Excellent use of horror, excellent design theory, and it works excellently mechanically both as a boss and as a book. Tomerry was quality work. It's really sad that they didn't wind up that way before getting booked, so now they're out in the City like that.
On an old game call Hunter The Reckoning there is a character call Carpenter. Basically just a zombie wearing rags with a bandaged face but he randomly pop into my mind sometimes. Maybe it is the voice acting and weird ass lines/voices he had but I just really like him as a character.
It a beta sprite. If you don't know shit about video games then keep your mouth shut else risk making a fool out of yourself. The beta sprites are basically common knowledge nowadays.
A placeholder that some programmer drew in 10 seconds before actual art from the art department arrived isn't a "beta", its a placeholder.
moron fanboys thinking is some kind of masterful inspiration need to know a little about game development.
Yeah hipster kid, "look! I like this design wich was a doodle and meaningless for the overall game development! i'm so fricking cool and unique!"
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes, it is cool. It's otherworldly design is cool. Stop being so pretentious homosexual.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>hipster kid calling others pretentious
holy shit my hypocrite meter just went off the charts!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nah it looks like shit and the people hyping it up are homosexuals
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It looks like an otherworldly being beyond human understanding and it's cool for it.
[...]
They leaks only confirm that a design that was used before launch got replaced with the final version, aka, if you're reading the entire thread, a placeholder.
Thanks for conceding me three times now.
And if you've been reading the thread then you've should have figured out that just because something gets replaced doesn't make it a placeholder, but you're just too stubborn and all you're doing now is repeating yourself and coping.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>just because something gets replaced doesn't make it a placeholder
That's the literal definition of placeholder, YOU learn to read the thread
Fourth times conceding now! Oh baby!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I already posted the literal definition of a placeholder by Merriam Webster but you're ignoring it as apart of your coping mechanism.
>repeating yourself
Holy shit no one can be THIS hypocrite
Oh please, i've just been stating rebuttals. If i have been repeating myself then it's only because others have done nothing but repeat themselves first. I at least add onto everything i say.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
How does it feel to chew five concedes!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The fact that you have nothing other than "LOL concede!!!" is just a coping mechanism, in fact it's the go to coping mechanism for cowards too afraid to continue a feud because they know they lost.
You're not making yourself look good here, just do yourself a favor and accept your defeat with dignity.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Sixth concede, delicious, keep going anon, the seethe it cause on you knowing you like a random placeholder doodle is pure bliss to me
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>repeating yourself
Holy shit no one can be THIS hypocrite
You miss the part where the moron call it a fakemon. How good it is doesn't matter at all, that is subjective. The moronic was objectively wrong and got called out so now he trying to do damage control and failing horribly. People can see pass all of the bullshit, just take the fricking L. It an anonymous image board. Frick off and just try again but less moronic next time.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
But placeholders aren't "official" pokemon, so a "fakemon" is a description that fit it perfectly.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The design was created by an actual employees working on an official Pokemon game. The design is official from Game Freak themselves.
I doubt you have any proof that it was meant to be just a place holder.
>hipster kid calling others pretentious
holy shit my hypocrite meter just went off the charts!
>No actual rebuttal
Might as well admit that i'm right at this point.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I doubt you have any proof that it was meant to be just a place holder
You don't have proof to the contrary >No rebuttal to my opinion
kek
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
And you have no proof to your claims. That alone is enough proof for me that such claims are just an assumption.
And yes, i did rebuttal that "opinion". I already said multiple times that it doesn't matter what it is the design is cool.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You mean like the source of your claim that it's just a placeholder?
>you have no proof to your claims
Spoiler: If an asset is used only during development and then is changed for the final release, its called a placeholder. Maybe you can use these magical things that have buttons and lights comes from a screen where you can type things and get a definition of a word.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
He's one of those bizarre breeds of pokegay that are more autistic than rest and will throw fits whenever they see beta pokemon. He couldn't let that go even if he tried
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Not the Anon you're referring to but beta designs for any game can be cool and there's nothing wrong in enjoying them.
[...] >you have no proof to your claims
Spoiler: If an asset is used only during development and then is changed for the final release, its called a placeholder. Maybe you can use these magical things that have buttons and lights comes from a screen where you can type things and get a definition of a word.
That's not how placeholders work. What makes a placeholder a placeholder is the intent of replacing it, but you have no proof that the devs intended to use it specifically as a placeholder.
In fact i say that there's more evidence supporting the opposite due to the design being for Arceus specifically and no other Pokemon has a placeholder as such a thing. If it were a placeholder then it'd be the same placeholder used for every other Pokemon instead of having its own unique design.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>but you have no proof
Neither do you, the FACT that it was replaced makes it a placeholder.
You mean beta Arceus?
The only beta here is you anon
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
A lot of stuff intended to be in games get replaced, doesn't make them placeholders.
If this is the only thing you got as evidence then you got nothing. >He thinks he's in any position of calling anyone else a beta
Says the negative nancy who's been shitting himself the entire thread over a cool design.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>What makes a placeholder a placeholder is the intent of replacing it
your "intended" design only ever got placeholder art drawn in ms paint before it was shitcanned and drastically redesigned
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's a penis.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
How do you know what a penis looks like? Are you gay?
that's not how pokemon design worked until gen V. in gen 1-4 the artists sprited the designs first, and once finalized at the end of development, they made official art. even if it's just a placeholder, it was at one point every bit as much of a pokemon as any other that existed at the time.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>that's not how pokemon design worked until gen V
source: my ass
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You mean like the source of your claim that it's just a placeholder?
A placeholder that some programmer drew in 10 seconds before actual art from the art department arrived isn't a "beta", its a placeholder.
moron fanboys thinking is some kind of masterful inspiration need to know a little about game development.
Yeah hipster kid, "look! I like this design wich was a doodle and meaningless for the overall game development! i'm so fricking cool and unique!"
But placeholders aren't "official" pokemon, so a "fakemon" is a description that fit it perfectly.
>hipster kid calling others pretentious
holy shit my hypocrite meter just went off the charts!
It's Arceus, but reality couldn't handle his divine visage, so Arceus's manifestation was low-fidelity until he updated the world's firmware to support a relatively more accurate depiction (but not fully accurate because we still can't see his 1000 arms and such).
Nice headcannon anon, just like that futurama episode
A lot of stuff intended to be in games get replaced, doesn't make them placeholders.
If this is the only thing you got as evidence then you got nothing. >He thinks he's in any position of calling anyone else a beta
Says the negative nancy who's been shitting himself the entire thread over a cool design.
>A lot of stuff intended to be in games get replaced, doesn't make them placeholders.
That's the literal definition of a placeholder, anon, do you have trouble learning new concepts?
You misunderstand. What i'm saying is that just because something gets replaced doesn't make it a placeholder. If something wasn't intended by the developers to be a placeholder than it isn't a placeholder even if it ends up getting replaced by something else. Designs get changed during developments of products all the time, but that doesn't make those designs placeholders.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>just because something gets replaced doesn't make it a placeholder
If it was during development, it is anon.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Even if it was in development, it still isn't. The design was clearly intended to be used in one way or another. it would have never been made if it wasn't.
And if Arceus had a placeholder it would have been the exact same placeholder for every other Pokemon.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>was clearly intended
Source: My ass again
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Like i said, if it wasn't intended to be used then it would have never been created in the first place.
And again, you're not one to talk about sources when your going off of assumptions.
Not only that but your keeping on failing to actually give an actual rebuttal.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>if it wasn't intended to be used then it would have never been created in the first place
It was intended to be used as a placeholder. Sorry to break your bubble, kiddo.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Like i keep saying, if it was intended to be a placeholder then it wouldn't have had a unique design. Placeholders are the same for every Pokemon, the fact that Arceus' is so unique means it wasn't intended to be a placeholder.
>rebuttal
You haven't post any kind of proof whatsoever, your own opinion doesn't count as proof, mind you, maybe if you try to look up on a dictionary the placeholder definition you would find yourself in the right path.
You're not posting any proof yourself despite that fact that your the first to make such claims and the first to be asked for proof.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The proof is right here
>just because something gets replaced doesn't make it a placeholder
If it was during development, it is anon.
Placeholder = Art used during development that get replaced in the end.
Unless you post an article, interview or some official source about the creation of that placeholder, you're the one posting only opinions.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Placeholder = Art used during development that get replaced in the end.
Small distinction but I thought placeholder meant that is intended to be replaced, not that it does get replaced.
As in, a placeholder can make it to the final product for whatever reason, but it still is a placeholder even if it didn't get replaced.
t. ESL
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah, that arceus doodle was meant to be replaced. Are you done?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm not that other anon, I was just replying to that specific line.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm not that other anon, I was just replying to that specific line.
I humbly accept your concession anon.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
According to the Merriam Webster dictionary of what a placeholder is.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/placeholder >a person or thing that occupies the position or place of another person or thing
That design for Arceus was never intended to occupy the position or place of the Arceus we got as that Arceus didn't exist then.
Not only that but the design was revealed as apart of the 2020 Nintendo leaks that showed off the sprite as an unused beta sprite for Arceus, meaning that it wasn't even replaced, the two coexist, one was just used and the other wasn't. It wasn't even the only beta sprite as multiple beta sprites for Pokemon in Diamond and Pearl were leaked, with a lot of them even resembling the designs in the final product, so they weren't placeholders, they're originally what those Pokemon were going to look like.
Here's the Know Your Meme Pages on the subject.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/beta-arceus
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/beta-regigigas
I know people here might not like the site but it's a good source for this info.
By the way, i can't find the original Ganker threads that revealed this info so if anyone can find them feel free to share the links.
>What makes a placeholder a placeholder is the intent of replacing it
your "intended" design only ever got placeholder art drawn in ms paint before it was shitcanned and drastically redesigned
That doesn't make it a placeholder, that just means the design and concept evolved into something else, as in, not replaced, but improved.
Yeah, that arceus doodle was meant to be replaced. Are you done?
It was never meant to be replaced. If that were true then all of the original designs for the Pokemon were meant to be replaced, but that wouldn't make any sense as multiple of the Pokemon's beta sprites weren't replaced at all.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
So no official information and only more and more opinions... ok, thanks for proving that arceus is a placeholder, definition and all, I will now take your concession.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You don't have anything yourself jackass, just a definition you got form some website.
Meanwhile i used a definition from a trusted dictionary along with bringing up more info into the context that supports the design not being a placeholder.
I brought more proof to this than you've did. Don't cope about it.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>knowyourmeme >proof
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Like i said, it has all the info on the leaks, leaks that came right from Ganker. You're being ignorant on purpose at this point.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>knowyourmeme >proof
You lost.
Concede.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Like i said, it has all the info on the leaks, leaks that came right from Ganker. You're being ignorant on purpose at this point.
They leaks only confirm that a design that was used before launch got replaced with the final version, aka, if you're reading the entire thread, a placeholder.
Thanks for conceding me three times now.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>rebuttal
You haven't post any kind of proof whatsoever, your own opinion doesn't count as proof, mind you, maybe if you try to look up on a dictionary the placeholder definition you would find yourself in the right path.
>Remember I made a post comparing Beta Arceus to the Burning Bush and why that made it a cooler design >See people parrot that opinion in threads later
Guys, I was only partially joking
Someone start.
ok
a shame the fight is such ass
Excellent use of horror, excellent design theory, and it works excellently mechanically both as a boss and as a book. Tomerry was quality work. It's really sad that they didn't wind up that way before getting booked, so now they're out in the City like that.
Shame we didn't get a Page of Tomerry or more Love Town combat pages though.
On an old game call Hunter The Reckoning there is a character call Carpenter. Basically just a zombie wearing rags with a bandaged face but he randomly pop into my mind sometimes. Maybe it is the voice acting and weird ass lines/voices he had but I just really like him as a character.
>a shitty fakemon
It a beta sprite. If you don't know shit about video games then keep your mouth shut else risk making a fool out of yourself. The beta sprites are basically common knowledge nowadays.
Yeah. Exactly. A shitty fakemon.
Not that Anon but frick off it's cool and official.
A placeholder that some programmer drew in 10 seconds before actual art from the art department arrived isn't a "beta", its a placeholder.
moron fanboys thinking is some kind of masterful inspiration need to know a little about game development.
It doesn't matter what it is it still looks cool.
Yeah hipster kid, "look! I like this design wich was a doodle and meaningless for the overall game development! i'm so fricking cool and unique!"
Yes, it is cool. It's otherworldly design is cool. Stop being so pretentious homosexual.
>hipster kid calling others pretentious
holy shit my hypocrite meter just went off the charts!
Nah it looks like shit and the people hyping it up are homosexuals
It looks like an otherworldly being beyond human understanding and it's cool for it.
And if you've been reading the thread then you've should have figured out that just because something gets replaced doesn't make it a placeholder, but you're just too stubborn and all you're doing now is repeating yourself and coping.
>just because something gets replaced doesn't make it a placeholder
That's the literal definition of placeholder, YOU learn to read the thread
Fourth times conceding now! Oh baby!
I already posted the literal definition of a placeholder by Merriam Webster but you're ignoring it as apart of your coping mechanism.
Oh please, i've just been stating rebuttals. If i have been repeating myself then it's only because others have done nothing but repeat themselves first. I at least add onto everything i say.
How does it feel to chew five concedes!
The fact that you have nothing other than "LOL concede!!!" is just a coping mechanism, in fact it's the go to coping mechanism for cowards too afraid to continue a feud because they know they lost.
You're not making yourself look good here, just do yourself a favor and accept your defeat with dignity.
Sixth concede, delicious, keep going anon, the seethe it cause on you knowing you like a random placeholder doodle is pure bliss to me
>repeating yourself
Holy shit no one can be THIS hypocrite
You miss the part where the moron call it a fakemon. How good it is doesn't matter at all, that is subjective. The moronic was objectively wrong and got called out so now he trying to do damage control and failing horribly. People can see pass all of the bullshit, just take the fricking L. It an anonymous image board. Frick off and just try again but less moronic next time.
But placeholders aren't "official" pokemon, so a "fakemon" is a description that fit it perfectly.
The design was created by an actual employees working on an official Pokemon game. The design is official from Game Freak themselves.
I doubt you have any proof that it was meant to be just a place holder.
>No actual rebuttal
Might as well admit that i'm right at this point.
>I doubt you have any proof that it was meant to be just a place holder
You don't have proof to the contrary
>No rebuttal to my opinion
kek
And you have no proof to your claims. That alone is enough proof for me that such claims are just an assumption.
And yes, i did rebuttal that "opinion". I already said multiple times that it doesn't matter what it is the design is cool.
>you have no proof to your claims
Spoiler: If an asset is used only during development and then is changed for the final release, its called a placeholder. Maybe you can use these magical things that have buttons and lights comes from a screen where you can type things and get a definition of a word.
He's one of those bizarre breeds of pokegay that are more autistic than rest and will throw fits whenever they see beta pokemon. He couldn't let that go even if he tried
Not the Anon you're referring to but beta designs for any game can be cool and there's nothing wrong in enjoying them.
That's not how placeholders work. What makes a placeholder a placeholder is the intent of replacing it, but you have no proof that the devs intended to use it specifically as a placeholder.
In fact i say that there's more evidence supporting the opposite due to the design being for Arceus specifically and no other Pokemon has a placeholder as such a thing. If it were a placeholder then it'd be the same placeholder used for every other Pokemon instead of having its own unique design.
>but you have no proof
Neither do you, the FACT that it was replaced makes it a placeholder.
The only beta here is you anon
A lot of stuff intended to be in games get replaced, doesn't make them placeholders.
If this is the only thing you got as evidence then you got nothing.
>He thinks he's in any position of calling anyone else a beta
Says the negative nancy who's been shitting himself the entire thread over a cool design.
>What makes a placeholder a placeholder is the intent of replacing it
your "intended" design only ever got placeholder art drawn in ms paint before it was shitcanned and drastically redesigned
That's a penis.
How do you know what a penis looks like? Are you gay?
b***h look down, you got one too.
that's not how pokemon design worked until gen V. in gen 1-4 the artists sprited the designs first, and once finalized at the end of development, they made official art. even if it's just a placeholder, it was at one point every bit as much of a pokemon as any other that existed at the time.
>that's not how pokemon design worked until gen V
source: my ass
You mean like the source of your claim that it's just a placeholder?
You were filtered. Sorry.
>Calling Arceus fake
*tips fedora*
You mean, Arceus placeholder?
Nice trips
You mean beta Arceus?
It's Arceus, but reality couldn't handle his divine visage, so Arceus's manifestation was low-fidelity until he updated the world's firmware to support a relatively more accurate depiction (but not fully accurate because we still can't see his 1000 arms and such).
Nice headcannon anon, just like that futurama episode
>A lot of stuff intended to be in games get replaced, doesn't make them placeholders.
That's the literal definition of a placeholder, anon, do you have trouble learning new concepts?
You misunderstand. What i'm saying is that just because something gets replaced doesn't make it a placeholder. If something wasn't intended by the developers to be a placeholder than it isn't a placeholder even if it ends up getting replaced by something else. Designs get changed during developments of products all the time, but that doesn't make those designs placeholders.
>just because something gets replaced doesn't make it a placeholder
If it was during development, it is anon.
Even if it was in development, it still isn't. The design was clearly intended to be used in one way or another. it would have never been made if it wasn't.
And if Arceus had a placeholder it would have been the exact same placeholder for every other Pokemon.
>was clearly intended
Source: My ass again
Like i said, if it wasn't intended to be used then it would have never been created in the first place.
And again, you're not one to talk about sources when your going off of assumptions.
Not only that but your keeping on failing to actually give an actual rebuttal.
>if it wasn't intended to be used then it would have never been created in the first place
It was intended to be used as a placeholder. Sorry to break your bubble, kiddo.
Like i keep saying, if it was intended to be a placeholder then it wouldn't have had a unique design. Placeholders are the same for every Pokemon, the fact that Arceus' is so unique means it wasn't intended to be a placeholder.
You're not posting any proof yourself despite that fact that your the first to make such claims and the first to be asked for proof.
The proof is right here
Placeholder = Art used during development that get replaced in the end.
Unless you post an article, interview or some official source about the creation of that placeholder, you're the one posting only opinions.
>Placeholder = Art used during development that get replaced in the end.
Small distinction but I thought placeholder meant that is intended to be replaced, not that it does get replaced.
As in, a placeholder can make it to the final product for whatever reason, but it still is a placeholder even if it didn't get replaced.
t. ESL
Yeah, that arceus doodle was meant to be replaced. Are you done?
I'm not that other anon, I was just replying to that specific line.
I humbly accept your concession anon.
According to the Merriam Webster dictionary of what a placeholder is.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/placeholder
>a person or thing that occupies the position or place of another person or thing
That design for Arceus was never intended to occupy the position or place of the Arceus we got as that Arceus didn't exist then.
Not only that but the design was revealed as apart of the 2020 Nintendo leaks that showed off the sprite as an unused beta sprite for Arceus, meaning that it wasn't even replaced, the two coexist, one was just used and the other wasn't. It wasn't even the only beta sprite as multiple beta sprites for Pokemon in Diamond and Pearl were leaked, with a lot of them even resembling the designs in the final product, so they weren't placeholders, they're originally what those Pokemon were going to look like.
Here's the Know Your Meme Pages on the subject.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/beta-arceus
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/beta-regigigas
I know people here might not like the site but it's a good source for this info.
By the way, i can't find the original Ganker threads that revealed this info so if anyone can find them feel free to share the links.
That doesn't make it a placeholder, that just means the design and concept evolved into something else, as in, not replaced, but improved.
It was never meant to be replaced. If that were true then all of the original designs for the Pokemon were meant to be replaced, but that wouldn't make any sense as multiple of the Pokemon's beta sprites weren't replaced at all.
So no official information and only more and more opinions... ok, thanks for proving that arceus is a placeholder, definition and all, I will now take your concession.
You don't have anything yourself jackass, just a definition you got form some website.
Meanwhile i used a definition from a trusted dictionary along with bringing up more info into the context that supports the design not being a placeholder.
I brought more proof to this than you've did. Don't cope about it.
>knowyourmeme
>proof
Like i said, it has all the info on the leaks, leaks that came right from Ganker. You're being ignorant on purpose at this point.
You lost.
Concede.
They leaks only confirm that a design that was used before launch got replaced with the final version, aka, if you're reading the entire thread, a placeholder.
Thanks for conceding me three times now.
>rebuttal
You haven't post any kind of proof whatsoever, your own opinion doesn't count as proof, mind you, maybe if you try to look up on a dictionary the placeholder definition you would find yourself in the right path.
Literally just Godzilla if he were a T.Rex, but it's still the best hybrid(?) that Jurassic Park/World has shit out since the Ultimasaurus.
Kino. What game is this?
baldur's gate 3
Resident Evil 2.
I still think to this day that Birkin's designs is super cool.
i like cute monsters
>Remember I made a post comparing Beta Arceus to the Burning Bush and why that made it a cooler design
>See people parrot that opinion in threads later
Guys, I was only partially joking
>Burning Bush
???
Old Testament
Basically the form God appeared in front of Moses