given the upcoming game announcement, what armor would you like to see in the game?
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Kingdom Come 2
given the upcoming game announcement, what armor would you like to see in the game?
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Bear hunting armor
i'd prefer more character stuff and less combat
there was barely any combat, kinda disappointed how good you can get at the game easily and just break any opponents on 1 on 1.
Hopefully, the good gameplay armor shows up, it wasn't in last time
do we know it's KC2 yet? what if it's something else with a similar theme?
People who think it's KC2 are moronic and didn't look at the image Warhorse posted for more than a second.
QRD?
>Warhorse studio is going to announce a new game on 18th
>Pic of man on a horse in a low light
>Most people assume that it is going to be KDC 2 and some other twitter "sources" confirmed it
>Some people think that it isnt or if it is, it wont be a direct sequel or a another historical RPG because they think that the clothing on the guy doesnt doenst look medieval
I think that is pretty much it
Thanks king. I frankly don't care if it's KCD2 or not, just as long as it's another medieval RPG. They did a fantastic job with KCD recapturing that feeling of playing an elder scrolls game for the first time
Don't care about armor
Give us more bows and crossbows
Are we in the age of pure gothic armor yet?
Armets will always be the classic knight helmet.
Sad to see zoomers and americ*ns refer to it as the "Dark Souls helmet".
>refer to it as the "Dark Souls helmet".
I've never heard a single person refer to it as that.
Then you have not been lurking enough.
Who gives a frick what people call it on Ganker lmao
I thought you meant somewhere that matters, like real life.
>real life
I've never heard of this imageboard.
nobody has ever called it that not even Zoomers and Americans
That's no even an armet.
armets split in 2 in the chin that's a close helm.
close helms have a double hinge like the one in your picture
Only under modern terminology
You are the first person I have ever seen refer to it as such. Are you a zoomer american?
i frick with the fluted helmet more or as the anons calls it the demons souls helmet. literally nobody says that you fricking mongoloid.
Passing mentions to the cabasset aka the Abyss Watchers helmet.
Is the first game worth playing?
No. Dark Souls is casual normie shit. Just play Monster Hunter.
bump
>Salet + Red tabard chainmail + Greaves + gauntlets
KINO
extra point if one side has full arm armor
Sallet is GOAT
>having greathelms in a game side-by-side with renaissance era helmets
moronic, this is like giving soldiers muskets in the 21st century and thinking it's fine because the shape looks similar to modern rifles
Exaggerating just a bit there anon
NTA but that is actually about the same amount of time, 1200 -> 1500 and 1700 -> 2000
Same amount of time doesn't mean the same effect
It's like saying Alexander used pikes so it's completely outrageous to use them in the 17th century
That's over a thousand years! Like giving someone a rock and calling it a gun.
>it makes sense in my head, so that means it happened
No, moron, it didn't happen. Knights did not use great helms after the 1200s.
Completely avoiding my point are we?
Tell me, what would happen if I hit you in the head if you were wearing a great helm as opposed to any of the other helms?
Almost like that's my fricking point
Your point is a non-analogous situation?
My point is you're stupid for saying the difference of automatic weapons with muskets is comparable to steel helmets and steel helmets.
And a 1930's computer is basically the same thing as a 2024 computer, who cares if I have someone using the latter in my WW2 film?
It's called anachronism and what you're doing is called moronic.
Go play video games where you can wear whatever you find fashionable instead of getting upset that your favorite bucket was only used for a narrow period of history.
What's wrong? Giving up on the musket comparison and changing goals?
Come on, tell me more about muskets.
I accept your concession.
Wrong on all accounts and staying stubbornly stupid.
And just so you know, great helms where still seen as far as the 1400's, what some would call the RENAISSANCE
I know you homosexuals stopped replying to search it up and found out I'm right.
So I would like to take this time to say Eat Shit
Tired of repeating the same points to you when you clearly don't care about reality and just have some obsession with being able to dress up your toy soldiers like you want without being made fun of. Go play Mordhau, that game doesn't give a shit about accuracy.
>clearly don't care about reality
Great helms were used during that time period despite what the voice in your head tells you.
You can post it as many times as you want, you're still wrong.
I'm sure you found at least two posts by random people on reddit that told you that.
Sir Nicholas Hauberk's great helm from 1407
Plenty of other examples 1350's with Nicholas' being a late example
1200 was pulled from your ass just like your brain
>1350's with Nicholas' being a late example
You're right, that is a late example, because they stopped being used around the 1200s in favor of bascinets.
Many great helms are literally designed to be worn over bascinets, Anon, especially during that transitory period lol.
Goes over the bascinet, and is flung to the back and held by a chain or strap if you need more vision.
>because they stopped being used around the 1200s
You mean except for the fact that I just said they hadn't since we have clear historic examples left from that era?
And those are simply helmets that have survived to modern date. They estimate great helms to have remained in jousting well in to the 16th century.
I have given you clear evidence, can you stop being stupid now?
>You mean except for the fact that I just said they hadn't since we have clear historic examples left from that era?
You posted a cartoon and a picture of reenactors, that's not proof, the only thing you can really prove is that they were used in tournaments and maybe a couple examples actually used in battle in the 1350s but you yourself asspulled the claim that they're used all the way to the 15th century. If you saw someone wearing a greathelm in the 15th century it would be unusual and antiquated for its time period, you definitely wouldn't see it used in actual battles.
>You posted a cartoon and a picture of reenactors
No I didn't, I posted a name which you can search up to see his fricking helmet.
Did you?
As for the rest of your post
I'm not typing the same shit again because your brain doesn't work.
lol k.
99% of the people in this picture have bascinets and not greathelms, why do you think that is
It's funny how you still haven't proved that they stopped being used in the 1200's
Multiple people have given evidence to counter that.
So are you going to keep moving goalposts or post proof?
>If you saw someone wearing a greathelm in the 15th century it would be unusual and antiquated for its time period
Fine, you presented an image of one(1) person wearing a greathelm while everyone else around him was wearing the practical option most people would have actually been using. Nevermind the fact you are presenting cartoons which are idealized and not necessarily a reflection of the real thing.
So you're going to constantly refuse to acknowledge not only the surviving helmets from that time period but the king wearing one as well.
Go frick yourself you stupid c**t.
The point is that great helmets were still in use late 14th century and early 15th century (they're not going to magically all disappear, history is transitory).
I even posted an effigy which depicts a bascinet which was worn under the great helm (something that was done during this transitory period). So I don't know what else to tell you other than you're just objectively wrong, while they'd be rare, it wouldn't be that out there to find one in KCD.
>funerary helmet
Read the other posts and also remember that his main argument being that we wouldn't see these helmets at all during these times, let alone being worn for social occasions.
Any last straws to pluck?
Prove it?
Your point has nothing to do with reality so I don't care. If you want great helms in your game then you should accept that they were the only available technology of their time, so ONLY put great helms. Putting every flavor of helmet from each era of history is pure troonyism.
If you want to be accurate, they did up to the early 15. But at that point it noticible that they are starting to turn into frogmouths and it is dabatable if they were used on the field or not
NTA. From my memory, greathelms quit being used in combat in the 1200s but kept being used for tournaments, evolving into frogmouths by the time you reach the renaissance.
Actually I fricked up my dates
Great helms were mostly 1200s, with proto-greathelms being invented a couple decades before the start of the century, and being phased out for visored bascinets in the first few decades of the 1300s. KCD is ~1400, so a late greathelm would be like a ww1 helmet. I'm not going to say a WW2 helmet because those are too close to what still gets used nowadays. The only justifiable inclusion of a great helm I could think of is like, some really eccentric old guy holding on to a visored great helm that's 80 years old.
>The only justifiable inclusion of a great helm I could think of is like, some really eccentric old guy holding on to a visored great helm that's 80 years old.
It could be a handmedown.
Yeah. It'd have to be something like
>made in 1300
>Boomer knight gets a visor added to it in 1320 instead of putting the visor on his bascinet like a normal person
>given to its owner's grandson as an heirloom
>grandson's now an old fart holding onto this helmet into the 1400s
We have a relative decent amount great helms dated to the 14th century and there is art of them being used everywhere in combat up to late 14th century, when they seem to start dwindle and turn into things like
which are thought of as being more tournament oriented with one extant piece to my knowledge being definitively a tournament piece. And appropriately the art does also reflects those changes, but even then
and other helmets that are far more like frogmouth helmets are still show up here and there being used in combat, and this has been a point of debate that still hasnt been solved.
Its still true that for a KDC timeline great helms like most pic related would have been very out of fashion for places that werent backwater, but there is strong evidence for a continual use up to the 1380s which is the core of your post that I dont agree with.
As for the question of if they were used of combat or tournament only, a museum curator or reasearch would be able to end this dicussion by pointing out if any of the extant one have combat damage like cut marks and etc, but im neither of those, and simply saying that they were for tournament use only during the 14th century is empty speculation considering that there is an extensive artistical evidence that suggests that they were used in combat during this period.
Can we come to a compromise?
Henry can wear a greathelm, but all the knights call him a fudd if he does.
Ok
Pikes were still used in the 17th century
>greathelms: 900 - 1100 AD
>renaissance: 1550-1650
In fact, I didn't exaggerate the point enough. It's even worse than the example I gave.
And you'd be incorrect as great helms remained in use even in the 15th century (albeit much less common).
Prove it?
They were also used in jousting and gradually evolved into the stechhelm/frogmouth.
>When Kings rode into battle and were expected to fight
A time when the leaders of the nation led from the front. Now we've got nothing but cowards for leaders.
the current european kings often do military service
Not really though. Henry V nearly had his head caved in at agincourt, he was in the midst of the brutal fighting. Prince harry larping in uniform at a safe distance isn’t really the same thing.
modern monarchy is a joke. their roles are entirely ceremonial, even if they de jure are leaders of their countries.
don’t forget that kings would sit and listen to the legal complaints of their subjects too. you had kings arbitrating on peasants arguing over whose land pigs are allowed to cross over and shit like that. they were more accessible than people seem to realise
>what armor would you like to see in the game?
I don't care, as long as a neurodivergent nonbinary minority bipoc wears it
Is Henry gonna use a gun in this game or are they going to blueball us until the third game?
He should use a modern rifle instead. It's essentially identical and I like modern rifles more.
>Jesus Christ be praised! Henry has come to see us!
Honestly just more of the first game is fine for me, new areas and a continuation of Henry's story but I'm so happy there is a second game you have no idea.
If you want a laugh, read the Historical Accuracy segment on the Wikipedia page of the first game
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Come:_Deliverance
>some commentators and scholars have criticised the developers' overwhelmingly White portrayal of 15th-century Central Europe
Oh, it's one of these.
This is true though. The game, like all medieval shit, just screams reactionary fantasy. Frick the dark ages. Christcuckery and people living in shit and never bathing. Of course the era was more diverse than you’ll ever admit (cheddar man) but even still europeans existed in a benighted stupor over their pathetic desert religion. It was a time of despotism and everything good about the world is defined against it. These games present an opportunity to educate people on the correct interpretation of medieval times and if they don’t, if they attempt at all to whitewash it, they’re propaganda. Simple as.
>stupid fricking post
>furry image
ye
Why do weirdo ideologues hate the middle ages so much? Like I have genuinely never seen the amount of slander and outright lies applied to any other era than I do medieval times
Because scholastic Catholicism was the most coherent philosophical system ever put to parchment and as a result produced the greatest aesthetic beauty mankind has so far been capable of (gothic, dante, choral music). You can simply look at something like chartes and feel the pure incomprehensible truth beaming out of the stone into the sensory configuration of beauty. That makes people who want you to pay attention to their essays and cultural criticism who make nothing but hideous shit nobody naturally is drawn toward extremely upset and angry.
That's why.
>uncropped screenshot
>phonegay
Funny how he also uses a picture from the 1950s, ignoring the fact that boomers were the generation that started the liberal leftist hippie movement.
You did not adress the point, israelite.
The thing is I don't even agree with these morons who demonize the 50s or any other period in time. I support a conservative family structure and hate woke freaks, I just think it's also stupid to imagine the 50s as some sort of utopia. Back then you already had porn in the form of playboys, drugs, and widespread smoking, not to mention the rise of highways and suburbia which are ironically viewed as negative by the same people who fantasize about said time period.
I didn't make the picture, I just thought the greentext was correct.
Should have been a picture of the Renaissance or even the High middle ages.
Yeah, I agree on that. Life was harder back then but people had a purpose.
it’s also just the classic orwell. the past is the main source of cultural influence and values nobody in the present has direct control over. people who want your every precept about reality centrally mandated and curated have a big difficulty when it comes to awareness of history, because it’s a source of inspiration and connection that generates uncontrolled or sanctioned values. when people say “you’re controlled by tradition/ the past” they really mean the past and tradition is the main thing stopping me from completely controlling you. you won’t accept whatever the currently expedient model of reality is if the indoctrinators are having to compete with thousands of years of art and stories which contradict them.
This picture represent a devastating loss for the left.
The actual reason is Mark Twain. Mark Twain is single-handedly responsible for many of the myths about the middle-ages like "noone could read" and "they thought the earth was flat" and "they were trepanning people's heads all the time", because he was eternally butthurt about the British medievalist novel Ivanhoe, by Sir Walter Scott, inadvertently causing the southern plantation aristocracy getting much more annoying about slavery.
No amount of zoophilia will change the fact that israel has lost.
>Correct interpretation
Yeah go frick yourself, you amoral homosexual. Everything about you says you're not not mad about despots, you're jealous of them.
people like that aren’t despots, they’re totalitarians. a king just wanted you to know who was boss, they didn’t want to regulate and control all aspects of life and culture. a lot of the middle ages was autonomous and local in terms of governance, you just had to acknowledge the king as sovereign over you. totalitarians aren’t like that because they don’t want to be the boss of people, they hate people. they want people to stop existing in any real sense and just be weird extensions of themselves incapable of experiencing or knowing anything outside of the system of thought developed. you never really got that stuff before the enlightenment
why did this obvious bait work on you fricking idiots? stop letting these morons dictate discourse!
>scholars
That's one of the funnier parts. Vavra has actual education in history of Czechia and some homosexual with pseudo degree on the other side of the globe tried to school him on his own country's history.
Though the best part of the debacle was that the game was just so good and liked that all the attempts at cancelling it by the usual """journalists""" fizzled out into nothing and all they can do now is to silently ignore it.
I remember when the game came out seeing a video of some obese american "game journalist" begrudgingly admitting that there probably wasn't any black person in medieval Bohemia, but that they should have added them anyway and that he would not play the game becauise of that.
It was one of the first time I realized just how insanely cucked some americans are, this guy was a 30-something white dude, and the look of pure dejection on his face when he was confronted with evidence that some countries used to not have blacks in them has stuck with me all those years.
People like him and
just feel utter sadness and anger at their own history. It's crazy.
See
I should've properly elaborated my view in my first reply.
>He believed that "[the game's] vision of 15th-century Bohemia suggests a continuity of history that says the Czech Republic is for ethnically Czech citizens only", which was "especially unsettling in the context of the recent re-election of anti-immigrant, anti-European Union President Milos Zeman, the country’s reluctance to accept Muslim refugees, and the rise of populist nationalism".[46]
man you weren't kidding
>suggests a continuity of history that says the Czech Republic is for ethnically Czech citizens only
I mean, this is probably true, but it's a more reasonable bias than wanting to fill the game with africans to promote transcontinental immigration for capitalist purposes.
If you read the rest of the section most historians can only muster up a limited number of Cumans or Moors and certainly not amongst the peasantry. So at best the game could have had a few wandering around the larger towns or something. So if it suggests a "continuity of history" that Bohemia wasn't a mirror image of capitalist multiculturalism then it's an accurate one.
A lot of israeliteery in there.
What makes this even more ironic is that Vavra is of israeli descent himself.
Is it going to have a non moronic save system?
>Bough this game in a sale some years ago
>Played it for some hours, had fun
>Somehow I stopped playing it
>Years pass
>New game incoming
>Oh shit! Need to play it for once!
>But now im bussy with Baldurs Gate III, plus possibly other games in backlog.
>Also the same thing with Nier: Automata
>MFW
This is a warning for any young anons. Never let your backlog of games grow, try finish your games!
"backlog"homosexuals like you are fricking annoying
forcing yourself to play whatever just because it is in some made up bucket list won't make you enjoy it any more. just play what you feel like playing and stop whining about this non-issue
you lads reckon there will be spears this time about?
i like the gothic look, but with armets and burgonet. mordhau showed me alot of different armor, but its not aligned with a time period. seeing the more expensive and advanced sets of armor in historical context would be unique.
the duck helmet and exposed segmented plates also look really cool.
Norman helmets will always be my favourite
Bears wolves lions
The first game is fricking boring the moment you exit a town
Great helms are best helms.
Rat chads always win
These were supposed to represent a hound snout.
I remember reading a text xritten by a medieval monk womparing the "good" knights to loyal watchdogs, and the "evil" robber knights to mad wolves.
Hounskullbros... we're the fat ugly bastard helmet
roll
For me it's half bascinet, I want to show my war face.
Aside from new armour sets (and hopefully a loadout system for fighting, sneaking, city life, etc), I hope we get crossbows too. Their advantage over bows could be their precision and easier aiming, but they could take longer to reload.
For me, it's Migration Period armor.
BONUS: Roll for your Dark Ages wife
forgot pic
>frank and slav are black
What
that's not black dummy, that's olive, white people can tan without sunburning you know (he doesn't know)
Dude I'm french and even in the south no actual french person looks like that, only foreigners, and there was even less mediterranean admixture back then.
It's like the style of the bronze age but more practical
>given the upcoming game announcement, what armor would you like to see in the game?
Bumbum armor
I never really see a Frog design in "Frogmouth
henry better have a 3 hour cutscene where he gets swole
roll
>No plume
>No cape
No buy
More customization options would be cool