Is everyone in BB a complete pussy? how do they let themselves get pushed around by some scrawny baby-faced hick? Even Poppy could kick this wimp’s ass. If he pulled that crap in another region. his tight virgin bussy would be torn apart.
I think getting berated by a cute chuuni shota secretly turned them on or something. There is no other logical explanation why they'd just let him do it other than "they enjoyed it"
>expert belt >sitrus berry >focus sash on a tanky screen setter
...all things considered i think i liked it better when game freak didn't try to give them items
It shouldn't have been done, what about the other 2 evos who are now completely outcasssed?
It's like it they give Hitmonlee an evo while the other two stay the same. It's not fair
Did you? Epilogue Kieran acts very differently from TM Kieren. He's gained tons of confidence. TM Kieran is extremely timid, he can barely talk to strangers. He's nothing like that in the epilogue.
Did you? He still has serious moments when shit hits the fan, and in his rematch he still does his broken soul pose when he Teras. He just got over his chuuni phase
Fricking how. He spends the entirety of MM whining and being a spineless little homosexual to the point where he starts stuttering again AND absolutely refuses to even go near Nemona because he's that mindbroken.
Replay the fricking epilogue. Also pay attention to his eyes. Also to the part where you two get eachother backs in the climax against Pecharunt's zombies.
> Also to the part where you two get eachother backs in the climax against Pecharunt's zombies.
Ah yes so nice of Kieran to stand there doing frickall while we alone deal with the champion level trainer and the mythical. Truly indispensable help against a bunch of drones with no Pokemon since we already beat them, what the frick are they gonna do? Aggressively chicken dance at him?
He doesn't whine at all. He's worried about his sister because she's been acting like a moronic zombie for days. Considering the circumstances, he's keeping his cool.
Then he has a schizo moment after he watched his grandparents getting possessed, because obviously the part of him that fears being powerless is not gone. But it's not like he's whiny about it, it's more like a desperate resignation that the MC has to snap him out of.
And he doesn't go near Nemona because she beat his ass like 2 minutes after they met.
TM Kieran and epilogue Kieran are barely comparable. TM Kiki hid behind Carmine and could barely introduce himself. He also kept saying how he doesn't want to be a bother, stuff like that. He obviously thought very little of himself, which is his core problem and the reason why he became an edgy chuuni in ID in the first place. He had a severe lack of self-worth, which he blamed on his lack of power, and artificially inflated his ego in an attempt to gain it, then realized that self-worth is not equal to power.
Epilogue Kiki was also not seething after he lost to Nemona, which other iterations of Kieran would've definitely done.
>a schizo moment [...] that the MC has to snap him out of
So you do agree he has effectively no agency and you have to actively tardwrangle him just so he does things. Mind you he absolutely would have gotten possessed and didn't by some stroke of luck, because he was also standing there gaping like a moron just like Penny and Arven, rather than being on guard and ready for the situation like the MC. >doesn't go near Nemona, not seething
Precisely my point about regression, not only is he powerless about losing, just like in pre mindbreak teal mask, he outright becomes submissive and refuses to try again and help you out even in desperate situations just because she already beat him once.
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Anonymous
He was watching his whole family getting taken over by some mysterious force, of course he would have a moment of despair.
Also the whole finale of ID was about him letting go of the idea that he has to do everything himself and that accepting help is not a sign of weakness. That's literally the conclusion of his character arc which gets reinforced again in the epilogue.
It seems like you just expected something else from his character and are disappointed that it didn't go that way. What would you deem a satisfying conclusion for him then?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>doing frickall
He literally fights the entire town at once. You know, the town (and your friends) with pokemon in their 70s that made you team up with Kieran just when you encountered two of them, just this time he does it alone and against all of them.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Learn to read moron, they have no Pokemon because you defeated them already, how the frick are they still a threat after that? You think Pecharunt made them stop by the Pokemon Center beforehand? I bet he didn't because he's essentially a moronic naive spoiled petulant child with zero foresight and MM is him throwing one big tantrum. You can only make a point for Carmine, and we know Kieran is vastly superior in skill by ID and beats her soundly whenever they battle.
He was watching his whole family getting taken over by some mysterious force, of course he would have a moment of despair.
Also the whole finale of ID was about him letting go of the idea that he has to do everything himself and that accepting help is not a sign of weakness. That's literally the conclusion of his character arc which gets reinforced again in the epilogue.
It seems like you just expected something else from his character and are disappointed that it didn't go that way. What would you deem a satisfying conclusion for him then?
>It seems like you just expected something else from his character and are disappointed that it didn't go that way. What would you deem a satisfying conclusion for him then? Well Anon you got me. I don't particularly care about Kieran nor do I have an issue with the epilogue itself, for all that matters it ironically offers more meaningful character development and interactions than the absolute fart that was the final Underdepths expedition. I just like to argue.
To answer your question. >watching his whole family getting taken over by some mysterious force, of course he would have a moment of despair
Or you can make it the opposite. Make this the moment where he snaps out of it and goes frick you, it's personal now. Hell, take it one step further and make Kieran realise that not only did Pecharunt turn his entire family into mochi mochi autists, he's also behind the Loyal Three and directly responsible for running his beloved Ogre's life and making Kitakami worship a band of thieves. That gives Kieran a lot more agency and imo works better than yet another moment of weakness. Same with Nemona, sure him losing and not sperging out is good development, but the way he acts almost scared is not the way to go. Sure you can hit the middle ground with this.
That or I just leave the Epilogue exactly as it is but replace Kieran with Carmine because her seething is objectively funnier.
He doesn't whine at all. He's worried about his sister because she's been acting like a moronic zombie for days. Considering the circumstances, he's keeping his cool.
Then he has a schizo moment after he watched his grandparents getting possessed, because obviously the part of him that fears being powerless is not gone. But it's not like he's whiny about it, it's more like a desperate resignation that the MC has to snap him out of.
And he doesn't go near Nemona because she beat his ass like 2 minutes after they met.
TM Kieran and epilogue Kieran are barely comparable. TM Kiki hid behind Carmine and could barely introduce himself. He also kept saying how he doesn't want to be a bother, stuff like that. He obviously thought very little of himself, which is his core problem and the reason why he became an edgy chuuni in ID in the first place. He had a severe lack of self-worth, which he blamed on his lack of power, and artificially inflated his ego in an attempt to gain it, then realized that self-worth is not equal to power.
Epilogue Kiki was also not seething after he lost to Nemona, which other iterations of Kieran would've definitely done.
Did you? He still has serious moments when shit hits the fan, and in his rematch he still does his broken soul pose when he Teras. He just got over his chuuni phase
Lol, lmao
Kieran has quadruple the art that Carmine has
She doesn't even do anything significant other than being partially responsible for Kieran's schizo arc
Art isn't a good metric to tell how popular a character is, like, they could be 10 guys drawing a girl with 15 images in total and there's one obsessed with another who already is at 3 digits with her.
No she isn't.
You got cucked by the goat, huh?
original hairstyle better
Is everyone in BB a complete pussy? how do they let themselves get pushed around by some scrawny baby-faced hick? Even Poppy could kick this wimp’s ass. If he pulled that crap in another region. his tight virgin bussy would be torn apart.
Unova is a cuck culture region, anon. What did you expect?
>Whiny Asian boy goes to American school and has them sucking his dick
really makes you think
I think getting berated by a cute chuuni shota secretly turned them on or something. There is no other logical explanation why they'd just let him do it other than "they enjoyed it"
>Even Poppy could kick this wimp’s ass
lol no
>dies to Fairy
Honestly tera is pretty shit gimmick for npc battles
>Wolfey actually started losing to him so hard that he had to resort to Perish trapping him
Not funny
git gud wolfey
>expert belt
>sitrus berry
>focus sash on a tanky screen setter
...all things considered i think i liked it better when game freak didn't try to give them items
He needs to ditch that shitty haircut already.
Me when I lie
Wow SV really are dogshit huh?
Cute incel
Best rival ever and I'm not joking
You' would be correct if it wasn't for Florian
>Worst protag
>Best anything
>samegayging
both shit
Yes
FOTW DLC and character
kiki is a girl's name
is he trans?
No, his name is Kieran, his sister calls him Kiki.
No.
No, he's just too much of a pussy to get a boy name so he gets a girl one.
Kiki needs to have his little wienerlet locked up while watching his bullies breed all of the girls he cares about
but the girls he cares about are his bullies
Cute boys
Kieran is for Amarys
Amarys is too autistic for romance.
That's an extremely low bar
The horniest thing to come out of SV
I agree, Hydrapple is pretty cool.
It shouldn't have been done, what about the other 2 evos who are now completely outcasssed?
It's like it they give Hitmonlee an evo while the other two stay the same. It's not fair
yeah bro charizard completely outclasses charmander its not fair bros wah wah
cry me a river b***hboy
that's not a split evolution, moron.
waaah waaaah its not the sameeeeeee
>out of SV
Come on now. I honestly think it's fair to say he's the best thing to come out of Pokemon as a whole.
I'm glad he didn't stop being edgy just because you beat him again.
He absolutely stops being edgy and reverts back to basic beta b***h boy what are you talking about. Did you even play the Epilogue?
Did you? Epilogue Kieran acts very differently from TM Kieren. He's gained tons of confidence. TM Kieran is extremely timid, he can barely talk to strangers. He's nothing like that in the epilogue.
Fricking how. He spends the entirety of MM whining and being a spineless little homosexual to the point where he starts stuttering again AND absolutely refuses to even go near Nemona because he's that mindbroken.
Replay the fricking epilogue. Also pay attention to his eyes. Also to the part where you two get eachother backs in the climax against Pecharunt's zombies.
> Also to the part where you two get eachother backs in the climax against Pecharunt's zombies.
Ah yes so nice of Kieran to stand there doing frickall while we alone deal with the champion level trainer and the mythical. Truly indispensable help against a bunch of drones with no Pokemon since we already beat them, what the frick are they gonna do? Aggressively chicken dance at him?
>a schizo moment [...] that the MC has to snap him out of
So you do agree he has effectively no agency and you have to actively tardwrangle him just so he does things. Mind you he absolutely would have gotten possessed and didn't by some stroke of luck, because he was also standing there gaping like a moron just like Penny and Arven, rather than being on guard and ready for the situation like the MC.
>doesn't go near Nemona, not seething
Precisely my point about regression, not only is he powerless about losing, just like in pre mindbreak teal mask, he outright becomes submissive and refuses to try again and help you out even in desperate situations just because she already beat him once.
He was watching his whole family getting taken over by some mysterious force, of course he would have a moment of despair.
Also the whole finale of ID was about him letting go of the idea that he has to do everything himself and that accepting help is not a sign of weakness. That's literally the conclusion of his character arc which gets reinforced again in the epilogue.
It seems like you just expected something else from his character and are disappointed that it didn't go that way. What would you deem a satisfying conclusion for him then?
>doing frickall
He literally fights the entire town at once. You know, the town (and your friends) with pokemon in their 70s that made you team up with Kieran just when you encountered two of them, just this time he does it alone and against all of them.
Learn to read moron, they have no Pokemon because you defeated them already, how the frick are they still a threat after that? You think Pecharunt made them stop by the Pokemon Center beforehand? I bet he didn't because he's essentially a moronic naive spoiled petulant child with zero foresight and MM is him throwing one big tantrum. You can only make a point for Carmine, and we know Kieran is vastly superior in skill by ID and beats her soundly whenever they battle.
>It seems like you just expected something else from his character and are disappointed that it didn't go that way. What would you deem a satisfying conclusion for him then?
Well Anon you got me. I don't particularly care about Kieran nor do I have an issue with the epilogue itself, for all that matters it ironically offers more meaningful character development and interactions than the absolute fart that was the final Underdepths expedition. I just like to argue.
To answer your question.
>watching his whole family getting taken over by some mysterious force, of course he would have a moment of despair
Or you can make it the opposite. Make this the moment where he snaps out of it and goes frick you, it's personal now. Hell, take it one step further and make Kieran realise that not only did Pecharunt turn his entire family into mochi mochi autists, he's also behind the Loyal Three and directly responsible for running his beloved Ogre's life and making Kitakami worship a band of thieves. That gives Kieran a lot more agency and imo works better than yet another moment of weakness. Same with Nemona, sure him losing and not sperging out is good development, but the way he acts almost scared is not the way to go. Sure you can hit the middle ground with this.
That or I just leave the Epilogue exactly as it is but replace Kieran with Carmine because her seething is objectively funnier.
He doesn't whine at all. He's worried about his sister because she's been acting like a moronic zombie for days. Considering the circumstances, he's keeping his cool.
Then he has a schizo moment after he watched his grandparents getting possessed, because obviously the part of him that fears being powerless is not gone. But it's not like he's whiny about it, it's more like a desperate resignation that the MC has to snap him out of.
And he doesn't go near Nemona because she beat his ass like 2 minutes after they met.
TM Kieran and epilogue Kieran are barely comparable. TM Kiki hid behind Carmine and could barely introduce himself. He also kept saying how he doesn't want to be a bother, stuff like that. He obviously thought very little of himself, which is his core problem and the reason why he became an edgy chuuni in ID in the first place. He had a severe lack of self-worth, which he blamed on his lack of power, and artificially inflated his ego in an attempt to gain it, then realized that self-worth is not equal to power.
Epilogue Kiki was also not seething after he lost to Nemona, which other iterations of Kieran would've definitely done.
Did you? He still has serious moments when shit hits the fan, and in his rematch he still does his broken soul pose when he Teras. He just got over his chuuni phase
Kiki the stongest trainer
Carmine is a more popular character and will appear in the next gen games
Lol, lmao
Kieran has quadruple the art that Carmine has
She doesn't even do anything significant other than being partially responsible for Kieran's schizo arc
Art isn't a good metric to tell how popular a character is, like, they could be 10 guys drawing a girl with 15 images in total and there's one obsessed with another who already is at 3 digits with her.
doubt.jpg
says a lot about this shitty gen and the gay morons that endorse it