was obtuse and broke the flow of my gameplay often. This new guard crush shit has already been shilled hard, so I'm dreading it's inclusion personally.
slashback and blitz both made you block highs and lows correctly
>is it not just Strive's version
I wouldn't say so, but I guess it depends on how far one wants to stretch the whole "Strive's version" thing, as one could say it's different enough that the two don't occupy the same role but fit into the flows of their respective games
>found that it was obtuse and broke the flow of gameplay
That was part of the appeal, I'd say. More the breaking of the flow of gameplay, as it was a random kick to the nuts of a cup check that had a chance to shift the momentum when used right. Really good proactive offensive defense, in a way. Plus it had some purpose in taking away the opponent's Burst gauge, so you could steal some wins if you hit it while going for a kill. This new dash mechanic is instead gonna be heavily character dependent, with only some of them getting the big armored rush move that Blitz was, so I'm a bit disappointed, although the prospect of using Burst to do things you'd normally spend Tension on with RCs for extensions is interesting.
Why in god's name would anyone use a mechanic like slashback in Strive where 1 mistake causes you to take 80% damage and give your opponent a free bar off wallbreak.
>Strive IB: 2 frame window, safe to whiff if you time it early but still risky if you're late, prevents chip damage, prevents pushback, gives a little meter, doesn't change frame advantage at all, still considered a really important and rewarding mechanic at high level
>Slashback: 2 frame window, unsafe to barely whiff early but can be safe if you're late because it disables block but you can still SB the next thing, prevents chip damage, gives a bit of meter on success, costs 2% tension to attempt, and reduces blockstun to 3 frames
>not reduces blockstun by 3f, removes all but 3f
if you SB Strive Sol's c.S it would go from +3 to -13
even if he did immediately c.S>f.S if you SB the c.S you can interrupt him with any button faster than 8f
Slashback as it was in +r would break Strive over its knee
Messing up an IB usually leaves you blocking anyway while messing up SB leaves you open to getting hit or even on some moves that can be special cancelled you can get fricked up if they notice you going for it. The risk/reward of SB is part of what gives +R so much depth. It doesn't work in Strive where the simplest bnbs do moron damage, it would almost never be worth it.
it makes literally everything but mashing P or hail mary c.S>DP punishable, often with a c.S and often a counterhit if they tried to do literally anything else(and even that would lose to SB>throw) for being no more difficult than the IBs people are already doing, and only moderately riskier. It's not counterhit recovery or anything, the punish is no worse than trying to fuzzy jump and getting hit in jump startup.
You're crazy if you don't think that would warp literally every interaction around it
That's only on paper because IB should already warp a lot of interactions and matchups, but it doesn't. People in Strive barely take advantage of IB and it's a much lower risk defensive tool. It's actually sad how shit some character's pressure is in this game where the reduction in pushback can completely gut their attempts to even end their blockstrings safely. Strangely, barely anybody complains about this because nobody outside of very high level play even tries to IB. Meanwhile a character like HC has free reign to do what they want regardless of how you use mechanics like fd/ib/yrc.
none of that has anything to do with timing a SB press correctly during someone's blockstring all but guaranteeing you a c.S counterhit starter
No one uses IB because it does basically nothing outside the handful of specific interactions that rely on removing pushback to take advantage of their framedata
If that shit guaranteed you a 60% damage combo of your own people would be mashing on it like crazy
look at every other defensive option in the game that actually does something, Backdash or DP or YRC or jump or mash or throw etc, it's no riskier than any of them and literally four times as rewarding
The point is that you WON'T time it correctly. You're not gamer enough.
how many times during a high level match do you see a successful IB?
Good players can hit it with reasonable consistency. Obviously they'll explode for it sometimes, but you explode for trying anything sometimes in Strive, and smart usage isn't going for it constantly(but a lot of people will), but the reward for landing it is fricking huge and it just existing would make any of the current things that people IB decently often massively more risky to attempt, which includes shit like just doing c.S>f.S. Even if you're only successful half the time it's still significantly in your favour.
>Slashback and Blitz instead
>and
They both serve the same fricking purpose moron
>Drive Parry
It doesn't look like drive parry at all. It looks more like Force Break.
are you getting force break confused for something else? it's nothing like forcebreaks
it's not exactly like drive parry since it has a deflection thing that knocks the attacker back instead of just being absolute guard on a button, but I can't think of any other "spend a resource to block literally everything automatically and the only counter is throw" system mechanics so drive parry it is.
Maybe that's what Reversal Edge was? I never played SC6
Yes. I meant dead angle attack.
oh
I can kind of see it, but not really, at least judging from the trailer
dead angle is just an invincible guard cancel attack, like cross counter or drive reversal or whatever
Deflect Shield seems like some combination of Drive Parry and marvel pushblock
Doesn't drive parry still have high low interaction?
nope, the only thing that beats it is throw
forcebreaks are EX moves, if anything that new mechanic is basically pushblock
>removed the coins
man, I hope it is not true. i kind of feel like removing something so integral to the characters to be fricking moronic.
Imagine if ryu didn't have tatsus or hugo didn't have his claps?
not evne that much of a gg fan and i ahte fighting baikens and johnnys in any gg game but i feel they changed a little too much.
>Imagine if ryu didn't have tatsus or hugo didn't have his claps?
Chipp lost teleports and Faust has no pogo. Most of the cast lost huge parts of their gameplay so that people didn't have to learn anything about the game to play.
Black person have you SEEN what they've done to all the returning characters? Coin removal sounds exactly like something Strive would do
>Black person have you SEEN what they've done to all the returning characters?
yes, which is exactly what I am talking about.
>Potemkin with drive rush
If the new mechanics give Pot an easier time in neutral I might give the game another chance
Why does everything cost 50%?! I wish we got some 25% options
But then again, it cost burst so yea. But its that uses burst.
>He looks cool(because he's basically unchanged) but they also seem to have removed coins and levels entirely
Yes he is almost completely reworked for Strive as pretty much all characters have been.
>every other Strive re-imagining of a legacy mechanic has been fricking trash
Opinion, for Strive they have been reimagined very well.
> only some characters get new moves, including May and fricking Ram
Every single character of the original roster is going to get new moves, 6 of them coming this month and the others through season 3.
>Yes that says Burst, not tension.
Yes, burst, we can read. A good idea to use burst.
Isn't dash RC'ing practically drive rush already? This is gonna get goofy.
It's kind of funny seeing Johnny with a more normal face after the really pointy one in Xrd. I know that applies for most of the cast but Johnny's case was especially exaggerated. Also seeing his eyes behind his glasses instead of the shades being tinted jet black.
they'll turn him gay if he gets added
garbage game
He's right there moron, what do you mean "if"?
I quit this shitheap last year.
enjoy your trash, I'll be in +r having fun.
>+r is dead as frick
If only you homosexuals actually played the game instead of just using it to sound cool.
>recruits a crew of e-girl pirates specifically because he likes the way they look
>doesn't correct them
he's gay alright
They tried to change his design once.
Just once.
i dont remember this
what the frick am i looking at
design documents, the bright neon pink, yellow and blue show what should be a reflective or metallic material. They're not actually neon
I actually don't hate the neon it's the beard that's trash
No they were actually meant to be that neon. Vastedge loved neon and had fricking moronic designs all around
Gotta have the shiny jingly colours to entice and entrance anyone who so much as glances at the screen of a pachinko game machine.
no it isn't, watch this, the characters aren't neon, it's just design documents
Well frick me that's years of me being wrong kek.
I was convinced I saw the neon in actual footage too, guess I'm just moronic.
El trun…
>Johnny Joestar
Looks like a Pokemon Gym Leader
>complains about lgbt shit in strive
>"heh, I'm going back to +R"
I know he's a secondary but no one tell him who plays anime fighters.
Why aren't japs drawing nipples onto men anymore? Was there some new censorship law I missed?
im seeing this everywhere with chink games
>Why aren't japs drawing nipples onto men anymore? Was there some new censorship law I missed?
It's to stop the inevitable questions of "Why can't I take Body Type B's shirt off?" If you get used to having chests with no nipples, it means they can someday make shirtless "female" characters with nothing that'll affect the age rating of the game. And zoomers love the "nipless" fetish, so it's a convenient bonus.
Anon it's literally because the nips find nipples very erotic even on men. The most they do when not drawing it for porn is put circles in there like in Dragon Ball characters.
>No coins
Nu-Guilty Gear keeps delivering
He has cards now apparently.
he had them already in xx (was his instakill)
Persona 3 FES is better than this troony loving game
Frick those buttholes. They know everyone wanted Johnny since day one, so they deliberately strung people along through two season passes (not to mention this is on top of intentionally splitting That Man and Happy Chaos between those two passes) and are using him to sell the third after the game has absolutely floundered in players and technical issues over the past few months. Absolutely soulless delivery of characters.
and everyone who wasn't delusional knew that was how it was going to go since the first announcement of character season passes
because that's the only fricking reason to do character season passes
>the game has absolutely floundered in players
It gained new audience. Strive is not super popular but it's still in top-3 japanese fighting games.
Can't wait for arc systems to have Johnny not be a womanizer and retcon him into being secretly gay all along
>asset flip
FNV mindbroke me so hard that I read the title as Johnny Guitar.
good
What up with the way Japs use the word "drive' anyways
Hopefully he finally fricks May.
RIP Johnny, tainted by Strive
TYURARA YOU HAVE TO WIN
LETS' GOOOOOOOOOO
"Hey guys uhmmmm we're starting to wrap the game up and move on to better things but we'd really appreciate it if we could bundle it up nice and neatly so can you actually balance the game now?"
>Oh sure boss, we'll just add all the moves we removed back 2nd Beta and give everyone a counter and parry so that characters like Goldlewis are an absolute joke.
"Is Sin getting buffed at all?"
>Who's Sin?
It's honestly pathetic it took them this long to reinstate shit that was literally already in the fricking game almost 4 years ago. The reworked force break is honestly just a slap in the face because they could have added that at any point in the game's life span so that Chaos was shit stomping every character that didn't have a long poke.
Also how much you people wanna bet that May is going to skyrocket to top tier AGAIN because no one playtested the new moves thoroughly.
Who would win, Sol Bab Los or Yugdaadguy
>give everyone a counter and parry so that characters like Goldlewis are an absolute joke.
goddammit i was happy about getting the dash and now you ruined it
>May is going to skyrocket to top tier AGAIN because no one playtested the new moves thoroughly.
Don't worry anon, they sometimes spend as much as three months playtesting! and the fact that not all characters are getting moves at the start of the season means they have plenty of time to test things! I'm sure this will go great!
What do you mean again, May has been top tier ever since they buffed her dolphins. Slash has been demolishing tournaments left and right.
dont frick up may x johnny
You're right, it is perfect.
>love Baiken redesign but hate GG
>love Samsho
>she's into Samsho
Can't wait for rollback.
Fricking finally, good lord, but the game's so dead in the water at this point i doubt even johnny will make me come back to it
i haven't bought a single dlc and never will
same here creamapi all day
Where is the working version of it? The only stuff I could find didn't work at all.
i just use the auto version you can find it with a quick google search
The auto version never worked for me on anything
koalageddon v2 works for strive
Where are his nipples
they dont draw nipples for the same reason they don't draw noses
>inb4 jam arrives with even more pronounced nipples because she stole johnny's in the story
deepest lore
ABA when
Jam will not have her panty feature back. Anyone who still cares about Strive after what they did to Testament and Bridget is moronic.
here's your Jam.
Is it just fricking matt mercer doing mcree in GG now?
Pretty lame that they're only doing 6 new moves to start with, the fact that they're being so reserved with them implies to me that the non-new move balance changes probably won't be that significant either, which sucks because I really wanted Bedman to get a new special that didn't suck and other significant buffs.
At least I'll probably be able to do some moronic new dash attack combos with Potemkin.
Give Ky back his Greed Sever. That is all I ask.
God jonathan looks so fricking good.
It's just a coat and a hat ffs.
>Wow, Goldlewis! Thank you for convincing me to stop being a heckin gross and icky pedo and respectively ask out on a date a strong and prime women my age like I-no!
The amount of people who cope seeing this name is hilarious. Imagine being so mindbroken you have to pretend it means "you will never be a winner"
>censor the females
>make the men extra buff and uncensored
GG Strive (to be gay or trans)
>This is the third season in a row where the first DLC character is a blond male
C'mon, ArcSys. It's getting boring.
that's because ORE WA PERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRFECTO DA
holy shit Norio Wakamoto is still alive?
Of course he is. He just costs millions (¥) to hire.
How's May nowadays?
Still pretty strong but only played by mouthbreathers and Slash
>Season 3
Slayerbros... it's our time
Baker Robo Ky + Baker Venom WHEN
>venom using robo-ky's head as a ball
it will NEVER happen but I'm creaming myself just by imagining it
Not just that. Have the pool stick be replaced by a baguette and have Venom wear a tall chef hat
Why would you want Slayer to get tainted and butchered in Strive?
>No BDC
>No 2hit chokka
>No j2k extensions because airtime bad
>No links because 2hard4strivers
>One Dandy step
>No AC Undertow
>No bite because Nago stole it
>No corner rape because oops wallbreaks
>Probably some dumbass unique meter management
Leave him alone, everyone plays like him in the first place and Nago is the big damage character so he's redundant as hell and would need to be reworked into something else entirely, stick to +R
Just put in EX Slayer and call it a day. Its the best version of Slayer anyway
Ain't using no dirty rekkas with Slayer
He has a DP, thats good.
DPs are dishonest
Its less dishonest than making all your special move fully invincible by exploiting a bug
Bold of you to assume I know what half of that shit is.
All I do is fish for pile bunkers and enjoy his dandyism, so as long as that's in I'm good.
You don't know the true joys of Slayer until you learn how to erase 90% of healthbars out of random counters, pilebunkers are just the basics
It's not a bug, it's a feature
AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE SLAYER BROS SAVE ME PLEASE I KEEP SLIDING INTO FIRE
>I'm sure to win because my Gunflame is supeAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!?
>If I make sure to dash at the right time I should be able to avoid his-N-NANI???????????????!!!!! AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
>I'm sure to win because they'll never see my Riot Stamp comi...AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!????
https://streamable.com/ib8wfb
God I miss having a decent connection, been 5 months or so since I was able to play, I hate living in the bumfrick of nowhere.
That sucks man. Look into starlink, my buddy has it in the boonies and gets a decent connection.
Friend of mine has it over here and it's no different from Wi-Fi, arguably I get better ping with my phone tethering, I just have to suck it up and hope I get to move soon for better or worse.
Wtf where are his nipples???
FRICKING FINALLY GODDAMN MOTHERFRICKERS TOOK THEIR SWEET ASS TIME
I genuinely forgot Evo was this weekend. How was Strive top 8? Did a troony win?
Happy Chaos won again, this time a smasher decided to use Happy Chaos to win
I wonder who will use Happy Chaos next year for the win
>Hol Horse but shirtless
cringe troon game
>making johnny into a setplay character
what the frick are they even doing with these characters anymore
Can't mess with perfection
Will he ever frick May
I want to believe Strive will be more than frustratingly "just okay" but I have my doubts. I'll lab the new mechanics but that'll probably be it.
love me country
love me UMA
love me Behemoth Typhoon
simple as
goldlewis is the hottest guilty gear character
best part of strive hands dow
They better add Dizzy in season 3. Also Elphet.
see pic related
the season 3 is just johnny dizzy slayer elphelt
Not so fast
>implying
Too cool for strive.
Motherfricker, you need to quiet your expectations so you don't disappoint yourself before you inevitably pull me in so I can be disappointed.
Nah. Better add an original Strive character instead.
DID THEY FIX POTEMKIN YET?
NO?
THEN FRICK OFF
So when are they going to nerf Chaos?
I want to bury my face in Goldlewis' belly
Elphelt sucks and should never return
>people want to come back just for Johnny
enjoy getting shot
enjoy getting called a bigot
I wish this game have an optional instrumental variant musics. So it won't be so distracting to concentrate when battling online.
I agree, I've just been muting it and playing the Korean Reload OST instead. Lots of songs that would be more listenable for hours on end without the lyrics, it's sad.
what's the difference between strive and xrd (in general)?
Xrd is just an alternate path that XX could've taken after #Reload, design-wise. Strive is actually a new system designed to lessen the mental stack and give players huge damage while making endless corner pressure impossible because of wall break. It has some solid ideas like the RC rework (way better than Xrd RCs) but the characters lack tools without RC and the damage is ridiculous in a way that even older GGs would blush at at times.
the rc system and dash rc in particular are the only parts of strive i like
hope the next guilty gear is more xrd-like but keeps strives rc
i wish strive had diagonal drift RCs
>implying the next GG won't be lobotomized even further after the "success" of Strive
atleast i wont be tempted to waste money in that case
It depends on success of future games. SF6 already proved that you need to put some gay ass control scheme and single modes for casuals to be happy. ArcSys are trend chasers and will change their design philosophy when fighting games will start becoming actually more complex rather than being dumbed down like they were since SFV era. All nip devs are trend chasers just look how many games have fricking offensive dash as system mechanic now. T8,granpoo has it for over a year now,sf6 with rush and now strive adds something like that. All it will take is success of single IP that went other way around with "accessibility" and even if not then there will be someone who will take advantage of a hole in market that will be missing old like legacy fighting game and will sooner or later release really complex fighter and I wont be suprised if its going to be game from Mori.
"Our intent first and foremost in making this game is to create something entirely new, rather than a continuation of previous games. This includes our direction with the music and designs as well. The reason for changing the character designs is that it makes it clear at a single glance that this is a new series within the Guilty Gear franchise. We aren't using previous titles as a base when thinking about changing the characters' moves. We are redefining each character from the ground up for this new game."
~ Daisuke Ishiwatari on Developer Blog 2
https://www.arcsystemworks.jp/guiltygear/db/en/volume2.php
>This includes our direction with the music
WE HAVE TO GO BACK
never, never!
okay, except for Ram's theme WE HAVE TO GO BACK
I don't think it will be possible because strive is too successful. At least Xrd and +R have rollback now
I just don't get why it had to be this fricking game to elevate GG outta obscurity, man.
Because it's fun
Frick it, who do you main? Not even going to insult you, just curious if you're having fun what do you play. I-no main across the board. I am TIRED of Strive.
Bridget is very fun to play.
Can't fault you there, I guess. Got a character that can do everything.
gio is fun as frick
Did you see that they hid something new that Gio can do in the Johnny trailer?
no, what did i miss?
oh shit i saw it. It's not a dash cancel. It is something new
Wrong game in the right place at the perfect time. You could've released anything in Strive's place and it would've taken off.
Exactly, complexity of mechanics doesn't matter even to casuals, they just want to mash and look at cool stuff. SF6 already proved it by easily outperforming V despite being more multilayered. And now look at DNF duel, nobody gives a shit about it, not even the chinese.
DNF duel was largely abandoned because Nexon cant promote their own game properly, on top of a gameplay design that is heavily polarizing
People actually played it.
I played Xrd. I got punished by people refusing to play Xrd.
I played Xrd as well, but I would only ever see the same handful of people in online lobbies. That was all I needed to have fun with the game, but I would lying if I said it ever had a booming playerbase, but despite that it had plenty of people praising it online, it had a good amount of people watching streams of it, talking about the characters, the music, the art, whatever, but it all translated to few people actually playing. Say what you will about Strive, but a lot more of the people who say they like it actually play it compared to how many people who considered themselves Xrd fans played Xrd.
>It looks great
>It actually got advertised, both intentionally and unintentionally like with the OST and Jack-O' memes hitting at just the right time
>Good word of mouth
>It's much easier to pick up than previous GG games
>Once you do pick it up it has that sweet spot of having enough mechanically for most to feel like they are actually achieving something without being too intimidating or insulting
>DBFZ made the general public finally take an interest in Arcsys
>Came out when SFV was in the shitter and people were just waiting for T8, sequels for both franchises years away so people were up for trying something else
>It's a good time
The only people who are upset about Strive are a subsection of XX and Xrd players that miss how much more depth those games had, and of course Ganker because of the Bridget stuff and it being a popular game; vastly smaller numbers to the new audience they have. I do understand how it does suck that GG has made such a shift, blatantly appealing to a new audience, but the results speak for themselves and Arcsys would be absolutely moronic to ever look back. Even if the next GG game does half the numbers of what Strive did that would still be 10x the numbers that GG as a franchise pulled beforehand.
t. GGgay that started with #R in the mid-2000's
>The only people who are upset about Strive are a subsection of XX and Xrd players that miss how much more depth those games had, and of course Ganker because of the Bridget stuff and it being a popular game
When Bridget came out, he brought identity politics and cult defenders with him, but before that Strive was routinely mocked and shit on, when it even got attention that is, most people don't care about discussing it as it is boring.
People didn't use "waiting room game" ironically, and if you ever peak behind the curtain of people pretending the game is perfect you'll still see people complaining about the main fundamental issues it has.
Obviously the game has a lot of issues and even actual players have valid criticisms involving the gameplay and the online but is drowned out by irrelevant twitter drama, cherrypicking and gameswarring which makes it difficult to discuss the title
>irrelevant twitter drama, cherrypicking and gameswarring
That's a design choice though, you literally can't critique Strive or its players now without being accused of doing so for political reasons.
>you literally can't critique Strive or its players now without being accused of doing so for political reasons
Please get off of Ganker and twitter sometime anon.
Thank you for proving my point.
I'm telling you to talk to actual human beings and not /misc/ obsessed dumbasses from either site that try to turn an opinion about a video game into a political statement.
Most people will hear you out on how you feel about the game then promptly stop giving a shit about how you feel the moment it exits their mind.
>design choice
Theres a clear line between saying the game has a damage problem, balance issues and homogeneity of combo routes, and saying you hate it because of non gameplay related garbage from twitter.
The point is that if you say the first, you get accused of the second.
Those that accuse you of the second are obviously not eorth your time as an actual player, so their criticisms are easily ignored. If you engage them thats a (You) problem.
>most people
lmao, only morons from here and kappachino hates on the game. The game is a resounding success. I know it is painful to accept your opinion doesn't matter but sooner or later you will have to come to terms with it
Yes, most people. Screech all you want about it, it won't change the flaws the game has and the reception to those flaws outside of your personal bubble.
literally living in bizzarro world. You are the one living in a bubble of autistic xturder crybabies. Go outside for once. Numbers don't lie
>m-muh numbers
That explains so much.
I mean you don't have to tell me all that, man. I've been in GG just as long and I don't necessarily hate Strive but its fascinatingly frustrating that it was THIS game. I feel like if we had gotten Rev 3 with Ariel into Strive I would be in a happier mindset about it but then ArkSys would probably be fricking dead or something.
At least they finally started giving I-no shit.
Just let this game die already.
+R is clearly the last game this franchise should've released.
NO SLAYER
NO BUY
Too bad they couldn't do the same for I-No
Theres no way johhny isnt top 1 on release.
he'll be so good he gets to be tier 0
>>A design so perfect they've kept it nearly the same for over 20 years
Nah, it's just that dudes don't b***h about pixel dudes with pecs bigger than theirs, that's all there is to it.
Explain why Baiken was brought back even bigger then.
Can't wait for her stage-filling milkers in G4ilty Ge4r
but we still haven't gotten Guil3 G3ar yet
StrIVe is G4ilty Ge4r
but it's the 6th canon game. possibly 7th since i think Vastedge counts
That didn't stop Xrd from being the "3rd" Guilty Gear.
it was the 3rd X
Guilty Gear XXX
Either way, Arcsys considers it the "4th" game (Notice how the IV are the only letters that aren't faded) much like how Kingdom Hearts 3 is the 10th canonical game in its series.
Okay, fair point. Was thinking about I-NO but you're right.
I think her new design is sexier tbh, and the wider hat is a straight upgrade.
To be fair I think her design in Xrd was a perfect translation.
I can't wait to see strive get dominated by that one jap johnny player for years like he did with rev lmao
Does omito even play strive
Last I checked he streamed it occasionally, but I dont think he was ever at major events.
He tried, maimed Leo and pot for a bit then gave up
damn, frick Leo but I hope Pot got better
I don't think he has since SF6 came out, but he did fairly casually for quite a while
he played Leo and has a dogboy vtuber avatar
Bunny
oh
lewd
https://twitter.com/omtg/status/1688333455137112065
He does.
nice, the very top level of jap players can actually make strive entertaining to watch at least sometimes, here's hoping he makes a good showing of it
there's zero chance we're getting anything resembling xrd johnny
omito had a solid narmaya but without johnny he just isn't the best in the world
>character on paper is extremely busted
>is also extremely autistic when it comes to execution, setups and pickups
>to the point that basically only one player in the world can pilot him at 100%
thats never going to happen again, an Xrd johnny tier character would get nerfed into the ground day 0 in patch era.
Johnny got buffed in rev2.1
HC got buffed in 1.26
Arcsys has their own balance philosophy and doesn't give a shit what people want
didnt he also get hit in other ways? 2.1 was slightly before my time but i was under the impression it was a compensation buff more than anything
nta but thats exactly what arcsys fricking does. they never like just nerf character but give them compensation buffs that in the end sometimes make those characters even more moronic. this is fricking stupid in my opinion but whatever after playing their games since reload i adjusted to this.
His bacchus sigh bug was essnetially patched out, other than that all the changes were slight buffs and sidegrades
not really
it made 1hit zwei slightly harder, but didn't actually remove any routes just made the spacing more precise
other than that the MF dash buff gave him a couple of swaggy new midscreen routes off 2H iirc, but it wasn't a big change
they made MF unblockables more plus on the stagger the more levels he has but I can't remember if they made level 1 worse than it was before that or not, but you'll always be doing a setup that gives you levels anyway so it was a small buff on average at least, might have been pure buff
definitely overall a small but not completely insignificant buff.
That said, it was still a good change. He could use a nerf, but only a small one, as far as uncontested top tiers go Johnny is one of the most healthy examples I can think of from any game, and the changes he did get were focused on making him cooler and more interesting and take more skill, they weren't just making him stronger for no reason. He did get very slightly stronger, but also got a decent bit more interesting which is a worthwhile trade even for the best character in the game.
Still would be nice to get a rev3 that knocks him down a peg.
>Arcsys has their own balance philosophy and doesn't give a shit what people want
The most accurate post in this thread.
Is it just me who thinks strives model isn't replicating 2d enough?
strive should replicate a good game first
They've sayed that they're not even trying to replicate the anime style of an anime but that of movies
Said*
That was the saddest GG finals I've seen.
what are all the japanese gods thinking
they'll play it at EVO Japan but not regular EVO to avoid the american weirdos
This just makes me want to lick his pits
Also where are his nipples?
>All women are covered head to toe
>Meanwhile, men look like this
ArcSys is learning character design from NRS, I see.
https://twitter.com/ThiccRadChad/status/1688334016947400704?s=20
>3/5 star difficulty
>Long-Range type only shared by Axl
So he's just a counterpoke character now then. Didn't expect something like Mist Finer unblockables to be in Strive in the first place honestly, and the cards definitely look more neutral-focused than coins did.
funny, they look more pressure focused to me
coins are broken in neutral, they're such a strong projectile that they have to be limited or he could just spam them constantly without any real counter
cards seem much more setup focued, the point of them is getting the card out so you can hit it with mist finer for combos and pressure.
I'm actually a little interested in how he works, the idea is really cool, even if I'm probably going to be disappointed
Why are you advertising trannnoid twittertards
One that calls Johnny hard to play too, holy fricking shit he was THE gorilla after Leo in the last entry
....Bro? Johnny was high execution. What are you talking about?
>Execution is difficulty
Holy shit have you ever played a match in a fighting game before? I have never fricking heard anyone argue against Johnny being a fricking gorilla, even Johnnygays
Its just the comparison to Leo is fricking weird since Leo is a fricking braindead execution character but I guess I misinterpreted.
>johnny is gorilla
throwing coins isn't throwing bananas or flinging shit at people
>U-uuum I have to go to training mode to try a combo for 10 minute once it means my main is difficult!
Johnny's combos in themselves aren't what make him difficult. What is difficult is hit confirming, then performing the right route based on character/weight/screen position.
that's what every character has to do
he needs it
Johnny is strong and his difficulty is (slightly) overrated but calling him a gorilla is moronic
gorilla means you mash shit randomly and get rewarded for it. Johnny has to use his normals in very specific ways, has a limited resource you're fricked if you run out of halfway through the match, has three different sets of framedata and frametraps to know about, endless situational combos and confirms based on what level he is, how many coins he has and wants to spend, the opponent's character, distance to the corner etc, and if you frick up and let them tech out after you spend your MF levels and don't get to otg Coins you're way worse off after a drop relatively than most of the cast. If you try to play Johnny like unga bunga Leo or Sol or Slayer or May or Jam you're going to lose hard.
95% of the playerbase isn't on a level where Johnny is even the best character in the game. There's at least 10 other characters that random mid level players on netplay can be bigger problems with, complaining about Johnny usually just means that you got your opinions from watching streams instead of playing the game.
I keep forgetting that Ganker is actually absolutely fricking moronic when it comes to talking about fighting games.
Ganker is no different than zoomers with all this confident lying man.
Like, what is even gorilla anymore when
>Situational combos
>Heavily matchup and meter reliant neutral
>Loses by default not using two specific options at any given moment than just mashes with good normals and gatlings
counts.
Next you'll say Under Night characters outside Wagner are gorilla.
Mika can be pretty gorilla.
Gord was pretty monke in the version of Uni I played too, but apparently he got nerfed pretty hard at some point so he might not get away with it any more
anyone else think the character themes are going downhill somewhat? if you're inclined to disagree, understand that i'm only referring to the general trend; don't just say "but i main X new character and their theme is great!" i just feel like if the base roster's songs were all close in quality with those of the season 2 dlc, people would be a lot more negative on the soundtrack. even if you still like the songs, do you agree there's been a dip in quality?
the only valid criticism for me is that they can be less intense but that's it. I think daisuke evolved personally. That being said WHERE ARE MY MOTHERFRICKING CHARACTER VS CHARACTER SONGS
that's understandable. i also want special matchup songs but we probably aren't getting them lol
you're not wrong, but i'm talking about a decline throughout the release of new songs for strive, not comparing strive ost to the older games
oh misinterpreted it too, character songs huh. Well I'd rate em like so
Goldlewis- personally don't like it 0/10
Jack O- I like it, has a nice christmas feel good feeling kind of feel 8.5/10
HC-has good moments but they're not tied together as much as I feel they could be 7/10
Baiken-very nice 9/10
Transitionment-perfect 10/10
Bridget-too laid back and takes too long to for it to get goin for me 0/10
Sin-feels like a song in an 80's car repair shop, not bad but idk its missing something critical 5/10
Bedman-didn't like it at first but it grew on me 8/10
That Man-feels too meandering 3/10
I mean I can excuse it since Daisuke's made a lot of songs and I just stick to the ones I like. Besides I don't play most of these characters so I aint stuck to the theme.
>Besides I don't play most of these characters so I aint stuck to the theme
yeah i play a base roster character and although i usually just set my song to something else, i do really like my character's theme. it kept me enthusiastic about the game when i was a floor 6 noob. i feel bad for dlc users because they might not get that experience
>That being said WHERE ARE MY MOTHERFRICKING CHARACTER VS CHARACTER SONGS
This.
I've set "Still in the Dark" for online matches in the first day of release and never changed it.
going fully voiced was a mistake
even if I prefer XX, Xrd did it right with only a few songs doing vocals
Bedman?'s theme is pretty good for about 38 seconds
Goldlewis, Bedman, and Baiken's songs are the only DLC themes that I can enjoy. The rest range from snoozefests (Jackoff, Sin, Chaos) to filtering me before they were finished playing (Testament, Bridget). Base roster's only weak songs were Axl and May's themes. Daisuke seems to have been phoning it in for a while now.
the only few i like are smell the game, bazinga rock parade & may's die nasty
Eh, I think there's good shit in the soundtrack, like I-no, Zato, Axl, Faust and Bedman but then you got the weird fricking shit like whatever the frick Ram's is.
100%. I listened every single one of the non dlc songs repeatedly. But Sin Jacko, Testament, Bedman and Asuka have songs I don't really like and I have mixed feelings about Baikens. Only Bridget, GoldDick and Happy were as good as the original set.
Yeah, of the 4 season 2 character themes the only ones I liked were Bridget and Bedman’s, and Bridget’s isn’t great music for a fighting game meanwhile I like pretty much all of the base game and season 1 songs (with a mod installed to skip the first minute of Baiken’s theme)
Rock Parade is still the best one
Not really, they still have that same problem of being too long for how short the matches are, but the tracks on their own are good.
I've never really liked the Strive approach to the soundtrack but out of the DLC cast, Chaos' theme is the only one I cared to save. Couldn't even remember the names of the rest if you asked me.
I love nearly all of them except for Bridget
I feel like they gotta add somethin moronic next season to get me interested with all the crap characters in pass 2, someone like ragna
peaked at Faust, everything else is trash
Yeah, I felt that the songs from Season 2 we're pretty mediocre, filled with some nice melodies, rifts and ideas but overall, it felt as if they lacked a good execution.
I really wanted to like Jack-O's theme but the main female vocalist for a lot of the girls' themes is fricking TERRIBLE. Every time I hear her voice it sounds like I'm listening to a song advertising Barbie toys or some shit. It's a baffling choice for such a grungy series.
>see the trailer
>"maybe I should reinst-"
>remember how this game is a giant 50/50 unreactable setups
WOW. Dodge a bullet here. Frick you OP.
>blocklette
lol
>setup is 2 frames
>6 delay frames engine
>+ online delay
>JUST REACT LMAO
have a nice day
name 3
Name a game that isn't
Who were the top 6 players and their characters bros
Chaos
I-No
Nago
Nago
Sol
Ky
>Unironic ABA shills (ie secondaries or mentally ill blazblue transexuals)
>People implying Johnny was ever a complex character and now he's dumber because his fricking braindead coins are gone and we have a new mechanic we don't know enough about instead
Why are GG threads filled with people don't play whining about GG every single fricking time
Just play homies
Like
Just have fun
>Going on about transexuals when they literally retconned Bridget into one
Lmfao
The game already fricking feels like Moroha mode is applied to the cast with how fricking fast they bleed
Now imagine we get ABA back with Moroha.
I've never played a single fighting game in my life and never will, but I will always show up for GG's animations and music
am I moronic?
play guilty gear judgment or guilty gear isuka or +R or watch the xrd sign&rev & strive movie
There's fricking cool shit in Guilty Gear. You are not moronic for liking fighting games for their characters, aesthetics, world, and music.
he was inspired by johnny bravo right? there's no way he wasn't
Johnny Cash
Guilty Gear's so fricking gay
Johnny's design isnt sexualized at all. He's a male power fantasy. Women dont find muscles or shirtless men attractive. If men were actually sexualized in fighting games, they'd look like this.
moron take
Damn, he looks cool.
Still not gonna come back after what they've done to the game.
I fricking hate how Strive Sin is the fighting game character that's clicked the most with me ever but he's both bad and is in Strive
Check the Johnny trailer, that f.S and BD look way faster. Theres really no way but up for Sin really
>GG designs look great
>don't give a shit about fighting games
pain
What's stopping you?
Buffs when? I wanna like Bedman but I feel like I've got one hand tied behind my back from round start.
If not later this month, it'll be a long time.
>A game developer so lazy they've recycled the same design for 20 years
Meh.
Never interested in playing and less in fighting him.
I expect better for the next character, bring me back Venom
HIT THE PARTY RUSH BUTTON, LUKEGODS DABBING ON THE INDUSTRY
Yayyy another mid character to start off another mid season for the 3rd time in a row. Strive try not to bore everyone to fricking death challenge: IMPOSSIBLE!!!!. Frick Strive
>mid
Go back to fortnite, zoomzoom.
>Just make a Cowboy with a Samurai and he is also chested lmao
>someone at arcsys thought ram needed XX mawaru in her moveset
They're gonna turn him into gay-appeal aren't they.
>suddenly
I'm sorry what
It doesn't say suddenly in that post.
> new moves for every character
> johnny with unchanged design
> bad universal defense mechanic
guilty gear is so back
To be fair we dont know extent of general changes to characters too. They could give some stuff to character back like Sols 6P wallbounce or give certain characters more jump cancellable moves and more on top of those new system mechanics. That rush move seems like it also can be used as combo extender for example not just gap closer.
Happy Chaos already stole his schtick. No need to ruin Johnny for troony points.
HC stole Elphelt's schtick and frontloaded everything on rifle, not Johnny
Yeah but who else shaves their treasure trail so they can expose their vegana bones?
>Started using Johnny in XX because he had a sweet hat
>Picked up I-No in Strive because no Johnny and I was too dumb to use her in XX and Xrd, also went for next best hat
>Used her until Testament came out, didn't care about the character in XX but clicked with me in Strive; surely because of the new hat
>Now best hat is back
I can't wait to be terrible with him again.
>tfw no testament they/themfriend
he's literally just like me fr fr
Same here anon
Same here
We both really are perfect womanizer men who travel the world in a pirate ship kidnaping little girls and renaming them after months of the year, being a strong father figure to them to the point they all fall in love with us, but we never touch them ever because we are secretly into older women and are fricking the cook behind their back
Never played the game but is that the one with the doctor wearing a paper bag as a mask?
Yes, but he looks like a starving Ethiopian now.
Shame, but i can deal.
For some reason i love characters who wears paper bags on their heads
If anyone has a meme idea they want with johnny I'll make it. animations included
Johnny apologizing for his machismo and misogyny by kneeling and sucking off Bridget's meaty girlwiener, since she's now a real woman and all that.
Do something with 77 y.o. Johnny
damn is he actually 77 now? jeeeesus
>cover up all the girls
>but half-naked hypersexualized guys are ok
>hypersexualized
The guy has no nipples
Was the serial nipple slasher ever caught?
no one cares about male nipples
homosexuals do anon
I care a lot, male nipples are just as hot and tasty as female nipples.
Ok so if it's all about the nipples then where are the half-naked barbie girls?
I want to molest his body so much.
>anji finally got an autoguard followup back
I'll take it, now give me orb and I'll be pretty happy.
inb4 some smartass tries to correct me, I know kou was an autoguard followup turned into a regular special
I just hope its not just 1 special move per character. 2 is fine, but I want more options
I feel that. I've adjusted over time, but games largely running the same was what got me tired on strive, along with the troony bullshit being all 99% of the threads/tweets talk about draining my desire to even be near the game.
I'm lucky that with how they made anji, having shit like on and kai would be relatively redundant, even if I love On. Without the autoguard followup, he was just feeling anemic though. Having orb as an air combo ender would have me relatively set until 2ni drops.
my husband Anji
I've tried, I just can't jive with anyone else in the game. He's the only fun one, problems and all.
Order sol NAO
>HOS
>In Strive
I'm extremely sorry but charges and deadly raves are too problematic for modern fighting game audiences
Strive already has a character who charges. Not that Order Sol would play like Order Sol if he were to return, that's just par for the course with Strive. I like the game well enough, but I am way past the point of caring about returning characters and it still surprises me to see people clamor for them, even simple ones like Sin aren't going to play the same. It's not even that they're just simplified, they've just taken almost every returning character in a new direction, like if they were to bring back Order Sol, the concept of the character is not too complex for Strive at all, but he just wouldn't resemble how he used to be beyond something broad like him being a rushdown character with strong pressure all the same because they don't do that with returning characters.
Asuka literally has charge like mechanic so its not impossible. If HOS would get added into the game then he would get added as last character off season pass like A21 did for DBFZ at best.
>barahomosexual and troonyshit GOOD
>female titty skin BAD
This company is a fricking joke.
Aren't they all anymore?
>mist finer is committed special rather than stance.
strive johnny lets go
You can see him hold it and backdash during ti in the trailer so I don't think it will be.
soive sucks balls but he literally goes into stance in trailer you blind homosexual
>jam is coming back to abduct Bridget and make him live in her basement while making him work for pennies and molesting him on the regular again
Umm, based?
>No handcuff.
He doesn't wear it when he's working it would just get in the way
Yeah, but I still find it a bit amusing.
actually it's because hes a bounty hunter that sometimes arrests huge guys
I imagine it meant he was truly free when he could finally life in his own terms, so no more handcuff. But that ending has been axed and the new game just has him go back to having to pretend to be a woman. So who knows
Yeah, I never liked the idea of him regressing into accepting the feminine identity his home forced upon him tbh. His arc in Strive felt to me more like him learning to both no longer give a shit about proving himself as masculine nor trying to deny his past and the influence it had on him; he's already managed to prove his own merit as a person, his village is proud of his accomplishments and has moved on from the dogmatic traditions they once had and as such he can now just decide on what he feels works best with who he is as a person and no longer needs to prove those aspects wrong/right.
yeah but the game needs to pander to americans so
Evo top6 was one of the most boring tournaments I ever saw. Holy shit, I remember Xrd tournaments they were so fricking hype and cool. And now we have years of same Nago and Chaos bullshit. And Leffen as a champion of troony game. How did it happen, bros?
>How did it happen, bros?
Everyone actually believed the "your game getting popular is a good thing" line.
It IS a good thing, the catch is you have to make the game good first.
Every fricking time. Only brainlets think that opening the gates is a good idea.
Street fighter had the only good top 6 this year, and this is coming from someone who dislikes sf. Tekken 8 and gbvsr need to release already and strive needs to die.
>gbvsr
>even more braindead and boring game than soive that is full of homosexual pandering and literal troon characters too
I will never understand Black folk here shilling this game.
>strive needs to die
never ever. It's a mainstay franchise now like sf and tekken. It has become too popular. Deal with it
I think melty was pretty good besides the GF. marvel pools were sick though
Literally every single top 6 except for sf6 was good. It was mirror city everywhere of the most oring characters, and Strive's was a mirror last year when it was won by a broken character that they couodve balanced given they had so much time but didnt, but instead of a troon, its won by Leffen.
>was
Wasnt*
>I remember Xrd tournaments they were so fricking hype and cool
the later ones where omito just obliterated most of the bracket wasn't that great
Yeah, I guess. Johnny and Elphelt did a lot of damage to the game. Nage vs Omito finals were cool tho.
I would def add Raven to that. This character at one point was fricking braindead as frick and moronic. He still is and also Faust frick pachi and his Black person character.
Oh yes, Raven was silly.
To be fair Elvenshadow deserved getting rolled on for being a F*ustgay
pls don't bully faust players
>got IK'd in tournament by the 2 greatest tierprostitutes in the history of japan
love me some kazunoko tho
Dont forget Sin from Sign to Revelator pre-Evo2016 patch. Theres a reason he was a good pick for tournaments then mysteriously dropped when he got nerfed
Yeah, I remember Machabo seeing the new recovery on Beak Driver and instantly switching to Ky.
ah yes pot matchup....only fab could even play this matchup and still was sometimes losing to random sin players who picked up sign lmao.
I remember watching whatever EVO it was where LostSoul got 3rd and everyone was so excited during the semifinals with him vs. Machaboo, and then grand finals came and Omito just absolutely steamrolled Machaboo and completely deflated the atmosphere. I hope Omito ends up actually doing well with Strive Johnny.
omito actually said he likes strive(he played leo and then testament a bit) but said he will play the game properly only when johnny will release so i can see him doing really well not just because of johnny but because he will take game seriously now.
I know, I just mean I don't know if he'll actually be able to compete at the top level again even if he wants to, I just hope he's up to it.
https://twitter.com/omtg/status/1688333455137112065
I remember that, it was like watching a Evo top 8 fight a round 1 pool player
Omiti was so fricking above everyone else it was almost comical
People were even joking that he speedrunned the tournament since nothing and no one could touch him
It wasn't even the only major that happened too, fricking Omito and his Johnny
What's crazy is Omito isn't even the strongest Johnny. He's the CURRENT one but his predecessor was even more insane. Don't frick with the Johnny players, I guess.
the EVO jp 2019 was kino because my homie summit won and omito wasnt in top 8
Xrd Chipp is probably the most underrated piece of shit in the series
Pure bullshit distilled into even more bullshit
But he has low health so it's okay :v)
omitowinslol was pretty much guaranteed for the latter portion of the game's life but the matches were still usually fantastic and it was actually rare to see even two of the same character in top 8
anyway Sumitt vs Chachacha was my favourite of the late era GFs probably
I'm not gay but I would lick those pecs.
Maycucks are gonna freak
Johnny is 1000% straight
I swear to FRICKING GOD if they commit to some kind of homosexualry
>It's johnny's turn to get dumbed down by soive
Sad. At least Venom is safe
But he has the same move kit, they just replaced his coins with cards.
and replaced his stance cancels with nothing
???
You literally see him in his stance doing bullshit repeatedly in his short stupid gameplay trailer holy shit strive whiners legit don't even play
the only time he drops stance without using the attack is when he does a throw out of it and id bet you money thats a command grab like they gave leo in his stance
they never once showed normal > stance > cancel stance > normal and it’s very obvious why
>holy shit strive whiners legit don't even play
nta but there's nothing to play because he's not out yet Black person
>20+ characters late we still have strive cucks saying "They'll keep his moves the same this time, really!"
You people are fricking moronic.
go watch his gameplay trailer
His coins are not the same as the cards, they're functionally similar in that they're both things he throws out to make Mist Finer stronger, but the cards are something he hits while they're out and it creates an additional effect whereas the coins just brought Mist Finer up a level. It doesn't look like Mist Finer will have levels this time.
The explosion buffs are like levels if you think about it. I just wonder if only the MFs can pop them though. Also did I see it right or did they really fricking bring his stupid molotov from XX back for no fricking reason
Yeah, he has Ensenga, but Zweihander looks really toned down from Xrd.
>Zweihander looks really toned down from Xrd.
Fricking good, I don't want another Black person who can get in from fullscreen to force a 50/50 that'll fricking kill me the moment he has any fricking meter
Johnny got away with so many moronic crap in Xrd
how is strive holding up these days? netcode still stable etc?
>netcode still stable
>he doesn't know
Relatively healthy playerbase because of crossplay,netcode is still good rollback not as good as in SF6 but its still very good and lobbies still suck balls but give smaller amount of errors now so its a very little bit better.
Johnny is just switching to credit cards from cash it's not a big deal
didn't read the thread. How many moronic xturders are still seething here? Lmao enjoy your 100 players WORLDWIDE game. Meanwhile strive is getting cooler and cooler and we are getting mechanics back
inb4 l..le troon
i'm 185 cm x 90kg of pure manliness and I can deck you irl without breaking a sweat lmao
kek good bait here's a pity (you) for trying bro
keep seething xturder. Strive got even more players this evo. Xturd actually lost players with rollback
>t. 170 cm x 110g
What I really want is Xrd rev 3
I miss real Baiken parries
>Coins were braindead combo fodder that gave you more damage and carry with levels and nothing else
>Now you have to use them as setup tools and think
>Uuuh b-but I just mashed the coins to get to level 3 it was much more complex because I say so ok
Lmaoooooooo imagine defending coins
In the new mechanics trailer when it does the split into a thousand gameplay clips you can see Gio do a dash undder after a launcher to side switch and continue a combo.
>Strive censored the base female cast on release
>Point this out
>Everyone calls me a schizo, a /misc/gay, etc
>Testament and Bridget get turned into trannies
>The same people who mocked me start complaining about what they did to those two
>Playerbase and fanbase get taken over by trannies
don't care. Keep seething
I feel bad for anyone still in the fanbase, it's all creepy groomers at this point.
>I feel bad for anyone still in the fanbase
homie, you can play the game without interacting with anyone
just play the fricking game and close your twitter/reddit tab
sorry but we are the fanbase and we like the game. You can frick off if you don't like it lol
You k ow, the reason they put rollback there is so you wouldnt have to interact outside the game proper to get a match right?
>he thinks that bunch of discord trannies and redditors is majority of fanbase
If I would be obsessed like gays here I would also think that troons are at least 30% of population globally but in reality they are like 0,5% of americas which is nowadays troony mecca lol.
>no Slayer
Do we really need another orangutan right after Johnny
>Johnny
>Elphelt
>Slayer
imagine three gorillas back to back
I like how AKI's hair is so goofy and unachievable, cosplayers don't bother to try to achieve it.
Keep hatin' on the king of the jungle, it only makes me stronger
lmao that b***h is so ugly in game. Why is sf6 such a garbage looking game?
He's so hot, haha jk
Unless???
Why does Ramlethal have BEAST.EXE, why does she have that? Who thought Ramlethal deserved to have that?
The same people who decided May needs fricking dolphin cancels when Faust and Anji get meme fodder moves
Do you think that the new defensive/ offensive mechanics using burst means that burst will recover faster?
I always thought the game needed quicker/ more bursts per match.
it depends what other system changes they did generally. people wanted more specials and they did that,they wanted more mechanics and they did that and another most requested thing was damage reduction so i could see them again nerfing damage a bit too. we dont know actual extent of this patch for now at all but im sure they did some general system changes to current systems too.
Someone said that season 3 was going to do less damage and that supers were the only way to break walls now.
That was a headcannon someone posted in an evo thread. I told him to knock it off
do you fricking believe everything you read?
Lmao, nope
Enjoy a nago blocking/jumping out of your drive impact and then raping your butthole raw since you can't burst anymore
i like wakamoto's voice but for me it never fitted johnny. Why does a 30 something suave looking mf sounds like a powerful and wise old man?
Johnny sounded very differently on previous gens, it was only from Xrd onwards that he starts to sound old, because Wakamoto himself is old and tired now.
>new moves for only 6 characters
>ram is one of them
Oh yeah, she's like the first character who fricking needs more moves. Just frick off, Katano.
Its for now but yeah still moronic and we dont know other changes to character kits because there are ones for sure.
I fricking hate ram so much. she has so much bullshit and keeps getting buffed. why the frick is she allowed to not have extended hurtboxes on her swords when literally everyone else does? This fricking character made me quit the game because my friend plays her. even happy chaos is more fun to fight against
They updated Ram's profile to Balanced, maybe she needs the new buff.
and he's already really good at Strive so I wonder if he'll be able to take it all the way next year.
I know people said it was boring but I enjoyed watching Omito completely stomp literally everyone into the dirt
They really should've nerfed chaos.
And Nago, and Leo, and Ram, and May, and Sol. But they didn't because frick you. KEEP ON ROCKINGU!
Do those characters need to be nerfed?
The only one out of that list that I think actually NEEDS nerfs is Leo tbh
Sol is ok now
Nago, Ram and May should be nerfed just because they're very very strong gorillas but I don't think they straight up warrant the nerfs
t. filthy HC player
Black person I mean amongst those listed characters, not in the whole game
HC NEEDS to be hit in the kneecaps and so does his players
i agree with him.I would nerf Mays moronic damage output for example and Nago further a bit but i dont have any problems with Ram or Sol at all now and only people doing well with ram are gays who played her in xrd like reddito or just good players like that israelite zando who grind her all day same applies to sol. HC needs to get nuked tho frick that Black person i agree
yes
Last for frick HC players