>Killing is... le bad!
Deep. I needed a video game to teach me that.
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>Killing is...
>Killing is... le bad!
Deep. I needed a video game to teach me that.
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it's more about killing for the sake of being a completiongay
in the same sentence he says that not every problem can be resolved by just being nice, and that there's "a lot of flowey's out there"
and also this
>I am going to kill you for a digital internet trophy now
An even more insightful lesson to apply to real life. Communists could learn from this game. The power of friendship will fix everything!!!
I mean you joke, but there's legitimately a massive issue of people that unironically think that they should be allowed to kill countless people because some celebrity has a big house.
If I can't be rich, no one can be rich. GET BACK IN THE FRICKING CRAB BUCKET!
>Punish players for wanting to 100% a game and wanting a challenge
>In a game that hardly has any content other then knowing when to reload a save for quirky dialogue
It's just him being an smart ass
Filtered
>barely content
You didn't play the game
players for wanting to 100% a game
Sounds based
players for wanting to 100% a game and wanting a challenge
you literally get rewarded with 2 best bossfights in Undertale and the best theme in the game that broke the whole internetz in the second one,
the ingame universe reminding (You)'re the genocidal monster is simply fricking immersion as that's what you are in geno route
and besides, it's not like Toby will break into your house and rape you with a belt if you delete the files from genocide ending permanence
The game never takes a stance on whether killing "good" or "bad" just get you to think about the consequences of the act of killing
People on this preach genocide all the time
Guess gamers need to be taught that killing is bad huh?
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!!!!!
More like taught that it's good. Despite all the games teaching it's bad people continue to consider it good. Maybe they should just concede to reality?
Yeah Undertroon is shit, move on
>friend doesn't want to see you hurt
wow what a bad friend
Your friend s actually do want to see you hurt. I speak from real life experience.
I'm going to kill my friends now, as a deterrent
Smart man.
I am houlier than thou given my life.
This gay literally just spent the entire game trying to hurt you.
>this gay
His soul isn't even intact until you beat his ass on the monkey bars, and even then he can't retain his form after that.
whats lebad?
>tries to push the narrative that "it's okay if you need to do a shitty thing if you have no other choice"
>simultaneously expects you to be a paragon of morality because you're also a time lord
Oh, Toby. You thought you were cute pulling this in the Earthbound Halloween Hack, and then you are take the "your choices don't matter and any semblance of decision is an illusion" aspect from that hack for Deltarune.
deltarune seems to have something interesting going on with gaster, specifically the juxtaposition with him seemingly being friendly in the intro, but literally all other aspects of him painting him as a satanic time lord obsessed with inflicting pain.
Maybe there’s something to the theories that Gaster is parallel to a game maker or dungeon master, kind of like how Flowey is a character that acts like a player. Someone who has absolute control over the world and “likes” it on some level, but is equally happy to drive characters mad or find ways to make you commit evil because it’s just interesting to him.
Deltarune is a timeloop that, no matter how much Gaster tries to frick with it, remains stable and ensures the same ultimate outcome no matter what happens. He's trying to break it for one reason or another, and that's where he deviates massively by enlisting (You) to be an unpredictable variable to force the world to its very limits.
>one day, he fell into his creation, and...
holy shit this makes too much sense
gaster wants the player to do the weird route, that's why it's done via very clinical "proceed" prompts, the kind doctors would use during a surgery. for him it's just an action that needs to be performed to achieve the necessary outcome.
Yes? You're the only one in Undertale who actually has the power to choose. Incredible that you stated the point perfectly and still fail to understand it.
I usually default to as nonlethal options as possible if it's not a massive pain in the ass. When given a choice in killing someone, I might want to see what the writers thought up for the scenario where the character is still alive even if I know it's gonna bite me in the ass and I rarely kill for loot unless it's really, really good. Stuff like having one extra opponent to fight at some point can be a b***h but is probably one of the best ways to do it if it makes the fight they're in significantly harder.
I'm not going to go through a "kill everything"-route for cheevos, the game itself has to be real interesting for that route.
Stealing is fine by me but I wonder if there are games where it has very clear consequences for the character I stole it from, like the game tells or shows you they die (maybe even warns about it) or something a bit more inventive. Maybe you're apprehended about it if you return to the town/village or during some quest? I would also like if it was possible that you could actually get away with it.
A gang of thugs trying to apprehend you if you steal is bullshit especially when it's like a poor peasant that you stole from.
>it's another "Ganker acts holier-than-thou about a game for kids and teens" episode
What a homosexual game. If there’s no biomechanical abominations then I’m not interested (gay robots need not apply)
What about photoshop flowey?
This game has some really fricked up shit if you go maniac knifeparty but the other way has you on some fruity everyone loves you friendship is magic route like some toddler cartoon, so whats the real target audience for this homosexualry?
autists
Furries.
it gives you what you came for.
You need to go back to mlp
Lee, where are you?
Because of Toby's pacifist spiel I deliberately mowed everything down in UT and DR and got the neutral endings. Fricking sucks that it makes you miss out the Spamton fight in DR, Toby literally wants you to do pacifist on your first playthrough.
you get the spamton fight in the "kill everything" route in deltarune, you just did it wrong.
I don't think you can do the boss fight if you kill him at the dumpster.
getting mad that a game gently suggested something about your morals while having the exact opposite be a viable playstyle is peak fatherless moment.
>actions having consequences in an RPG is le bad!
I hate toby fox dicksuckers but I hate dismissive posts like this just as much
>toby fox dicksuckers
I wouldn't even know his frickin name if it weren't for you homosexuals. I just liked the game.
I find the hate weird. It’s a great game, and theirs nothing wrong with disagreeing but something seriously wrong with obsessing over it.
Undertale psychically raped many people. It comes across in the way they act.
Because your brother was a lil b***h and so are you
>Somebody attacks you almost killing you
>You attack them back killing them
>Nooo you didn't have to kill him...
A murderer who doesn't know he is killing people is more dangerous then somebody defending themselves
/thread
Yet people are still arguing about this since almost a decade already
You're leaving out the part where you don't fricking die when you're killed. The game just resets and you reload, and both you and Sans know that in the story. It's not a deep or complicated concept.
he could have just coded the enemy not to try to kill you
And you could just not get hit
What, are you bad at videogames?
Do you need to play on easy mode?
Do you need mommy to feed you with a spoon
he could have coded anything, he is the demiurge he rails against
And you're bad at videogames
Gyehehehe
ok dude, whatever makes you feel better
>you don't fricking die when you're killed
I want you to re-read what you just said.
>But you got funny time powers!
What if I didn't? What if the person after me doesn't? What about the people before?
its literally impossible for papyrus to kill you in the game though.
I am talking about in general. Still, if he didn't want to get shit on he shouldn't have played the game.
bro papyrus lowers his fricking damage to not kill you and even stops the fight against him. if you lose five or six times in a row, he lets you go.
>sans uses gaster's abnormal spacing when talking in his "real" font.
>people just gloss over it and never think too hard about it.
Reminder that Gaster is the third brother, and all the buildup of meeting "Sans' brother" with people thinking "oh papyrus!! haha funny skeletor :)" will be completely turned upside-down when you meet Gaster before he became the god of schizos.
basically
>Vessel Creation song is ANOTHER HIM
>ANOTHER HIM refers to Gaster's Undertale song being "Mus_st_him" in the files
>but it could also very well be a reference to the redacted "ANOTHER BROTHER"
it's called another him because it's an entirely different gaster not related to the UT gaster whatsoever. another toriel, another asgore, another alphys, another gaster. the only characters that are the same in both are sans and papyrus.
Alright, let's settle this once and for all, what if (you) would be in the same situation? You get same powers to reload, but not only you can die, you also feel pain while this happens. Just because you have some superpowers, would you still forgive and hug all of these cute and quirky characters who "accidentally" stab, tear you apart and set you on fire or would you pummel them into the gravy without any remorse? Genuinely curious.
I would cum in every temmie
i leave everyone alive except alphys. i push her into the core
If I can come back, I'm doing the right thing.
Same, I'd make sure to genocide m*nsterscum for the sake of Mankind
>undertale
>dont kill because its... LE BAD
>Tetris
>Kill as much as possible because it makes number go up
>papyrus knows what you are, and has 100% faith in you to be good
>sans knows what you are, has basically zero faith in you to be good
>gaster knows what you are, wants to exploit you for personal gain
asriel sexo
>le bad
No you fricking homosexual it’s badong, which is significantly worse.
or just play any MGS game
>Preventing the destruction of the world is....le bad!
>Don't kill and don't be killed, alright?
I live in Detroit, Asriel.
Don't you have anything better to do?
i do, yes
>hold down the goat boy and milk his balls to save the world
deep
Some people needed the Bible.
>systematically massacre and genocide every singlemonster in the underground
>intentionally seek out confrontations to make it happen
>kill multiple monsters who do not want to fight you at all
>"WOOOW I'M BEING PUNISHED FOR DEFENDING MYSELF???"
>game tries to guilt you into not completing it
mental illness
>game punishes you for autism
was undertale based all along?