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If mounting a comeback isn't just as fun as playing super well, then your game simply is not well made. This extends to many stealth games as well.
maybe we should be able to rewind anything.
They did it because people get frustrated when one poor turn on the last lap killed their otherwise earned podium because the dogshit rubberband essentially makes it where only that lap matters and you have to perfect that lap when you can drive like dogshit with no consequences on any other lap. Instead of fixing that they just slap an undo while the root problem is still there.
So a mistake was made and they paid the price for it?
Redoing a 3 minute race isn't a big deal, but realizing that 2/3rds of all the time you spent racing will not affect the outcome in any way is a bit of a big deal. Why is that time even spent there if it's pointless?
Yes, casuals and normalgays hate that, and they are the ones that buy games.
>dogshit rubberband
Kind of true. Rubber banding is the other thing that killed racing games. If your AI needs to cheat to beat players, maybe you should work on improving your AI instead of making it cheat to give the illusion of competitiveness
Here's the problem:
In order to not have rubber banding you need to code an AI that is good enough to not get left behind in a race with the player but not so good the player can't beat them. And remember, you have to code this AI for the "normal" difficulty, meaning that you have to keep in mind the average player. Rubberbanding is a corrective mechanic, it allows for a greater range of skill level to be challenged by a single difficulty setting. Without it, you'll end up with far more complaints about how the AI is fricking trash and gets lapped, or how the AI is fricking broken and impossible to beat, over complaints about rubber banding.
Every other genre has figured out how to make games that are balanced. I don't see why racers can't.
It's especially silly because racers inherrently have analogue scoring. Just make the racers have different skill levels and have players be competitive for whatever range they end up in.
>dogshit rubberband essentially makes it where only that lap matters
I've played every FH from 2 to 5 and FM from 4 to 7 all on the highest difficulty including tons of those long endurance races and this isn't really true. If you're consistently fast you will beat the AI not just on the last lap. They like to cheat but it's usually when they're already ahead, once you get past them you will stay past them unless you frick up somewhere. It's kind of the opposite of a normal racing game where they're slow until you pass them then they start cheating to get a place back.
what the frick is that
>kills
nah, if anything it's just a quality-of-life feature for singleplayer
rewind is great for training on specific corners, that's primarily what i use it for
>quality-of-life feature
AKA casualization for pussies afraid of anything remotely challenging
>anon cannot read past more than one sentence
>AIEEEE NOOOOO!!!!! MUH SINGLEPLAYER EXPERIENCE IS RUINEEEEDDDD!!
turn it off then, homosexual
it won't help you in multiplayer races
>GRID was the cancer all along
I fricking told you but nooooo, muh ravenwest XD
>He never played on savage difficulty with rewind turned off
You just had to be a Black person didnt you?
Okay? Just don't press Y.
Are you such a drooling moron that you feel like you have to press the button just because it shows up on the screen?
Learn some self-control.
it would be like dark souls adding a bethesda save system to their games.
the risk of dying and losing your shit and having to retrace your steps is what makes the game so tense.
if you just put in tools to make the game baby mode of course everyone is going to use it.
>feature is optional
>singleplayer only
>b-but it exists!
big moron moment for anon today
this anon gets it
Backtracking isn't fun.
>risk of loss drives tension
You already lost something to be in that situation. The same could be said about dying at all anyway.
>the greater difficulty of recovering your loss makes it fun
What if you just stayed low power and challenged yourself instead of gearing up and having to die to not be bored? Ever thought of that?
Revisiting areas you previously conquered should feel rewarding, not a walk of shame as you scurry past it in a hurry to get to your corpse.
I don't really see the connection to a literal undo button, but you are wrong about muh hardcords = better.
>Every game needs to be dark souls
Frick off
rewind feature is fricking gay and I found it disgusting when they introduced it into forza.
I know people who are so bad at racing games they have the driving line on with all the assists and they still frick up and use the rewind.
god damnit fricking learn braking and cornering and how to drive your car you moronic wiener gobbler.
I installed the latest forza cause free on GP and the moment I took a very light bump with another car that didn't even slow me down or throw me off the road that message popped up
I don't get it bros
Single player racing games have been ruined by rubberbanding from the very start, rewind is irrelevant.
>cheat the game with another game's physics model entirely
>your opponents break the laws of physics themselves to try to catch up
Just keep an eye on Razor in the minimap.
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>missed a turn - rewind
):<
>missed a turn - restart race
O:
It's a good feature given the imprecision of using thumbstick input, and the sometime wacky actions by racing AI.
The biggest problem with racing games is the lack of anything outside of just doing races. Racing is fun, but where's my Forza or GT with a strategic layer where I'm managing a racing team in some sort of league. I'm not much of a fan of F1, but I think that's the main reason I've gone back to those games so many times in the last several years. It's fun to build up your racing team through the seasons, and gives context to grinding out races.
forza killed the racing genre in general
WOOOOOOOOOOP
and he don't never run out of, uh, the back-in-time juice
WOOOOOOOOOP
>disable all assists
>disable rubberbanding
>disable speed equalization
>set difficulty to hardcore
>no rewind as a feature
>have fun
The game is impossible to git gud at with the assists on - much like wipeout before it.
Forza is so trash in first person you don't even turn your steering wheel the whole way