>announced a year ago
>no news, no hype, nothing
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>no news, no hype, nothing
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Kh3 was a mess trying to show horn every kh game and reference into one game after taking 10 years off from consoles. Kh4 should be a soft reboot that grounds the story more but nomura is going to double down on the incomprehensible plot of 3 and add more incomprehensible ideas to it. It didn’t help that 3s gameplay was horrendous with the attractions showing up every 5 seconds.
You can turn attractions off.
KH4 will be totally incomprehensible if you haven't watched KHUX cut scenes on YouTube beforehand.
do you guys really called it KHUX? pronounced like cucks?
Most people just call KHX
shut the frick up.
Nomura gays are such defensive manchildren lol
You'd defend your mother from getting raped, wouldn't you? or nah because that's how you were born lol
You are mentally ill, all KHgays get the rope
The girl from the trailer is from the mobile game, same with the new main antagonists (Master of Masters, Xigbar, and those guys with animal masks).
KH story isn't incomprehensible its just legit bad
3 is a really odd game given that it's really the follow-up to BBS with Sora and friends needing to be dragged into it via DDD. You are absolutely correct that they should not use this game as an opportunity to spindle more and more plot threads, but Nomura can't help himself. KH3 was already throwing down more shit for Xigbar.
But the BBS cast and Clocktower crew absolutely need to be retired. No more of that.
>Kh4 should be a soft reboot that grounds the story
>Wanting soft reboots
have a nice day.
>Kh4 should be a soft reboot that grounds the story more
Explain what you even mean by this, do you mean lower stakes, no end of the world type stuff, no evil organizations, no magic, what do you want?
Sora's character design just keeps getting worse. He never ages and his hair looks like shit. The aesthetic of the game is ugly, the last game was trash. The series died after KH2.
Also this. Introduce a new character (wouldn’t be the first time) to soft reboot the franchise and make the plot simple and clean, pun and intended. If they double down on kh3s incomprehensible plot I’m afraid that’s going to turn a lot of people off myself included.
>If they double down on kh3s incomprehensible plot I’m afraid that’s going to turn a lot of people off myself included.
Oh no, what will they do without all five of those 30 IQ mentally disabled mongoloids who get filtered by the story of a Disney game? Oh, I know! They'll still get millions of sales from people who aren't moronic.
haven't seen a post this delusional in months
If people have kept up the games despite the "incomprehensible plot" have you considered that most actually like it? Like any long running game series with a continuous plot?
Sora was the most wanted Smash character anon despite you morons being insistent no one cares for this franchise. Clearly they do. Stop coping so hard because not everyone is inside your echo chamber.
Hopefully the design in the OP image will be dependent on the realistic city world shown in the trailer and won't be his true appearance for the rest of the game.
It doesn't even matter because he would just look similar to how he looked in KH3 in his own world and that design change was also ugly as shit. The hair change was awful, the color of the outfit was soulless. Nomura has just lost his fricking mind.
Why does KH3 Sora look like Karen?
>Sora goes from good to kino to bland
>Riku goes from kino to also kino to bland
>Kairi goes from okay to bad to worse
She really is the most cucked character in the entire franchise
Very few party additions an RPG will top the hype of Riku joining your party near the end of KH2.
damn, nomura really dropped the ball with KH3's design
Kairi peaked in 2
He will look exactly the same as in the trailer. The only difference will be the shaders. As in, the difference from Quadratum Sora in KH3 to normal Sora.
And thank God.
>a fantasy based on reality
Nomura is such a fricking hack. FFXV ruined everything.
Nomura had nothing to do with FFXV, that was Tabata's doing.
Nomura designed the world and characters for Versus XIII which would be reused for XV. He came up with the "Fantasy based on reality" bullshit and now injects it into every franchise he can.
The difference is Versus XIII was kino.
XV was shit.
>Pic not related
It's very related. Every npc in FF7R is basically just copy-pasted from FFXV and looks totally out of place. Like they grabbed free asset models off the Unity store.
>Basically so not literally
>has also nothing to do with "He came up with the "Fantasy based on reality" bullshit and now injects it into every franchise he can."
Uhu
FF7R didn't have NPCs that wore real life casual clothing. Nomura made the conscious decision to do that, to connect FF7 to reality just like he did with FFXIII Versus, FFXV, and KH4.
FFXV sucks.
FFVII Remake is the greatest FF in over 20 years.
Get over yourself Barry.
>FF7R didn't have NPCs that wore real life casual clothing.
Are you moronic
>Basically so not literally
Stop splitting hairs.
Words are hard for you to grasp I know
Almost like he likes making it the main aesthetic of the games he works on
>He came up with the "Fantasy based on reality" bullshit and now injects it into every franchise he can.
that's because it's kino
Imagine man. Nomura wanted to make a political commentary IRL issue Final Fantasy. But FF15 fans like 15 because it had none of the cool Nitroplus/Gundam storytelling shit I'M STILL MAD
>FF15 fans
Where
Twitter man
>Nomura wanted to make a political commentary IRL issue Final Fantasy
Is this true?
>Sora's character design just keeps getting worse.
That's because Sora's design is originally anime inspired. When devs transition their cartoony/animeism character designs to photorealism, you get trash because those designs look great in their original artform but that's not the case when it's put into the "real world,"
You get shit like Live Action Lion King, where you get talking realistic lions that are trying to act like their cartoon film counterparts but just lack the animated, vibrant expressions and interesting designs because real life doesn't follow the same rules as cartoons.
KH4 is on Unreal Engine 5. As far as I'm aware (correct me if I'm wrong), they haven't made anything else on that so far. Unless Unreal Engine 4 experience carries over (I guess it does to some extent), it might take a bit.
And nothing of value was lost. Frick Cringedom Sharts. It's a mindless button masher that only gets a free pass because of "le ebin wholesome didneykino"
Let me guess, you actively watch Marvel movies?
KHgays and Marvelgays have significant overlap because they're both related to Disney.
Tellingly, both are shit.
Do KHBlack folk even care about the Disney shit? I thought they're just jerking off to the OC story
There is like one schizo who sucks off Disney while pretending that the OC story doesn't exist, but the rest of them are like you said.
>Overlap
This is the stupidest take ever. Besides the morondit shills who would suck the wiener of a Disney Executive and ask for seconds NO ONE has any hope for a Marvel Hero world or a Star Wars world. Because we know the truth. Execs wouldn't hesitate to whip Nomura like a slave until he pulls a Frozen or worse.
In my experience most fans like both. I've only seen vocal minorities say the series needs to drop one or the other.
I never grew up with Disney so i have no nostalgia for it, i judge it on it's own merits in the game and a lot of the time it's just a lot of padding. But that's not to say it's all bad
>like Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Yen Sid, Maleficent, Pete, basically all those characters when they do cool shit and actually contribute
>Like olympus, toy story, and tron
Tron in KH2 is actually what every disney world should strive to be, it was perfectly written into the story. Olympus and Toy story in Kh3 are also pretty good.
But shit like say Frozen and stuff like atlantica are garbage. Only good moment from Atlantica was when triton tells you to frick off. And Frozen was fun despite being complete filler. I
But they should try more. I guess it's hard since they never know if a particular world will be approved or not, or any micromanaging they'll have to deal with. Even Pixar had some, being that they didn't want to have them just do the movies.
I think Nomura actually said he didn't start working on the actual story till Toy Story got approved. I could be wrong though.
Can't forget Pirates, pretty padding as well but I enjoyed it a lot. God if you think about, the majority of disney worlds in this series would basically constitute side quests in other games considering how the set up every time is
>wonder around disney worlds till shit happens and you got to the plot relevant final level
Value is still here you stupid fricking Black person. There is one thing everyone complaining here has in common; unintelligent sheep using a bunch moronic adjectives and made up words to describe nothing but how they envy the series for shitting on their games and are still pissed Sora got into Smash, a game full of legendary characters. You should do the world a favor and end your shifty life. That'll be true "nothing of value" was lost.
>Smash, a game full of legendary characters.
Good thing Sora isn't one of those legendary characters. Sure he's in, but as a meme so trannies wouldn't kill themselves. Same thing with Banjo.
Yeah yeah troony this troony that. you're obviously fricking seething because you can't even come up with an intelligent response. He was the most popular character and now he's locked in as a legendary character.
But Sora isn't legendary though?
He's a meme. Memes are not real characters. He was added to fill a quota.
He's literally just a generic swordsman in a game that's already full of them, but he gets a free pass simply because he's not from Fire Emblem.
>inb4 HURR HE USES A KEY SO HE'S NOT LE ANIMU SWORDSMAN moron
He isn't a swordsman. He's a simple magic user and shits all over all the fire emblem characters. He is a legend now, like it or not. He's in Smash. You're just in denial.
I accept your concession.
He's not a meme, Kingdom Hearts was the hottest shit on the playground before everyone started playing Halo and WoW.
>Le legendary swordsmen Zelda and fire emblem 1234556789
Why would you be hype for some crusty millenial shit franchise that should've ended ages ago? Every Kingdom Hearts fan as of now is a battered wife with too much sunk cost fallacy investment in Nomura's gobbledyasiatic they think it's 'worth it' seeing this shitshow to the end, but it never does. It just keeps going on and on, because there is demand and S-E wants to capitalize on that.
Will KH4 come to PC?
yes
but EGS exclusive
I feel like most people who hate 3 so much are people who only played it once at launch.
>be in Quadratum
>can't enter a few select buildings because it's another empty open world game
>no Red-Light district because all ages Disney shovelware
>no otaku hotspots in Akihabara because le wholesome family friendly Disney shovelware
>no clothes shops in Shibuya because you can't customize your wardrobe
>no one to befriend because it's not Persona
>etc.
Better play Yakuza or something
>Barry shitting on KH4 because everyone is too busy dunking on Forespoken
>2 buttons to win instead of 1
I'd say that's a marketed improvement.
>KHIV
>HIV
NOMURA!
I want to see Sora beating the shit out of a Heartless variant of Vader
>no news, no hype, nothing
What the frick are you talking about? This place was full with KH threads for weeks after 4 was announced. SE specifically said there will be a news drought since the game is switching to UE5 and it's still earlier in development.
>This place was full with KH threads for weeks after 4 was announced.
more like 3 days you revisionist moron.
>Already moved the goalpost from no hype to it was hype but it doesn't count
I accept your concession.
Everyone took my advice and refused to ask what was in the box. I won.
Also, this series, which is basically a protracted soap opera with hack-n-slash combat attached, went and gave everyone in the series, dead characters included, a happy ending, with the only exception being the main character, who is a non-character. I'm ready to call the series done.
You know some of us like Sora and want him to be okay.
I think that poster is pretending to be a /misc/ poster for some reason. I've yet to hear any pro or anti Sora posts that had anything to do with politics.
There is not a single person who sincerely cares whether or not Sora lives. We have Xion back.
oh shit that's right Xion and Roxas aren't sora's heart-rentoids anymore so I can actively wish for him to be killed off without taking better characters with him
we learned our lesson after 3
>End the Xehanort saga
>End the entirety of the one conflict driving your story and try to make the world itself stand well enough to get to a second saga
>Your world doesn't have solid rules
>Your fans aren't ready for another 20-year KH saga
>You use high-end, mostly-untested software for the new entry.
>Everyone is content with the happy ending
did he get a foojob?
grrrr damn kingdom hearts hebes...! I need rape correction!
imagine getting a footjob from Strelitzia looking all smug and getting a peek up her skirt
Nomura is tired of Sora he just wants to make Versus Verum Rex
3 was terrible. I wouldn't even consider buying 4. They're so invested in their story being in 30 different games on different platforms that it's incomprehensible.
Name one action RPG game with better bosses than Remind. You can't. KH3 shits all over anything you play.
There's more to Kingdom Hearts besides the endgame superbosses you know.
how bad was 3? is it a case of just not as good as 2? or is it actually bad
plotgays hate it because it's a pretty bad story
2gays generally dislike the combat for being broken with ridiculous flashy options that nuke the screen
as a kh1gay, i like it more than 2 for having worlds that are fun to explore, and critical mode restrains some of the dumber combat options
They re implementing the whole avatar quintology have patience
Nomura said to expect nothing that year. Do if anything, we get at least just a small trailer at e3 or tgs
because japanese are now scammers with no honor
All I wanted is a fricking game about FF characters in Disney fantasy, not a cringefest game with a convoluted storyplot that would make Night Shyamalan blush
>people fell for the ole announce a game a month or two after it's green lit trick
Squeenix does this with every game lmao. The sole exception is FFXVI
>Nomura is tired of doing Kingdom Hearts
>But he knows if he leaves it to work on a new series or one off it'll end up mostly abandoned again besides spin offs
>so now KH is just where he dumps his new games with Sora as the permanent protagonist
Frick kingdom hearts
Frick Nomura and his Final Fantasy XV. Seriously the worst game of decade. Nomura should be hanged for crime against vidya.
>not a new IP
>hating Nomura for how XV turned out
Single digit IQ mentality. Honestly baffling how people can be this moronic.
This. The setting worked for Versus, it was supposed to be a game that was the exact opposite of FFXIII. It made sense. Tabata didn't understand what Nomura was trying to do and fricked it up entirely.
Still waiting on XV to get erased from history and Nomura to reveal he's releasing Versus.
As Verum Rex.
Well yeah, can't call it Versus XIII anymore. It could be called Fricknuts XIII for all I care, I just want it to be released and put Tabata's excuse of a game to shame.
Nomura, You are absolutely, undoubtedly, unquestionably, one hundred percent completely *suck*!
More JIZZNEY family-friendly garbage. Bring back the Kino animu vidya madness style and I'll be on board.
There is literally no one on Ganker that likes Nomura unironically . He was voted as the worst dev on Ganker for a reason.
>He was voted as the worst dev on Ganker for a reason.
When was that?
Can't remember. It's near decades ago now. Around 2010-2012 I think.
Probably never but Ganker knows about three developers anyway and they're all nippon
Nah it's actually around the end of 2008. I think it's around Christmas.
I like him unironically. Checkmate!
Isn't this kid supposed to resemble somewhat a Disney character along with the other Square characters being somewhat redesigned to fit in with the look? Why can't Nomura stop making everything look like Versus XIII? Did they just fire everyone who worked on the first 2 PS2 games?
>Why can't Nomura stop making everything look like Versus XIII? Did they just fire everyone who worked on the first 2 PS2 games?
Yes actually, and people actually liked the work of the folks from Tabata's team who replaced them.
>Square characters being somewhat redesigned to fit in with the look
That's sorta a 50/50 because you get some characters who are even more Chuuni like KH1 Cloud an, then there's KH2 Cloud who is just advent children, Sephiroth with seven wings on his coat. Some are like Tidus, Wakka, and Selphie who are kids, the Gullwings, who are fairies, and the Seifer, Raijin, and Fuujin, who are teenagers. They tend to be more "fitting in", but the only one who is completely redesigned to fit in is Zack in BBS, who is a native of greece. Auron is less detailed from his FFX design(like basically every FF character bar cloud) but he's just FFX Auron. And then the TWEWY characters in DDD are just TWEWY characters. It's really a roll of the dice.
Actually, can someone tell me why did Barry hate Nomura so much if XV has nothing to so with Nomura?
Because Nomura is the biggest threat to Tabata style direction. It's more accurate to say he wants everyone to either copy or die for Hajime Tabata and his people.
Kingdom Hearts is dead and the fact they keep making new ones is an insult to and violation of its corpse. KH3 took too long, if it came out at least by 2010 everything would have been fine but they dicked around and made 200 gorillion interim games and made the story go from ridiculous to horrible. Zoomers have no attachment to Kingdom Hearts and can’t understand why 1 and 2 were fun despite being cheesy, and millennials are too old to care anymore.
Missing Link looks like a piece of shit. It might end service in 6 months like those other DoA trash Square Enix gacha.
KHML is guaranteed to perform at least moderately well compared to Squeenix's other terrible Live Service attempts recently because of people playing it for KH story.
You need to get out to play that one whcih filtered like 90% of current Kingdom Hearts fans.
No you don't. Nomura has made it clear that you don't since he hates games that force you to do that shit too.
You don't, though. It gives you bonuses for doing so, but you can move around without the GPS gimmick.
I dunno, it might be fun to play a 3D KH game on mobile even if it has the shitty gacha command deck bs
Also its gonna be important lmaoooo
It will be more popular just because it plays like an actual KH game
I don't know why SE can't make PC/console versions of these games like Genshin.
I want KH to be good again, but know its just going to be hyper autistic incomprehensible shit
the plot is incomprehensible, to big with to much shit, boring, uninteresting, has no heart
>how to instantly make normalgays pre order the game in the millions
I just want one more trailer and then i'm out since they spoil the entire game every time, also i don't know what the frick OP is talking about, people were hyped as frick when it came out
same, I'm not even sure if I want to see BotW2's next trailer, japs love spoiling everything
True. Did the same with every SE project I played after and had a great time especially Neo Twewy and FF7R
I was a complete fool for watching every single KH3 trailer. Admittedly there wasn't a whole lot of plot (cuz disney) but I basically saw 95% of what there was. not gonna repeat that mistake.
>NEO and 7R
Do they feel like Tokyo Team games? I keep hearing they have similar 'feel'
Sure but I'd say the same about KH3 Remind.
Really? Damn what do those three games have in common with KH2FM apart from broad strokes Nomura action RPG
The best bosses in the business
Satisfying and fluid combat
The things people know Tokyo Team for.
I feel like 7R falls a bit short because of how janky and shit the air combat is.
Yeah but the game has not a lot of air combat scenarios. It's mostly just there in case you run out of magic to defeat air foes.
I want Rebirth to have jumping, Active Mode, and not to sound like Stellagay but Gambits
Are you ready for the inside out world?
I feels like i see a thread about how kh is forgotten every 2 days
KH unironically gets more threads talking about how forgotten it is than mainstream games on Ganker
It takes 10-15 years max for nomura to make a game, that is if it doesn't get cancelled. No reason to care about this right now.
Nobody over 18 should get excited for kingdom sharts
At this point, i won't be surprised if they announce KH1 remake to set up more bullshit with MUH ALTERNATE TIMELINE
Like KH3, FFVII Remake, FFVSXIII, it was announced too soon. This always happens with Nomura projects, and he always gets mad about Square announcing shit way too soon when they still have a lot more to work on.