>Kill Isobel because she has practically mounted Jaheira and began bludgeoning her to death with a large rock
>Jaheira: Why the frick did you kill my friend? It looks like we're on opposite sides of this fight *leaves the party*
Lol. This is Ganker's candidate for GOTY? My wife's 8-year-old could write characters whose actions make more sense than this.
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>she has practically mounted Jaheira and began bludgeoning her to death with a large rock
what?
Welcome to Ganker shitpost threads in 2023. Where self-hating commies invent random shit about games they never played.
I never played this shit but I'm guessing Isobel and Jaheira were fighting. The former was on top of the latter, and using a large rock as a weapon. Seeing this, your character kills Isobel.
The issue is that such a situation never happens in the game.
Wrong.
Right but I have played this shit so I know this doesn't happen. Hard to come off as smug and "better then you anon" when you are just ignorant.
the only reason anyone ever needs to kill isobel is that she is a dike and and a ressurected abomination
Isobel was hostile on Ketheric's side during the Ketheric/avatar of Myrkul fight. The only choice is to kill her or let yourself game over (knocking her out makes Jaheira leave as well).
Does Isobel even participates in this battle? In my game I faced Ketheric alone on both occasions.
if you let her get captured at LL then yeah she's part of it.
Ohh, didn't know that. To be honest, Jaheira is bugged from head to toe. In my game she died in the Last Light Inn attack and absolutely no one was considering her dead.
You have to make extremely evil choices to get isobel to side with ketheric. Being a bad guy has consequences apparently.
No if she gets captured she is instantly worm’d by her father.
Yeah how does she get captured moron
By playing the game blind. Ever heard of it?
He means you lost the very winnable fight.
>You have to make extremely evil choices to get isobel to side with ketheric
Wrong. He's saying the only way for this to happen if is you're evil, and she never "sides" with him. She gets kidnapped and mind controlled. Plus, going in blind is going to have most people lose that encounter because Isobel is moronic. that whole fight at the in was designed to have the player character lose despite also being able to win..
I mean it's very winnable in hindsight but going in blind you don't know that if Isa goes down means automatic cutscene you lose everything.
Can't you just reload your save? The fight is super quick anyway.
I'm not a save scumming Black person and when I saw that losing the fight didn't mean I lost the game, I just ate it and continued. Plus I got more EXP by having to kill every zombified person that was there.
>I'm not a save scumming Black person
Worse, you're a dork who failed to achieve a super simple objective.
>brings up save scumming
>h-haha...well you lost and i won (after 5 attempts)!
Cast Sanctuary next time, dummy. It is a really easy fight.
I don't really think that's the point people are talking about, and this is all situation because, as someone else mentioned, that fight is dictated by nothing other than your rolls. If the winged horrors and Marcus get batter initiative rolls than your party, they will instantly kill Isobel.
>neglecting the only fricking stat that matters in 5e
it's your own fault, honestly.
I think I had at least one party member with an item that gives adv on initiative I got in act 1(Lae'zel)
her, my monk, and astarion go first every single battle.
>played monk
You cheated not only the game, but yourself. You didn't grow. You didn't improve. You took a shortcut and gained nothing. You experienced a hollow victory. Nothing was risked and nothing was gained. It's sad that you don't know the difference.
Monks are S tier, youre right.
I deserve it for playing monk in DnD for fricking years and everyone calling it shit this whole time
I didn't even abuse the busted change to tavern brawler I just flurried guys and won not my fault everyone's been sleeping on this class.
>that fight is dictated by nothing other than your rolls
The thing is, at that point, unless you've played as crappy as possible, you shouldn't be relying purely on RNG. The fight is not scripted so that the enemies start with the initiative, so it's your fault for not doing the basics to deal with "surprise" attacks (which are common in the game, especially in Shadowlands).
>build your party specifically to counter the elements of the surprise encounter
Read above, my melanin enhanced friend.
>so it's your fault for not doing the basics to deal with "surprise" attacks (which are common in the game, especially in Shadowlands).
This is only true if you specifically interact with the two cursed corpses that spawn enemies. No other part there was a surprise ambush in my run, not mechanically anyway. And as far as act 1 is concerned the only one I bumped into was the Spectator.
They aren't common at all, really. I my whole playthrough I think I only dealt with no more than 5 or 6 of them.
Magma mephits
The attack in Last Light is only a surprise from the point of view of the player not expecting a fight. Your characters themselves are not surprised. There's a lot of ambushes in Act 2 from the shadows, then some in Act 1 from goblins and the Bullet.
>just reload your save, build your party specifically to counter the elements of the surprise encounter, and try again until you win
Frick off scumBlack person.
There are ways in the battle to keep her protected, you don't need to save scum. One way is throwing her in a room with one entry, close the door, then stand in the doorway. Now baddies have to go through you to get to her, and She can't get through you to go out and fight.
Really, with the conversation that leads to the fight the only reason for anyone to not know Marcus is there to grab Isobel is if people just mashed skip.
>t. complete loser in real life, can only feel like a "winner" by getting nice words in his fantasy rpgs
I don't even know what's your post supposed to mean, or why you're seething so much about it.
Like I said going in blind. You absolutely could do this but I find this mindset to be less fun.
If a game genuinely manages to surprise me I don't want to undermine that by just going lol nope.
I just miss getting to say this isn't a Witcher thread.
I went in blind and had no idea they could even take Isobel
I killed Markus in one turn and all those other fricks were weak too
My main problem is Jaheira has shitty AI. Storming moonrise she cast ice storm and YOLO'd right in the middle between 12 enemies and there was nothing I could do to save her, then you can't even revivify her.
Fair enough anon, didn't play out that way for me.
But more importantly yeah npc AI is pants on head moronic and the moonrise assault would've gone much much cleaner if my "allies" didn't participate.
yeah on that note there was ice fricking everywhere I had to jump over to get to the casters in the back
then all the other guys were ranged and didn't do shit or take any aggro
Yeah if you walk in there with a not already almost dead party.
Anon, even playing the game blind the conflict starts with Marcus flying in and saying he's there to kidnap Isobel.
And you can tell him to frick off then a fight starts, which if you happen to lose she gets kidnapped. you don't need to be evil for this to occur.
I'm not disputing that. I'm saying that playing without prior knowledge doesn't change that the game actually states the failure condition to you for this encounter, so "playing blind" has frick all to do with how she gets captured.
>You have to make extremely evil choices to get isobel to side with ketheric
I'm pretty sure this was the point people were arguing about.
Not in regards to
.
That's not you playing the game blind, that's you getting dabbed on by dice.
You're talking to multiple anons and conflating them as one. Ganker isn't one person.
No, I'm just arguing specifically against that one anon's point. You're the one that misconstrued my post as though I was debating the guy who said you need to be evil for isobel to be with Ketheric. I'm not even gonna bother touching that argument.
>that's not you playing the game blind blah blah blah
Imbecile
It isn't. You're saying you getting shitty dice rolls and not loading saves leading you to failing is "playing blind". If I were to do the same but had favorable dice rolls instead, that would also still be "playing blind".
Yeah, fricktard, you are conflating two anons. How many times do you need to be told? Fricktarded imbecile.
>anon is completely dumbfounded that other people don't completely savescum to get the outcome they want every time
Marcus and his ghouls had high rolls. My party had bad rolls. This is how the story went and I didn't savescum my rpg, I just let the story progress. You dense butthole-thumbing moron.
She can get captured without you being evil, moron.
That didn't happen to me, I just killed her.
That's literally one of the "only options you have" that anon just said.
I killed her and Jaheira was still in my party.
Was Jaheira one of your fighters or was she staying in camp?
wat?
i let her live and she helped in the fight, not hostile at all
Could be my game is bugged then. I reloaded my save and tested it explicitly. As soon as Isobel went down (lethal or non-lethal), Jaheira's approval went from upper middle to 0 instantly.
well, weren't you then one who let her get taken? Still kinda moronic
"Let" is a strong word. Jaheira "let" her get kidnapped just as much as I did, I just happened to be there. It's not like I was helping Markus.
She can get taken if you never talk to her and long rest enough times after finding the Inn.
>Get in fight with friend
>We throw fists
>anon comes in and kills my friend
>Get pissed off at anon and mourn my friend
>"Hurr why are you mad at me?"
yes
>Kill Isobel because she's a huge fricking moron that speedruns past 50 fricking ghouls with like +1 con save
>lol jk she's just unconcious let me kidnap her real quick DURING COMBAT WHERE I COULDN'T FRICK OFF WITH HER WITHOUT CAUSING AN AOO BY THIRTY FRICKING Black folk
DM fiat bullshit. I hate this DM so much.
Wut
Imagine not having misty step on all your characters lmaooo
I just banished her for the fight.
When Marcus comes to LL with his feathery wings you lose the fight if Isobel gets taken.
What are you guys talking about?
Bro, your sanctuary?
Why didn't you kill the c**t the second she tried entangling you?
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Baldur's Kino 3
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>kill Jaheira first
Simple as. You don’t even have to kill her. She’s pretty good at doing it herself.
>enter moonrise through side entrance
>go to the main atrium from there
>Jaheira is bumrushing a CR7 encounter completely solo as a level 5 druid
What the frick were Larian directors thinking?
Holy shit i hate this dopey b***h.
My Murder Hobo rocks up and she immediatly attacks my Storm Sorc with some overgrown weeds, tell her to back off and she tard rages at me with flaming hands so i double blast her with fireball and end up killing the entire tavern after they agro AND I AM THE BAD GUY HERE????!
Sit down you aren't that powerful.
They really needed to account for players not letting NPCs disrespect them. An entire tavern of NPCs uninvolved in the conflict at the entrance who are also way weaker than the b***h who got obliterated shouldn't be trying to fight you especially with the tactical bottleneck of the bridge.
I just lobbed fireballs at them then sent my Melee to mop up what was left, no idea what the Devs were thinking about when it came to this encounter.
>hurr durr wahmen strong
I guess
>no idea what the Devs were thinking
"My writing 101 class said it's good to introduce every ally as hostile so the player can feel they won their approval" or some bullshit like that.
It's just grating, I'm the protagonist of a fantasy RPG, I'm not gonna take shit from some fricking NPC I can put out with a flick of a finger.
The hypocrisy of this post is hilarious.
>The Hypocr-ACK
Shut the frick up Jaheira
lol during the initial encounter as a Sorcerer you can say that you are pure magic and you will annihilate her so stand the frick down and she just scoffs at you then, surprise, get's global'd in a single turn and burns to death.
Just terrible writing by the person involved.
uh oh, looks like another moron has main character syndrome
I always enjoy that kind of crazy in games myself. You killed a guard and suddenly all the civilians rally around avenging him because they loved him that much. I mean, don't you want to live in a world where everyone had your back no matter the threat?
>Kill the lesbian angel's girlfriend
>angel is only temporarily hostile
lol
She's not an angel though.
no one cares, she has a light aura and white feathery wings
she's an angel
>inb4 Diogenes meme
That's like saying a halfling's a human because they have two legs and two arms.
An angel is a special servant of god, usually depicted with a sword and white wings
she fits the definition of an angel perfectly
she is an angel
That god doesn't exist in DnD.
Check and mate.
don't care, she's an angel
Except she isn't. She's as much an angel as a a cosplayer in real life with cosplay wings and some LEDs to light them up.
Besides, that's not even what an angel looks like.
Throughout history angels were depicted as beautiful winged beings, sometimes armed with spears, swords and such. The only reason you even know how they're literally described in texts is because of a youtube video/meme.
She is quite literally an angel. She's never described as one but she checks all boxes except being male, but this is a progressive game so you know how it goes.
>Throughout history angels were depicted as beautiful winged beings, sometimes armed with spears, swords and such
Nah, that's westoid cope.
literally just type angel painting in google bro
or just walk to your local church, they're bound to have a few depictions like that painted on the walls
You mean the paintings drawn by artists and buildings of people in the western world? Christianity, and the religion it derived from which makes up a lot of the Old Testament, isn't from the western world, so it's assuming these images drawn by those morons hold any weight is fricking dumb.
Besides, the very first western illustrations of angels didn't even have wings you uneducated knob.
https://www.historytoday.com/archive/history-matters/how-angels-found-their-wings
They do hold weight because they're hundreds of years old and have been looked at by millions is not billions of people throughout those years and have buried themselves is people's minds. This is what people think of when they picture an angel in their heads. Ask anyone how an angel looks and they'll describe a handsome white dude with wings. Literally nobody cares that they might have looked differently before the renaissance.
Your post literally boils down to "I headcanon it so it must be true".
I mean, it is true.
Except it aint. She doesn't even serve god.
Most people would describe her as an angel, I don't know what to tell you bro. She has a big sword, uses radiant spells, has white wings, cuts through darkness as she flies and is immortal. She's an angel.
That's because most people don't play DnD so they wouldn't know she's not an angel, same way they wouldn't know the difference between a halfling and a gnome or a devil and a demon or an ogre and a giant.
says they're "a special servant of god", literally his words. Nightsong doesn't serve god at all.
If you wanna get technical, then if she does not have roots in Judaism or Christianity then she is not an angel.
she's an aasimar which is a distinctly different creature from other celestials.
Angels are born directly from the essence of their gods.
Aasimar are mortals, they don't necessarily need to have descended from a union of angel and mortal they could just be born that way from being chosen by their god, like how the Dragonborn in Skyrim is just a normal mortal who Akatosh gave a dragon soul.
However this b***h is special since she's the actual child of a goddess, but that's exactly what makes her different than an angel. some gigachad god fricker like how Gale fricks Mystra knocked her up, rather than an angel just being created
Earth exists in in DnD so by extension Christianity also exists.
Well it does now.
>kill everyone
>Solo party
It's gaming time
>playing wokeslop
>surprised he gets exactly that
lmao
It's also very obvious that outside the sleazy sex there is very little substance to the game. It's unfinished for a start, right down to entire areas promised in Baldur's Gate itself have been cut. After about Act 2, this game falls apart badly. LGBT activism and Chinese botting can only act as band aid for so long. Because here's the rub: the game is really boring. But you have to be able to fight LGBT activists online if you as a public person you are willing to admit it. They will get their goty and will not care who gets cancelled along the way.
You forgot your screenshot, pajeet.
He's been bullied into four different versions of it and then just gave up on it. The face of a beaten man.
It's funny how he's at least accepted that it's the game of the year and is going through the depression stage.
Thank you for reminding me sir!
Why is a 150 year old druid only level 5 when I know for a fact that b***h was higher in BG2
I would like to thank you all for beta-testing my game further. I can't wait to get a nice discount for when it wins GOTY.
I would also like to say if you savescum in a rpg you are a homosexual.
>baldurs gate 2 level cap is at least 30
>b***h is level 5 in this game
huh
She's very old and weak, which is explained in act 3 when you go to her secret hideout. Even has items from bg2 in it, pretty soulful.
that said, BG3 does suffer from everyone being 5 levels too low
you should have started at lv 5, then all the various backstories would have made sense
level 1 is for people going on their first adventure, not for established people
Going by the everyone is 5 levels higher rule, by the time she joins your team she's about level 13, which makes sense for old and rusty Jaheira
That's fair, but I'm willing to have level crunch for gameplay reasons.
sure but like, you're not telling me the best course of action for Shar is to send out a literal god damn level 1 cleric out for the artifact
or nothing about Lae'zel being level 1 makes any damn sense, no such thing as level 1 gith being allowed to even step foot on the planet
The inhumane level of training they undergo in the cloister, Shadowheart should have a few fighter levels lol.
Firstly, level 1 in dnd is not weak. A level 1 adventurer is significantly more capable than the average human, like someone with 18 strength is a world class athlete of unnatural ability regardless of level, and to have a level in a class is to be someone who is knowledgable or strong enough to deal with minor threats which are still well beyond the capability of an average human. For example, you, in real life, would stand little chance against a pack of goblins, but a level adventurer could easily solo them. Secondly, Shadowheart had her memory wiped, Gale was stripped of his powers, Durge literally had his head split open, Astarion was just freed from 500 years of being a gay prostitute, etc, so its not like you're traveling with a bunch of pros.
Is this inappropriate? Maybe. So much so that it is a problem? Definitely not.
level 1 pc are fully trained and coming into their skills. They're journeyman or adept tier at worst.
there's nothing mundane about being a cleric, a cleric is an exceptional person above normal clergy(which do exist). They are performing literal miracles. IRL we would call these people saints a level 1 saint is gonna be an extraordinary person.
RAW a seasoned guard would have a 13 on their highest stat and 11 hit points but they're technically "level 2" and a level 1 fighter is stronger and every level 1 PC starts with at least a 15 or more often better once the racials are added.
The scale of adventure sub-5 PCs are taking on isn't shit they're sending normal guys on. 4 level 3 PCs can wipe out a whole goblin horde or an orc tribe with Ogres no group of 4 normal soldiers is doing that shit.
and honestly even despite that I think the argument that the tadpole affected their levels is pretty reasonable, hell Wyll even tells you outright he's been nerfed so there's precedent to uphold that argument.
>be durge
>kill isobel at the inn just as the raid on moonrise starts
>jaheira and aasimar b***h are none the wiser
🙂
This works? I forgot she is just left alone there jacking off by herself for a while.
I assume if she leaves the ward will go down so doesn't seem like there's much choice
You have to pass a charisma check to convince Jaheira you had nothing to do with it or the traitor in the camp, if you succeed she just stupidly believes you and joins your party.
And then she just kinda exists in your camp up to the point where you become Daddy's favorite again and then she finally snaps to her senses and tries to kill you. The evil durge path is so fricking shit it's hilarious, they really intended you to fight the urge the entire time and be virtuous.
>didn’t save isobel during the beginning of act 2
Durge is a good boy
He tries to resist the seductive whispers of Bhaal in his head to murder everyone bath in their blood look at her she is weak and only exists to serve as fuel for your ascension murderdeathkill murderdeathkill
>people are actually arguing over the inn and whether or not you're expected to lose
Isobel starts with 8 hp for fricks sake, you're obviously expected to lose the encounter even if it's winnable, and you're all looking at this through the eyes of people with experience in D&D, not newbies who never heard of it or even knew it's related to BG before.
Dude what, that fight is easy.
A new player who knows nothing about D&D is not going to think this because they won't know shit about how to properly build initiative, in which case they just immediately lose the fight for obvious reasons. And since losing the fight isn't a game over, the devs clearly expected this to happen. Most people playing this game know nothing about D&D, I hope you're aware of this.
>they won't know shit about how to properly build initiative
you dont need to do that
>you dont need to do that
If you don't get the feats for initiative then you will most likely lose because of stuff pointed out in
.
No initiative = enemies act first. When they act first, she dies.
Nice job ignoring the part about initiative, not comprehending that you need to protect her. That isn't what anyone is talking about.
Majority of players including myself didn't build for initiative and she was just fine. Ur shit at vidya.
>A new player who knows nothing about D&D isn't going to know that one guy saying "I'm here to kidnap you Isobel ooooo spoopy" means you should probably protect Isobel
>A new player who knows nothing about D&D is not going to think this because they won't know shit about how to properly build initiative
This was my literal first game of this type and I understood the mechanics from the first encounters. You literally see a die being rolled when combat starts, so it's easy to grasp the concept from that. In the worst case, you have at least a few dozen hours of your time in Act 1 as experience, so you should already be aware of this. Do people just not read?
>if you point out how newbies might not get this, that means you also don't get it
You shouldn't be telling anyone else they're illiterate when you're this incapable of reading. This is the same game where people b***h about all their attacks missing because they don't understand saving rolls or advantage, that doesn't mean I had the same problem.
So you accept that the only people who are incapable of understanding the bg3's mechanics after 30~40 hours of gameplay are morons incapable of studying the slightest bit about what they are playing? Good.
>still can't read
Again, you shouldn't call anyone else an illiterate Black person.
I accept your concession, Black person.
>A new player who knows nothing about D&D is not going to think this because they won't know shit
>Most people playing this game know nothing about D&D, I hope you're aware of this.
I don't get it
do people on Ganker actually think gatekeeping is a bad thing, now?
I dm PF and 5e and I've rolled this whole game. every change and homebrew item Larian has made has made the system even easier. People like me deserve to excel and losers who watch critical role or just bought the game because youtubers hyped it deserve to be dissatisfied with their inadequacies and their consequences.
to anyone with a brain it's easy enough to just kill these homosexuals before they take her
>do people on Ganker actually think gatekeeping is a bad thing, now?
No one said that. You people need to stop jumping to stupid conclusions and just learn how to read what people are actually telling you.
No, everyone understood what you wrote, it's just that what you wrote is stupid and has no value at all.
>normalgays might lose this encounter because x reasons
>Wtf that makes no sense???
I think you're the stupid one here.
Yes, it doesn't make sense that after 40 HOURS of gameplay you won't be able to understand the BASIC combat mechanics. And if you somehow insist that this level of MENTAL moronATION is justified, at least have the decency to accept that it IS mental moronation and that they shouldn't be crying, rather than trying to paint this as valid ignorance. It's not rocket science.
You keep trying to act like I don't understand the games core mechanics when I specifically referenced them and how they function. You clearly aren't even aware of the kind of people that play this game and it doesn't even seem like you're capable of reading English because you keep jumping to idiotic ESL tier conclusions.
>but that's moronic??? how do you reach that point and not understand the basic mechanics? First off, no one is talking about not understanding the games core mechanics. This entire discussion focuse don an entirely different concept. You just jumped to something completely unrelated then kept trying to argue about it. Second, read Black person. Most people playing this game are idiots and most of them didn't even reach act 2. If you weren't an ESL you would have seen this part already but apparently you're too stupid to have seen it.
You can completely understand what initiative is without specifically needing to build towards it because the game is piss easy as it is. You can do nothing but pump all your feats into ASI and never have any problems outside of situational (a post mentioned this earlier, if you knew how to read you would have seen that) moments where an enemy managing to get better initiative rolls means they might frick you over faster regardless of whether or not you know what you're doing.
tl;dr Go back to middle school and learn English, I beg you.
Not him but your strawman is pathetic, the game clearly shows it's intention during that fight and it by no means difficult, the fact that you care this much is only telling me that your Isobel died and you're coping to the max over a already easy game.
Git gud
Poor bait anon, try again. Here's a hint: everyone here knows what initiative is, read more.
1. Reload if it bothers you that much
2. I've done that fight twice on tactician and she didn't die learn how to play the game you absolute moron
3. If you have a balanced party you're gonna have 1-2 members roll first
4. There's a whole conversation before hand letting you know that they are gonna steal her
Out of all the fights you complain about that one? Put your handler on please, I need to talk to them about your internet privileges
You seriously don't know what anyone is talking about, do you?
You're right anon a player who's made it to act 2 already dealing with arguably harder encounters (killing the hobgoblin), (gith creche)
Is going to absolutely struggle against a clearly designed combat encounter with a save state minutes away. How the frick did larian think this was a good idea
>You keep trying to act like I don't understand the games core mechanics
I am not, stupid, fricking Black person. I'm referring to you wanting to defend those who don't understand. READ.
>This entire discussion focuse don an entirely different concept
No, Black person. You said "they won't know shit about how to properly build initiative, in which case they just immediately lose the fight for obvious reasons", and I started discussing how this isn't something that makes sense or should be defended.
>Most people playing this game are idiots
Yes, that's literally what I've been saying since my first post.
>and most of them didn't even reach act 2
I was clearly talking about the encounter from Act 2, which is where the discussion was centered.
>moments where an enemy managing to get better initiative rolls
As I already mentioned, even if you are fricked by RNG, there is no way you can be in a situation where Isobel dies before you can react unless you are doing something VERY wrong.
>and I started discussing how this isn't something that makes sense
which is moronic because you can completely ignore it and still beat the game. You do know that, right? This game isn't hard. You don't need to pick anything that boosts initiative in order to play the game.
>I'm referring to you wanting to defend those who don't understand.
I never even did this you illiterate Black person. I said that someone can lose that encounter if x happens, not that it needs to happen. And even if you lose, it doesn't even matter.
>even if you are fricked by RNG, there is no way you can be in a situation where Isobel dies before you can react unless you are doing something VERY wrong.
What the frick are you talking about? Yes you can. If we follow your example and you got fricked by RNG, making the enemies all act first, you can easily lose the encounter near instantly if not instantly
>why?
Because they all move, and attack, first. The enemies all ignore your characters to specifically surround her because their goal is to kidnap her. If they all manage to go first for some reason because of RNG frickery, you lose, then have to deal with a harder fight.
kys moron
>which is moronic because you can completely ignore it and still beat the game
Why are you attacking this scarecrow, homosexual? We're discussing the consequences of a specific encounter and how avoidable they are, not the game as a whole.
>I never even did
>"A new player who knows nothing about D&D is not going to think this because they won't know shit about how to properly build initiative"
>"you're obviously expected to lose the encounter even if it's winnable"
You lying, smelly Black person.
>making the enemies all act first
And I'm saying that's impossible unless you have no idea what you're doing and can't read (which is not something anyone on this board should do and still cry about it). Is it very difficult to understand this or is your brain rotten beyond repair from swallowing so much cum?
>strawman
Fixed.
>And I'm saying that's impossible
Which doesn't fricking matter here because you specifically just mentioned a scenario where this actually does happen, you stupid sack of shit. You aren't even reading your own posts, let alone anyone else's. The fact that you think that me pointing out that newbies might not build for initiative means I'm defending the behavior is proof enough of that as is. you don't even need to build for it since it scales off dex.
You're clearly just looking for an argument for the sake of having a meaningless argument like
said.
>because you specifically just mentioned a scenario where this actually does happen
I didn't mention anything like that, you illiterate Black person. I said that even if RNG fricks you up, it will still be impossible not to have an opportunity to ensure her safety as long as you haven't fricked up your stats for being fricking stupid.
>The fact that you think that me pointing out that newbies might not build for initiative means I'm defending the behavior
>"Uuuhhh, you're totally expected to lose that fight!"
Your own words, Black person. You are dumb, dishonest, and actively DEFENDING the chimpanzees who share your low IQ. Please end your life.
Everyone who quoted your post pointed out what an idiot you are, but somehow, everyone is wrong and you are this poor misunderstood monkey. Go frick yourself.
>I didn't mention anything like that
>>even if you are fricked by RNG
Concession accepted. Go bait fish somewhere else.
>inb4 that doesn't count
>even if the initiative rng fricks you over
Take a pre-emptive "cope".
Yes, you fricking Black person! Even if the RNG fricks you over as in "even if you're not the first, second or third to act thanks to bad rolls." I know you're dishonest and will attack this to get out of being publicly humiliated, but I literally explain the terms of this scenario here:
>"there is no way you can be in a situation where Isobel dies before you can react unless you are doing something VERY wrong"
Again. All you have to do is stop sucking wieners and read.
Still coping after getting BTFO?
>'ehehe cope'
Excellent. This type of post suits your shit skin color better than when you are pathetically using mental gymnastics to disguise how dumb you are. Glad you accepted your true nature. Last (you), illiterate, Black person homosexual.
Yup, you're still coping.
Anon, we're not talking about normalgays.
We're talking about morons here on Ganker b***hing about failing the encounter.
I expect better from the losers here who all claim to have critical taste and insight into what makes a game.
I don't care if some normalgay gets filtered. I care that some one RIGHT HERE ON Ganker is coming here and b***hing about aspects of the game or an encounter being unfair because they sucked and then trying to make excuses that normalgays weren't supposed to pass the test.
So OP is a normalgay? That's what we're going with?
That means he shouldn't even fricking be here let alone receiving validation for being a weak ass shitter who bought into hype on a franchise he's never touched.
This is why I mentioned gatekeeping. This is the gate, and we are keeping it. If the best you got is "the game is too hard to figure out :(" you don't belong here, you don't deserve validation. You deserve to be ridiculed and bullied until you never come back to discussion you aren't qualified for.
I don't think this thread is so much about people b***hing about the encounter anon. I think it's two sides that are talking about different aspects of the fight but seem to think the people on the other side are directly against their opinion.
Is talking about the surprise of the situation and the alternative lose con being different from the rest of the game, whereas in his chain,
seems to think that his point is that he just didn't understand the game effectively enough to win the fight, once you already know the surprise.
It's just a miscommunication issue but that isn't fun to correct and will just kill the thread if it is.
>Evil guy comes to pick up the cleric protecting the inn
>Gee I sure hope that doesn't have any consinquences if I let her go!
And then you just have disingenuous anons who are going out of their way to pick a fight. Take a (You) for your troubles.
bait
it's pretty cut and dry
anon was complaining that you have to kill Isobel or whatever, calling it "DM fiat bullshit"
then it was pointed out that it was their own fault for letting her get captured in the first place
then came the waterworks about how it wasn't their fault.
it's all an excuse to avoid responsibility for their failings.
this one anon has it in their head it's deeper than that, but it isn't. I don't know if they are OP or not but they start harping on about the encounter being designed to lose up front and keep trying to move the goalposts when the other side has been up front saying "you sucked at an encounter that wasn't even challenging"
See anon, literally not a single post in the posts I quoted or any of the posts they had replied to linked back to
which is who you are now quoting.
You are trying to carry on an argument with one anon but not the anon you actually have been replying too.
A communication error that isn't solved because anon's aren't ITT to have a genuine conversation.
No one of b***hing about failing the encounter. People just can't read and aren't on the same wavelength so they keep arguing around each other.
Are you just following me around and saying my posts with less words?
>I'm bad at video games therefore the video game is bad
There is literally a conversation just before the fight where you can extract information from Marcus to find out his intentions are to capture her alive,
How in the ever living frick at you that bad at babies first rpg
Honestly, there is no reason Markus and company should be allowed to just act out of initiative when they kidnap Isobel.
>they know isobel unconscious
>they have to fly/run away with reduced movement speed
>you can use throwing weapons and they would need to make saving throws to keep a grasp on her
>you could mercy kill isobel yourself while they try to kidnap her
>etc
The fight should not just be over when they knock her unconscious.
It's weird to me people like the writing in this game and DoS2.
The selection of knightly helmets in the game kinda sucks ass, Oathbreaker helmet looks like shit and the exposed neck is awful. Why do modern RPG devs make it so hard for me to play as faceless fodder? That's what I want.
You can't post shit like this then upload an image of an insanely shit game like ravenloft, makes you look like a deranged moron.
Ravenloft is shit, but it's soul.
>but it's soul
That doesn't mean anything. There are plenty of genuinely good old games and you chose trash, like all boomers with dementia.
>why can't games be superficial goyslop sold on box art alone, vgh
Why are you entertaining an anime poster?
Because he actually plays the games.
His opinions on things are worthless.
Doesn't seem that way.
DoS2 is leagues beyond BG3. You can tell they made BG3 as dumb as they could to appease the most people possible. I mean all the companions are so....sterotypes i guess? The magic mcguffin guy, the suave rouge, the noble guy with a dark past, the tomboy
what exactly is suave about Astarion? he just has a flamboyant voice but besides that he's kind of a downer and honestly makes Laezel look like a party animal.
Anon you replied to is a brainlet who looked at the characters, assumed their stereotypes, then figured nothing changes over the course of the game.
>vidya character have clear morals and goals which doesn't budge
>NOOO THESE CHARACTERS ARE LIKE ROBOTS! REAL PEOPLE DON'T ACT LIKE THIS!
>vidya character has many flaws to make them more realistic
>LOL THESE CHARACTERS ARE FRICKING STUPID! REAL PEOPLE DON'T ACT LIKE THIS!
>do neither of these things
>Imbecile anon says I did
Le horseshoe theory xD
>46.8% have left Act 1
>31.6% have left Act 2
>Only 13.3% have beaten the game
What causes this? I thought this was the next big thing since sliced bread?
>What causes this?
Its very long and most people aren't neets.
>The cope
That’s comparable numbers to Elden Ring and many other games at about the two/three month mark as well
Why would anyone want something to end? I mean just look at you, how long have you been here? You can't even end visiting Ganker.
Hello, good sir, many rupees will be deposited into your account thank you for defending BG3!
>he thinks I'm defending BG3
A small percentage of the playerbase having the cheevo that says they beat the game is pretty much the norm and not the exception, moron.
An additional 4,000 rupees you will receive for good misdirection sir!
>Trying to turn the pajeet meme around
Lmfao he's seething
>I've been found out!
You are coping so hard.
That's pretty common. Most people don't beat games that they buy for some reason. Go look at achievement stats for any game and you will see things like this.
Most games from 2010 are Lucky to have a 50% completion rate.
The game is very frontloaded when it comes to the good stuff. The further in you go the worse it gets.
not unique to bg3. most players don't finish the games they play. it's been known for years
Why starfield with its 8h campaign has only 2% more vs 100h+ game, fabio?
Jaheira is lame anyway.
>My wife's 8-year-old
BG3 has perfect character for you
Why is he majority of bg3 fan art so shit
It's a pretty long game if you're just blundering around instead of taking some busted class combination that deletes combat encounters and never sleeps because sleep will end the Potion of Cloud Giant Strength
>Kill Isobel because she has practically mounted Jaheira and began bludgeoning her to death with a large rock
What are you even on about schizo pajeet?
hey guys
china
>My wife's 8-year-old
Shocked that video game discussion superseded a cuck joke on nu-Ganker for this long.
>OP makes moronic decisions
>Loses easy fight
>Murders mind controlled victim NPC instead of knocking her out with dedicated 'knock them the frick out' toggle
what a dumbass
>sanctuary Isobel while she's at full hp
>her turn follows, she immediately breaks it then runs around the room collecting opportunity attacks
>ghouls then followup by swarming her with 2 or 3 crits back to back
>she's dead before I get another turn
Was a few weeks ago, but I seethed for a good long while before reloading. Also pretty sure I compel dueled someone in that fight and they just decided to ignore it.
>d the room collecting opportunity attacks
then follow up by swarming her with 2 or 3 crits back to back
Her AI is moronic and deliberately tries to get herself killed. She also starts at 15% HP which doesn't help at all.
when I talked to Jaheira she said the cultists may think I am one of them and I could play along and infiltrate that way. When they came to kidnap isobel I didnt stop them and then everyone died except for Jaheira. She was upset that everyone died but she didnt seem angry at me for basically being the cause of it
>go into fight knowing it’s an ambush at full health, full buffs, sanctuary/fein death ready with every initiative perk specifically for this fight
Evwybody wetaded but me!