Learning Language apps for phones

Dunno if this can go here, but how many of you use Duolingo or other language learning apps/games?
Been using it for a few months to practice Japanese and I like the app, as someone who's been learning Japanese from Minna no Nihongo (rn im on the Chuukyuu books) its a nice way to review what I have learned so far.
>NGMI
I know doesn't stop me from at least enjoying the experience
>Use Anki instead
I used it for a while but I didn't like it

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  1. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Recommended generic language apps
    Memrise, Drops, LingoDeer, Mondly, these really helped me set a base to the language, especially the first one

    >Japanese specific apps
    Bunpo.
    That's it. This one's really good and will give you a 80% of Japanese grammar.

    >For Kanji
    Kanji study, any other isn't worth paying/trying

    >Games
    For phone I don't think there's any (good) one, but there is Learn Japanese to survive!, noun town, and, to be released this year, sashingo, shujinkou, nihongo quest...

    >Dictionaries
    For android the best one is probably Takoboto, for iOS imiwa? and for desktop online Jisho.org and offline Tagaini Jisho

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Kanji study, any other isn't worth paying/trying
      Sorry if this is a stupid question but which "kanji study" app are you referring to? Pic related shows a couple with similar names from the play store.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        forget about stupid apps. read this https://tatsumoto-ren.github.io/blog/learning-kanji.html
        (kanji study is a beginner trap, it won't tech you anything useful)

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >kanji study is a beginner trap
          That's a load of horseshit that's often spread on this website.
          Whether you need to study kanji by themselves or not is highly personal. I tried learning kanji via words myself and failed, and I've seen a fair number of people end up in the same boat. Not every brain can just "accept" kanji.
          On the other hand, getting through the common 1-2k first finally rewired my brain enough to proceed with the studies. And it gave me an initial boost for vocabulary learning, too - as you know a lot of single-kanji words automatically (and can guess the meaning and reading of a fair amount of double-kanji ones).
          Of course that last part is only if you included other metadata other than just "picture - meaning", as the "meanings" assigned to kanji by study materials are largely made up things. For me personally, symbol, kun/on reading, meaning worked. A big part is also mnemonics that you make for yourself, they're a very useful crutch in the beginning (and will just fall off by themselves once you're further into your studies).
          That is not to say that going the vocab first route (or, hell, full immersion) is a bad option somehow - no, if you can actually do it, it will likely be a faster way to learn. But not everyone can do it, and you shouldn't force yourself if it doesn't work for you, as it will only backfire in that case.

  2. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    iMina is pretty good, it has both of Minna no Nihongo 1 and 2's grammar and vocabulary lessons along with cards and quizzes.

  3. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    ringotan is pretty solid for kanji

  4. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    I used bunpro and wanikani for Japanese which were good to kickstart things but I wouldn't spend more than a month on them before switching to native material and making personal anki cards.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      about wanikani: https://tatsumoto-ren.github.io/blog/what-are-the-downsides-of-using-wanikani.html

  5. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, all apps suck. Before you start, read https://tatsumoto-ren.github.io/

  6. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    YouTube is one of the best. Cure Dolly's japanese from scratch is a great japanese for dummies intro that's broken up into short 5-20 minute videos that focuses more on how the basics work instead of rote memorization. The downside is she's fricking dead but she covers a lot of the groundwork that you need to start learning on your own.

  7. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Duolingo has some hilarious ads.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It's literally called dragon ball
      They're not even trying to hide it lol

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      bro just use the website that way you can use adblock

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        The phone version has those timed challenges for big exp gains that i like (not because of the exp, but because i use them as reviews for what i learned so far).
        I also find the ads hilarious, recently I got one of those bootleg gachas full of titty girls.

  8. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just lost my over 200 day streak. I finished Latin that I wanted, I was just keeping with random languages to keep the number up, so now I have no reason to go back.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      daily streak shits are non sense. i just wanna learn.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are there any like these for Korean?

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't attempt lessons. Unlock units directly.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is it better to do so? I’m doing one to two lessons a day so to always progress, if I jump right to the end what do I do?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >if I jump right to the end what do I do?
        You uninstall duolingo and read a book.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    what league are you guys on?
    I swear the top 7 are bots because the ranking goes from 1200 to 2000 so quickly.

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You CANNOT learn anything from your phone, let alone something as demanding as a language

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