Most people here would just relentlessly scream troony when stuff like the rebis is brought up, but you see a lot of parallels when looking at a lot of things from media. It's a similar principle to yin and yang.
The whole purpose is supposed to be the culmination of beings therefore having both male and female qualities. Even though this is specifically supposed to be from some alchemical being that is created, I see this trope a lot and it always makes me think of stuff like this.
>culmination has failed
Depends the perspective I guess. I wouldn't say it's a failure as they were massively powerful entities. Whether or not what they do was right versus wrong is up to interpretation. >made the world miserable
Again, think this depends on perspective. Some were content with the state of the world under Marika.
Kinda, yea. Awesome fight ruined by being tied to elden beast. elden beast should have been a separate boss, maybe attached to a questline/alternate ending
D and his twin establish that it's possible to have one soul with two bodies, thus it implies you can have one body with two souls like Radagon/Marika.
There is also the part where Marika says "you have yet to become me" to Radagon, so perhaps he was originally a different person who got Alex Mercer'd by Marika. Or a "part" of her she broke off to go beat up giants and frick Rennala until she decided she wanted to reabsorb that part of herself, but by then he developed his own personality etc.
Reminder Elden Ring is a story about how females are evil and frick up everything while men try to clean up their mess
>Ranni (female)
Indirectly fricked the entire world by killing her half-brother just so she could achieve her own goals, which were delayed 5000 years because of a fricking cliff >Godwyn (male)
Always depicted as honorable, good, golden boy. >Marika (female)
Directly fricked the entire world by shattering the elden ring >Radagon (male)
Directly slightly unfricked the entire world by half-fixing the elden ring back >Malenia (female)
Started a petty war with Radahn and was such a sore loser she decided to cancer nuke an entire country just to make it a draw >Miquella (male)
Literally a saint, was about to save the world before the shattering. >Rennala (female)
Sparked the actions that would eventually culminate into her offspring fricking up the entire world because she was dumped. >Radahn (male)
Loved by his men and pets, was a big brute with a big heart. Held the entirety of the sky to protect his hometown and the world from ayy lmao invasion even in death and insanity. >Mogh (gay so counts as female)
Literally satan >Morgott (male)
Stayed behind defending his loved city and what he held precious until the very end, despite being hated and seen as a monster by the very thing he swore to protect >Sellen (female)
Sacrifices sorcerers and force people into corrupted, tortured forms to achieve her goals >Diallos (male)
An idiot trying to do the right thing, ends up sacrificing himself to protect something >Hyetta (female)
Brings the bad ending >Goldmask (male)
Brings the good ending >Rya (female)
takes you to the (evil) volcano manor, eventually at the end of her quest gives you an item that makes you take double damage >Patches (male)
try to keep you away from the volcano manor by kicking you off a cliff, sells you useful items
>Get born cursed >Thrown under the city to suffer >Everybody fricks everything up >Morgott emerges and becomes a great kind of Lyendell >Kingdom prosper >Assumes a secret identity as Margit >Leads the Night cavalry, the elite band that hunts down the most dangerous enemies of the Erdtree >Protect the Erdtree >Fight the tarnished three times >Is rewarded for his loyalty in the end by having his curse lifted by the Erdtree
Is there a bigger chad in the of Soulsgames? I dont think so.
I hope I dont have to explain that Morgott, The Omen King and Margit, the Fell Omen are the same Omen.
Margit straight up tells you. >The hands of the Fell Omen shall brook thee no quarter.
This is the description of the Night Cavalry armor. >The Night's Cavalry, who now wander the dim roads at night, were once led by the Fell Omen and were deliverers of death for great warriors, knights, and champions.
I just like the character, so its the lore I remember. Forgot most of the stuff by now.
He's king in the era of the Shattering, and sees Leyndell fall to ruin while seething at anyone who tries to save the day. So he wasn't a very good king
He wasnt just a king in the era of the shattering. He made himself a king, anonymously, and people prospered and loved him without even knowing what he looked like. You have to remember that an omen could never be a king.
The fall of Leyndell was inevitable. The land is fricked, everybody is going hollow. The shattering fricked everything. Leyndell is the only place that prospered some time after shattering. Everything else went to shit fast as nobody took care of it. Morgott is the only demigod that actually did anything positive and nobody expected it of him. On the contrary, being cursed and spurned his whole life he has the best reason to frick shit up not that he is free, but he does the opposite. Unlike his homosexual brother.
Now he just protect the Erdtree and his mother. Chad if I ever seen one.
He's king in the era of the Shattering, and sees Leyndell fall to ruin while seething at anyone who tries to save the day. So he wasn't a very good king
The people of Leyndell loved him. They were extremely elitist about their Golden city too. The capital prospered under Morgott for as long as it could.
Sometimes I feel like Goldmask is From method to separate the morons from normal people. Dark souls ended in tragedy, with everyone dying, all because Gwyn messed with the natural order of the world and made it impossible for anyone else to fix his mistake.
Now Goldmask comes along and does the same thing, making it impossible to change whatever new rule the greater will wants to force upon the world, and yet all those morons love Goldmask because he T-posed once or twice. Not everything that shines like gold is actually made of gold, something the morons who love Goldmask never seen to realize.
We dont really know if any of the endings are good or bad. They all have a good points and unknown negatives. There is not one of the ending that I would call bad. They all make sense and are hopeful in their own way. Even the one where you curse everyone by eating out their buttholes.
this is the most surface level incel you couldve made the statement- if you were even half as smart as you think you are you wouldve chimped out and started talking about aspects of the feminine and masculine and their traditional roles in language, esoteric religion and alchemy etc.
but youre just a moron so you said "WOMAN BAD". this isnt a commentary on "WOMAN BAD" thinking, its that youre too boring to make it sound interesting
(female) >Brings the bad ending
So you just gonna ignore Shabriri? >>Rya (female) >takes you to the (evil) volcano manor, eventually at the end of her quest gives you an item that makes you take double damage
(male) >try to keep you away from the volcano manor by kicking you off a cliff, sells you useful items
Okay you are just taking a piss, good job making me reply.
more like godlike being do mitosis so he can be two people at once and procreate with himself to try to create a new generation of better godlike beings
it didn't go too well so he tryed with others beings after that, leading to all the demigods
Elden ring god resurrects people and can do so in new bodies. Its like a big server that contains everyones souls after they die and it can reupload them into new forms
This is probably GRRM's only contribution to the game, in GoT Jamie and cersei say they are one being in two bodies, Marika and Radagon are the opposite of that.
>iT'S iNTeRprEtIvE bRoOooO!!1! >tHe StORy iS InFERReD fRoM THe DeSCrIpTIonS!1!!11!
Elden Ring and Dark Souls 3 have GUTTER tier trash writing. It's full of plotholes that exist due to countless redesigns and cut-content and rushed development that plagues both games.
why are there dead blacknife assassins around Blaidd and Iji when Ranni is the one who used them to kill Godwyn in the first place and all involved are loyal to ranni. theyre not so much plotholes as just scenes that appear for literally no reason because it isnt the type of game to explain why things happen
Black knife assassins are not loyal to Ranni. Ranni just stole the destined dead that was used to enchant the daggers of black knife assassins that used them to kill Godwyn. We know that the assassins are associated with Marika and Eternal City. This will hopefully be more explored in the DLC, as we just dont know.
As to why they tried to kill Blaidd and Iji I dont know. It only happens when Ranni is near the end of her quest, so maybe Marika is just trying to stop Ranni from using the player to destroy the greater will.
>all involved are loyal to ranni
the leader of the assassins is imprisoned at Ranni's Moonlight Altar
the better question would be why did one of the two parties seemingly betrayed the other
Goddamn, reading your posts, I realized that I fricked up or didn't finish NPC quests, and there were some character I really liked, they either died or disappeared. I'll have to replay with a guide probably to save them or at least give them what they want.
>Ayylmao God cram his infinite cosmic power inside a woman brain >Woman brain can barely handle driving a chariot, definitively can't handle infinite cosmic power >Start getting mentally unstable and unfaithful to her God >Infinite cosmic power is basically doing whatever it want on its own, coalesce into a Tulpa to get shit done >Tulpa goes on winning wars and fricking b***hes, thank to the power of having testicles instead of ovaries >Woman keep getting more unstable and openly trying to destroy everything to get attention >Tulpa has to move back home and dick her into submission >Woman get a full woman moment when her Tulpa's ex's child kill one of hers, start trying to destroy the world and herself >Tulpa can't stop her, they both lose most of their power, Tulpa now can't manifest independently and is stuck jailed with her
Roughly.
Expect the DLC to retcon 90% of everything tho.
After Marika's unification of the lands between under the erdtree, she intended to "search the depth of the golden order" to better understand it and allow its adherents to not have to rely on blind faith. She obviously didn't like what she discovered, because it resulted in the splitting of her being into two separate individuals: herself, which now housed her newfound doubt in the golden order, and Radagon, who embodied her prior and remaining dedication and zealotry.
Radagon would strive to continue doing the bidding of the greater will by spreading order across the lands between, most notably by bringing an end to the war in Liurnia by marrying Rennala. Marika, on the other hand, would become increasingly disillusioned with the golden order, which eventually resulted in Radagon leaving Rennala to go and "marry" Marika -- basically keeping a close eye on her in case she tried to anything stupid.
Ironically, this attempt by Radagon to maintain the golden order eventually resulted in its downfall, as the impact his departure had on Rennala played a large part in his daughter's Ranni's motivation for destroying her own empyrean body and escaping the influence of the two fingers. This resulted in the night of black knives, which saw the death of Godwyn, which was likely the straw that broke the camel's back for Marika who then went on to shatter the elden ring in an act of defiance against the greater will. That initial cinematic we got when they announced the game was showing this event, and you can clearly see entity at the anvil switch between Marika trying to shatter the ring and Radagon who we can assume is trying to reforge it.
I guess.
Basically two separate beings in one body that changes a little bit depending on which being is in control of the body
Was it actually Marika pretending Rennala's husband? Or did they become "one" after he left her?
Radagon was born from Marika's psyche, they were never physically seperate but they're seperate personalities.
We don't actually know, there's theories for both options.
Evidence suggest he was a separate being before marrying Marika.
There is 0 evidence of him being a seperare being, and a dozen references to him being part of Marika.
Marika is a schizophrenic and Radagon is a split personality that developed to cope with her disillusionment with the Golden Order.
Google Rebis
Interesting lead, I'll read it.
So she can freely change body type from A to B anytime?
Most people here would just relentlessly scream troony when stuff like the rebis is brought up, but you see a lot of parallels when looking at a lot of things from media. It's a similar principle to yin and yang.
The whole purpose is supposed to be the culmination of beings therefore having both male and female qualities. Even though this is specifically supposed to be from some alchemical being that is created, I see this trope a lot and it always makes me think of stuff like this.
Yes, that makes sense, except in this case the culmination has failed and made the world miserable.
>culmination has failed
Depends the perspective I guess. I wouldn't say it's a failure as they were massively powerful entities. Whether or not what they do was right versus wrong is up to interpretation.
>made the world miserable
Again, think this depends on perspective. Some were content with the state of the world under Marika.
Kinda, yea. Awesome fight ruined by being tied to elden beast. elden beast should have been a separate boss, maybe attached to a questline/alternate ending
Yes, the final boss of ER is a troony and a giant fish.
Fromdrones will defend this.
D and his twin establish that it's possible to have one soul with two bodies, thus it implies you can have one body with two souls like Radagon/Marika.
There is also the part where Marika says "you have yet to become me" to Radagon, so perhaps he was originally a different person who got Alex Mercer'd by Marika. Or a "part" of her she broke off to go beat up giants and frick Rennala until she decided she wanted to reabsorb that part of herself, but by then he developed his own personality etc.
Is Marika even the original form? Maybe it's just some being that invades powerful bodies to use them?
Or the Elden Beast is the actual body and Marika is the one piloting it, with Radagon eventually hijacking it for himself.
>Marika says "you have yet to become me" to Radagon
In the same sentence she calls Radagon her other self. The yet to become me is a reference to the fact that Marika is the dominant "Marika" and God.
I guess. Fromsoft ripped off the Alchemic theme of the Red King and White Queen's marriage and the Story of Adam and Eve.
Reminder Elden Ring is a story about how females are evil and frick up everything while men try to clean up their mess
>Ranni (female)
Indirectly fricked the entire world by killing her half-brother just so she could achieve her own goals, which were delayed 5000 years because of a fricking cliff
>Godwyn (male)
Always depicted as honorable, good, golden boy.
>Marika (female)
Directly fricked the entire world by shattering the elden ring
>Radagon (male)
Directly slightly unfricked the entire world by half-fixing the elden ring back
>Malenia (female)
Started a petty war with Radahn and was such a sore loser she decided to cancer nuke an entire country just to make it a draw
>Miquella (male)
Literally a saint, was about to save the world before the shattering.
>Rennala (female)
Sparked the actions that would eventually culminate into her offspring fricking up the entire world because she was dumped.
>Radahn (male)
Loved by his men and pets, was a big brute with a big heart. Held the entirety of the sky to protect his hometown and the world from ayy lmao invasion even in death and insanity.
>Mogh (gay so counts as female)
Literally satan
>Morgott (male)
Stayed behind defending his loved city and what he held precious until the very end, despite being hated and seen as a monster by the very thing he swore to protect
>Sellen (female)
Sacrifices sorcerers and force people into corrupted, tortured forms to achieve her goals
>Diallos (male)
An idiot trying to do the right thing, ends up sacrificing himself to protect something
>Hyetta (female)
Brings the bad ending
>Goldmask (male)
Brings the good ending
>Rya (female)
takes you to the (evil) volcano manor, eventually at the end of her quest gives you an item that makes you take double damage
>Patches (male)
try to keep you away from the volcano manor by kicking you off a cliff, sells you useful items
*does nothing wrong*
more like
>*does nothing*
She didn't jerk you off with her feet
Not you, no.
>Get born cursed
>Thrown under the city to suffer
>Everybody fricks everything up
>Morgott emerges and becomes a great kind of Lyendell
>Kingdom prosper
>Assumes a secret identity as Margit
>Leads the Night cavalry, the elite band that hunts down the most dangerous enemies of the Erdtree
>Protect the Erdtree
>Fight the tarnished three times
>Is rewarded for his loyalty in the end by having his curse lifted by the Erdtree
Is there a bigger chad in the of Soulsgames? I dont think so.
Where do you get this information? For example, how do you know the Night Cavalry follows his orders? I thought they were some kind of ghost riders.
I hope I dont have to explain that Morgott, The Omen King and Margit, the Fell Omen are the same Omen.
Margit straight up tells you.
>The hands of the Fell Omen shall brook thee no quarter.
This is the description of the Night Cavalry armor.
>The Night's Cavalry, who now wander the dim roads at night, were once led by the Fell Omen and were deliverers of death for great warriors, knights, and champions.
Damn, thanks, you have a better memory that I am. Remembered that description only after reading your post.
I just like the character, so its the lore I remember. Forgot most of the stuff by now.
He wasnt just a king in the era of the shattering. He made himself a king, anonymously, and people prospered and loved him without even knowing what he looked like. You have to remember that an omen could never be a king.
The fall of Leyndell was inevitable. The land is fricked, everybody is going hollow. The shattering fricked everything. Leyndell is the only place that prospered some time after shattering. Everything else went to shit fast as nobody took care of it. Morgott is the only demigod that actually did anything positive and nobody expected it of him. On the contrary, being cursed and spurned his whole life he has the best reason to frick shit up not that he is free, but he does the opposite. Unlike his homosexual brother.
Now he just protect the Erdtree and his mother. Chad if I ever seen one.
He's king in the era of the Shattering, and sees Leyndell fall to ruin while seething at anyone who tries to save the day. So he wasn't a very good king
He's no better than a white liberal. He's a cuck supporting the system that made the lives of himself and his kin a living nightmare.
>USgay political analogy
Your entire political system is a joke and this is a board about video games. Frick off.
>kingdom prospers
Lol no he is the fake self appointed king of ashes.
The people of Leyndell loved him. They were extremely elitist about their Golden city too. The capital prospered under Morgott for as long as it could.
>Goldmask (male)
Brings the good ending
Sometimes I feel like Goldmask is From method to separate the morons from normal people. Dark souls ended in tragedy, with everyone dying, all because Gwyn messed with the natural order of the world and made it impossible for anyone else to fix his mistake.
Now Goldmask comes along and does the same thing, making it impossible to change whatever new rule the greater will wants to force upon the world, and yet all those morons love Goldmask because he T-posed once or twice. Not everything that shines like gold is actually made of gold, something the morons who love Goldmask never seen to realize.
It's a joke, moron. Just look at the very next entry.
Next time take your meds before posting.
We dont really know if any of the endings are good or bad. They all have a good points and unknown negatives. There is not one of the ending that I would call bad. They all make sense and are hopeful in their own way. Even the one where you curse everyone by eating out their buttholes.
this is the most surface level incel you couldve made the statement- if you were even half as smart as you think you are you wouldve chimped out and started talking about aspects of the feminine and masculine and their traditional roles in language, esoteric religion and alchemy etc.
but youre just a moron so you said "WOMAN BAD". this isnt a commentary on "WOMAN BAD" thinking, its that youre too boring to make it sound interesting
(female)
>Brings the bad ending
So you just gonna ignore Shabriri?
>>Rya (female)
>takes you to the (evil) volcano manor, eventually at the end of her quest gives you an item that makes you take double damage
(male)
>try to keep you away from the volcano manor by kicking you off a cliff, sells you useful items
Okay you are just taking a piss, good job making me reply.
Yes? No? Its a 2 in one deal.
It's a boss fight
more like godlike being do mitosis so he can be two people at once and procreate with himself to try to create a new generation of better godlike beings
it didn't go too well so he tryed with others beings after that, leading to all the demigods
He didn't know shit in the end.
more like: he knew most things except the things that really matter. many such cases (IRL too)
Separate souls. One body. Completely different characters trapped in one.
Elden ring god resurrects people and can do so in new bodies. Its like a big server that contains everyones souls after they die and it can reupload them into new forms
This is probably GRRM's only contribution to the game, in GoT Jamie and cersei say they are one being in two bodies, Marika and Radagon are the opposite of that.
>iT'S iNTeRprEtIvE bRoOooO!!1!
>tHe StORy iS InFERReD fRoM THe DeSCrIpTIonS!1!!11!
Elden Ring and Dark Souls 3 have GUTTER tier trash writing. It's full of plotholes that exist due to countless redesigns and cut-content and rushed development that plagues both games.
>It's full of plotholes
Name them
why are there dead blacknife assassins around Blaidd and Iji when Ranni is the one who used them to kill Godwyn in the first place and all involved are loyal to ranni. theyre not so much plotholes as just scenes that appear for literally no reason because it isnt the type of game to explain why things happen
Black knife assassins are not loyal to Ranni. Ranni just stole the destined dead that was used to enchant the daggers of black knife assassins that used them to kill Godwyn. We know that the assassins are associated with Marika and Eternal City. This will hopefully be more explored in the DLC, as we just dont know.
As to why they tried to kill Blaidd and Iji I dont know. It only happens when Ranni is near the end of her quest, so maybe Marika is just trying to stop Ranni from using the player to destroy the greater will.
>all involved are loyal to ranni
the leader of the assassins is imprisoned at Ranni's Moonlight Altar
the better question would be why did one of the two parties seemingly betrayed the other
all Empyreans can embody a gendered aspect different than their own. this is why (You) [Type B] can still make space babies with your husband Ranni
Goddamn, reading your posts, I realized that I fricked up or didn't finish NPC quests, and there were some character I really liked, they either died or disappeared. I'll have to replay with a guide probably to save them or at least give them what they want.
>Ayylmao God cram his infinite cosmic power inside a woman brain
>Woman brain can barely handle driving a chariot, definitively can't handle infinite cosmic power
>Start getting mentally unstable and unfaithful to her God
>Infinite cosmic power is basically doing whatever it want on its own, coalesce into a Tulpa to get shit done
>Tulpa goes on winning wars and fricking b***hes, thank to the power of having testicles instead of ovaries
>Woman keep getting more unstable and openly trying to destroy everything to get attention
>Tulpa has to move back home and dick her into submission
>Woman get a full woman moment when her Tulpa's ex's child kill one of hers, start trying to destroy the world and herself
>Tulpa can't stop her, they both lose most of their power, Tulpa now can't manifest independently and is stuck jailed with her
Roughly.
Expect the DLC to retcon 90% of everything tho.
Makes sense, I'm also starting to think it was just some alien possession.
After Marika's unification of the lands between under the erdtree, she intended to "search the depth of the golden order" to better understand it and allow its adherents to not have to rely on blind faith. She obviously didn't like what she discovered, because it resulted in the splitting of her being into two separate individuals: herself, which now housed her newfound doubt in the golden order, and Radagon, who embodied her prior and remaining dedication and zealotry.
Radagon would strive to continue doing the bidding of the greater will by spreading order across the lands between, most notably by bringing an end to the war in Liurnia by marrying Rennala. Marika, on the other hand, would become increasingly disillusioned with the golden order, which eventually resulted in Radagon leaving Rennala to go and "marry" Marika -- basically keeping a close eye on her in case she tried to anything stupid.
Ironically, this attempt by Radagon to maintain the golden order eventually resulted in its downfall, as the impact his departure had on Rennala played a large part in his daughter's Ranni's motivation for destroying her own empyrean body and escaping the influence of the two fingers. This resulted in the night of black knives, which saw the death of Godwyn, which was likely the straw that broke the camel's back for Marika who then went on to shatter the elden ring in an act of defiance against the greater will. That initial cinematic we got when they announced the game was showing this event, and you can clearly see entity at the anvil switch between Marika trying to shatter the ring and Radagon who we can assume is trying to reforge it.
TL;DR Jekyll and Hyde but one of them has breasts
sir Gideon Ofnir the ALL-KNOWING is here
Its a trans person
In this game you play as a transphobic
Chud Fantasy Simulator
What the frick is happening in Windmill village? They are Godskin cultists or what?
your welcome