Let's be real. I Love Warhammer and I've been playing it since 2007.
I would like to have your opinion about THE OLD WORLD. Should I bother ?
I mean, I don't like the new magic rules and bouncing the unit around after combat. But is there some merits that my salty eyes can't see ?
For the moment, arguments around The Old World can be boiled down to :
> The Old World good because I love Warhammer.
>The Old World bad because GW is shit.
> The Old World good and I must support it so GW release a less shitty version eventualy
> The Old World bad because I love AoS.
So what is the better version and why ?
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It's good because it's NOT AoS.
A lot of game are not AoS. It's not an argument to play them all.
AoS is by far GW's best main line game, and it's not close. And other companies can't put out a game that will be played ten years from now. So why bother with them?
Old World is a current game which will make it easier to find pick up games than WFB. If that's not an issue for you then don't bother.
Heres the real reason, some new rules and models give people an excuse to form a new community. 10 years worth of secondaries who haven't had an easy way to get into WFB now game an avenue and the number of people means games and players will be easier to find then ever.
If you had a regular playgroup of even just 2 guys in a garage playing this game you are in 1% of people interested in playing any edition of WFB.
>is there some merits that my salty eyes can't see ?
yes, heroes on monsters are viable, initiative and charges matter again, all the armies are back on a somewhat standard slate
if you feel like 6th edition is better I would like to hear your opinion as to why
I see. I never felt charge and initiative it didn't matter even in the 8th.
I've not played the 6th. I've watch some games but I prefer some of the fun that the 8th edition can generate. ( But you have to cut a part of the bloat and houserule for some of the armies )
You still have access to the old rules, right? so why just show up to a game day, and if you don't like the way TOW plays then you can convince everyone that WHFB Xth edition is better and just play that.
Yep I'll gladly do so, but before I'll have the chance of doing so, I was curious what people around here think about it and what point they can bring to the table.
Yeah, discussing is gay and all. There is no point in asking for some feedback at all. I'll shoot myself in the leg to see for myself if it truly hurts. Only empiric knowledge exists.
Don't worry anon, my opinion and money are still with me. And for all the people that have commented I don't thing a lot of people have played/enjoyed it.
The only thing that I gathered for now is that it's a bland 6th/7th edition where most of the armies are somewhat on the same level.
The cutting edge argument is that I'll be able to make pick up game at my local GW store. Which I don't need because I have founded a wargaming club.
The aura of the game let me think that it's meh
For what it's worth I've played one game of old world with my chaos warriors and I like it. It's good value for me because I can use my sigmar army in that second game. And it's different enough from sigmar to be fun in it's own way. And it gives me an excuse to collect some oldhammer models. And that's enough for me to want to play the game.
And if old world doesn't take off, TOW folk can go to old fantasy with the grognards.
The thing that concerns me is how GW can't keep up with production as is.
Yeah, at this point GW business plan is to just launch random shit and sell a lot with preorder. No stocks or support intended. It'll die in two or three years.
And now, here you are, fuming at me for carrying out the very task you requested. Leave, ungrateful peasant.
>Yep I'll gladly do so, but before I'll have the chance of doing so, I was curious-
It's flavour of the month, Youtube's fricking flooded with videos, all the rules are online, there are regular threads here.
Piss off, play the game (against yourself if you have to), form an interesting opinion, and then consider coming back and creating a thread to express that opinion in an entertaining manner.
You don't get to settle back in your throne, wave a ring-laden hand and beckon forth the court to give their learned analysis on demand.
Who the frick kills a thread for "I don't like the magic system but I guess I might play but should I even bother you guys persuade me?"
You've been playing since 2007, so you have armies. Play for yourself and find out instead of having strangers on the internet spoon-feed you your opinion, homosexual. Saged.
Seriously you ask Ganker and fa/tg/uys nonetheless for advice about the quality of a product with your hard earned money on the line? Bold of you anon
Oldgay here, playin since 1979. We all switched to age of sigmar. Btw my son is trans.
inspiring and motivational
I'm afraid this will kill the ninth age, and still die quickly
>started in 2007
>greetings fellow oldgays amirite?
Now Apple removes features from every new product, Big Bang Theory is cringe, tumblr is dead and xitter has taken Ganker's crown as the Internet's cesspit.
I've never cared for any of these. But if you want to imply that since 2007 everything went to shit, I have to agree.
The old world is good because it streamlines and simplifies a lot of things and removes some of the stupid shit about WHFB. Magic does not need to be a minigame in itself. Not sorry. Characters on mounts are one profile instead of a weedy little b***h on the back of a dragon that can be pincushioned by some skirmishing archers who suddenly learn to snipe.
The changes to combat resolution are good.
How does the unit “bounce around” after combat? They can get pushed back a little bit, pushed back a lot, or entirely broken.
The Old World is an excuse for GW to re-release the classic sculpts. As a game, it's shit because it inherited the shitty, dated rules of FB. There are much better and more modern rank-and-file rulesets on the market now, and releasing this bloated abomination makes no sense. If you must, buy TOW miniatures and use them to play KoW.
I've never played KoW but I've played a lot of WHFB. I've tried out TOW and I've enjoyed my time but I'm curious to know what KoW does so much better?
Ask yourself: why do you *need* TOW?
You have a plethora of editions, including fanmade mods like WAP. You have recast, ebay, AoS, and 3rd parties for models. So why do you need anything else?
Support means community engagement
Community engagement encourages growth
Growth means more people to play with
I've spoken a lot about fantasy at my LGS with people, but even those with armies just aren't interested in playing of the game isn't evolving or changing
>they just aren't interested in playing of the game isn't evolving or changing
Is this some kind of zoomer thing? Addicted to the drip feed DLC format of video games?? Bah! Why fix what ain't broke?
>whfb
>not broke
kek gb2 /grog/ lmao
NTAYRT
But in your oversimplification, are you implying the constant stream of 2-year editions, balance dataslates, "metawatches" and supplement books and god knows what else has fixed 40k in 7th, 8th, 9th, or 10th editions? It fricking hasn't.
If anything it's deliberate inefficiency to make you spend more.
WHFB 6th might not be perfect but it's a fixed point and a fairly balanced one at that, compared to before and afterwards. Hence why it seems to be a rallying point for most of the Middlehammer movement.
No. 40K is a fricking shitshow, but TOW is not going to be like that by design. The arcane journals are supplements, not supplanting.
Most of the actual discussion about TOW that I’ve seen, not that strawman horseshit upthread, call it the spiritual successor of 6th ed.
This is so true, like for another example, Mordheim is just perfect as it is. We have about a dozen of us playing it at our local club.
And yet the freaks in the comments to GW online, whales and normies and whatever, are like "bring back Mordheim plssssss".
They are cattle who want the new treats, who want to be sold rulebooks and supplements piecemeal, who want the "hype".
Blood Bowl was the same until GW came back after a decade, and tinkered with it for no reason other than money.
"support" is such a disgusting word for the piecemeal selling GW do these days. I want to play a fun game, not manage the "meta" like it's a subscription to Adobe Photoshop.
Seek out people with clearer mindsets.
Totally agree with this, coughing up cash just to be spoon-fed rules by GW isn't my idea of showing support.
According to (you) it was only seven years ago, Ben.
>the only person with any interest in older Warhammer is one weirdo
I'm begging you, go outside and get some mates. Or at least take your meds.
Look at my club's Mordheim tables btw. Mad good.
Oh yr a Britbonger. It’s not the same stateside. There are no local wargaming clubs anywhere I’ve ever lived. It was always some tables in the back of a hobby shop that sold MtG, Comic books, Radio Controlled Cars, and/or whatever else.