>d4 has no map overlay
>d4 doesnt have shared characters stash
>d4 doesn’t have trading for most things
>d4 doesnt have crafting
>d4 doesnt have chase unique items
>d4 is slow as frick
>d4 is as deep complex as a water puddle
>d4 cost $70
>d4 has $20 early access
>d4 has battlepass
>d4 has mtx shop
>d4 bosses are underwhelming
>d4 has no global chat
>d4 the only progression level 50+ is paragon board (+5 str/int/dex)
bro all you need to list is IT'S FREE TO TRY
PoE is shit
Diablo 4 is diarrhea
Why bother playing either?
Because shit is solid enough to be molded into something.
but enough about india.
why play any of these two turds when grimdawn, last epoch, old diablos, titans quest and even wolcen exist? you don't need an always online connection to play the games i mentioned, if you want always online pick up the mail.ru version of lost ark because the characters weren't uglified to hell.
You can mold it, put golden flakes on it and spray it with perfume but it will always be shit
Would you still be upset if it was a gold-plated statue of shit?
Still shit
But it's GLORIOUS shit!
A firm shit is a sign of good health, diarrhea is a sign of bad health. Checkmate feces allegory gay.
how long have you played Path of Exile for and have you played it with a friend? We really like it and we're killing Alira, Kraityn and Oak right now.
Taking a shit is good for you though, while diarrhea is not. Could've used a better analogy.
>food analogy
>D4 is made by Blizzard and published by Activision
PoE 2 doesnt exist
even Grim Dawn is better than D4
>no map overlay
I feel like that was a thing in D3 or am I tripping?
>no shared stash
I feel like that was also a thing in D3.
They were, I bet Blizzard will sell them in one of their expansion packs.
>take something away
>sell it back
>everyone and their dogs praise you
Not sure why people compare these two games, Diablo IV is closer to Lost Ark than PoE.
Even then... D4 got completely mogged by Lost Ark.
Imagine if Lost Ark only had Chaos Dungeons, 3 World Bosses and a few Una Dailies, that's D4. Embarrassing show from Blizzard.
Blizzard is currently doing stealth nerfs, completely gutting classes, sometimes by 2/3rds of their efficiency in the middle of a RACE EVENT.
The people managing this game have absolutely no clue what they're doing, the people who think these morons can manage a healthy "Game as a Service" are beyond hope.
>The people managing this game have absolutely no clue what they're doing
I knew this the moment when they somehow managed to piss off people by making their FOMO beta horn event last only 2 days instead of the advertised 3 and pissed off a bunch of people that were expecting to have the 3rd day to get it. Even the shittiest gachas have long since figured out you don't FOMO that hard.
Blizzard is clueless and it shows.
>its d3 launch all over again but this time with an in-game shop like in the worst of f2p titles
lmaoooooooo
>real money auction house
honestly, what the frick were they thinking? I can't believe they even had the balls to try it
>Blizzard is currently doing stealth nerfs, completely gutting classes, sometimes by 2/3rds of their efficiency in the middle of a RACE EVENT.
Jesus fricking christ. This is embarassing
>Lost Ark.
Im not playing your chink game that you need to grind for 1000000000000 hours for and/or spend hundreds of dollars to get competitive. Sorry champ.
>he doesn't know the paid BP has more tiers which means more obol income than the free BP
This shit is P2W too moron.
Lost Ark is a weeb trash though. Diablo 4 has good art direction and that alone makes it a better game.
As someone that played both games recently as newb one after the other, there isn't a single thing that D4 does better than PoE outside of graphics and I guess PvP. They're not even in the same league.
D4 botched it. The technical aspects are great, as usual. Don't know why those tech guys don't look for better creative opportunities elsewhere. Blizzard must pay them a hefty sum.
The game is completely empty after the campaign.
PoE has TRASH balance and gameplay, the endgame quickly devolves into running around and smashing one key infinitely. Bad gameplay kills the game's potential.
Oh boy wait until you hear about D4's end game. Or does repeatedly smashing one key more times per pack make for better gameplay?
lol you've never played PoE.
the very first thing you do is grab an OP ability gem
atleast in D4 there's some thought put into how each character is supposed to play
heh, and what thought?
>the very first thing you do is grab an OP ability gem
Is this a bot post?
PoE has quite a variety of builds for every class, and there are no OP skills on their own.
>everyone who styles on me is abot
ngmi
PoE has the thrill of finding rare currency and there is a ton of it. That combined with the cool skill socketing system just mogs D4. I'm a PoE newb though so maybe people that have played the game to death find D4 refreshing but to me, D4 is boring as frick in comparison with no end game. Hunting down shrines isn't an end game. The world bosses are an absolute joke. Even D2 has ubers.
Trust me as a PoE veteran with 5000 hours i agree with you, D4 seems lame as frick. I got to level 60 and im not sure i wanna keep going, there seems so little that can potentially drop, i just ask myself whats the actual goal for me?
The thing that is genius about PoE is that it has 1) multitude of currencies ranging in variery and 2) trading
That means no matter your current level or knowledge of the game you can farm currency appropriate to your build level and trade with others for better gear. It means theres always something to do. The lack of any reason to do anything in D4 is so painfully similar to D3 and greater rifts. Its like they’ve learned nothing
Every single PoE player plays the game for the "currencies" aka casino tokens.
You're all braindead slotmachine addicts.
You grab the overpowered meta gems baldy has designated as good for the season and immediately trivialize the entire game and start the lever pulling (single button pressing)
There's absolutely no gameplay or strategy other than trying to get more gambling tokens to drop beyond that point, so you can do your dance bosses to say you're "good"
>You're all braindead slotmachine addicts.
>You grab the overpowered meta skills designated as good for the season and immediately trivialize the entire game and start the lever pulling (single button pressing)
>There's absolutely no gameplay or strategy other than trying to get better gear to drop beyond that point, so you can do your dance bosses to say you're "good"
Congratulations on describing every ARPG in existence.
D1, D2 and D3 didn't look so shitty.
Most people dont craft their gear. Its deterministic in most ways.
>i want mageblood, i need to farm 200 divs
>i want headhunter, i need to farm 100 divs
>i want a specific cluster israeliteel, i have to farm X divs
There is no casino involved
Not that anon, and I know this is a tough redpill for you to swallow, but ALL arpgs are just slot machines. The scarcity of the tokens combined with their potential impact on a build from a power standpoint is what differentiates good ARPGs from bad ones. D4 doesn't have enough tokens and the ones it does have are kind of shitty and very freely handed out.
Those are all online casino methods and tactics to get you hooked. I don't understand the appeal, unless you simply like gambling coated as a video game.
Maybe I'm more of a twin stick shooter guy today, but poe is just too aggressive rng casino today with an endless carrot on a stick for neet homosexuals who simply want to grind their lives away.
Trading is antithetical to the ARPG genre. People forget that Diablo III launched with both a real money and gold based auction house. Both were axed with the expansion because they ruin the game. If you can just buy your gear then there is no reason to play.
D3 was only good because it had RMAH so you could make money off of it. Rest of the game was pure dogwater.
Turd worlder mindset. If you wanna make money, try getting a job.
How new are you to the genre? You must be a homosexual who just came to poe very late, never played any other games of the genre, neither that came out before, nor after. You probably came two or three years ago to poe at best. No other way to come up with such moronic things.
Bait, zoomer, or moron.
Pick your poison.
include me in the screen picture.
> I love freemium currencies.
Take it down a notch. You're being too obvious.
I get excited when an exalt drops in the same way that I get excited for bers, ohms, jahs, los, etc. Nothing in D3 and D4 gives me that feeling. That's what drives the addiction for a lot of ARPG fans.
Why are you pretending? Most of that currency is hidden behind a paywall. Lie better, not harder.
I'm new to PoE so I'm not aware of any currency hidden behind a paywall. There are stash tabs that almost feel mandatory but I haven't jumped the gun yet. I've defaulted to only keeping the most valuable stuff for my build due to limited space.
>There are stash tabs that almost feel mandatory
Uniques and Currency tabs are mandatory if you are going to grind.
I guess it depends on how long you expect to grind. Is there really much of a point doing it once you hit level 100? I'm already level 96 and doing yellow t16 maps. There is a ton of end game stuff that I haven't done but a lot of it I don't actually enjoy doing (such as the tower defense blight bullshit as one example). Also, I'm already getting a bit bored. I'll be back for next season though.
I remember when I was new to PoE i would also quit fairly quickly. The main way to stick around is to have a solid goal. Either a chase item, or a particular type of item you want to farm efficiently. Just playing mindlessly gets boring fast
>such as the tower defense blight bullshit as one example
I used to hate blight until I realised I can just spam slow towers and tank minions to hinder the spawn waves as much as possible while I kill everything with my own skills.
THAT IS LITERALLY EVERY FRICKING ARPG EVER MADE EVEN D2
>PoE has trash balance
As someone who has never once played the meta, I have done all the content the game has to offer with some of the most moronic build ideas. I was literally the #2 ascendant in HC doing a build with Nuro's Harp for one league. The game's balance is generally fantastic.
Nothing you did has anything to do with balance, your shit build was half as functional if not less than other builds
and?
The trash balance is what makes it fun though
>wormblaster crashed server and got nerfed 4 times already
>t. brainlet new to ARPGs
The funny part of this sort of tribalism is both games are shit.
>my mtx good your mtx bad
my game free and mtx optional, your game 70USD with multiple levels of battlepass and cash shop
they're like totally the same thing mayne
Both are a plague upon gaming which should not be defended by anyone except brain rotted tribalistic homosexuals.
>My heart cancer isn't as bad as your brain cancer!
SO TRUE!!!!
I got like 200 hours out of PoE before I dropped like $20 on some stash tabs
sounds like a you problem
good goy
make sure you reup your battlepass dude, your levels are falling behind
To be fair, the issue is far worse now than it used to be. Div cards were the first reason I ended up buying tabs.
Yeah that's fair, when I started putting heaps of time into the game around perandus there wasn't much except essences and currency that needed bulk collection but now if you just treat the game as a $20-30 game instead of a free one you'll still have a way better time than in D4 for $70
>GGG shills going HAM with the damage control after getting eternally btfo by the Kings at Blizzard
You love to see it!
>d4 is slow as frick
but that's a good thing
everyone's fricking tired of zoom-zooming clearing rooms in half a second
That's nonsense. People want to zoom. This is a case of either a vocal minority talking nonsense or the player base not knowing what they actually want and talking nonsense.
The ruthless experiment already confirmed that this was a small but vocal minority oppinion
chris won
Those two games have nothing in common besides a superficial shared arpg label and are not even in competition. Shitty shill falseflag thread, have a nice day.
>one of the most homogenized genres in gaming
>shared artificial arpg label
THEY JUST RELEASED IMMEDIATE PATCH NOTES. MULTIPLE CLASSES NERFED. IT'S OVER
https://streamable.com/5kdzjb
Don't touch my Argie-fu
>shop is trying to show you thing you want to buy
Nice game
nicu
>https://streamable.com/5kdzjb
someone make a Battle Pass/Shop edit counters, BP on the lower right, shop on lower left.
But POE is free, just play both or with your APRG of choice, there's plenty out there now.
Didn’t read. Also, PoE is boring and ugly, frick off.
>PoE is ugly
D4 is a colorless mess. I haven't seen an ARPG that looked more repulsive than that.
>Where’s my heckin vibrant colors in my dark fantasy horror game?
you can have color in a dark fantasy game
>dark fantasy horror game
>That music
Bro, out of all the things you could've legitimately, correctly complained about, you chose to complain that D4 finally went back to a gloomy dark atmosphere like what D3 should've had in the first place.
>gloomy dark atmosphere
It's not "dark", it's fricking gray. It's like they made a normal picture and then put Contrast to 50%.
Still better than the rainbows of D3, but yeah, they should play around with the contrast and gamma a bit, could definitely use some tweaking.
Lol, the game is out and has obviously been greenlit to look fine. We're way past the "they should..." visual suggestions.
This.
Blizzard STILL doesn't fricking get it after all the D3 backlash.
>d4 doesn’t have shared character stash
That’s literally the only kind of stash that it has.
>PoE2
That's not a thing OP. And the fact that you feel the need to shill your dead game speaks more to it than the newest blizzslop.
They're releasing Trailer 3 in a few days at Games Fest.
You will regret your words and deeds.
Why? It's not a thing so it's pointless claiming it will be better than D4. Use the actual PoE for your shitposting, but you won't because everyone has caught on by now to that game's own many issues and arguably even worse mtx practices.
Path of mobile phone finally getting another trailer...
I played the D4 beta and server slam. I've played PoE. Neither comes close to Grim Dawn. You're wasting your time.
>d4 has no map overlay
Does it make the game bad? No.
>d4 doesnt have shared characters stash
Does it make the game bad? No.
>d4 doesn’t have trading for most things
Does it make the game bad? No.
>d4 doesnt have crafting
Does it make the game bad? No.
>d4 doesnt have chase unique items
Not even true, why lie on the internet?
>d4 is slow as frick
Why lie on the internet?
>d4 is as deep complex as a water puddle
Why lie on the internet?
>d4 cost $70
Does it make the game bad? No.
>d4 has $20 early access
Does it make the game bad? No.
>d4 has battlepass
Does it make the game bad? No.
>d4 has mtx shop
Does it make the game bad? No.
>d4 bosses are underwhelming
Why lie on the internet?
>d4 has no global chat
Does it make the game bad? No.
>d4 the only progression level 50+ is paragon board (+5 str/int/dex)
Does it make the game bad? No.
It's like you have set out on a holy crusade, determined against all possible odds, that you will hate playing video games, and you are succeeding. Good job, I guess?
What a miserable existence is yours.
a lot of that does make the game bad yes
Literally none of those things make the game bad, no.
>no trading
yeah this kills d4 alone gayot
It, in fact, doesn't kill D4.
Can't kill whats already dead.
But you can kill zombies
>shill responding to shill
>no actual argument has been exchanged, just a "game shit" and "not true lol" back and forth
The absolute state of this garbage board.
The absolute state of this garbage board is hating on video games for nonsense reasons I have listed. How strange, how come I have to provide reasons, but you do not have to, just say whatever nonsense and pretend it makes games shit..."because it does, ok"? Not how the real world works, chud.
moron
It's for you.
Got a call from my dad in the middle of the day for no reason, he ONLY called me to talk about how he spent $90 on the deluxe pack thing for the early access, specifically to play with co-workers instead of putting the money towards a gun so we can go to the range together... [spoiler];_;[/spoiler], and he spent half the call talking about D4 like it's some MMO, I kinda tuned him out after a while until we finally got back to topics I care about.
Chris Wilson is legitimately the only person who understands this genre.
The pillars of lies and deception to fool armchair intellectuals.
>shows pillars that have already crumbled and collapsed
what did he mean by this?
>he put "muh trade economy" as one of the pillars
Bald
Fricking
moron
you're giving the guy who just copied d2, medianxl and whatever final fantasy game had the gem system a little too much credit
>"muh economy" is the pillar of the genre!
>says a 40yo man still chasing the fun he had as a kid playing D2, which he will never get because he will never be a kid again
>and his prepubescent shitter ass traded for gear so it MUST be the core of the design of the genre
diablo is better poe is trash
So hows the D4 endgame looking?
I love this trailer, it's exactly the atmosphere and aesthetics I like and it's only 1 of 7 new acts. This game is gonna be kino.
I wish it was a new game instead of just some new campaign in the same game, poe really needs it with how jank their shit is.
Poe is too frickin complex. I read tipps/tricks, I watched videos about meta builds, i read through the wikis and I STILL fricked up my build and got fricked sideways because I didnt use an online calculator website for the dps
>duh, of course you dont go for dodge
>duh, of course you dont go for poison
>try any build you want. No, not that build. No, not that one either. No, dont make your own builds, try these cookiecutter builds instead
Great, nothing better than a game about making a character build where you cant make your character build until youve finished the game a couple of times and spent a shitton of hours studying the game mechanics
Nah. The diablo2 fix I craved which neither diablo2 or poe was able to give was finally delivered by Grim Dawn last year and its good enough that I will replay it someday
They're trying to resolve this for new players in Poo2 with a bunch of new QoL stuff to make it easier to build your character, especially early on in the campaign, should be hard to near impossible to completely brick you build.
Just hold out grug bro, should only be a few more months.
That sounds promising, Ill keep an eye on that, thank you
For me thats the whole point of these games: working on your own build. I dont have the patience to invest weeks into a game until I eventually have fun
Just to make it clear, you are able to make your build but you wont be able to do all the hardest content with your own build unless you're very knowledgeable. Thats the draw of PoE, very high skill ceiling and floor
Thats alright for me. Its just that I sucked balls by simply playing through the regular campaign lol
Was barely any fun sadly, but lets see about poe2
Toughest part for me was becoming knowledgeable about gear. I feel if you know how to craft top tier items you will be able to push any build you want to play into endgame viable territory. However if you don't understand your gearing options and refuse to use the crafting options like essences at your disposal you will become stuck very very quickly.
poe is trash it's just min maxing bs and the leagues don't do anything for me either. the whole premise of poe is grabage
Making your own builds in PoE is possible, it just requires an extreme amount of dedication and years of playing the game. Its a tough pill to swallow but its not suitable for new players to make builds, atleast not unless they want to tackle all the endgame content
>it gets good after 400 hours bro
Its good before that but do you expect to master a game within 100 hours?
it's a blessing and a curse, it filters out morons but it also filters out people that genuinely want to get into the game, it's genuinely not that complicated and you really don't need pob for anything other than planning where you are gonna go on the tree.
also you're probably gonna get this a lot but i genuinely recommend looking at a guide, pohx has an amazing guide from start to finish with righteous fire and if you want to learn a lot about the game from leveling to crafting it's super helpful.
Anyone defending PoE religiously is a homosexual who came 2019+ to the game. Completely hooked up on the online casino, and has never tried any other games in the genre.
i have fun in D4 🙂
One is a Diablo game, the other isn‘t
Having not played either and not played an isometric ARPG since Diablo II besides the ones from Supergiant. Which one is more atmospheric and immersive? Take note that gameplay contributes to this as much as the setting, art design etc.
>look mom, I play the obscure game instead of the popular mainstream one, i'm edgy and hardcore! look at this big skill tree that i don't even engage with because i use a build guide, i'm playing the big boys game!
No one is impressed and you will never see a vegana in your entire life.
>poe
>obscure
come on lol
PoE is the underdog while Diablo is the big bad AAA game made by the big bad greedy company.
Bro, poe is backed by one of the biggest financial investors. They haven't been your small bro tier indie developer from Auckland for at least six years.
So among the ARPG, which do you like best
>Grim Dawn
>Torchlight
>Diablo
>PoE
>Wolcen
>Titan Quest
I really like Last Epoch systems, but the endgame just isnt there right now, but im very much looking forward the development there. Of the others you listed its only PoE
Last Epoc
Very flawed game with how mob scarcity works.
Diablo 2
Grim Dawn
Path of Exile
Torchlight
Diablo 3
Titan Quest 1-4
every other ARPG sucks ass
Shit, Diablo 3 already sucks but it's fun for a casual coop with friends and Titan Quest is boring, but had enough interesting ideas to be somewhat enjoyable
>Grim Dawn
All built end with spamming skills and face tank the bosses with very little skill rotation
>Wolcen
Too many fricking bugs.
Grim Dawn
Grim Yawn is fine with speedhack
Torchlight with mods if pure fun for a little while
Diablo aged like milk
PoE is great all the way till end game
Wolcen is pure garbage
Titan Quest solid classic is decent new expansions
Lost Epoch is another pure garbage, PoE with no content
I would also mention various single player games but they are mostly one and done type where you play main story, quite a lot of them are fine as well
Wolcen have pretty combat system and skill system. They should probably simplify what the frick does every stats do (WTF is aligment change modifier? Orcust damage?)
>PoE is great all the way till end game
what do you consider endgame in poe? cause i feel like mapping for a little bit is fun but it does get kinda boring, but i also like bossing a lot but getting to said bosses is a slog if you want to do them multiple times.
Not endgame until you have a Headhunter or Mageblood.
I won't enable people to get on BFR's hot & wild ride.
>Torchlight with mods if pure fun for a little while
1, 2 or 3?
Grim Dawn and D2. I didn't like Titan Quest at all.
But the above 2 share a basic quality that is lost, they're not always online.
PoE is too much tradecore for my taste and it it's deliberately ugly as sin, on top of which the gays with horrendous paid cosmetics makes it doubly repellent to me.
The rest I didn't try
Diablo 3 > FATE > Diablo 1 > Torchlight 1 >> Immortal > Diablo 2 > Minecraft Dungeons > Path of Exile >>> the rest > Diablo 4
Only difference between the two is PoE players weigh about 200lbs more than the average d4 player.
>>d4 has mtx shop
And POE doesn't?
Diablo is not f2p.
its p2p
pay to pay
PoE isnt f2p either. The game basically forces you to buy stash tabs. They intentionally makes monsters drop 21378973128 different currencies and items so you HAVE to buy stashes. They literally created a problem so they could sell the solution.
there's not even a stash? what the frick
psst hey kid
the OP is a lying homosexual shill
of course there’s a shared stash
It makes me so depressed knowing diablo 3 is the last 'good' arpg where you can play casually, have fun and not worry too much about your build being optimal
PoE is fun until you reach endless map grinding
Diablo 4 plays like Diablo 3 except slower just to make it look more strategical and old school than the arcade Diablo 3 was
>Diablo 3
lol
Zoom zoom
PoE isn't even a Metacritic Must-Play. Cope.
Almost all of your points are either in favor of D4 or outright lies. For example paragon board has its own unique affixes like legendaries. Overlay map trannies get the rope.
grim dawn > pathetic exile > dragonqueenblo 4
Grim Dawn is better than both because it's not always online
Mid game and campaing are good. Secret bosses and end games is the most boring shit I've ever played.
>make fast clear build
>start farming maps in PoE
>clear maps for a whole week
>let's see what can I buy with what I farmed
>look at prices and at the value of my currencies
>mfw
>"I don't understand the economy or what type of items are valuable, and I ignored the week 1 rush where I could have made several exalts trading chase items or upgrades to mappers"
>hmm okay I farmed pure currency for a week, just like everyone else, now its time to see what my hard earned chaos can get me...
>(everything is expensive because you did the same thing as everyone else)
many such cases
the trick in POE is to set filters that will net you valuable items for the league, while playing a less common build where you don't need those items for yourself
Filters don't guarantee you'll get valuable drops. Tell everyone how much time you need to understand and learn what actually could be sold and is valuable when market is filled with scammers and 99.99999999% of trash items. No way anyone learns that even in a month.
>Filters don't guarantee you'll get valuable drops.
I didn't say they did. The implication of using a filter is that it lets you more easily identify drops which might be valuable in the current league, and not miss out based on volume of shit to sort through.
>Tell everyone how much time you need to understand and learn what actually could be sold
A modicum of game knowledge, perhaps after 30~ ish hours of enjoying the game and participating in the economy you would understand what makes an item good for certain builds. This is not a serious time investment, and would happen organically if you like the game and are into it.
If you are 110 iq you can simply browse trading sites to see what type of items are valuable and moving quickly, and then set your filters accordingly. This is not complicated. If it sounds like 'too much work'....congratulations, you just discovered why its lucrative.
why do that when I could just play the stock market and make real money? I'm trying to play a video game here
The trick in POE is to not play it in the first place. The game, the drops and the character building are completely crippled in order to please tradecucks and tryhard group farmers.
tons of people enjoy SSF and SSFHC, rendering your criticism without merit
softcore trade league is always going to be about trading, and you can either decide to be good at it or accept that things will be expensive and inflated or skip out and do your own thing (SSF) which has its own challenges
Not that anon but I didn't find the drops bad at all. Then again, I was used to Diablo 2 when I first played PoE. If I tried jumping from Diablo 3 (or Diablo 4) to PoE, I'd probably have a terrible time with it.
b***h please. You're probably trash at the game. Did you even get to maps?
>the only hope for PoE was D4 being good so GGG would have some actual competition and have to try again
>blizzshart couldn't even do that right
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Your first mistake was thinking GGG are devoid of ego and don't want to completely humiliate Blizzard.
You're not prepared for whats coming, no one is.
Chris' Vision™ cannot be stopped.
It's unironically over
So how is D4 actually? Is it good? Alright? Meh? Bad? Shit?
I haven't played a Diablo game since 2 and I don't plan to play 4 either, but I'm just curious.
it's quite possibly the most boring and safe game i've ever played in my entire life, it's like a bunch of suits sat in a room with their heads down in shame cause they took too much breast milk and had to come up with a way to not make anyone angry.
You ever decide to buy a game that all of your friends tell you is good, play it for a bit and decide it's okay, but once you beat it you kind of put it down and never think about it ever again? That's Diablo 4 and they're trying to convince people to play it for years with paid DLCs and other such bullshit.
I enjoyed diablo 4 but will probably never ever touch it ever again. the endgame sucks
D4 is actually good though.
proof that supports your claim?
>a lot of people play it
not proof
D4 is better because it makes tge f2p leeches seethe.
Your game is for autists that sits in their hideout while playing PoB and trade RMT items.
The only reason you throw a tantrum is because you 3rd worlders need the white wiener to save you.
Interesting you claim that, because 8/10 top streamers playing this game on twitch right now are from some country with gibberish poopoo skin people language.
I saw the cutscenes and holy shit what a boring nothingburger.
Sure PoE is superior, but I have over 10,000h in the game and the last several leagues have been shit and I just want something to play.
This is what MMO addiction looks like. The addict is willing to consume any old slop if it stimulates those burnt out neurons.
The game is a pretty solid 6.5/10. I've played every other ARPG on the market, and this is new and fresh. Wish Last Epoch wasn't so terrible because it has some good ideas.
I'm not a fan of Diablo 4 at all and I can still agree that it's a 6.5/10. To me, playing the Dragon Quest 2 of ARPGs doesn't sound like a very good time outside of beating the game once and never thinking about it again. I couldn't see myself putting 100 hours into it much less 10,000.
>entire game is just extended preamble for bringing back the prime evils
>which you will fight in post-game DLC
>lillith was just a last moment "le you thought i was bad but ackchually i was saving you from the biggerer bad" because blizzard cant write to save their lives
Jesus christ
Both have no cute asian girls, both are dogshit.
diablo is a shit poe-like, still worth it though, peace
I always felt like median xl had one of the best approachs to the end game of any arpg and I'm not really sure why no one ever copied. going through end game zones in a certain order and having to unlock is great and gives another sense of progression to the game.
other arpgs are just content to let you just kill the same shit over and over again ad nauseam
The best ARPG to this day has no end game, and its Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance 2
Listen here you fricking nerd.
>Demons go squish. My neurons go bang. Haha me have fun.
Take your turbo autist
>muh complex spreadsheet min maxing
shove it up your dickhole and go back to poe
Literal troon NPC. I dunno why expected anything else
Terrible game run by a BFR. Blizzard isn't any better.
You forgot to post your pasta wowtroon
>PoE is a 10 year old game, full estabished yet still has funtimental issues
>D4 just released and miles better than PoE v1
in 10 years PoE will be nothing
PoE is an autistic minmaxing simulator, which is why I love it.
If you follow guides you're doing it wrong. That's like 'solving' a riddle by googling the answer.
Eg:
>new league, one class getsa reworked skill, triggerbots. Doubles your triggered spells, also their mana costs, applies a damage penalty so its only 30% more damage really. Also moves the cast location to the little robots that follow you & home in on enemies.
>looks neat, not sure how to best apply it though, could be jank if bots are slow
>level a brand recaller instead
>around lvl 70 go 'wait hold the fricking phone, what if I triggered brand recall with triggerbots, that might dodge the damage penalty entirely AND make the skill ranged & autotargetted instead of melee-range nova
>test it on old character out of league
>it werks
Best character I ever made, even rolled in the league mechanic for mine debuffs as the build has loads of downtime while autonukes rape bosses. Unique playstyle, strong and tanky as frick, just a little bit of hipster jank when bots derp out, perfection.
No other game I've found has an experience like this, none. D4 isnt even trying to go there.
You're going to spend a lot more than 70 dollars if you ever want to have the space to make autism builds and grind items in POE.
A currency tab, map tab and 3 premium tabs is all you really need. Maybe div cards. That's about $25. Anything past that is just luxury QoL, and even maxing out qol tabs wont break $70.
many poor people here
>poor person thread
Ok
I ain't playing pooe, I'm not cuck for BFR
>poe costs $80 to play properly with stashes
>poe has $30 battle pass
>poe mas mtx shop
>poe has gacha loot boxes
>poe has fricked up RNG on top of RNG
>game is made around 0.001% top players
>if you are not trading in poe, you are wasting time
>trading is connected to RMT run by shareholders
>94% of GGG is owned by TENCENT
>if you are not playing meta build, you are literally cucking yourself
>most mentally sane wowtroon
>the lack of detail
>the shitty UI
>the shitty skill system
>izi so morons can play it
And then you see all this tiktoki videos of people working at blizzard and realize why every game they make is shit.