its at its best when you're only engaging with the exploration and crafting systems and completely ignoring the story and npcs (I've never played the dlc maybe they're better)
I'm at my most 'satisfied' playing Skyrim when I'm in some random cave mining moonstone or iron and get a bunch of perfect gems (I just stealth-archered like 5 cave spiders) and then using transmutation to turn iron into gold as I explore picking herbs for alchemy
I really want to get into this but it seems like it was designed with zero difficulty in mind, especially with the fact health regens outisde of combat automatically
def my most played game, got it when it launched in 2011 for the ps3, then played thousands of hours in ps3, ps4 and pc, one of the best games of all time imo
Wish I could go back to release day. Preordered it in junior high with my friends at a mom and pop game shop across the street. They told me in advance to not worry about bringing a parent for the sale, I was 13 or 14. Went there after school with two of my friends and we set up two PC’s and an Xbox in my basement and all played together all day and all night.
I bought it for its full retail price in 2012, played it for half an hour, then gave up because the movement gave me motion sickness. Never touched it again.
>play it religiously for 200 hours on ps3/360 in 2011 >play for another 600 on pc with mods years later >become a contrarian and shit on it relentlessly after hating bethesda became cool
Alone it’s fine and it’s still fun with mods, but over the years it has come to be the staple of Bethesda’s decline with constant rereleases and the first inklings of the mistakes they have continuously made in every game since.
It’s like a 7/10, but the soundtrack and beautiful world carry it so you have fun and think it’s better than it actually is. It’s not a masterpiece like Morrowind, but it was Bethesda’s last good game.
After installing a mod that removed level scaling, I thought the game was decent but worse than Morrowind. God I fricking hate Bethesda's level scaling systems where you have to be careful about what skills you level or else you end up being weaker than the enemies. That shit is so stupid and almost ruins the point of the games being RPGs. It's strange they went that route too, since Morrowind was completely fine without it.
imo one of the best parts of an RPG is getting your ass kicked in a certain cave or temple or whatever, and coming back later after you're higher level and slaughtering the enemies who were giving you trouble. Anyway thanks for reading my autistic rant.
Combat sucks
Magic is the worst it's ever been
Dungeons were ok slightly better than oblivitron
Music still good
Quests are complete ass
Story?
Alchemy/enchanting is the best its ever been with reagents everywhere
World map is gud although boring like oblivitron
7/10
An okay open world action game with some watered down, but still okay, RPG mechanics and perks. Perks can make the game so much more enjoyable as it goes on.
Like pork and salt work together so well, as do mods and this game; you basically can't have one without the other.
It's a disappointing Elder Scrolls game in terms of its RPG elements and even the combat. If you're going to have a game where the combat feels so weightless, floaty and weird then you may as well just have dice-rolls again like Morrowind or Daggerfall. Exploration is nice only because of the way that the map is designed and how much stuff can happen randomly, it's certainly a step up from Oblivion in that regard (but Daggerfall with mods blows both out of the water hard). However, as an RPG it remains a massive downgrade from Daggerfall, Morrowind and Oblivion (even though this game was already kinda watered down, I still appreciate that you are somewhat constrained by your class). There are no constraints on you due to class and I don't like that, it lends to the Dragonborn not feeling like a real part of the world at all.
Like I said, exploration is probably the nicest aspect of the game and it's difficult to describe why, but it basically comes down to the world being competently crafted and mostly not boring to traverse if you're not totally OP. The worst aspect is the scale of the world as it feels far too small and underpopulated, but that's been a complaint since Morrowind. I hold out hppe that TESVI is going to have more capacity to generate cities that feel like cities but not too much hope.
Crafting and enchanting both feel great and are a lot of fun.
Overall, it's a mid-tier game with some addictive systems, massive potential to be actually great thanks to mods and a well crafted world which lends to fun while exploring. Its biggest drawback is that it is a reminder of Bethesda's move away from traditional RPGs, which do what they do very well, to ARPGs which are simply servicable.
It’s weird because I played this when I was 12 and saw the imperials as the good guys because the stormcloaks are racist, but now I realize that the imperials (mostly the thalmor that control them like puppets) also want to prevent the worship or talos and eventually wipe out all of humanity, and the nords only grew so insular as a way to protect their traditions and way of life from being destroyed.
I am 38 years old and I will refrain from calling it the best video game of all time because that is a very subjective discussion but I think at the end of the day, video games peaked with Skyrim.
It's a blast if you learn to accept how fundamentally fricked the combat is. No mod will fix it, but that's fine because you can compensate in other ways. Combat related mods that I will probably never play without:
Apocalypse
Mysticism
Swifly order squad
Follower tweaks/UFO
Precision
First person animation overhaul
Combat gameplay overhaul
Immersive creatures/armors/weapons
Sprint jump
floating health bars
and all the dragon behaviour mods like deadly dragons, dragon combat overhaul and diverse dragons collection
>all these combat mods >still circle strafing and shooting while dragon attacks NPC
I know you said the combat is fundamentally broken, but at which point is it even worth trying to mod it? I've tried all these and more and no matter what you're just going to be using ice spike and unrelenting force anyways.
I love Elder Scrolls and for me it all started with Skyrim, I’ve done multiple playthrough, easily in the hundreds for hours played, it’s obvious I like the game but I still haven't played the Dragonborn DLC, probably because I always save it for last
Skyrim feels insulting to play with the constant handholding, laughable puzzles and zero consequences to anything the player does. The game constantly treats the player like a moron, the only way you could enjoy it is if you're an actual moron. In that case the game is correct and you are its target audience. This is my honest opinion, and it is the truth.
Wait actually no, the combat isn't terrible, it's not amazing but it doesn't ruin my experience, it's serviceable.
Systems around the combat like alchemy, magic, skills, etc are dogshit but the combat itself is okay if that makes sense.
It was amazing back in the day but I haven't played it for years because I've already done basically everything in the game. And I don't have the patience to troubleshoot shit loads of mods any more so I probably won't ever play it again.
What do people who have thousands of hours in modded Skyrim do in the game? Are there that many overhaul mods or is it all porn mods? Do the porn mods really provide that much entertainment value? Seems like a lot of effort over just jerking off to some vids or pics online.
Both. But it terms of porn mods some go crazy with it and start having bandits rape the player character or collecting women as sex slaves, but I think most people just want sex scenes for companions, considering love and marriage buffs are already part of the base game so they'll use the "realism" argument.
The only redeeming aspect is the atmosphere. It did a poor job blending action game and RPG. I could write a thousand word essay on how any given feature in skyrim relating to gameplay was poorly designed
Pros: >Special Edition looks good for its age. >Voice acting and faces are improved over Oblivion. >More NPC activities than Oblivion. NPCs can play instruments, sing songs, work an anvil, some other things too I think. >Crafting is pretty addictive, I enjoy it more here than in other TES games. >Stuff looks cool. The armour sets, the cities, the Argonians - all on point.
Cons: >In the special edition there's a draw distance of a about 50 feet and then it's all low detail from that point on. Standing on a mountain and looking across a valley, this ugly limitation is bothersome. >Your companions can't ride horses. When you ride across the plains, they sprint behind you with their bad pathing programming and frequently get stuck in the scenery. This does not look like Fellowship of the Ring, Todd. Not at all. >Special Edition provided a welcome new coat of paint, but it's the exact same game under the hood with ancient bugs. Todd wants to keep selling you the game but he doesn't want to spend money on fixing it.
>NPCs can play instruments, sing songs, work an anvil, some other things too I think.
Things that add absolutely nothing meanwhile ways the player can actually interact with NPCs have been reduced
which they fixed in oblivion by giving people schedules and tasks.
giving them a half dozen new animations and scrapping the schedules was not exactly the immersive route
and one of the biggest praises morrowind gets is its freedom in letting you do between a wide variety of different builds and playstyles. Its not worth losing gameplay things like that for superficial things like NPCs playing instruments
Fantastic game. No other game offers similar experiences like TES, so I'm tired of all the nitpicking simply because it's the most successful and most popular RPG.
>Skyrim has a good map but it is not well connected because the devs knew that with ez fast travel they didn't really have to think much about traversal >really crappy sandbox for an open world of it's size >guilds are implemented like garbage and built like one questline each with no tangible benefits for being a member >the story and quests, don't think I even need to explain >simplistic combat, boring magic with no spell creation, enemy scaling
I still play it yearly along with morrowind but I have to tweak it way too much for me to call it more than a 7/10
>really crappy sandbox for an open world of it's size
Care to list some games that do it better? Even ignoring mods there's a ton of stuff you can do in Skyrim that you simply can't do in many other open world games. It's one of the game's biggest strengths imo
I hate Skyrim. One of the greatest games ever made. Right now I’m playing Dragons Dogma 2, even with 12 years it’s inferior.
Yet instead of making games they pushed a MMO nobody played. Frick those corporate pricks. Frick them so hard. I’m a millionaire economist and these fricks are the only argument that make me hate capitalism.
It was fun for the first 20 hours until you realise every dungeon has exactly the same structure and there's nothing of interest to discover and the story sucks and you can exploit the levelling system to become grossly OP in 10 minutes.
>every dungeon has exactly the same structure
Stop repeating the same 5 dungeons then. There's tons of variety, so I don't know where this false claim comes from, fricking clueless NPCs.
It terms on just existing in the word, it's the most soulful game every made. First person, large vistas, highly interactive game engine, and of course, a LOTR level soundtrack. The game itself, it's okay, but it doesn't matter when the game has so much soul.
Stats
They "simplified" the stat system by removing strength / dexterity, etc, but made the damage/defence stats super convoluted which led to insane power creep with attack damage multiplier stacking and also made the game require level scaling to try and keep the worlds power more relative to the player.
Ironically enough the stat system would have been more simple, (and there would be no need for level scaling at all), if they kept strength/dexterity and had no % damage modifiers in the game. They could have had a DnD style stat system where strength and such cap out at like 25 through hard stats and focused more on the "action" portion of the game
The UI has poor screen real estate management. too much clicking through menus and scrolling.
The writing >is inconsistent. and at time unimmersive
A woodsman not believing spriggands (who live in the woods) are real is not believable. It is immersion breaking. >Low fantasy, or intrusion fantasy, is a subgenre of fantasy fiction in which magical events intrude on an otherwise-normal world.
The writers make it feel like the spriggands are invading in an otherwise normal world (which is not the case). its like they want elder scrolls to be low fantasy. Skyrim looks like earth. the only tell its not earth is the skybox. The NPCs sometimes act like the creatures dont belong in the world.
Thats the writing.
I’m not sure I’ve played a well written Western game. I must of but I think if you have any talent at all your better of writing a book or going to Hollywood.
>No choices or consequences, no requirements, can become leader of every guild regardless of your skills or character >No fail states or alternative outcomes to quests, NPCs will get STUCK if you don't want to proceed with quests (ex. companion quests if you don't want lycanthropy) >Rehashed and recycled draugh/dwarven dungeons everywhere as filler for radiant quests. Same claw/stones "puzzle", same enemies. >Downgraded/dumbed down skill and signs systems, no classes. >One dimensional characters and awful forgettable main quest. >Even the fricking DLC is scripted with zero roleplaying or choices. You can't even side with Harkon
Awful, and a terrible influence for modern RPGs
Excellent atmosphere, beautiful setting, terrible quest design, boring story.
I hate being the chosen one, and also being allowed to do everything with every faction without any choices ever forcing me to definitively give anything up when I make them. Every time Id replay it Id avoid meeting the greybeards and becoming dovahkiin as long as possible so I could live in the setting like a half normal person.
I also think the melee combat is floaty and lackluster which is an understandable problem but a big one for a game in that setting. I think thats the real reason everyone becomes a stealth archer.
The dungeons are also too visually repetitive and I wish Bethesda would get rid of level scaling in favor of having inherently more dangerous places.
Soundtrack is pretty amazing.
It's the most boring TES game. I couldn't finish it. Had a friend do it on my PC and I watched him. Haven't managed to ever replay it for over 4 hours since and it's been 13 years if not more.
I played it, I modded it. It's alright, not a life changing experience but a decent time sink, it's janky yeah but still interesting.
But I don't ever want to play it again.
One thing they did well in Skyrim was the daedric quests. I loved the idea of having to decide whether to do the right thing for no reward, or do something evil for a powerful daedric item.
Great modding scene, mostly because across the board it's worse then Oblivion and modders cropped up everywhere to try and fix it. It you can tolerate bad writing then the atmosphere is ok. That said it's still one of the worst elder scrolls games.
aged like milk
i agree with this post, which is both the first and the best of all posts in this thread.
It's mediocre, has awful combat, and it's buggy, but inexplicably fun once you get into it
Probably the best description
i'm asking this genuinely, because skyrim combat doesn't bother me
what are some rpgs that have good combat for me to try?
It was fun at first but got repetitive after less than 20 hours
its at its best when you're only engaging with the exploration and crafting systems and completely ignoring the story and npcs (I've never played the dlc maybe they're better)
I'm at my most 'satisfied' playing Skyrim when I'm in some random cave mining moonstone or iron and get a bunch of perfect gems (I just stealth-archered like 5 cave spiders) and then using transmutation to turn iron into gold as I explore picking herbs for alchemy
>It's at best when you play the game by not playing the game
At this point just touch grass you moron.
That IS the game, moron. Skyrim is much more about exploration and interacting with the world than it is about just killing stuff.
I really want to get into this but it seems like it was designed with zero difficulty in mind, especially with the fact health regens outisde of combat automatically
def my most played game, got it when it launched in 2011 for the ps3, then played thousands of hours in ps3, ps4 and pc, one of the best games of all time imo
I really can't get it to work properly with mods. I feel like it's meant to be played casually which goes against what I like about ARPGs
I always do. Good game shame about the bugs.
The game itself is kinda mid but no one gives a shit because the world and OST are crammed full of sovl, like every other pre-Fallout 4 Bethesda game.
Unironically not great not terrible
Meh
played it for the first time last year and I had a lot of fun
It changed my life but thats just because i was 13 at release
Wish I could go back to release day. Preordered it in junior high with my friends at a mom and pop game shop across the street. They told me in advance to not worry about bringing a parent for the sale, I was 13 or 14. Went there after school with two of my friends and we set up two PC’s and an Xbox in my basement and all played together all day and all night.
I bought it for its full retail price in 2012, played it for half an hour, then gave up because the movement gave me motion sickness. Never touched it again.
Industry defining masterpiece
Smithing and enchanting kind of break the game
loved it when I was a kid, as an adult I can still go back and have fun with it but I have to installed 500 mods
>play it religiously for 200 hours on ps3/360 in 2011
>play for another 600 on pc with mods years later
>become a contrarian and shit on it relentlessly after hating bethesda became cool
Alone it’s fine and it’s still fun with mods, but over the years it has come to be the staple of Bethesda’s decline with constant rereleases and the first inklings of the mistakes they have continuously made in every game since.
Broken mess when I first played it still was fun
>torrent super special edition for better graphics
>spend 2 hours downloading and installing
>lose interest before terrible intro sequence ends
Unrivalled masterpiece despite its flaws, the largest of which is the barren tundra setting.
The soundtrack carry’s the game so hard
skyrim would have been better if there was more tundra. thats mostly in the very upper north. most of the map is boring woodsy areas
It’s like a 7/10, but the soundtrack and beautiful world carry it so you have fun and think it’s better than it actually is. It’s not a masterpiece like Morrowind, but it was Bethesda’s last good game.
I think everyone should go buy a copy right now
After installing a mod that removed level scaling, I thought the game was decent but worse than Morrowind. God I fricking hate Bethesda's level scaling systems where you have to be careful about what skills you level or else you end up being weaker than the enemies. That shit is so stupid and almost ruins the point of the games being RPGs. It's strange they went that route too, since Morrowind was completely fine without it.
imo one of the best parts of an RPG is getting your ass kicked in a certain cave or temple or whatever, and coming back later after you're higher level and slaughtering the enemies who were giving you trouble. Anyway thanks for reading my autistic rant.
morrowind also has level scaling and stupid skill leveling
It absolutely does not have level scaling, have you even played the game?
have you?
https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Leveled_Creatures_(Morrowind)
Combat sucks
Magic is the worst it's ever been
Dungeons were ok slightly better than oblivitron
Music still good
Quests are complete ass
Story?
Alchemy/enchanting is the best its ever been with reagents everywhere
World map is gud although boring like oblivitron
7/10
90% dumb opinions, are you vaccinated
Genetic dead end Cringe
An okay open world action game with some watered down, but still okay, RPG mechanics and perks. Perks can make the game so much more enjoyable as it goes on.
Like pork and salt work together so well, as do mods and this game; you basically can't have one without the other.
It's a disappointing Elder Scrolls game in terms of its RPG elements and even the combat. If you're going to have a game where the combat feels so weightless, floaty and weird then you may as well just have dice-rolls again like Morrowind or Daggerfall. Exploration is nice only because of the way that the map is designed and how much stuff can happen randomly, it's certainly a step up from Oblivion in that regard (but Daggerfall with mods blows both out of the water hard). However, as an RPG it remains a massive downgrade from Daggerfall, Morrowind and Oblivion (even though this game was already kinda watered down, I still appreciate that you are somewhat constrained by your class). There are no constraints on you due to class and I don't like that, it lends to the Dragonborn not feeling like a real part of the world at all.
Like I said, exploration is probably the nicest aspect of the game and it's difficult to describe why, but it basically comes down to the world being competently crafted and mostly not boring to traverse if you're not totally OP. The worst aspect is the scale of the world as it feels far too small and underpopulated, but that's been a complaint since Morrowind. I hold out hppe that TESVI is going to have more capacity to generate cities that feel like cities but not too much hope.
Crafting and enchanting both feel great and are a lot of fun.
Overall, it's a mid-tier game with some addictive systems, massive potential to be actually great thanks to mods and a well crafted world which lends to fun while exploring. Its biggest drawback is that it is a reminder of Bethesda's move away from traditional RPGs, which do what they do very well, to ARPGs which are simply servicable.
So good that Todd had to port it to every single console in existence, that's enough proof of it's success
Empty, soulless, aimless hackfest of a piece of shit "game." Wtf was Worstesda thinking?
It’s weird because I played this when I was 12 and saw the imperials as the good guys because the stormcloaks are racist, but now I realize that the imperials (mostly the thalmor that control them like puppets) also want to prevent the worship or talos and eventually wipe out all of humanity, and the nords only grew so insular as a way to protect their traditions and way of life from being destroyed.
I don't even know why I'm still trying to get it to work when half the mods are broken and it freezes randomly
i play the nefaram modpack and jerk off for hours at a time
all of the writing and storytelling is abysmal.
it's shit
t. NV God
Compared to NV most Bethesda games are shit. Not really fair to use that as a bar.
yes
Without a doubt, Skyrim is still the best porn game in the market.
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Any modders want to diagnose my call stack so I can play this mid game for the first time?
Masterpiece on the level of OOT. That's my honest opinion.
U mad? Too bad.
it's boring
I am 38 years old and I will refrain from calling it the best video game of all time because that is a very subjective discussion but I think at the end of the day, video games peaked with Skyrim.
Are you me?
I loved morrowind but dropped skyrim quickly it was boring.
oblivion was better
Dawnguard DLC was better than Dragonborn DLC.
The guild quest lines were worse than their Oblivion counterparts, but the stand alone quests were better.
It's a blast if you learn to accept how fundamentally fricked the combat is. No mod will fix it, but that's fine because you can compensate in other ways. Combat related mods that I will probably never play without:
Apocalypse
Mysticism
Swifly order squad
Follower tweaks/UFO
Precision
First person animation overhaul
Combat gameplay overhaul
Immersive creatures/armors/weapons
Sprint jump
floating health bars
and all the dragon behaviour mods like deadly dragons, dragon combat overhaul and diverse dragons collection
>all these combat mods
>still circle strafing and shooting while dragon attacks NPC
I know you said the combat is fundamentally broken, but at which point is it even worth trying to mod it? I've tried all these and more and no matter what you're just going to be using ice spike and unrelenting force anyways.
I love Elder Scrolls and for me it all started with Skyrim, I’ve done multiple playthrough, easily in the hundreds for hours played, it’s obvious I like the game but I still haven't played the Dragonborn DLC, probably because I always save it for last
How badly am I fricking up
Skyrim feels insulting to play with the constant handholding, laughable puzzles and zero consequences to anything the player does. The game constantly treats the player like a moron, the only way you could enjoy it is if you're an actual moron. In that case the game is correct and you are its target audience. This is my honest opinion, and it is the truth.
Best game of all time
Great atmosphere and a very enjoyable open world to explore
Terrible everything else
I still don't know if I love it or hate it
Wait actually no, the combat isn't terrible, it's not amazing but it doesn't ruin my experience, it's serviceable.
Systems around the combat like alchemy, magic, skills, etc are dogshit but the combat itself is okay if that makes sense.
name a combat system you enjoyed in video games
I suspect diablo will be the answer
>Skyrim has bad comb-
lel
Come on bro. Not even porting Elden Ring animations could save its combat.
>playing skyrim for the combat and not the exploration
>Playing Skyrim at all
It was amazing back in the day but I haven't played it for years because I've already done basically everything in the game. And I don't have the patience to troubleshoot shit loads of mods any more so I probably won't ever play it again.
enjoying skyrim just means you have a double digit IQ
It was only fun in 2011
the kind of game i know i will return to it in 10 years if TES6 is shit.
>*destroys the elder scrolls VI*
which mod
it's Tainted Grail
That was actually my first guess. I didn't want to be called a zoomer when it turned out to be Ultima Underworld 4 the definitive classic edition
What do people who have thousands of hours in modded Skyrim do in the game? Are there that many overhaul mods or is it all porn mods? Do the porn mods really provide that much entertainment value? Seems like a lot of effort over just jerking off to some vids or pics online.
Yes I am genuinely asking.
Both. But it terms of porn mods some go crazy with it and start having bandits rape the player character or collecting women as sex slaves, but I think most people just want sex scenes for companions, considering love and marriage buffs are already part of the base game so they'll use the "realism" argument.
The only redeeming aspect is the atmosphere. It did a poor job blending action game and RPG. I could write a thousand word essay on how any given feature in skyrim relating to gameplay was poorly designed
I bought it three times: twice on PC, once on the Switch.
Pros:
>Special Edition looks good for its age.
>Voice acting and faces are improved over Oblivion.
>More NPC activities than Oblivion. NPCs can play instruments, sing songs, work an anvil, some other things too I think.
>Crafting is pretty addictive, I enjoy it more here than in other TES games.
>Stuff looks cool. The armour sets, the cities, the Argonians - all on point.
Cons:
>In the special edition there's a draw distance of a about 50 feet and then it's all low detail from that point on. Standing on a mountain and looking across a valley, this ugly limitation is bothersome.
>Your companions can't ride horses. When you ride across the plains, they sprint behind you with their bad pathing programming and frequently get stuck in the scenery. This does not look like Fellowship of the Ring, Todd. Not at all.
>Special Edition provided a welcome new coat of paint, but it's the exact same game under the hood with ancient bugs. Todd wants to keep selling you the game but he doesn't want to spend money on fixing it.
>NPCs can play instruments, sing songs, work an anvil, some other things too I think.
Things that add absolutely nothing meanwhile ways the player can actually interact with NPCs have been reduced
>add absolutely nothing meanwhile ways
It adds to immersion. One of the most common complaints about Morrowind is its stiff, inert world.
which they fixed in oblivion by giving people schedules and tasks.
giving them a half dozen new animations and scrapping the schedules was not exactly the immersive route
schedules are the exact same horseshit you absolute moron
morrowind has the best NPCs because they are the most interactive
and one of the biggest praises morrowind gets is its freedom in letting you do between a wide variety of different builds and playstyles. Its not worth losing gameplay things like that for superficial things like NPCs playing instruments
Fantastic game. No other game offers similar experiences like TES, so I'm tired of all the nitpicking simply because it's the most successful and most popular RPG.
it's fine but deeply flawed,
>Skyrim has a good map but it is not well connected because the devs knew that with ez fast travel they didn't really have to think much about traversal
>really crappy sandbox for an open world of it's size
>guilds are implemented like garbage and built like one questline each with no tangible benefits for being a member
>the story and quests, don't think I even need to explain
>simplistic combat, boring magic with no spell creation, enemy scaling
I still play it yearly along with morrowind but I have to tweak it way too much for me to call it more than a 7/10
>really crappy sandbox for an open world of it's size
Care to list some games that do it better? Even ignoring mods there's a ton of stuff you can do in Skyrim that you simply can't do in many other open world games. It's one of the game's biggest strengths imo
I hate Skyrim. One of the greatest games ever made. Right now I’m playing Dragons Dogma 2, even with 12 years it’s inferior.
Yet instead of making games they pushed a MMO nobody played. Frick those corporate pricks. Frick them so hard. I’m a millionaire economist and these fricks are the only argument that make me hate capitalism.
It was fun for the first 20 hours until you realise every dungeon has exactly the same structure and there's nothing of interest to discover and the story sucks and you can exploit the levelling system to become grossly OP in 10 minutes.
>every dungeon has exactly the same structure
Stop repeating the same 5 dungeons then. There's tons of variety, so I don't know where this false claim comes from, fricking clueless NPCs.
It terms on just existing in the word, it's the most soulful game every made. First person, large vistas, highly interactive game engine, and of course, a LOTR level soundtrack. The game itself, it's okay, but it doesn't matter when the game has so much soul.
Stats
They "simplified" the stat system by removing strength / dexterity, etc, but made the damage/defence stats super convoluted which led to insane power creep with attack damage multiplier stacking and also made the game require level scaling to try and keep the worlds power more relative to the player.
Ironically enough the stat system would have been more simple, (and there would be no need for level scaling at all), if they kept strength/dexterity and had no % damage modifiers in the game. They could have had a DnD style stat system where strength and such cap out at like 25 through hard stats and focused more on the "action" portion of the game
The UI has poor screen real estate management. too much clicking through menus and scrolling.
The writing
>is inconsistent. and at time unimmersive
A woodsman not believing spriggands (who live in the woods) are real is not believable. It is immersion breaking.
>Low fantasy, or intrusion fantasy, is a subgenre of fantasy fiction in which magical events intrude on an otherwise-normal world.
The writers make it feel like the spriggands are invading in an otherwise normal world (which is not the case). its like they want elder scrolls to be low fantasy. Skyrim looks like earth. the only tell its not earth is the skybox. The NPCs sometimes act like the creatures dont belong in the world.
Thats the writing.
I’m not sure I’ve played a well written Western game. I must of but I think if you have any talent at all your better of writing a book or going to Hollywood.
Planescape torrent and Wasteland 3, I guess I can think of 2.
I love it and still play it semi-regularly
fun
Extremely overrated. Shit missions, shit music, garbage combat
Incredibly bland and undercooked by itself. Becomes a good game with mods.
This does not not mean that Bethesda should deserve praise however. That goes to the modding community for finishing the game.
>No choices or consequences, no requirements, can become leader of every guild regardless of your skills or character
>No fail states or alternative outcomes to quests, NPCs will get STUCK if you don't want to proceed with quests (ex. companion quests if you don't want lycanthropy)
>Rehashed and recycled draugh/dwarven dungeons everywhere as filler for radiant quests. Same claw/stones "puzzle", same enemies.
>Downgraded/dumbed down skill and signs systems, no classes.
>One dimensional characters and awful forgettable main quest.
>Even the fricking DLC is scripted with zero roleplaying or choices. You can't even side with Harkon
Awful, and a terrible influence for modern RPGs
The cover art looks beautiful.
Excellent atmosphere, beautiful setting, terrible quest design, boring story.
I hate being the chosen one, and also being allowed to do everything with every faction without any choices ever forcing me to definitively give anything up when I make them. Every time Id replay it Id avoid meeting the greybeards and becoming dovahkiin as long as possible so I could live in the setting like a half normal person.
I also think the melee combat is floaty and lackluster which is an understandable problem but a big one for a game in that setting. I think thats the real reason everyone becomes a stealth archer.
The dungeons are also too visually repetitive and I wish Bethesda would get rid of level scaling in favor of having inherently more dangerous places.
Soundtrack is pretty amazing.
Continues the trend of every Bethesda game being worse than the one before with morrowind being the peak.
Skyrim belongs to the Nords, and the indigenous peoples of Skyrim are justified in violently resisting their colonizers
Another reason for me to support the Empire. Thank you.
It's the most boring TES game. I couldn't finish it. Had a friend do it on my PC and I watched him. Haven't managed to ever replay it for over 4 hours since and it's been 13 years if not more.
I played it, I modded it. It's alright, not a life changing experience but a decent time sink, it's janky yeah but still interesting.
But I don't ever want to play it again.
One thing they did well in Skyrim was the daedric quests. I loved the idea of having to decide whether to do the right thing for no reward, or do something evil for a powerful daedric item.
Aged like wine.
ma'am aren't you cold
Great modding scene, mostly because across the board it's worse then Oblivion and modders cropped up everywhere to try and fix it. It you can tolerate bad writing then the atmosphere is ok. That said it's still one of the worst elder scrolls games.
Viking fantasy theme park that's fun to visit but you wouldn't want to stay there.