this was just walking through boring fields, fighting predictable enemies, solving dumbass puzzles, and the most embarassing stealth sections Ive ever seen
But the music and character designs were really amazing for the time so I guess its literally the best huh
It's amazing how OoT still causes multigenerational seethe. Gen X insists Zelda 1 is the better game, contrarian millennials insist LTTP is the better game, zoomers insist TP is the better game, and non Zelda fans will insist BoTW/Totk is the better game. And they're all wrong.
To be fair I consider OOT and MM to be the same game but in two parts. Theres alot of normies who played the first game but completely missed majora's mask and the context it added for game one while laso giving us a wildly new mechanics with the reset countdown clock and the mask transformations. I cannot think of any other game of that generation that was like it and probably due to its poor sales all future game releases avoided to mechanics like the plague thinking they were bad.
The ludonarrative dissonance between playing as Link while the game is called "the Legend of Zelda" is too much from Nintendo to expect of modern audiences.
Yeah, it sure did. People who didn’t experience it back in 1998 will never know what the fuss was about. By today’s standards it’s pretty mediocre overall.
This but unironically, I'm shocked at how TotK fell out of general public consciousness HARD and fast, especially by 3D Zelda standards. Even if a lot of people won't admit it to this extent, I really do think many players realized on SOME level by the end of 2023 that this game was just about the worst way Nintendo could've handled a direct BotW sequel. It hinges too much on short-term novelty to justify its entire existence as a separate game. and I know I'm beating a horse's skeleton here but how the frick did this take like five years
>mostly the same map as the first game >except there are no tough enemies anywhere except in the depths >there's almost nothing in the sky, it's a barren wasteland >still has a durability system
at least you could brute force the spirit temple by accident instead of having to do the main story quest stuff.
I find Nintendo to be so interesting because the hard part of being a video game company (making good and memorable experiences) comes so easily to them, but they struggle so much with the easier parts of it (basic business, making their games avaliable)
I played OoT for the first time in my mid-twenties ~5 years ago, on an N64. There's a little bit of jank, but it holds up tremendously well. Commonly cited complaints, like unequipping and reequipping the boots in the Water Temple, were minor annoyances at worst, and the original visuals are much more charming
i feel like a LOT of game series' graphs would look very similar to this because of the massive influx of normalgays to gaming between the releases on both ends. almost every major franchise sells more now than it used to.
>quantity over quality
Requiring 5 Pieces of Heart for a new Container instead of 4 is the most shameless content bulking in that game. Also the Gamecube games are double gay for killing the Trading Quest as a Zelda staple.
>What do you MEAN I have to play the game? >I just want to aimlessly meander around for twenty hours on end, that's what the ADVENTURE in action-adventure means!
Verification not required.
>Games are either good, or they're not. They don't get worse with time.
They don't get "worse", but standards change. Pong wouldn't fly if released today
No, it didn't. Played it a year ago for the first time and it's peak ludo. So many secrets, a satisfying sense of progression, a good story, charismatic characters, an intriguing map, an amazing OST. It has 0 flaws. Ocarina of Time nailed 3D games, back then when there where no established rules. Hell, Ocarina established those rules.
It's fine you just have to pretend the graphics aren't bad and the level layout isn't simplistic and you aren't doing the same sort of fun activities as A Link to the Past but a more simplified version of fun due to engine and console limitations and A Link to the Past was overall more impressive and a better game with a lot more content and you have to pretend you've never played that before but that only adds to the theme of each game being a new experience for a new generation with a different version of Zelda and Link set in a different time period it's the meta narrative and repeating tropes and callbacks to those tropes that we must pay attention to not the unimpressive diorama like world you move your puppet around in like a room sized dollhouse and the mostly forgettable dialogue that implies everyone is a little too simple but that's part of the charm the atmosphere that's what makes this game the best game of all time.
It's amazing how OoT still causes multigenerational seethe. Gen X insists Zelda 1 is the better game, contrarian millennials insist LTTP is the better game, zoomers insist TP is the better game, and non Zelda fans will insist BoTW/Totk is the better game. And they're all wrong.
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To be fair I consider OOT and MM to be the same game but in two parts. Theres alot of normies who played the first game but completely missed majora's mask and the context it added for game one while laso giving us a wildly new mechanics with the reset countdown clock and the mask transformations. I cannot think of any other game of that generation that was like it and probably due to its poor sales all future game releases avoided to mechanics like the plague thinking they were bad.
MM is a special case that's already established its own cult following both inside and outside of the series. Sure, not EVERY Zelda fan sees it as the gold standard for what a traditional Zelda title should be like, but it's already made a name for itself for its uniqueness alone. I also agree that it should be played back to back with OoT.
Just played it a few months ago for the first time in years, its fine. It needs the improvements of SoH though, anyone claiming crt and the original hardware are the "optimal experience" are insane.
Nah. But the existance of Botw and Totk makes it a vector for degeneracy. Having your kid play oot could eventually lead them to attend university and become worthless.
im replaying it right now, actually. currently at the forest temple and the game is still as good as I remember it being. although the child dungeons are a bit boring as hell.
this was just walking through boring fields, fighting predictable enemies, solving dumbass puzzles, and the most embarassing stealth sections Ive ever seen
But the music and character designs were really amazing for the time so I guess its literally the best huh
Is it summer already?
To be fair I consider OOT and MM to be the same game but in two parts. Theres alot of normies who played the first game but completely missed majora's mask and the context it added for game one while laso giving us a wildly new mechanics with the reset countdown clock and the mask transformations. I cannot think of any other game of that generation that was like it and probably due to its poor sales all future game releases avoided to mechanics like the plague thinking they were bad.
Games don't age, just the people playing them.
Do i have to be on HRT to enjoy BotW?
yes so you should already be good to go
The ludonarrative dissonance between playing as Link while the game is called "the Legend of Zelda" is too much from Nintendo to expect of modern audiences.
Yeah, it sure did. People who didn’t experience it back in 1998 will never know what the fuss was about. By today’s standards it’s pretty mediocre overall.
Sorry wrong pic
This but unironically, I'm shocked at how TotK fell out of general public consciousness HARD and fast, especially by 3D Zelda standards. Even if a lot of people won't admit it to this extent, I really do think many players realized on SOME level by the end of 2023 that this game was just about the worst way Nintendo could've handled a direct BotW sequel. It hinges too much on short-term novelty to justify its entire existence as a separate game. and I know I'm beating a horse's skeleton here but how the frick did this take like five years
>mostly the same map as the first game
>except there are no tough enemies anywhere except in the depths
>there's almost nothing in the sky, it's a barren wasteland
>still has a durability system
at least you could brute force the spirit temple by accident instead of having to do the main story quest stuff.
The 3DS remake still holds up
3ds remake is soulless
It's only way to play it. The original is so outdated it's unplayable.
https://www.shipofharkinian.com/
I find Nintendo to be so interesting because the hard part of being a video game company (making good and memorable experiences) comes so easily to them, but they struggle so much with the easier parts of it (basic business, making their games avaliable)
I played OoT for the first time in my mid-twenties ~5 years ago, on an N64. There's a little bit of jank, but it holds up tremendously well. Commonly cited complaints, like unequipping and reequipping the boots in the Water Temple, were minor annoyances at worst, and the original visuals are much more charming
Incorrect on all counts.
>Boomers got triggered by long hair
>We get triggered by this
Wonder what gen alphas gonna have to cook up to piss off the zoomies.
It's that girl cut where they shave half of their head.
colorful hair
It's only playable on ship of harkinian, I don't know how boomers played with 240p/20fps back in the day
Cope and fricking seethe. itll never be surpassed
At least it's not a dark age game amirite. Glad zelda I'd back to being special again.
There were amazing games in the handhelds, though
And MM is a lot better than Ocarina
Minish Cap was too good for the plebs
Minish Cap had a nice soundtrack, pixel art/visuals, and dungeon design but it was too linear and short.
Just finished it a few days ago, it was pretty great. Honestly liked it better than Links Awakening remake.
i feel like a LOT of game series' graphs would look very similar to this because of the massive influx of normalgays to gaming between the releases on both ends. almost every major franchise sells more now than it used to.
I FOR ONE STAND TO SAY THAT TWILIGHT PRINCESS WAS GOOD! AND YOU WERE FILTERED!
best dungeons of that era of zelda, but holy shit everything else was boring
It did introduce more cute girls. Is that such a crime?
I enjoyed exploring TP way more than OOT, there was a lot of stuff to find.
>quantity over quality
Requiring 5 Pieces of Heart for a new Container instead of 4 is the most shameless content bulking in that game. Also the Gamecube games are double gay for killing the Trading Quest as a Zelda staple.
5 pieces is inherently superior, it gets you to explore more in the adventure game.
Not when the most damaging single source of damage in TP deals a whopping two hearts, which only come at the tail end of the game.
What went so wrong with Chudora's Mask?
Required the RAM extension and did not come with it. Only DK64 came with it if I recall correctly.
>What do you MEAN I have to play the game?
>I just want to aimlessly meander around for twenty hours on end, that's what the ADVENTURE in action-adventure means!
Verification not required.
It was too good for the hordes of mouth breathers that only played OoT because it looked incredibly pretty for the time
Nothing, it’s better than OoT.
>it's special, that's why everyone likes it
>everyone knows the most special games are the ones EVERYONE loves!
>huh? what's a niche?
>WW sold better than botw on wiiu
imagine miyamotos face when a WW port on switch outsells botw
>Glad zelda I'd back to being special again.
the latest game was a literal world and asset rehash you fricking corny Black person
It needed to be good in the first place in order to age like shit
ok?
I still play the original OOT and MM on console, they look good enough
>aged
Reddit meme. Games don't "age"
Games are either good, or they're not. They don't get worse with time.
>Games are either good, or they're not. They don't get worse with time.
They don't get "worse", but standards change. Pong wouldn't fly if released today
It inspired two generations of games. You aged like shit.
Dishonest shitpost.
No, it didn't. Played it a year ago for the first time and it's peak ludo. So many secrets, a satisfying sense of progression, a good story, charismatic characters, an intriguing map, an amazing OST. It has 0 flaws. Ocarina of Time nailed 3D games, back then when there where no established rules. Hell, Ocarina established those rules.
The 60fps mod is actually really fun.
It's fine you just have to pretend the graphics aren't bad and the level layout isn't simplistic and you aren't doing the same sort of fun activities as A Link to the Past but a more simplified version of fun due to engine and console limitations and A Link to the Past was overall more impressive and a better game with a lot more content and you have to pretend you've never played that before but that only adds to the theme of each game being a new experience for a new generation with a different version of Zelda and Link set in a different time period it's the meta narrative and repeating tropes and callbacks to those tropes that we must pay attention to not the unimpressive diorama like world you move your puppet around in like a room sized dollhouse and the mostly forgettable dialogue that implies everyone is a little too simple but that's part of the charm the atmosphere that's what makes this game the best game of all time.
It's amazing how OoT still causes multigenerational seethe. Gen X insists Zelda 1 is the better game, contrarian millennials insist LTTP is the better game, zoomers insist TP is the better game, and non Zelda fans will insist BoTW/Totk is the better game. And they're all wrong.
Right, the correct answer is that Majora's Mask is the better game
MM is a special case that's already established its own cult following both inside and outside of the series. Sure, not EVERY Zelda fan sees it as the gold standard for what a traditional Zelda title should be like, but it's already made a name for itself for its uniqueness alone. I also agree that it should be played back to back with OoT.
Let me guess, you think BoTW is a masterpiece?
Just played it a few months ago for the first time in years, its fine. It needs the improvements of SoH though, anyone claiming crt and the original hardware are the "optimal experience" are insane.
Here comes the troony spam
Nah. But the existance of Botw and Totk makes it a vector for degeneracy. Having your kid play oot could eventually lead them to attend university and become worthless.
im replaying it right now, actually. currently at the forest temple and the game is still as good as I remember it being. although the child dungeons are a bit boring as hell.
It only aged poorly because it's been remade by everyone else repeatedly for like 20 years
The people don't seem to agree
>Breaking Bad over Twin Peaks
I hate normalgays
>people
>MJ, MJ, Godfather, Zelda
All correct
>Wan Piss or any shounen shit
Ruined
The fact that 99% of the GOAT's come from the United States is total BS, America isn't important
Cope
>The fact that 99% of the GOAT's come from the United States is total BS, America isn't important